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Title: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 05:07:37 PM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

Their reason: it's floating away.

Aside from the absurdity of a giant mass of silicates, iron, and other heavy metals floating across the oceans - don't you RE'ers get concerned that your maps are never accurate?

FET has no such inconsistencies.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: markjo on October 16, 2016, 05:14:07 PM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles...
Citation please.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 05:18:56 PM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles...
Citation please.

For which move? It seems to happen at least annually...
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 16, 2016, 05:28:18 PM
Citation for the "hundreds of miles statement please."

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A team of scientists is about to recalculate the nation's latitude and longitude coordinates, which are currently out by more than 1.5 metres.

It will improve the accuracy of all spatial information across the nation for a myriad of services including transportation, personal navigation and surveying.

The framework currently in use, known as the Geocentric Datum of Australia, was last updated in 1994.

Because Australia sits on the fastest moving continental tectonic plate in the world, coordinates measured in the past continue changing over time.

The continent is moving north by about 7 centimetres each year, colliding with the Pacific Plate, which is moving west about 11 centimetres each year.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-28/aust-latitude-longitude-coordinates-out-by-1-5m-scientists/7666858

That's how you cite something Narc, just for next time.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 05:33:31 PM
If we erase the corrections for the last few centuries, here's the "round earth" :

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/OrteliusWorldMap1570.jpg)
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 16, 2016, 05:35:16 PM
Oh wow a map from before Australia was discovered, cool.

Now, how about that citation?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 05:37:24 PM
Oh wow a map from before Australia was discovered, cool.

Now, how about that citation?

You posted one yourself just minutes ago. Don't tell me you really need a citation for your citation.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 16, 2016, 05:40:02 PM
My citation is for 1.5 metres, are you admitting you were being intentionally dishonest?

As for no inconsistencies,

(https://s16.postimg.org/edwt47pxt/13332942_1194986063847836_4482184175555132480_n.jpg)

Another win for the southern hempisphere.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Badxtoss on October 16, 2016, 05:43:17 PM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

Their reason: it's floating away.

Aside from the absurdity of a giant mass of silicates, iron, and other heavy metals floating across the oceans - don't you RE'ers get concerned that your maps are never accurate?

FET has no such inconsistencies.
Australia is an island continent and moves, slowly, and in a predictable manner.  I doubt maps have been changed by hundreds of miles in modern times.
There is no inconsistency.  Your claim that FE has no inconsistency is laughable as it has yet to produce a map that matches reality.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 05:44:08 PM
My citation is for 1.5 metres, are you admitting you were being intentionally dishonest?

As for no inconsistencies,

(https://s16.postimg.org/edwt47pxt/13332942_1194986063847836_4482184175555132480_n.jpg)

Another win for the southern hempisphere.

That is the last time it was (will be) moved. It occurs regularly - as if RE'ers just can't pin down where Australia actually is!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Badxtoss on October 16, 2016, 05:48:22 PM
My citation is for 1.5 metres, are you admitting you were being intentionally dishonest?

As for no inconsistencies,

(https://s16.postimg.org/edwt47pxt/13332942_1194986063847836_4482184175555132480_n.jpg)

Another win for the southern hempisphere.

That is the last time it was (will be) moved. It occurs regularly - as if RE'ers just can't pin down where Australia actually is!
I'm going to assume you simply had not read the response pointing out that, in fact, Australia does move, slowly and predictably.  No inconsistency at all.
However I challenge you to show an Fe map without glaring inconsistencies
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on October 16, 2016, 05:49:38 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Badxtoss on October 16, 2016, 05:55:44 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
you're right.  It's a giant island floating on pontoons out in the ocean.  It moves so much it's actually hard to schedule flights there.  You can check out flight times.  Sometimes a flight from LA takes 12 hours, sometimes it takes 4.  Once it actually bumped into the Philippines.  That's actually what started WW2, in the pacific anyway
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 16, 2016, 06:14:56 PM


Sorry did you just imply that Australia is floating?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: IonSpen on October 16, 2016, 06:18:34 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
Looks like he's answered his own question. Victory for RE, right?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: markjo on October 16, 2016, 08:54:32 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
??? Why should Australia sink?  If a 225,000 ton cruise ship can float, then why shouldn't Australia be able to float?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Oasis_of_the_Seas.jpg/640px-Oasis_of_the_Seas.jpg)
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 16, 2016, 09:01:33 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
??? Why should Australia sink?  If a 225,000 ton cruise ship can float, then why shouldn't Australia be able to float?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Oasis_of_the_Seas.jpg/640px-Oasis_of_the_Seas.jpg)

Is that ship made out of sand and tea trees with kangaroos and kolas on top? 
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: markjo on October 16, 2016, 09:08:05 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
??? Why should Australia sink?  If a 225,000 ton cruise ship can float, then why shouldn't Australia be able to float?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Oasis_of_the_Seas.jpg/640px-Oasis_of_the_Seas.jpg)

Is that ship made out of sand and tea trees with kangaroos and kolas on top?
Well, it does have a small forest.
(http://images.r.cruisecritic.com/features/2016/01/rewrite_oasis-central-park-evening.jpg)
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 16, 2016, 09:38:57 PM
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The continents do not float on a sea of molten rock. The continental and oceanic crusts sit on a thick layer of solid rock known as the mantle. While there is a layer of liquid rock in the earth known as the outer core, this layer is about 3000 km below earth's surface and is separated from the surface by the thick solid mantle. The tectonic plates do not slowly drift over time because they are floating on a layer of liquid rock. They drift because they are sitting on a layer of solid rock (the upper mantle or "asthenosphere") that is weak and ductile enough that it can flow very slowly under heat convention, somewhat like a liquid.

http://sciencequestionswithsurprisinganswers.org/mobile/2013/07/18/what-keeps-the-continents-floating-on-a-sea-of-molten-rock/

Well there you go, I'm learning something.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 16, 2016, 09:40:04 PM
markjo gave the koalas chlamydia.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 16, 2016, 10:06:12 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
Just how large are these movements?
Quote
A team of scientists is about to recalculate the nation's latitude and longitude coordinates, which are currently out by more than 1.5 metres.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Because Australia sits on the fastest moving continental tectonic plate in the world, coordinates measured in the past continue changing over time.
The continent is moving north by about 7 centimetres each year, colliding with the Pacific Plate, which is moving west about 11 centimetres each year.
From: Australia's latitude and longitude coordinates out by more than 1.5 metres (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-28/aust-latitude-longitude-coordinates-out-by-1-5m-scientists/7666858)
Now please come up with proof of your claim that Australia moved 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles.

The 600 feet figure I know about. Australia did not move, but in 1994 Australia adopted the GDA94 coordinate system to be consistent with GPS location across the world, see in Geocentric Datum of Australia (GDA). (http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/positioning-navigation/geodesy/geodetic-datums/gda)

Now as for the Flat Earth knowing where Australia is. The Flat Earth Societies don't even know the shape of a map of the world. Last time it came up, jroa I believe asserted that there is no "official flat earth map" and various Flat Earthers seem to think the world looks like:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ak7cx3id0ibekl1/Ice-Wall%20Map.jpg?dl=1)
Flat Earth Ice Wall Map
   
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ansfcrvegj5o1hw/Bipolar%20Map.jpg?dl=1)
Bipolar Flat Earth
   
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/xbvt4h7f3gp7uv8/Azimuthal%20Map%20Northern%20Hemiplane.jpg?dl=1)
Map Northern Hemiplane, DET
   
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/4sgti14589eveuf/Azimuthal%20Map%20Southern%20Hemiplane.jpg?dl=1)
Map Southern Hemiplane

All of these maps are proposed by various quite active flat earthers.
The left is of course is the (un)official "Ice Wall Map",
the next is the "Bipolar Map" "pushed" by Tom Bishop who is very prominent on TFES.org, and
the two on the right are the North and South Hemiplanes of JRoweskeptic's Dual Earth Theory.
Then of course you should ask Sandokhan what the earth looks like!

And have a look at
(https://i.imgsafe.org/c943d47b7b.png)
İntikam's, "New Map Suggest"

You claim that the Flat Earth Sociaty has no such problem as Australia "moving"! It can even find even find Australia in the first place!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 16, 2016, 10:10:11 PM
Is that ship made out of sand and tea trees with kangaroos and kolas on top?

?? "kolas on top" ?? We have Coca Cola and Pepsi Cola, I've never heard of "kola", and why would you put them "on top"?

I know is "kola" a new type of hat?

I just can't match your and narcberry's level of stupidity, but I can try.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: RocksEverywhere on October 17, 2016, 01:32:27 AM
If we keep moving around Australia, the dangerous animals that live there won't be able to find us, hence keeping ourselves safe.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 17, 2016, 07:34:40 PM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

Their reason: it's floating away.

Aside from the absurdity of a giant mass of silicates, iron, and other heavy metals floating across the oceans - don't you RE'ers get concerned that your maps are never accurate?

FET has no such inconsistencies.

You do realise that most of the time you seem to post completely unfounded absurdities and then claim those absurdities are a "clear victory for the FE"!

If that's a victory, I'd hate to see a defeat.

Please quote your basis for claiming both of these "a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles" or I'll be tempted to call you out as a bare-faced liar!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Hamzah on October 17, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
Is that ship made out of sand and tea trees with kangaroos and kolas on top?

No. I believe they made out of steel.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 01:03:01 AM
This narcberry character sounds like a complete clown. Yet he can write proper sentences. it would appear something is very definately 'off' with him. Is there some kind of history with him?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 18, 2016, 01:17:16 AM
Seriously, Mods, I don't often (ever) complain about other posters like this but fliggs has 400 posts of personal attacks and gaslighting. Not once have I seen him contribute anything other than insults to a thread.

He just got off a ban for personal attacks then the day he comes back he is doing the same things he was banned for.

At Fliggs does it really make you feel better about yourself and the life you made calling flat earthers "insane"?

Could you go on without logging on to call people crazy every few days?

If so, then please do.

Also, yuck I stood up for Narc :-/
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 01:50:26 AM
Seriously, Mods, I don't often (ever) complain about other posters like this but fliggs has 400 posts of personal attacks and gaslighting. Not once have I seen him contribute anything other than insults to a thread.

He just got off a ban for personal attacks then the day he comes back he is doing the same things he was banned for.

At Fliggs does it really make you feel better about yourself and the life you made calling flat earthers "insane"?

Could you go on without logging on to call people crazy every few days?

If so, then please do.

Also, yuck I stood up for Narc :-/

Hey boofhead. I wasnt banned. I was... WORKING. And no, people don't die if I don't do my job well, like you claim.

I have offered a great deal of commentary on a great number of posts, but all you see are the ones you think you see. But like it or not, many of the people who are not trolls but sincerely beleive this FE nonsense ARE travelling this world with the handicap of a delusional viewpoint. Initkam is either a very, very good troll or (and this is a technical term) 'nutty as a fruitcake'.

To be honest, people like YOU need some help the way you engage with their lunacy (like Jane) as if there was a single skerrick of scientific merit to them.

Grow a set and start accepting that not everyone is as gullible as you (or as ready with a rather obviously false bio).
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 18, 2016, 01:53:04 AM
This narcberry character sounds like a complete clown. Yet he can write proper sentences. it would appear something is very definately 'off' with him. Is there some kind of history with him?
Just try to "interpret" these! Then you will some background.

. . . . . . . .
Can you give another example of that?  I've never seen a thing that would magnify the apparent size of something the farther it got away from you.  How exactly does that work?  I also don't see how it then dips below the horizon.  Also how then does the light strike the top of a mountain at sunrise and leave it last at sunset.
yeah, basically the light from the sun is focused at a > 0 degree angle, as it refracts through the humidity in our atmosphere it creates this optical illusion as well as rainbows. This effect is described in much more detail from Tom Bishop. You'll need to use the search tool to find additional reading. Fascinating stuff really.
And
. . . . . . . . . . .
That doesn't explain how the sun stays the same size as it supposedly moves away, perspective dictates it would get smaller.  Nor does it explain how the sun gradually dips below the horizon instead of blending with it.  In fact I can't really see what it does explain.
The sun is a convex mirror reflecting starlight along a uniform path - that unique optical property makes it appear the same size at varying distances.
And
The sun after/before twilight is behind a lot more of earths atmosphere than the stars are, the stars emit different light, and i don't know why I'm having to explain any of this.
And
Please do not respond to resolved threads, sukarol.
Thanks!
And
Please do not respond to resolved threads.
Thanks!
And
Thanks for your question but this thread is already marked as resolved.
And
I think this thread has been resolved and can be closed now.
Thanks everyone for your contributions, this thread chalks up in favor of FET. Lets keep quality questions like this coming!
And an unlimited posting of
ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FE!!!!
and there's more
www.google.com (http://www.google.com)
Specific link please.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google.com (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google.com)
Still translating all this stuff for me? Well have a go at this!
Antarctica is in every direction planar normal to the surface of the earth.
Still going?
The idea that water is weightless is absurd, but that's exactly what RET predicts. FET explains the heaviness of the oceans quite nicely.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 02:05:07 AM
So DISPUTEONE....

You dare to send me an abusive personal message then block my right to reply. COWARD.  But for your benefit... here is my response.

"Why would I bother to debate 911 with an idiot like you? You spend more of your time criticising someone who rather obviously knows more about mental illness than you (I am published in the field) than debating the utter foolishness on here.

Inconvenient facts obviously cause you pain. Only one other person bothered to criticise my schizophrenia claims and it was ironic that a few days later, he was making the exact same claims after it became exceedingly obvious. See? Cynics and sceptics can be convinced by evidence. And then there is you...

When discussing conspiracy theorists, yes, most are suffering levels of delusion. There are  those who simply cannot cope with unanswered questions and so become 'conspiracists' to certain levels and ascribe benefits of doubt to 'the conspiracy. That isnt schizophrenia at all because they still possess the ability to be convinced otherwise with an abundance of evidence. But there are those for whom EVERY adverse event, plane crash, mass shooting etc are conspiracies. That is a whole cornucopia of mental illness possibilities.

I am sure you are a 9/11 sceptic, but I bet you dont believe the planes were holograms or that the entire thing was faked. You are clearly not a nutter nor stupid. You are however rather angry for reasons that would be interesting, but doubtless not something you wish to share.

And no, I am not at all interested in wasting my time debating 911 with you. Firstly, I dont care enough to bother and secondly, I would be pretty sure there is no evidence to convince you anyhow. I have read extensively on the physics of falling buildings by some rather impressively credentialled people whom I have no doubt you would presume to debunk with all of your post-doctoral work in material physics.

I dont care. You are too thin-skinned and edgy for me to bother.

And just for the record, I am not a psychologist as I do not have a PhD in THAT discipline. But only last week when I was not posting, it was because I was running a training course for post-grads and post-docs in a science discipline here in Australia."

Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 02:06:25 AM
This narcberry character sounds like a complete clown. Yet he can write proper sentences. it would appear something is very definately 'off' with him. Is there some kind of history with him?
Just try to "interpret" these! Then you will some background.

. . . . . . . .
Can you give another example of that?  I've never seen a thing that would magnify the apparent size of something the farther it got away from you.  How exactly does that work?  I also don't see how it then dips below the horizon.  Also how then does the light strike the top of a mountain at sunrise and leave it last at sunset.
yeah, basically the light from the sun is focused at a > 0 degree angle, as it refracts through the humidity in our atmosphere it creates this optical illusion as well as rainbows. This effect is described in much more detail from Tom Bishop. You'll need to use the search tool to find additional reading. Fascinating stuff really.
And
. . . . . . . . . . .
That doesn't explain how the sun stays the same size as it supposedly moves away, perspective dictates it would get smaller.  Nor does it explain how the sun gradually dips below the horizon instead of blending with it.  In fact I can't really see what it does explain.
The sun is a convex mirror reflecting starlight along a uniform path - that unique optical property makes it appear the same size at varying distances.
And
The sun after/before twilight is behind a lot more of earths atmosphere than the stars are, the stars emit different light, and i don't know why I'm having to explain any of this.
And
Please do not respond to resolved threads, sukarol.
Thanks!
And
Please do not respond to resolved threads.
Thanks!
And
Thanks for your question but this thread is already marked as resolved.
And
I think this thread has been resolved and can be closed now.
Thanks everyone for your contributions, this thread chalks up in favor of FET. Lets keep quality questions like this coming!
And an unlimited posting of
ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FE!!!!
and there's more
www.google.com (http://www.google.com)
Specific link please.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google.com (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google.com)
Still translating all this stuff for me? Well have a go at this!
Antarctica is in every direction planar normal to the surface of the earth.
Still going?
The idea that water is weightless is absurd, but that's exactly what RET predicts. FET explains the heaviness of the oceans quite nicely.

He truly does come up with some exquisite lunacy. He is either a fabulous troll or deeply damaged.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 18, 2016, 03:45:48 AM
I totally forgot you couldnt send me a pm while I had you ignored lol, if it makes you feel better you are the only person I have ever ignored.

It wasn't abusive dont be dishonest.

Why not call some other conspiricy nuts crazy for a change?

Edit.

Just read the whole message, sorry about your issues bro.

Edit.

This is the "abusive" PM.

I don't feel like I need to prove anything here however I have integrity and I deplore dishonesty.

I understand from your posts that you believe all conspiricy theorists to be schizophrenics who can't debate.

I challenge you to even try debating me and BHS on 9/11 should be easy to disprove a couple of "schizos"

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67174.30

Plus, I'd like to take you down a notch or ten.

Make sure you bring your A game, may take more than calling us crazy but hey I hope you try.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 18, 2016, 04:10:33 AM
Inconvenient facts obviously cause you pain. Only one other person bothered to criticise my schizophrenia claims and it was ironic that a few days later, he was making the exact same claims after it became exceedingly obvious. See? Cynics and sceptics can be convinced by evidence. And then there is you...

At least one of the people you are gaslighting does need real help as soon as possible, I agree on that one.

That's why you getting on and calling people things like "insane" "schizo" "crazy" just makes me explode. I thought as a published psychologist you might understand.

However I read through a lot of your posts out of curiousity and I honestly believe you are a troll now. You have literally contributed nothing except to your ego.

Part of me was just so angry a "psychologist" could throw around mental illness like a derogatory term for people he considered stupid.

That's gone now so cool, thanks.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 18, 2016, 05:08:18 AM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

Their reason: it's floating away.

Aside from the absurdity of a giant mass of silicates, iron, and other heavy metals floating across the oceans - don't you RE'ers get concerned that your maps are never accurate?

FET has no such inconsistencies.

You do realise that most of the time you seem to post completely unfounded absurdities and then claim those absurdities are a "clear victory for the FE"!

If that's a victory, I'd hate to see a defeat.

Please quote your basis for claiming both of these "a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles" or I'll be tempted to call you out as a bare-faced liar!

I am still waiting for the sources of your ridiculous statements.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 18, 2016, 05:17:53 AM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

Their reason: it's floating away.

Aside from the absurdity of a giant mass of silicates, iron, and other heavy metals floating across the oceans - don't you RE'ers get concerned that your maps are never accurate?

FET has no such inconsistencies.

I answer you stupid assertions and I don't even get a comment.

You seem to claim everywhere that "FET has no such inconsistencies."
Really the whole Flat Earth Hypothesis is simple full of "such inconsistencies", that you try to explain away with preposterous guesses.

So clearly, at least on the basis of consistency the Globe is obviously the VICTOR by a country mile, urban kilometer or Grecian Stadium - whichever floats your leaky boat!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 18, 2016, 05:45:22 AM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

Their reason: it's floating away.

Aside from the absurdity of a giant mass of silicates, iron, and other heavy metals floating across the oceans - don't you RE'ers get concerned that your maps are never accurate?

FET has no such inconsistencies.

I have explained the 600 foot map coordinate adjustment and the very small drift, but the rest is unsubstantiated rubbish with its "couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles"!

Yes, Australia moving north by 5.6 cm/year, see
Quote from: Wikipedia
Indo-Australian Plate
The eastern part (Australia) is moving northward at the rate of 5.6 cm (2.2 in) per year while the western part (India) is moving only at the rate of 3.7 cm (1.5 in) per year due to the impediment of the Himalayas. This differential movement has resulted in the compression of the former plate near its center at Sumatra and the division into the Indian and Australian Plates.
Big deal!

But, what about the San Andreas Fault in California?
Quote from: LIVE SCIENCE, Becky Oskin
San Andreas Fault Facts
On the west side of the fault sits most of California's population, riding the Pacific Plate northwest while the rest of North America inches south. The Pacific Plate is moving to the northwest at 3 inches (8 centimeters) each year, and the North American Plate is heading south at about 1 inch (2.3 cm) per year.
From: San Andreas Fault Facts (http://www.livescience.com/45294-san-andreas-fault.html)

Now you cannot deny THAT one! I have lived there for 12 months, so I have a bit of "local" knowledge.

Part of California is moving north west crashing into the rest, which is moving south -  talk about a train wreck!

Now, Mr Narcberry what do you have to say about that one. It can't be fixed by changing a few map coordinates!

They do say "Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise". You must be deliriously blissful.

So, what do I end up with now? Three posts in row - maybe that will wake up our sleeping troll!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Globetrotter on October 18, 2016, 09:40:27 AM
 Narcberry, there are phenomenons so-called "earthquakes". Guess, what causes them. No such thing on flat earth?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 04:01:36 PM
Inconvenient facts obviously cause you pain. Only one other person bothered to criticise my schizophrenia claims and it was ironic that a few days later, he was making the exact same claims after it became exceedingly obvious. See? Cynics and sceptics can be convinced by evidence. And then there is you...

At least one of the people you are gaslighting does need real help as soon as possible, I agree on that one.

That's why you getting on and calling people things like "insane" "schizo" "crazy" just makes me explode. I thought as a published psychologist you might understand.

However I read through a lot of your posts out of curiousity and I honestly believe you are a troll now. You have literally contributed nothing except to your ego.

Part of me was just so angry a "psychologist" could throw around mental illness like a derogatory term for people he considered stupid.

That's gone now so cool, thanks.

Try thinking this through logically - even though this place tends to ignore such concepts. Of all the conspiracy theories, this is the bottom of the barrel because Round Earth isnt a theory. It is a fact that is well and truly proven, including by individual observation. In all my time here I have not seen anyone ever convince a flat-earther of a single thing. Not one thing. Nobody. There is your first clue.

In addition, many (although not all) write at a level that indicates that they are not stupid nor uneducated. But they still believe in and promote an idea that is impossible and clearly debunked. They also do so with a passion that belies a mere troll. And then there are those who literally look at a curved horizon and declare confidently 'see! the horizon is flat'. And of course there is also that select little group that 'just knows...' the earth is flat ie they hear voices that confirm it. There is your second clue.

At what point do you or anyone else conclude there is something mentally awry?  There is in fact, no other option open.

My personal philosophy and one I take with me to work is that telling people 'there, there, everything is okay. You are just a bit different' is an evil act that harms the client. Truth can heal even if it hurts. But lies... they only ever hurt.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 18, 2016, 07:14:59 PM
Apology for your dishonesty accepted.

All you are doing is re-inforcing the disgusting stigma behind mental illness, you are dissuading the people who do need help by calling them derogatory names.

My mother has schizophrenia, if I believed calling her "crazy" and other insulting names would help her trust me I would.

You should be ashamed of yourself in my humble opinion.

Edit.

Sorry for spamming up this thread.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: origamiscienceguy on October 18, 2016, 07:39:57 PM
Maybe australia is secretly holding a vast supply of Helium, and the united states is holding it there in order to manipulate the global shortage. That would explain why it floats.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 18, 2016, 07:49:26 PM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

No answer Mr Narcberry? Are we then to conclude that this was a deceptive post, purely fabricated to make the Globe look ridiculous?

Well, maybe you should look in the mirror to see where that egg yolk is dripping!

You have been very quiet for a couple of days. If you are on a vacation I guess we can wait till you get back for your abject apology.
Though you have been around long enough to see replies to your silly post.

Your posts are making the Flat earth look quite ridiculous, just tellin'.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Hamzah on October 18, 2016, 09:18:58 PM
Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.

No answer Mr Narcberry? Are we then to conclude that this was a deceptive post, purely fabricated to make the Globe look ridiculous?

Well, maybe you should look in the mirror to see where that egg yolk is dripping!

You have been very quiet for a couple of days. If you are on a vacation I guess we can wait till you get back for your abject apology.
Though you have been around long enough to see replies to your silly post.

Your posts are making the Flat earth look quite ridiculous, just tellin'.

This forum needs quote notifications.

Vote here https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=68178.0
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 09:30:36 PM
Apology for your dishonesty accepted.

All you are doing is re-inforcing the disgusting stigma behind mental illness, you are dissuading the people who do need help by calling them derogatory names.

My mother has schizophrenia, if I believed calling her "crazy" and other insulting names would help her trust me I would.

You should be ashamed of yourself in my humble opinion.

Edit.

Sorry for spamming up this thread.

Do you think you have a monopoly on family with mental illness? Did it ever occur to you that my strong position on this might be because I have both a mother and sister afflicted with such an illness but which is acerbated by the refusal to get it treated.

Grow a set and move on. You will disagree with a whole lot of people in your lifetime and a lot of them will be right.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 09:31:27 PM
Maybe australia is secretly holding a vast supply of Helium, and the united states is holding it there in order to manipulate the global shortage. That would explain why it floats.

Sadly, that makes more sense than some of the alternative theories that abound.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: TotesReptilian on October 18, 2016, 09:41:43 PM
My personal philosophy and one I take with me to work is that telling people 'there, there, everything is okay. You are just a bit different' is an evil act that harms the client. Truth can heal even if it hurts. But lies... they only ever hurt.

1. These are not your clients. This is an internet forum.
2. Just because it is harmful to lie doesn't mean you have to tell the brutal truth about everything. You can choose to say nothing. Do you go around telling ugly people they are ugly?
3. Yes, we get it. You think everyone here is mentally ill. Great. Thanks. Very helpful. Now please shut up about it.

I don't care if you are really a professional psychologist or not. But if you are, you are the least mature psychologist I have ever seen, and you are not a credit to your profession. Is that enough truth for you?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 18, 2016, 10:16:23 PM
Cheers Totes, you are both a gentleman and a scholar.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 18, 2016, 10:18:04 PM

I don't care if you are really a professional psychologist or not. But if you are, you are the least mature psychologist I have ever seen, and you are not a credit to your profession. Is that enough truth for you?

Quoted for truth.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 11:12:20 PM
My personal philosophy and one I take with me to work is that telling people 'there, there, everything is okay. You are just a bit different' is an evil act that harms the client. Truth can heal even if it hurts. But lies... they only ever hurt.

1. These are not your clients. This is an internet forum.
2. Just because it is harmful to lie doesn't mean you have to tell the brutal truth about everything. You can choose to say nothing. Do you go around telling ugly people they are ugly?
3. Yes, we get it. You think everyone here is mentally ill. Great. Thanks. Very helpful. Now please shut up about it.

I don't care if you are really a professional psychologist or not. But if you are, you are the least mature psychologist I have ever seen, and you are not a credit to your profession. Is that enough truth for you?

Do you have an alternative explanation for what is said on here?  And let's face it, who else is telling these people about the dangers they are embracing? Jane who enables and builds them up? Or the people who debunk everything they say to absolutely no avail?

Many of you are just here for fun - to laugh at the idiots. IS that some kind of moral high ground that you are going to use to criticise me?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 18, 2016, 11:14:39 PM

I don't care if you are really a professional psychologist or not. But if you are, you are the least mature psychologist I have ever seen, and you are not a credit to your profession. Is that enough truth for you?

Quoted for truth.

The stupid FEers are not the only ignorant dopes apparently unable to read. I have stated numerous times that I am NOT a practising psychologist but have researched and published in the field. This is no different to how FEers ask the same questions time and time again getting the exact same answers all to no avail.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 18, 2016, 11:23:07 PM
Citation please, I am sure I remember you saying you had a degree.

Perhaps I just inferred it, so basically you are just calling people crazy because you are a dick?

I read a lot, I would never presume to imply that reading books makes me qualified to do the actual job.

Trying to learn some of the maths for GR atm, it is way over my head, read quite a few books now, (they are quite expensive even to rent.) I wouldn't dream of trying an argument from authority like you seem to in every single one of your posts.

Oh and you can thank this forum for my renewed interest in physics.

Another win for the FE!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 19, 2016, 12:06:39 AM
Citation please, I am sure I remember you saying you had a degree.

Perhaps I just inferred it, so basically you are just calling people crazy because you are a dick?

I read a lot, I would never presume to imply that reading books makes me qualified to do the actual job.

Trying to learn some of the maths for GR atm, it is way over my head, read quite a few books now, (they are quite expensive even to rent.) I wouldn't dream of trying an argument from authority like you seem to in every single one of your posts.

Oh and you can thank this forum for my renewed interest in physics.

Another win for the FE!

I do have a degree. And in todays lesson we learn that there are *gasp* many different degrees around. And to be a licensed Psychologist in Australia you have to have the equivalent of 6 years university training. Most do so with a PhD but some choose the Master's route.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 19, 2016, 12:11:39 AM
So you are not qualified to diagnose people but try to on this forum.

Noted.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 19, 2016, 12:13:41 AM
Citation please, I am sure I remember you saying you had a degree.

Perhaps I just inferred it, so basically you are just calling people crazy because you are a dick?

I read a lot, I would never presume to imply that reading books makes me qualified to do the actual job.

Trying to learn some of the maths for GR atm, it is way over my head, read quite a few books now, (they are quite expensive even to rent.) I wouldn't dream of trying an argument from authority like you seem to in every single one of your posts.

Oh and you can thank this forum for my renewed interest in physics.

Another win for the FE!

Good for you getting back into physics. Physics and maths essentially explain the universe. BTW I did physics at university, but seeing how Physicsteacher was treated by the loons, I have not bothered to enter those kinds of debates. Since they cannot understand perspective, how are they ever going to understand Partial Dimensional Cosmology or the Time-variant version of the Standard Model of Matter?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 19, 2016, 12:16:14 AM
So you are not qualified to diagnose people but try to on this forum.

Noted.

If I see a leg bent at 90 degrees do I need to be a Medical Doctor to diagnose a broken leg? Do you need to be a licensed plumber to diagnose a broken pipe when water is pouring out your bathroom wall?

If you want to debate anything you  are going to have to discard your own version of the pitiful Appeal to Authority.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 19, 2016, 12:20:53 AM
"Physics teacher" didn't under basic physics or FoR there were a lot of RE "loons" tearing him apart also.

Also this.

So you are not qualified to diagnose people but try to on this forum.

Noted.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: sokarul on October 19, 2016, 12:31:40 AM
Relax guys. Narcberry ran away crying from this thread so the thread can die now.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 19, 2016, 01:18:35 AM
Relax guys. Narcberry ran away crying from this thread so the thread can die now.
So can we claim a clear victory for the Globe?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: RocksEverywhere on October 19, 2016, 01:30:22 AM
Please stop posting in this thread, it has been resolved.

Victory for RE!!!




Did I do this right?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: wise on October 19, 2016, 02:01:07 AM
Rounders are playing a puzzle game: This part to the left, ooops incompatible with the part on left, so it is to the right... hmm its okey now, compatible with local map... merge them, oops there is not enought room for Australia, keep it a bit right... Hmm thats okey now. we can fool idiots with this.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: sokarul on October 19, 2016, 02:02:45 AM
Relax guys. Narcberry ran away crying from this thread so the thread can die now.
So can we claim a clear victory for the Globe?
Might as well.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 19, 2016, 02:05:54 AM
Sokarul is right, we should all relish in the defeat of narcberry.
Sorry I spent so much time attacking another poster.

ANOTHER DEFEAT FOR NARCBERRY!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: sokarul on October 19, 2016, 02:20:15 AM
It's really just that FE'ers start stupid threads all the time and then run away, while re'ers carry on the thread for pages.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Hamzah on October 19, 2016, 11:03:39 AM
RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?

The Australian Plate is moving about 7 centimeters northwards every single year. That's why people keep updating the map.

The question answered. Topic closed.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: IonSpen on October 19, 2016, 11:13:21 AM
Another victory for RE!!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: fliggs on October 19, 2016, 10:28:44 PM
"Physics teacher" didn't under basic physics or FoR there were a lot of RE "loons" tearing him apart also.

Also this.

So you are not qualified to diagnose people but try to on this forum.

Noted.

I'm intrigued as to how you think quoting YOURSELF in any way adds to its credibility. When my work was cited in a couple of PhD theses recently, that added value to my work. When I quote my own work in subseqent articles (and I do at times), it does not.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: IonSpen on October 20, 2016, 08:20:26 AM
Would you two please just at least agree to disagree, shake hands, and go separate ways? Please? I enjoy what both of you contribute, and it was so much better when it was just that. After all, we are on the same team here. OK?

Sincerely,
Everyone
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: TotesReptilian on October 20, 2016, 08:52:44 AM
"Physics teacher" didn't under basic physics or FoR there were a lot of RE "loons" tearing him apart also.

Also this.

So you are not qualified to diagnose people but try to on this forum.

Noted.

I'm intrigued as to how you think quoting YOURSELF in any way adds to its credibility. When my work was cited in a couple of PhD theses recently, that added value to my work. When I quote my own work in subseqent articles (and I do at times), it does not.

Really dude? Bragging about your credentials on a semi-anonymous internet forum in order to justify diagnosing/insulting everyone else on that forum? Ugh... I cringed so hard I think I chipped a tooth.

Would you two please just at least agree to disagree, shake hands, and go separate ways? Please? I enjoy what both of you contribute, and it was so much better when it was just that. After all, we are on the same team here. OK?

But... but... the drama!

#TeamEdwardDisputeone
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: science-guy on October 20, 2016, 10:18:44 AM
people that tell you australia is floating away are the same science loosers as FE. you cant possibly be arguing for FE by using that bullshit.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2016, 10:32:02 AM

Would you two please just at least agree to disagree, shake hands, and go separate ways? Please? I enjoy what both of you contribute, and it was so much better when it was just that. After all, we are on the same team here. OK?

But... but... the drama!

#TeamEdwardDisputeone

IonSpen thinks anyone who insults FEers is on his team and deserves a reach around.

#TeamDisputeone
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: IonSpen on October 20, 2016, 12:05:24 PM
Who is doing the insulting?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 20, 2016, 04:45:00 PM
Who is doing the insulting?

Were you lying when you said you enjoyed his posts? Or do you just automatically think anyone RE is by default on your team? Maybe you should click on his user name and read a few posts.

Is this your first forum?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 20, 2016, 06:31:35 PM
Help. help! I don't know where I are!

I wake and find that they have moved Australia again.

I insist that whoever did that put it back immediately or I'll get Donald Trump onto you, so there! Bet that scares you, just low he scared those Mexicans!

Sorry, I just noticed that this thread was started by the Narc, who posts what can only be described as lies.

Now I know it's all a FE scam, I can rest easy!
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: IonSpen on October 20, 2016, 07:41:58 PM
Who is doing the insulting?

Were you lying when you said you enjoyed his posts? Or do you just automatically think anyone RE is by default on your team? Maybe you should click on his user name and read a few posts.

Is this your first forum?
Nope, not lying. I enjoy reading what they both have to contribute, aside from the personal bickering, it can be educational. And that I can appreciate. Isn't that what this place is about?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 20, 2016, 07:51:22 PM

Maybe you should click on his user name and read a few posts.

If you are in a good mood I do not recommend this action.

I like most of your posts also Ion, for the record I am on no ones team, I'm here to have fun, to talk to intellectuals and free thinkers and to make and keep the friends I have already made here.

I am certainly not on the same team as fliggs, I wouldn't put up with the way he talks to people in real life but I am nearly forced to put up with it here.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: IonSpen on October 20, 2016, 08:00:40 PM
My fault assumption, I stand corrected. Your dislike must run for much longer than I've been around, clearly you have your reasons. I'll leave it at that, and say "duly noted".
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 20, 2016, 08:29:23 PM
Not at all I just have a personal problem with people gaslighting others and using mental illness as an insult.

I have Bipolar and do just fine, my mother has Schizophrenia and really struggles, I help and support her as best as I can. It did make for a difficult childhood as she was a single parent.

My sister is doing her PhD in psychology currently.

I called fliggs out a few times about calling people "crazy" I have personal experience of the stigma that is put on MI individuals and It really pushes my buttons.

fliggs continues to try to diagnose people here even though he is not qualified to diagnose a headache and that this is a flat earth forum. ::)
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on October 20, 2016, 09:08:50 PM
Not at all I just have a personal problem with people gaslighting others and using mental illness as an insult.

I have Bipolar and do just fine, my mother has Schizophrenia and really struggles, I help and support her as best as I can. It did make for a difficult childhood as she was a single parent.

My sister is doing her PhD in psychology currently.

I called fliggs out a few times about calling people "crazy" I have personal experience of the stigma that is put on MI individuals and It really pushes my buttons.

fliggs continues to try to diagnose people here even though he is not qualified to diagnose a headache and that this is a flat earth forum. ::)
A bit like I feel about people here (well, jroa anyway) using the tern "autistic" in a derogatory sense. Some of the highest achievers have some level of ASD.

Likewise, some look on those with cerebral palsy ("spastic") as lacking in intelligence, when in so many cases they are extremely intelligent, but simply have a speech difficulty.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on October 20, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
Good point Rab, I completely agree.

fliggs could take a few notes out of your book as to how to debunk something with facts research and science instead of resorting to childish personal attacks
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on November 15, 2016, 05:40:52 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
you're right.  It's a giant island floating on pontoons out in the ocean.  It moves so much it's actually hard to schedule flights there.  You can check out flight times.  Sometimes a flight from LA takes 12 hours, sometimes it takes 4.  Once it actually bumped into the Philippines.  That's actually what started WW2, in the pacific anyway

I mean truly, is RET even alive anymore?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on November 15, 2016, 05:57:19 PM
Hey Narc hows things.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: southern hemispherer on November 15, 2016, 10:24:51 PM
Well at least RET'ers have satellites and cartographers out there checking on distances and movements due to tectonic plates. Poor old FE'ers would have to rely on century old maps with wildy fluctuating distances and directions if they were to travel to Australia. They probably would not make it as they would end up flying over Russia, China or South Korea and being shot down. Either that, or they would turn back for fear of crashing into the Ice Wall of Death when they lost all bearings. Ever wondered why FE'ers have not tried to get to an Antarctic base to check the 24 hour sun? Well now you know the reason.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on November 17, 2016, 05:41:46 PM
So your argument is, "the earth is round because people flying to Australia would be shot down by Russians"?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on November 17, 2016, 07:01:23 PM
So your argument is, "the earth is round because people flying to Australia would be shot down by Russians"?
I wonder you're game to show your face again after the botch you made of that!

You have not yet faced up to the fact that your OP was so much in error that I would consider it quite deceitful.

Right near the beginning we had
Citation for the "hundreds of miles statement please."
I have seen no answer yet. Mind you the thread has been asleep so long, I might have missed it.

So please tell me why you made such a ridiculous claim!

And you can hardly say that Australia has changed from before it was even surveyed - that's so stupid it's not worth a comment.

A month ago I answered all your ridiculous claims! In case you missed it here is is again.
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
Just how large are these movements?
Quote
A team of scientists is about to recalculate the nation's latitude and longitude coordinates, which are currently out by more than 1.5 metres.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Because Australia sits on the fastest moving continental tectonic plate in the world, coordinates measured in the past continue changing over time.
The continent is moving north by about 7 centimetres each year, colliding with the Pacific Plate, which is moving west about 11 centimetres each year.
From: Australia's latitude and longitude coordinates out by more than 1.5 metres (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-28/aust-latitude-longitude-coordinates-out-by-1-5m-scientists/7666858)
Now please come up with proof of your claim that Australia moved 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles.

The 600 feet figure I know about. Australia did not move, but in 1994 Australia adopted the GDA94 coordinate system to be consistent with GPS location across the world, see in Geocentric Datum of Australia (GDA). (http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/positioning-navigation/geodesy/geodetic-datums/gda)

Now as for the Flat Earth knowing where Australia is. The Flat Earth Societies don't even know the shape of a map of the world. Last time it came up, jroa I believe asserted that there is no "official flat earth map" and various Flat Earthers seem to think the world looks like:
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Maps/Map_zpsbx8yebjh.png)
Flat Earth Ice Wall Map
   
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Maps/Altmap_zpsfpjri3lv.png)
Bipolar Flat Earth
   
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Maps/Azimuthal%20Map%20Northern%20Hemiplane_zpsbbjawftx.png)
Map Northern Hemiplane, DET
   
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Maps/Azimuthal%20Map%20Southern%20Hemiplane_zpsgjjzrxi4.png)
Map Southern Hemiplane

All of these maps are proposed by various quite active flat earthers.
The left is of course, is the (un)official "Ice Wall Map",
the next is the "Bipolar Map" "pushed" by Tom Bishop who is very prominent on TFES.org, and
the two on the right are the North and South Hemiplanes of JRoweskeptic's Dual Earth Theory.
Then of course, you should ask Sandokhan what the earth looks like!

And have a look at this wonder from Intikam (though he's changed it numerous times since then - inconsistencies  ???
(https://i.imgsafe.org/c943d47b7b.png)
İntikam's, "New Map Suggest"

You claim that the Flat Earth Society has no such problem as Australia "moving"! It can't even find even find Australia in the first place!

Yet, you have the audacity to claim that the Globe has inconsistencies when the Flat Earth Societies don't even know the even have a rough layout of the continents.

;D You really are a Joker.  ;D

Please tell us your version of this "consistent" Flat Earth map!  ::) ::) Which map?  ::) ::)

If the arguments for the Flat Earth are so weak that it needs your deception to prop it up, it's doomed.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Badxtoss on November 17, 2016, 07:45:42 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
you're right.  It's a giant island floating on pontoons out in the ocean.  It moves so much it's actually hard to schedule flights there.  You can check out flight times.  Sometimes a flight from LA takes 12 hours, sometimes it takes 4.  Once it actually bumped into the Philippines.  That's actually what started WW2, in the pacific anyway

I mean truly, is RET even alive anymore?
Sorry my sarcasm went over your head.  I'll be more careful in the future.
In fact, as has been explained to you, the entire plate Australia sits on is moving, so, no it would not sink first.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on November 17, 2016, 09:07:34 PM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
you're right.  It's a giant island floating on pontoons out in the ocean.  It moves so much it's actually hard to schedule flights there.  You can check out flight times.  Sometimes a flight from LA takes 12 hours, sometimes it takes 4.  Once it actually bumped into the Philippines.  That's actually what started WW2, in the pacific anyway

I mean truly, is RET even alive anymore?
Sorry my sarcasm went over your head.  I'll be more careful in the future.
In fact, as has been explained to you, the entire plate Australia sits on is moving, so, no it would not sink first.

It's not on pontoons but is instead floating on a plate. So you were sarcastic before but are serious now about continental dinnerware?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: disputeone on November 17, 2016, 09:44:21 PM
You are even terrible at trolling, Narc, really.

(https://s13.postimg.org/djd0qcjdv/images_38.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/djd0qcjdv/)

Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on November 17, 2016, 09:55:24 PM
It's not on pontoons but is instead floating on a plate. So you were sarcastic before but are serious now about continental dinnerware?

What about answering the numerous requests for evidence of the ludicrous claims in tour OP.

But, the Narc never gives evidence, just sets up his Strawmen,  then wonder of wonders, demolishes them.

The Globe doesn't need that work that way. It has a model of the earth, moon, sun and planets that all hangs together.

We can use honest arguments, not the sort of things you get up to.

Yes, as disputeone says you even do your obvious trolling with expertise. Didn't your studies for the MsSM include the Trolling 101 module?
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: frenat on November 18, 2016, 05:14:47 AM
You are even terrible at trolling, Narc, really.

(https://s13.postimg.org/djd0qcjdv/images_38.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/djd0qcjdv/)
I get the feeling he only posts here when drunk.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Badxtoss on November 18, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
That's the absurd part - the assumption by RE'ers that Australia is floating away. I'm blown away that you assert that as fact, it would sink long before it would float across the map...
you're right.  It's a giant island floating on pontoons out in the ocean.  It moves so much it's actually hard to schedule flights there.  You can check out flight times.  Sometimes a flight from LA takes 12 hours, sometimes it takes 4.  Once it actually bumped into the Philippines.  That's actually what started WW2, in the pacific anyway

I mean truly, is RET even alive anymore?
Sorry my sarcasm went over your head.  I'll be more careful in the future.
In fact, as has been explained to you, the entire plate Australia sits on is moving, so, no it would not sink first.

It's not on pontoons but is instead floating on a plate. So you were sarcastic before but are serious now about continental dinnerware?
;D I really do love how you take the art of being dense to a whole new level.  Kudos man.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on November 18, 2016, 05:46:39 PM
You are even terrible at trolling, Narc, really.

(https://s13.postimg.org/djd0qcjdv/images_38.jpg)
From Postimage (https://postimg.org/image/djd0qcjdv/)
I get the feeling he only posts here when drunk.

Look, you are all being terribly unfair to poor Narcberry.
He can only post here when he's out on "parole" and obviously he's broken his parole and is back doing the
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Clip%20Art/jailhouse_rock_by_tygertailzz_zpsvde1nlnl.jpg)
We probably won't see him again till he is successful with his new application (or can bribe the administrators).
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: Cartog on November 24, 2016, 06:15:09 PM
It's easy to complain that Australia has been moved from its position on a 16th century map (where it hardly appears) to a 21th century map, but let's be a bit more adult about it.

Let's look at maps made within the last 50 years or so, since the introduction of electronic timepieces and satellite positioning and the like, when precise longitude and latitude can be measured (not long before 1960 it was discovered that, owing to an old fashioned timepiece the latitude of Greenland's coast had been mismeasured, with the result that a correction made with an Accutron watch gave that island a couple of thousand more square miles) and we see no movement in Australia.  The longitude and latitude of its coastal points line up appropriately with the rest of the map.

On the other hand, the FEers have yet to nail down The Edge - y'know, The Dropping-Off of the flat surface of the Flat Earth.  It should be in every direction if you go far enough.  We get a lot of lame excuses of why they haven't found it, but none of these are convincing any more, especially since it is obvious that Antarctica does not surround the rim of the planet.  It is the FE map that hasn't been convincing.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on November 25, 2016, 12:22:30 AM
The Narc might reply when he's finishes his "Jailhouse Rock", or wherever he disappears to every so often.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on November 26, 2016, 12:33:18 AM
It's easy to complain that Australia has been moved from its position on a 16th century map (where it hardly appears) to a 21th century map, but let's be a bit more adult about it.

Let's look at maps made within the last 50 years or so, since the introduction of electronic timepieces and satellite positioning and the like, when precise longitude and latitude can be measured (not long before 1960 it was discovered that, owing to an old fashioned timepiece the latitude of Greenland's coast had been mismeasured, with the result that a correction made with an Accutron watch gave that island a couple of thousand more square miles) and we see no movement in Australia.  The longitude and latitude of its coastal points line up appropriately with the rest of the map.

On the other hand, the FEers have yet to nail down The Edge - y'know, The Dropping-Off of the flat surface of the Flat Earth.  It should be in every direction if you go far enough.  We get a lot of lame excuses of why they haven't found it, but none of these are convincing any more, especially since it is obvious that Antarctica does not surround the rim of the planet.  It is the FE map that hasn't been convincing.

They just officially moved Australia just recently.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on November 26, 2016, 01:11:34 AM
It's easy to complain that Australia has been moved from its position on a 16th century map (where it hardly appears) to a 21th century map, but let's be a bit more adult about it.

Let's look at maps made within the last 50 years or so, since the introduction of electronic timepieces and satellite positioning and the like, when precise longitude and latitude can be measured (not long before 1960 it was discovered that, owing to an old fashioned timepiece the latitude of Greenland's coast had been mismeasured, with the result that a correction made with an Accutron watch gave that island a couple of thousand more square miles) and we see no movement in Australia.  The longitude and latitude of its coastal points line up appropriately with the rest of the map.

On the other hand, the FEers have yet to nail down The Edge - y'know, The Dropping-Off of the flat surface of the Flat Earth.  It should be in every direction if you go far enough.  We get a lot of lame excuses of why they haven't found it, but none of these are convincing any more, especially since it is obvious that Antarctica does not surround the rim of the planet.  It is the FE map that hasn't been convincing.

They just officially moved Australia just recently.
You have no evidence for your stupid claims of miles of movement or even your 600 feet of movement!

And "they" have not "officially moved Australia" one inch. Australia might be moving at the  ;D rapid rate  ;D of 2.7 inches a year, but "they" aren't doing it.

If that's what you think, no wonder you are a Flat Earther,  you wouldn't recognise the truth if it jumped up and bit you.

The Flat Earth Society couldn't place Australia within miles, what a joke! You can't even decide which of about four maps the so-called Flat Earth might look like.

Don't you think it's a huge waste your valuable time worrying about a little bit of movement of Australia when you have so many massive problems with you own maps?

Still, it's good for laughs, and you are making it look more ridiculous with every post.
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: narcberry on November 26, 2016, 11:45:18 AM
You could always try google.

http://www.livescience.com/56868-australia-moves-seasonally-with-water.html (http://www.livescience.com/56868-australia-moves-seasonally-with-water.html)
Title: Re: RET keeps moving Australia on the map, why?
Post by: rabinoz on November 26, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
You could always try google.

http://www.livescience.com/56868-australia-moves-seasonally-with-water.html (http://www.livescience.com/56868-australia-moves-seasonally-with-water.html)
In case you didn't bother reading my post, here in is again with citical bits highlighted more!

They just officially moved Australia just recently.
You have no evidence for your stupid claims of miles of movement or even your 600 feet of movement!

And "they" have not "officially moved Australia" one inch. Australia might be moving at the  ;D rapid rate  ;D of 2.7 inches a year, but "they" aren't doing it.

If that's what you think, no wonder you are a Flat Earther,  you wouldn't recognise the truth if it jumped up and bit you.

The Flat Earth Society couldn't place Australia within miles, what a joke! You can't even decide which of about four maps the so-called Flat Earth might look like.

Don't you think it's a huge waste your valuable time worrying about a little bit of movement of Australia when you have so many massive problems with you own maps?

Still, it's good for laughs, and you are making it look more ridiculous with every post.


What I said was that "they" have not moved Australia, and no-one has moved Australia or any other country.

Now, just to prove that you are not pulling rubbish out of you head please provide the sources for your claims in your OP that
"Every few years, RET keeps changing the position of Australia on their map. 600 feet this way, a couple miles this way, sometimes moving it hundreds of miles - just to try to keep it accurate with the round earth theory.
Your exact words!
Now, once again give your sources or just admit that you fabricated your whole story.

I have explained the 600 feet, but you have never justified your claims. Or as they say in the classics, put up, or shut up.