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Title: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: Pezevenk on May 19, 2017, 07:44:17 AM
That's right: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39967460
Title: Re: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: Hannibaal on May 19, 2017, 08:28:02 AM
That's right: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39967460

I quote from the site, " Greece had fallen back into recession for the first time since 2012".

I didn't know they got over it, in the first place, and they've been under austerity measures ever since!

Selling their islands probably didn't pay back - what should they sell now? Their heritage, their knowledge or maybe their monuments to some world museums!

I did just mention in another post today that the world (everywhere) is really anxious for a change from its reality, that doesn't look like it's getting any better!
Title: Re: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: Crouton on May 19, 2017, 08:37:30 AM
I'm not at all familiar with this so I could be wrong.  But this looks kind of like America in the Great Depression .  Austerity is a trap here.  It's a race towards the bottom.  Stimulus and aggressive expansion seems to be the way to go.
Title: Re: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: Pezevenk on May 19, 2017, 09:58:18 AM
That's right: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39967460

I quote from the site, " Greece had fallen back into recession for the first time since 2012".

I didn't know they got over it, in the first place, and they've been under austerity measures ever since!

Selling their islands probably didn't pay back - what should they sell now? Their heritage, their knowledge or maybe their monuments to some world museums!

I did just mention in another post today that the world (everywhere) is really anxious for a change from its reality, that doesn't look like it's getting any better!

I have no idea who told you we "sold islands". I hope you realize that it's sort of impossible to do that.

Maybe we weren't really in recession, but it sure didn't feel like it. And no, nothing paid back.
Title: Re: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: Pezevenk on May 19, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
I'm not at all familiar with this so I could be wrong.  But this looks kind of like America in the Great Depression .  Austerity is a trap here.  It's a race towards the bottom.  Stimulus and aggressive expansion seems to be the way to go.

No, it's actually much different. Greece is a small country, doesn't produce that much, and it's ended up being dependent on other countries. Austerity is not a solution at all, but it's what the eurozone is asking for and everyone knows we can't say no. We owe too much to pay. Couple that with incompetent/corrupt politicians and you get a fucking disaster that has caused most people to give up on the country. Can you really fault young people who want to leave a country with a 50% youth unemployment rate?
Title: Re: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: TotesReptilian on May 19, 2017, 11:14:03 AM
I'm not at all familiar with this so I could be wrong.  But this looks kind of like America in the Great Depression .  Austerity is a trap here.  It's a race towards the bottom.  Stimulus and aggressive expansion seems to be the way to go.

Stimulus and "aggressive expansion" worked for America because they were able to aggressively take on debt. From what I understand, Greece is well past that option.
Title: Re: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: FalseProphet on May 19, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
I think it is difficult to have a common economy but separate political entities. If Europe would really feel as a unity, the richer countries could just help the region that is in trouble instead of punishing it (which is insane, isn't it). But this option seems not to exist.
Title: Re: It's become a national tradition at this point...
Post by: Pezevenk on May 19, 2017, 01:16:59 PM
I think it is difficult to have a common economy but separate political entities. If Europe would really feel as a unity, the richer countries could just help the region that is in trouble instead of punishing it (which is insane, isn't it). But this option seems not to exist.

That's because of stupid nationalism. I'd like to see the EU become a union more like the US, but it's not just the people in central europe who oppose it.