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Title: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: jeranism on April 11, 2017, 03:53:05 AM
Hello all-

I rarely come by these parts as it is mostly a collection of little boys who use so-called science, Wikipedia and consensus belief as fact while trying to be smart by arguing the shape of the earth with those who they feel are far less intellectually capable then themselves. So, to those Globe believers that have 100-200 posts, I can see that. You come here, you make a few points, debunk a few claims... makes sense.

This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence. I see constant name calling and building yourselves up like you are some kind of intellectual. Ask yourself, why in the world you would spend your time on a forum for flat-tards as you call them? What could possibly be the motivation? Do you also run track against people in wheelchairs and have eating competitions against toddlers. Wow, you ate more hot dogs than that 2 year old? Impressive. Won that swim meet against the lady with no arms? Well aren't your parents proud!

Is that really the best you can do?  Debate those who you think are ignorant and the scum of the world?  You chose the forum full of what you consider ignorant flat earth fools to flex your intellectual muscles?  I am really impressed. Tell me, where can I find the next NY Yankees vs. The Inner City of Chicago Little League game? Should be a barn burner. Seems to me you guys secretly doubt your own beliefs and this place makes you feel all warm and cozy. This way you can sleep well at night and think of Elon Musk stroking your hair gently. Good night sweet prince... don't forget to say your prayers! "I thank the big bang for everything, thanks stellar theory and gravity for holding me down. Thanks St. Newton for telling us how a cannon would work if we shot it too far, not far enough and most importantly, if we shot it just right!  Thanks for all the wonderful things in orbit and all NASA has provided the human race. Thanks Arthur C. Clarke for giving NASA your satellite ideas and thanks to the the big blue globe for pulling us all to the center. Thanks amoeba for evolving into me. Thanks star dust for creating schools to indoctrinate me and thank you most for flat earthers so I can feel smart by referring to facts that men say are true and I really trust them. In the name of The Physics, The Sun and the Holy Peer Reviewed Journals -  Ahhhh men!"
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 11, 2017, 04:06:28 AM
Most of the globalists that come here are far from intellectuals. They're basically parrots.
Copy and paste monsters that possess little free thought.

There's a small percentage of genuine global believers that are looking for the truth, I believe but most are a little bit too apprehensive to actually dare to delve too far in, in case they are set upon by the mass of globalists just waiting to attack, plus more that weirdly join the forum in any such event.
It's one reason why I do not trust this site at all. Too many people playing too many games as some kind of experiment, I think. Or something.

It might be just my distrusting nature but I doubt it.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 11, 2017, 04:15:04 AM
Do you honestly make videos because you believe it jeranism? I haven't watched any of yours but I might if you can tell me it's not for the youtube dollars.

I'll thumbs up if you can link me to one where you are honest and present solid points.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 11, 2017, 04:19:24 AM
I take it back. Won me over with this one,



Really good video, subscribed. I'll check out a few of your FE vids.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: jeranism on April 11, 2017, 04:22:01 AM

Most of the globalists that come here are far from intellectuals. They're basically parrots.
Copy and paste monsters that possess little free thought.


There's a small percentage of genuine global believers that are looking for the truth, I believe but most are a little bit too apprehensive to actually dare to delve too far in, in case they are set upon by the mass of globalists just waiting to attack, plus more that weirdly join the forum in any such event.
It's one reason why I do not trust this site at all. Too many people playing too many games as some kind of experiment, I think. Or something.


It might be just my distrusting nature but I doubt it.
Oh you couldn't be more correct in being weary of this place. I like to get in and get out. It honestly makes no sense that people who really believe in a Globe would be here day and night arguing it. It is meant to keep you busy and they do a good job of just repeating what we were all taught. We KNOW that the consensus belief is that we live on the spinning ball. Thanks a lot. Oh really, the moon hoax has been debunked? You son't say! And with all this easy and obvious evidence, they stay here day after day after day. The strangest thing is... if the Earth were flat, this is exactly what I would expect to see as a safeguard against the spreading of the biggest conspiracy and lie of all time. If it were round, there would not be a Globe believer with more than 10 posts. They'd have far better things to do.


So, anyone with a brain can see what is going on here.  Jordan Maxwell says it best: [size=78%]http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZTCMB4fsOQ (http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ZTCMB4fsOQ)[/size]



Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: jeranism on April 11, 2017, 04:26:57 AM

I take it back. Won me over with this one,





Really good video, subscribed. I'll check out a few of your FE vids.


Thanks. All I can promise you is that every video I make is 100% my honest opinion and thoughts. I can't say that I am right but I am questioning the world that has been taught to me and when researching am able to see a hidden secret that I think many others gloss over. There is no proof of the ball earth. Not the kind that should be expected from a scientific fact taught to children during their formative years. Sad what they have done to humanity. Knowledge is power and so they have taken our brain and made sure that we don't know who we are, why we are here and where we are. Doing my very best at trying to expose humanities deceivers before it is too late and our children and their children are nothing but brain dead slaves.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 11, 2017, 04:39:33 AM
I agree with most of that, there are a few things that I think are self evidence for a globe, I'll check out your videos, I like to think I'm not too brainwashed but I can't promise anything lol.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 11, 2017, 05:15:35 AM
This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence.
Says the guy who spends all his time making idiotic youtube videos and getting his ass handed to him in debates.

Do you have some reason for being here?  Other than berating "globe earth believers" to make you feel a bit better about your ridiculous life?

Fancy a debate?  Pick your flat earth subject....
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 11, 2017, 05:34:20 AM
I've never seen a flat earther "win" a debate to be fair.

But going by their model we can't trust anything anyone says ever, so we're left with things like the sunrise and set, lunar cycles, star trails rotating around a point, ships over the horizon etc.

I still think the globe earth has the majority of the evidence personally.
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Lonegranger on April 11, 2017, 05:52:48 AM
Hello all-

I rarely come by these parts as it is mostly a collection of little boys who use so-called science, Wikipedia and consensus belief as fact while trying to be smart by arguing the shape of the earth with those who they feel are far less intellectually capable then themselves. So, to those Globe believers that have 100-200 posts, I can see that. You come here, you make a few points, debunk a few claims... makes sense.

This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence. I see constant name calling and building yourselves up like you are some kind of intellectual. Ask yourself, why in the world you would spend your time on a forum for flat-tards as you call them? What could possibly be the motivation? Do you also run track against people in wheelchairs and have eating competitions against toddlers. Wow, you ate more hot dogs than that 2 year old? Impressive. Won that swim meet against the lady with no arms? Well aren't your parents proud!

Is that really the best you can do?  Debate those who you think are ignorant and the scum of the world?  You chose the forum full of what you consider ignorant flat earth fools to flex your intellectual muscles?  I am really impressed. Tell me, where can I find the next NY Yankees vs. The Inner City of Chicago Little League game? Should be a barn burner. Seems to me you guys secretly doubt your own beliefs and this place makes you feel all warm and cozy. This way you can sleep well at night and think of Elon Musk stroking your hair gently. Good night sweet prince... don't forget to say your prayers! "I thank the big bang for everything, thanks stellar theory and gravity for holding me down. Thanks St. Newton for telling us how a cannon would work if we shot it too far, not far enough and most importantly, if we shot it just right!  Thanks for all the wonderful things in orbit and all NASA has provided the human race. Thanks Arthur C. Clarke for giving NASA your satellite ideas and thanks to the the big blue globe for pulling us all to the center. Thanks amoeba for evolving into me. Thanks star dust for creating schools to indoctrinate me and thank you most for flat earthers so I can feel smart by referring to facts that men say are true and I really trust them. In the name of The Physics, The Sun and the Holy Peer Reviewed Journals -  Ahhhh men!"

Now there is sanctimonious pish, and then there is this post, one would find it difficult to slip a feeler gauge between them. He/she claims to know the minds of people and the reason behind them posting here, while at the same time being an advocate/ supporter for Jeranism, which I think says all you need to know about their mental state.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Pongo on April 11, 2017, 06:25:01 AM
What really strains the threads of believability are the people that have post counts in the thousands yet still come here are argue for a round earth. Some of them have been here for years and years and simply make new accounts when their current one is played out.

This is something I've posted about before and inquired to people's reasons for staying so long to argue round-earthism. Some say they like the challenge, some say they are actively trying to destroy the flat-earth society (news flash, coming and discussing flat-earth topics is what we want), but most ignore the question.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 11, 2017, 06:35:36 AM
I'm here because I think it's a great forum.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: deadsirius on April 11, 2017, 06:58:38 AM
I like it here.  A lot of the people are interesting, and I enjoy the complete nonsense (intentional or otherwise).

I've never put much energy into trying to convince anyone of the globe.  For one, I know it's pointless.  Secondly, this is a flat-earth forum and I don't wanna be some asshole crashing the party.  Similarly I am a pretty through-and-through atheist but I'm not going to go walking into a church on Sunday and start demanding everyone give me their evidence for God and call them stupid for believing.  "Live and let live" is a cliche but it's a pretty good one.

I do tend to go down the rabbit hole of arguments that are not really directly related to flat vs. round.  Like the existence of acceleration and momentum, or the fact that there should not be a visible curve across the horizon on a flat or round earth.

I am confident in the globe but I've really gotten a lot of value out of having that confidence challenged--I've had to refresh myself on a lot of high-school physics and such that I've forgotten over time.  In the same vein I like to hope that I am able to challenge flat-earthers into refining their arguments and building internal consistency.  Frankly I would LOVE to be convinced I'm wrong about the earth--I think it would be the most exciting thing to ever happen.  Hasn't happened yet but maybe I'm just holding out hope that someday an argument will appear that we can't refute.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 11, 2017, 07:11:22 AM
Hello all-

I rarely come by these parts as it is mostly a collection of little boys who use so-called science, Wikipedia and consensus belief as fact while trying to be smart by arguing the shape of the earth with those who they feel are far less intellectually capable then themselves. So, to those Globe believers that have 100-200 posts, I can see that. You come here, you make a few points, debunk a few claims... makes sense.

This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence. I see constant name calling and building yourselves up like you are some kind of intellectual. Ask yourself, why in the world you would spend your time on a forum for flat-tards as you call them? What could possibly be the motivation? Do you also run track against people in wheelchairs and have eating competitions against toddlers. Wow, you ate more hot dogs than that 2 year old? Impressive. Won that swim meet against the lady with no arms? Well aren't your parents proud!

Is that really the best you can do?  Debate those who you think are ignorant and the scum of the world?  You chose the forum full of what you consider ignorant flat earth fools to flex your intellectual muscles?  I am really impressed. Tell me, where can I find the next NY Yankees vs. The Inner City of Chicago Little League game? Should be a barn burner. Seems to me you guys secretly doubt your own beliefs and this place makes you feel all warm and cozy. This way you can sleep well at night and think of Elon Musk stroking your hair gently. Good night sweet prince... don't forget to say your prayers! "I thank the big bang for everything, thanks stellar theory and gravity for holding me down. Thanks St. Newton for telling us how a cannon would work if we shot it too far, not far enough and most importantly, if we shot it just right!  Thanks for all the wonderful things in orbit and all NASA has provided the human race. Thanks Arthur C. Clarke for giving NASA your satellite ideas and thanks to the the big blue globe for pulling us all to the center. Thanks amoeba for evolving into me. Thanks star dust for creating schools to indoctrinate me and thank you most for flat earthers so I can feel smart by referring to facts that men say are true and I really trust them. In the name of The Physics, The Sun and the Holy Peer Reviewed Journals -  Ahhhh men!"

I have a better question for you Jeranism, are you the best that FE can do?  I don't see your condescending dismissal of RET to be any worse than the angry rantings of RE'ers that you whine about.  Maybe you would be more justified in your superior attitude if more FE'ers at least understood the physics that they're trying to debunk. 

For example, we have some FE'ers that think that rockets can't work in a vacuum and trot out the Joule-Thompson free expansion experiment as "proof".  It makes no difference to them that free expansion only applies to closed, isolated systems and rocket engines are open systems.  They claim that rockets must push against an atmosphere when Newton's second and thirds laws easily demonstrate that they don't.  We have at least one FE'er who claims that there is no such thing as inertia.

Now don't get me wrong, I would actually like to see an FE'er come up with a workable FE model, but I'm not holding my breath.  FE'ers don't seem to understand that it isn't enough to prove RET wrong, you still have to prove that FET is right.  Personally, I don't particularly care for the Bedford Levels type observations because it's too easy for atmospheric conditions to distort the results one way or another.  Rather, I think that it's better to look to the heavens.  If an FE'er can come up with a working, testable model that can demonstrate the FE workings of rising and setting of the sun and moon, solar and lunar eclipses, and the seasonal travels of the sun from the Tropic of Capricorn to the Tropic of Cancer and back, then maybe you might not draw as much ridicule and ire as you currently do.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 11, 2017, 07:16:22 AM
He's only here to get more clickies on his youtube crap anyway.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: jeranism on April 11, 2017, 07:40:22 AM
He's only here to get more clickies on his youtube crap anyway.
Yup, this one is intelligent. The 300 views on this forum will finally get me that BMW. Let's see, $1/1000 views so $0.30/300 views.  Google takes 45%, I get 55%...  yeah.. that $0.17 does it. Don't be sad that your post number is 10x as much as the people this post was intended to reach. There is no reason for you to be here pretending to be smart.  Yeah, that's all I do is just make idiotic youtube videos all day. It would be better if I had 5041 posts in a flat earth forum arguing for the current consensus belief. So tough to do. And as far as getting my ass handed to me in debates... I was on one video debate with a 5000+ poster here MikeMan and drove him into retirement.

----Do you have some reason for being here?
Uhhh, I am a flat earther genius.  That's like me walking into your house and asking you the same.

And look up the definition of "berating"

-------Fancy a debate?  Pick your flat earth subject....
Look everyone... the guy who gets to use science as fact has challenged the guy that will argue that the science isn't a fact. Wow, he's gone out on a limb on this one folks. Stand in awe as he links to wikipedia and drops the mic to prove gravity.
 
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: IonSpen on April 11, 2017, 07:44:25 AM
All those people who argue about "paid shills"(you know who you are...), well, here's your opportunity to chime in!
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 11, 2017, 07:51:48 AM
I am a flat earther genius.
Do you have any evidence to support that outlandish claim?  Such as a working, testable FE model that explains the intricate motions of the celestial bodies?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: jeranism on April 11, 2017, 07:58:10 AM
I have a better question for you Jeranism, are you the best that FE can do?  I don't see your condescending dismissal of RET to be any worse than the angry rantings of RE'ers that you whine about.  Maybe you would be more justified in your superior attitude if more FE'ers at least understood the physics that they're trying to debunk. 
If this were a round earth forum, perhaps this would make sense. But here, it just doesn't. And no, I am sure FE has much better. Who said I think I am good? My "superior attitude" as you call it is simply my confidence in my beliefs.
For example, we have some FE'ers that think that rockets can't work in a vacuum and trot out the Joule-Thompson free expansion experiment as "proof".  It makes no difference to them that free expansion only applies to closed, isolated systems and rocket engines are open systems.  They claim that rockets must push against an atmosphere when Newton's second and thirds laws easily demonstrate that they don't.  We have at least one FE'er who claims that there is no such thing as inertia.
Here is the great thing. How are you going to prove that rockets do work in space? And Newtons Laws are a joke. What is the equal and opposite reaction to the earth spinning? How about to lightning? And how about gravity? You going to parrot the nonsense you were taught like if you lean on a wall it is leaning on you? If I throw a basketball, the basketball is pushing on me? Look at the things you call facts and realize that consensus belief means squat.
Now don't get me wrong, I would actually like to see an FE'er come up with a workable FE model, but I'm not holding my breath.  FE'ers don't seem to understand that it isn't enough to prove RET wrong, you still have to prove that FET is right.  Personally, I don't particularly care for the Bedford Levels type observations because it's too easy for atmospheric conditions to distort the results one way or another.  Rather, I think that it's better to look to the heavens.  If an FE'er can come up with a working, testable model that can demonstrate the FE workings of rising and setting of the sun and moon, solar and lunar eclipses, and the seasonal travels of the sun from the Tropic of Capricorn to the Tropic of Cancer and back, then maybe you might not draw as much ridicule and ire as you currently do.
Perhaps... however to state that we have to come up with proof to show the flat earth model is true is not really the case as when people see that the globe is a metaphysical idea that was taught to school children as scientific fact, then we can have thousands of minds coming together to get the truth. I am one person and if you think one person mapped your globe well you are so very mistaken.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: jeranism on April 11, 2017, 08:05:46 AM
I am a flat earther genius.
Do you have any evidence to support that outlandish claim?  Such as a working, testable FE model that explains the intricate motions of the celestial bodies?
Maybe I didn't punctuate correctly. "I am a flat earther, genius."

And yes, I have evidence. It is that I (that's me) believe (meaning think based on evidence and my observations of reality) that the earth (the place we live) is flat (as in a plane) and not a ball as I was taught.

Nope, I do not have a workable testable model as that will take time and more people seeing what they have been led and bamboozled into believing. Do you know that neither do you? So, you call 95% of the known universe being unobserved workable? Dark matter and dark energy are made up terms that have NEVER BEEN OBSERVED... go look into science for me and tell me if observations are important. 

Then ask yourself why people like Edwin Hubble said things like,

“Such a condition would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central earth. The hypothesis cannot be disproved but it is unwelcome and would be accepted only as a last resort in order to save the phenomena. Therefore, we disregard this possibility and consider the alternative, namely, a distribution which thins out with distance.”
“A thinning out would be readily explained in either of two ways... Both explanations seem plausible, but neither is permitted by the observations. The apparent departures from uniformity in the World Picture are fully compensated by the minimum possible corrections for redshifts on any interpretation. No margin is left for a thinning out. The true distribution must either be uniform or increase outward, leaving the observer in a unique position. But the unwelcome supposition of a favoured location must be avoided at all costs….Such a favoured position, of course, is intolerable … Therefore, in order to restore homogeneity, and to escape the horror of a unique position, the departures from uniformity, which are introduced by the recession factors, must be compensated by the second term representing effects of spatial curvature. There seems to be no other escape.“

Sure sounds like great science to me
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sokarul on April 11, 2017, 08:29:38 AM
I think there is a greater gap between the completeness of the two theories then you think.

As for science, it advances. Nothing strange about that.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 11, 2017, 08:58:28 AM
He's only here to get more clickies on his youtube crap anyway.
Yup, this one is intelligent. The 300 views on this forum will finally get me that BMW. Let's see, $1/1000 views so $0.30/300 views.  Google takes 45%, I get 55%...  yeah.. that $0.17 does it. Don't be sad that your post number is 10x as much as the people this post was intended to reach. There is no reason for you to be here pretending to be smart.  Yeah, that's all I do is just make idiotic youtube videos all day. It would be better if I had 5041 posts in a flat earth forum arguing for the current consensus belief. So tough to do. And as far as getting my ass handed to me in debates... I was on one video debate with a 5000+ poster here MikeMan and drove him into retirement.
...aaaaand breathe out.

You know we have an "angry ranting" section for this shit?

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----Do you have some reason for being here?
Uhhh, I am a flat earther genius.  That's like me walking into your house and asking you the same.
Listen, genius, it's not even remotely similar.  For a start, this isn't a house.  Secondly it's an open forum where anyone can register and express their views (or just have a laugh), whatever they are, not some flat earther circle jerk.

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And look up the definition of "berating"
"scold or criticize (someone) angrily." - seems perfectly appropriate.  Why do you have an issue?  Or did you just want me to look it up for you?

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-------Fancy a debate?  Pick your flat earth subject....
Look everyone... the guy who gets to use science as fact has challenged the guy that will argue that the science isn't a fact. Wow, he's gone out on a limb on this one folks. Stand in awe as he links to wikipedia and drops the mic to prove gravity.
Evasion noted.  Probably for the best judging by your past performances.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 11, 2017, 09:10:15 AM
I have a better question for you Jeranism, are you the best that FE can do?  I don't see your condescending dismissal of RET to be any worse than the angry rantings of RE'ers that you whine about.  Maybe you would be more justified in your superior attitude if more FE'ers at least understood the physics that they're trying to debunk. 
If this were a round earth forum, perhaps this would make sense. But here, it just doesn't. And no, I am sure FE has much better. Who said I think I am good? My "superior attitude" as you call it is simply my confidence in my beliefs.
Then why do you berate RE'ers for their confidence in their beliefs?

For example, we have some FE'ers that think that rockets can't work in a vacuum and trot out the Joule-Thompson free expansion experiment as "proof".  It makes no difference to them that free expansion only applies to closed, isolated systems and rocket engines are open systems.  They claim that rockets must push against an atmosphere when Newton's second and thirds laws easily demonstrate that they don't.  We have at least one FE'er who claims that there is no such thing as inertia.
Here is the great thing. How are you going to prove that rockets do work in space? And Newtons Laws are a joke. What is the equal and opposite reaction to the earth spinning? How about to lightning? And how about gravity? You going to parrot the nonsense you were taught like if you lean on a wall it is leaning on you? If I throw a basketball, the basketball is pushing on me? Look at the things you call facts and realize that consensus belief means squat.
Ah yes, another "researcher" who has apparently never taken a lab physics course.  You do realize that lab physics courses require students to perform real world experiments to verify many of the fundamental principles that are being taught and you deny, don't you?


Now don't get me wrong, I would actually like to see an FE'er come up with a workable FE model, but I'm not holding my breath.  FE'ers don't seem to understand that it isn't enough to prove RET wrong, you still have to prove that FET is right.  Personally, I don't particularly care for the Bedford Levels type observations because it's too easy for atmospheric conditions to distort the results one way or another.  Rather, I think that it's better to look to the heavens.  If an FE'er can come up with a working, testable model that can demonstrate the FE workings of rising and setting of the sun and moon, solar and lunar eclipses, and the seasonal travels of the sun from the Tropic of Capricorn to the Tropic of Cancer and back, then maybe you might not draw as much ridicule and ire as you currently do.
Perhaps... however to state that we have to come up with proof to show the flat earth model is true is not really the case as when people see that the globe is a metaphysical idea that was taught to school children as scientific fact, then we can have thousands of minds coming together to get the truth. I am one person and if you think one person mapped your globe well you are so very mistaken.
You do realize that to dismiss RET is to dismiss pretty much all of the earth sciences along with most of physics, don't you?  How is it even remotely plausible that so many people can do so much hands on research and still be so mistaken about the shape of the earth?

I am a flat earther genius.
Do you have any evidence to support that outlandish claim?  Such as a working, testable FE model that explains the intricate motions of the celestial bodies?
Maybe I didn't punctuate correctly. "I am a flat earther, genius."
So I guess grammar is just one more thing that you have yet to master.

And yes, I have evidence. It is that I (that's me) believe (meaning think based on evidence and my observations of reality) that the earth (the place we live) is flat (as in a plane) and not a ball as I was taught.
Why does it seem that flat earthers have a different definition of the word "evidence" than the rest of the world?


Nope, I do not have a workable testable model as that will take time and more people seeing what they have been led and bamboozled into believing.
Then maybe you should spend less time debunking RET and more time rallying the FET community to research and develop a workable, testable FE model.

Do you know that neither do you? So, you call 95% of the known universe being unobserved workable?
Actually, I'd settle for a workable FE model of our solar system, or at least the sun/earth/moon system.

Dark matter and dark energy are made up terms that have NEVER BEEN OBSERVED... go look into science for me and tell me if observations are important. 
Dark matter may not have been directly observed (hence the name "dark" matter), but its effects have been observed in the form of gravitational lensing.

Then ask yourself why people like Edwin Hubble said things like,

“Such a condition would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central earth. The hypothesis cannot be disproved but it is unwelcome and would be accepted only as a last resort in order to save the phenomena. Therefore, we disregard this possibility and consider the alternative, namely, a distribution which thins out with distance.”
“A thinning out would be readily explained in either of two ways... Both explanations seem plausible, but neither is permitted by the observations. The apparent departures from uniformity in the World Picture are fully compensated by the minimum possible corrections for redshifts on any interpretation. No margin is left for a thinning out. The true distribution must either be uniform or increase outward, leaving the observer in a unique position. But the unwelcome supposition of a favoured location must be avoided at all costs….Such a favoured position, of course, is intolerable … Therefore, in order to restore homogeneity, and to escape the horror of a unique position, the departures from uniformity, which are introduced by the recession factors, must be compensated by the second term representing effects of spatial curvature. There seems to be no other escape.“

Sure sounds like great science to me
I don't think that RE scientists have ever claimed to have all the answers.  In fact, most will acknowledge that the more they learn about the universe, the more questions they find.  At least they don't need to resort to nonsensical versions of perspective to explain a sunset.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 11, 2017, 10:20:21 AM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.

Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 11, 2017, 10:27:38 AM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.
Probably because some people don't understand the delicate art of sarcasm.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: IonSpen on April 11, 2017, 10:57:24 AM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.
I don't see you jumping on jeranism for admitting he's paid actual money for his videos? Seems like you'd be all over that!
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Alpha2Omega on April 11, 2017, 11:27:00 AM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.
I don't see you jumping on jeranism for admitting he's paid actual money for his videos? Seems like you'd be all over that!

According to him it's a pittance, which begs the question why he spends time cranking out video after video for no useful purpose. Maybe he hopes someday his worthless flat-earth videos will bring him some real money, in which case he's the shill. I've watched a few of them; they sport flashy production values but completely bogus arguments. Watching them was, without exception, an utter waste of time.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 11, 2017, 12:15:09 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.
I don't see you jumping on jeranism for admitting he's paid actual money for his videos? Seems like you'd be all over that!

According to him it's a pittance, which begs the question why he spends time cranking out video after video for no useful purpose.


Doing my very best at trying to expose humanities deceivers before it is too late and our children and their children are nothing but brain dead slaves.

The deception is obvious.

Shills abound here!

Earth is flat. There's no arguing that.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Pongo on April 11, 2017, 12:31:15 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.

Watch the personal attacks.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 11, 2017, 12:36:45 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.

Watch the personal attacks.

No, I am sick of deception and will call out inane stupidity when I see it.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Alpha2Omega on April 11, 2017, 01:06:36 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.
I don't see you jumping on jeranism for admitting he's paid actual money for his videos? Seems like you'd be all over that!

According to him it's a pittance, which begs the question why he spends time cranking out video after video for no useful purpose.


Doing my very best at trying to expose humanities deceivers before it is too late and our children and their children are nothing but brain dead slaves.

And we're pointing out the obvious flaws with the FE models that have been proposed so far. Any readers that happen by are shown why the flat earth explanations offered really make no sense even if they may seem appealing on casual glance.

If you want to convince many people that the earth is flat, work on explanations for easily-seen phenomena like sunrises and sunsets, and the sharply-defined horizon at sea. If you can come up with something that explains these as elegantly and simply as a large spherical earth, then that's a good start.

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The deception is obvious.

Shills abound here!

jeranism admits he's paid (but not much) for making his deceptive videos, so in a sense that makes him a shill. Some accuse other forum members who disagree with them of being shills, but there isn't any actual evidence or any real reason to believe they are shills.

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Earth is flat. There's no arguing that.

Apparently there is no argument that the earth is flat; I haven't heard a good one yet. If you have one, let's hear it! Maybe start with the simple and obvious stuff like sunrises and sunsets, then move on if you do better with that than what's been offered so far.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sokarul on April 11, 2017, 01:14:01 PM
A video of ducks doesn't convince you the earth is flat?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: RocksEverywhere on April 11, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
Hey guys I'm late to the party. Nevertheless, saying that all globe earth people here are dumb parrots is a bit of an overgeneralization, don't you think? There are actual scientists here who are just around for shits and giggles and the occasional serious debate. I actually learned a lot from hanging around here - lots of facts I took for granted without ever giving a second thought, and this place made me rethink certain things. The first time someone responded to one of my posts with some pro-flat-earth arguments I was dumbfounded and it took me a while to come back at it - just because I never think about it. So I guess the FE people around here deserve a thank you.

But in the end, I'm still mostly here for the shits and giggles. And of course, to talk about rocks. Rocks rock.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: IonSpen on April 11, 2017, 02:08:24 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.

Watch the personal attacks.

No, I am sick of deception and will call out inane stupidity when I see it.
Once you realize who you were talking to, you might rethink your decision. In which case I really hope you don't.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Lonegranger on April 11, 2017, 03:13:15 PM
What really strains the threads of believability are the people that have post counts in the thousands yet still come here are argue for a round earth. Some of them have been here for years and years and simply make new accounts when their current one is played out.

This is something I've posted about before and inquired to people's reasons for staying so long to argue round-earthism. Some say they like the challenge, some say they are actively trying to destroy the flat-earth society (news flash, coming and discussing flat-earth topics is what we want), but most ignore the question.
Its not to argue 'round earthinism' as you call it, it's to point out the truth.
The world is a sphere plain and simple, gravity exists, whatever its root cause may be, there is no worldwide scientific conspiracy involving countless millions of people and there is no dome or ice wall.
Personally I find flat earth believers quite interesting in the way they can take denial to new heights, any thing that may cast doubt on their belief is rejected as a hoax, CGI or a conspiracy without ever putting forward anything that could be classed as solid evidence.....for how could they when none exists.
Lastly I think the flat earthers would miss ' the angry globurists' for who else would they be able to vent their inner frustrations at?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 11, 2017, 03:14:08 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.

Watch the personal attacks.

No, I am sick of deception and will call out inane stupidity when I see it.
Once you realize who you were talking to, you might rethink your decision. In which case I really hope you don't.

I stand up for what I believe in, no matter what.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Lonegranger on April 11, 2017, 03:17:18 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.

Watch the personal attacks.

No, I am sick of deception and will call out inane stupidity when I see it.
Once you realize who you were talking to, you might rethink your decision. In which case I really hope you don't.

I stand up for what I believe in, no matter what.

.....and that I think sums up flat earthers quite nicely...truth and facts be dammed....belief is far more important, along with thick headed ignorance.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Crouton on April 11, 2017, 04:44:04 PM


Youtube's change of ad policy is really wrecking you isn't it? 

Perhaps it's time to consider an exciting career in budding field of coal mining.

My advice to you is to do what your parents did.  Get a job sir.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/13/1359bb867554501d12454af10433b2f4333d30e8c1ee57f680774a5daa89b7e1.jpg)

The bums lost!  The bums will always lose!
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 11, 2017, 04:48:37 PM


Youtube's change of ad policy is really wrecking you isn't it? 

Perhaps it's time to consider an exciting career in budding field of coal mining.

My advice to you is to do what your parents did.  Get a job sir.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/13/1359bb867554501d12454af10433b2f4333d30e8c1ee57f680774a5daa89b7e1.jpg)

The bums lost!  The bums will always lose!

You heard about that too.

I think it sucks it's a great way to censor without appearing to, only the channels in line with the mainstream media can profit.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Crouton on April 11, 2017, 04:53:14 PM


Youtube's change of ad policy is really wrecking you isn't it? 

Perhaps it's time to consider an exciting career in budding field of coal mining.

My advice to you is to do what your parents did.  Get a job sir.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/13/1359bb867554501d12454af10433b2f4333d30e8c1ee57f680774a5daa89b7e1.jpg)

The bums lost!  The bums will always lose!

You heard about that too.

I think it sucks it's a great way to censor without appearing to, only the channels in line with the mainstream media can profit.

Yeah I almost treat Youtube like TV.  I'm not convinced that it's an intentional attack by the MSM though.  I'm strongly considering actually paying for Youtube Red just to support these guys though.

Edit:  Youtubers other than Jeranism.

Edit:  Well maybe Jeranism if he made videos worth watching.  I like good conspiracy videos.  The documentary of the moon landing being fake was really entertaining.  Ditto Ancient Aliens on the History Channel.  Even though half the time I end up throwing my shoes at the tv out of rage.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 11, 2017, 04:55:31 PM
.....and that I think sums up flat earthers quite nicely...truth and facts be dammed....belief is far more important, along with thick headed ignorance.

What bull! You believe in a globe Earth flying through space, and when you are really questioned about its workings, this is your answer...

My understanding as regards to the workings of the universe is.....because that's the way it is



Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 11, 2017, 05:01:56 PM


Youtube's change of ad policy is really wrecking you isn't it? 

Perhaps it's time to consider an exciting career in budding field of coal mining.

My advice to you is to do what your parents did.  Get a job sir.

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/13/1359bb867554501d12454af10433b2f4333d30e8c1ee57f680774a5daa89b7e1.jpg)

The bums lost!  The bums will always lose!

You heard about that too.

I think it sucks it's a great way to censor without appearing to, only the channels in line with the mainstream media can profit.

Yeah I almost treat Youtube like TV.  I'm not convinced that it's an intentional attack by the MSM though.  I'm strongly considering actually paying for Youtube Red just to support these guys though.

Edit:  Youtubers other than Jeranism.

Edit:  Well maybe Jeranism if he made videos worth watching.  I like good conspiracy videos.  The documentary of the moon landing being fake was really entertaining.  Ditto Ancient Aliens on the History Channel.  Even though half the time I end up throwing my shoes at the tv out of rage.

Did you know how it came about?

It was those stupid edgy Nazi trolls, advertisers caught on that their products were being advertised on questionable videos and pulled their ads.

I guess its fair, stupid NeoNazi's they ruined the internet.

Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: hoppy on April 11, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
Hi Jeranism, thanks for your good work on your channel. I check in there from time to time. After spending so much time on it seems the only explanation for these roundies being here for years with thousands of posts all day and all night, is for molding opinion.
 It is frustrating to come here as at flat noob. Anytime of the day or night someone is here to dissuade someone from questioning the shape of the earth. Ridicule, insults and mainstream science are thrown in their face constantly. These shills show up with their superior and condescending attitudes to show how smart they are.
 If I were a rounder, I would check this site and leave after a little while. I wouldn't waste time on a "stupid website".
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: IonSpen on April 11, 2017, 08:05:53 PM
Hi Jeranism, thanks for your good work on your channel. I check in there from time to time. After spending so much time on it seems the only explanation for these roundies being here for years with thousands of posts all day and all night, is for molding opinion.
 It is frustrating to come here as at flat noob. Anytime of the day or night someone is here to dissuade someone from questioning the shape of the earth. Ridicule, insults and mainstream science are thrown in their face constantly. These shills show up with their superior and condescending attitudes to show how smart they are.
 If I were a rounder, I would check this site and leave after a little while. I wouldn't waste time on a "stupid website".
Are you being sarcastic, facetious, or what? Not all so called "rounders" think this is a "stupid website". I for one have learned an unimaginable amount. I've met some very interesting people. Besides, where else could find an İntikam?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 11, 2017, 08:11:24 PM
Although I was called a flat earther like three times today.

Turns out the earth really is flat.

I wonder why, you two faced shill.

Watch the personal attacks.

No, I am sick of deception and will call out inane stupidity when I see it.
Once you realize who you were talking to, you might rethink your decision. In which case I really hope you don't.

I stand up for what I believe in, no matter what.
That's good to stand up for what you believe, but you don't need to be a douche bag about it.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 11, 2017, 09:18:21 PM
Well, I took a close look at my life.

Seems fine.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Alpha2Omega on April 11, 2017, 09:34:12 PM
I'm good. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 11, 2017, 10:39:31 PM
Hi Jeranism, thanks for your good work on your channel. I check in there from time to time. After spending so much time on it seems the only explanation for these roundies being here for years with thousands of posts all day and all night, is for molding opinion.
 It is frustrating to come here as at flat noob. Anytime of the day or night someone is here to dissuade someone from questioning the shape of the earth. Ridicule, insults and mainstream science are thrown in their face constantly. These shills show up with their superior and condescending attitudes to show how smart they are.
 If I were a rounder, I would check this site and leave after a little while. I wouldn't waste time on a "stupid website".
Look at the frenzied attacks on Jeranism.
This is when you know he's hitting home.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 11, 2017, 10:41:41 PM
Well, I took a close look at my life.

Seems fine.
It's bound to be fine, for you. You live in a sci-fi bubble where you believe it's all real.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Twerp on April 11, 2017, 11:05:43 PM
Whether or not jeranism is hitting home, he makes awful, awful videos. Just in case you think I'm saying that because they're FE, let me assure there are GE videos that are also awful.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 11, 2017, 11:09:24 PM
Well, I took a close look at my life.

Seems fine.
It's bound to be fine, for you. You live in a sci-fi bubble where you believe it's all real.

You need to change to side B, this one's getting worn out. Maybe nip down to the random word salad store and look in the bargain bins for some new ones.

Meanwhile I have a good job, nice house, good kids and grandkids, don't need anyone's permission to do anything and I can go out into the real world and understand what's going on. When I am weighed in the balance it will be someone higher who decides whether or not I am found wanting, not you or the OP.

Judge not, lest ye yourselves be judged.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 11, 2017, 11:14:12 PM
Whether or not jeranism is hitting home, he makes awful, awful videos. Just in case you think I'm saying that because they're FE, let me assure there are GE videos that are also awful.
Yeah you're just saying that.
His videos are far from awful to those with a thinking brain but I can see how they would be for people who have their own heads shoved up their own mainstream indoctrinated arses.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Twerp on April 11, 2017, 11:17:06 PM
Whether or not jeranism is hitting home, he makes awful, awful videos. Just in case you think I'm saying that because they're FE, let me assure there are GE videos that are also awful.
Yeah you're just saying that.
His videos are far from awful to those with a thinking brain but I can see how they would be for people who have their own heads shoved up their own mainstream indoctrinated arses.

I'm surprised you think his videos are good.

I could probably find quotes to back up my statement regarding GE videos.

Accusing me of having my head up my arse says more about you than it does about me.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 11, 2017, 11:26:35 PM
You need to change to side B, this one's getting worn out. Maybe nip down to the random word salad store and look in the bargain bins for some new ones.
I think I'm quite happy to stick to this side. It feels comfortable enough to be getting on with.


Meanwhile I have a good job, nice house, good kids and grandkids, don't need anyone's permission to do anything and I can go out into the real world and understand what's going on.
You have nothing to prove to me but here you are trying to prove something to me.
You can't expect to act like an arsehole and not receive a little bit back from time to time. I know it hurts you and I know you'll deny it hurts you...but this is just what you'll have to deal with until you play a fair game.
You reap what you sow.  ;)


When I am weighed in the balance it will be someone higher who decides whether or not I am found wanting, not you or the OP.
Maybe so, You could well be right on that. I don't really have an answer to whether that will turn out for you, or not. That's for your own mind to contemplate.
But seeing as your mind appears to be doing just that, then I'd also suggest that you think back to how much of a total and utter arrogant piece of shit arsehole you've been to others with your global nonsense and attacks on those that think alternately to what you arseholes push.

Now, if you've noticed any of my posts, you will have noticed that I'm not normally like this.
I'll argue my case with a bit of tit for tat but I won't generally go too far and mainly I just accept the crap coming my way.
Sometimes I feel the need to just let the odd prick know what a prick they've been, or still are.
It doesn't matter of they react with answers like "I'm not bothered" or " I have a good living, so I don't care" or any other clap trap.
Act like a prick and you will be treated like one.
Play a fair game and you will receive one back.


Judge not, lest ye yourselves be judged.
Take a leaf out of your own book you utter bell end.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 11, 2017, 11:28:49 PM
Whether or not jeranism is hitting home, he makes awful, awful videos. Just in case you think I'm saying that because they're FE, let me assure there are GE videos that are also awful.
Yeah you're just saying that.
His videos are far from awful to those with a thinking brain but I can see how they would be for people who have their own heads shoved up their own mainstream indoctrinated arses.

I'm surprised you think his videos are good.

I could probably find quotes to back up my statement regarding GE videos.

Accusing me of having my head up my arse says more about you than it does about me.
I just happen to think you're a prick. I think all arseholes like you are worthless.
You come here to try the ridicule stakes with the odd little bit of trying to fit in humour.
Just another piece of crap that stands with mass opinion without knowing why.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Twerp on April 11, 2017, 11:32:07 PM
Whether or not jeranism is hitting home, he makes awful, awful videos. Just in case you think I'm saying that because they're FE, let me assure there are GE videos that are also awful.
Yeah you're just saying that.
His videos are far from awful to those with a thinking brain but I can see how they would be for people who have their own heads shoved up their own mainstream indoctrinated arses.

I'm surprised you think his videos are good.

I could probably find quotes to back up my statement regarding GE videos.

Accusing me of having my head up my arse says more about you than it does about me.
I just happen to think you're a prick. I think all arseholes like you are worthless.
You come here to try the ridicule stakes with the odd little bit of trying to fit in humour.
Just another piece of crap that stands with mass opinion without knowing why.
You're still saying more about yourself than you are about me.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Crouton on April 11, 2017, 11:36:13 PM
Whether or not jeranism is hitting home, he makes awful, awful videos. Just in case you think I'm saying that because they're FE, let me assure there are GE videos that are also awful.
Yeah you're just saying that.
His videos are far from awful to those with a thinking brain but I can see how they would be for people who have their own heads shoved up their own mainstream indoctrinated arses.

Please note that I don't misuse the literally.  If I use it in a story then it's important.

Let me put it this way.  Have you ever seen the movie "the room"? not the newer movie, the older one with Tommy Wissau.  The Room is called the citizen Kain of bad movies. Jeranism's videos are like if a Tommy Wissau movie could emit a literal stench that you can smell on the other side of the internet. 

Don't believe me?  Well I detected the last several times Jeranism was online.  How could I do that if I"m not tracking his foul stench.

Aside from all of that. 

Jeranism, I would love to offer some destructive feedback to elevate your content to the level where it's not tylenol pm in youtube form.  Or failing that we could market your content to anasthesia resistance patients, dentists. 

Yours in Christ,
Charlemagne Rutonius Maximumx Meridius.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Lonegranger on April 12, 2017, 01:04:49 AM
.....and that I think sums up flat earthers quite nicely...truth and facts be dammed....belief is far more important, along with thick headed ignorance.

What bull! You believe in a globe Earth flying through space, and when you are really questioned about its workings, this is your answer...

My understanding as regards to the workings of the universe is.....because that's the way it is

You have access to the WWW as much as I have go and look. I was paraphrasing a well known American Cosmologist.
Your keep going on about the earth whizzing through space......the fact that you appear to unable or reluctant to grasp this in no way affects the reality of the situation.

The evidence for a spherical world existing as part of an expanding universe is irrefutable.
In contrast there is no evidence whatsoever for the earth being flat bordered by an ice wall and topped off by a dome.

I think the limiting factor in all this appears to be you inability to grasp the reality of the world as it is. In turn this causes you to seek a simpler, albeit made up, version that better suits your limited mental capacity.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 12, 2017, 01:07:18 AM
He's fifteen, what's your excuse?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Lonegranger on April 12, 2017, 01:09:00 AM
He's fifteen, what's your excuse?

I have no excuse...what's yours?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 12, 2017, 02:23:39 AM
I just happen to think you're a prick. I think all arseholes like you are worthless.
Wow, you accuse others of "frenzied attacks" all the time, yet all you can do is rant and insult these days. You can't even decide which bit of the anatomy he is.

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You come here to try the ridicule stakes with the odd little bit of trying to fit in humour.
Just another piece of crap that stands with mass opinion without knowing why.
scepti, this is a humorous website, where people come shoot the breeze, debate a bit, check out the latest insane theories/trolls and have a bit of a giggle.

Lighten up and get your sense of humour back - you sound bitter and twisted. 
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 12, 2017, 02:36:13 AM
He's fifteen, what's your excuse?

I have no excuse...what's yours?

I don't talk to people like you do.

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It may be that yonder beggar is a King. A King may choose his garment as he will: there is no certain test: but a beggar cannot hide his poverty. Beware therefore! Love all, lest perchance is a King concealed!
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JerkFace on April 12, 2017, 03:53:33 AM
I just happen to think you're a prick. I think all arseholes like you are worthless.
Wow, you accuse others of "frenzied attacks" all the time, yet all you can do is rant and insult these days. You can't even decide which bit of the anatomy he is.

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You come here to try the ridicule stakes with the odd little bit of trying to fit in humour.
Just another piece of crap that stands with mass opinion without knowing why.
scepti, this is a humorous website, where people come shoot the breeze, debate a bit, check out the latest insane theories/trolls and have a bit of a giggle.

Lighten up and get your sense of humour back - you sound bitter and twisted.

LOL

There's no difference between completely crazy and a good parody of completely crazy.

Some of the parodies around here are in fact so good I wonder if ...

Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 12, 2017, 05:28:43 AM
You disgust me Rayzor.

I'm not quite sure how you look in a mirror but that is your business alone.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 12, 2017, 05:36:12 AM
You disgust me Rayzor.

I'm not quite sure how you look in a mirror but that is your business alone.
What's goosed your goat?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 12, 2017, 06:21:12 AM
You need to change to side B, this one's getting worn out. Maybe nip down to the random word salad store and look in the bargain bins for some new ones.
I think I'm quite happy to stick to this side. It feels comfortable enough to be getting on with.
Yes, I'm sure that it's much more comfortable to stick with the side that doesn't feel the need to bother with something so trivial as testable, working models.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JerkFace on April 12, 2017, 07:37:32 AM
You disgust me Rayzor.

I'm not quite sure how you look in a mirror but that is your business alone.
What's goosed your goat?

He's still getting used to the idea that some of the people here are actually completely nuts.  Either that or he is afraid to confess to his innermost "flat earther" yearnings.   

Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 12, 2017, 07:54:05 AM
You need to change to side B, this one's getting worn out. Maybe nip down to the random word salad store and look in the bargain bins for some new ones.
I think I'm quite happy to stick to this side. It feels comfortable enough to be getting on with.
Yes, I'm sure that it's much more comfortable to stick with the side that doesn't feel the need to bother with something so trivial as testable, working models.
Tell me about these testable working models.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 12, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
You need to change to side B, this one's getting worn out. Maybe nip down to the random word salad store and look in the bargain bins for some new ones.
I think I'm quite happy to stick to this side. It feels comfortable enough to be getting on with.
Yes, I'm sure that it's much more comfortable to stick with the side that doesn't feel the need to bother with something so trivial as testable, working models.
Tell me about these testable working models.
Why?  Are you willing to test any of them?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Callzter on April 12, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
Jeran you make a fair point about people being so defensive of the round earth helicocentric model when they should just ignore flat earthers but the problem is is that pseudoscience and the flat earth society are growing at a scary fast rate so we need to push back against this agenda.

The more flat earth YouTube channels that pop up the more skeptic channels pop up to COUNTERACT the flat earthers. We can't let trogolodytes like you rule over the internet with denial of things that you don't understand. There are too many times to count where flatwits will say that something doesn't exist because they simply don't understand it.

Us "roundies" (for lack of a better term) are just responding to YOUR deliberate ignorance and lack of research and knowledge. We're not scared of losing our "sci-fi spaceships" or "pretty spinning ball"... we're just responding to your lack of knowledge on the subject.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 12, 2017, 09:34:25 PM
You disgust me Rayzor.

I'm not quite sure how you look in a mirror but that is your business alone.
What's goosed your goat?

He's still getting used to the idea that some of the people here are actually completely nuts.  Either that or he is afraid to confess to his innermost "flat earther" yearnings.   

I am sorry I schooled you a few times. Call me whatever you like to make it easier to accept. It doesn't bother me at all.

@Jimmy, I just really don't like his attitude. He feels intellectually superior to nearly everyone here and he seems to enjoy calling others dumb or crazy, which I find disturbing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3169359/How-spot-serial-killer-Criminologists-reveal-five-key-traits-common-notorious-murderers.html

It's the equivalent of a MMA fighter going around beating everyone up because they think they can.

Look what happened to Ronda Rousy, pride before a fall, there is always someone out there smarter, faster or stronger than you.

I used to pick on the "bullies" in highschool also, I just don't like seeing people treated the way Rayzor feels he is entitled to treat them.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 12, 2017, 09:37:54 PM
Jeran you make a fair point about people being so defensive of the round earth helicocentric model when they should just ignore flat earthers but the problem is is that pseudoscience and the flat earth society are growing at a scary fast rate so we need to push back against this agenda.

The more flat earth YouTube channels that pop up the more skeptic channels pop up to COUNTERACT the flat earthers. We can't let trogolodytes like you rule over the internet with denial of things that you don't understand. There are too many times to count where flatwits will say that something doesn't exist because they simply don't understand it.

Us "roundies" (for lack of a better term) are just responding to YOUR deliberate ignorance and lack of research and knowledge. We're not scared of losing our "sci-fi spaceships" or "pretty spinning ball"... we're just responding to your lack of knowledge on the subject.

Bravo sir, exactly this. Ignorance needs to be countered and stupidity pointed out so that no-one can claim they weren't told when the truth comes out. You can't say "I told you so" if you haven't.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JerkFace on April 12, 2017, 10:11:05 PM
You disgust me Rayzor.

I'm not quite sure how you look in a mirror but that is your business alone.
What's goosed your goat?

He's still getting used to the idea that some of the people here are actually completely nuts.  Either that or he is afraid to confess to his innermost "flat earther" yearnings.   

I am sorry I schooled you a few times. Call me whatever you like to make it easier to accept. It doesn't bother me at all.

@Jimmy, I just really don't like his attitude. He feels intellectually superior to nearly everyone here and he seems to enjoy calling others dumb or crazy, which I find disturbing.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3169359/How-spot-serial-killer-Criminologists-reveal-five-key-traits-common-notorious-murderers.html

It's the equivalent of a MMA fighter going around beating everyone up because they think they can.

Look what happened to Ronda Rousy, pride before a fall, there is always someone out there smarter, faster or stronger than you.

I used to pick on the "bullies" in highschool also, I just don't like seeing people treated the way Rayzor feels he is entitled to treat them.

Umm...  you seem to not realise that thinking the earth is flat is almost the very definition of crazy.   
Incidentally,  I've been being nice to you for a while now,  so stop following me around like a lost little puppy or I'll start responding in kind,  and you know what happened the last time I did that.


I think the big monkey just  took the words from my mouth.

Bravo sir, exactly this. Ignorance needs to be countered and stupidity pointed out so that no-one can claim they weren't told when the truth comes out. You can't say "I told you so" if you haven't.

Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 12, 2017, 10:39:17 PM
you know what happened the last time I did that.

I got pissed off with you and you chickened out of meeting up for a beer?

Offer is always open.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: rabinoz on April 12, 2017, 11:03:22 PM
Who's this Jeranism character?
Seems pretty popular on YouTube these days. Just browsing I came across these where seems get a bit of attention!
One Giant Lie For Mankind - Jeranism Exposed, I QUIT FLAT EARTH (http://)
Jeranism: Debunking His "Lens Correction" On Curvature of Earth Footage, The Sad Punk, (http://)
Jeranism Totally bullshit #1, BzTruetalk, (http://)
The ISS doesn't Exist? Why Flat Earther, Jeranism is a Liar!!!!! - Avatar Contest, Guyver 9632. (http://)

Jeranism (my spell checker thinks it should be :D Geranium :D) sure seems to attract attention. I wonder why?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: sceptimatic on April 12, 2017, 11:58:55 PM

Tell me about these testable working models.
Quote
Why?  Are you willing to test any of them?
Tell me about these testable working models or can't you do it?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 13, 2017, 03:24:18 AM

@Jimmy, I just really don't like his attitude. He feels intellectually superior to nearly everyone here and he seems to enjoy calling others dumb or crazy, which I find disturbing.
Oh lighten up, snowflake.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3169359/How-spot-serial-killer-Criminologists-reveal-five-key-traits-common-notorious-murderers.html
Don't be ludicrous.

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It's the equivalent of a MMA fighter going around beating everyone up because they think they can.
It really isn't.  This is a debate forum where we are all here voluntarily.   It's the equivalent of an MMA fighter having cage fights with other fighters.  Sounds like you don't like the fact he choked you out....
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 13, 2017, 03:26:30 AM
In the tech and alt thread?

Have a go princess.

Edit.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1896242#msg1896242
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Alpha2Omega on April 13, 2017, 08:26:04 AM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave. 
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 13, 2017, 08:31:57 AM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave.
He's probably done it on a bunch of forums to try and keep his traffic up.  That, and he avoids debate, so as not to get his arse handed to him.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 13, 2017, 09:13:48 AM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave.
He's probably done it on a bunch of forums to try and keep his traffic up.  That, and he avoids debate, so as not to get his arse handed to him.

Lol and here you shills are, 3 pages later, talking about things that have absoultely nothing to do with the thread topic, and are just bashing the threads poster. Who got their ass handed to them? Survey says the shills.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: coffeecrisp on April 13, 2017, 10:26:47 AM
I rarely come by these parts as it is mostly a collection of little boys who use so-called science, Wikipedia and consensus belief as fact

There are many sources that I use and this is also something that effects me because depending on where on the planet I am on, the centrepedal force comes into play, so we have to recalibrate sensitive balances. I don’t know how you explain that in the flat earth model. Give it a shot if you have something.

I also don’t see the point in thinking that the entire world of scientists are lying to you but that is a choice you make for yourself if you don’t have the tools to verify yourself. Obviously, the 95% of the population don’t work in any scientific field and they have to trust scientists, that they will behave as professionals.

I don’t have 100-200 posts. I’m quite new here.

Why am I here? I value knowledge (science) and I want a more science literate population rather than a hedonistic population that just wants to watch comedians and Hollywood artists.
I don’t see the point of calling people retards but I have to question the intelligence of some of you guys. I have only began discussing such issues recently. One guy says that rockets can’t burn in vacuum. I showed him research papers and he said they are fake. So, if you say that rockets can’t burn, you base this on what? The flat earther had no answer.

Another case was : the  flat earther tells me there is a wall of ice surrounding the planet and this prevents the oceans from falling out. You base this on what? Any photos? The answer is always no, you don’t have any evidence. This is a popular meme that is getting spread around between you guys.

A few of you seem to be religious and always quote the bible. What’s up with that? You don’t question the bible? How come?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Crouton on April 13, 2017, 11:32:38 AM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave.
He's probably done it on a bunch of forums to try and keep his traffic up.  That, and he avoids debate, so as not to get his arse handed to him.

Exactly. I'm cool with nearly every flat earther here. They're here to actually discuss something. Jeranism always has the worst intentions when he posts. I put him below Legba.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 13, 2017, 04:32:27 PM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave.
He's probably done it on a bunch of forums to try and keep his traffic up.  That, and he avoids debate, so as not to get his arse handed to him.

Cough, cough.

Sorry had something in my throat.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 13, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3169359/How-spot-serial-killer-Criminologists-reveal-five-key-traits-common-notorious-murderers.html
Don't be ludicrous.

Body count pdf (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ippnw.de/commonFiles/pdfs/Frieden/Body_Count_first_international_edition_2015_final.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjDvaSp2qLTAhVrjVQKHbIiB9IQFggvMAc&usg=AFQjCNEk_c4rZLM7j7lS7z5hwzzfa1NRrA&sig2=KZwzCLTqvHw3aylHz22-dg)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932014)

Who is being ludicrous?

I am waiting for a debate. I'll tell you what I told Rayzor, if you want to say "This is what I believe, I can't justify why I believe it and I am too scared to debate the issue." That's just fine with me. Just be honest with yourself and understand your beliefs are based on emotion and not logic and facts.

You have absolutely no right to say Jeranism is "scared to debate" glass houses amirite?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1896242#msg1896242

Edit.

Or just do a Rayzor and call everone who would ever even think of considering entertaining the possibility of questioning their TV a "crazy loony conspiracy theorist nutter." It's literally the best the official story has.

>muh tv.

Put your money where your mouth is.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: rabinoz on April 14, 2017, 01:34:25 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3169359/How-spot-serial-killer-Criminologists-reveal-five-key-traits-common-notorious-murderers.html
Don't be ludicrous.

Body count pdf (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ippnw.de/commonFiles/pdfs/Frieden/Body_Count_first_international_edition_2015_final.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjDvaSp2qLTAhVrjVQKHbIiB9IQFggvMAc&usg=AFQjCNEk_c4rZLM7j7lS7z5hwzzfa1NRrA&sig2=KZwzCLTqvHw3aylHz22-dg)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932014)

Who is being ludicrous?

I am waiting for a debate. I'll tell you what I told Rayzor, if you want to say "This is what I believe, I can't justify why I believe it and I am too scared to debate the issue." That's just fine with me. Just be honest with yourself and understand your beliefs are based on emotion and not logic and facts.

You have absolutely no right to say Jeranism is "scared to debate" glass houses amirite?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1896242#msg1896242

Edit.

Or just do a Rayzor and call everone who would ever even think of considering entertaining the possibility of questioning their TV a "crazy loony conspiracy theorist nutter." It's literally the best the official story has.

>muh tv.

Put your money where your mouth is.
Ever heard of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder? Just askin'
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 14, 2017, 02:14:20 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3169359/How-spot-serial-killer-Criminologists-reveal-five-key-traits-common-notorious-murderers.html
Don't be ludicrous.

Body count pdf (https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.ippnw.de/commonFiles/pdfs/Frieden/Body_Count_first_international_edition_2015_final.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwjDvaSp2qLTAhVrjVQKHbIiB9IQFggvMAc&usg=AFQjCNEk_c4rZLM7j7lS7z5hwzzfa1NRrA&sig2=KZwzCLTqvHw3aylHz22-dg)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_in_the_war_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%932014)

Who is being ludicrous?
You.  Now you are just doubling down.


Quote
You have absolutely no right to say Jeranism is "scared to debate" glass houses amirite?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1896242#msg1896242
I've no interest in debating your 9/11 bullshit.  This is a flat earth forum, take it somewhere else.  I've debated that crap on conspiracy forums before, and have little interest in doing it again.

Seriously, it doesn't look like it's doing you much good - just step away.


Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 16, 2017, 11:13:11 PM
It's not bullshit if no one can debunk it.

Now keep it o/t please, you can make an easy $500 if you are confident.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Yashas on April 16, 2017, 11:17:06 PM
Most of the globalists that come here are far from intellectuals. They're basically parrots.
Copy and paste monsters that possess little free thought.

There's a small percentage of genuine global believers that are looking for the truth, I believe but most are a little bit too apprehensive to actually dare to delve too far in, in case they are set upon by the mass of globalists just waiting to attack, plus more that weirdly join the forum in any such event.
It's one reason why I do not trust this site at all. Too many people playing too many games as some kind of experiment, I think. Or something.

It might be just my distrusting nature but I doubt it.
Oh, the irony.

Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 17, 2017, 03:15:14 AM
Now keep it o/t please, you can make an easy $500 if you are confident.
Being confident will make me $500?  How does that work?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 17, 2017, 03:18:16 AM
5k now, no pressure.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69306.msg1897268#msg1897268

I don't wanna spam up general, I also don't have a problem with you, you're certainly funny and seem like a decent guy.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 19, 2017, 09:38:43 AM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave.
He's probably done it on a bunch of forums to try and keep his traffic up.  That, and he avoids debate, so as not to get his arse handed to him.

Lol and here you shills are, 3 pages later, talking about things that have absoultely nothing to do with the thread topic, and are just bashing the threads poster. Who got their ass handed to them? Survey says the shills.

Whats the topic here again?

Was it about 9/11 and money?

Or about shills and their deception techniques.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 19, 2017, 09:59:50 AM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave.
He's probably done it on a bunch of forums to try and keep his traffic up.  That, and he avoids debate, so as not to get his arse handed to him.

Lol and here you shills are, 3 pages later, talking about things that have absoultely nothing to do with the thread topic, and are just bashing the threads poster. Who got their ass handed to them? Survey says the shills.

Whats the topic here again?

Was it about 9/11 and money?

Or about shills and their deception techniques.

I believe the topic was just a childish rant about people who disagree with the topic starter. The OP does not mention shills, that's your obsession.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 19, 2017, 10:05:02 AM
jeranism hasn't been here since page 1 of the now 3-page thread he started. He did say "I like to get in and get out" in his second post, in what's also called "seagull posting" - fly in, drop some crap, leave.
He's probably done it on a bunch of forums to try and keep his traffic up.  That, and he avoids debate, so as not to get his arse handed to him.

Lol and here you shills are, 3 pages later, talking about things that have absoultely nothing to do with the thread topic, and are just bashing the threads poster. Who got their ass handed to them? Survey says the shills.

Whats the topic here again?

Was it about 9/11 and money?

Or about shills and their deception techniques.
No, the topic was about intelligent RE'ers with high post counts constantly beating down stupid FE'ers.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 19, 2017, 10:06:12 AM
This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence.

He doesnt say "shill" but he describes them perfectly.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 19, 2017, 10:33:09 AM
This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence.

He doesnt say "shill" but he describes them perfectly.

Just swap out 'Globe' for 'Flat Earth' then check your post count.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 19, 2017, 10:35:50 AM
This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence.

He doesnt say "shill" but he describes them perfectly.

Just swap out 'Globe' for 'Flat Earth' then check your post count.

Whats the name of this website again?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on April 19, 2017, 11:44:52 AM
Whats the name of this website again?
shillsrus.com
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 27, 2017, 08:01:30 AM
Haha funny because theres truth in it.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 28, 2017, 05:06:59 PM
Ask yourself, why in the world you would spend your time on a forum for flat-tards as you call them? What could possibly be the motivation?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 28, 2017, 05:48:22 PM
Ask yourself, why in the world you would spend your time on a forum for flat-tards as you call them? What could possibly be the motivation?
Maybe some people are concerned about the war being waged against science.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 28, 2017, 05:55:14 PM
When you say war on science do you mean man made climate change or science like the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

I'm not saying man made climate change isn't real, We should absolutely focus on clean renewable energy sources. I do think people should be careful of what we are told are "facts" these days, I think this part of this FE thing is a reaction to people realising we are very often not told the whole truth about situations.

I can definitely understand of the sentiment of not believing everything we are told.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 28, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
When you say war on science do you mean man made climate change or science like the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
I think that climate change denial was the first visible symptom, but other once fringe movements, like anti-vaccination and fluoride in the drinking water, seem to be gaining a disturbing amount of traction over the years.  If FET gains similar traction, then I'm afraid that might be a sign that we are on an irreversible course to Idiocracy.

I can definitely understand of the sentiment of not believing everything we are told.
It's one thing to question what you're told.  Questioning is good and proper.  Questioning is how we learn and catch mistakes.

However, it's quite another to dismiss out of hand everything that disagrees with your pet theory.  Some go so far as to deny fundamental principles of physics principles that are quite clearly explained and demonstrated in high school physics lab experiments in favor of ludicrous alternatives that their advocates steadfastly refuse to provide any experimental evidence to support.

Who knows where it started.  Maybe it's just a case of the age old "jocks vs nerds" rivalry getting taken to a disturbing new level.  Or, maybe it's the inevitable backlash from the fairly recent "rock star scientist" phenomenon.  It might even be industry resenting the scientists that once helped them make big money by creating a disposable who are now telling their corporate overlords that the disposable economy is no longer viable.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 28, 2017, 07:40:26 PM
Why is flouride in our drinking water when we can just brush our teeth with it and spit it out?

I haven't heard a great explanation yet.

Please don't take this as me implying reptillians are using flouride to subjugate the human race, I really don't think this is the case.

It just strikes me as odd that it's still in our water supply.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/studies-linking-fluoride-in-water-to-health-issues-prompt-australian-review-20150224-13nr33.html
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 28, 2017, 07:44:07 PM
However, it's quite another to dismiss out of hand everything that disagrees with your pet theory.  Some go so far as to deny fundamental principles of physics principles that are quite clearly explained and demonstrated in high school physics lab experiments in favor of ludicrous alternatives that their advocates steadfastly refuse to provide any experimental evidence to support.

You have absolutely no idea how strongly I agree with you here.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 28, 2017, 07:50:14 PM
...fringe movements, like anti-vaccination and fluoride in the drinking water, seem to be gaining a disturbing amount of traction over the years.  If FET gains similar traction, then I'm afraid that might be a sign that we are on an irreversible course to Idiocracy.

Careful disputenone... You might be on the path to irreversible idiocracy...
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 29, 2017, 12:11:34 AM
Why is flouride in our drinking water when we can just brush our teeth with it and spit it out?

I haven't heard a great explanation yet.

Because not everyone cleans their teeth properly, but everyone drinks water.

Natural flouride and dental health was explored in the early 20th century:

https://www.nidcr.nih.gov/OralHealth/Topics/Fluoride/TheStoryofFluoridation.htm

Not everywhere adds flouride to water.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: disputeone on April 29, 2017, 01:11:01 AM
I brush my teeth twice a day.

Imo, too bad for the people too lazy to brush their teeth, I would prefer cleaner water.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Crouton on April 29, 2017, 11:04:20 AM
I brush my teeth twice a day.

Imo, too bad for the people too lazy to brush their teeth, I would prefer cleaner water.

As far as I know it's a project that helps disadvantaged children with parents that are negligent about oral care. It's not really aimed at adults so much.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Crouton on April 29, 2017, 11:20:15 AM
http://ilikemyteeth.org/fluoridation/

Okay I was off about I being aimed at kids. It helps pretty much everyone.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Space Cowgirl on April 29, 2017, 01:25:02 PM
When I was a kid I lived in a city with fluoride in the water, I had zero cavities. Then when I was about 7 or 8 I moved to BFE and started drinking well water, had my first cavities within a year.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: dutchy on April 29, 2017, 02:37:41 PM
Maybe some people are concerned about the war being waged against science.
I am concerned about scientific research, because there is a lot left wanting.
In the Netherlands Diederik Stapel was caught as one of the biggest frauds in the field of psychology.

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/11/final-report-stapel-affair-points-bigger-problems-social-psychology (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/11/final-report-stapel-affair-points-bigger-problems-social-psychology)
The blame goes far beyond Diederik Stapel and the three Dutch universities where he worked as a social psychologist. In their exhaustive final report about the fraud affair that rocked social psychology last year, three investigative panels today collectively find fault with the field itself. They paint an image of a "sloppy" research culture in which some scientists don't understand the essentials of statistics, journal-selected article reviewers encourage researchers to leave unwelcome data out of their papers, and even the most prestigious journals print results that are obviously too good to be true.

The commissions—one for each of the universities where Stapel has worked—concluded that "from the bottom to the top there was a general neglect of fundamental scientific standards and methodological requirements." That climate made it possible for Stapel's fraud to go undetected for many years, the report says.

Entitled Flawed science: The fraudulent research practices of social psychologist Diederik Stapel, the report again casts an unflattering light on social psychology, which has seen several other investigators come under scrutiny since Stapel was fired from his post at Tilburg University in September 2011. Two months ago, psychologist and Nobel laureate Daniel Kahneman urged researchers doing so-called priming studies—an important area in social psychology where Stapel was also active—to clean up their act, declaring in an open letter that "your field is now the poster child for doubts about the integrity of psychological research."

Is our concern not valid about the standards of overall indepedent research ?

Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 29, 2017, 03:02:03 PM
Maybe some people are concerned about the war being waged against science.
I am concerned about scientific research, because there is a lot left wanting.
In the Netherlands Diederik Stapel was caught as one of the biggest frauds in the field of psychology.

*snip*

Is our concern not valid about the standards of overall indepedent research ?
Fields in social sciences like psychology are often referred to as "soft sciences" and often have different methodologies than the "hard sciences" like physics.  Of course research in all of the different sciences should have strict protocols, but the failure of one branch of science to adequately police itself does not necessarily indicate a problem with all scientific research.

Having said that, what sort of standards do you suppose FE "scientists" use to ensure that their research and conclusions are honest and credible?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: dutchy on April 29, 2017, 03:15:22 PM
Having said that, what sort of standards do you suppose FE "scientists" use to ensure that their research and conclusions are honest and credible?
Time will tell and some ''flatearth'' claims don't pass any test whatsoever, because they are solely based on wishfull thinking.

But the globe earth has many flaws too, which i am still trying to figure out.
Do gunmen need to take the coriolis effect into account over certain distances ? The jury is still out when asking and reading about it. Some claim they do others claim they never did or needed it.
And the other day (docu) i heard about a long distance canon from the US military that could reach a target 100km away. Now that needs some coriolis math to hit a specific target for sure.....


And there is visuality beyond the curtvature like this :
(http://)
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 29, 2017, 03:33:53 PM
And there is visuality beyond the curtvature like this :
(http://)
Have you ever wondered why most of these "over the horizon" observations are done over large bodies of water? 

Of course there's the obvious benefit of having a long, uninterrupted stretch of flatness.  However, one thing that might not be so obvious, and is rarely (if ever) mentioned by FE'ers is the temperature differences between the water and the air.  Under various conditions, the air near the surface of the water can experience any number of temperature gradations and/or inversions leading to various refractive phenomena that can easily explain such over the horizon observations.  For this reason, I generally consider such observations to be inconclusive.

Here is a web page that describes a variety of these phenomena:
http://www.weatherscapes.com/gallery.php?cat=optics&subcat=refraction&expand=refraction
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: dutchy on April 30, 2017, 01:40:54 AM
For this reason, I generally consider such observations to be inconclusive.
People show clear evidence of buildings that should have been hundreds of feet below the curvature.
Curvature and refraction was taken into account according to the math of our current globe model and of course it is still not good enough for globers.
Did you watch ? It is what reality looks like, contrary to the moon passing the earth in deep space.
I really am puzzled to the extremes that the former which my eyes tell me presents reality is dismissed by globers with easy as a mirage or distorted refraction of some kind of fata morgana, but extremely fake looking NASA CGI is what reality looks like.

What has become of our natural abilities to discern reality from fiction ? Wow this feels weird.........
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on April 30, 2017, 09:08:06 AM
For this reason, I generally consider such observations to be inconclusive.
People show clear evidence of buildings that should have been hundreds of feet below the curvature.
Curvature and refraction was taken into account according to the math of our current globe model and of course it is still not good enough for globers.
??? Huh?  Do you even know what environmental conditions need to be considered in order to account for atmospheric refraction?

Did you watch ? It is what reality looks like, contrary to the moon passing the earth in deep space.
Yes, I watched it and the heat shimmers at the waterline suggest that conditions could favorable for atmospheric refraction.

Try performing that same observation under a variety of weather conditions and at different times of day, then tell me how consistently you could see the skyline.

I have personally gone to Old Fort Niagara park, where similar views of Toronto are supposed to be possible, but I was unable to see any trace of the skyline, even with a 500mm mirror lens and a 3x teleconverter on my 35mm camera.  That's why I tend to consider those types of observations to be inconclusive.

I really am puzzled to the extremes that the former which my eyes tell me presents reality is dismissed by globers with easy as a mirage or distorted refraction of some kind of fata morgana, but extremely fake looking NASA CGI is what reality looks like.
What should an illuminated far side of the moon transiting the earth supposed to look like from a million miles away?

What has become of our natural abilities to discern reality from fiction ? Wow this feels weird.........
What's so weird about technology giving us the ability to experience things that have never before been a part of our normal, everyday experience. 

Just think how people felt when medical x-rays were first used.  I'm sure that the pictures of their insides looked fake to them.

MRI and CT scans look even more fake, but we trust them to be real, don't we?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 18, 2017, 05:36:27 PM
When will you shills realize that your presence here is like our lack of a presence on the moon....

The longer you stay here, the more evident it becomes that you have ultierior motives.

Just like the more time passes that mankind has not returned to the moon, the more obvious it gets that it was a hoax!
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: Alpha2Omega on May 18, 2017, 06:18:55 PM
When will you shills realize that your presence here is like our lack of a presence on the moon....

The longer you stay here, the more evident it becomes that you have ultierior motives.

Just like the more time passes that mankind has not returned to the moon, the more obvious it gets that it was a hoax!

Can you make a compelling case to convince politicians or some private entity with the requisite discretionary resources to commit the money and undertake the risk required to return to the moon? That would be great!

If you can't find a compelling, most likely economic, reason, what's your point?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: markjo on May 18, 2017, 06:52:06 PM
When will you shills realize that your presence here is like our lack of a presence on the moon....

The longer you stay here, the more evident it becomes that you have ultierior motives.

Just like the more time passes that mankind has not returned to the moon, the more obvious it gets that it was a hoax!
Actually, there have been a number of unmanned probes sent to the moon over the last 30 years or so.  There are also several programs in the works to send manned missions to the moon.  It's all a matter of national priority and money.
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: boydster on May 18, 2017, 08:37:45 PM
When will you shills realize that your presence here is like our lack of a presence on the moon....

The longer you stay here, the more evident it becomes that you have ultierior motives.

Just like the more time passes that mankind has not returned to the moon, the more obvious it gets that it was a hoax!

Have you stared at it closely enough, for long enough?
Title: Re: You Intellectuals Should Really Look At Your Lives Closely
Post by: jtlondon83 on May 19, 2017, 09:40:49 PM
Hello all-

I rarely come by these parts as it is mostly a collection of little boys who use so-called science, Wikipedia and consensus belief as fact while trying to be smart by arguing the shape of the earth with those who they feel are far less intellectually capable then themselves. So, to those Globe believers that have 100-200 posts, I can see that. You come here, you make a few points, debunk a few claims... makes sense.

This post however, is to the Globe Believer out there who has any number higher than 500 under their name. Honestly, you need to immediately look at your life and the way you spend your time as it is a sad indicator of your perceived intelligence. I see constant name calling and building yourselves up like you are some kind of intellectual. Ask yourself, why in the world you would spend your time on a forum for flat-tards as you call them? What could possibly be the motivation? Do you also run track against people in wheelchairs and have eating competitions against toddlers. Wow, you ate more hot dogs than that 2 year old? Impressive. Won that swim meet against the lady with no arms? Well aren't your parents proud!

Is that really the best you can do?  Debate those who you think are ignorant and the scum of the world?  You chose the forum full of what you consider ignorant flat earth fools to flex your intellectual muscles?  I am really impressed. Tell me, where can I find the next NY Yankees vs. The Inner City of Chicago Little League game? Should be a barn burner. Seems to me you guys secretly doubt your own beliefs and this place makes you feel all warm and cozy. This way you can sleep well at night and think of Elon Musk stroking your hair gently. Good night sweet prince... don't forget to say your prayers! "I thank the big bang for everything, thanks stellar theory and gravity for holding me down. Thanks St. Newton for telling us how a cannon would work if we shot it too far, not far enough and most importantly, if we shot it just right!  Thanks for all the wonderful things in orbit and all NASA has provided the human race. Thanks Arthur C. Clarke for giving NASA your satellite ideas and thanks to the the big blue globe for pulling us all to the center. Thanks amoeba for evolving into me. Thanks star dust for creating schools to indoctrinate me and thank you most for flat earthers so I can feel smart by referring to facts that men say are true and I really trust them. In the name of The Physics, The Sun and the Holy Peer Reviewed Journals -  Ahhhh men!"

Mate the chutzpah of that sentiment is incredible. 500 plus posts containing facts isn't the problem here - you've done 85 posts in which you claim the Earth is flat.. That's crazy right there.

You realise (by which I mean you probably don't realise) that you've compared your intellectual ability unfavourably with a physical handicap there.. I'm not saying you're wrong it's just unusual when you're claiming that you're the clever one.