My dear flatties,
I've recently become a believer. Not too long ago, the subject sparked my interest and I became very curious, asking myself what could be leading people to think that the earth is flat. I was astonished by the information I found. The more I researched, the more "real" it all seemed to me. I've completely lost my interest for conventional astronomy nowadays and I feel deeply cheated and brain washed. It's highly improbable that I'll ever get the chance to, but one of my dreams now is to visit the north and south poles.
I don't think satellites are real, because they are mainly in the thermosphere, which is hot enough to melt titanium. So here is my question, how are high altitude pictures taken? Balloons?
Also, how come certain dishes are directional? As far as I understand it, with a flat earth, radio waves can travel very, very far, but how come some dishes are directed towards the sky? I wonder if we have some kind of radio emitter floating up there.
Thanks for your time!
-Ben
Let's put the thermosphere stuff to bed for a start:
Would someone please explain to me how we learned about the Thermosphere, the Van Allen Belts and much of the information about the ionosphere?
The answer to this is simply that most of the modern data about these regions comes from sounding rockets and satellites, many launched or supplied by NASA.
Now even at "100 kilometers, the air density is about 1/2,200,000 the density on the surface". At 100 km altitude the temperature is little above that at sea-level, yet even here there is not enough air to conduct heat to any object.
This chart indicates how temperature and density (as molecules/m3) vary with altitude.
(http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~cairns/teaching/lecture16/img12.gif)
Figure 16.1: Variations in the density and temperature of Earth's
neutral atmosphere with altitude [Abell, 1982].
From: Earth's Atmosphere (http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/~cairns/teaching/lecture16/node2.html)
So, it is quite clear that where the temperature is so high there is simply too little matter to heat up any object, so these claims of
that the high temperatures in the thermosphere would "melt titanium" are quite baseless.
Then you "wonder if we have some kind of radio emitter floating up there." Certainly, the satellites in geostationary orbit.
If you look where these satellite TV dishes are pointing (from the surface of the Globe!) of it turns out that they all aim at the location of the appropriate satellite over the equator.
Then "how are high altitude pictures taken? Balloons?"
You don't get balloons high enough to take photos of hurricanes like this (hurricanes are huge!):
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IPHJcuXh4aw/maxresdefault.jpg)[/img]
Hurricane Julio seen from the International Space Station (ISS) (http://)
I don't think satellites are real, because they are mainly in the thermosphere, which is hot enough to melt titanium.
Proof?
Thought so.
I can't prove or disprove it :( I say it's hot enough to melt titanium because this is what conventional science teaches, so to me it's a conflicting idea, to think that satellites are at an altitude where temperatures reach 2000 Celsius
Temperatures may reach 2000 C but the heat capacity of the air is so ludicrously low that it wouldn't actually heat any solid object any appreciable amount.
You do know that convection is not the only means of heat transfer, right?
You do know that conduction also requires the presence of fluid material, so the absence of significant matter precludes conduction and convection.
The temperature of the "gases" in the thermosphere has little influence on radiation, the heat sources for that are the sun and the earth, but "outer space" is at an extremely low temperature.
The equilibrium temperature for a satellite is, guess what? Around 15 C! Yes, it's in about the same thermal environment as earth - big deal.
(http://i.stack.imgur.com/SlrzE.png)
From: What's the typical temperature of a satellite orbiting the Earth? (http://space.stackexchange.com/questions/7827/whats-the-typical-temperature-of-a-satellite-orbiting-the-earth)
Any more wise-cracks?