The Flat Earth Society
Other Discussion Boards => Philosophy, Religion & Society => Topic started by: FlatAssembler on June 08, 2017, 06:04:47 AM
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I am going to tell you a story from my experience. I think there have been many cases in which good people trusting institutions did bad things to me because of that, but this one is certainly true.
My parents got divorced when I was little and they hate each other very much. In Croatia, there is an institution called "socijalna skrb" (I am not willing to find an English equivalent) that's supposed to help the poor and stop family violence. One day, while I was in school, "socijalna skrb" phoned my unemployed father to urgently come to their office. He hoped they would finally give him financial help so he came there. They didn't give him financial help. Instead, they "informed" him about me having written bad things about him in a letter to the "socijalna skrb" in a near-by town. They allegedly came to know that from my mathematics professor. My father and I were arguing all evening about that supposed letter, he did not believe me I didn't actually write any letter to the "socijalna skrb". After hours of arguing, he hit me in the face. He had never done that before. And he almost certainly wouldn't have done that if he hadn't trusted "socijalna skrb". A few days later I asked my mathematics professor about that supposed letter. Needless to say, he just stared at me blindly. Again, this is a true story, it happened recently. And I am by no means the only victim. "Socijalna skrb" has been sued countless times, but every time the court reinterprets the case again and again until it looks like it's not the fault of the institution. "Socijalna skrb" is supposed to end the family violence, when they are ones who cause the family violence. Its employees are in a delusion that they are helping the poor, and they just make things worse. Croatia is a very democratic and a very liberal country with relatively low corruption, yet the institutions still find a way to destroy peoples lives. I can imagine it can only be worse elsewhere.
So, let's hear your thoughts about trusting the institutions!
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I thought the title said "Is it actually a good thing to thrust the institutions?" :-\
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Thrust Socijalna skrb! Thrust 'em hard!
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Institutions are made up of people. Some people you can trust and others you can't. It's hard to know one from the other sometimes.
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First, my condolences for everything.
My first suggestion is to seek reliable and useful allies which will include discernment and knowledge. I like the Proverbs of Solomon which give unchanging reliable guide. One example is when Solomon wrote "Depart from the presence of a fool when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge." Passages such as this have helped me much over years.
As far as getting information, there are likely websites and organisations that put out the truth about these kinds of things in Croatia & also offer services to help people. I would first find out about all of these, and then make assessments as to which are the most useful after you know more about them.
In my personal opinion, when you say that Croatia s democratic with little corruption, my thought is that it is like the U.S. where the media convince many people of the same thing, but the opposite is true.
Most everybody likes to be thought of as good guys, but in many cases that's only an image.
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One of the organisations in the U.S. that helps people is the ACLU. When you stated that your dad assaulted you, it brought to mind a potent book they've published entitled 'The Rights of Crime Victims'.
Surely, there exists comparable things in Croatia.
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I just don't get how people can think that way. The institutions themselves have obviously brought violence to my family, even if only by spreading misinformation. Isn't it very unreasonable to ask them to step into it again and somehow stop the violence?
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Are you so deep in your bubble of political delusion that you literary don't hear and see what other people have to say?
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Are you so deep in your bubble of political delusion that you literary don't hear and see what other people have to say?
17 November offered you thoughts and ideas that may help you figure out a solution to your problem.
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Well, his advices are ridiculous, and that's probably clear to everyone who doesn't subscribe to his political ideology.
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Well, his advices are ridiculous, and that's probably clear to everyone who doesn't subscribe to his political ideology.
You are an ungrateful prick.
In Croatia, there is an institution called "socijalna skrb" (I am not willing to find an English equivalent) that's supposed to help the poor and stop family violence. One day, while I was in school, "socijalna skrb" phoned my unemployed father to urgently come to their office. He hoped they would finally give him financial help so he came there. They didn't give him financial help. Instead, they "informed" him about me having written bad things about him in a letter to the "socijalna skrb" in a near-by town.
If I was your father, I would have beat you too.
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Well, his advices are ridiculous, and that's probably clear to everyone who doesn't subscribe to his political ideology.
You are an ungrateful prick.
Well, I don't particularly blame him for disliking a guy whose username is the name of a terrorist organization :-\
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Well, his advices are ridiculous, and that's probably clear to everyone who doesn't subscribe to his political ideology.
You sound like a real nut job. Good luck with the rest of your life
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Are you guys competing who can make more sense or are you competing who can make less sense?