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Title: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 12:32:24 AM
Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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Source(s):
every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( triple w ( d . o . t ) asitis ( d . o . t ) c . o . m {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 11, 2017, 12:35:21 AM
Indian mysticism you say.

Not bad.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 01:15:48 AM
Indian mysticism you say.

Not bad.

so you mean that 2 + 2 = is 4 for fistful indians only ? is it 3 or 5 for the rest of the world ? is it not 4 everywhere ?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 11, 2017, 01:35:39 AM
Indian mysticism you say.

Not bad.

so you mean that 2 + 2 = is 4 for fistful indians only ? is it 3 or 5 for the rest of the world ? is it not 4 everywhere ?
may be, if the both 2's and 4 are in reality not exactly 2 or 4 but rounded to whole integers, then yes, the outcome may be a 3 or 5.
for example: every number between 1,50 - 2,49 is 2 when rounded up to whole integers.
so, the outcome can vary between 1,50 + 1,50 = 3,00 and 2,49 +2,49 = 4,98 ... which rounded up to whole integers is 3 and 5. :P :P :P
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 02:33:52 AM
Indian mysticism you say.

Not bad.

so you mean that 2 + 2 = is 4 for fistful indians only ? is it 3 or 5 for the rest of the world ? is it not 4 everywhere ?
may be, if the both 2's and 4 are in reality not exactly 2 or 4 but rounded to whole integers, then yes, the outcome may be a 3 or 5.
for example: every number between 1,50 - 2,49 is 2 when rounded up to whole integers.
so, the outcome can vary between 1,50 + 1,50 = 3,00 and 2,49 +2,49 = 4,98 ... which rounded up to whole integers is 3 and 5. :P :P :P

and what is the value of your maybe ? maybe is not the damn scientific proposal. and any rascal can say maybe but do we follow it ? what is the value of such nonsense maybe ?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 11, 2017, 03:44:22 AM
Dude, don't take it too seriously.
I just said that sometimes 2 + 2 can be 3
for instance if the 2 is actually 1,6 which is rounded up to 2, then:
1,6 + 1,6 = 3,2 which can be rounded up as 3.
That is the scientific evidence that 2 + 2 can be 3.
Like said...I meant it as a joke.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Babushka on May 11, 2017, 03:55:37 AM
If both twos are definitive integers with their value equating to absolute 2, then the answer will be four. However, you are right in saying if they are simply rounded, then the answer may not be four.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 04:44:47 AM
If both twos are definitive integers with their value equating to absolute 2, then the answer will be four. However, you are right in saying if they are simply rounded, then the answer may not be four.

and now You can avoid the creator, but you cannot say He doesn't exist. Whether or not you accept the creator's authority is your business; but you cannot say there is no creator.

For example :- there are so many outlaws who say, "We don't want to obey the government." If you don't like the government, that is your business. But there is a government -- you can't deny that.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Gumby on May 11, 2017, 04:50:37 AM
If both twos are definitive integers with their value equating to absolute 2, then the answer will be four. However, you are right in saying if they are simply rounded, then the answer may not be four.

and now You can avoid the creator, but you cannot say He doesn't exist. Whether or not you accept the creator's authority is your business; but you cannot say there is no creator.

For example :- there are so many outlaws who say, "We don't want to obey the government." If you don't like the government, that is your business. But there is a government -- you can't deny that.

There is no such thing as a creator.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 05:47:00 AM
If both twos are definitive integers with their value equating to absolute 2, then the answer will be four. However, you are right in saying if they are simply rounded, then the answer may not be four.

and now You can avoid the creator, but you cannot say He doesn't exist. Whether or not you accept the creator's authority is your business; but you cannot say there is no creator.

For example :- there are so many outlaws who say, "We don't want to obey the government." If you don't like the government, that is your business. But there is a government -- you can't deny that.

There is no such thing as a creator.

and there is no intelligence also. there is no intelligence also. and if there is any intelligence at all then ( fertile brain ) recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute and prove it that there is intelligence also. come on ( fertile brain ) after all its an open challenge.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: wise on May 11, 2017, 06:55:44 AM
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If there is one God, why he has a lot of names?

Hare Krishna movement accept those other religinal books. So his name Hare Krishna and meanwhile God, Allah, Jesus, Yahova, etc... So why should us continue to say Hare Krisna, instead of say Allah Allah Allah,... or God God God,...

If God has only a name as Hare Krishna, why did not quoted it in other religinal books? What is God hiding to? Is it only problem a name, in your opinion?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 07:14:14 AM
...

If there is one God, why he has a lot of names?

Hare Krishna movement accept those other religinal books. So his name Hare Krishna and meanwhile God, Allah, Jesus, Yahova, etc... So why should us continue to say Hare Krisna, instead of say Allah Allah Allah,... or God God God,...

If God has only a name as Hare Krishna, why did not quoted it in other religinal books? What is God hiding to? Is it only problem a name, in your opinion?

suppose you have gold and you are christian, and i have gold and im hindu, and muslims have gold too, but do we call it hindu gold ? christian gold ? muslim gold ?

nah gold is always gold. it cannot be christian gold, hindu gold, muslim gold, same God's name must be Krishna which means he who not only attracts man and women but also 8.4 million forms of life. he is attracted to everyone.

and unless Krishna is full in these six opulences, which are full strength, full fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation, how can he be God ? God ( Aka Krishna ) means complete in six oppulences.

he is just like Gold and he cannot be hindu, muslim, christian etc. just as Gold is gold everywhere similarly Krishna is Krishna. which means all attractive.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: wise on May 11, 2017, 01:39:09 PM
...

If there is one God, why he has a lot of names?

Hare Krishna movement accept those other religinal books. So his name Hare Krishna and meanwhile God, Allah, Jesus, Yahova, etc... So why should us continue to say Hare Krisna, instead of say Allah Allah Allah,... or God God God,...

If God has only a name as Hare Krishna, why did not quoted it in other religinal books? What is God hiding to? Is it only problem a name, in your opinion?

suppose you have gold and you are christian, and i have gold and im hindu, and muslims have gold too, but do we call it hindu gold ? christian gold ? muslim gold ?

nah gold is always gold. it cannot be christian gold, hindu gold, muslim gold, same God's name must be Krishna which means he who not only attracts man and women but also 8.4 million forms of life. he is attracted to everyone.

and unless Krishna is full in these six opulences, which are full strength, full fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation, how can he be God ? God ( Aka Krishna ) means complete in six oppulences.

he is just like Gold and he cannot be hindu, muslim, christian etc. just as Gold is gold everywhere similarly Krishna is Krishna. which means all attractive.

So why God's name don't be only God, instead of Hare Krishna? There is 2 billions of christian more than number of Krishna believers. If they are same, why don't you use his actual name by accepting God. Aren't they same, what is your problem with God?

Okey so you can say 300 times God and be happy. What is difference?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 08:37:43 PM
...

If there is one God, why he has a lot of names?

Hare Krishna movement accept those other religinal books. So his name Hare Krishna and meanwhile God, Allah, Jesus, Yahova, etc... So why should us continue to say Hare Krisna, instead of say Allah Allah Allah,... or God God God,...

If God has only a name as Hare Krishna, why did not quoted it in other religinal books? What is God hiding to? Is it only problem a name, in your opinion?

suppose you have gold and you are christian, and i have gold and im hindu, and muslims have gold too, but do we call it hindu gold ? christian gold ? muslim gold ?

nah gold is always gold. it cannot be christian gold, hindu gold, muslim gold, same God's name must be Krishna which means he who not only attracts man and women but also 8.4 million forms of life. he is attracted to everyone.

and unless Krishna is full in these six opulences, which are full strength, full fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation, how can he be God ? God ( Aka Krishna ) means complete in six oppulences.

he is just like Gold and he cannot be hindu, muslim, christian etc. just as Gold is gold everywhere similarly Krishna is Krishna. which means all attractive.

So why God's name don't be only God, instead of Hare Krishna? There is 2 billions of christian more than number of Krishna believers. If they are same, why don't you use his actual name by accepting God. Aren't they same, what is your problem with God?

Okey so you can say 300 times God and be happy. What is difference?

and god name must be Krishna cuz as i said before Krishna means all attractive. he not only attracts man and women but also cats, dogs, cows, lion, elephants upto 8.4 million forms of life.

his ( Krishna aka gods ) beauty is matchless. and gods name must be all attractive. for he is the most beautiful person, he is most powerful person, he is most wealth person, he is wiser then the wisest, greater than greatest. no one can challenge his supremacy. thus all big big authorities have accepted in this way.

and you have to follow authorities just as we follow our real mother. otherwise there is no other way. that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 11, 2017, 10:27:06 PM
Gods name must be (x)

Lost me there.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 11:14:21 PM
Gods name must be (x)

Lost me there.

so you want to challenge big big authorities ?  ( just see the fun ) since you cannot tell that who is your real father without the help of your real mother. but you want to challenge your mother. ( just see the fun )

and ( dullard ) no saying that there was no father before your birth. that is not possible.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 11, 2017, 11:23:54 PM
God has many names. In Islam only, we have 99 names for God. and every name is more beautiful than the other.
For you he is Krishna maybe, but I will keep using Allah. We are still talking about the same God. The only difference is, you believe in continuous rebirth back here on earth as a human being or as an animal, and I believe in only one rebirth in the afterlife.

I always wanted to ask this....parhaps I don't understand your religion enough, but what I wondered is this:

according to your religion, you can be reborn as an animal as a punishment, if you did much wrong in your previous life...

but animals don't have a self consiousness....they cannot distinguish between good and evil...they cannot lie, or gossip, or steal from fellow animals, or whatsoever.

so, knowing this...how can an animal live a good or a wrong life?

I really want to understand.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 11:42:01 PM
God has many names. In Islam only, we have 99 names for God. and every name is more beautiful than the other.
For you he is Krishna maybe, but I will keep using Allah. We are still talking about the same God. The only difference is, you believe in continuous rebirth back here on earth as a human being or as an animal, and I believe in only one rebirth in the afterlife.

I always wanted to ask this....parhaps I don't understand your religion enough, but what I wondered is this:

according to your religion, you can be reborn as an animal as a punishment, if you did much wrong in your previous life...

but animals don't have a self consiousness....they cannot distinguish between good and evil...they cannot lie, or gossip, or steal from fellow animals, or whatsoever.

so, knowing this...how can an animal live a good or a wrong life?

I really want to understand.

as i said before that gold is gold. it cannot be hindu gold, muslim gold, christian gold, gold is always gold. similarly God or Krishna cannot be sectarian. that is not possible.

and consciouness of animals is not very developed. it is similar to any childs consciouness. animals are just like childerns.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: wise on May 11, 2017, 11:48:31 PM
...

If there is one God, why he has a lot of names?

Hare Krishna movement accept those other religinal books. So his name Hare Krishna and meanwhile God, Allah, Jesus, Yahova, etc... So why should us continue to say Hare Krisna, instead of say Allah Allah Allah,... or God God God,...

If God has only a name as Hare Krishna, why did not quoted it in other religinal books? What is God hiding to? Is it only problem a name, in your opinion?

suppose you have gold and you are christian, and i have gold and im hindu, and muslims have gold too, but do we call it hindu gold ? christian gold ? muslim gold ?

nah gold is always gold. it cannot be christian gold, hindu gold, muslim gold, same God's name must be Krishna which means he who not only attracts man and women but also 8.4 million forms of life. he is attracted to everyone.

and unless Krishna is full in these six opulences, which are full strength, full fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation, how can he be God ? God ( Aka Krishna ) means complete in six oppulences.

he is just like Gold and he cannot be hindu, muslim, christian etc. just as Gold is gold everywhere similarly Krishna is Krishna. which means all attractive.

So why God's name don't be only God, instead of Hare Krishna? There is 2 billions of christian more than number of Krishna believers. If they are same, why don't you use his actual name by accepting God. Aren't they same, what is your problem with God?

Okey so you can say 300 times God and be happy. What is difference?

and god name must be Krishna cuz as i said before Krishna means all attractive. he not only attracts man and women but also cats, dogs, cows, lion, elephants upto 8.4 million forms of life.

his ( Krishna aka gods ) beauty is matchless. and gods name must be all attractive. for he is the most beautiful person, he is most powerful person, he is most wealth person, he is wiser then the wisest, greater than greatest. no one can challenge his supremacy. thus all big big authorities have accepted in this way.

and you have to follow authorities just as we follow our real mother. otherwise there is no other way. that is all.

This is not persuasive and My point still stays.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 11, 2017, 11:53:54 PM
...

If there is one God, why he has a lot of names?

Hare Krishna movement accept those other religinal books. So his name Hare Krishna and meanwhile God, Allah, Jesus, Yahova, etc... So why should us continue to say Hare Krisna, instead of say Allah Allah Allah,... or God God God,...

If God has only a name as Hare Krishna, why did not quoted it in other religinal books? What is God hiding to? Is it only problem a name, in your opinion?

suppose you have gold and you are christian, and i have gold and im hindu, and muslims have gold too, but do we call it hindu gold ? christian gold ? muslim gold ?

nah gold is always gold. it cannot be christian gold, hindu gold, muslim gold, same God's name must be Krishna which means he who not only attracts man and women but also 8.4 million forms of life. he is attracted to everyone.

and unless Krishna is full in these six opulences, which are full strength, full fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation, how can he be God ? God ( Aka Krishna ) means complete in six oppulences.

he is just like Gold and he cannot be hindu, muslim, christian etc. just as Gold is gold everywhere similarly Krishna is Krishna. which means all attractive.

So why God's name don't be only God, instead of Hare Krishna? There is 2 billions of christian more than number of Krishna believers. If they are same, why don't you use his actual name by accepting God. Aren't they same, what is your problem with God?

Okey so you can say 300 times God and be happy. What is difference?

and god name must be Krishna cuz as i said before Krishna means all attractive. he not only attracts man and women but also cats, dogs, cows, lion, elephants upto 8.4 million forms of life.

his ( Krishna aka gods ) beauty is matchless. and gods name must be all attractive. for he is the most beautiful person, he is most powerful person, he is most wealth person, he is wiser then the wisest, greater than greatest. no one can challenge his supremacy. thus all big big authorities have accepted in this way.

and you have to follow authorities just as we follow our real mother. otherwise there is no other way. that is all.

This is not persuasive and My point still stays.

alright tell us that how child will understand this thing that who is his real father ? cuz before his birth he never seen him. so would he will accept anyone else as his father ? or what is the process by whcih we understand this thing that who is our real father ? what is your answer ?

come on tell us the process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 11, 2017, 11:55:19 PM
God has many names. In Islam only, we have 99 names for God. and every name is more beautiful than the other.
For you he is Krishna maybe, but I will keep using Allah. We are still talking about the same God. The only difference is, you believe in continuous rebirth back here on earth as a human being or as an animal, and I believe in only one rebirth in the afterlife.

I always wanted to ask this....parhaps I don't understand your religion enough, but what I wondered is this:

according to your religion, you can be reborn as an animal as a punishment, if you did much wrong in your previous life...

but animals don't have a self consiousness....they cannot distinguish between good and evil...they cannot lie, or gossip, or steal from fellow animals, or whatsoever.

so, knowing this...how can an animal live a good or a wrong life?

I really want to understand.

as i said before that gold is gold. it cannot be hindu gold, muslim gold, christian gold, gold is always gold. similarly God or Krishna cannot be sectarian. that is not possible.

and consciouness of animals is not very developed. it is similar to any childs consciouness. animals are just like childerns.
So, knowing that...what happens when an animal dies? will it come back as another animal or as a human?
what happens when a small child or baby dies? the child was too young to determine what is good or what is evil...will he then reach nirvana or will he be reborn as another human?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 12:12:20 AM
God has many names. In Islam only, we have 99 names for God. and every name is more beautiful than the other.
For you he is Krishna maybe, but I will keep using Allah. We are still talking about the same God. The only difference is, you believe in continuous rebirth back here on earth as a human being or as an animal, and I believe in only one rebirth in the afterlife.

I always wanted to ask this....parhaps I don't understand your religion enough, but what I wondered is this:

according to your religion, you can be reborn as an animal as a punishment, if you did much wrong in your previous life...

but animals don't have a self consiousness....they cannot distinguish between good and evil...they cannot lie, or gossip, or steal from fellow animals, or whatsoever.

so, knowing this...how can an animal live a good or a wrong life?

I really want to understand.

as i said before that gold is gold. it cannot be hindu gold, muslim gold, christian gold, gold is always gold. similarly God or Krishna cannot be sectarian. that is not possible.

and consciouness of animals is not very developed. it is similar to any childs consciouness. animals are just like childerns.
So, knowing that...what happens when an animal dies? will it come back as another animal or as a human?
what happens when a small child or baby dies? the child was too young to determine what is good or what is evil...will he then reach nirvana or will he be reborn as another human?

as you will act you will get the result. and specially now days we see abortions. the womb of mother which is supposed to be most safe place. there also childerns are getting killed. so who those childerns are ? they are those meat eaters who are killing meat of cows. cuz you drink milk of cow. thus she is mother in one sense.

but when cow cannot supply anymore milk cut her throat and make business. so is that is humanity ? to kill your mother and eat her meat ? and natures law if **tit for tat** if you will kill animals. then you will be killed.

and there is law life for life. and in the creation of God ( aka Krishna ) there is no thing that if you kill human beings then you will be killed and when you kill animals you will be not killed. this is imperfect law man made law.

therefore Jesus Christ said **thou shall not kill** but ( just see the fun ) christians have invented worlds biggest slaughter house and still they want to polish themselves as christians.

and if Christ wanted to say that dont murder than was he fool that he said so broadly thou shall not kill ? so there is no real christian also.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 12, 2017, 12:46:08 AM
God has many names. In Islam only, we have 99 names for God. and every name is more beautiful than the other.
For you he is Krishna maybe, but I will keep using Allah. We are still talking about the same God. The only difference is, you believe in continuous rebirth back here on earth as a human being or as an animal, and I believe in only one rebirth in the afterlife.

I always wanted to ask this....parhaps I don't understand your religion enough, but what I wondered is this:

according to your religion, you can be reborn as an animal as a punishment, if you did much wrong in your previous life...

but animals don't have a self consiousness....they cannot distinguish between good and evil...they cannot lie, or gossip, or steal from fellow animals, or whatsoever.

so, knowing this...how can an animal live a good or a wrong life?

I really want to understand.

as i said before that gold is gold. it cannot be hindu gold, muslim gold, christian gold, gold is always gold. similarly God or Krishna cannot be sectarian. that is not possible.

and consciouness of animals is not very developed. it is similar to any childs consciouness. animals are just like childerns.
So, knowing that...what happens when an animal dies? will it come back as another animal or as a human?
what happens when a small child or baby dies? the child was too young to determine what is good or what is evil...will he then reach nirvana or will he be reborn as another human?

as you will act you will get the result. and specially now days we see abortions. the womb of mother which is supposed to be most safe place. there also childerns are getting killed. so who those childerns are ? they are those meat eaters who are killing meat of cows. cuz you drink milk of cow. thus she is mother in one sense.

but when cow cannot supply anymore milk cut her throat and make business. so is that is humanity ? to kill your mother and eat her meat ? and natures law if **tit for tat** if you will kill animals. then you will be killed.

and there is law life for life. and in the creation of God ( aka Krishna ) there is no thing that if you kill human beings then you will be killed and when you kill animals you will be not killed. this is imperfect law man made law.

therefore Jesus Christ said **thou shall not kill** but ( just see the fun ) christians have invented worlds biggest slaughter house and still they want to polish themselves as christians.

and if Christ wanted to say that dont murder than was he fool that he said so broadly thou shall not kill ? so there is no real christian also.
That is all great, but you didn't answer my question yet....

I asked...what happens when an animal or a baby dies? they both don't have the ability to distinguish the good over the evil...so, what will happen when they die? will they be reborn as another animal? or will they come back as a human? will they reach nirvana? and why?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 01:04:09 AM
That is all great, but you didn't answer my question yet....

I asked...what happens when an animal or a baby dies? they both don't have the ability to distinguish the good over the evil...so, what will happen when they die? will they be reborn as another animal? or will they come back as a human? will they reach nirvana? and why?

i have already answered your question that why do you take only 1 or 2 year old babies ? childerns are getting killed even within the womb of there mother. so what wrong or good they done within from there ? but it is there past deeds ( or say karma ) because of which they are getting such things.

and you will be killed as many as animals you ( or anyone who has ) have killed. same numer. tit for tat. that is the law of nature.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 01:07:37 AM
That is all great, but you didn't answer my question yet....

I asked...what happens when an animal or a baby dies? they both don't have the ability to distinguish the good over the evil...so, what will happen when they die? will they be reborn as another animal? or will they come back as a human? will they reach nirvana? and why?

i have already answered your question that why do you take only 1 or 2 year old babies ? childerns are getting killed even within the womb of there mother. so what wrong or good they done within from there ? but it is there past deeds ( or say karma ) because of which they are getting such things.

and you will be killed as many as animals you ( or anyone who has ) have killed. same numer. tit for tat. that is the law of nature.


and there i s8.4 million forms of life. so how many you have seen ? 500 ? alright let us accept it that you have seen 10000 but still there are 8.4 million forums of life. and if you will not accept the purpose of human life aka higher authorities then you will go on taking birth after birth and law of forgetfulness is already at its work. sometimes you may become demigod then sometimes you will become an blade of grass. now it is your free will that what to do and what to not do. this is your business.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 12, 2017, 01:12:43 AM
That is all great, but you didn't answer my question yet....

I asked...what happens when an animal or a baby dies? they both don't have the ability to distinguish the good over the evil...so, what will happen when they die? will they be reborn as another animal? or will they come back as a human? will they reach nirvana? and why?

i have already answered your question that why do you take only 1 or 2 year old babies ? childerns are getting killed even within the womb of there mother. so what wrong or good they done within from there ? but it is there past deeds ( or say karma ) because of which they are getting such things.

and you will be killed as many as animals you ( or anyone who has ) have killed. same numer. tit for tat. that is the law of nature.
ok, now I understand why you talk about adoption. you are saying, if you commit adoption, you will become one of those adopted unborn child yourself.

and, if I killed thousend flies, I will be reborn as a fly thousand times...sounds logical...but after that...will I come back as a human again? or did I then suffer enough and will I reach nirvana?

Sorry for these questions, but I am really wondering how it exactly works.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 01:18:46 AM
That is all great, but you didn't answer my question yet....

I asked...what happens when an animal or a baby dies? they both don't have the ability to distinguish the good over the evil...so, what will happen when they die? will they be reborn as another animal? or will they come back as a human? will they reach nirvana? and why?

i have already answered your question that why do you take only 1 or 2 year old babies ? childerns are getting killed even within the womb of there mother. so what wrong or good they done within from there ? but it is there past deeds ( or say karma ) because of which they are getting such things.

and you will be killed as many as animals you ( or anyone who has ) have killed. same numer. tit for tat. that is the law of nature.
ok, now I understand why you talk about adoption. you are saying, if you commit adoption, you will become one of those adopted unborn child yourself.

and, if I killed thousend flies, I will be reborn as a fly thousand times...sounds logical...but after that...will I come back as a human again? or did I then suffer enough and will I reach nirvana?

Sorry for these questions, but I am really wondering how it exactly works.

and now weather it is logical or not logical it will be decited by higher authorities. and you will not be given chance to debate with them. so dont think this thing in foolishness.

cuz right now you cannot even prove this that there is no father before your birth. and without the help of your real mother you cannot even approach your real father.

so dont foolishly think that you can challenge higher authorities. if you think that you can then you are fool. then you are idiot. that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 12, 2017, 01:58:21 AM

and now weather it is logical or not logical it will be decited by higher authorities. and you will not be given chance to debate with them. so dont think this thing in foolishness.

cuz right now you cannot even prove this that there is no father before your birth. and without the help of your real mother you cannot even approach your real father.

so dont foolishly think that you can challenge higher authorities. if you think that you can then you are fool. then you are idiot. that is all.
It needs to be logical, because it has to be based on justice. justice is logical. you won't stand a chance in a debate because the facts speak for themselves.

And I am not denying that my father or mother do not exist, nor do I deny that God exist...but I do not understand why you think that Krishna is the one God of all creation...Muslims think that Allah is the Master of all creation...that all humans, animals, plants and trees, and even lifeless rocks are attracted to Him?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 02:11:12 AM

and now weather it is logical or not logical it will be decited by higher authorities. and you will not be given chance to debate with them. so dont think this thing in foolishness.

cuz right now you cannot even prove this that there is no father before your birth. and without the help of your real mother you cannot even approach your real father.

so dont foolishly think that you can challenge higher authorities. if you think that you can then you are fool. then you are idiot. that is all.
It needs to be logical, because it has to be based on justice. justice is logical. you won't stand a chance in a debate because the facts speak for themselves.

And I am not denying that my father or mother do not exist, nor do I deny that God exist...but I do not understand why you think that Krishna is the one God of all creation...Muslims think that Allah is the Master of all creation...that all humans, animals, plants and trees, and even lifeless rocks are attracted to Him?

this is what im saying. that if you will kill then you will be killed. life for life. and dont think that if you kill animals then you will be not killed according to the law of god.

and you have well said that facts will speak themselves. so dont foolishly think that if you kill lesser animals like flies then you will not have any effect. if you kill even an ant then there is will reaction. and this material world is ocean of repeated birth after birth.

and if you take the shelter of Krishna ( aka gods ) lotus feets then he will take charge of your activities. and people with a poor fund of knowledge do not know the difference between the death of a devotee and the death of a nondevotee. In this connection, an example can be given: a cat carries its kittens in its mouth, and it also catches a rat in its mouth. Superficially, the catching of the rat and the kitten appear to be one and the same, but actually they are not. When the cat catches the rat in its mouth it means death for the rat, whereas when the cat catches the kitten, the kitten enjoys it.

and as i said before that Krishna is neither muslim nor hindu bindu or christian. just as gold is never hindu gold, muslim gold, christian gold.

gold is always gold. similarly Krishna is neither hindu nor muslim. you can call him by any names for he has numberless names. but the subject matter is the same.

and yes even rocks gets melted by watching Krishnas peerless beauty so to speak nothing of man and women, he attracts everything which is exiting withing our cosmic situation.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 12, 2017, 02:38:47 AM
this is what im saying. that if you will kill then you will be killed. life for life. and dont think that if you kill animals then you will be not killed according to the law of god.

and you have well said that facts will speak themselves. so dont foolishly think that if you kill lesser animals like flies then you will not have any effect. if you kill even an ant then there is will reaction.
I agree on that...

and this material world is ocean of repeated birth after birth.

and if you take the shelter of Krishna ( aka gods ) lotus feets then he will take charge of your activities.
This is the part I reject...In that case you can say something like: "hey I take shalter by Krishna, so everything I do or decide is actually justice because it is not my decision, but Krishna makes me do it"
So everyone who seeks shelter of Krishna can declare himself holy and can do anything he wants in this life...it doesn't work that way.

an example: If you were born as a king in this world, that doesn't mean you have automatically a higher rank to God.

so:
no, He will not take charge of your activities...you still are responsible for your own choises and activities...every person in this life have equal level or rank for God...the only difference God makes among humans is the amount of how devoted you live according to His laws.

and people with a poor fund of knowledge do not know the difference between the death of a devotee and the death of a nondevotee. In this connection, an example can be given: a cat carries its kittens in its mouth, and it also catches a rat in its mouth. Superficially, the catching of the rat and the kitten appear to be one and the same, but actually they are not. When the cat catches the rat in its mouth it means death for the rat, whereas when the cat catches the kitten, the kitten enjoys it.

and as i said before that Krishna is neither muslim nor hindu bindu or christian. just as gold is never hindu gold, muslim gold, christian gold.

gold is always gold. similarly Krishna is neither hindu nor muslim. you can call him by any names for he has numberless names. but the subject matter is the same.

and yes even rocks gets melted by watching Krishnas peerless beauty so to speak nothing of man and women, he attracts everything which is exiting withing our cosmic situation.
and yes dead doesn't have the same outcome as everyone. I agree on that too. How you have lived in this life determines how you will live in the afterlife.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 02:53:50 AM

and this material world is ocean of repeated birth after birth.

and if you take the shelter of Krishna ( aka gods ) lotus feets then he will take charge of your activities.
This is the part I reject...In that case you can say something like: "hey I take shalter by Krishna, so everything I do or decide is actually justice because it is not my decision, but Krishna makes me do it"
So everyone who seeks shelter of Krishna can declare himself holy and can do anything he wants in this life...it doesn't work that way.

an example: If you were born as a king in this world, that doesn't mean you have automatically a higher rank to God.

so:
no, He will not take charge of your activities...you still are responsible for your own choises and activities...every person in this life have equal level or rank for God...the only difference God makes among humans is the amount of how devoted you live according to His laws.

and we all knows if it that ordinary theif is an theif and he is to be punished. but when policeman commits theft on that time punishment is greater then ordinary theifs punishment.

and there is no meaning in bathing like elephant. the bathing of an elephant. An elephant bathes in a lake quite thoroughly, but as soon as it comes on the shore it takes some dust from the ground and strews it over its body. Thus there is no meaning to the elephant's bath.

so dont foolishly think that Krishna can be cheated by duplicity. cuz he is antaryami which means he is witness of our everything ( every activity ) from within our heart. you cannot fool Krishna with duplicity. for he is witness from within our heart.
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and what is there that you will disagree ? what is there that you will disagree ? if you want to say that there is no repeated birth after birth then `1st of all recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute. so that we can see what is what.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 12, 2017, 03:11:50 AM
and we all knows if it that ordinary theif is an theif and he is to be punished. but when policeman commits theft on that time punishment is greater then ordinary theifs punishment.
Because the policeman plays an examplary role.
What I meant is, king or farmer...nobel or sinner...Krishna or God takes charge of NOBODIES activities...everyone is in charge of their own activities and choices. It is your own responsibily to devote your life to God or commit a crime...
and there is no meaning in bathing like elephant. the bathing of an elephant. An elephant bathes in a lake quite thoroughly, but as soon as it comes on the shore it takes some dust from the ground and strews it over its body. Thus there is no meaning to the elephant's bath.
Because for you don't understand the elephant...for you it is dust....for the elephant it is a way to get rid of nasy irritating insects. you think he is bathing thoroughly, in fact he goes in the water to cool off or he just likes water. and maybe to clean himself.

so dont foolishly think that Krishna can be cheated by duplicity. cuz he is antaryami which means he is witness of our everything ( every activity ) from within our heart. you cannot fool Krishna with duplicity. for he is witness from within our heart.
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You cannot foor Krishna or God, because like said, fact speak for themselves.
and what is there that you will disagree ? what is there that you will disagree ? if you want to say that there is no repeated birth after birth then `1st of all recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute. so that we can see what is what.
What has repeated birth to do with remembering every second in your past? that doesn't have a connection.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 03:19:37 AM

Because the policeman plays an examplary role.
What I meant is, king or farmer...nobel or sinner...Krishna or God takes charge of NOBODIES activities...everyone is in charge of their own activities and choices. It is your own responsibily to devote your life to God or commit a crime...

What has repeated birth to do with remembering every second in your past? that doesn't have a connection.

Krishna takes the charge but the bathing of an elephant has no value. it has no value. that is all. An elephant bathes in a lake quite thoroughly, but as soon as it comes on the shore it takes some dust from the ground and strews it over its body. Thus there is no meaning to the elephant's bath.
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and what is has to do or not that we shall see later but `1st of all my ( dear ) friend you come to point and recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute.

so that we can see what is what. come on simply recall everything and finish the business.

and there is nothing that you will disagree. for facts speaks for in themselves.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 12, 2017, 04:28:53 AM
@ nahaei, I respect your belief based on ONE creator we are all connected to!

But, with all do respect, I find it hard to understand Hinduism from the basis of the multi-god representation and idolizing whom you are addressing when making a connection!

If you believe the creator is All-Powerful, All-fulfilling, limitless and not someone's personal trade mark, then why do you do the exact opposite in your practice?

Do you need to represent the creator with an idol or a statue (see to believe), so it would make it easier to make that connection, or is it thinking he's so far away you can't reach?
Do you make the connection with your senses or with your heart?

I have visited India 4 times in the past (a very beautiful place indeed) and managed to count more than thousands of gods and idols - all under Hinduism > to the point that many gods could exist in the same house and family!!!

Do they all lead to Krishna, or do each of them lead to a separate path? > And if they all lead to the same place, why do you need them in the first place?
Does Krishna need mediums between him and his believers? Does he like and accept that idea? Doesn't he feel you are degrading his power of being capable of connecting directly with you, by making the connection through something else? Wouldn't he get mad at you if you share his kingdom with other deities?
Do you think the creator need assistants?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 04:42:54 AM
@ nahaei, I respect your belief based on ONE creator we are all connected to!

But, with all do respect, I find it hard to understand Hinduism from the basis of the multi-god representation and idolizing whom you are addressing when making a connection!

If you believe the creator is All-Powerful, All-fulfilling, limitless and not someone's personal trade mark, then why do you do the exact opposite in your practice?

Do you need to represent the creator with an idol or a statue (see to believe), so it would make it easier to make that connection, or is it thinking he's so far away you can't reach?
Do you make the connection with your senses or with your heart?

I have visited India 4 times in the past (a very beautiful place indeed) and managed to count more than thousands of gods and idols - all under Hinduism > to the point that many gods could exist in the same house and family!!!

Do they all lead to Krishna, or do each of them lead to a separate path? > And if they all lead to the same place, why do you need them in the first place?
Does Krishna need mediums between him and his believers? Does he like and accept that idea? Doesn't he feel you are degrading his power of being capable of connecting directly with you, by making the connection through something else? Wouldn't he get mad at you if you share his kingdom with other deities?
Do you think the creator need assistants?

`1st of all in every sanskrit litrature there is no word like hindu. hindu name is given to us by muslims cuz we live near sindhu nadi ( sindhu river ) it is difficult for them to call sindhu so it become hindu. and india name is given to us cuz we live near indus nadi ( or indus river ) and in actual we are bharatiyas.

and entire world 5000 years ago was called bharat. but in course of time it got divided.
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He ( Krishna ) is advaita, absolute, but He expands Himself in multiforms. He expands Himself as Baladeva, and from Baladeva, there is Saṅkarṣaṇa; from Saṅkarṣaṇa, there is Aniruddha, Pradyumna. In this way, expansion goes. These are Vedic versions. So Nārāyaṇa is also Kṛṣṇa's expansion, although these expansions are not different from one another.

The example is given, just like one candle. Then you light up another candle, another candle. Each one of these candles are equally powerful, but the original candle is called the first candle. Similarly, Kṛṣṇa is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead. From Him, You light up many millions of candles, but they are of the same potency. The candle power is not reduced because we have ignited so many candles from the original. No. Advaitam, acyut. Pūrṇasya pūrṇam evāvaśiṣyate. Even though Kṛṣṇa expands Himself in millions and millions and forms, still, all of them are of the same potency. That is called sattva-dhāmnaḥ. So there are different types of expansion of Kṛṣṇa. They are called vibhinnāṁśa, svāṁśa. Kṛṣṇa expands Himself svāṁśa. That is Viṣṇu-tattva.
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and the point is this that just as we cannot approach our real father without the help of our real mother. same we cannot jump on Krishna without approaching his authority. that is not possible.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 12, 2017, 09:41:21 AM
@ nahaei, I thought we agreed that the creator is All-fulfilling and limitless - which means he fills existence, so what would he be expanding into if he is already the All? And if he is everywhere why would he be needing to divide himself into endless gods and entities?

If he is capable of reaching the heart/ the core of an atom, then why are you putting barriers between believers and the creator?
Why are you convincing them that it is impossible to approach him or be directly in contact and touched by him, and can only be done through a medium (a higher authority) that connects us with the creator?

We learn from the masters the way to the creator, but we do not worship them and ask them to pass our messages to the supreme authority - like he can't hear us or can't reply to us!
Why are you depriving him from his supremacy and SOLE authority? - We can't reach him with our senses, but he can reach us when we open our hearts - and that's all what it takes to make a connection!

Can't you see that this "higher authority" barrier is a man-made fantasy to control the masses and limit their connection and their belief to a "physical entity" they can see and touch; thinking it's the only way to reach higher; when the higher is supposedly everywhere!

Christians can't approach god except through the church and their blessings! Why?
Why would I need the blessings of a priest to reach god - who himself refused God's orders of fulfilling the universal sexing to complete the human connection to god?
They made the door to a whore house the gate to reach god! > They must put the mark on you, or your ass will be fried in hell!

I see Hinduism following the same mythology or vise versa; being older - followers have to go through this endless, complex maze to reach their creator; performing all kinds of satanic acts and rituals (which I personally saw in many occasions), thinking they were touched by god, when in fact; they are touched by nothing but negative, static energy accumulated in those statues they worship, and controlled by the demons they behold!

What's wrong with raising your hands high in the sky approaching the creator > would it be hard for him to reach you if you open your heart for him to enter - because, the heart is the gate and not the temple or the church, or the statue and the priest!
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 10:31:14 AM
@ nahaei, I thought we agreed that the creator is All-fulfilling and limitless - which means he fills existence, so what would he be expanding into if he is already the All? And if he is everywhere why would he be needing to divide himself into endless gods and entities?

If he is capable of reaching the heart/ the core of an atom, then why are you putting barriers between believers and the creator?
Why are you convincing them that it is impossible to approach him or be directly in contact and touched by him, and can only be done through a medium (a higher authority) that connects us with the creator?

We learn from the masters the way to the creator, but we do not worship them and ask them to pass our messages to the supreme authority - like he can't hear us or can't reply to us!
Why are you depriving him from his supremacy and SOLE authority? - We can't reach him with our senses, but he can reach us when we open our hearts - and that's all what it takes to make a connection!

Can't you see that this "higher authority" barrier is a man-made fantasy to control the masses and limit their connection and their belief to a "physical entity" they can see and touch; thinking it's the only way to reach higher; when the higher is supposedly everywhere!

Christians can't approach god except through the church and their blessings! Why?
Why would I need the blessings of a priest to reach god - who himself refused God's orders of fulfilling the universal sexing to complete the human connection to god?
They made the door to a whore house the gate to reach god! > They must put the mark on you, or your ass will be fried in hell!

I see Hinduism following the same mythology or vise versa; being older - followers have to go through this endless, complex maze to reach their creator; performing all kinds of satanic acts and rituals (which I personally saw in many occasions), thinking they were touched by god, when in fact; they are touched by nothing but negative, static energy accumulated in those statues they worship, and controlled by the demons they behold!

What's wrong with raising your hands high in the sky approaching the creator > would it be hard for him to reach you if you open your heart for him to enter - because, the heart is the gate and not the temple or the church, or the statue and the priest!

Krishna ( or say God ) is everywhere just like air. and within everything but at the same time everything doesnt become Krishna. just like for example - just as you put marble into water so on that time marble is in water but at the same time water is not into marble.
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and as far as question of approaching Krishna ( or say God ) then tell us that what is the process by knowing our real father ? you cannot tell this thing that who is our real father without help of our real mother. but why do you want to jump on Krishna without approaching his representative ( aka authority ) ? and if you want to do it then it is nothing but an **gross** mistake.
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and if you think that authority is an ordinary man who is controlling the masses than it is an offense. if you want to challenge your real mother then you can do it out of foolishness. but at your own you will never find your real father.
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and what authorities will limit you ? your hearing, seeing, intelligence everything is already limited. you cannot see even in morning without sun light and what to speak of night without light ? just you already blind. and our gross material senses are already blunt. they work under certain conditions.
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and as far as question of christianity so why do you generalize us ( The Hare Krishnas ) with christians ? what solid, verifialbe and tangible explanation christians have ? kindly explain it so that it can see what is what.

and at the top who is real christian ? they are simply voilating christ. Christ has said *Thou shall not kill* and they are killing poor animals and still polishing themselves as christians. this kind of duplicity will not help you.

and then again repent and be forgiven ? but what is meaning of bathing like elephant ? it has no value.
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and at the top no saying that it is myth that there was any father before your birth and you were dropped from the sky into the womb of your mother. that is not possible.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: wise on May 12, 2017, 02:01:38 PM
...

If there is one God, why he has a lot of names?

Hare Krishna movement accept those other religinal books. So his name Hare Krishna and meanwhile God, Allah, Jesus, Yahova, etc... So why should us continue to say Hare Krisna, instead of say Allah Allah Allah,... or God God God,...

If God has only a name as Hare Krishna, why did not quoted it in other religinal books? What is God hiding to? Is it only problem a name, in your opinion?

suppose you have gold and you are christian, and i have gold and im hindu, and muslims have gold too, but do we call it hindu gold ? christian gold ? muslim gold ?

nah gold is always gold. it cannot be christian gold, hindu gold, muslim gold, same God's name must be Krishna which means he who not only attracts man and women but also 8.4 million forms of life. he is attracted to everyone.

and unless Krishna is full in these six opulences, which are full strength, full fame, wealth, knowledge, beauty and renunciation, how can he be God ? God ( Aka Krishna ) means complete in six oppulences.

he is just like Gold and he cannot be hindu, muslim, christian etc. just as Gold is gold everywhere similarly Krishna is Krishna. which means all attractive.

So why God's name don't be only God, instead of Hare Krishna? There is 2 billions of christian more than number of Krishna believers. If they are same, why don't you use his actual name by accepting God. Aren't they same, what is your problem with God?

Okey so you can say 300 times God and be happy. What is difference?

and god name must be Krishna cuz as i said before Krishna means all attractive. he not only attracts man and women but also cats, dogs, cows, lion, elephants upto 8.4 million forms of life.

his ( Krishna aka gods ) beauty is matchless. and gods name must be all attractive. for he is the most beautiful person, he is most powerful person, he is most wealth person, he is wiser then the wisest, greater than greatest. no one can challenge his supremacy. thus all big big authorities have accepted in this way.

and you have to follow authorities just as we follow our real mother. otherwise there is no other way. that is all.

This is not persuasive and My point still stays.

alright tell us that how child will understand this thing that who is his real father ? cuz before his birth he never seen him. so would he will accept anyone else as his father ? or what is the process by whcih we understand this thing that who is our real father ? what is your answer ?

come on tell us the process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father.

We have one father and his name is "Adam" in 200 languages.

You suggest Hare Krishna is God's name and denying to the name as God. If you, why don't you accept praying in the name of God, instead of Hare something. What is difference?

I am in this regard because I do not like god fools. God has a lot of names on its name and it's just the Adam's imagination.

We can simply try it. Okey lets do it.

1- Both of us lets start to day with saying "God helps me".

After day end, notice what lived in day.

2- Second day, we'll start to day with saying "Hare Krishna"

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

3- Third day, we'll start to day with "bism illah".

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

Compare them.

If first second one is better than the first one, God's real name is Hare something and he like to heard it. Misleading results can be obtained with few examples but the number of trials will be increased and the correct result will be approached.

Okey lets go.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 12, 2017, 02:36:44 PM
I'm... just... Wow. What a thread  ;D

Why do people expect a supreme, all-powerful being to care what name someone calls it? Would it not know when it is being addressed, regardless of the invocation used? And if it cares that much, then are you not intentionally disrespecting it with this experiment, which will definitely intentionally be using the wrong name at least twice? Inky, you would essentially be questioning the existence of the god you pray to by partaking in this with an open mind, which would be required if you want to carry out an unbiased experiment.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 12, 2017, 04:31:06 PM
It's so funny.



Disclaimer, I'm not an atheist. I believe in one god / energy with many names.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 08:34:27 PM
We have one father and his name is "Adam" in 200 languages.

You suggest Hare Krishna is God's name and denying to the name as God. If you, why don't you accept praying in the name of God, instead of Hare something. What is difference?

I am in this regard because I do not like god fools. God has a lot of names on its name and it's just the Adam's imagination.

We can simply try it. Okey lets do it.

1- Both of us lets start to day with saying "God helps me".

After day end, notice what lived in day.

2- Second day, we'll start to day with saying "Hare Krishna"

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

3- Third day, we'll start to day with "bism illah".

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

Compare them.

If first second one is better than the first one, God's real name is Hare something and he like to heard it. Misleading results can be obtained with few examples but the number of trials will be increased and the correct result will be approached.

Okey lets go.

and why we have one father your mr.adam ? is that means your mr.adam has no father before his birth and he was dropped from the sky into the womb of his mother ? are you that intelligent idiot ?

and at the top tell us `1st of all process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father ? cuz before our birth we never seen him. so tell us the damn process `1st of all.

so that we can see what is what.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 08:36:44 PM
I'm... just... Wow. What a thread  ;D

Why do people expect a supreme, all-powerful being to care what name someone calls it? Would it not know when it is being addressed, regardless of the invocation used? And if it cares that much, then are you not intentionally disrespecting it with this experiment, which will definitely intentionally be using the wrong name at least twice? Inky, you would essentially be questioning the existence of the god you pray to by partaking in this with an open mind, which would be required if you want to carry out an unbiased experiment.

and now what is his actual name that we shall see later `1st of all tell us the process by which we understand this thing that who is our real fathre ? cuz before your birth you never seen him. and no saying that there was no father before your birth.

that is also not possible.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 08:41:18 PM
It's so funny.

Disclaimer, I'm not an atheist. I believe in one god / energy with many names.

and my ( dear ) cutie pie tell me also that funny thing. so that i may also become happy with you. and before you start ( imposing or shifting burdon of proof ) mormon or any other authority on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) kindly explain that what solid explanation they have in there background. so that we can see what is what.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 12, 2017, 08:48:49 PM
I understand each of those words individually.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 12, 2017, 09:14:25 PM
I understand each of those words individually.

we shall see everything later but `1st of all tell us the damn process ( foolish idiot ) by which we understand this thing that who is our real father ? cuz before our birth we never seen him.

so tell me the damn process `1st and keep all nonsense in side.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 12, 2017, 10:24:12 PM
I don't understand what your words mean ??? I don't think I'm a foolish idiot, but I guess all foolish idiots feel that way right?

The way I know who my real father is relates to biology. Are we related?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 13, 2017, 02:44:11 AM
It's so funny.



Disclaimer, I'm not an atheist. I believe in one god / energy with many names.

To be honest - all religions that claim worshiping god lie!

Hindus claim they worship Krishna (the one god), but to reach him, believers have to go through an endless maze of thousands of god, rituals and satanic acts!

The Jews were given best knowledge and authority and were favored by god > then when they reached a very high level of acknowledgment and wealth, they forgot about god and worshiped their ego!

God then send the Jews a miracle called Jesus - a righteous man and a teacher > and what they did; they forgot about god and worshiped the miracle!

Muslims claim they worship the one god and the Qur'an says so, but in reality they worship their political leaders even if they lead them to the demise and destruction > they step on their necks with their feet and still 99% of the population reelect the same dictator and cheer for him!

And you hear from here and there some minorities worshiping statues, a man's penis in Thailand, a woman's vagina in some parts of Syria, and some crazy stuff here and there!

So, if anyone hears of a religion that directly worship the creator > please let me know which part of the world can they be found!

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: sceptimatic on May 13, 2017, 04:02:12 AM
My thoughts on the purpose of human life are exactly the same as every other life Earth produces.
A mere bacteria that reproduces and dies until that certain bacteria cannot sustain itself due to, (maybe) stronger bacteria taking precedence.
Basically we are nothing special in the grand scheme of things.
Just my personal opinion, which could be totally wrong or partly right or maybe right. Who really knows?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 13, 2017, 04:13:47 AM
@ nahaei, I thought we agreed that the creator is All-fulfilling and limitless - which means he fills existence, so what would he be expanding into if he is already the All? And if he is everywhere why would he be needing to divide himself into endless gods and entities?

If he is capable of reaching the heart/ the core of an atom, then why are you putting barriers between believers and the creator?
Why are you convincing them that it is impossible to approach him or be directly in contact and touched by him, and can only be done through a medium (a higher authority) that connects us with the creator?

We learn from the masters the way to the creator, but we do not worship them and ask them to pass our messages to the supreme authority - like he can't hear us or can't reply to us!
Why are you depriving him from his supremacy and SOLE authority? - We can't reach him with our senses, but he can reach us when we open our hearts - and that's all what it takes to make a connection!

Can't you see that this "higher authority" barrier is a man-made fantasy to control the masses and limit their connection and their belief to a "physical entity" they can see and touch; thinking it's the only way to reach higher; when the higher is supposedly everywhere!

Christians can't approach god except through the church and their blessings! Why?
Why would I need the blessings of a priest to reach god - who himself refused God's orders of fulfilling the universal sexing to complete the human connection to god?
They made the door to a whore house the gate to reach god! > They must put the mark on you, or your ass will be fried in hell!

I see Hinduism following the same mythology or vise versa; being older - followers have to go through this endless, complex maze to reach their creator; performing all kinds of satanic acts and rituals (which I personally saw in many occasions), thinking they were touched by god, when in fact; they are touched by nothing but negative, static energy accumulated in those statues they worship, and controlled by the demons they behold!

What's wrong with raising your hands high in the sky approaching the creator > would it be hard for him to reach you if you open your heart for him to enter - because, the heart is the gate and not the temple or the church, or the statue and the priest!

Krishna ( or say God ) is everywhere just like air. and within everything but at the same time everything doesnt become Krishna. just like for example - just as you put marble into water so on that time marble is in water but at the same time water is not into marble.
__________________

and as far as question of approaching Krishna ( or say God ) then tell us that what is the process by knowing our real father ? you cannot tell this thing that who is our real father without help of our real mother. but why do you want to jump on Krishna without approaching his representative ( aka authority ) ? and if you want to do it then it is nothing but an **gross** mistake.
___________
and if you think that authority is an ordinary man who is controlling the masses than it is an offense. if you want to challenge your real mother then you can do it out of foolishness. but at your own you will never find your real father.
_______

and what authorities will limit you ? your hearing, seeing, intelligence everything is already limited. you cannot see even in morning without sun light and what to speak of night without light ? just you already blind. and our gross material senses are already blunt. they work under certain conditions.
_________________

and as far as question of christianity so why do you generalize us ( The Hare Krishnas ) with christians ? what solid, verifialbe and tangible explanation christians have ? kindly explain it so that it can see what is what.

and at the top who is real christian ? they are simply voilating christ. Christ has said *Thou shall not kill* and they are killing poor animals and still polishing themselves as christians. this kind of duplicity will not help you.

and then again repent and be forgiven ? but what is meaning of bathing like elephant ? it has no value.
___________

and at the top no saying that it is myth that there was any father before your birth and you were dropped from the sky into the womb of your mother. that is not possible.


Can't you see it's the same story everywhere > people forget about their creator thinking he can't be reached, and instead they approach what they call representatives (higher authority) to give them permission to reach their creator!!!

All prophets and messengers of God came to inform humans about the existence of a creator and to directly connect with Him. (worshiping is making a direct connection with the creator and not with a statue)

Religions have become breeding ground for pagan and satanic rituals, because of the mass-control from the higher authorities, and because they lost direct contact with the creator!

I know my father very well, because of a long list of prophets and messengers that came and long gone > so, why do I have to go through my mother every time I want to reach my father - is it that difficult to approach him?
Why are you putting limits and barriers on something limitless and free for everybody?
Why are you taxing God?

That father-mother analogy is out of place and outdated > it only works on mind-controlled sheeple!!!
Religion should be open and free - directly addressed to the creator and not through swindlers and magicians - anything other than that is pure Satanic!
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Dither on May 13, 2017, 06:50:24 AM
So, if anyone hears of a religion that directly worship the creator > please let me know which part of the world can they be found!

Christian Response:

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

God has revealed Himself directly through His Word, seek Him while he may be found.
The means God uses is Faith in Christ, and that faith is given by Him, not earned by us.
We cannot reach God through any other means, mysticism through direct revelation is false.   

Some of the nicest people I know at work are Muslims,
They are extremely ethical, genuine and caring people.
I also know a wonderful Vegetarian Krishna Indian who wouldn't hurt a fly.
He won't keep tropical fish because they shouldn't be trapped behind glass.
Back in the day, I knew some brave Anarchist Atheists who sought a better world.
That was in the early eighties, we'd listen to Crass and talk politics.

My Point is this, there are nice people in the world and there are not so nice people.
But everyone must give account to God and if your not in Christ you are in danger.

Just sayin :)





 









Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 13, 2017, 08:21:39 AM
So, if anyone hears of a religion that directly worship the creator > please let me know which part of the world can they be found!

Christian Response:

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

God has revealed Himself directly through His Word, seek Him while he may be found.
The means God uses is Faith in Christ, and that faith is given by Him, not earned by us.
We cannot reach God through any other means, mysticism through direct revelation is false.   

Some of the nicest people I know at work are Muslims,
They are extremely ethical, genuine and caring people.
I also know a wonderful Vegetarian Krishna Indian who wouldn't hurt a fly.
He won't keep tropical fish because they shouldn't be trapped behind glass.
Back in the day, I knew some brave Anarchist Atheists who sought a better world.
That was in the early eighties, we'd listen to Crass and talk politics.

My Point is this, there are nice people in the world and there are not so nice people.
But everyone must give account to God and if your not in Christ you are in danger.

Just sayin :)

Christ was a Great teacher and a messenger of God - he was a miracle from God to humanity.
The teachings of Christ are the most peaceful of all, which came to confirm the teachings of other prophets and messengers of God that came before Jesus, and to CORRECT where the Jews have gone wrong.

They ALL showed us the way to God - which is the right way.
And you can only approach God if you follow the "right way" and the teachings of the prophets which will lead us to God!

BUT, does that mean to worship the messengers and make them gods?
They delivered their messages and left > then, it's up to us to continue in the right path they followed.
We follow their teachings but we do not worship them!

God is NOT an entity to be limited in a human body that suffers, be fed and poohs!

There is goodness everywhere in this world and all come from the same source - the mercy of God reaches everywhere - even the unbelievers!
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 09:45:12 AM
I don't understand what your words mean ??? I don't think I'm a foolish idiot, but I guess all foolish idiots feel that way right?

The way I know who my real father is relates to biology. Are we related?

your guess work and thinking has no value. since you have been failed even in telling the process by which we understand our real father. and if you depend on your thinking then you are foolish idiot. that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 09:51:05 AM
It's so funny.



Disclaimer, I'm not an atheist. I believe in one god / energy with many names.

To be honest - all religions that claim worshiping god lie!

Hindus claim they worship Krishna (the one god), but to reach him, believers have to go through an endless maze of thousands of god, rituals and satanic acts!

The Jews were **nonsense** can they be found!

and you are also an foolish idiot. since you cannot approach your real father without the help of your real mother. and you want to jump on Krishna directly ? ( just see the fun )

and if you are envious of an authority that he is controlling the masses then you must be also envious to the Supreme Personality of Godhead Krishna for he is the greater than the greatest. and he is propertior of everything else, enjoyer of everything else, and friend of everything.

than you must be also envious of him. that is the proof. that you are nothing but an envious rascal pig.
____________

and before you start **imposing** ( or shifting burdon of proof ) other authorities like jewish, christian, islamic and other 3500 religious authorities on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) kindly tell us that what solid, verifialbe and tangible explanation they have ?

so that we can see what is what. and if there is no explanation then you keep your nonsense to yourself with your fellow sheeps. cuz then you are nothing but an failure. that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 09:53:35 AM
My thoughts on the purpose of human life are exactly the same as every other life Earth produces.
A mere bacteria that reproduces and dies until that certain bacteria cannot sustain itself due to, (maybe) stronger bacteria taking precedence.
Basically we are nothing special in the grand scheme of things.
Just my personal opinion, which could be totally wrong or partly right or maybe right. Who really knows?

yes yes i know that there is no father before your birth. cuz any bacteria was dropped from the sky into the womb of your mother. and you are product of such bacteria. ( just see the fun ) and i have to believe such **rascal dog** like you ? ( just see the folly )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 09:59:48 AM
That father-mother analogy is out of place and outdated > it only works on mind-controlled sheeple!!!
Religion should be open and free - directly addressed to the creator and not through swindlers and magicians - anything other than that is pure Satanic!

and if mum and dad analogy is outdated then i also dont beat the dead horse(s) like you. that is all.

and simply dry talkings will not work here. for if you think it is out dated then give me another way to know my father who used to exited before my birth. and no saying that i have seen him before my birth.

so give me another way by which i understand this thing that who is my real father. come on ( rascal pig )

and at the top if you are envious of an representative of Krishna ( who is authority of Krishna ) then you must be also envious the Krishna for he is the actual controller not the authority. ( who is just like mother ) actual controller is your papa ( aka Krishna )

thus you are envious. and that is the proof that you are failure at once. enviousness is the disqualification.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 13, 2017, 10:02:25 AM
I don't understand what your words mean ??? I don't think I'm a foolish idiot, but I guess all foolish idiots feel that way right?

The way I know who my real father is relates to biology. Are we related?

your guess work and thinking has no value. since you have been failed even in telling the process by which we understand our real father. and if you depend on your thinking then you are foolish idiot. that is all.

Well, judge not and all that...

My father is my immediate male progenitor. It's not difficult to understand, or to prove with great certainty.

But carry on with your gibberish. I'm sure your god smiles upon you playing keyboard warrior on his behalf and laying waste to all the infidels with your silly insults. Please him. Please him real gooooooood. ;)
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 10:03:46 AM
So, if anyone hears of a religion that directly worship the creator > please let me know which part of the world can they be found!

Christian Response:

In the **skip**you are in danger.

Just sayin :)

and what kind of christian are you ? since Christ has said *Thou shall not kill* but his birthday is celebrated by killing turkey ?

was Christ an fool who doesnt know how to use proper words that he said *Thou shall not kill* instead of thou shall not comit murder ? you are missusing his words. thus you be prepared to take the reaction.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 10:05:34 AM
I don't understand what your words mean ??? I don't think I'm a foolish idiot, but I guess all foolish idiots feel that way right?

The way I know who my real father is relates to biology. Are we related?

your guess work and thinking has no value. since you have been failed even in telling the process by which we understand our real father. and if you depend on your thinking then you are foolish idiot. that is all.

Well, judge not and all that...

My father is my immediate male progenitor. It's not difficult to understand, or to prove with great certainty.

But carry on with your gibberish. I'm sure your god smiles upon you playing keyboard warrior on his behalf and laying waste to all the infidels with your silly insults. Please him. Please him real gooooooood. ;)

and my ( dear ) cutie pie let me remain kewboard warrior or an foolish idiot. but what are you ? just an failure. who is not even able to tell process by which we understand our real father.

you are nothing but an failure. thus now there is no meaning in beating the horse who is already dead. ( simply waste of time )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 13, 2017, 10:19:25 AM
I just don't understand all the hostility. That must be exhausting to keep up. I hope you picked the right god. Imagine the let-down if you end up standing before Zeus after all this.

The very first thing you said to me was that I am a foolish idiot and a damn fool. Does your god encourage you to treat people like that regularly? People who are having trouble figuring out the intent behind your words? Rather than work together to make sure your message is being received clearly, you would just assume the other party is an idiot? That's not a god I want to sign up with.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 10:25:08 AM
I just don't understand all the hostility. That must be exhausting to keep up. I hope you picked the right god. Imagine the let-down if you end up standing before Zeus after all this.

The very first thing you said to me was that I am a foolish idiot and a damn fool. Does your god encourage you to treat people like that regularly? People who are having trouble figuring out the intent behind your words? Rather than work together to make sure your message is being received clearly, you would just assume the other party is an idiot? That's not a god I want to sign up with.

and as far as question of insults so child is not interested for education. But it is the duty of the father to make him educated, sometimes father  punish him. So a child may be foolish, but how the parents can be foolish? 
 
what is your answer ??
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 13, 2017, 10:29:27 AM
Are you saying that you think it is acceptable to insult a child in an effort to better educate him/her? And asking me if I agree with that philosophy as it relates to being educated about the god you believe in?

I'm having a very hard time interpreting your words.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 10:37:43 AM
Are you saying that you think it is acceptable to insult a child in an effort to better educate him/her? And asking me if I agree with that philosophy as it relates to being educated about the god you believe in?

I'm having a very hard time interpreting your words.

and you are nothing but an failure. for you have been failed even in telling the process by which we understand our real father. you are nothing but an damn failure. that is all.

but still you can polish yourself as intelligent in the first place. but such duplicity is not going to help you in any way. my ( dear ) cutie pie
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 13, 2017, 10:55:02 AM
Clearly your goal here is to lash out rather than be understood. I'll just leave you to it, then.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 11:00:01 AM
Clearly your goal here is to lash out rather than be understood. I'll just leave you to it, then.

and clearly now you are failure in counterattacking any argument at all. you are just an failure clearly.

and thus your only policy is **give dog bad name and hang it** that is all. so now i also will just leave beating the horse who is already dead. that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 13, 2017, 11:21:48 AM
That father-mother analogy is out of place and outdated > it only works on mind-controlled sheeple!!!
Religion should be open and free - directly addressed to the creator and not through swindlers and magicians - anything other than that is pure Satanic!

and if mum and dad analogy is outdated then i also dont beat the dead horse(s) like you. that is all.

and simply dry talkings will not work here. for if you think it is out dated then give me another way to know my father who used to exited before my birth. and no saying that i have seen him before my birth.

so give me another way by which i understand this thing that who is my real father. come on ( rascal pig )

and at the top if you are envious of an representative of Krishna ( who is authority of Krishna ) then you must be also envious the Krishna for he is the actual controller not the authority. ( who is just like mother ) actual controller is your papa ( aka Krishna )

thus you are envious. and that is the proof that you are failure at once. enviousness is the disqualification.

Oh no, you pagan worshiper - my problem is not with Krishna (if you choose to call the creator so), my problem is with all this non-sense and rituals you chose to follow to reach Krishna!

Do you really think this satanic way of worship will lead you to the creator, you hypnotized blind fool?


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Do you call this a religion you're promoting, you pathetic pagan - coming here calling people names because they don't accept your crap > like the world need more warlocks and sorcerers!

Go stick your head up a cows ass, do I care...

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Crouton on May 13, 2017, 01:49:33 PM

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Thanks for your insight. Your arguments are well thought out and your presentation is impeccable. Please, tell me more.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Dither on May 13, 2017, 03:20:05 PM
and thus your only policy is **give dog bad name and hang it** that is all. so now i also will just leave beating the horse who is already dead. that is all.

I've been told beating dogs and horses makes the meat tastier.

Don't swat any mosquitoes on the way out.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 07:26:47 PM
That father-mother analogy is out of place and outdated > it only works on mind-controlled sheeple!!!
Religion should be open and free - directly addressed to the creator and not through swindlers and magicians - anything other than that is pure Satanic!

and if mum and dad analogy is outdated then i also dont beat the dead horse(s) like you. that is all.

and simply dry talkings will not work here. for if you think it is out dated then give me another way to know my father who used to exited before my birth. and no saying that i have seen him before my birth.

so give me another way by which i understand this thing that who is my real father. come on ( rascal pig )

and at the top if you are envious of an representative of Krishna ( who is authority of Krishna ) then you must be also envious the Krishna for he is the actual controller not the authority. ( who is just like mother ) actual controller is your papa ( aka Krishna )

thus you are envious. and that is the proof that you are failure at once. enviousness is the disqualification.

Oh no, you pagan worshiper - my problem is not with Krishna (if you choose to call the creator so), my problem is with all this non-sense and rituals you chose to follow to reach Krishna!

Do you really think this satanic way of worship will lead you to the creator, you hypnotized blind fool?


Do you call this a religion you're promoting, you pathetic pagan - coming here calling people names because they don't accept your crap > like the world need more warlocks and sorcerers!

Go stick your head up a cows ass, do I care...

and you are envious of an authority. that he is controlling the masses thus you must be also envious of Krishna for he is the real controller not the authority. your mum is not the creator but your papa is ( Aka Krishna ) envious ( pig )

thus you are indirectly envious of Krishna. and it is visible. thus i also dont beat the horse like you who is already dead.

and what is satanic or christian ? since as christian you do not follow christ at all. for he christ has said *Thou shall not kill* and his birthday is celebrated by killing turkey. ( just see the fun )

since you are failure. nor you are real christian.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 07:31:04 PM
and thus your only policy is **give dog bad name and hang it** that is all. so now i also will just leave beating the horse who is already dead. that is all.

I've been told beating dogs and horses makes the meat tastier.

Don't swat any mosquitoes on the way out.

and before you start polishing yourself as intelligent in the first place kindly tell us that what solid, verifialbe and tangible explanation is there in your christianity ?

kindly explain it so that i can undestand what is what.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Dither on May 13, 2017, 08:12:48 PM
kindly explain it so that i can undestand what is what.

Oh,
We are being kind and respectful to each other now are we?
I'm sorry, I didn't pick that up from your hate filled rants.
 
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 13, 2017, 08:34:32 PM
IT'S A TRAP!!
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 08:47:47 PM
kindly explain it so that i can undestand what is what.

Oh,
We are being kind and respectful to each other now are we?
I'm sorry, I didn't pick that up from your hate filled rants.

and there is no explanation in your christianity. and people are now becoming first class man. so how this religion ( christianity ) will be accepted by first class man ? it is religion of 10th class man. thou shall not kill, thou shall not adultery, thou shall not steal, this means christ was preaching among killers, prostitute hunters, and theives etc. unless he was among such people why he used to preach like that ??

and at the top you do not follow Jesus Christ practically. you are celebrating his birthday by killing turkey. when Christ already said *Thou shall not kill* thus you are not even christian. you are hypocrite who is cheating the masses.

and how long you will cheat the people with such duplicity ? and how this christianity religion of primivite man will be accepted by first class man ? what solid explanation is there ? in your christianity ? explain that explanation.

so that we can see what is what.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 08:49:05 PM
IT'S A TRAP!!

yes sir i know it that your only policy is **give dog bad name and hang it** it is not something new. for you are failure in reasonable argument.

you are nothing but an failure. and now you can have fun in your **fools paradise** ( son of your neigbour )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 13, 2017, 11:14:02 PM
Superpower by 2020.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 13, 2017, 11:20:02 PM

Superpower by 2020.

what ? what are you talking ? your words dont makes any sense. i dont understand what you are talking. my ( good ) friend

can you speak frankly whatever you want to say ? for your words are out of my brain. and i never heard such words before so kindly tell me more.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 14, 2017, 02:12:04 AM
That father-mother analogy is out of place and outdated > it only works on mind-controlled sheeple!!!
Religion should be open and free - directly addressed to the creator and not through swindlers and magicians - anything other than that is pure Satanic!

and if mum and dad analogy is outdated then i also dont beat the dead horse(s) like you. that is all.

and simply dry talkings will not work here. for if you think it is out dated then give me another way to know my father who used to exited before my birth. and no saying that i have seen him before my birth.

so give me another way by which i understand this thing that who is my real father. come on ( rascal pig )

and at the top if you are envious of an representative of Krishna ( who is authority of Krishna ) then you must be also envious the Krishna for he is the actual controller not the authority. ( who is just like mother ) actual controller is your papa ( aka Krishna )

thus you are envious. and that is the proof that you are failure at once. enviousness is the disqualification.

Oh no, you pagan worshiper - my problem is not with Krishna (if you choose to call the creator so), my problem is with all this non-sense and rituals you chose to follow to reach Krishna!

Do you really think this satanic way of worship will lead you to the creator, you hypnotized blind fool?


Do you call this a religion you're promoting, you pathetic pagan - coming here calling people names because they don't accept your crap > like the world need more warlocks and sorcerers!

Go stick your head up a cows ass, do I care...

and you are envious of an authority. that he is controlling the masses thus you must be also envious of Krishna for he is the real controller not the authority. your mum is not the creator but your papa is ( Aka Krishna ) envious ( pig )

thus you are indirectly envious of Krishna. and it is visible. thus i also dont beat the horse like you who is already dead.

and what is satanic or christian ? since as christian you do not follow christ at all. for he christ has said *Thou shall not kill* and his birthday is celebrated by killing turkey. ( just see the fun )

since you are failure. nor you are real christian.

First of all; where in hell did you read in my quotes that I was a Christian?
Do I sound like a man who worships another man? Do I now?
I love Christ as a teacher and a messenger of God, but I do not follow Christianity (represented by the Catholic Church) with their pagan, polytheist belief!

Can't you see that my belief is directly connected with my creator (I hate taxes and I refuse to pay them to the wrong authorities).
And that's what I've been trying to tell you - but, talking to a hypnotized shell who believes monkeys, elephants, wizards and demons are representatives of the creator, is like blowing in a hollow object!

Hinduism as teachings of morals that was brought to that part of the world by the great teachers of the past, has unfortunately been diverted into a pagan belief of idealizing those past teachers by turning them into gods and making statues of their images to be worshiped - thinking it would connect the believers with their creator!

Yomam's role is past gone and what remains of her is her teachings that you should follow and not her image that you should worship!

Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and so on, were all great teachers and their image should be in our hearts and not to be represented with statues, so future ignorant, brainwashed generations would worship them - because once you open the door for such pagan satanic beliefs and worshiping rituals, that door will never be shut again!

I respect MAMA but I don't worship her > wake up and snap out of it...
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 03:13:01 AM

First of all; where in hell did you read in my quotes that I was a Christian?
Do I sound *skip*Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and so on, were all great teachers and their image should be in our hearts and not to be represented with statues, so future ignorant, brainwashed generations would worship them - because once you open the door for such pagan satanic beliefs and worshiping rituals, that door will never be shut again!

I respect MAMA but I don't worship her > wake up and snap out of it...

and now why do you **impose** ( or shift burdon of proof ) other authorities like christian, muslim, bhudhists and other 3500 religious authroties on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all ? why ? `1st of all tell us that explanation they hvae given to us ? and if they have given to us nothing then why do you *impose* there authorities on us ? ( why ? tell me the damn reasonable answer ? )
_____________________
and as far as question of brainwashing so there is no brain. and if there is any brain at all then ( fertile brain ) recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute and prove it that there is any brian at all. ( after all its an open challenge )
___________
and now let us hope that such an **rascal dog** like you will recall anything at all. come on sir if there is any brain then let us test it`1st then we shall talk about washing your so called brain. ( come on *fertile brain* after all its an open challenge )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 14, 2017, 06:15:51 AM

Superpower by 2020.

what ? what are you talking ? your words dont makes any sense. i dont understand what you are talking. my ( good ) friend

can you speak frankly whatever you want to say ? for your words are out of my brain. and i never heard such words before so kindly tell me more.

Now you are the foolish idiot failure.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 14, 2017, 08:36:40 AM
This has to be the most confusing thread right now on this site.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 08:53:42 AM
This has to be the most confusing thread right now on this site.

and what is that confusion ? kindly explain it now.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 14, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
This has to be the most confusing thread right now on this site.

and what is that confusion ? kindly explain it now.

Your word salad.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 14, 2017, 10:05:51 AM

First of all; where in hell did you read in my quotes that I was a Christian?
Do I sound *skip*Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and so on, were all great teachers and their image should be in our hearts and not to be represented with statues, so future ignorant, brainwashed generations would worship them - because once you open the door for such pagan satanic beliefs and worshiping rituals, that door will never be shut again!

I respect MAMA but I don't worship her > wake up and snap out of it...

and now why do you **impose** ( or shift burdon of proof ) other authorities like christian, muslim, bhudhists and other 3500 religious authroties on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all ? why ? `1st of all tell us that explanation they hvae given to us ? and if they have given to us nothing then why do you *impose* there authorities on us ? ( why ? tell me the damn reasonable answer ? )
_____________________
and as far as question of brainwashing so there is no brain. and if there is any brain at all then ( fertile brain ) recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute and prove it that there is any brian at all. ( after all its an open challenge )
___________
and now let us hope that such an **rascal dog** like you will recall anything at all. come on sir if there is any brain then let us test it`1st then we shall talk about washing your so called brain. ( come on *fertile brain* after all its an open challenge )

I refuse to be called a dog - I'm afraid one day you might worship me! > You worship almost every animal and turn might come to dogs, and I refuse to be worshiped!  :o

Hey, it might become a life style after you and people would raise their own gods/ dogs > they can even choose the breed that goes with their personality and life style!

And if high authorities are satisfied with you being a true believer, you're allowed to take more than one dog/ god!
> If You raise a Shih Tzu and a Bulldog > you can get a Bullshit for heir!

so, please don't call me dog, and please, please don't worship me...  ::)
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 10:27:53 AM

First of all; where in hell did you read in my quotes that I was a Christian?
Do I sound *skip*Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and so on, were all great teachers and their image should be in our hearts and not to be represented with statues, so future ignorant, brainwashed generations would worship them - because once you open the door for such pagan satanic beliefs and worshiping rituals, that door will never be shut again!

I respect MAMA but I don't worship her > wake up and snap out of it...

and now why do you **impose** ( or shift burdon of proof ) other authorities like christian, muslim, bhudhists and other 3500 religious authroties on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all ? why ? `1st of all tell us that explanation they hvae given to us ? and if they have given to us nothing then why do you *impose* there authorities on us ? ( why ? tell me the damn reasonable answer ? )
_____________________
and as far as question of brainwashing so there is no brain. and if there is any brain at all then ( fertile brain ) recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute and prove it that there is any brian at all. ( after all its an open challenge )
___________
and now let us hope that such an **rascal dog** like you will recall anything at all. come on sir if there is any brain then let us test it`1st then we shall talk about washing your so called brain. ( come on *fertile brain* after all its an open challenge )

I refuse to be called a dog - I'm afraid one day you might worship me! > You worship almost every animal and turn might come to dogs, and I refuse to be worshiped!  :o

Hey, it might become a life style after you and people would raise their own gods/ dogs > they can even choose the breed that goes with their personality and life style!

And if high authorities are satisfied with you being a true believer, you're allowed to take more than one dog/ god!
> If You raise a Shih Tzu and a Bulldog > you can get a Bullshit for heir!

so, please don't call me dog, and please, please don't worship me...  ::)

and ( foolish pig ) now recall everything and prove it that there is any brain at all. so that can move on washing your so called brain. come on ( son of your neigbour ) recall everything and prove it that there is any brain at all.

( after all its an open challenge ) so dont avoid the real issue now. and recall everything so that we can see that weather there is any brain at all or not.

come on ( rascal pig ) go ahead and do it quickly. come on now. come to ground envious pig. prove it that there is any brain now.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 14, 2017, 01:15:28 PM
This has to be the most confusing thread right now on this site.

and what is that confusion ? kindly explain it now.

Why do you ask everyone to kindly explain stuff? You know what? NO! You won't tell me what to do. I will not explain it, and I won't do it kindly. There, is that unkind enough?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 14, 2017, 01:18:52 PM
Also, what's (with the) (unnecessary) (parentheses) (every (couple (of) sentences))? Your posts look like algebra.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 14, 2017, 01:26:59 PM
Also, what's (with the) (unnecessary) (parentheses) (every (couple (of) words))? Your posts look like algebra.

I read the parenthetical insults in the voice of Gollum. It actually made the posts much more interesting.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 14, 2017, 01:37:25 PM
Also, what's (with the) (unnecessary) (parentheses) (every (couple (of) words))? Your posts look like algebra.

I read the parenthetical insults in the voice of Gollum. It actually made the posts much more interesting.

I read the bold parts in the voice of the old guy from Courage the Cowardly Dog.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 14, 2017, 02:35:08 PM
If you're gonna call people stupid for their beliefs then expect the same in return.

(https://s16.postimg.org/rdxhmwen9/toilet-worship.jpg)
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 08:40:59 PM
This has to be the most confusing thread right now on this site.

and what is that confusion ? kindly explain it now.

Why do you ask everyone to kindly explain stuff? You know what? NO! You won't tell me what to do. I will not explain it, and I won't do it kindly. There, is that unkind enough?

then what is the confusion ? if there is no confusion then why do you pose like that ? why do you speak nonsense than ?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 14, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
The confusion is we don't know what you're trying to say and you seem to be insulting everyone.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 08:51:37 PM
Also, what's (with the) (unnecessary) (parentheses) (every (couple (of) sentences))? Your posts look like algebra.

and ( dullard ) if there is any damn confusion then point it out. and if there is no confusion then i also dont beat the dead horse(s) like you. that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Also, what's (with the) (unnecessary) (parentheses) (every (couple (of) words))? Your posts look like algebra.

I read the parenthetical insults in the voice of Gollum. It actually made the posts much more interesting.

and now let us hope that your intelligent or say wise`1 ( Hannibaal ) aka an rascal pig will recall anything at all. so that we can see that weather there is any brain at all or you are simply with the policy of **give dog bad name and hang it**

and if he failed in recalling everything then where is brain ? and if there is no brain then where is question of washing your so called brain ? where is the question of washing your so called brain ( foolish dog ) there is no brain.

and at the top you all are nothing but an failure. that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 08:57:39 PM
If you're gonna call people stupid for their beliefs then expect the same in return.

(https://s16.postimg.org/rdxhmwen9/toilet-worship.jpg)

so you mean that this man has supplied more verifialbe and tangible explanation then this Practical explanation ? alright then explain it to me also. so that i also can follow him. ( along with you all )

and if there is no explanation then you keep your garbage to yourself with your fellow sheeps. ( rascal dog )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 14, 2017, 09:13:56 PM
Lawl.

Bullseye.

Edit.

This guy is Intikam 2.0.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 09:40:16 PM
Lawl.

Bullseye.

and you are failure. you are failure in telling us this thing that what explanation this man has who worships potty seat.

and at the top only policy is *give dog bad name and hang it* you are that rascal pig.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Twerp on May 14, 2017, 09:41:45 PM
Is that you Intikam?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 14, 2017, 09:44:59 PM
Well, if you have to know.

That particular picture is of a man given a toilet, he didn't know what to do with it so he worshipped it.

I thought it was funny as you are shitting on everyone elses beliefs.

I have a strange sense of humour I guess.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 14, 2017, 09:54:42 PM
Well, if you have to know.

That particular picture is of a man given a toilet, he didn't know what to do with it so he worshipped it.

I thought it was funny as you are shitting on everyone elses beliefs.

I have a strange sense of humour I guess.

and my ( dear ) cutie pie recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute `1st of all. so that we can see that you are really an sane person OR just an *son of his neigbour*
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 14, 2017, 10:00:24 PM
I'm not sane, I thought that was clear by now.

Do better.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 15, 2017, 12:42:21 AM

We have one father and his name is "Adam" in 200 languages.

You suggest Hare Krishna is God's name and denying to the name as God. If you, why don't you accept praying in the name of God, instead of Hare something. What is difference?

I am in this regard because I do not like god fools. God has a lot of names on its name and it's just the Adam's imagination.

We can simply try it. Okey lets do it.

1- Both of us lets start to day with saying "God helps me".

After day end, notice what lived in day.

2- Second day, we'll start to day with saying "Hare Krishna"

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

3- Third day, we'll start to day with "bism illah".

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

Compare them.

If first second one is better than the first one, God's real name is Hare something and he like to heard it. Misleading results can be obtained with few examples but the number of trials will be increased and the correct result will be approached.

Okey lets go.
Suddenly I see great resemblance between Intikam and Beni Gabor from "the Mummy"
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f3/e7/48/f3e7489016c5950372fa217d076113f2.jpg)
see what I mean? :P :P :P
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 15, 2017, 04:32:48 AM

First of all; where in hell did you read in my quotes that I was a Christian?
Do I sound *skip*Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and so on, were all great teachers and their image should be in our hearts and not to be represented with statues, so future ignorant, brainwashed generations would worship them - because once you open the door for such pagan satanic beliefs and worshiping rituals, that door will never be shut again!

I respect MAMA but I don't worship her > wake up and snap out of it...

and now why do you **impose** ( or shift burdon of proof ) other authorities like christian, muslim, bhudhists and other 3500 religious authroties on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all ? why ? `1st of all tell us that explanation they hvae given to us ? and if they have given to us nothing then why do you *impose* there authorities on us ? ( why ? tell me the damn reasonable answer ? )
_____________________
and as far as question of brainwashing so there is no brain. and if there is any brain at all then ( fertile brain ) recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute and prove it that there is any brian at all. ( after all its an open challenge )
___________
and now let us hope that such an **rascal dog** like you will recall anything at all. come on sir if there is any brain then let us test it`1st then we shall talk about washing your so called brain. ( come on *fertile brain* after all its an open challenge )

I refuse to be called a dog - I'm afraid one day you might worship me! > You worship almost every animal and turn might come to dogs, and I refuse to be worshiped!  :o

Hey, it might become a life style after you and people would raise their own gods/ dogs > they can even choose the breed that goes with their personality and life style!

And if high authorities are satisfied with you being a true believer, you're allowed to take more than one dog/ god!
> If You raise a Shih Tzu and a Bulldog > you can get a Bullshit for heir!

so, please don't call me dog, and please, please don't worship me...  ::)

and ( foolish pig ) now recall everything and prove it that there is any brain at all. so that can move on washing your so called brain. come on ( son of your neigbour ) recall everything and prove it that there is any brain at all.

( after all its an open challenge ) so dont avoid the real issue now. and recall everything so that we can see that weather there is any brain at all or not.

come on ( rascal pig ) go ahead and do it quickly. come on now. come to ground envious pig. prove it that there is any brain now.

No, no, no... not a pig - I hate pigs > but, if you insist on worshiping me, then I'd rather be a rat - it's widely worshiped in Hinduism and passionately taken care of!


(https://s8.postimg.org/3q346b6mt/a-hindu-puja-with-rats-at-the-bizarre-karni-mata.jpg)

(https://s13.postimg.org/mhb0yvl7r/holy-rat-temple-dennis-cox-worldviews.jpg)

(https://s23.postimg.org/rcy0vj4gr/karni_mata_temple_bikaner.jpg)

(https://s24.postimg.org/mb6dinno5/rats2.jpg)


Say your prayers nahaei... and bon appitet

Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 15, 2017, 04:49:11 AM
what a shame,

I just wanted to learn something more about Hinduism and I hoped that Nahaei was the right person for that...but it seems that Nahaei is also not capable of explaining stuff in an open way without being rude or insulting.
Like Hannibaal said...saying that Krishna is the one and only God, that he is Almighty and has no limits...and then stating that he expands himself into thousands other Gods with equal power...that doesn't work for me...something is crooked in this story. Why would a God need to expand himself into other Gods if he has the power of managing everything by being the only one?
It's like having two exact the same copies of the Bible and then stating that you can read twice as fast.
doesn't make any sense...
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 15, 2017, 04:50:38 AM
Also, what's (with the) (unnecessary) (parentheses) (every (couple (of) sentences))? Your posts look like algebra.

and ( dullard ) if there is any damn confusion then point it out. and if there is no confusion then i also dont beat the dead horse(s) like you. that is all.

(Is (it (really))) (**rascal dog**)(?)
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 15, 2017, 04:52:59 AM
Well, if you have to know.

That particular picture is of a man given a toilet, he didn't know what to do with it so he worshipped it.

I thought it was funny as you are shitting on everyone elses beliefs.

I have a strange sense of humour I guess.

and my ( dear ) cutie pie recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute `1st of all. so that we can see that you are really an sane person OR just an *son of his neigbour*

Is "son of your neighbour" the new "son of whore"?

Is "rascal dog" the new "dishonor, dishonest people"?

Is India the new Turkey?

Are cows the new goats?

Is nahaei the new Intikam?

Nah. Intikam's still funnier.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 16, 2017, 08:34:51 PM

First of all; where in hell did you read in my quotes that I was a Christian?
Do I sound *skip*Christ, Buddha, Mohammed and so on, were all great teachers and their image should be in our hearts and not to be represented with statues, so future ignorant, brainwashed generations would worship them - because once you open the door for such pagan satanic beliefs and worshiping rituals, that door will never be shut again!

I respect MAMA but I don't worship her > wake up and snap out of it...

and now why do you **impose** ( or shift burdon of proof ) other authorities like christian, muslim, bhudhists and other 3500 religious authroties on us ( The Hare Krishnas ) without explaining anything at all ? why ? `1st of all tell us that explanation they hvae given to us ? and if they have given to us nothing then why do you *impose* there authorities on us ? ( why ? tell me the damn reasonable answer ? )
_____________________
and as far as question of brainwashing so there is no brain. and if there is any brain at all then ( fertile brain ) recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute and prove it that there is any brian at all. ( after all its an open challenge )
___________
and now let us hope that such an **rascal dog** like you will recall anything at all. come on sir if there is any brain then let us test it`1st then we shall talk about washing your so called brain. ( come on *fertile brain* after all its an open challenge )

I refuse to be called a dog - I'm afraid one day you might worship me! > You worship almost every animal and turn might come to dogs, and I refuse to be worshiped!  :o

Hey, it might become a life style after you and people would raise their own gods/ dogs > they can even choose the breed that goes with their personality and life style!

And if high authorities are satisfied with you being a true believer, you're allowed to take more than one dog/ god!
> If You raise a Shih Tzu and a Bulldog > you can get a Bullshit for heir!

so, please don't call me dog, and please, please don't worship me...  ::)

and ( foolish pig ) now recall everything and prove it that there is any brain at all. so that can move on washing your so called brain. come on ( son of your neigbour ) recall everything and prove it that there is any brain at all.

( after all its an open challenge ) so dont avoid the real issue now. and recall everything so that we can see that weather there is any brain at all or not.

come on ( rascal pig ) go ahead and do it quickly. come on now. come to ground envious pig. prove it that there is any brain now.

No, no, no... not a pig - I hate pigs > but, if you insist on worshiping me, then I'd rather be a rat - it's widely worshiped in Hinduism and passionately taken care of!

Say your prayers nahaei... and bon appitet

and ( foolish pig ) now you can go on with your policy of **give dog bad name and hang it** and i also dont beat the damn dead horse(s) like you, ( finished )
__________
since im an ignorant brainwashed fallow. but you have been failed in proving this thing that there is any brain at all. you are nothing but an failure. for you cannot recall anything at all nor prove it that there is any brain at all.

falsely puffed up ( rascal dog ) this is what you actually are. that is all. ( finished )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 16, 2017, 08:38:57 PM
what a shame,

I just wanted to learn something more about Hinduism and I hoped that Nahaei was the right person for that...but it seems that Nahaei is also not capable of explaining stuff in an open way without being rude or insulting.
Like Hannibaal said...saying that Krishna is the one and only God, that he is Almighty and has no limits...and then stating that he expands himself into thousands other Gods with equal power...that doesn't work for me...something is crooked in this story. Why would a God need to expand himself into other Gods if he has the power of managing everything by being the only one?
It's like having two exact the same copies of the Bible and then stating that you can read twice as fast.
doesn't make any sense...

and if doesnt makes sense then i also dont beat the dead horse like you. that is all. and Krishna will do as he likes not as you likes. for he is not your servent. but you are already under his grip. but foolishly you can say that im not any under grip.

but that is your foolishness. and you can go on with your will full ignorance.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 16, 2017, 08:41:25 PM
Well, if you have to know.

That particular picture is of a man given a toilet, he didn't know what to do with it so he worshipped it.

I thought it was funny as you are shitting on everyone elses beliefs.

I have a strange sense of humour I guess.

and my ( dear ) cutie pie recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute `1st of all. so that we can see that you are really an sane person OR just an *son of his neigbour*

Is "son of your neighbour" the new "son of whore"?

Is "rascal dog" the new "dishonor, dishonest people"?

Is India the new Turkey?

Are cows the new goats?

Is nahaei the new Intikam?

Nah. Intikam's still funnier.

so you mean someone else has given another solid, verifialbe and tangible explanation which is equal or say more powerful then this Practical explanation ? alright explain it now. so that we can see what is what.

( come on **foolish idiot** dont polish yourself as intelligent and explain another explanation so that we can see where you actually stands )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: boydster on May 16, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
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Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 16, 2017, 08:46:33 PM
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Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 17, 2017, 01:39:41 AM
Well, if you have to know.

That particular picture is of a man given a toilet, he didn't know what to do with it so he worshipped it.

I thought it was funny as you are shitting on everyone elses beliefs.

I have a strange sense of humour I guess.

and my ( dear ) cutie pie recall everything which you have thought or done on each second within`1 minute `1st of all. so that we can see that you are really an sane person OR just an *son of his neigbour*

Is "son of your neighbour" the new "son of whore"?

Is "rascal dog" the new "dishonor, dishonest people"?

Is India the new Turkey?

Are cows the new goats?

Is nahaei the new Intikam?

Nah. Intikam's still funnier.

DNO, allow me to explain to you why this rat worshiper uses this phrase a lot - it is even very common where he comes from > in their Hindu belief, in the absence of the husband from his house for a long time (being working abroad), his neighbor or his brother can perform his FULL duties and obligations towards his family and specially his wife!!!

Ten years ago, I had a Hindu Indian working in my company, and most Indian workers take their annual vacation every two years and not every year, to save as much money this way.

Raju, and that was his name, was on his duties for almost a year and a half, and one day he was offering candy among co-workers and looked so happy!
I asked him what was the celebration for, and he answered; my wife brought me a new "batcha" - which means a new born baby!!!

I hesitated to ask him how could this have happened being away for a year and a half, then I decided not to!
Another Indian of his co-workers and was a Muslim Indian approached me and whispered in my ears; his brother or his neighbor can take over his duties during his absence!!! And, that's a FACT among those people!

So, don't be shocked when you find out that the many of them carry this name, "the son of neighbor" or "the son of brother" which means a bastard!!!

It is very common among them to use this word, because it has become like an oedipus to them!
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: wise on May 17, 2017, 01:59:59 AM
Is that you Intikam?

I am here. To be otherself requeres only I be a maniac who discussing by himself. Do you think I am so?

I am constantly patience on your nonsences.  knock it on the head! I'll get you to the first by your one more nonsense. for your information
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: wise on May 17, 2017, 02:03:32 AM
We have one father and his name is "Adam" in 200 languages.

You suggest Hare Krishna is God's name and denying to the name as God. If you, why don't you accept praying in the name of God, instead of Hare something. What is difference?

I am in this regard because I do not like god fools. God has a lot of names on its name and it's just the Adam's imagination.

We can simply try it. Okey lets do it.

1- Both of us lets start to day with saying "God helps me".

After day end, notice what lived in day.

2- Second day, we'll start to day with saying "Hare Krishna"

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

3- Third day, we'll start to day with "bism illah".

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

Compare them.

If first second one is better than the first one, God's real name is Hare something and he like to heard it. Misleading results can be obtained with few examples but the number of trials will be increased and the correct result will be approached.

Okey lets go.

and why we have one father your mr.adam ? is that means your mr.adam has no father before his birth and he was dropped from the sky into the womb of his mother ? are you that intelligent idiot ?

and at the top tell us `1st of all process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father ? cuz before our birth we never seen him. so tell us the damn process `1st of all.

so that we can see what is what.

Insulting. So you were ignored by Violation of respect laws.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 17, 2017, 03:04:37 AM
We have one father and his name is "Adam" in 200 languages.

You suggest Hare Krishna is God's name and denying to the name as God. If you, why don't you accept praying in the name of God, instead of Hare something. What is difference?

I am in this regard because I do not like god fools. God has a lot of names on its name and it's just the Adam's imagination.

We can simply try it. Okey lets do it.

1- Both of us lets start to day with saying "God helps me".

After day end, notice what lived in day.

2- Second day, we'll start to day with saying "Hare Krishna"

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

3- Third day, we'll start to day with "bism illah".

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

Compare them.

If first second one is better than the first one, God's real name is Hare something and he like to heard it. Misleading results can be obtained with few examples but the number of trials will be increased and the correct result will be approached.

Okey lets go.

and why we have one father your mr.adam ? is that means your mr.adam has no father before his birth and he was dropped from the sky into the womb of his mother ? are you that intelligent idiot ?

and at the top tell us `1st of all process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father ? cuz before our birth we never seen him. so tell us the damn process `1st of all.

so that we can see what is what.

Insulting. So you were ignored by Violation of respect laws.

I urge you to reconsider putting that rat worshiper among us on your ignored list - maybe create a new list for "sons of neighbors" - where he belongs...
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 17, 2017, 03:23:00 AM
Is that you Intikam?

I am here. To be otherself requeres only I be a maniac who discussing by himself. Do you think I am so?

I am constantly patience on your nonsences.  knock it on the head! I'll get you to the first by your one more nonsense. for your information

and i may stay wahtever my ( dear ) cutie pie but what have you recalled yet ? did you proved it that there is any brain at all ?

and i dont hvae to learn anything from you. who is already failure. and if you foolishly think that you carry any solid info then who are you ? are you another authority ? alright give me another explanation so that i can follow you from now.

and if you have nothing then keep your nonsense to yourself with your fellow sheeps. and have fun in your what ? **fools paradise** that is all.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 17, 2017, 03:24:32 AM
We have one father and his name is "Adam" in 200 languages.

You suggest Hare Krishna is God's name and denying to the name as God. If you, why don't you accept praying in the name of God, instead of Hare something. What is difference?

I am in this regard because I do not like god fools. God has a lot of names on its name and it's just the Adam's imagination.

We can simply try it. Okey lets do it.

1- Both of us lets start to day with saying "God helps me".

After day end, notice what lived in day.

2- Second day, we'll start to day with saying "Hare Krishna"

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

3- Third day, we'll start to day with "bism illah".

After day end, both of us notice what we lived in day.

Compare them.

If first second one is better than the first one, God's real name is Hare something and he like to heard it. Misleading results can be obtained with few examples but the number of trials will be increased and the correct result will be approached.

Okey lets go.

and why we have one father your mr.adam ? is that means your mr.adam has no father before his birth and he was dropped from the sky into the womb of his mother ? are you that intelligent idiot ?

and at the top tell us `1st of all process by which we understand this thing that who is our real father ? cuz before our birth we never seen him. so tell us the damn process `1st of all.

so that we can see what is what.

Insulting. So you were ignored by Violation of respect laws.

so child is not interested for education. But it is the duty of the father to make him educated, sometimes father  punish him. So a child may be foolish, but how the parents can be foolish? 
 
what is your answer ?? ( foolish dog )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 17, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
Parents can be foolish.

You'll learn this if you ever have kids.

Memba when we were young and there were "adults" who we thought had everything sorted out, only to grow up and realise no one has everything sorted out.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 18, 2017, 12:45:56 AM
Parents can be foolish.

You'll learn this if you ever have kids.

Memba when we were young and there were "adults" who we thought had everything sorted out, only to grow up and realise no one has everything sorted out.

so those parents are fools who want to educate there childerns ? ( just see the fun ) and i have to believe such an **rascal dog** like you ? ( just see the folly )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 18, 2017, 01:22:45 AM
Listen, Pajeet, my son.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling us all rascal dogs.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 18, 2017, 02:31:27 AM
Listen, Pajeet, my son.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling us all rascal dogs.

You see, those people do not eat animals but they worship them!

ٍSo, when he calls you or others a dog, that means he's praising you!
I chose the rat - they treat it very well in India!  ;D

He never calls anybody an elephant or a monkey, because they're considered high priests!
Few more posts and we shall be upgraded...
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: FalseProphet on May 18, 2017, 02:55:15 AM
Hindus do not worship animals.

Cows are honored, because they feed humans by providing them milk and cheese. Like a mother does. But they are not worshiped.

Rats are killed, not honored, except in one special temple. i do not know the story behind it.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: nahaei on May 18, 2017, 04:55:24 AM
Listen, Pajeet, my son.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling us all rascal dogs.

and rascal must be called rascal. why shall i make any compromise ? why ? you are an rascal dog. and i called what you actually are. so what is wrong there ?

and at the top now there is no meaning in beating the dead horse(s) like you. ( simply waste of time )
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: disputeone on May 18, 2017, 04:56:42 AM
You should start an ignore list.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 18, 2017, 10:49:44 AM
( :P)
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: napoleon on May 18, 2017, 10:32:33 PM
Listen, Pajeet, my son.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling us all rascal dogs.

and rascal must be called rascal. why shall i make any compromise ? why ? you are an rascal dog. and i called what you actually are. so what is wrong there ?

and at the top now there is no meaning in beating the dead horse(s) like you. ( simply waste of time )
everything is wrong...you cannot just insult people just because they don't agree with you on something. I don't know what Krishna exactly teaches you, but I am sure he doesn't teach you to call someone a rascal dog just because of a different opinion. so, you are being dishonest to your own religion.
Are you really that pathetic that you have to learn on a forum how to be (or at least act like) a civilised person?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 19, 2017, 03:21:00 AM
Listen, Pajeet, my son.

I'd appreciate it if you stopped calling us all rascal dogs.

and rascal must be called rascal. why shall i make any compromise ? why ? you are an rascal dog. and i called what you actually are. so what is wrong there ?

and at the top now there is no meaning in beating the dead horse(s) like you. ( simply waste of time )
everything is wrong...you cannot just insult people just because they don't agree with you on something. I don't know what Krishna exactly teaches you, but I am sure he doesn't teach you to call someone a rascal dog just because of a different opinion. so, you are being dishonest to your own religion.
Are you really that pathetic that you have to learn on a forum how to be (or at least act like) a civilised person?

It's in their belief not to accept the other!

They believe they are the only true religion and the oldest one on the face on the earth, where in fact Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Taoism are not religions; they are a philosophy and a way of life!

God has sent a prophet or a messenger to every nation on the face of the earth - to teach them the morals and to raise their awareness of the existence of a higher and a much more intelligent creator.
With time and with ignorance under the influence of their priests and wizards, they idolized their teachers in statues to be worshiped and created a barrier between the sheeple and the supreme creator, which only can be reached and approached through the gates of the wizards!

Religions in general have become a monopoly game controlled and run by those seeking immortality over the billions who have no guarantee they could live till tomorrow!

God has become a trade mark and a property of certain enterprises and political organizations; idolized to be close to the believers, crucified and tortured to win the hearts of the millions, taxed to be reached and be connected to.

So, what could you expect from a person who worships a rat, baths in cows urine and is the "son of a neighbor"?
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 19, 2017, 03:52:38 AM
They believe they are the only true religion,

I know right? How uncommon for religious folks! Never seen that again with any other religion.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: FalseProphet on May 19, 2017, 04:11:32 AM
They believe they are the only true religion,

I know right? How uncommon for religious folks! Never seen that again with any other religion.

To be fair to Hannibunny, he seems to believe in his own crap.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 19, 2017, 05:02:55 AM
They believe they are the only true religion,

I know right? How uncommon for religious folks! Never seen that again with any other religion.

To be fair to Hannibunny, he seems to believe in his own crap.

Not really FalseCrap - my belief is quite simple, if you ask me > I believe in One creator of this whole universe with all what it beholds, and that the creator is capable of reaching those who have accepted and believed in Him, and that the gate to reach Him is through the heart and the heart only!

If you believe in that, then you & I follow the same religion and anybody else in this world that believe in so, regardless of their race, color and financial situation.

So, if the creator is capable of reaching those who believe in Him, why then would I need a priest or a wizard, and why would I need to perform different rituals and sacrifices to reach my creator?

All I have to do is just open my heart to make the connection > and that is the easiest thing anybody can do, even the poor ones! They don't need all that crap and satanic acts that keep them in delusion and under control!
The original religion came to free the souls from human control and mind manipulation!

So, tell me; where is the selfishness in my belief?  ::)
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Pezevenk on May 19, 2017, 06:14:34 AM
It's not selfish, I just think you've completely given up on thinking about stuff.
Title: Re: Here is Practical Explanation about Next Life, Purpose of Human Life,
Post by: Hannibaal on May 19, 2017, 08:42:13 AM
It's not selfish, I just think you've completely given up on thinking about stuff.

Maybe I just see things different from what you see - things you might not bother to look into!
And maybe you're right - why should I care if someone somewhere in the world worships a rat and be called the "son of a neighbor"?

In Thailand they worship a man's penis, for crying out loud!!!  ???