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Title: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Evan on September 14, 2016, 06:30:39 PM: Hi everyone, this will be my first post on your forums. My name is Evan.

I am your average everyday, what-you-would-call-globularist. I recently stumbled across your forums, have been going through some of your press releases, and find myself fascinated by the physical explanations you've devised here to explain a flat-world model. Clearly the stereotypes of flatists as uneducated and ignorant are simply not true. While I remain unconvinced, I respect the extremes you've gone to in pursuing one of the most fundamental principles of science, questioning everything. In the interest of intellectual honesty, I'd like to know more about your stance.

I'm particularly intrigued by the school of thought completely rejecting the idea of gravity, instead postulating an upward acceleration of earth at 9.8 m/s^2. Gravity always did strike me as kind of an oddball among the four fundamental forces in modern physics. We can identify the fundamental particles involved in the strong/weak nuclear forces and in electromagnetism, but not gravity. To date, we have not yet found any sort of "graviton".

I'll get to my point now. I was reading your FAQ and came across this:

"The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity doesn't exist or at least exists in a greatly diminished form than is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind. This acceleration does not violate physics and according to Einstein's theory of special relativity, we can accelerate forever without reaching the speed of light."

Okay, so Socratic method here: unless I'm misunderstanding you or physics, I'm not sure I'm really buying the "constant acceleration" bit. Sure, according to relativity, you can accelerate indefinitely without reaching the speed of light, but you can't accelerate at a CONSTANT rate of 9.8 m/s^2 indefinitely, could you? Your acceleration would have to decrease eventually as you get closer to the speed of light? Would this not eventually reduce the perceived weight of humans standing on Earth's surface?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: SpJunk on September 14, 2016, 06:40:57 PM: They say you could accelerate indefinitely at constant rate.

But they have much bigger problem that that.

At poles g is 9.832 m/s², at equator is 9.78, at the top of Mount
Everest is 9.77, at the altitude of 1000 kilometers is 7.33.

On top of that, there are further variations of g of up to
plus or minus 300 mGal based on ground configuration.

Upward acceleration would give uniform g .

Unless you sneak gravity back to the model in the form of "celestial gravity". :)
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Evan on September 14, 2016, 06:48:16 PM: Ah yes I misunderstood relativity. Admittedly, my understanding of physics is a bit rusty. From an Earth frame of reference, the acceleration would be constant, but to a stationary observer, it would asymptotically approach c, varying. I think.

To your point though SpJunk, I hadn't thought of that, that G varies by physical location on the Earth.

In global theory, the Earth pulls at you, and that variation makes sense. But in flat theory, or at least the version I'm referring to, the whole object that is Earth is hypothetically accelerating as one unit to replace gravity. So those variations shouldn't be possible, if I'm understanding you correctly.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 14, 2016, 07:29:11 PM: I have yet to notice my weight being different at the poles than at the equator or at the top of mount Everest or even 1000 km in altitude. I am quite sure you have not either, mr. SpJunk. You are just spouting off some little information that you heard and take in faith for absolute truth. You are no better than the religious fanatics that take every word in scripture as absolute fact out of faith. Perhaps you could keep your religious dogma out of this serious "reality" discussion?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 14, 2016, 08:29:17 PM: I actually easuredyself atop a mountain (mount crested butte) and I was 3 pounds lighter then the day before, and this wasnafter eating a pretty big meal. Not very scientific, but it is more evidence.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 14, 2016, 08:40:55 PM: You honestly expect us to belief that you weighed 3 pounds lighter on top of a mountain? This must be a really huge mountain, considering you should weigh only a couple of milligrams lighter at the top of mount Everest.

Edit: Oh, I see now that it was satire. I did not catch the "mount crested butte" at first. ;)
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Evan on September 14, 2016, 10:24:47 PM: Well, I suppose weighing your own body at the poles/equator wouldn't really be a good indicator anyway... there are a ton of other factors going on like water weight fluctuations of an individual and weight loss through excretion that would invalidate the reliability of that method.

Though if you took an object of constant weight... like a dumbbell or something, for example.

In a globular model with the framework for gravitation, it should weigh differently based on your position on the planet.

Again, my understanding of the flat-world model is that the notion of gravity is replaced by the upward acceleration of the Earth disc. Since we're doing away with gravity, we in turn don't need to concern ourselves with a "center of gravity" of Earth that exerts force on an object on its surface. So for the purpose of this thought experiment, I guess it also doesn't matter whether you subscribe to the infinite horizontal plane model of flat Earth that bisects the Universe (which even with gravity, would have no center of gravity), or the finite-sized disc rimmed by Antarctica (which with gravity, would have its center of gravity duh at the center, pulling on objects with greater force the closer to the center you are, the least pull towards the center being at Antarctica). Either way, I suppose you would expect an object to weigh the same regardless of your physical location on the structure, right?

So if that object's weight does vary then based on your position, that would pose an interesting problem?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 14, 2016, 10:27:53 PM: I know jroa, which is why I said it wasn't very scientific.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Master_Evar on September 15, 2016, 12:22:22 AM: If you would be alright with spending some money, you could order two scales. One from a country near any of the poles (northern countries are closer to the north pole that southern are to the south pole, so probably a northern country) and one from an equatorial country. Then weigh the same object in both scales. They should be calibrated differently, so you should get slightly different readings. Assuming there is no globular conspiracy by scale-manufacturers, and that you choose two scales of reasonable quality, this would be pretty good evidence that gravitational strength varies across the earth.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 15, 2016, 01:11:07 AM: Quote from: jroa on September 14, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
I have yet to notice my weight being different at the poles than at the equator or at the top of mount Everest or even 1000 km in altitude.
You really get around, don't you? ::)
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on September 15, 2016, 08:11:49 PM: Shalom and welcome to the trenches.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: SpJunk on September 16, 2016, 11:02:24 AM: Quote from: jroa on September 14, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
I have yet to notice my weight being different at the poles than at the equator or at the top of mount Everest or even 1000 km in altitude. I am quite sure you have not either, mr. SpJunk. You are just spouting off some little information that you heard and take in faith for absolute truth. You are no better than the religious fanatics that take every word in scripture as absolute fact out of faith. Perhaps you could keep your religious dogma out of this serious "reality" discussion?

Nice little prayer, Mr Jroa.

Gravimeter can show you the difference in g at any altitude.

Now, does each of us has to buy own personal gravimeter?
Or we can exchange information?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 18, 2016, 09:40:34 PM: hello there i am flat earther and the earth is not accelerating upwards...... that is a shill lie to dissuade people from looking into the flat earth...... why things fall and what not is because the simple laws of buoyancy and density...... and before you say "if the flat earth society are shill why are on their forums" and i say cause it is the most active forums to post flat earth info and news......
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: SpJunk on September 18, 2016, 09:57:05 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 18, 2016, 09:40:34 PM
hello there i am flat earther and the earth is not accelerating upwards...... that is a shill lie to dissuade people from looking into the flat earth...... why things fall and what not is because the simple laws of buoyancy and density...... and before you say "if the flat earth society are shill why are on their forums" and i say cause it is the most active forums to post flat earth info and news......

What is pulling dense matter under buoyant?
Or dense mater just goes there on its own?
How dense matter overcomes inertia?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 19, 2016, 04:03:51 AM: Quote from: SpJunk on September 16, 2016, 11:02:24 AM
Quote from: jroa on September 14, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
I have yet to notice my weight being different at the poles than at the equator or at the top of mount Everest or even 1000 km in altitude. I am quite sure you have not either, mr. SpJunk. You are just spouting off some little information that you heard and take in faith for absolute truth. You are no better than the religious fanatics that take every word in scripture as absolute fact out of faith. Perhaps you could keep your religious dogma out of this serious "reality" discussion?

Nice little prayer, Mr Jroa.

Gravimeter can show you the difference in g at any altitude.

Now, does each of us has to buy own personal gravimeter?
Or we can exchange information?

I am sure that is what they would like for you to believe.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Evan on September 19, 2016, 04:12:34 AM: Are you trying to say that things "sink" in the air because they are denser than air? And that things lighter than air rise due to buoyancy?

You realize that both of these behaviors in classic physics still rely on the concept of gravity?

After some Googling -- Formula Buoyancy Force (B) = ρ V g Where, ρ = Density of Fluid. V = Displaced Volume. g = 9.8 (gravity). When an object weighs less than the total volume of fluid it can displace, it will settle down until the upward buoyant force equals the weight and floats partially submerged.

So if you want to explain this using buoyancy and density, then you must also accept the reality of gravity. But, once you accept the reality of gravity, you have a new problem: gravity tends to produce roughly spherical objects. If gravity is real, then the earth would naturally be rounded.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 07:57:41 AM: Prepare to facepalm..
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: AYellowCat on September 19, 2016, 08:39:09 AM: I honestly never hated the theory. And I thought the people were educated and scientists...

But no, they're everyday people with their reasoning more as an excuse to break away the fact they are wrong. Until people fly a rocket and prove wrong. I'll be more than happy to become a flat earther and save the white flag
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: RocksEverywhere on September 19, 2016, 09:26:54 AM: One of the main issues with the upward acceleration is that it does not explain the geoid; differences of gravity over the surface of the earth. If the moon would not exist, the surface of the ocean would be pretty bumpy on the large scale. Take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoid
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 09:46:41 AM: Quote from: Evan on September 19, 2016, 04:12:34 AM
Are you trying to say that things "sink" in the air because they are denser than air? And that things lighter than air rise due to buoyancy?

You realize that both of these behaviors in classic physics still rely on the concept of gravity?

After some Googling -- Formula Buoyancy Force (B) = ρ V g Where, ρ = Density of Fluid. V = Displaced Volume. g = 9.8 (gravity). When an object weighs less than the total volume of fluid it can displace, it will settle down until the upward buoyant force equals the weight and floats partially submerged.

So if you want to explain this using buoyancy and density, then you must also accept the reality of gravity. But, once you accept the reality of gravity, you have a new problem: gravity tends to produce roughly spherical objects. If gravity is real, then the earth would naturally be rounded.

they do not rely on gravity you are just told they are and you believe cause your a sheeple.......
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 01:52:21 PM: Or we believe it because we can scientifically prove it. Your choice.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 02:17:22 PM: Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 01:52:21 PM
Or we believe it because we can scientifically prove it. Your choice.

where is the proof?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 03:09:25 PM: Gravitometers. You can literally measure gravity.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 03:49:30 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: Evan on September 19, 2016, 04:12:34 AM
Are you trying to say that things "sink" in the air because they are denser than air? And that things lighter than air rise due to buoyancy?

You realize that both of these behaviors in classic physics still rely on the concept of gravity?

After some Googling -- Formula Buoyancy Force (B) = ρ V g Where, ρ = Density of Fluid. V = Displaced Volume. g = 9.8 (gravity). When an object weighs less than the total volume of fluid it can displace, it will settle down until the upward buoyant force equals the weight and floats partially submerged.

So if you want to explain this using buoyancy and density, then you must also accept the reality of gravity. But, once you accept the reality of gravity, you have a new problem: gravity tends to produce roughly spherical objects. If gravity is real, then the earth would naturally be rounded.

they do not rely on gravity you are just told they are and you believe cause your a sheeple.......

If you really want people to take you seriously, start with correct spelling.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: disputeone on September 19, 2016, 04:04:35 PM: You mean correct grammar?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 04:11:10 PM: Yes indeed. Spelling "your" instead of "you're", must be addressed if one wants to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM: Quote from: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
Yes indeed. Spelling "your" instead of "you're", must be addressed if one wants to be taken seriously.

i dont care if your immature fuck ugly penguin....
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: disputeone on September 19, 2016, 05:04:54 PM: A lot of posters here speak english as a second or third language for that reason I try to judge posts on content rather than grammar.

FE scientist watch the personal attacks on the upper fora.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 05:35:29 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
Yes indeed. Spelling "your" instead of "you're", must be addressed if one wants to be taken seriously.

i dont care if your immature fuck ugly penguin....
If my immature fuck ugly penguin does what? You didn't finish the sentence.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Charming Anarchist on September 19, 2016, 05:53:51 PM: Quote from: Evan on September 14, 2016, 06:30:39 PM
Hi everyone, this will be my first post on your forums. My name is Evan.
The Upward Acceleration of the Earth Lie(tm) is bullshit promoted by liars, shills and controlled opposition to discredit serious inquiry and to make honest people look crazy.

Do I need to read the rest of your opening post?? Did I miss anything?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 06:35:45 PM: Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
Yes indeed. Spelling "your" instead of "you're", must be addressed if one wants to be taken seriously.

i dont care if your immature fuck ugly penguin....
If my immature fuck ugly penguin does what? You didn't finish the sentence.

kid dont talk......
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: boydster on September 19, 2016, 07:11:12 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
Yes indeed. Spelling "your" instead of "you're", must be addressed if one wants to be taken seriously.

i dont care if your immature fuck ugly penguin....
If my immature fuck ugly penguin does what? You didn't finish the sentence.

kid dont talk......

Just putting the pieces together here... So, what you were saying was, "I don't care if your immature fuck ugly penguin kid don't talk"?

Does the upward acceleration of the Earth (or lack thereof) have something to do with the powers that his mute penguin love-child holds over the planet?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: SpJunk on September 19, 2016, 07:27:08 PM: Quote from: jroa on September 19, 2016, 04:03:51 AM
Quote from: SpJunk on September 16, 2016, 11:02:24 AM
Quote from: jroa on September 14, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
I have yet to notice my weight being different at the poles than at the equator or at the top of mount Everest or even 1000 km in altitude. I am quite sure you have not either, mr. SpJunk. You are just spouting off some little information that you heard and take in faith for absolute truth. You are no better than the religious fanatics that take every word in scripture as absolute fact out of faith. Perhaps you could keep your religious dogma out of this serious "reality" discussion?

Nice little prayer, Mr Jroa.

Gravimeter can show you the difference in g at any altitude.

Now, does each of us has to buy own personal gravimeter?
Or we can exchange information?

I am sure that is what they would like for you to believe.

To believe what?
That we have to have own gravimeter each?
Or that we can exchange info?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 07:59:51 PM: Quote from: disputeone on September 19, 2016, 05:04:54 PM
A lot of posters here speak english as a second or third language for that reason I try to judge posts on content rather than grammar.

FE scientist watch the personal attacks on the upper fora.
I will totally agree with you on that. But if you claim to be a scientist, and fail at 3rd grade grammar, it's hard to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 08:26:17 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
Yes indeed. Spelling "your" instead of "you're", must be addressed if one wants to be taken seriously.

i dont care if your immature fuck ugly penguin....
If my immature fuck ugly penguin does what? You didn't finish the sentence.

kid dont talk......
I'm not. I'm typing into a phone keyboard.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 05:33:41 PM: Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 08:26:17 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 06:35:45 PM
Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 05:35:29 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 19, 2016, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 19, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
Yes indeed. Spelling "your" instead of "you're", must be addressed if one wants to be taken seriously.

i dont care if your immature fuck ugly penguin....
If my immature fuck ugly penguin does what? You didn't finish the sentence.

kid dont talk......
I'm not. I'm typing into a phone keyboard.

stop trying to sound smart cause you dont....
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM: Why are you so consistently hateful and mean on here?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 06:39:50 PM: Quote from: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
Why are you so consistently hateful and mean on here?

why do you still believe you live on a spinning globe when science has proven otherwise??
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Evan on September 20, 2016, 07:06:25 PM: Well this has certainly gone off the rails... Christ you guys are touchy...

I gotta say, based on what I've seen here, I've lost my default level of respect for you flat earth folks based on how you've chosen to represent your beliefs.

I've not seen a single argument from any of you with anything even approaching credibility or rationalism. Each and every reply drips with ad hominem, strawmen, and/or bald assertions of tin foil hat conspiracy with no evidence. And you have the gall to call other people shills and sheeple? The hypocrisy is staggering.

If the upward acceleration of the earth is such a fabricated discredit to your beliefs as you've stated, then perhaps you shouldn't have it in an FAQ people like myself are inevitably going to read when attempting to give a fair shake to your point of view. In short, get your story together, damn...

Flat Earth Scientist, I find your chosen name deliciously ironic. Your behavior in this thread constitutes the complete antithesis of scientific inquiry and intellectual honesty. Cursing? Really? Grow up and argue your point with facts and data if you want to be taken seriously and deserve the title of "scientist". You say it's been scientifically proven the Earth is flat? Show me. Where is the proof? I'm not being cheeky here, I'm honestly asking.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on September 20, 2016, 07:14:00 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
Why are you so consistently hateful and mean on here?

why do you still believe you live on a spinning globe when science has proven otherwise??

Because I've yet to see science to prove otherwise?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 07:37:58 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
Why are you so consistently hateful and mean on here?

why do you still believe you live on a spinning globe when science has proven otherwise??
My own observations tell me. And I don't believe in pseudoscience.
Now, I've answered your question, your turn.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 20, 2016, 08:19:34 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
Why are you so consistently hateful and mean on here?

why do you still believe you live on a spinning globe when science has proven otherwise??
WHAT SCIENCE?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 09:00:06 PM: Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 20, 2016, 08:19:34 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
Why are you so consistently hateful and mean on here?

why do you still believe you live on a spinning globe when science has proven otherwise??
WHAT SCIENCE?

flat earth science.....
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Evan on September 20, 2016, 09:13:17 PM: Yeah origami, ya dummy.

Flat Earth Science, of course.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 20, 2016, 09:29:25 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 20, 2016, 08:19:34 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 20, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
Quote from: IonSpen on September 20, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
Why are you so consistently hateful and mean on here?

why do you still believe you live on a spinning globe when science has proven otherwise??
WHAT SCIENCE?

flat earth science.....
Show me.

Oh wait, you can't.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Charming Anarchist on September 21, 2016, 04:19:19 PM: Quote from: Evan on September 20, 2016, 07:06:25 PM
I gotta say, based on what I've seen here, I've lost my default level of respect for you flat earth folks based on how you've chosen to represent your beliefs.
On a scale from 1 to 10, where would you rank flat earth folks on your respectometer?
Where do you rank your best friend?
Where do you rank your mother?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: rabinoz on September 21, 2016, 06:14:06 PM: Quote from: Evan on September 20, 2016, 09:13:17 PM
Yeah origami, ya dummy.

Flat Earth Science, of course.
What? "Flat Earth" and "Science" in the same sentence?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 21, 2016, 06:38:17 PM: Quote from: rabinoz on September 21, 2016, 06:14:06 PM
Quote from: Evan on September 20, 2016, 09:13:17 PM
Yeah origami, ya dummy.

Flat Earth Science, of course.
What? "Flat Earth" and "Science" in the same sentence?

what globe and science in the same sentence?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 21, 2016, 09:18:09 PM: You have yet to show anybody a single example of an experiment to prove your findings. When someone asks, you just run away to another thread.

Prove the earth is flat.

You can't.

When will you realize this?

If it is impossible to prove, while there are millions of proofs of the alternative, the alternative is correct.

Still waiting for a single proof of a flat earth that anyone can repeat.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 21, 2016, 09:43:08 PM: Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 21, 2016, 09:18:09 PM
You have yet to show anybody a single example of an experiment to prove your findings. When someone asks, you just run away to another thread.

Prove the earth is flat.

You can't.

When will you realize this?

If it is impossible to prove, while there are millions of proofs of the alternative, the alternative is correct.

Still waiting for a single proof of a flat earth that anyone can repeat.

i sent to proofs i million times you just refuse to believe.......
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 21, 2016, 09:44:19 PM: No you have not.

You have asserted hind El reds of times, but ever actually provided any proof of anything

Prove the earth is flat.

See? You can't.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: rabinoz on September 21, 2016, 10:36:00 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 21, 2016, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 21, 2016, 09:18:09 PM
You have yet to show anybody a single example of an experiment to prove your findings. When someone asks, you just run away to another thread.

Prove the earth is flat.

You can't.

When will you realize this?

If it is impossible to prove, while there are millions of proofs of the alternative, the alternative is correct.

Still waiting for a single proof of a flat earth that anyone can repeat.

i sent to proofs i million times you just refuse to believe.......

Flat Earthers can't count either! Mr "Flat Earth Scientist", how long would it take you th count to "i million"?

It takes a long time to even count to ONE million, let alone give ONE MILLION proofs.

Mind you I have not seen ONE that is not easy to refute, so we're still counting!
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: RocksEverywhere on September 22, 2016, 01:07:06 AM: If "i million" refers to the imaginary unit "i" then maybe his proof is as imaginary as the number.

Ohhhh snap.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: rabinoz on September 22, 2016, 05:06:52 AM: Quote from: RocksEverywhere on September 22, 2016, 01:07:06 AM
If "i million" refers to the imaginary unit "i" then maybe his proof is as imaginary as the number.

Ohhhh snap.

Gee, I missed that one, bring an Electrical Engineer I more usually "j" as a similar operator - one that rotated a phase vector 90°.
"j" is sort of similar to "i", in a way that makes pure mathematicians blanch.

:P Maybe Electrical Engineers use "j" rather than "i" is that "i" is rather small and we might mislay a few! :P

If I told you how ago it was that I worked with things like that it might give my age away.

But, I guess you are stating the obvious. All "i million" of "Flat Earth Scientist's" proofs are "purely imaginary.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 22, 2016, 08:39:07 AM: Quote from: rabinoz on September 21, 2016, 10:36:00 PM
Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 21, 2016, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 21, 2016, 09:18:09 PM
You have yet to show anybody a single example of an experiment to prove your findings. When someone asks, you just run away to another thread.

Prove the earth is flat.

You can't.

When will you realize this?

If it is impossible to prove, while there are millions of proofs of the alternative, the alternative is correct.

Still waiting for a single proof of a flat earth that anyone can repeat.

i sent to proofs i million times you just refuse to believe.......

Flat Earthers can't count either! Mr "Flat Earth Scientist", how long would it take you th count to "i million"?

It takes a long time to even count to ONE million, let alone give ONE MILLION proofs.

Mind you I have not seen ONE that is not easy to refute, so we're still counting!

i million dont even make no sense.......
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 22, 2016, 08:49:59 AM: Then why did you say it?
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: IonSpen on September 22, 2016, 09:23:49 AM: Flat head is a troll.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 22, 2016, 09:36:38 AM: Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 22, 2016, 08:49:59 AM
Then why did you say it?

it is a obvious typo kid we all make them so GET OVER IT
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 22, 2016, 10:03:57 AM: Oh. For a moment there, I thought you use actually taken algebra and knew what "i" meant. But no, I guess it was just a typo.
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: Flat Earth Scientist on September 22, 2016, 10:06:23 AM: Quote from: origamiscienceguy on September 22, 2016, 10:03:57 AM
Oh. For a moment there, I thought you use actually taken algebra and knew what "i" meant. But no, I guess it was just a typo.

it was alegbra i mean i thought you were talking about something else on a different thread.....
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: rabinoz on September 22, 2016, 08:06:20 PM: Quote from: Flat Earth Scientist on September 22, 2016, 08:39:07 AM
i million dont even make no sense.......

So?
All of your pronouncements "dont even make no sense", so how were we supposed to know that this particular "dont even make no sense" was are typo!
We can't read your mind, thank goodness!
Title: Re: Upward Acceleration of the Earth
Post by: UpstartPixel on September 23, 2016, 09:19:38 AM: The earth is not accelerating upward because the resulting Hamiltonian would be unstable. Isn't that obvious?