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Title: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on August 31, 2016, 04:02:05 PM
How many people here have heard of this uncanny plan? I was unconvinced of its validity until I realized how easy it could become a reality, if Earth is indeed a flat plane. The need to create a fake space program becomes imperative in establishing the idea that we are but a speck in the universe. With this new outlook implemented in the mind of almost every person, it is much easier to accept the existence of aliens, especially now that we have "landed" on the moon ourselves. If we are actually inside of a type of enclosure, the "firmament", it would stand as an excellent screen for projecting everything from UFOs to the appearance of a godly being. It seems almost too perfect to be a coincidence to me.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bullwinkle on August 31, 2016, 04:52:08 PM
Show me on this doll where the bad man touched you.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on August 31, 2016, 07:02:41 PM
How many people here have heard of this uncanny plan? I was unconvinced of its validity until I realized how easy it could become a reality, if Earth is indeed a flat plane. The need to create a fake space program becomes imperative in establishing the idea that we are but a speck in the universe. With this new outlook implemented in the mind of almost every person, it is much easier to accept the existence of aliens, especially now that we have "landed" on the moon ourselves. If we are actually inside of a type of enclosure, the "firmament", it would stand as an excellent screen for projecting everything from UFOs to the appearance of a godly being. It seems almost too perfect to be a coincidence to me.

Ok, if Sun and Moon are 3000 miles above ground, then "firmament" has to be more than that.
How strong has to be projection beam?
Would it be possible to avoid seeing the beam itself in the air, like you see much weaker projection beams in movie theatres?

And how to avoid distortion by changed angle of view from different parts of the world?

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on August 31, 2016, 07:12:16 PM
How many people here have heard of this uncanny plan? I was unconvinced of its validity until I realized how easy it could become a reality, if Earth is indeed a flat plane. The need to create a fake space program becomes imperative in establishing the idea that we are but a speck in the universe. With this new outlook implemented in the mind of almost every person, it is much easier to accept the existence of aliens, especially now that we have "landed" on the moon ourselves. If we are actually inside of a type of enclosure, the "firmament", it would stand as an excellent screen for projecting everything from UFOs to the appearance of a godly being. It seems almost too perfect to be a coincidence to me.
Just a pity for that theory that the idea that the earth was a Globe was pretty much settled around 2,500 years ago.

So when and where did this great  ;D conspiracy  ;D start.

Must have been well before old Ptolemy's time and must have been in the Islamic world as well, where modern geodetic surveying is said to have started!

An Islamic Astronomer/Mathematician/Geodetic Surveyor named Al-Biruni measured the circumference of the earth (guess HE thought it was a sphere too!) quite accurately way back around 1,000 AD.
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So Exactly how accurate was Biruni ?
With his formula Biruni arrived at the value of the circumference of the earth within 200 miles of the actual value of 24,902 miles, that is less then 1% of error. Biruni's stated radius of 6336 km is also very close to the original value.
From Al-Biruni's Classic Experiment (http://hubpages.com/education/How-to-Determin-the-Radius-of-the-Earth-Al-Birunis-Classic-Experiment)
So, who was this Al-Biruni? Look in Lost Islamic History, AL-BIRUNI: A MASTER OF SCHOLARSHIP (http://lostislamichistory.com/al-biruni/). There are many other references: Muslim Heritage (http://www.muslimheritage.com/article/al-biruni)
  ::) :o ::)  Maybe NASA has infiltrated these Islamic websites as well.  :o ::) :o

And Al-Biruni was by no means the first to study Astronomy in the Medieval Islamic World. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astronomy_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world).

I am referring to these simply because we so often forget that there were great Astronomers, Scientists and Mathematicians in other cultures and while in the so-caled "Dark Ages" in Western Europe there was much going on in the Middle East and India. And many of them simply accepted the earth as a Globe! Look where Algebra (an Arabic word), time and angle measurement originated!

So it looks about 2,400 years to have started Project Blue Beam!
Frankly the whole idea of a conspiracy to hide the shape of the earth is nothing more that self-delusion - then blaming it on NASA is simply ludicrous.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on August 31, 2016, 07:54:49 PM
I believe their technology far exceeds our comprehension, and they have means of creating a realistic false image anywhere they please. If one believes they have the capacity to keep a secret such as the shape of our Earth, then why not instruments capable of deceiving the human eye flawlessly. Such technology would explain the appearances of the I.S.S. and satellites as well. They may be using the firmament itself as a projection point, or they may have the capacity to breach this barrier and project from the outside, although that is not likely the case.
There is a quote "History is written by the victors". I understand that it would be a fallacy to ignore all written history, but one must realize that if in fact we have been lied to all our lives, many other facets of our known reality may also be untruthful. Its funny that Rabinoz brings up the globular Earth being settled 2500 years ago, for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognized, or so were told. Of course, their plans may not have included projection beams and aliens, but then again, they may have known more than we think.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on August 31, 2016, 08:05:16 PM
It still doesn't explain why would 98.4% of world's population conspire to fool the remaining 1.6%.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on August 31, 2016, 08:37:52 PM
I've heard of it but usually from the UFO side, not flat earth. And there are pictures of the ISS in front of the sun which is impossible to fake using holograms and such.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on August 31, 2016, 10:39:52 PM
I believe their technology far exceeds our comprehension, and they have means of creating a realistic false image anywhere they please. If one believes they have the capacity to keep a secret such as the shape of our Earth, then why not instruments capable of deceiving the human eye flawlessly. Such technology would explain the appearances of the I.S.S. and satellites as well. They may be using the firmament itself as a projection point, or they may have the capacity to breach this barrier and project from the outside, although that is not likely the case.
There is a quote "History is written by the victors". I understand that it would be a fallacy to ignore all written history, but one must realize that if in fact we have been lied to all our lives, many other facets of our known reality may also be untruthful. Its funny that Rabinoz brings up the globular Earth being settled 2500 years ago, for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognized, or so were told. Of course, their plans may not have included projection beams and aliens, but then again, they may have known more than we think.
;D The FreeMasons were active in Islamic cultures too?  ;D

If you have to rely on conspiracies to prop up your ideas you've lost the plot!

You claim "for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognized, or so were told"!
Told be whom? You're in the "inner circle" and know these things, I suppose?

I just wonder how it is that the Globe fits with all I see, with my own eyes, yet no Flat Earth Model I have seen yet comes close?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 01, 2016, 12:55:29 AM
If we indeed live in a totally convincing simulation of reality, which is created by some unknown power, that simulation is of a round Earth, since all the tests we throw at the 'simulation' tell us our Earth is round.

So even if we do live 'in the Matrix', that particular Matrix is a simulation of a round Earth, not a flat one.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: fliggs on September 01, 2016, 01:41:15 AM
If we indeed live in a totally convincing simulation of reality, which is created by some unknown power, that simulation is of a round Earth, since all the tests we throw at the 'simulation' tell us our Earth is round.

So even if we do live 'in the Matrix', that particular Matrix is a simulation of a round Earth, not a flat one.

Thats a good point. Even if you thought all of our reality is no more than a projection, it is a projection of a round earth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 01, 2016, 07:43:47 AM
I did not say the Freemasons were active in Islamic cultures. I simply propose that they have written our history books, just as they have written into our minds that the earth is a globe. Another quote - "All that we are is a result of what we have thought". If one was able to control our thoughts, they would control who we are in essence. We do live in a controlled matrix, but instead of needing to fool all our senses, they need only to fool our minds. In the face of realizing, even if only on a subconscious level, what such a lie may mean, one goes into a state of denial. I call it Jack Sparrow Syndrome, in where, even if one was told the truth, one thinks that such a truth would never ever be told, so it must be false.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 01, 2016, 07:49:27 AM
I believe their technology far exceeds our comprehension
It exceeds yours, that's for sure.

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settled 2500 years ago, for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognized
Officially recognized?  What does this even mean?

Freemasonry started in the 18th century - it certainly wasn't around in pagan, classical Greece.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 01, 2016, 07:51:04 AM
I did not say the Freemasons were active in Islamic cultures. I simply propose that they have written our history books, just as they have written into our minds that the earth is a globe. Another quote - "All that we are is a result of what we have thought". If one was able to control our thoughts, they would control who we are in essence. We do live in a controlled matrix, but instead of needing to fool all our senses, they need only to fool our minds. In the face of realizing, even if only on a subconscious level, what such a lie may mean, one goes into a state of denial. I call it Jack Sparrow Syndrome, in where, even if one was told the truth, one thinks that such a truth would never ever be told, so it must be false.

So... there is no evidence of a conspiracy. There is nothing actually suggesting a conspiracy. So for all intents and purposes, the world acts just the way it seems to act and all tests we throw at it show that the world is the way it is (round)

So... serious question here:

If the illusion is perfect and it does not affect our lives at all because the illusion is perfect and whatever we want to within the framework of the "illusionary" laws of physics can in fact be done, why do you think there is a conspiracy?

To rephrase: let's suppose cats are in fact not real. They are a shared illusion, projected into our brain by aliens. The illusion is so purrfect that every fake cat is always there where it should be according to our laws of physics and permanence. So cats, although not at all there, appear to be there, we are actually feeling they are there, and we interact with them as if they are there. Oh and they wreck our couches. Just like if they were there.

What would be the point to say 'cats are not real' even if it was some sort grand alien illusion?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 01, 2016, 03:23:08 PM
Apparently speaking the truth has become a null point. Using the cat scenario logic stated by Omega, someone could run around saying cats are not real and everyone would ignore him, even if in fact he was telling the truth. I find this humorous as this is most likely the case on this very forum. Is not the truth an important point? Would that not change your outlook on cats?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 01, 2016, 03:33:41 PM
Apparently speaking the truth has become a null point. Using the cat scenario logic stated by Omega, someone could run around saying cats are not real and everyone would ignore him, even if in fact he was telling the truth. I find this humorous as this is most likely the case on this very forum. Is not the truth an important point? Would that not change your outlook on cats?

You miss the point.

How do you know there is a conspiracy if there is no evidence and the illusion is perfect?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 01, 2016, 05:05:37 PM
Apparently speaking the truth has become a null point. Using the cat scenario logic stated by Omega, someone could run around saying cats are not real and everyone would ignore him, even if in fact he was telling the truth. I find this humorous as this is most likely the case on this very forum. Is not the truth an important point? Would that not change your outlook on cats?
You have provided no evidence that this marvellous technology exists, and has existed since around 500 BC, so why should we take it seriously?

There is an almost unlimited amount of hearsay, conjecture and just plain fiction presented on the internet as fact, why sould we treat this any differently?

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 01, 2016, 05:52:37 PM
The only place I have ever seen "proof" of a globe Earth was on the internet or TV, both of which are places known for disinformation and lies, just as has been stated by Rabinoz. The lack of evidence elsewhere is evidence itself.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: ChildofFather on September 01, 2016, 06:46:49 PM
I've heard of it but usually from the UFO side, not flat earth. And there are pictures of the ISS in front of the sun which is impossible to fake using holograms and such.

I don't doubt there is a space station...it is at low earth orbit, they can't get far enough away to take an actual picture of earth, but they get far enough away to fool the masses.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: bbarreto on September 01, 2016, 07:41:27 PM
I've heard of it but usually from the UFO side, not flat earth. And there are pictures of the ISS in front of the sun which is impossible to fake using holograms and such.

I don't doubt there is a space station...it is at low earth orbit, they can't get far enough away to take an actual picture of earth, but they get far enough away to fool the masses.

The question is, is it possible to orbit a flat earth? IMO, in order for something to orbit the earth, the earth would have to be round, and gravity would have to be real. And I say "would", because I'm a flattie.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 01, 2016, 08:59:15 PM
I've heard of it but usually from the UFO side, not flat earth. And there are pictures of the ISS in front of the sun which is impossible to fake using holograms and such.

I don't doubt there is a space station...it is at low earth orbit, they can't get far enough away to take an actual picture of earth, but they get far enough away to fool the masses.
Who's arguing with "I don't doubt there is a space station...it is at low earth orbit"?
It is in Low Earth Orbit and too close to take photos of the whole earth, but it is plenty high enough to show the curve of the earth.

And there are plenty of satellites in geostationary orbit that regularly send back photos of a whole hemisphere.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 01, 2016, 10:05:53 PM
The only place I have ever seen "proof" of a globe FLAT Earth was on the internet, which is a place known for disinformation and lies, just as has been stated by Rabinoz.

Fixed that for you

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The lack of evidence elsewhere is evidence itself.

HOW CAN LACK OF EVIDENCE BE EVIDENCE?!!!!!

There is a total lack of evidence that shoes are sentient. Are you suggesting that there is a grand conspiracy to suppress all knowledge about thinking shoes? ON WHAT GROUNDS, SIR, ON WHAT GROUNDS?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 01, 2016, 11:26:45 PM
The only place I have ever seen "proof" of a globe Earth was on the internet or TV, both of which are places known for disinformation and lies, just as has been stated by Rabinoz. The lack of evidence elsewhere is evidence itself.
Have you ever gone to the library? Or just out and observe and try to fit all observable phenomena to flat earth model? Or what are the other places where you can find "proof" about flat earth if not internet and TV only?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 02, 2016, 09:15:15 AM
I think it is important to realize that the topic on hand includes the murder of a large population of Earth. Even if I am wrong, does this not warrant further investigation and discussion? Would not a flying miniature prop of  satellites or the ISS provide photographable evidence of "space" to those who were previously told what and where they were? I find it interesting that most with contrary views seem to gravitate toward things already in "space" as their absolute debunking tool, instead of simple things like not being able to see objects at extreme distances due to the curve of their Earth. One must understand why a lie like this would be beneficial to those who created it, before realizing the magnitude of our situation. If in fact we are in an enclosed flat plane, the need for population control becomes greatly intensified. Project Blue Beam becomes a necessity, and a much more viable plan, when viewed through the perspective of one who knows the true nature of our reality.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 02, 2016, 09:31:00 AM
You heard a cool term on the Internet and now you parrot conspiracy theory. Poor poor sheeple.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 02, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
Are you paid to be here, Omega? Which part of my statement did you find cool exactly? The murder of innocent people? That sounds accurate based on your rude language use with other posters on this site. In addition, why do you deem it necessary to degrade people you deem unknowledgeable?
Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool arguing with him?
Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant, this post is merely for discussion of the topic at hand, which I believe to be serious. Suppose I am wrong and it is no more than a silly idea, then it will become apparent in time and things continue to "spin". On the flip side, if I am correct, and this topic is ignored, then it may be the last thing one ignores.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 02, 2016, 10:58:54 AM

Are you paid to be here, Omega?

Only by Satan.

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Which part of my statement did you find cool exactly?

I think YOU find it incredibly cool because you feel like you are uncovering this whole conspiracy all by yourself. You feel so clever because of that. And all without a shred of proof.

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The murder of innocent people?

Are you talking about the victims of the so-called conspiracy? Show me the bodies, then we'll shed some tears together.

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That sounds accurate based on your rude language use with other posters on this site.

I am an acquired taste. I'm actually a really nice person with a low tolerance for willful ignorance.

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In addition, why do you deem it necessary to degrade people you deem unknowledgeable?

I always start out nice and try to explain stuff, answer questions. But when I notice someone isn't asking a question to learn, but just to prove 'he knows better' *despite the evidence*, well yeah, I get a bit testy.

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Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool arguing with him?

First, don't mangle Star Wars quotes.

Second: you call me a fool and argue with me, so...

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Whether I am right or wrong is irrelevant,

Well, you're wrong about a global conspiracy. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

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this post is merely for discussion of the topic at hand, which I believe to be serious.

I once knew a guy who seriously believed his teeth where conspiring against him. Why should I take things serious that are insane and proven wrong?

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Suppose I am wrong and it is no more than a silly idea, then it will become apparent in time and things continue to "spin".

I am trying to save you that time. You are in fact clinging to an extremely silly idea.

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On the flip side, if I am correct, and this topic is ignored, then it may be the last thing one ignores.

Dun dun Duuuuuun!!!!!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 02, 2016, 06:28:51 PM
Let me sum up NASA's Project Blue Beam, for those who do not wish to look it up.

Step one is to eliminate all known religions by creating evidence that our interpretations of scriptures is entirely wrong. Stonehenge will be found to have massive underground chambers revealing the "true" nature of our holy scriptures. Other ancient monuments and locations may have similar hoaxed findings.

Step two is to stage an apocalyptic scenario, where God or gods are artificially displayed upon the heavens. Many may take such an occurrence as the end times, for most spiritual books state some kind of "return of the creator".

Step three is to broadcast radio signals that cause extreme depression, clouded thoughts, and overall sick feelings. This technology is already in the hands of some militaries.

Step four is to convince the Earths population that an alien invasion is about to happen, most likely using the same technology implemented to stage the return of God or gods. Of course the invasion will never proceed, as a second human-loving alien race will appear to save the day, but only if human kind submits to them and follows their ideals. With utter destruction as man kinds only alternative, our fates becomes sealed.

In the wake of such an event, creating a totalitarian new world order, and exterminating those who think otherwise would become simple.

Also I changed one word from the original Star Wars quote. I would say following, but Omega is not following me physically or otherwise. I would hardly call that mangled, since the concept is the same.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: sokarul on September 02, 2016, 06:30:53 PM
lol
ok dude.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: bbarreto on September 02, 2016, 06:38:14 PM
Here's a video of the sky perfectly divided by a straight line. Evidence of hologram technology being projected on the sky maybe?

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 02, 2016, 08:13:41 PM
Let me sum up NASA's Project Blue Beam, for those who do not wish to look it up.

Quote from: supposedly Albert Einstein
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

And I thought Flat Earthers argued vehemently against satellites?
Quote from: Serge Monast (1994)
NASA's Project Blue Beam
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The Big Space Show in the Sky
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These computers were fed, as well, with the languages of all human cultures and their meanings. The dialects of all cultures of all cultures have been fed into the computers from satellite transmissions. The Soviets began to feed the computers with objective programs like the ones of the new messiah. It also seems that the Soviets - the new world order people - have resorted to suicidal methods with the human society by allocating electronic wavelengths for every person and every society and culture to induce suicidal thoughts if the person doesn't comply with the dictates of the new world order.

There are two different aspects of step two.

The first is the 'space show.' Where does the space show come from? The space show, the holographic images will be used in a simulation of the ending during which all nations will be shown scenes that will be the fulfillment of that which they desire to verify the prophecies and adversary events.

These will be projected from satellites onto the sodium layer about 60 miles above the earth. We see tests every once in a while, but they are called UFOs and "flying saucers" sightings.

Are you really claiming that they are "allocating electronic wavelengths for every person"? What, 7,000,000,000 separate channels? How many kilohertz wide is each channel? And just how are they going to "to induce suicidal thoughts" - put an implant in everyone's brain - it gets stupider by the minute.

Do you mind if I call it complete balderdash!

You can read whatever science fiction you like but why push it here - trying to sell a book or something?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 02, 2016, 09:56:19 PM
Wow, I am glad someone finally asked.
After a while, I thought no one was putting the pieces together.
Kindly direct your attention to this quote posted by Rabinoz.
Einstein - “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Upon close inspection with a flat Earth viewpoint, one wonders if he was being literal in that statement.
Perhaps he knew about the limitations of our true reality, inside of an enclosed barrier.
In short, I am here because I feel like I have been lied to, I simply seek truth.
Now, suppose Serge simply did not know the entire truth, and his understanding of "satellite" was skewed.
They may have been no different than a normal radio transmission, only, bounced off the firmament, to a dish.
In fact, I seem to recall people bouncing radio waves off the moon; perhaps its just our enclosure...
Maybe he was engulfed in the same lie most of our world is, oblivious to the truth.
Everything else he states is quite explained, and viable to become a reality.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: fliggs on September 02, 2016, 10:36:13 PM
Let me sum up NASA's Project Blue Beam, for those who do not wish to look it up.

Step one is to eliminate all known religions by creating evidence that our interpretations of scriptures is entirely wrong. Stonehenge will be found to have massive underground chambers revealing the "true" nature of our holy scriptures. Other ancient monuments and locations may have similar hoaxed findings.

Step two is to stage an apocalyptic scenario, where God or gods are artificially displayed upon the heavens. Many may take such an occurrence as the end times, for most spiritual books state some kind of "return of the creator".

Step three is to broadcast radio signals that cause extreme depression, clouded thoughts, and overall sick feelings. This technology is already in the hands of some militaries.

Step four is to convince the Earths population that an alien invasion is about to happen, most likely using the same technology implemented to stage the return of God or gods. Of course the invasion will never proceed, as a second human-loving alien race will appear to save the day, but only if human kind submits to them and follows their ideals. With utter destruction as man kinds only alternative, our fates becomes sealed.

In the wake of such an event, creating a totalitarian new world order, and exterminating those who think otherwise would become simple.

Also I changed one word from the original Star Wars quote. I would say following, but Omega is not following me physically or otherwise. I would hardly call that mangled, since the concept is the same.

I think even disputeone would say that you are crazy.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 03, 2016, 12:29:07 AM
Wow, I am glad someone finally asked.
After a while, I thought no one was putting the pieces together.
Kindly direct your attention to this quote posted by Rabinoz.
Einstein - “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
Upon close inspection with a flat Earth viewpoint, one wonders if he was being literal in that statement.
Perhaps he knew about the limitations of our true reality, inside of an enclosed barrier.
In short, I am here because I feel like I have been lied to, I simply seek truth.
Now, suppose Serge simply did not know the entire truth, and his understanding of "satellite" was skewed.
They may have been no different than a normal radio transmission, only, bounced off the firmament, to a dish.
In fact, I seem to recall people bouncing radio waves off the moon; perhaps its just our enclosure...
Maybe he was engulfed in the same lie most of our world is, oblivious to the truth.
Everything else he states is quite explained, and viable to become a reality.

Instead of relying on your "recall" with "In fact, I seem to recall people bouncing radio waves off the moon" you could research the topic and you might find:
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Lunar Distance, Radar
An experiment was conducted in 1957 at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory that used the echo from radar signals to determine the Earth-Moon distance. Radar pulses lasting 2 µs were broadcast from a 50 ft diameter radio dish. After the radio waves echoed off the surface of the Moon, the return signal was detected and the delay time measured. From that measurement, the distance could be calculated. In practice, however, the signal-to-noise ratio was so low that an accurate measurement could not be reliably produced.

The experiment was repeated in 1958 at the Royal Radar Establishment, in England. Radar pulses lasting 5 µs were transmitted with a peak power of 2 megawatts, at a repetition rate of 260 pulses per second. After the radio waves echoed off the surface of the Moon, the return signal was detected and the delay time measured. Multiple signals were added together to obtain a reliable signal by superimposing oscilloscope traces onto photographic film. From the measurements, the distance was calculated with an uncertainty of 1.25 km.

These initial experiments were intended to be proof-of-concept experiments and only lasted one day. Follow-on experiments lasting one month produced a mean value of 384402±1.2 km, which was the most accurate measurement of the lunar distance at the time.
From Lunar distance (astronomy) Radar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_distance_(astronomy)#Radar)

And there were laser's that could reach the moon in 1962 - yes even before the lunar landings.
Quote from: Wikipedia
Lunar Laser Ranging experiment
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The first successful tests were carried out in 1962 when a team from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology succeeded in observing laser pulses reflected from moon's surface using a laser with a millisecond pulse length. Similar measurements were obtained later the same year by a Soviet team at the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory using a Q-switched ruby laser. Greater accuracy was achieved following the installation of a retroreflector array on July 21, 1969, by the crew of Apollo 11, and two more retroreflector arrays left by the Apollo 14 and Apollo 15 missions have also contributed to the experiment. Successful lunar laser range measurements to the retroreflectors were first reported by the 3.1 m telescope at Lick Observatory, Air Force Cambridge Research Laboratories Lunar Ranging Observatory in Arizona, the Pic du Midi Observatory in France, the Tokyo Astronomical Observatory, and McDonald Observatory in Texas.

Not only the moon's distance, but distance to Venus has been measured directly by radar. Take a look at:
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To See the Unseen, - Chapter Two - Fickle Venus
On 10 March 1961, a month before inferior conjunction, the Goldstone radars were pointed at Venus. The first signals completed the round-trip of 113 million kilometers in about six and a half minutes. During the 68 seconds of electronic signal integration time, 1 of 7 recording styluses on Goldstein's instrument deviated significantly from its zero level and remained at the new level.
From: SP-4218 To See the Unseen, Chapter Two - Fickle Venus (http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4218/ch2.htm), full document: SP-4218 To See the Unseen. (http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4218/sp4218.htm)

Now we know that even on the Flat Earth model, Venus at its closest approach to the Earth must be considerably closer the sun. After all, we regularly get transits of Venus across the sun.

Hence to Sun must certainly be further away than Venus' 113 million kilometers.

Where's this firmament again?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 03, 2016, 02:31:07 AM
If you really think all this is true, you will have no trouble answering the following questions:


Let me sum up NASA's Project Blue Beam, for those who do not wish to look it up.

How do you know about any NASA projects called Blue Beam, how do you know A) if such a project exists and B) what that project would be called if it did exist?

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Step one is to eliminate all known religions by creating evidence that our interpretations of scriptures is entirely wrong.

How do you know what the steps are and why they are taken? What reason do you have to believe such steps exist, other than someone on the internet saying so?

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Stonehenge will be found to have massive underground chambers revealing the "true" nature of our holy scriptures.

How do you know about things that not yet happened? How do you know about any chambers below Stonehenge? Are there any? What evidence do you have?

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Other ancient monuments and locations may have similar hoaxed findings.
Again: simple question, HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE NOT YEY HAPPENED?

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Step two is to stage an apocalyptic scenario, where God or gods are artificially displayed upon the heavens. Many may take such an occurrence as the end times, for most spiritual books state some kind of "return of the creator".

I could just make fun of this, but let's ask a logical question:

If God would appear in the sky, how would you know if she is real or not?

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Step three is to broadcast radio signals that cause extreme depression, clouded thoughts, and overall sick feelings. This technology is already in the hands of some militaries.

How do you know this would be step three?
Do you have evidence this technology exists?
Which military has this tech?
How do you know this?

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Step four is to convince the Earths population that an alien invasion is about to happen, most likely using the same technology implemented to stage the return of God or gods. Of course the invasion will never proceed, as a second human-loving alien race will appear to save the day, but only if human kind submits to them and follows their ideals. With utter destruction as man kinds only alternative, our fates becomes sealed.

If 'they' just made God appear, why would they need make aliens appear?

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In the wake of such an event, creating a totalitarian new world order, and exterminating those who think otherwise would become simple.

Why would that be simple? Because everyone is busy watching a fake god fight a fake alien mothership?

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Also I changed one word from the original Star Wars quote. I would say following, but Omega is not following me physically or otherwise. I would hardly call that mangled, since the concept is the same.

Just keep your paws of Star Wars, okay? You don't mess with holy texts.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 03, 2016, 07:57:38 AM
WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/15320/20140912/stonehenge-secret-exposed-by-hi-tech-underground-scanning-vast-complex-of-archaeological-monuments-discovered.htm
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 03, 2016, 08:02:24 AM
WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/15320/20140912/stonehenge-secret-exposed-by-hi-tech-underground-scanning-vast-complex-of-archaeological-monuments-discovered.htm

What has this got to do with your claim?

And why don't you answer my questions? Is it because answering would mean *shock, horror* that you'd have to *THINK*?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 03, 2016, 08:04:45 AM
WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/15320/20140912/stonehenge-secret-exposed-by-hi-tech-underground-scanning-vast-complex-of-archaeological-monuments-discovered.htm

Mate you are not interested in the truth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 03, 2016, 09:14:00 AM
"This project has revealed that the area around Stonehenge is teeming with previously unseen archaeology and that the application of new technology can transform how archaeologists and the wider public understand one of the best-studied landscapes on Earth," Vincent Gaffney, of the University of Birmingham, said.

I did not know that the University of Birmingham upheld those who told lies...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 03, 2016, 09:22:33 AM
"This project has revealed that the area around Stonehenge is teeming with previously unseen archaeology and that the application of new technology can transform how archaeologists and the wider public understand one of the best-studied landscapes on Earth," Vincent Gaffney, of the University of Birmingham, said.

I did not know that the University of Birmingham upheld those who told lies...

My point is you are not particularly interested in what is true.    You are most likely the kind of person who blindly goes along with something in the bible or on a youtube video.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 03, 2016, 09:37:54 AM
How would that be any different than blindly following school textbooks and NASA videos?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 03, 2016, 09:52:27 AM
How would that be any different than blindly following school textbooks and NASA videos?

It would be stupid in my book.   But again you are not interested in what is true about me.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 03, 2016, 09:54:49 AM
How would that be any different than blindly following school textbooks and NASA videos?

Why don't you answer my questions?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 03, 2016, 11:02:37 AM
Why wont you answer mine?
After all, I asked them first, and have mostly been ridiculed and mocked.
Keep in mind, some of your answers are in the text I have previously posted, others, you have answered yourself.
Exactly why some wish to ignore this truth comes down to the factor of fear, I think.
Unless one wishes to ignore it and simply confuse others.
Perception of our reality can change ones thought process.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 03, 2016, 12:14:53 PM
Perception of our reality can change ones thought process.

Yes but you have to be nearing mental illness to think the sun is rotating in circles above the Earth when you only have to go australia or new zealand to see it rises and sets in the South.   I lived in NZ for 17 years.  Flat earth belief is based in blind ignorance of the deepest possible kind.   If you go down this road you will be wasting years of the best years of your life in fantasy.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 03, 2016, 12:34:08 PM
Why wont you answer mine?
After all, I asked them first, and have mostly been ridiculed and mocked.
Keep in mind, some of your answers are in the text I have previously posted, others, you have answered yourself.
Exactly why some wish to ignore this truth comes down to the factor of fear, I think.
Unless one wishes to ignore it and simply confuse others.
Perception of our reality can change ones thought process.


Where is your evidence?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 03, 2016, 05:02:50 PM
I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 03, 2016, 09:13:34 PM
I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.

All we are saying here is that we are evidence based.  We do not just blindly believe something because it is in a book or on youtube or some person tells us what to believe.

I know the Sun is not rotating above the Earth because I saw the Sun setting in the southwest, and not one single flat earther has ever given me an explanation for that.  I have though been repeatedly called a liar and a shill because I saw that.   Additionally nobody disputes there is a line on a map created by the Sun which on that day rises in the East and sets in the west and is directly overhead at noon.  Think about it.

Flat Earth is a silly idea that must reject the most basic evidence a human being can observe with their own eyes.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 03, 2016, 11:57:17 PM
I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.

You refuse to answer my very simple question (where is the evidence for project blue beam) because you don't have any evidence.

I also think that bothers you because you feel too embarrassed to actually admit that.

And that is the reason why you deflect and try to play the victim.

You have no evidence and you are an absolute fool for believing in project blue beam without it.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 04, 2016, 01:30:05 AM
Your logic is invalid, as text and NASA videos are exactly what I blindly followed.
Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Username on September 04, 2016, 01:33:54 AM
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!
Well put.

I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.
The average globularist resorts far too often on their cantrip phrases when confronted with the truth. Over and over again they will say incoherent phrases to save themselves the trouble of realizing what they know is wrong.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 04, 2016, 01:35:55 AM
Your logic is invalid, as text and NASA videos are exactly what I blindly followed.
Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!

The ONLY reason you know of 'project blue beam' is because you read something about that on a website.

You have no evidence, just a story that sounds cool to you and gives you the feeling you star in some sort of scifi thriller.

That is why you don't answer simple questions. You don't have any answers. You believe in a fairy tale. It's no different than believing Star Wars is real.

Well, it's actually worse. Star Wars is more plausible.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 04, 2016, 01:36:46 AM
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!
Well put.

I have a feeling like no matter what I say to that, you will only repeat it over and over again.
The average globularist resorts far too often on their cantrip phrases when confronted with the truth. Over and over again they will say incoherent phrases to save themselves the trouble of realizing what they know is wrong.

Don't tell me *you* believe in Project Blue Beam, John?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 04, 2016, 02:06:06 AM
Your logic is invalid, as text and NASA videos are exactly what I blindly followed.
Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!

>>Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.

Have you understood my comment?   What is an imperfect solar loop??

>>Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!

You have not understood my question.  The line on the map is a representation of something we can see with our own eyes.     Flatties draw the line incorrectly even on your otherwise incorrect maps.    Surely you can manage to describe correctly the most famous line in the world?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Username on September 04, 2016, 02:09:32 AM
Not exactly as its presented, no. I do tend to stay away from the conspiracy and religious side of things though. On the other hand, there is certainly a conspiracy of sorts that is creating a religion around NASA, scientific orthodoxy, and in general dull-witted coherency to whatever facebook tells you science says this week.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 04, 2016, 02:10:27 AM
I assure you that this does not make me feel cool.
The ONLY reason I "know" Earth is a sphere is through the same sources I know about Blue Beam.
I would answer any pertinent questions, had you asked any.
So that brings me to the point that you still consistently make light of plans to murder.
Really, I find it disturbing; you dodge any point I make, when only trying to be serious.
Exactly why must you respond if you believe what you say?
As far as I'm concerned, you just want me to stop posting.
Logic brought me to that conclusion, unlike some globe theories.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 04, 2016, 02:32:18 AM
I assure you that this does not make me feel cool.

So you are a lier too?

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The ONLY reason I "know" Earth is a sphere is through the same sources I know about Blue Beam.

That is an absurd argument. If I learn that London exists from the Harry Potter books, that does not mean magic exists.

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I would answer any pertinent questions, had you asked any.

You refused to answer all my questions. All of them.

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So that brings me to the point that you still consistently make light of plans to murder.

Show me evidence of these murders.

If you know for a fact people gonna die, you are morally BOUND to go to the police. Otherwise you are an active accomplice.

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Really, I find it disturbing; you dodge any point I make, when only trying to be serious.

I have adressed all your points almost LINE FOR LINE.

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Exactly why must you respond if you believe what you say?

I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR EVIDENCE IS!

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As far as I'm concerned, you just want me to stop posting.

No I want you to POST EVIDENCE OF YOUR CLAIMS

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Logic brought me to that conclusion, unlike some globe theories.

Ironically, that last sentence is completely void of meaning.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 04, 2016, 04:11:19 AM
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Even the sun setting in an irregular fashion is explained through an imperfect solar loop.
Seeing a line on a "map" means NOTHING when the map is in question!

Where is this "sun setting in an irregular fashion"?
I have seen no "irregular setting". Sure, it doesn't fit the Flat Earth Theory, but that doesn't make it irregular.

What "line on a 'map'" are you talking about? If it's the sun rising well South of East and setting well South of West in the Southern Hemisphere,
that's not just a line on a map, that's what I see out my back door (the sunrise bit, I see the sunset out the front door) every morning in summer!

And I thought Flat Earthers were so keen on first hand evidence.

Do you wonder that I'm a bit hard to convince, when what I see with my own eyes gives the lie to much that you claim about the shape of the earth.

And, I don't demand a precisely accurate map, just one that shows the general layout and approximate sizes of continents.
Along, of course, with the general movement of your sun, moon and other celestial bodies.

I would say that without these you don't have a Flat Earth model.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 04, 2016, 12:39:25 PM
Well, I believe Aliveandkicking can answer both of your questions, if you just read previous posts.
As for the flat earth model, you obviously have not done one second of sleuthing.
Keep in mind, just as the oblate spherical pear shaped globe model has its own discrepancies,
Even so do the flat earth models floating about.

Unless I am mistaken, name calling is not scientific. - (directed at Omega)
Please stop it, unless you meant to spell lier, because yes, I lay down sometimes, but no I do not tell lies.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 04, 2016, 01:13:20 PM
Well, I believe Aliveandkicking can answer both of your questions, if you just read previous posts.
As for the flat earth model, you obviously have not done one second of sleuthing.
Keep in mind, just as the oblate spherical pear shaped globe model has its own discrepancies,
Even so do the flat earth models floating about.

Unless I am mistaken, name calling is not scientific. - (directed at Omega)
Please stop it, unless you meant to spell lier, because yes, I lay down sometimes, but no I do not tell lies.

So your anwer means you don't have any evidence for project blue beam and that you admit you only know about it because what some dude wrote on some website.

Thanks for admitting that.

Oh and nobody says the Earth is pear-shaped. It is slightly flattened on the north and south poles. Slightly.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 04, 2016, 01:37:13 PM
Well, I believe Aliveandkicking can answer both of your questions, if you just read previous posts.
As for the flat earth model, you obviously have not done one second of sleuthing.
Keep in mind, just as the oblate spherical pear shaped globe model has its own discrepancies,
Your so-called "oblate spherical pear shaped globe" happens to have
a polar circumference of 40,008 km and
an equatorial circumference of 40,075 km.

That's a difference of about 0.08% either side of the mean circumference of 40,041 km.

Your are being a bit over-dramatic calling that "oblate spherical pear shaped globe"

You claim that the "globe model has its own discrepancies"!

When anyone else has claimed that it has always been their failure to understand some aspect of the globe.

So please list these discrepancies.

Quote from: N30
Even so do the flat earth models floating about.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 04, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
Where exactly in your equation do you define the globe is wider at the south than the north.
Actually, what exactly do you define as a "polar circumference"? Is there not two poles?
Keeping balance in an equation means one must include all factors, so why not two "polar" circumferences?
Even wikipedia says Geodesy cant decide what Earth looks like.

Unless they are lying...
Please, no! Wikipedia cant lie!

Taken from "The Figure Of Earth" Wikipedia Page

"Modern geodesy tends to retain the ellipsoid of revolution and treat triaxiality and pear shape as a part of the geoid figure: they are represented by the spherical harmonic coefficients [(INSERT RIDICULOUS NUMBERS HERE)] respectively, corresponding to degree and order numbers 2.2 for the triaxiality and 3.0 for the pear shape."

I would have included the number in the parenthesis, but my computer did not recognize them...
Check it out for yourself, its under "Complicated Shapes" Yup, to make sure no one understands it but doesn't care.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth

<Compelling evidence of a pear shaped Earth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 04, 2016, 03:35:47 PM
Where exactly in your equation do you define the globe is wider at the south than the north.
Actually, what exactly do you define as a "polar circumference"? Is there not two poles?
Keeping balance in an equation means one must include all factors, so why not two "polar" circumferences?
Even wikipedia says Geodesy cant decide what Earth looks like.

Unless they are lying...
Please, no! Wikipedia cant lie!

Taken from "The Figure Of Earth" Wikipedia Page

"Modern geodesy tends to retain the ellipsoid of revolution and treat triaxiality and pear shape as a part of the geoid figure: they are represented by the spherical harmonic coefficients [(INSERT RIDICULOUS NUMBERS HERE)] respectively, corresponding to degree and order numbers 2.2 for the triaxiality and 3.0 for the pear shape."

I would have included the number in the parenthesis, but my computer did not recognize them...
Check it out for yourself, its under "Complicated Shapes" Yup, to make sure no one understands it but doesn't care.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth

<Compelling evidence of a pear shaped Earth.

Dude, the Earth is an oblate spheroid. It's slightly wider than it is high. The distortion is so slight that pictures just show a sphere.

You can cherry pick all you like, but you have decided to stop reading/listening the moment you got what you wanted.

Oh and STILL no evidence for, what was it now? Project Blue Balls?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: bbarreto on September 04, 2016, 03:41:35 PM
Where exactly in your equation do you define the globe is wider at the south than the north.
Actually, what exactly do you define as a "polar circumference"? Is there not two poles?
Keeping balance in an equation means one must include all factors, so why not two "polar" circumferences?
Even wikipedia says Geodesy cant decide what Earth looks like.

Unless they are lying...
Please, no! Wikipedia cant lie!

Taken from "The Figure Of Earth" Wikipedia Page

"Modern geodesy tends to retain the ellipsoid of revolution and treat triaxiality and pear shape as a part of the geoid figure: they are represented by the spherical harmonic coefficients [(INSERT RIDICULOUS NUMBERS HERE)] respectively, corresponding to degree and order numbers 2.2 for the triaxiality and 3.0 for the pear shape."

I would have included the number in the parenthesis, but my computer did not recognize them...
Check it out for yourself, its under "Complicated Shapes" Yup, to make sure no one understands it but doesn't care.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth

<Compelling evidence of a pear shaped Earth.

Dude, the Earth is an oblate spheroid. It's slightly wider than it is high. The distortion is so slight that pictures just show a sphere.

You can cherry pick all you like, but you have decided to stop reading/listening the moment you got what you wanted.

Oh and STILL no evidence for, what was it now? Project Blue Balls?

Omega, please explain this video.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: bbarreto on September 04, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
PS. this is what "cheap" technology can already do at some mall in Dubai. Now, imagine what classified technology could do.

A lot of our technology is first developed for military purposes (satellites, internet, night vision, etc...), until it reaches a level of obsolescence and is finally used for civilian purposes.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 04, 2016, 03:52:38 PM

Omega, please explain this video.



I can't be sure, but my guess would be very high clouds, a faded trail from an airplane, the shadow of the Earth on the atmosphere or something else I can't readily think of.

I'd say we need more information before we can draw conclusions.

Or... is one video of a line in the sky conclusive proof of a worldwide conspiracy?

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 04, 2016, 03:54:46 PM
PS. this is what "cheap" technology can already do at some mall in Dubai. Now, imagine what classified technology could do.

A lot of our technology is first developed for military purposes (satellites, internet, night vision, etc...), until it reaches a level of obsolescence and is finally used for civilian purposes.



Oh you FOOL!

That's an augmented reality video! The people in the video look at themselves on the screen, where they see the projections that are superimposed on the live video.

THEY DON'T SEE THAT DOLPHIN NEXT TO THEM!

This is like Pokemon Go but slightly more advanced.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: bbarreto on September 04, 2016, 04:01:10 PM
Ok, and how about the first video?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 04, 2016, 04:01:58 PM
A quote- Omega, "the shadow of the Earth on the atmosphere or something else I can't readily think of."
What does that even mean during the day?
Oddly enough you ignore the point of that video, that planes disappeared behind nothing!
Lastly, stop calling people names Omega, its not scientific.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: bbarreto on September 04, 2016, 04:15:36 PM
Also, Omega, what's your take on chem trails?

I think it's related to project blue beam somehow, but even if it wasn't, aren't you the least concerned about the possible health risks involved?



And before you tell me chem trails are a fantasy, and that it's not government sponsored, watch the head of CIA admitting it's real.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: frenat on September 04, 2016, 07:20:11 PM
And before you tell me chem trails are a fantasy, and that it's not government sponsored, watch the head of CIA admitting it's real.


Talking about a possible remedy for a problem not everyone agrees exists is not proof it is happening.
Title: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 04, 2016, 09:49:57 PM
please explain this video.



I am supposing that is early morning.  It is quite dark on the ground.

The video seems real but it could be a spoof by somebody who is familiar with the region who is filming this real event.

The line looks like it could be created by the morning  Sun being obscured by a mountain range where the video maker has positioned themselves either by accident or design so the shot is divided in two so there is a line between them, the mountain range and the Sun.    Usually when you see that kind of thing the line is at an angle and you are not under it.    The aircraft 'dissapearing' is just going from sunlight to shadow.

You can see at the beginning of the video the shadow is rotated slightly clockwise compared to at the end when it is slightly anticlockwise.  Presumably you could calculate how far away the mountain range using that change.  The shadow seems to be moving in the correct direction for it being a shadow where the sun is moving to the right in the northern hemisphere.  Sun goes right shadow moves left.

Probably you can find other videos of something similar but without having the video maker in that exact same position.

Probably if an American expert was asked they can tell us where the shot was taken and when that effect can be seen at that location.    It would only happen there on a few days per year because the sun is never in the same position each day.

So my bet is you have a fairly distant but very high mountain or mountain range and the shadow of the mountain appears on the left side.

It is fairly common to see the shadow of the land travel through the sky fairly quickly when the sun sets on flat land here in Finland, so this is similar but at right angles so the shadow moves much more slowly.

Something somewhat similar here but very cool picture.  "moon rising through the immense shadow of Hawaii's Mauna Kea volcano."

And again the moon is more obvious because the Sun is shining on it

(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1505/moonrisemk_connelley_1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 04, 2016, 11:36:11 PM
Wow, show me a mountain range that can cast a shadow like that.
Actually, please, tell me more about how a shadow can make something vanish during the day.
Keep your eye on the planes in the video, and once they pass that that line they disappear.
Everything you about clockwise and counterclockwise makes no sense whatsoever.

Unless Im mistaken, that line went above and behind the viewers perspective.
Prove to me, even if a shadow from some mountain range "covered" the planes, how that line could appear naturally.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 05, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
What does this mean:

(https://authordylanhearn.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/so-you-think-youre-confused-about-quantum-mechanics-9.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 05, 2016, 12:08:49 AM
Wow, show me a mountain range that can cast a shadow like that.
Actually, please, tell me more about how a shadow can make something vanish during the day.
Keep your eye on the planes in the video, and once they pass that that line they disappear.
Everything you about clockwise and counterclockwise makes no sense whatsoever.

Unless Im mistaken, that line went above and behind the viewers perspective.
Prove to me, even if a shadow from some mountain range "covered" the planes, how that line could appear naturally.

Mate if you shine a light on something you can notice it very much more easily.  If you turn the light out it is much harder to see.

Mountain shadows are hundreds of miles long.

If you look at the shadow of a tree when the sun is behind the tree. the shadow moves to the left as the sun moves to the right.  You can see the angle of the shadow has changed in that video comparing start and end.

0.01 the shadow leans to the right.  By 3:38 it leans to the left. 
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqEjYVaUEAE---D.jpg)

Whatever it is, it is most likely a shadow in my estimation.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 05, 2016, 12:37:41 AM
It actually seems to be my first guess: the shadow of the Earth on the atmosphere.



Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 05, 2016, 12:59:14 AM
It actually seems to be my first guess: the shadow of the Earth on the atmosphere.



It cannot just be the earths shadow in the usual way you see it because in those cases the shadow is at right angles to the sun and moves fairly quickly as viewed from beneath the shadow.   That shadows edge only rotates about 10 degrees in three minutes, and is more or less at 0 degrees to the Sun..   

I think it is a shadow though.   It could be created by clouds or by a solid obstacle like a mountain or plateau
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 05, 2016, 01:30:34 AM


It cannot just be the earths shadow in the usual way you see it because in those cases the shadow is at right angles to the sun and moves fairly quickly as viewed from beneath the shadow.   That shadows edge only rotates about 10 degrees in three minutes, and is more or less at 0 degrees to the Sun..   

I think it is a shadow though.   It could be created by clouds or by a solid obstacle like a mountain or plateau

It would *really* help to know where this video is shot.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 05, 2016, 06:02:04 AM
Another glitch in the matrix

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnNLrthWYAAyGu4.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 05, 2016, 06:11:58 AM
This one enables us to have a bit of insight into what causes these shadows.   The cause in the video could be a high level cloud .  In mountainous regions it is possible to have a totally clear sky apart from one long lenticular cloud which might account for the way one part of the sky is shadowed and the other is sunlit in the video.


(http://contrailscience.com/images/2001sts98plume_nasa.jpg)

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 05, 2016, 06:20:59 AM
https://www.metabunk.org/strange-straight-line-in-the-sky.t7873/

"Yes, looks like a crepuscular/anticrepuscular ray (they're essentially the same thing, just depends which way you are facing!)."


(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/46cb82a95de3aa3a65913eb9a08984ec.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 05, 2016, 09:43:30 AM
https://www.metabunk.org/strange-straight-line-in-the-sky.t7873/

"Yes, looks like a crepuscular/anticrepuscular ray (they're essentially the same thing, just depends which way you are facing!)."


(https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/46cb82a95de3aa3a65913eb9a08984ec.jpg)

Very cool!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 05, 2016, 10:47:24 AM
Wow, ooh ahh, more photos from NASA minions.
Always trying to explain things they cannot with pictures that prove nothing.
Keeping the real truth shrouded in doubt; Post as many pictures as they can to cover it up and keep you guessing.
Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?

Until they can explain that, I am unconvinced.
Please note, Omega even tried to account the line anomaly to the shadow of the earth... during the day...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 05, 2016, 10:59:44 AM
Wow, ooh ahh, more photos from NASA minions.
Always trying to explain things they cannot with pictures that prove nothing.
Keeping the real truth shrouded in doubt; Post as many pictures as they can to cover it up and keep you guessing.
Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?

Until they can explain that, I am unconvinced.
Please note, Omega even tried to account the line anomaly to the shadow of the earth... during the day...

During the night the sun can't throw shadows. Because it is night.  ::)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on September 05, 2016, 01:10:33 PM

Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?


Never heard of this. Videos?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: frenat on September 05, 2016, 01:45:13 PM
Wow, ooh ahh, more photos from NASA minions.
Always trying to explain things they cannot with pictures that prove nothing.
Keeping the real truth shrouded in doubt; Post as many pictures as they can to cover it up and keep you guessing.
Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?

Until they can explain that, I am unconvinced.
Please note, Omega even tried to account the line anomaly to the shadow of the earth... during the day...

So apparently you missed this comment?

Mate if you shine a light on something you can notice it very much more easily.  If you turn the light out it is much harder to see.


Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 05, 2016, 03:41:16 PM
Much harder to see is not invisible.
Also, one side has a lot of clouds, the other has none whatsoever!
Think about it, this has to be a man made phenomenon.
Every natural explanation does not fit the circumstances.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: frenat on September 05, 2016, 04:43:17 PM
Much harder to see is not invisible.
Also, one side has a lot of clouds, the other has none whatsoever!
Think about it, this has to be a man made phenomenon.
Every natural explanation does not fit the circumstances.

With a very distant airplane, much harder to see might as well be invisible.  Have you really never seen an airplane lit up by reflected sunlight?  When the sunlight is blocked by a cloud or it gets to a part of the sky where the angle doesn't reflect it to you anymore, it disappears.

As for clouds, there are not many in the sky period and I DO see some on the shadowed side especially later in the video.

It looks and acts like a shadow.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Woody on September 05, 2016, 04:55:37 PM
So basically N30 is arguing against the existence of large shadows.  I am pretty sure he believes things cast shadows unless that is also a conspiracy.  Maybe all the shadows we see are holograms to fool us.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 05, 2016, 05:10:50 PM
Check the very end of the video and one will see another white object poof into existence. Right next to the line.
Heck, I apologize about the cloud statement.
Even though that does prove it is a shadow as the differences in colors are minimal, and it does not move at all!
Clearly something is amiss.
Kindly explain how swamp gas or a magnetic anomaly created this illusion.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: frenat on September 05, 2016, 05:28:02 PM
Check the very end of the video and one will see another white object poof into existence. Right next to the line.
Heck, I apologize about the cloud statement.
Even though that does prove it is a shadow as the differences in colors are minimal, and it does not move at all!
Clearly something is amiss.
Kindly explain how swamp gas or a magnetic anomaly created this illusion.
Strawman much?  Who said anything about swamp gas or magnetic anomalies?  Why should the shadow move in a short video?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 05, 2016, 09:00:23 PM
I did not realize that the sun pauses for about 4 minutes a day, causing static shadows across the "globe".
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 05, 2016, 09:09:49 PM

Ever wonder why they do not touch on the subject of the planes visually vanishing?

I already gave a perfectly good explanation.

The plane is hard to see without the Sun shining on it.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 05, 2016, 09:11:24 PM
I did not realize that the sun pauses for about 4 minutes a day, causing static shadows across the "globe".

The shadow is moving in the video.   I explained in some detail the direction it is moving.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 05, 2016, 10:44:02 PM
.....I really don't know what to say about this thread... Does anyone have any clue of how many megawatts would be needed to project an entire continent with a "hologram"???

We are humans...not gods...

It seems the heavy conspiracy theorist now days are giving the government and powers to be super human abilities. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 12:20:07 AM
Much harder to see is not invisible.
Also, one side has a lot of clouds, the other has none whatsoever!
Think about it, this has to be a man made phenomenon.
Every natural explanation does not fit the circumstances.

Dude, I am certain you have not even considered a natural cause.

That's the problem with your reasoning. That is the big, fat, painful problem. You start out with the belief that it supports your fiction but never EVER consider that it might have a simpler explanation.

And every evidence that suggests it isn't part of the conspiracy, is automatically part of the conspiracy.

I'd call that a severe symptom of mental illness.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Ski on September 06, 2016, 12:35:29 AM
The number of "mental health specialists" on the board will soon outnumber "astronauts" and "physics teachers".  ::)
Puerile.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Woody on September 06, 2016, 12:53:00 AM
The number of "mental health specialists" on the board will soon outnumber "astronauts" and "physics teachers".  ::)
Puerile.

I'm not a mental health specialist, but anyone truly believing the Earth is flat certainly suffers from some sort of mental problem.

Anything challenging their belief is either part of a conspiracy or just ignored.

Their beliefs contradict each other.  Just look at why one model can not be used to answers questions.

Look how often FE's resort to ad hominem or semantics.  This is something someone does when they become uncomfortable with the evidence provided.

The above is indicative of cognitive dissonance.

   
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 06, 2016, 12:58:30 AM
(https://s11.postimg.org/hpeke8kqb/BB_frame_20.jpg)
(https://s22.postimg.org/jxx0ol4fl/BB_Frame_320.jpg)

Looks pretty much the same to me but, please, do go on about cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 12:59:31 AM
The number of "mental health specialists" on the board will soon outnumber "astronauts" and "physics teachers".  ::)
Puerile.

Answer me a straightforward question, then:

If you say all evidence that does not support your idea must be part of a conspiracy, and that the lack of evidence for such a conspiracy is in fact *proof* of that conspiracy, what do you think that says about your mental state?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 06, 2016, 01:26:33 AM
The number of "mental health specialists" on the board will soon outnumber "astronauts" and "physics teachers".  ::)
Puerile.
Hey you're just pretending - N30 has disappeared down the rabbit hole....
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 01:28:54 AM
(https://s11.postimg.org/hpeke8kqb/BB_frame_20.jpg)
(https://s22.postimg.org/jxx0ol4fl/BB_Frame_320.jpg)

Looks pretty much the same to me but, please, do go on about cognitive dissonance.


Fixed that for you:

(http://i.imgur.com/2nDSGoG.png)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 01:32:53 AM
(https://s11.postimg.org/hpeke8kqb/BB_frame_20.jpg)
(https://s22.postimg.org/jxx0ol4fl/BB_Frame_320.jpg)

Looks pretty much the same to me but, please, do go on about cognitive dissonance.


Fixed that for you:

(http://i.imgur.com/2nDSGoG.png)

Cool can you do it for the same angle of the lamp please.  The line rotates during the video.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 01:42:51 AM
Rotated and enhanced the contrast.

(http://i.imgur.com/fyEJXr7.png)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 01:48:09 AM
Rotated and enhanced the contrast.

(http://i.imgur.com/fyEJXr7.png)

Thanks

So it appears the sun is moving right and there is an obstacle between the sun and the observer.
Title: Re: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: N30 on September 06, 2016, 01:48:43 AM
I am supposing that is early morning.  It is quite dark on the ground.
The video seems real but it could be a spoof by somebody who is familiar with the region who is filming this real event.
You can see at the beginning of the video the shadow is rotated slightly clockwise compared to at the end when it is slightly anticlockwise.  Presumably you could calculate how far away the mountain range using that change.  The shadow seems to be moving in the correct direction for it being a shadow where the sun is moving to the right in the northern hemisphere.  Sun goes right shadow moves left.

WOW! I cant believe what i'm seeing.
Actually the argument was that the line stayed vertical throughout the video!
Proving it is not capable of being the shadow of the sun!
So, Omegas first post proved my point, then he just crops and rotates the image to claim rotation??
Title: Re: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 01:53:31 AM
I am supposing that is early morning.  It is quite dark on the ground.
The video seems real but it could be a spoof by somebody who is familiar with the region who is filming this real event.
You can see at the beginning of the video the shadow is rotated slightly clockwise compared to at the end when it is slightly anticlockwise.  Presumably you could calculate how far away the mountain range using that change.  The shadow seems to be moving in the correct direction for it being a shadow where the sun is moving to the right in the northern hemisphere.  Sun goes right shadow moves left.

WOW! I cant believe what i'm seeing.
Actually the argument was that the line stayed vertical throughout the video!
Proving it is not capable of being the shadow of the sun!
So, Omegas first post proved my point, then he just crops and rotates the image to claim rotation??


What? I lined up the lamp so both images have the same angle.

What I see is that the line moved to the left and rotated. What do you see?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 01:57:18 AM
But seriously, N30 (if that IS your real name), why do yo feel attacked by all this? You show a cool video of something in the sky and there appears to be a number of very natural explanations for it.

Why does that bother you so much?

Why do you find it so annoying that another option exists that does not include a global conspiracy with holographic illusions?
Title: Re: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 02:12:08 AM
I am supposing that is early morning.  It is quite dark on the ground.
The video seems real but it could be a spoof by somebody who is familiar with the region who is filming this real event.
You can see at the beginning of the video the shadow is rotated slightly clockwise compared to at the end when it is slightly anticlockwise.  Presumably you could calculate how far away the mountain range using that change.  The shadow seems to be moving in the correct direction for it being a shadow where the sun is moving to the right in the northern hemisphere.  Sun goes right shadow moves left.

WOW! I cant believe what i'm seeing.
Actually the argument was that the line stayed vertical throughout the video!
Proving it is not capable of being the shadow of the sun!
So, Omegas first post proved my point, then he just crops and rotates the image to claim rotation??

If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame

The line rotates to the left by the time the video is ending with reference to the same traffic sign frame.

Omega and you used a difference reference (the light) and we all can get the same result

The light is clearly rotated in your shot.............accident or by design it does not matter............that line actually did rotate during the video.
Title: Re: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: N30 on September 06, 2016, 02:52:19 AM
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -

What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?
Title: Re: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 03:00:11 AM
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -

What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?

It was good enough for super man.

Up up and away!!!
Title: Re: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 03:00:22 AM
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -

What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?

Please, PLEASE answer my very simple question:

Why do you assume this video shows anything unnatural?
Title: Re: Interesting looking line in the sky
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 03:11:26 AM
"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -

What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?

Please, PLEASE answer my very simple question:

Why do you assume this video shows anything unnatural?

I suppose we have to ask what happens if the illuminati are not controlling the sky, antarctica and the shape of the Earth?    What happens if his life is more or less only his to make and there is nobody frustrating him and preventing him from achieving what he wants?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2016, 03:15:08 AM
I think this thread, as with most conspiracy threads on the site, misses the point entirelly, and by a mile. The question is:
-What is Project Blue Beam?
and
-How do we know its real?
I'd like those questions answered
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 03:28:19 AM
I think this thread, as with most conspiracy threads on the site, misses the point entirelly, and by a mile. The question is:
-What is Project Blue Beam?
and
-How do we know its real?
I'd like those questions answered

The first bit is in the OP: what it is, is the idea that some folks created Project Blue Balls to project holograms in the sky to create a world-wide panic, so as to take over the Earth.



As for why would we assume this to be real? I asked many times.

But N30 (sounds like an alias to me) refuses to answer the simplest question:

Why does he believe Project Blue Balls exists?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2016, 03:42:01 AM
I've skimmed through the thread, but I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 03:45:35 AM
I've skimmed through the thread, but I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth.

Me too!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 06, 2016, 04:29:31 AM
Does anyone not see the issue here???

We are discussing a hologram sky......I mean in Texas we have rolling black outs that happen from too many A.C.s running. Yet a project that would take 100s of megawatts of extra power to pull of (assuming we have the tech to do it which I doubt), the grid would have enough power to spare??

I mean this has to stop somewhere......this is coming from someone whom is not for mainstream thinking in many situations.

But I mean seriously....I thought I had heard alot when I read here dinosaurs made in china, the ISS is a gulf stream (which I suppose is very remotely plausible), and the earth is flat. But now our whole freaking sky is a hologram....

I really am beginning to think the paid shills are people whom start this horse shit. Completely destroys credibility to actual issues that are being covered up. Such easy ammo for dismissal no matter how strong the case. I have said this many times mostly joking, I am starting to wonder if there is any sort of truth to it the more I see.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 04:45:11 AM
Does anyone not see the issue here???

We are discussing a hologram sky......I mean in Texas we have rolling black outs that happen from too many A.C.s running. Yet a project that would take 100s of megawatts of extra power to pull of (assuming we have the tech to do it which I doubt), the grid would have enough power to spare??

I mean this has to stop somewhere......this is coming from someone whom is not for mainstream thinking in many situations.

But I mean seriously....I thought I had heard alot when I read here dinosaurs made in china, the ISS is a gulf stream (which I suppose is very remotely plausible), and the earth is flat. But now our whole freaking sky is a hologram....

I really am beginning to think the paid shills are people whom start this horse shit. Completely destroys credibility to actual issues that are being covered up. Such easy ammo for dismissal no matter how strong the case. I have said this many times mostly joking, I am starting to wonder if there is any sort of truth to it the more I see.

Flat earth as psy ops is common sense.    You and I are now doing the work of the guys who used to hang around on the knowledge based forums ensuring only official history was propagated.   Those guys do not need to be there because we are here.

Additionally the really crazy can be monitored by creating something really crazy and attracting them so they can be identified.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 04:49:09 AM
Does anyone not see the issue here???

We are discussing a hologram sky......I mean in Texas we have rolling black outs that happen from too many A.C.s running. Yet a project that would take 100s of megawatts of extra power to pull of (assuming we have the tech to do it which I doubt), the grid would have enough power to spare??

I'm sure the believers of Project Blue Balls will say 'They' have secret power sources that they keep hidden.

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I mean this has to stop somewhere......this is coming from someone whom is not for mainstream thinking in many situations.

Are you saying what I think you're saying?

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But I mean seriously....I thought I had heard alot when I read here dinosaurs made in china, the ISS is a gulf stream (which I suppose is very remotely plausible), and the earth is flat. But now our whole freaking sky is a hologram....

I really am beginning to think the paid shills are people whom start this horse shit. Completely destroys credibility to actual issues that are being covered up. Such easy ammo for dismissal no matter how strong the case. I have said this many times mostly joking, I am starting to wonder if there is any sort of truth to it the more I see.

OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 06, 2016, 04:52:45 AM
I'm sure the believers of Project Blue Balls will say 'They' have secret power sources that they keep hidden.

  I guess they have tapped to the UA power source.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 06, 2016, 05:20:52 AM
Does anyone not see the issue here???

We are discussing a hologram sky......I mean in Texas we have rolling black outs that happen from too many A.C.s running. Yet a project that would take 100s of megawatts of extra power to pull of (assuming we have the tech to do it which I doubt), the grid would have enough power to spare??

I'm sure the believers of Project Blue Balls will say 'They' have secret power sources that they keep hidden.

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I mean this has to stop somewhere......this is coming from someone whom is not for mainstream thinking in many situations.

Are you saying what I think you're saying?

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But I mean seriously....I thought I had heard alot when I read here dinosaurs made in china, the ISS is a gulf stream (which I suppose is very remotely plausible), and the earth is flat. But now our whole freaking sky is a hologram....

I really am beginning to think the paid shills are people whom start this horse shit. Completely destroys credibility to actual issues that are being covered up. Such easy ammo for dismissal no matter how strong the case. I have said this many times mostly joking, I am starting to wonder if there is any sort of truth to it the more I see.

OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...



Although it is tough to tell, I think you are being condescending here...I don't see why that would be hard to believe. There are actually conspiracies, the government and people in power are not our friends, they don't have our interest in their heart, and if it meant advancing their cause we are more expendable than cow manure.

The biggest and easiest weapon used again alternative thinking is discrediting the people and ideas to mainstream so nothing can blossum. What would be a better tactic than releasing some bafoons to either act insane, or say the absolute dumbest dribble imagined? That way there is always endless supply of material to draw from so ignorance can be easily shown. "Oh just those crazy conspiracy theorist at it again, now take your pill and listen to what we tell you".....I don't see this as a stretch at all.

Completely shuts down all legitimacy to mainstream when there is actual evidence and Merit with ease.

I'm sure the believers of Project Blue Balls will say 'They' have secret power sources that they keep hidden.

  I guess they have tapped to the UA power source.

This made me chuckle...

Flat earth as psy ops is common sense.    You and I are now doing the work of the guys who used to hang around on the knowledge based forums ensuring only official history was propagated.   Those guys do not need to be there because we are here.

Additionally the really crazy can be monitored by creating something really crazy and attracting them so they can be identified.

This is interesting
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 05:30:40 AM

Although it is tough to tell, I think you are being condescending here...

Extremely condescending. And I don't mind explaining that to you. You have a lot to learn.

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I don't see why that would be hard to believe.

*alarm bells going off*

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There are actually conspiracies, the government and people in power are not our friends, they don't have our interest in their heart, and if it meant advancing their cause we are more expendable than cow manure.

I'd say that depends on the government. And I'd say: show me proof of specific conspiracies before you hand-wave and make vague statements about non-descript dark forces doing untold things.

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The biggest and easiest weapon used again alternative thinking is discrediting the people and ideas to mainstream so nothing can blossum.

First: citation needed.
Second: if someone can prove their claim, it's not 'alternative thinking'. It's 'proving something exists'. If you can't prove a conspiracy exists, it's madness to believe in it. Hiding behind "yeah, well I am an alternative thinker" without providing any evidence of your thinking, does not give you more credibility but less.

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What would be a better tactic than releasing some bafoons to either act insane, or say the absolute dumbest dribble imagined?

A tactic for what? To hide another conspiracy of which we know nothing and for which we also have no evidence?

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That way there is always endless supply of material to draw from so ignorance can be easily shown. "Oh just those crazy conspiracy theorist at it again, now take your pill and listen to what we tell you".....I don't see this as a stretch at all.

Ever heard of Woodward and Bernstein? They discovered an actual conspiracy. And they proved it existed. Nobody called them crazy.

All you have to do to be taken seriously, is provide evidence.

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Completely shuts down all legitimacy to mainstream when there is actual evidence and Merit with ease.

Show me the evidence!

I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 05:31:56 AM
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...

We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq.  We all should know the brits and americans created a coup d'etat in 1953 in Iran because they nationalised a british oil company.   

Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.   
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 05:41:03 AM
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...

We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq.  We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.

Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.   

I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.

The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 05:43:16 AM
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...

We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq.  We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.

Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.   

I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.

The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.

Sure but you were the one making condescending remarks about conspiracies
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 05:44:03 AM
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...

We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq.  We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.

Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.   


I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.

The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.

Sure but you were the one making condescending remarks about conspiracies

And I stand by them, my young friend.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 05:44:58 AM
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...

We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq.  We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.

Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.   


I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.

The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.

Sure but you were the one making condescending remarks about conspiracies

And I stand by them, my young friend.

Are you really so geriatric?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 05:46:08 AM
OMG you ARE saying what I think you're saying.

You are saying that there is a conspiracy to promote fake conspiracies which are there to hide the true conspiracy...

We all know the brits and yanks conspired to get into iraq.  We all should know the brits and americans killed the prime minister of Iran because he nationalised an oil company.

Then there is some tool or agent ridiculing people who say there are conspiracies at the highest level like we were all born yesterday.   


I find it rather difficult to get from 'governments lie' to 'and therefor there is an international conspiracy which uses holographic projectors to fake the second coming of Christ and an alien invasion to take over the world' without dying of laughter.

The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything.

Sure but you were the one making condescending remarks about conspiracies

And I stand by them, my young friend.

Are you really so geriatric?

 ;D
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 06, 2016, 05:56:03 AM

Although it is tough to tell, I think you are being condescending here...

Extremely condescending. And I don't mind explaining that to you. You have a lot to learn.

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I don't see why that would be hard to believe.

*alarm bells going off*

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There are actually conspiracies, the government and people in power are not our friends, they don't have our interest in their heart, and if it meant advancing their cause we are more expendable than cow manure.

I'd say that depends on the government. And I'd say: show me proof of specific conspiracies before you hand-wave and make vague statements about non-descript dark forces doing untold things.

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The biggest and easiest weapon used again alternative thinking is discrediting the people and ideas to mainstream so nothing can blossum.

First: citation needed.
Second: if someone can prove their claim, it's not 'alternative thinking'. It's 'proving something exists'. If you can't prove a conspiracy exists, it's madness to believe in it. Hiding behind "yeah, well I am an alternative thinker" without providing any evidence of your thinking, does not give you more credibility but less.

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What would be a better tactic than releasing some bafoons to either act insane, or say the absolute dumbest dribble imagined?

A tactic for what? To hide another conspiracy of which we know nothing and for which we also have no evidence?

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That way there is always endless supply of material to draw from so ignorance can be easily shown. "Oh just those crazy conspiracy theorist at it again, now take your pill and listen to what we tell you".....I don't see this as a stretch at all.

Ever heard of Woodward and Bernstein? They discovered an actual conspiracy. And they proved it existed. Nobody called them crazy.

All you have to do to be taken seriously, is provide evidence.

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Completely shuts down all legitimacy to mainstream when there is actual evidence and Merit with ease.

Show me the evidence!

I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.

Ah...I see, you are one of those types. I am sure any type of conversing with you will be a waste on anything other than mainstream ideology. I will attempt just a hair though see where it goes.

Though if your head is in the sand so much to think the government is our friends , then I really think this is useless. As that is the easiest thing to prove out of all I said.

I don't have proof of these shills, nor did I ever say I did. I just said seeing actions of some people makes me wonder. Never stated for a fact. Just looked at the means and motive, it's not far fetched if true. Plus would be a quality tactic if it is true. This is just viewing it from a simple warfare point of view if it were true, not rocket science. Don't even need to think outside the box to understand that.

I also do not hide behind anything, I am typically a neutral thinker. There are only a few conspiracies I went after and acted against, ones that had solid evidence, means and motive. Everything else, I just listen and keep my eyes open until it either falls apart or proven. I am usually the one that says the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just always keep an open mind.

So let's calm down with the assumptions and attempted cheeky low brow insults, they are not a good look for you.

As for actual conspiracies or lies....9/11 and the multiple wars that followed (speaking from an American point of view, I do not know enough about foreign affairs to say 100 percent about some of their "conspiracies")


Oh and as for the media demonizing any form of freedom of thought by using the most insane quacks as examples happens often just watch the news. Also happens on TV and movies. Not rocket science to find such a thing
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 06:34:11 AM

Show me the evidence!

I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.

Ah...I see, you are one of those types.

Yeah, I'm one of those pesky people who likes evidence for outrageous claims.

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I am sure any type of conversing with you will be a waste on anything other than mainstream ideology.

I don't give a darn thing about things being 'mainstream'. I like to see evidence for claims. That's, in fact, not at all mainstream. Look at how many people believe Donald Trump. *That* is mainstream: swallowing lies because they 'feel right'.

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I will attempt just a hair though see where it goes.

And you call me condescending  ;D.

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Though if your head is in the sand so much to think the government is our friends

Never said that.

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, then I really think this is useless. As that is the easiest thing to prove out of all I said.

Again: never said that governments (there are more than one, you know. There are more countries) are inherently trustworthy. I just don't think they are inherently evil either.

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I don't have proof of these shills, nor did I ever say I did.

If you don't have proof, why call them shills?

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I just said seeing actions of some people makes me wonder.

Hate to be a bother, but: what actions? What do you wonder?

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Never stated for a fact. Just looked at the means and motive, it's not far fetched if true. Plus would be a quality tactic if it is true. This is just viewing it from a simple warfare point of view if it were true, not rocket science. Don't even need to think outside the box to understand that.

So... You're just asking questions (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions)...

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I also do not hide behind anything, I am typically a neutral thinker. There are only a few conspiracies I went after and acted against, ones that had solid evidence, means and motive. Everything else, I just listen and keep my eyes open until it either falls apart or proven. I am usually the one that says the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just always keep an open mind.

Keeping an open mind is not the same as suspecting conspiracies without proof. Keeping an open mind is asking for evidence before accepting a claim.

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So let's calm down with the assumptions and attempted cheeky low brow insults, they are not a good look for you.

But I look so cute doing so!

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As for actual conspiracies or lies....9/11 and the multiple wars that followed (speaking from an American point of view, I do not know enough about foreign affairs to say 100 percent about some of their "conspiracies")

You actually think there is even a chance the US government was behind 9/11?

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Oh and as for the media demonizing any form of freedom of thought by using the most insane quacks as examples happens often just watch the news. Also happens on TV and movies. Not rocket science to find such a thing

There is no such thing as 'the media' with some sort of single agenda. I suspect that if someone looks like a quack and acts like a quack, he is in fact a duck pardon, quack.

And there is nothing wrong with exposing quacks.

I do think there are TV shows who love parading idiots around to crank up ratings. It's the only explanation for Donald Trump.

That said, I still haven't heard any concrete evidence *at all* that there is a conspiracy to hide conspiracies behind fake conspiracies.

All I have are your observations, that don't seem to be based on anything substantial.

You seem to only have a 'feeling' about all this.

Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have more than a feeling (background chorus: 'more than a feeling!!!) and have actual evidence, I will take you seriously.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 07:24:14 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong.

I tried to do that with you when you posted videos of feathers falling at different speeds to other objects, when from my point of view you appeared to be totally blind.

If you can show me you are able to be corrected I will see you in a different light.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 07:30:58 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong.

I tried to do that with you when you posted videos of feathers falling at different speeds to other objects, when from my point of view you appeared to be totally blind.

If you can show me you are able to be corrected I will see you in a different light.

My point has always been that in a vacuum, feathers fall at the same speed as bowling balls.

If that's not what you mean, I am honestly at a loss here.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 12:30:46 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.

I tried to do that with you when you posted videos of feathers falling at different speeds to other objects, when from my point of view you appeared to be totally blind.

If you can show me you are able to be corrected I will see you in a different light.

My point has always been that in a vacuum, feathers fall at the same speed as bowling balls.

If that's not what you mean, I am honestly at a loss here.


You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling. 

You produced at least one video where the claimed result did not happen.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 12:35:07 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong.

I tried to do that with you when you posted videos of feathers falling at different speeds to other objects, when from my point of view you appeared to be totally blind.

If you can show me you are able to be corrected I will see you in a different light.

My point has always been that in a vacuum, feathers fall at the same speed as bowling balls.

If that's not what you mean, I am honestly at a loss here.


You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling. 

You produced at least one video where the claimed result did not happen.

I honestly think we then got our signals crossed. You can't tell the speed by just looking, you need something to measure it.

If i came off like an idiot, then I am sorry. It wan't what I meant.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 06, 2016, 01:19:23 PM
You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling. 

 I guess it was similar with me but I didn't claim that I can measure the speed of objects but that I can distinguish if one object reaches endpoint sooner than other. Only you was unable to understand that.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 01:28:38 PM
You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling. 

 I guess it was similar with me but I didn't claim that I can measure the speed of objects but that I can distinguish if one object reaches endpoint sooner than other. Only you was unable to understand that.

The point I was making was that I am considering myself an impartial observer.     I am not going to take sides here even if it means other people think I am a flat earther or stupid or whatever.   It was interesting to see how much hate I got from some people for daring to question what they had said.    I cannot remember what we were saying though.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 06, 2016, 01:33:44 PM
You kept claiming you could tell what speed objects were falling. 

 I guess it was similar with me but I didn't claim that I can measure the speed of objects but that I can distinguish if one object reaches endpoint sooner than other. Only you was unable to understand that.

The point I was making was that I am considering myself an impartial observer.     I am not going to take sides here even if it means other people think I am a flat earther or stupid or whatever.   It was interesting to see how much hate I got from some people for daring to question what they had said.    I cannot remember what we were saying though.
I said that I can make out with eyes which object reaches endpoint first, you kept pushing why I say that I can measure speed with eyes. I didn't get that.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 06, 2016, 01:37:39 PM
Your ability to direct a conversation away from its original topic is astounding.
Exactly when did we start talking about the "vacuum of space"?
Seriously, we were talking about a plan the Government has to control the populace through violence and fear.

Where does a bowling ball falling faster than a feather fit in to discussing this topic?
How does it even remotely relate to the video that so fervently speaks that there is truth in such a plan!!
One must realize that apparently, a sudden case of amnesia is the answer from these NASA minions.

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Aliveandkicking - "I cannot remember what we were saying though."

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Omega - "The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything."

I beg to differ, Omega, I really do.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 01:40:44 PM
Your ability to direct a conversation away from its original topic is astounding.
Exactly when did we start talking about the "vacuum of space"?
Seriously, we were talking about a plan the Government has to control the populace through violence and fear.

Where does a bowling ball falling faster than a feather fit in to discussing this topic?
How does it even remotely relate to the video that so fervently speaks that there is truth in such a plan!!
One must realize that apparently, a sudden case of amnesia is the answer from these NASA minions.

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Aliveandkicking - "I cannot remember what we were saying though."

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Omega - "The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything."

I beg to differ, Omega, I really do.

Shut up for a moment, N30. Zork, alive and I are clearing the air.

We will get back to your insanity later.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 06, 2016, 01:48:54 PM
Where does a bowling ball falling faster than a feather fit in to discussing this topic?

 Its need to know basis. Go find your local conspirancy headquarters and ask from them if you want more.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 02:04:07 PM
Your ability to direct a conversation away from its original topic is astounding.
Exactly when did we start talking about the "vacuum of space"?
Seriously, we were talking about a plan the Government has to control the populace through violence and fear.

Where does a bowling ball falling faster than a feather fit in to discussing this topic?
How does it even remotely relate to the video that so fervently speaks that there is truth in such a plan!!
One must realize that apparently, a sudden case of amnesia is the answer from these NASA minions.

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Aliveandkicking - "I cannot remember what we were saying though."

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Omega - "The fact that governments lie does not mean governments lie about everything."

I beg to differ, Omega, I really do.

I have nothing to hide.  Just stop it please.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 02:10:14 PM
N30, cite a source for your conspiracy. If you don't, I and everyone here will know your claims don't have any credibility.

And that means nobody will take you seriously. Not even the most fanatical flat earther.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 06, 2016, 04:09:18 PM
(https://s11.postimg.org/j6eagqhcz/Project_blue_beam.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 04:36:42 PM
N30, cite a source for your conspiracy.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Beam
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 06, 2016, 06:06:12 PM

Show me the evidence!

I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.

Ah...I see, you are one of those types.

Yeah, I'm one of those pesky people who likes evidence for outrageous claims.

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I am sure any type of conversing with you will be a waste on anything other than mainstream ideology.

I don't give a darn thing about things being 'mainstream'. I like to see evidence for claims. That's, in fact, not at all mainstream. Look at how many people believe Donald Trump. *That* is mainstream: swallowing lies because they 'feel right'.

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I will attempt just a hair though see where it goes.

And you call me condescending  ;D.

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Though if your head is in the sand so much to think the government is our friends

Never said that.

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, then I really think this is useless. As that is the easiest thing to prove out of all I said.

Again: never said that governments (there are more than one, you know. There are more countries) are inherently trustworthy. I just don't think they are inherently evil either.

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I don't have proof of these shills, nor did I ever say I did.

If you don't have proof, why call them shills?

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I just said seeing actions of some people makes me wonder.

Hate to be a bother, but: what actions? What do you wonder?

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Never stated for a fact. Just looked at the means and motive, it's not far fetched if true. Plus would be a quality tactic if it is true. This is just viewing it from a simple warfare point of view if it were true, not rocket science. Don't even need to think outside the box to understand that.

So... You're just asking questions (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions)...

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I also do not hide behind anything, I am typically a neutral thinker. There are only a few conspiracies I went after and acted against, ones that had solid evidence, means and motive. Everything else, I just listen and keep my eyes open until it either falls apart or proven. I am usually the one that says the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just always keep an open mind.

Keeping an open mind is not the same as suspecting conspiracies without proof. Keeping an open mind is asking for evidence before accepting a claim.

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So let's calm down with the assumptions and attempted cheeky low brow insults, they are not a good look for you.

But I look so cute doing so!

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As for actual conspiracies or lies....9/11 and the multiple wars that followed (speaking from an American point of view, I do not know enough about foreign affairs to say 100 percent about some of their "conspiracies")

You actually think there is even a chance the US government was behind 9/11?

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Oh and as for the media demonizing any form of freedom of thought by using the most insane quacks as examples happens often just watch the news. Also happens on TV and movies. Not rocket science to find such a thing

There is no such thing as 'the media' with some sort of single agenda. I suspect that if someone looks like a quack and acts like a quack, he is in fact a duck pardon, quack.

And there is nothing wrong with exposing quacks.

I do think there are TV shows who love parading idiots around to crank up ratings. It's the only explanation for Donald Trump.

That said, I still haven't heard any concrete evidence *at all* that there is a conspiracy to hide conspiracies behind fake conspiracies.

All I have are your observations, that don't seem to be based on anything substantial.

You seem to only have a 'feeling' about all this.

Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have more than a feeling (background chorus: 'more than a feeling!!!) and have actual evidence, I will take you seriously.

Oh omega you cheeky bastard....  :P what am I going to do with you.

I very well stated I was just thinking out loud about the paid shill thoughts. Kinda like thinking about an unsolved crime..."well this person has the means and motive, the pieces fit together etc"..though in the end it is still a theory. Though there are cases won on pure circumstantial evidence, I don't like them, but there are.

So....SHOW ME SOME READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS!! ;D

I don't suspect conspiracies, I just know who I am dealing with. Like dealing with a drug addict, you know a little of what to expect. I listen unbiasedly, and either wait for the theory to gain traction or collapse. Once again on that reading comprehension thing.

As for 9/11 yes, the things I can say 100 percent about that. The towers did not come down as said and the story they propagated was a lie. So considering these two things, and the governments actions of war and war crimes afterwards, I would say they would be convicted in any court.

I will never know the complete story of that time period, but I would say all evidence combined would fill the picture fairly accurately.

This subject is not just speaking off the cuff. I used every asset I had  available including my entire company, funds and most of my soul on that program. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on September 06, 2016, 06:27:04 PM

Show me the evidence!

I have a reporter from the New York Times on speed-dial.

Ah...I see, you are one of those types.

Yeah, I'm one of those pesky people who likes evidence for outrageous claims.

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I am sure any type of conversing with you will be a waste on anything other than mainstream ideology.

I don't give a darn thing about things being 'mainstream'. I like to see evidence for claims. That's, in fact, not at all mainstream. Look at how many people believe Donald Trump. *That* is mainstream: swallowing lies because they 'feel right'.

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I will attempt just a hair though see where it goes.

And you call me condescending  ;D.

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Though if your head is in the sand so much to think the government is our friends

Never said that.

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, then I really think this is useless. As that is the easiest thing to prove out of all I said.

Again: never said that governments (there are more than one, you know. There are more countries) are inherently trustworthy. I just don't think they are inherently evil either.

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I don't have proof of these shills, nor did I ever say I did.

If you don't have proof, why call them shills?

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I just said seeing actions of some people makes me wonder.

Hate to be a bother, but: what actions? What do you wonder?

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Never stated for a fact. Just looked at the means and motive, it's not far fetched if true. Plus would be a quality tactic if it is true. This is just viewing it from a simple warfare point of view if it were true, not rocket science. Don't even need to think outside the box to understand that.

So... You're just asking questions (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions)...

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I also do not hide behind anything, I am typically a neutral thinker. There are only a few conspiracies I went after and acted against, ones that had solid evidence, means and motive. Everything else, I just listen and keep my eyes open until it either falls apart or proven. I am usually the one that says the truth is in the middle somewhere. I just always keep an open mind.

Keeping an open mind is not the same as suspecting conspiracies without proof. Keeping an open mind is asking for evidence before accepting a claim.

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So let's calm down with the assumptions and attempted cheeky low brow insults, they are not a good look for you.

But I look so cute doing so!

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As for actual conspiracies or lies....9/11 and the multiple wars that followed (speaking from an American point of view, I do not know enough about foreign affairs to say 100 percent about some of their "conspiracies")

You actually think there is even a chance the US government was behind 9/11?

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Oh and as for the media demonizing any form of freedom of thought by using the most insane quacks as examples happens often just watch the news. Also happens on TV and movies. Not rocket science to find such a thing

There is no such thing as 'the media' with some sort of single agenda. I suspect that if someone looks like a quack and acts like a quack, he is in fact a duck pardon, quack.

And there is nothing wrong with exposing quacks.

I do think there are TV shows who love parading idiots around to crank up ratings. It's the only explanation for Donald Trump.

That said, I still haven't heard any concrete evidence *at all* that there is a conspiracy to hide conspiracies behind fake conspiracies.

All I have are your observations, that don't seem to be based on anything substantial.

You seem to only have a 'feeling' about all this.

Correct me if I'm wrong. If you have more than a feeling (background chorus: 'more than a feeling!!!) and have actual evidence, I will take you seriously.

Omega stop jumping down everyones throats.

Makes you look like a dick.

I also agree we haven't been told the truth about 9/11, sorry to bring it up again I know how it bothers everyone.

Keep in mind BHS has a PhD in mechanical engineering before you start flinging poo about "total progressive collapse."

But I am interested to hear how building 7 defied three or four laws of physics to fall down as it did.

Sorry to derail.

Edit, Hilarious read, highly recommended.
http://www.rense.com/general34/fant.htm

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Since they're already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and re-defined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way?

Damn conspiricy theorists .
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 06, 2016, 09:44:33 PM
(https://s11.postimg.org/j6eagqhcz/Project_blue_beam.jpg)

Religion?

Religions require belief.
Belief beyond, or despite any proof.
Such belief can only be based on wishfull thinking and stubborness.

Every new generation is less and less susceptible to any kind of religion.
More and more of them want to KNOW.
Belief is not enough.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 06, 2016, 11:02:04 PM
"...governments lie about everything."

I KNOW the government is lying to me.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 06, 2016, 11:15:33 PM
"...governments lie about everything."

I KNOW the government is lying to me.

Yeah but you KNOW I am lying to you as well.

I am just an ordinary person sitting at home trying to explain why it is commonly believed a compass is unreliable as you approach the magnetic poles
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 06, 2016, 11:18:39 PM
"...governments lie about everything."

I KNOW the government is lying to me.

Nobody ever lies about everything, if they want you to believe them.
The best liars are hiding lies inbetween truth.

Government is lying about many things, but Globe Earth didn't come from government.
It came from science: astronomy, geography, navigation, geodesy, meteorology, physics, ...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 06, 2016, 11:30:49 PM
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Also I think that it is important to understand that, even if people believed the world was flat, they weren’t necessarily unintelligent.  It would have been a perfectly reasonable assumption to make to the untrained observer.  Our immediate experience does not show many signs that the Earth is round. What did you think before someone taught you the Earth was a sphere? (you probably don’t remember back that far, but you know what I mean.)

http://futurism.com/facts-obvious/


Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 06, 2016, 11:48:41 PM
N30, your belief is batshit crazy. Nuts. Wacko. It would be hilarious if it wasn't a symptom of severe paranoia and perhaps worse.

Your project is ridiculous even for the flat earth society.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 07, 2016, 12:13:23 AM
Yo N30, so glad you finally see reason.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 12:14:41 AM
Yo N30, so glad you finally see reason.

Your beliefs are based on a Star Trek script.

http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 07, 2016, 12:47:45 AM
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The intelligence agencies use the conspiracy media to disseminate false information..."

Quoted from - http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html
Why would they do that unless there is something to hide?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 01:04:37 AM
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The intelligence agencies use the conspiracy media to disseminate false information..."

Quoted from - http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html
Why would they do that unless there is something to hide?

Dude. Your entire belief is based on a STAR TREK SCRIPT.

If you follow the sources for 'project blue balls' back to where it started, you end up with Gene Roddenberry's unproduced screenplay.

That means that whatever 'THEY' are hiding (if anything), it's NOT some sort of major holographic hoax.

I know you will not change your mind. You are for all intents and purposes lost. Your mind has invested so much in believing, that even considering that you are wrong would devastate you.

Any form of actual critical thinking is impossible for you. Because admitting you made a mistake, in your mind, means total failure.

Which is of course not true.

If anything: finding out that you were mistaken is an opportunity to learn.

(I know I am talking to a wall, but I had to give it a shot)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 07, 2016, 01:56:15 AM
Omega stop jumping down everyones throats.

Makes you look like a dick.

I also agree we haven't been told the truth about 9/11, sorry to bring it up again I know how it bothers everyone.

Keep in mind BHS has a PhD in mechanical engineering before you start flinging poo about "total progressive collapse."

But I am interested to hear how building 7 defied three or four laws of physics to fall down as it did.

Sorry to derail.

Edit, Hilarious read, highly recommended.
http://www.rense.com/general34/fant.htm

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Since they're already re-engineered the combustion qualities of jet fuel, violated the second law of thermodynamics, and re-defined the structural properties of steel, why let a little thing like the laws of gravity get in the way?

Damn conspiricy theorists .

Gerard was ahead of the curve on 9/11, when everyone (sadly including myself) was yelling kill obama and bomb everything in the middle east, he was already calling the 9/11 bull shit. I met him on two occasions in 2004 and 2006, gave me crap the first time my head was almost buzzed and the second my hair was close to his length. Plus I moonlighted in the professional music scene as he did. Only issue I ever had with him was it was either exactly his theory, or it was the official story...nothing could be in the middle. However, his heart was in the right place.

A lot of his heavy facts to battle actual scientific debates came from the group I was a part of. Though he typically debated for opening your mind instead of head to head science, but at times he would get into that. That was still one of the greatest yet saddest times in my life, I have never worked with so many intelligent people at once all working towards the same goal. Probate lawyers, structural engineers, mechanical engineers, pilots, aviation theory experts, organic chemist and the list goes on. About 60 percent was at the phd level, the rest was mostly masters and mixed lower ranges. Yet everyone worked together so well it was really just a giant bubble of conjoined knowledge.

I think there was about a 8 month period I only grossed like 50k in total revenue for the entire damn place, I was blowing so many resources and my entire business towards building a case with solid evidence.  My cpa and lawyer were starting to worry lol, but I always believed if you have faith in a cause....take action and give it what you got. Sad what happened happened.

I have always wondered what happened to Gerard, between 2007-2008 everything of his got deleted and he just vanished. Then a couple years later his death was announced. I have no evidence of anything but it sure seems strange, he had NO intentions of shutting up. Then the whole group got hit with the threat of federal charges for terroristic  activities, the 501c was renounced, I got audited and shut down for a month, and have been audited every damn year since even though I have actually over paid every year. Along with a bunch of other non sense.....

Sure does make you wonder.


Oh and dispute, as for omega....Meh, I have run into his type over and over again. Its hard for people like him to absorb some of the malicious things that people do to people. I don't blame him, it sucks...really does. Also, it is good to have a closed minded skeptic around, keeps the ying with the yang, because it is easy to go off the deep end even for the most sound of mind. Even in that group, many genius level people...but some were more of a skeptic mind, others were more of a rabbit hole mind, then there were those like me, more of a walk the line in the middle and look both ways while walking.

I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.


Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 02:02:46 AM
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.

Open minded doesn't mean believing everything you hear. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence for any claims.

The more outrageous the claim, the more compelling the evidence needs to be.

I know I fit perfectly in your little conspiracy world. I help you to feel 'special' ("look at the stupid skeptic who does not take my word for it!")

and I know I will not cure you of your delusions.

But I am glad to go on record and ask the actual relevant questions. So others who visit this board don't think your assertions go unchallenged.

I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. If you provide evidence.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 07, 2016, 02:10:56 AM
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.

Open minded doesn't mean believing everything you hear. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence for any claims.

The more outrageous the claim, the more compelling the evidence needs to be.

I know I fit perfectly in your little conspiracy world. I help you to feel 'special' ("look at the stupid skeptic who does not take my word for it!")

and I know I will not cure you of your delusions.

But I am glad to go on record and ask the actual relevant questions. So others who visit this board don't think your assertions go unchallenged.

I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. If you provide evidence.

You appear to like creating stories where the person you are talking to is described as an idiot.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 02:12:56 AM
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.

Open minded doesn't mean believing everything you hear. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence for any claims.

The more outrageous the claim, the more compelling the evidence needs to be.

I know I fit perfectly in your little conspiracy world. I help you to feel 'special' ("look at the stupid skeptic who does not take my word for it!")

and I know I will not cure you of your delusions.

But I am glad to go on record and ask the actual relevant questions. So others who visit this board don't think your assertions go unchallenged.

I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. If you provide evidence.

You appear to like creating stories where the person you are talking to is described as an idiot.

They don't need my help for that.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 07, 2016, 02:21:53 AM
I will say, a skeptic that opens their mind, from my experience, if they reach that point...they plow harder for the truth than almost anyone I have seen.

Open minded doesn't mean believing everything you hear. I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask for evidence for any claims.

The more outrageous the claim, the more compelling the evidence needs to be.

I know I fit perfectly in your little conspiracy world. I help you to feel 'special' ("look at the stupid skeptic who does not take my word for it!")

and I know I will not cure you of your delusions.

But I am glad to go on record and ask the actual relevant questions. So others who visit this board don't think your assertions go unchallenged.

I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy. If you provide evidence.

You really do have reading comprehension issues don't you?? So either you are dense or specifically being a dick...I consider it a 50/50 shot of which one.

Have I said anything about a world wide conspiracy??? You are aware I am not a flat earther...sure I say things to make people think as I like to think as well. Yet I also include..."its my opinion" or openly admit I have no solid evidence. Only reason 9/11 came up, was because you said show a conspiracy I have 100 percent proof of. So I used one I did...do I think there is circumstantial evidence of others...sure, but it is that circumstantial. 9/11 is the only I have empirical proof of.

I am also aware of people whom create alternate realities to boost their ego and sense of self. Create special knowledge to raise themselves above others with this "special knowledge" only they know. I have no need for this, nor do I present any "special knowledge" I have...I like to debate open thought, that is all. I have accomplished plenty in life thus far and I have provided enough proof of who I am and what I do on this forum to have no need for such tactics...and as I said, there is no proof of me using such methods.

You say these things because it is in your typical rebuttal guide and you are incapable of going acapella in a different situation. It also breaks down your life script and personal/world view, as people like you come on forums like these in the attempt to raise yourself above all the "stupid conspiracy theorist" and the like. Such the person who races the slow car with their sports car, plays basketball with a shorter person, or battles wits with an uneducated person. Unable to compete and perform in situations where equals or greater could be present.

So when you come across an individual/s that is either your equal or some shades above your level, yet also have different views and mentalities. This is not only threatening and frightening, it causes your thinking to go to a default defensive mode. Hence the previous statements of reading off a default script, like a computer in safe mode.

Skeptics I like, they are a good grounding...your type, perhaps I dislike slightly...but you are still cool  :-*
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 03:23:14 AM
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.

None at all.

And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?

Think, McFly. THINK.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 07, 2016, 03:41:20 AM
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.

None at all.

This is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen anyone write on this site. And this is a thread talking about how the sky is a giant government created hologram. I didn't expect you to actually read anything I posted above....I know you lack on reading comprehension skills. I am also starting to lean towards the dense side as well, unless you are attempting to gas light me, which is also a possibility. Also, on this subject, I speak from experience, not keyboard banging, you should try that one day..

And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?


I agree with this, yet in this situation, it is way beyond the non sense parties that exists to make us think we have some sort of say so. They would never out this, or be allowed to. Does it not bug you that other countries make fun of us for how stupid we are to buy the official story..publically of all things?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 07, 2016, 03:47:27 AM
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.

None at all.

And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?

Think, McFly. THINK.

So no evidence at all it was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals and yet from almost the next day a case was orchestrated to go get them folks in Iraq who did it no matter how trumped up the evidence was.

Stranger still pretty well every government in the world including finland and new zealand contributed armed forces in some capacity to the war 'on terror'

And if you publicly question what happened some goon comes along and questions your mental health.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 04:32:25 AM
Did the US abuse 9/11 to go to Iraq? No question about that.

Does that mean they were behind it? No not at all.

I would even say that if this was fabricated to invade Iraq, they could have fabricated actual evidence that Iraq was behind it.

Think. Don't be sheeple.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 07, 2016, 04:38:28 AM
Did the US abuse 9/11 to go to Iraq? No question about that.

Does that mean they were behind it? No not at all.

I would even say that if this was fabricated to invade Iraq, they could have fabricated actual evidence that Iraq was behind it.

Think. Don't be sheeple.

Funny when you have an independant mind you get the sheeple crap.

We are more or less agreeing.   And after years of headbanging with this stuff i have no interest whatsoever to get into details that may or may not separate us.     You have already shown your colours where anybody who disagrees with you gets the idiot treatment you seem to specialise in.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 04:48:45 AM
I don't think everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot. I hate using the term. But the amount of willful ignorance that is thrown up in these threads get to me.

I will try and keep the ad hominems down.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 07, 2016, 04:52:53 AM
So no evidence at all it was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals and yet from almost the next day a case was orchestrated to go get them folks in Iraq who did it no matter how trumped up the evidence was.

Stranger still pretty well every government in the world including finland and new zealand contributed armed forces in some capacity to the war 'on terror'

And if you publicly question what happened some goon comes along and questions your mental health.

Or this....

I have always wondered what happened to Gerard, between 2007-2008 everything of his got deleted and he just vanished. Then a couple years later his death was announced. I have no evidence of anything but it sure seems strange, he had NO intentions of shutting up. Then the whole group got hit with the threat of federal charges for terroristic  activities, the 501c was renounced, I got audited and shut down for a month, and have been audited every damn year since even though I have actually over paid every year. Along with a bunch of other non sense.....

Sure does make you wonder.


Such an interesting set of events...



We are more or less agreeing.   And after years of headbanging with this stuff i have no interest whatsoever to get into details that may or may not separate us.     You have already shown your colours where anybody who disagrees with you gets the idiot treatment you seem to specialise in.



You are correct I know am just wasting time with someone like him. This is one of the only subjects that really set me off. Just because I know the truth (as much as i can) and am so close to it.

And it isn't even the knowledge part...just people lying to others , these poor people sitting their in their cloud of brain wash helplessly believing a lie. Plus all the millions of lives and deaths that resulted from such a lie....i mourn for all of these people and the weight is always in my heart.

Then putting years, my soul, 100s of thousands of dollars and man hours into a project I thought would make a difference..yet to be extinguished by a more powerful force. To be in the exact same place...not only do I mourn for those I spoke about above, my personal spirit was broken.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 07, 2016, 05:05:28 AM
So no evidence at all it was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals and yet from almost the next day a case was orchestrated to go get them folks in Iraq who did it no matter how trumped up the evidence was.

Stranger still pretty well every government in the world including finland and new zealand contributed armed forces in some capacity to the war 'on terror'

And if you publicly question what happened some goon comes along and questions your mental health.

Or this....

I have always wondered what happened to Gerard, between 2007-2008 everything of his got deleted and he just vanished. Then a couple years later his death was announced. I have no evidence of anything but it sure seems strange, he had NO intentions of shutting up. Then the whole group got hit with the threat of federal charges for terroristic  activities, the 501c was renounced, I got audited and shut down for a month, and have been audited every damn year since even though I have actually over paid every year. Along with a bunch of other non sense.....

Sure does make you wonder.


Such an interesting set of events...



We are more or less agreeing.   And after years of headbanging with this stuff i have no interest whatsoever to get into details that may or may not separate us.     You have already shown your colours where anybody who disagrees with you gets the idiot treatment you seem to specialise in.



You are correct I know am just wasting time with someone like him. This is one of the only subjects that really set me off. Just because I know the truth (as much as i can) and am so close to it.

And it isn't even the knowledge part...just people lying to others , these poor people sitting their in their cloud of brain wash helplessly believing a lie. Plus all the millions of lives and deaths that resulted from such a lie....i mourn for all of these people and the weight is always in my heart.

Then putting years, my soul, 100s of thousands of dollars and man hours into a project I thought would make a difference..yet to be extinguished by a more powerful force. To be in the exact same place...not only do I mourn for those I spoke about above, my personal spirit was broken.

In my life I have come up against powerful forces and been broken by them.  So now I more inclined to see powerful forces and see myself as impotent.   It is what is.    I am not the person I was but in some ways I am more realistic and grounded and less up in the air with all manner of high minded ideas that in reality I will not die for.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Definitely Not Swedish on September 07, 2016, 05:17:52 AM
Are you guys high?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 07, 2016, 05:31:01 AM
Are you guys high?

I am about 50m above sea level.  Just north of Helsinki Finland
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 07, 2016, 06:16:53 AM
Are you guys high?
The 6th floor, so not too high.

I am on shit loads of drugs, however.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 07:11:50 AM
Looking at mountains but not living on one. So not that high.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 07, 2016, 12:40:19 PM
"I am on shit loads of drugs..."

"Government is lying about many things..."

"I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy..."

"...governments lie about everything."

Who would you believe if your life was on the line?
Alternatively... Are you going to take the blue pill, or the red pill?
Keep in mind, your decision may affects others!
Exactly why would this project be impossible, when, even those who discredit it readily admit we are told lies.

Uncover the truth on your own! There are two pieces of plausible evidence pointing towards truth in my theory.
Please take a look at them, especially the video, which has not been proven to be a natural occurrence!

(https://s11.postimg.org/hpeke8kqb/BB_frame_20.jpg)
(https://s22.postimg.org/jxx0ol4fl/BB_Frame_320.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2nDSGoG.png)

These photos prove that the line did NOT move over a period of three minutes, proving it could not be the sun.
If in fact, there is another natural explanation, other than the shadow of the Earth or the Sun, please tell me!
Maybe the answer really is some rift in time and space made by Superman!
Except I doubt that...

"If you look at the frame holding the traffic signs the video begins with the line going to the right as it moves upwards away from the traffic sign frame." -

What does a line moving "upwards away" even mean...?

It was good enough for super man.

Up up and away!!!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Omega on September 07, 2016, 01:10:16 PM
Don't misquote me n30. I don't believe a word of your blue balls project, and the picture shows the line moved.

If you can only win your arguments by lying, you are obviously part of a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 07, 2016, 01:21:10 PM
"...you can only win your arguments by lying..."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on September 07, 2016, 01:30:33 PM
"...governments lie about everything."

I KNOW the government is lying to me.

Nobody ever lies about everything, if they want you to believe them.
The best liars are hiding lies inbetween truth.

Government is lying about many things, but Globe Earth didn't come from government.
It came from science: astronomy, geography, navigation, geodesy, meteorology, physics, ...
Who do you think is ultimately in charge of all those fields of study? In case you don't know I'll tell you. The GOVERNMENT.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on September 07, 2016, 01:39:29 PM
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.

None at all.

And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?

Think, McFly. THINK.
You are either a shill, or just a brainwashed son of a bitch. There is so much proof out there on 911, you either purposely over look it or cannot see the the truth whatsoever.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 07, 2016, 04:11:40 PM
There is no evidence at all that 9/11 was anything other than a bunch of pissed off radicals who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.

None at all.

And if there was, can you imagine the political capital the Democrats would have if they actually had proof that Bush et al where behind it?

Think, McFly. THINK.
You are either a shill, or just a brainwashed son of a bitch. There is so much proof out there on 911, you either purposely over look it or cannot see the the truth whatsoever.
You have no case, so you attack the presenter. Seems to be a common flat earth tactic!
With all the Satanist accusations flying around.
          PROOF that NASA is Satanic! « on: April 18, 2016, 10:47:37 AM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66525.msg1774125#msg1774125)
          Re: The Bible and flat earth. « Reply #105 on: July 11, 2016, 01:30:44 AM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=67143.msg1798055#msg1798055)
          Re: Dinosaurs: Made In China « Reply #178 on: May 26, 2016, 06:23:43 AM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66725.msg1784531#msg1784531)
          Celestial Ocean Theory explained « on: April 20, 2016, 11:36:51 PM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66547.msg1774715#msg1774715)
          Re: Globe Earth Debunk Why The Sky Is Blue? « Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 12:31:11 AM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66517.msg1774009#msg1774009)

Plenty more accusations like that around, even apart from the usual "shill" ones.

Carry on proving you have no substantial case!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 07, 2016, 06:36:43 PM
"The intelligence agencies use the conspiracy media to disseminate false information..."


Quoted from - http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html


Ladies and Gentleman, may I present, The Intelligence Agencies, and their responses to the Flat Earth Theory.


"You know I have not yet see a FEer ask a single question that he or she actually wanted to hear the answer to?"

"I have yet to see a FEer show genuine curiosity at how physics works."

"If you can only win your arguments by lying, you are obviously part of a conspiracy."

"...governments lie about everything."

"I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy."

"Shut up for a moment, N30."

"Oh and nobody says the Earth is pear-shaped"

"But seriously, N30... why do yo feel attacked by all this?"

"...NASA has in fact lied, and there IS a world-wide conspiracy hiding the truth..."

"If I had been lied to so consistently, through false evidence,  faked videos and made to believe ridiculous reasonings, I would be angry at all the people who made those fake videos, altered evidence and participated in keeping the lie alive."

"I assure you, I am not playing."

"How can the earth be flat if my balls are round?"

"I answer only to Satan."

"Many people here are liars and some like you are perverts."

"Time and time again you are shown to be a lying pervert."

"It is perverted to imply I am constantly asking the same questions."

"If I say you are a pervert for a blatant lie by creating this thread and you ask if i am the pervert, and then Jimmy crab asks if you are the pervert then it is a bit perverted to claim he is derailing this thread."

"Your behaviour on this forum is demonstrably perverse."

"What kind of a lying pervert would so dishonestly imply otherwise?"

"...but you KNOW I am lying to you as well."

"...flat earthers have yet to reach the intelligence level of a kid"

"Have you ever seen a frozen alligator?"

"If gravity was real, how comes I am not attracted to your mom?"

"How can earth be round if my floor is flat?"

"How can earth be round if pancakes are flat?"

"Any worm has a higher brain functionality than any flat earther."

"I claim that a worm has higher brain functionality than you have."

"I WILL NOT REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER."

"No disrespect intended, just mocking"

"So you require a source?"

"I appreciate your trolling skills, but sometimes you get too obvious"

"I get 100.- per hour."

"We're currently spaming the flat earth forum, so every external visitor would leave instantly."


"Do I understand correctly that N30 wants to know how earth looks like"... "he is requesting all to be presented exactly and precisely and with evidence and proof and with the cherry on the top?"
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 07, 2016, 09:02:27 PM
"The intelligence agencies use the conspiracy media to disseminate false information..."


Quoted from - http://secretsun.blogspot.nl/2010/11/project-blue-beam-exposed.html


Ladies and Gentleman, may I present, The Intelligence Agencies, and their responses to the Flat Earth Theory.


"You know I have not yet see a FEer ask a single question that he or she actually wanted to hear the answer to?"

"I have yet to see a FEer show genuine curiosity at how physics works."

"If you can only win your arguments by lying, you are obviously part of a conspiracy."

"...governments lie about everything."

"I am more than happy to believe in a worldwide conspiracy."

"Shut up for a moment, N30."

"Oh and nobody says the Earth is pear-shaped"

"But seriously, N30... why do yo feel attacked by all this?"

"...NASA has in fact lied, and there IS a world-wide conspiracy hiding the truth..."

"If I had been lied to so consistently, through false evidence,  faked videos and made to believe ridiculous reasonings, I would be angry at all the people who made those fake videos, altered evidence and participated in keeping the lie alive."

"I assure you, I am not playing."

"How can the earth be flat if my balls are round?"

"I answer only to Satan."

"Many people here are liars and some like you are perverts."

"Time and time again you are shown to be a lying pervert."

"It is perverted to imply I am constantly asking the same questions."

"If I say you are a pervert for a blatant lie by creating this thread and you ask if i am the pervert, and then Jimmy crab asks if you are the pervert then it is a bit perverted to claim he is derailing this thread."

"Your behaviour on this forum is demonstrably perverse."

"What kind of a lying pervert would so dishonestly imply otherwise?"

"...but you KNOW I am lying to you as well."

"...flat earthers have yet to reach the intelligence level of a kid"

"Have you ever seen a frozen alligator?"

"If gravity was real, how comes I am not attracted to your mom?"

"How can earth be round if my floor is flat?"

"How can earth be round if pancakes are flat?"

"Any worm has a higher brain functionality than any flat earther."

"I claim that a worm has higher brain functionality than you have."

"I WILL NOT REPEAT MYSELF OVER AND OVER."

"No disrespect intended, just mocking"

"So you require a source?"

"I appreciate your trolling skills, but sometimes you get too obvious"

"I get 100.- per hour."

"We're currently spaming the flat earth forum, so every external visitor would leave instantly."


"Do I understand correctly that N30 wants to know how earth looks like"... "he is requesting all to be presented exactly and precisely and with evidence and proof and with the cherry on the top?"

The video shows the line has moved.

And you pretend it has not moved

That is just weird.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Definitely Not Swedish on September 08, 2016, 04:24:41 AM
Lol, n30 has discovered the "show posts" function. I'll give you one more to quote:

How can the earth be flat if our eyeballs are round?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 08, 2016, 09:03:55 AM
"Damn, are you dumb!"

"Do you really have a consciousness? Could you tell apart whether you were tricked into believing you have a consciousness vs. having a consciousness?"

"...I'd like to engage serious discussion
on the subject of science..."

"What I mean is that this is not actually a joke for me"
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 09, 2016, 10:01:47 AM
The one thing you need to know about using projectors outdoors is that it NEEDS TO BE DARK.
Unfortunately, they have not yet made a projector that is brighter than the Sun,
so your best bet is to wait until the Sun has set. Now, with that out of the way, let's continue!

The calculated area of the Earth is 197 million square miles.
it is 7.93 x 1017 square inches.
Sky can be even bigger, but let's limit ourselves to this.

If we go with only 10 pixels per inch, it is 100 pixels per square inch,
which makes 7.93 x 1019 pixels for just one image.
If we go with only 10 FPS it is 864 000 such images in 24 hours.
We get 6.851 x 10 25 pixels per day.
For full RGB you need 3 Bytes per pixel, making our number around 2 x 1027 Bytes.

You can not go lower than that, or not much, because people have telescopes.

One TeraByte is 1012 Bytes. Video for just one day would be 1015 times bigger than that.
It is 1 000 000 000 000 000 times.

If we achieve compression ratio of 40:1, or even 200:1, it is still at least millions of times bigger than any existing memory media can carry.

And now see how big should be video for one year.
What about all the way since 1958, when NASA was established?

Of course, it gets even bigger, much bigger, when you make 3D videos.
How many people, and how fast, can produce such videos?

Does any of us knows anyone who knows anyone who's friend has sister-in-law that knows distant cousin of nephew of anyone working on that project?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 09, 2016, 11:08:49 AM
Who would you believe if your life was on the line?
Certainly not you, you're a fuckwit.

Quote
Alternatively... Are you going to take the blue pill, or the red pill?
I'm going to take them both.  Crush em up and snort em.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 09, 2016, 11:28:56 AM
The calculated area of the Earth is 197 million square miles.
it is 7.93 x 1017 square inches.
Sky can be even bigger, but let's limit ourselves to this.

Well, don't stop there, please, calculate the sky!
At least show your work!
Please, I did not spend a large portion of my life in school for nothing!

Quote
"The surface area of a sphere is given by A = 4 * Pi * R^2."

"This will give a good answer for most purposes, but Earth is not a
sphere
."

"Earth is a little flat at the poles..."

"The fact that it is flat at the poles doesn't change much"

"You can always increase the total area by considering ever smaller
pits and humps, all the way until the surface has no more meaning"

The surface area of a sphere of radius a is 4*pi*a^2.

"...The area of a circle of radius a is
pi a^2.  If you differentiate this with respect to a, you get 2*pi*a,
which is, gasp,  the circumference of a circle of radius a.  The
volume of a sphere of radius a is 4*pi*a^3/3.  If you differentiate
this with respect to a you get, yes, the surface area of a sphere."


"...Earth is not a
sphere
."



http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/54878.html
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 09, 2016, 12:17:29 PM
 Yeah, we get it. Earth is not a sphere. As its out of the way then please enlighten us what are the earth measurements and shape and how you determined and calculated these .
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 09, 2016, 12:30:14 PM
Yeah, we get it. Earth is not a sphere. As its out of the way then please enlighten us what are the earth measurements and shape and how you determined and calculated these .

Straight from the horses mouth. I would tell you, but one would be arrested for going to Antarctica with a ruler.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: well rounded flat earther on September 09, 2016, 12:51:57 PM
prove it.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 09, 2016, 12:59:59 PM
Yeah, we get it. Earth is not a sphere. As its out of the way then please enlighten us what are the earth measurements and shape and how you determined and calculated these .

Straight from the horses mouth. I would tell you, but one would be arrested for going to Antarctica with a ruler.
So you don't know. Why the hell you are so adamant about round earth measurements when you have absolutely no idea what they are on flat earth case? Its like:
Hey - give me round earth specifications and now!
Ahh, flat earth. No need. Its flat and has no need of other specifications.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 09, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
Ok, if the Earth is Disc, with diameter of 16 000 miles, and considering the Sun is not at the highest spot on Dome,
(and it is 3110 miles above ground), then Dome top can be 3300 miles high at the spot where North Star is. (Polaris.)

It gives us area of Dome (as area of spherical cap) to be roughly 1018 square inches,
which is 1020 pixels, which is 3 x 1020 Bytes per image.
864 000 images per day is 2.6 x 1026 Bytes.
Which is about 3.8 times more than in my previous post.

Now we see even worse situation for technical possibilities to project such video.

You can calculate it better?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 09, 2016, 04:19:37 PM
Ok, if The Earth is Disc, with diameter of 16 000 miles, and considering the Sun is not at the highest spot on Dome,
(and it is 3110 miles above ground), then Dome top can be 3300 miles high at the spot where North Star is. (Polaris.)

It gives us area of Dome (as area of spherical cap) to be roughly 1018 square inches,
which is 1020 pixels, which is 3 x 1020 Bytes per image.
864 000 images per day is 2.6 x 1026 Bytes.
Which is about 3.8 times more than in my previous post.

Now we see even worse situation for technical possibilities to project such video.


You can calculate it better?

Thank you... Thats literally all you have been doing.

"Ahh, flat earth... Its flat and has no need of other specifications."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 09, 2016, 07:55:17 PM
Ok, if The Earth is Disc, with diameter of 16 000 miles, and considering the Sun is not at the highest spot on Dome,
(and it is 3110 miles above ground), then Dome top can be 3300 miles high at the spot where North Star is. (Polaris.)

It gives us area of Dome (as area of spherical cap) to be roughly 1018 square inches,
which is 1020 pixels, which is 3 x 1020 Bytes per image.
864 000 images per day is 2.6 x 1026 Bytes.
Which is about 3.8 times more than in my previous post.

Now we see even worse situation for technical possibilities to project such video.


You can calculate it better?

Thank you... Thats literally all you have been doing.

"Ahh, flat earth... Its flat and has no need of other specifications."

That was enough to show impossibility.

Have you done anything even close to that?
Or you just wait for someone to play your mom and do the job for you?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 10, 2016, 12:42:19 AM
I would be killed for trying to measure the true shape of Earth, by the US military patrolling the exterior.


"Andhøy and his crew set out to challenge the authority of the governments and organizations who administer the last great wildernesses of the arctic and antarctic."

"The skipper of Berserk, Jarle Andhøy, survived, as did Andhøy’s eighteen year old companion on the south Polar ice, Sam Massie."

"The deaths of Robert Skaane, Tom Bellica and Leonard Banks is still heatedly debated by those who inhabit the polar regions"


"Operation Deep Freeze is the codename for a series of United States missions to Antarctica"

"...Coordinated by the United States military."

"Given the continuing and constant US presence in Antarctica ..."

"The Antarctic Treaty specifically prohibits military activity "

(https://s9.postimg.org/v1xrvg4yn/Flat_Disc.jpg)

Quoted text cited below.
https://davidungless.com/2014/09/21/who-owns-the-wilderness-2/comment-page-1/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_activity_in_the_Antarctic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Deep_Freeze

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 10, 2016, 01:22:46 AM
Please, I did spend a large portion of my life in school for nothing!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 10, 2016, 06:20:19 AM
I would be killed for trying to measure the true shape of Earth, by the US military patrolling the exterior.
And yet no soldier has ever come back and told us about this?  There must be millions out there to patrol such a large area.

So, before the US existed as a military superpower (or before it even existed at all) who used to patrol the edges of the flat earth?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Globetrotter on September 10, 2016, 08:13:37 AM
I would be killed for trying to measure the true shape of Earth, by the US military patrolling the exterior.
And yet no soldier has ever come back and told us about this?  There must be millions out there to patrol such a large area.

So, before the US existed as a military superpower (or before it even existed at all) who used to patrol the edges of the flat earth?

The only US soldier who can spill is now in jail. https://www.yahoo.com/news/jailed-u-soldier-manning-attempted-suicide-last-week-233538436.html?nhp=1

The rest of the US Army is only loyal soldiers, no spies, no FE (must be paid appropriately).
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 10, 2016, 11:42:18 AM
So, before the US existed as a military superpower (or before it even existed at all) who used to patrol the edges of the flat earth?

You mean way back when there were no planes or vehicles to survive a trip to the exterior and back?
Exactly why must every soldier know about true nature of Earth?
Suffice it to say, they are on a "need to know" basis, and probably think they are protecting the environment.

"...the US Army is only loyal soldiers..."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 10, 2016, 08:15:22 PM
If the Earth is flat, and there is Ice Wal, the wall would be 50 000 miles long.

The whole Western Front during World War 1 was 440 miles long.

How many soldiers should be deployed to protect such long line?

Does the world have enough soldiers for that?
What about logistics (supplies and such)?

Does the world have enough money to pay for that?

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 10, 2016, 09:00:15 PM
All they need is a few bases with a multitude of sensor arrays, and thats exactly whats there.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 10, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
All they need is a few bases with a multitude of sensor arrays, and thats exactly whats there.
Says the N30 know it all with no evidence at all, just all this rubbish spouting from his massive brain!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 10, 2016, 10:20:16 PM
All they need is a few bases with a multitude of sensor arrays, and thats exactly whats there.

Small private plane landing on an island just off Antarctica



Finnish private jet landing in Antarctica



Qantas flight over Antarctica



Ordinary people travelling and working in Antarctica

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 11, 2016, 03:06:02 AM
All they need is a few bases with a multitude of sensor arrays, and thats exactly whats there.

And how would sensors stop anyone?

Few bases? Let's say 10. It is one every 5000 miles.
Let's say 100. It is still one every 500 miles.
Let's say 500. One every 100 miles.

(How many Mexicans illegaly enter USA every night with much denser border patrols?)

Your drone was detected on one of those sensors.
By the time they send any missile to drop it down,
it already recorded and transmitted images and video of the edge.

Every newspaper would pay fortune for them.
Why greedy paparazzi didn't do it already?

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 11, 2016, 11:26:33 AM
We aren't sure how far the exterior wall is from the shores of Antarctica.
Actually, it could be thousands of miles, more than enough time for NASA to kill anyone venturing close enough.
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
Entirely because there are so many discrepancies about its size and shape.
Until the space program, there was no empirical evidence that it was a continent.
Promptly after humans "entered space" for the first time, Antartica was closed to the public.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 11, 2016, 06:27:45 PM
We aren't sure how far the exterior wall is from the shores of Antarctica.
Actually, it could be thousands of miles, more than enough time for NASA to kill anyone venturing close enough.
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
Entirely because there are so many discrepancies about its size and shape.
Until the space program, there was no empirical evidence that it was a continent.
Promptly after humans "entered space" for the first time, Antartica was closed to the public.

"NASA kill everyone" is because total number of NASA employees, including associates, is around 18 000 people.

They have to cover about 2.7 miles per person, including room cleaners, custodians, building and vehicle maintenance...
I hope their office boys shoot well...

And your "closed to the public" means this:

"The (summer) tour season lasts from November to March.
Most of the estimated 14,762 visitors to Antarctica in 1999-2000 were on sea cruises.
During the 2009 to 2010 tourist season, over 37,000 people visited Antarctica."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Conker on September 12, 2016, 04:48:45 AM
"John, when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together." - Isaac Asimov.

Don't play the "You said it, it is not a sphere!" game when you know that neither RE claims the Earth is a perfect sphere, nor FE claims all points on the surface have the same flat slope.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 12, 2016, 12:59:56 PM
"NASA kill everyone" is because total number of NASA employees, including associates, is around 18 000 people.

When did I say "NASA kill everyone"?
Although that is their plan, at least for the people who think differently than they do!
Keeping people away from the exterior requires merely another lie, and people will blindly follow it.
Except for near the coastline or inland, a quaint few hundred miles, one is not allowed in Antarctica.

Unless you have "authorization".
Perhaps, if Earth is not a perfect sphere, science and math should stop treating it as such!

"Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is." - Isaac Asimov.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on September 12, 2016, 03:54:59 PM

Unless you have "authorization".
Perhaps, if Earth is not a perfect sphere, science and math should stop treating it as such!

"Self-education is, I firmly believe, the only kind of education there is." - Isaac Asimov.

Name 1 scientist that claims the earth is a perfect sphere. If you're going to quote Asimov, you better practice what you preach.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 12, 2016, 05:04:28 PM
Quote
“Finding something spherical in space indicates that you have found a place where gravity has taken over.”

-Mike Brown, Astrophysicist.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/234214.Mike_Brown

Please take your imperative statement out of my quote, I don't want people thinking I'm interested in liars.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 12, 2016, 07:44:14 PM
Perhaps, if Earth is not a perfect sphere, science and math should stop treating it as such!

The earth is not a "perfect sphere", please tell me where "science and math" is "treating it as such"!

If you simply look up "size of the earth", the first answer is the average radius, then compares it to the average radius of the sun and other planets. Then seems eminently sensible to me. If asked a simple question, give a simple answer, because the earth is very close to being a sphere.

But you very soon get this:
Quote from: Space, How Big is Earth?
Radius, diameter and circumference
The mean radius of Earth is 3,959 miles (6,371 kilometers). However, Earth is not quite a sphere. The planet's rotation causes it to bulge at the equator. Earth's equatorial diameter is 7,926 miles (12,756 km), but from pole to pole, the diameter is 7,898 miles (12,714 km) — a difference of only 28 miles (42 km).

The circumference of Earth at the equator is about 24,874 miles (40,030 km), but from pole-to-pole — the meridional circumference — Earth is only 24,860 miles (40,008 km) around. This shape, caused by the flattening at the poles, is called an oblate spheroid.
From: Space, How Big is Earth?] (http://www.space.com/17638-how-big-is-earth.html)

So the ellipticity is only 0.00335!

But you are only out to make everything look ridiculous, and really it is starting to backfire on you.



Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 12, 2016, 08:11:38 PM
"NASA kill everyone" is because total number of NASA employees, including associates, is around 18 000 people.

When did I say "NASA kill everyone"?
...

In the second half of the second line.

Or you wanted to say "they would kill only someone and let others to approach The Edge"?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 13, 2016, 01:57:16 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 13, 2016, 03:53:44 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here",  with apologies to René Descartes.
Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 13, 2016, 03:59:40 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here",  with apologies to René Descartes.
Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".
I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 13, 2016, 04:11:26 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here",  with apologies to René Descartes.
Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".
I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.
Gee whiz, I hadn't thought of that, maybe I don't exist.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Aliveandkicking on September 13, 2016, 04:25:50 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here",  with apologies to René Descartes.
Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".
I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.
Gee whiz, I hadn't thought of that, maybe I don't exist.

Hey come back!  I was living there for a while.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 13, 2016, 04:36:17 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.
Hey, "I think I am here, therefore I am here",  with apologies to René Descartes.
Anyone who thinks Australia doesn't exist is "A few 'roos short in the top paddock!".
I think you are figment of my imagination or my other alter ego in this site who pretends to be australian(I have these blackouts sometimes...). Yes, thats it! How can anyone live in Australia when it does not exist.
Gee whiz, I hadn't thought of that, maybe I don't exist.
Hey come back!  I was living there for a while.
Too late, I'll have to scrounge a miniature copy of "Alice" and see if I can learn how to climb back out through the "Looking Glass", oops, too far!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 14, 2016, 01:52:06 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.

My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 14, 2016, 01:58:34 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.

My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can  they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on September 14, 2016, 02:02:21 AM
Exactly, plus you just know the Platypus is up to something, just look at him.

(https://s21.postimg.org/6lwdi43mr/images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6lwdi43mr/)

Plus Koalas just getting high all day, seems like an all too convenient cover story to me...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 14, 2016, 02:03:56 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.

My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can  they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.

Well, you know, all those koalas, kangaroos, eucalyptuses, ... sounded very convincimg. :)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on September 14, 2016, 02:07:51 AM
For the record, I've lived in Aus for the better part of 28 years.

Also I've driven around Australia via the coast and once straight through the desert.

Was just having a laugh, we as a community need more of that imho.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on September 14, 2016, 02:27:48 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.

My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can  they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.

Well, you know, all those koalas, kangaroos, eucalyptuses, ... sounded very convincimg. :)
It should be. And faking one smaller continent is definitely cheaper than faking entire round earth. They sure make lots of money showing koalas and other stuff. And they even crossbred beaver with a duck!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on September 14, 2016, 02:32:37 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.

My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can  they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.

Well, you know, all those koalas, kangaroos, eucalyptuses, ... sounded very convincimg. :)
It should be. And faking one smaller continent is definitely cheaper than faking entire round earth. They sure make lots of money showing koalas and other stuff. And they even crossbred beaver with a duck!

(https://s21.postimg.org/6lwdi43mr/images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6lwdi43mr/)

Can't argue with him there.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 14, 2016, 05:54:00 AM
Keep in mind, there is another thread debating the existence of Antarctica.
  You know, if I remember correctly then there was a thread (or part of  a thread) quite a while back where there as debate if Australia exists or it is just made up country. I have never been there and I don't know anyone personally there. All videos and news and statements about Australia may be faked and if you fly there then you are put down actually somewhere else and they tell you that you are in Australia. But you are not. Really, what is this about Australia and kangaroos and koalas and eucalyptus trees and whatever else. It just doesn't make sense and I really can't believe that Australia is real continent.

My aunt and my uncle live in Melbourne.
Their last name is Vrzina.
Maria and Tonci (Tony).
They live there for decades.
Sure. They are told that they live in Australia and they blindly believe it. Have they actually verified it? Went up so high that they can see all Australia continent? And in same time can they touch it, because you know, maybe they run some video/hologram outside the window to deceive you. How can  they be sure that it really is Australia where they live.

Well, you know, all those koalas, kangaroos, eucalyptuses, ... sounded very convincimg. :)
It should be. And faking one smaller continent is definitely cheaper than faking entire round earth. They sure make lots of money showing koalas and other stuff. And they even crossbred beaver with a duck!

(https://s21.postimg.org/6lwdi43mr/images.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/6lwdi43mr/)

Can't argue with him there.

Yes, we are supposed to be the smallest continent, but as a country Australia is not so small:
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/12532/GA6261.gif)
Australia/Europe
   
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0014/12533/GA6263.gif)
Australia/Japan
   
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0015/12534/GA6262.gif)
Australia/British Isles
   
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0016/12535/GA6264.gif)
Australia/United States
And Tasmania, our smallest state at 68,401 km2 is over three times area of the whole country of Wales, (at 20,761 km2) and it doesn't have any Dragons, only Tasmanian Devils.

Then our smallest mainland state, Victoria, is larger in area (at 237,629 km2) than England+Scotland+Wales (at 209,331 km2).

And finally, South Australia, our second smallest mainland state is much larger in area (at 984,377 km2) than that toy Lone Star State in the USA (at 695,662 km2).

So just watch it, or we loose Six White Boomers and a dozen Tassie Devils after you. That should put you to rights!

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: well rounded flat earther on September 14, 2016, 10:28:34 AM
Australia was a prison colony.  All of the inmates must have been set free on the condition that they become NASA shills (and pretend that Australia exists).  It's allllllllllll coming together now.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 14, 2016, 01:45:28 PM
The logic here is undeniable. - (sarcasm)
I commented about another thread stating Antarctica is lacking validity in terms of a contiguous continent,
Then for some reason the thread turns to an argument about Australia...?
Sounds like an attempt at a turning people away from an otherwise logical discussion.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 14, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
The logic here is undeniable. - (sarcasm)

Sounds like an attempt at a turning people away from an otherwise logical discussion.

 ::) I have never seen you engage in a "logical discussion"!  ::)
All you ever do is try to make others' explanations look ridiculous by taking little bits out of context and nit-picking the tiniest mistakes.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 14, 2016, 08:27:58 PM
Yes, we are supposed to be the smallest continent, but as a country Australia is not so small:
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/12532/GA6261.gif)
Australia/Europe
   
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0014/12533/GA6263.gif)
Australia/Japan
   
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0015/12534/GA6262.gif)
Australia/British Isles
   
(http://www.ga.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0016/12535/GA6264.gif)
Australia/United States
And Tasmania, our smallest state at 68,401 km2 is over three times area of the whole country of Wales, (at 20,761 km2) and it doesn't have any Dragons, only Tasmanian Devils.

Then our smallest mainland state, Victoria, is larger in area (at 237,629 km2) than England+Scotland+Wales (at 209,331 km2).

And finally, South Australia, our second smallest mainland state is much larger in area (at 984,377 km2) than that toy Lone Star State in the USA (at 695,662 km2).

So just watch it, or we loose Six White Boomers and a dozen Tassie Devils after you. That should put you to rights!



It seems to me that you are compensating for your inadequacies by comparing land area. 

Also, stop giving the koalas chlamydiae, rabinoz.   >:(
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 14, 2016, 08:58:52 PM
Also, stop giving the koalas chlamydiae, rabinoz.   >:(
Any decent mod would have you for an accusation like that.  :P Seen any around lately?  :P
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 17, 2016, 07:47:45 PM
I believe their technology far exceeds our comprehension, and they have means of creating a realistic false image anywhere they please. If one believes they have the capacity to keep a secret such as the shape of our Earth, then why not instruments capable of deceiving the human eye flawlessly. Such technology would explain the appearances of the I.S.S. and satellites as well. They may be using the firmament itself as a projection point, or they may have the capacity to breach this barrier and project from the outside, although that is not likely the case.
There is a quote "History is written by the victors". I understand that it would be a fallacy to ignore all written history, but one must realize that if in fact we have been lied to all our lives, many other facets of our known reality may also be untruthful. Its funny that Rabinoz brings up the globular Earth being settled 2500 years ago, for that is around the same time the Freemasons were officially recognized, or so were told. Of course, their plans may not have included projection beams and aliens, but then again, they may have known more than we think.
Freemasons are 2500 years old?  That's news.  You have to make a huge amount of assumptions for any of your ideas to work
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 20, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
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"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/

5th Century BCE= 450 BC= 2500 Years ago.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: SpJunk on September 20, 2016, 07:34:03 PM
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Masonry is the building of structures from individual units laid in and bound together by mortar;
the term masonry can also refer to the units themselves.

The common materials of masonry construction are brick, building stone such as
marble, granite, travertine, and limestone, cast stone, concrete block, glass block, and cob.

Masonry is generally a highly durable form of construction.
However, the materials used, the quality of the mortar and workmanship,
and the pattern in which the units are assembled can significantly affect
the durability of the overall masonry construction.

A person who constructs masonry is called a mason or bricklayer.


My father in 1959 built his (our) first house, where I was born in 1960, and my sister in 1964.
So, he was mason, before he retired.
He was, and still is, Orthodox Christian.
My mother is Roman Catholic.

I'm neither.

I can say I could believe in God, but I'm not sure.
(Sorry, God, my nature requires proof. If you created me, you already know that.)

In religions I don't believe at all. It is all politics.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 21, 2016, 07:40:14 PM
Stone masons and a secret society called Freemasons are two different things.
There is a joke I once told often.

An old religious man lived in a town that was becoming slowly flooded.
Yelling and shouting, a few passing neighbors wanted to help him escape.
He ignored them, and shoo'd them away; he said "God will save me".
Everyone gave up after seeing his stubborn attitude.
A few hours later, a man in a life raft paddled by. He asked if the old man needed help escaping.
Lo, the old man responded; "No, God will save me". So the raft was paddled away.
Then, when the old man was on his roof, with water surrounding him on all sides, a helicopter hovered nearby.
Yelling from the helicopter the crew asked if he needed rescue, the old man responded "No, God will save me."

The old man drowned. When he saw God in the afterlife, he asked why he was not saved!
God said, "I tried, but you ignored all the miracles I sent to save you."

I can say I could believe in God, but I'm not sure.
(Sorry, God, my nature requires proof. If you created me, you already know that.)

Sometimes the proof is right in front of you.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 22, 2016, 08:35:39 AM
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"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
The craft was in existence, not the organization that is Freemasons.  Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.
5th Century BCE= 450 BC= 2500 Years ago.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 22, 2016, 08:51:06 AM
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"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/

5th Century BCE= 450 BC= 2500 Years ago.
Yeah, legendary history - it's bollocks.  In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century, though stone masons guilds had been around since the Middle Ages.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 22, 2016, 10:13:08 AM
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"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

-http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/

5th Century BCE= 450 BC= 2500 Years ago.
Yeah, legendary history - it's bollocks.  In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century, though stone masons guilds had been around since the Middle Ages.
Thanks, that's what I was trying to say but it only posted the quote and not my comments.  Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary in fact.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 23, 2016, 11:24:18 AM
Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.

I just did, it is not my fault that you do not understand that the craft cannot exist without the organization.
Thats not how it works...

"In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century."

"Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary..."

That's just when they created a "club" for the people who questioned their methods, to shut them up.

(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-801933d3a7c4b034ec0503df91a106d4-c?convert_to_webp=true)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 24, 2016, 09:26:34 AM
Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.

I just did, it is not my fault that you do not understand that the craft cannot exist without the organization.
Thats not how it works...

"In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century."

"Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary..."

That's just when they created a "club" for the people who questioned their methods, to shut them up.

(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-801933d3a7c4b034ec0503df91a106d4-c?convert_to_webp=true)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 24, 2016, 09:30:58 AM
Please show me some evidence they existed that long ago.

I just did, it is not my fault that you do not understand that the craft cannot exist without the organization.
Thats not how it works...

"In reality Freemasonery started in the 18th century."

"Masons just celebrated their 300th anniversary..."

That's just when they created a "club" for the people who questioned their methods, to shut them up.

(https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-801933d3a7c4b034ec0503df91a106d4-c?convert_to_webp=true)
Actually did not show any such evidence, you simply made the claim.  As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.  Skills are handed down from craftsman to his apprentice.  In fact the very idea that you would form a club, and THEN develope the craft is completely ridiculous.
Also how would forming a very famous club shut people up.  It would have, in fact the opposite affect.  Your statements don't make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 26, 2016, 07:51:58 AM
As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.

So... Basketball can be played by one person?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 26, 2016, 12:12:02 PM
As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.

So... Basketball can be played by one person?
Not really seeing the relevance there.  But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on September 26, 2016, 05:07:05 PM
As for a craft existing without the organization, of course if can.

So... Basketball can be played by one person?
Your reading comprehension level, as usual, seems quite non-existent.

From what I can find YOU are the only one to have mentioned "Basketball".
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 27, 2016, 04:06:36 PM
But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.

Wrong. I am saying to play basketball, or produce live music with a rock band, more than one person is required.
Akin to making music, or playing a team sport, Freemasonry requires more than one human to accomplish.
Kept in secrecy, Freemasonry is not merely the simple act of shaping stone, it is the craft of shaping much more.
Exemplified by their need for many ceremonies, secrecy, and ranks; What use would stone workers have for this?

Uncovering the whole truth is impossible, but seeking it reveals their true nature.
Purportedly, many figures from history are Freemasons, including Edwin Aldrin and many other Apollo astronauts.

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"Included among the men alleged to be our ancient Brothers include Euclid, Pythagoras, Moses, and even Jesus of Nazareth. Allusions to their inclusion is even reinforced in popular culture of the 20th century by Masons such as Walt Disney..."

"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/



Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 27, 2016, 04:13:58 PM
But if you want to go with that what you are saying is, the NBA formed and then looked around for a sport to play, created it, trained people in and started having games.

Wrong. I am saying to play basketball, or produce live music with a rock band, more than one person is required.
Akin to making music, or playing a team sport, Freemasonry requires more than one human to accomplish.
Kept in secrecy, Freemasonry is not merely the simple act of shaping stone, it is the craft of shaping much more.
Exemplified by their need for many ceremonies, secrecy, and ranks; What use would stone workers have for this?

Uncovering the whole truth is impossible, but seeking it reveals their true nature.
Purportedly, many figures from history are Freemasons, including Edwin Aldrin and many other Apollo astronauts.

Quote
"Included among the men alleged to be our ancient Brothers include Euclid, Pythagoras, Moses, and even Jesus of Nazareth. Allusions to their inclusion is even reinforced in popular culture of the 20th century by Masons such as Walt Disney..."

"The legendary history of Freemasonry alleges that the craft was in existence at the time of the building of King Solomon’s temple;...from the time of King Solomon which reference the existence of Freemasonry, it is a historical fact that the Temple was constructed in the 10th Century BCE, and destroyed in the 5th century BCE"

http://freemason-wa.org/freemasons/history/
Not really sure how we got on this tangent but the point is you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft.
I notice you throw out a lot of, purportedly, and it's said that, but when asked to name those many founding members of nasa who were Mason's you failed. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 29, 2016, 12:28:43 PM
"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."

In this case, the craft and the organization are one in the same.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 08:44:05 AM
"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."

In this case, the craft and the organization are one in the same.
It just doesn't work that way and you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 30, 2016, 09:24:11 AM
"It just doesn't work that way..."

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So what is Freemasonry? Simply put, it's the world's oldest and largest fraternity.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

"...you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity"

I suggest you read the entire thread
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 09:37:13 AM
"It just doesn't work that way..."

Quote
So what is Freemasonry? Simply put, it's the world's oldest and largest fraternity.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

"...you have presented no evidence of any nefarious activity"

I suggest you read the entire thread
I have, lost of innuendo, lots of unsupported statements, lots of, we are told, some people think etc.  no so much by way of fact.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Mainframes on September 30, 2016, 10:40:04 AM
"...you have to have the craft before you have the organization of that craft."

In this case, the craft and the organization are one in the same.

Yes but the craft of masonry developed before the Freemasons. The Freemasons originated to protect the secrets of the craft of masonry.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 30, 2016, 11:08:29 AM
The Freemasons originated to protect the secrets of the craft of masonry.

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If you want to be a Freemason, you can petition a local lodge for membership.
You'll need to demonstrate good character and belief in some sort of Supreme Being.
Oh, and in almost all lodges, it's men only.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

Yeah... that does not sound like an organization for people who carve stones...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 11:15:07 AM
The Freemasons originated to protect the secrets of the craft of masonry.

Quote
If you want to be a Freemason, you can petition a local lodge for membership.
You'll need to demonstrate good character and belief in some sort of Supreme Being.
Oh, and in almost all lodges, it's men only.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-secret-world-of-the-freemasons/

Yeah... that does not sound like an organization for people who carve stones...
It's certainly grown beyond that.  Now it's pretty much a rich guys social club.  But that is how it started.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on September 30, 2016, 11:39:39 AM
It's certainly grown beyond that.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7d/80/40/7d804094c35d7948aa4460e6e1bf5262.jpg)

(http://library.hrmtc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/hall-freemasonry-of-the-ancient-egyptians-philosophical-research-society.jpg)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L3hC8tLEyrY/hqdefault.jpg)

(http://watch.pair.com/eye.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 12:00:53 PM
It's certainly grown beyond that.
Still not seeing anything nefarious.  And no idea where you got some of those images

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7d/80/40/7d804094c35d7948aa4460e6e1bf5262.jpg)

(http://library.hrmtc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/hall-freemasonry-of-the-ancient-egyptians-philosophical-research-society.jpg)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/L3hC8tLEyrY/hqdefault.jpg)

(http://watch.pair.com/eye.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on September 30, 2016, 12:13:56 PM
A lot of astronauts are and were masons. Is there any reason for this?

http://freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/famous/masonic-astronauts/


More masons.

http://www.mastermason.com/lakeshorelodge307/famous_freemasons.htm
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on September 30, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
A lot of astronauts are and were masons. Is there any reason for this?

http://freemasoninformation.com/masonic-education/famous/masonic-astronauts/


More masons.

http://www.mastermason.com/lakeshorelodge307/famous_freemasons.htm
Your list shows 10.  I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on October 01, 2016, 10:15:51 AM
I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

Pete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.

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"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

This is the kind of person that gets to go to space?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on October 01, 2016, 01:27:17 PM
I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

Pete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.

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"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

This is the kind of person that gets to go to space?
I would assume there is more to the story.  You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.
What is your point with this?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on October 02, 2016, 09:48:14 PM
I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

Pete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.

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"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

This is the kind of person that gets to go to space?
I would assume there is more to the story.  You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.
What is your point with this?

There is more to the story...
After Mr. Conrad committed those acts, NASA found him, and actively persuaded him to be an astronaut.
Please, explain how any rational real reputable company would employ someone with that background.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on October 03, 2016, 05:33:50 AM
I don't consider that a lot out of the hundreds that have gone to space

Pete Conrad was the first non-Freemason to set foot on the moon.

Quote
"Unlike his fellow candidates, Conrad rebelled against the regimen. During a Rorschach inkblot test, he told the psychiatrist that one blot card revealed a sexual encounter complete with lurid detail. When shown a blank card, he turned it around, pushed it back and replied, "It's upside down". Then when he was asked to deliver a stool sample to the onsite lab, he placed it in a gift box and tied a red ribbon around it. After dropping his full enema bag on the desk of the clinic’s commanding officer, he walked out. His initial application to NASA was denied..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Conrad

This is the kind of person that gets to go to space?
I would assume there is more to the story.  You tend to cherry pick and take things out of context.
What is your point with this?

There is more to the story...
After Mr. Conrad committed those acts, NASA found him, and actively persuaded him to be an astronaut.
Please, explain how any rational real reputable company would employ someone with that background.
As with so much of what you say, I am not sure what your point is here.  Nor do I have any interest in going off into the weeds over one of hundreds of astronauts because don't like their character.
How is this relevant to some alleged mega agency being able to project images when and where they want onto some fictional dome that covers the earth?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on October 03, 2016, 10:06:57 AM
How is this relevant to some alleged mega agency being able to project images when and where they want onto some fictional dome that covers the earth?

It lends credit to how ridiculously slanderous NASA is, and obviously how unpredictable they are.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on October 03, 2016, 02:39:01 PM
How is this relevant to some alleged mega agency being able to project images when and where they want onto some fictional dome that covers the earth?

It lends credit to how ridiculously slanderous NASA is, and obviously how unpredictable they are.
Slanderous?  In what way?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on October 03, 2016, 03:19:42 PM
The Masons is just where the rich and powerful congregate. It truly is the world's oldest fraternity.

The threat of people pulling the strings in the shadows is nothing new. Just read George Washington's memoirs. I read them once every few years, I learn something new every time , it grips me every time, it's fantastic.

However, the "shadow groups" are not hard to find...just follow the money, that has never changed. Washington knew to keep the world banks out...he fought to, and every president did after him knowing the detrimental consequences if they were let in. Until Wilson pulled a Judas for a few shekels (which he mourned his regret later)...

Biggest Ponzi scheme ever pulled off....a government pays you insane interest to print money for a fiat money system lol... amazing..every government in history failed when they did not control supply and print their own currency in a fiat system.

Whoops sorry off topic...whole point..want your shadow string pullers..don't look at NASA, government, or anywhere else. Look at the federal reserve system and the world banks for each government. You know...the ones no one talks about, that you only hear for just a blurb on the news if at all...just like a magic show...look at the blinking lights while they work their "magic" in the shadows.

Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money.  :)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on October 03, 2016, 03:57:46 PM
Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money.  :)

That's really interesting, I haven't looked into that much to be honest, I will now.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on October 04, 2016, 03:32:26 AM
Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money.  :)

That's really interesting, I haven't looked into that much to be honest, I will now.

Just look at the war patterns...why do you think all the talk (in the states) is Iran. They have their own currency, they have almost 0 debt per capita, have extreme backing in oil and gold. I have spent much time there, as I still have some high end clients that are from that region.

Guess what their banks pay for interest in a basic savings account...15 percent. Compare that to .45 percent to the states and most other places under the world Bank control.

The world Bank hates countries like Iran...they have no control over them. Countries they control the money in, they have complete control over, just release or recall available money supply to control inflation. Devalue or raise the value of the entire country just like that. All the while collecting interest on this money for zero reason...it is an ingenious Ponzi scheme at the cost of 100s of millions of people (billions if you go world wide)..

However, countries like Iran they have no control over like this. So they must use the countries they already have control over (just take a look at the counties currently effecting Iran) to place trade and currency embargoes on Iran. It is really starting to hurt them.

I went there 4 months ago and the economy is really starting to suffer. Plus you can't pull money out unless you want to lose 50 percent of its value on the black market.

I have a customer who has 535 billion irr stuck there (about 17 million usd) if he brought moved it here, he would lose about 70 percent of the total value.

This is just an example of one country during a brief moment in time.


People here want their boogie man, there is one right in front of you. Any group of people whom enslaves entire nations for their own power and control....I think that makes NASA and whatever else proposed hucksters on this site small potatoes.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on October 04, 2016, 05:48:38 AM
Plus..ever wonder why the only countries getting attacked and "demonized" are countries with out world banks?? You know ..the ones where the government prints their own money.  :)
What do you mean by "world bank"??  Here in the UK we don't have a "world bank" we have our own national bank, like most countries.  The Bank of England set interest rates and prints money.  I'm really not sure what you are getting at.

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Just look at the war patterns...why do you think all the talk (in the states) is Iran. They have their own currency, they have almost 0 debt per capita,
Well, their national debt is around $66 billion, or 18% of GPD - good by international standards, but not zero.  Let's face it, who's going to lend them any serious money?  It's a very poor country.  The reason places like the US and the UK can borrow such large amounts is because they are considered good for it.

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Guess what their banks pay for interest in a basic savings account...15 percent.
Yeah, their high interest rates were brought in to control their spiraling inflation!  Inflation hit nearly 40% a few years ago, so 15% on savings would mean any savings accounts would be wiped out in the space of a few years.  15% is nothing with those inflation rates.

Inflation has now come down to about 10%, the lowest in 25 years, so they are starting to lower interest rates - standard practice is to have them about 1-2% above inflation.

Iran has a central bank along the lines of most countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran)

What do you think is radically different about it?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on October 04, 2016, 07:52:27 AM
Oh Mr. Crab....I know you HATE anything that challenges your world view. However, this is no conspiracy, just simple math and economics...follow the money, then you will find some "fun" (completely sarcastic here) facts.

As to your comments...I was speaking of central banks that control money flow into an economy (it's inflation rate etc), and charges interest to the government on every piece of currency provided. Also, keep in mind Iranian currency is still backed by oil and gold.

Although there is a central bank there, the government controls that bank, not the other way around. They pay no interest on money production, nor is in debt to the IMF.

As a matter of fact in 2002 the Iranian government created a separate organization to over see the extra production of currency to fight the sanctions placed on them. Which is actually around the time they started to be put in the media heavily and "demonized".

So since the IMF WTO g10 etc cannot screw with them, they do the next best thing...place sanctions, trade embargos, change currency values, and drop the price of crude oil (there currency is heavily based on crude). Attempting to destroy their economy and destroy their currency value which is working.

So yes big difference between yours and my monetary system and Iran's.

As for the debt issue....if you read very carefully you will see i said "almost" debt free. Nothing wrong with WANTED investments by a country.

I would say 800 dollars per capita vs 60,000 dollars per capita (America)or 140,000 per capita (UK)...800 dollars would be "almost" 0 debt.



The IMF is trying to bankrupt iran and then pull the usual trick used on countries previously out of their control, or destitute poor countries.

Broke??? No problem...here is a loan (ridiculous interest, impossible to meet the demands, especially on a country broke enough to be forced that route anyways)

Can't pay us back??? No problem...let us put one of our banks in control of your currency, we will keep you supplied of money, it will only cost you a small fee per piece of currency. We will back everything and your country shall become rich and prosperous  ::)


Just imagine being able to disrupt/change an entire nation by simply adding or subtracting 5 percent. You want true power, there you have it.

Is it not a coincidence every major president or person or high ranking power warned against giving the banks that power? They learned from England where they fought to free themselves of.


Oh hell...I will keep rambling I am done. If you find it ok that a private for profit conglomeration has power to print your money, charge you for it, and control your country..then I suppose we will never agree on anything.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on October 04, 2016, 08:23:41 AM
Oh Mr. Crab....I know you HATE anything that challenges your world view.
Actually I enjoy it - I'm just trying to work out what you are actually claiming, as you're all over the place and come across as economically illiterate.  I'm not really sure how you know what my world view is anyway, you just don't like people contradicting you, so throw that shit around.  Lazy debating.

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As to your comments...I was speaking of central banks that control money flow into an economy (it's inflation rate etc)
So why did you keep saying "world banks"?  And central banks attempt to control inflation indirectly through monetary policy, generally speaking.

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, and charges interest to the government on every piece of currency provided. Also, keep in mind Iranian currency is still backed by oil and gold.
The Bank of England is a non-profit organisation, like most central banks, and doesn't charge interest on currency creation.

Iran loses money on every barrel of oil it sells at the moment, and will do until oil prices rise substantially.  It does not have a gold backed currency.

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So since the IMF WTO g10 etc cannot screw with them, they do the next best thing...place sanctions, trade embargos, change currency values, and drop the price of crude oil (there currency is heavily based on crude). Attempting to destroy their economy and destroy their currency value which is working.

So yes big difference between yours and my monetary system and Iran's.

As for the debt issue....if you read very carefully you will see i said "almost" debt free. Nothing wrong with WANTED investments by a country.

I would say 800 dollars per capita vs 60,000 dollars per capita (America)or 140,000 per capita (UK)...800 dollars would be "almost" 0 debt.



The IMF is trying to bankrupt iran and then pull the usual trick used on countries previously out of their control, or destitute poor countries.

Broke??? No problem...here is a loan (ridiculous interest, impossible to meet the demands, especially on a country broke enough to be forced that route anyways)

Can't pay us back??? No problem...let us put one of our banks in control of your currency, we will keep you supplied of money, it will only cost you a small fee per piece of currency. We will back everything and your country shall become rich and prosperous  ::)


Just imagine being able to disrupt/change an entire nation by simply adding or subtracting 5 percent. You want true power, there you have it.

Is it not a coincidence every major president or person or high ranking power warned against giving the banks that power? They learned from England where they fought to free themselves of.


Oh hell...I will keep rambling I am done.

Yes, this is just rambling - hint font size changes look a bit unhinged.

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If you find it ok that a private for profit conglomeration has power to print your money, charge you for it, and control your country.
Where did I say that?  Pure strawman.

Agreed the USA and it's allies have been waging economic war on Iran for decades (it's hardly a secret) and, not surprisingly, Iran has been losing.  Hopefully things are starting to change and Iran can start to open up and flourish, it's got a lot of pontential - I'd really like to visit the place one day.

Keep in mind it's not just the USA that's been fucking them over - the country is ruled by a fascist theocracy and the horribly corrupt Revolutionary Guard who control pretty much every aspect of Iran's society.  A bunch of very wealthy clerics, army officers and bureaucrats pocket much of the wealth coming into the country - pretty much all of the oil is controlled by the Guard.  I'm not sure why you think this is such a great model for the Iranian people?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on October 04, 2016, 09:18:58 AM
I'm not really sure how you know what my world view is anyway, you just don't like people contradicting you, so throw that shit around.  Lazy debating

I don't know your world view, I can only go off the history of your post. Things that cause you to chime in, and the content of your post.

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So why did you keep saying "world banks"?  And central banks attempt to control inflation indirectly through monetary policy, generally speaking.

I kept saying world banks for short hand. Communication has never been one of my strongest points, hence why I work in a field where it is not super important. I have no problem being challenged with valid facts and points. Will even change my position with no qualms if there is enough water.

Do you not find it wrong and precarious that a small group of people have control one way or another over all these central banks actions? For countries who dont wanna play, these people can just move a few numbers around a collapse an entire economy?

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The Bank of England is a non-profit organisation, like most central banks, and doesn't charge interest on currency creation.

Iran loses money on every barrel of oil it sells at the moment, and will do until oil prices rise substantially.  It does not have a gold backed currency.
I said oil and gold...I also said mostly oil. Just wanted to include the gold, as it is a percentage, albeit under 10 but it is still there.

I am absolutely aware of the detrimental effect of crude oil on Iran which is why I said it (I was there 6 months ago, their economy is not good right now). Why do you think the prices are where they are...form of control.

As for England ...yes "technically" the bank is a "non profit" right now, although they used to be privately owned. The change was just for show...now they are used as a control source for the other banks and for a veil of secrecy (hence why they are not subject to the same disclosure all other banks are in the UK).

As for the control source I mentioned, they are a hub for all the other UK banks control. Just look at your currency there...97 percent of your money supply is interest bearing money issued by commercial banks.

Same trick, just a little better hid. The general populous in the U.K. are a bit more in depth than those in the states. The general population here still thinks the federal reserve is owned by the government and not a private for profit entity....it says federal ::)

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Yes, this is just rambling - hint font size changes look a bit unhinged.
I see nothing out of order...facts about comparisons of the counties debts. The IMF game they play is easy to find fact, just look at their history. A small group of people having the power to shift nations through the control of/value of/ and supply of currency is a simple statement. Easily proven, and it is obviously the recipe for disaster. History can show that, and so will the future.

If this is "unhinged" to you then I apologize...though as you so poetically stated earlier...this is more than likely just lazy debating on your part

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Agreed the USA and it's allies have been waging economic war on Iran for decades (it's hardly a secret) and, not surprisingly, Iran has been losing.  Hopefully things are starting to change and Iran can start to open up and flourish, it's got a lot of pontential - I'd really like to visit the place one day.

Keep in mind it's not just the USA that's been fucking them over - the country is ruled by a fascist theocracy and the horribly corrupt Revolutionary Guard who control pretty much every aspect of Iran's society.  A bunch of very wealthy clerics, army officers and bureaucrats pocket much of the wealth coming into the country - pretty much all of the oil is controlled by the Guard.  I'm not sure why you think this is such a great model for the Iranian people?

I do not think their model of government or society is fantastic. I have never said that. As a few customers of mine are Iranian (or Persian depends on their age) natives (one was the first reason I had to travel to Iran) say "beautiful country...horrible government". The old timer was in the country during the time the shah was booted. So I get some pretty fun up close history of the land. Also have spent about a month and a half combined time there.

I simply used them as an example of what happens to a country when they don't play ball. How they are a public enemy until they do. Also of how different a monetary system they have since they control their currency.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on October 07, 2016, 08:42:23 AM
NASA's Project Blue Beam and the C.I.A.'s Project Blue Bird both has its roots with the Nazis.
As well as both dealing with mind control.
So, where I come from, that would be called a connection.
Also, these decisions were made without acknowledgement from the democratic public, making them illegal!

(https://s9.postimg.org/sftf9wfen/Intelligence.jpg)
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/osi_1949_68_volume_1.pdf


The above is taken from the C.I.A. O.S.I. historical reference and brings up good points.
OSI's first director... Is a mystery. Allegedly it is Willard Machle, but some sources say he was only an assistant.
Please, do some research on him, and one will find his past shrouded in mystery, in all likely hood, he was a Nazi.
Pretending these facts mean nothing, could turn to out to be a fatal error in moral judgement.
Letting a government made for the people by the people bypass the people is wrong on all accounts.
Explain how making a judgement call affecting the populace can be made without asking the populace.
Do not say it was in the name of national security, it is meaningless to "secure" the people without their permission.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 10, 2016, 10:35:10 AM
Wow, after being accused of being N30, I looked into his posts. This is some pretty heavy stuff... Is this really why he got banned?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Papa Legba on December 10, 2016, 11:20:52 AM
Wow, after being accused of being N30, I looked into his posts. This is some pretty heavy stuff... Is this really why he got banned?

Trying to discuss Masonry here is a no-no; you will either be banned or ignored.

This is not at all suspicious of course...

Read this if you want to know their agenda:

http://www.paradiselost.org/8-Search-All.html
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on December 10, 2016, 02:18:52 PM
Wow, after being accused of being N30, I looked into his posts. This is some pretty heavy stuff... Is this really why he got banned?
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here.  And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Papa Legba on December 10, 2016, 02:34:47 PM
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here.  And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.

Sock-puppets remember everything, even what the sock-puppet mods did...

Lol busted!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on December 10, 2016, 02:37:09 PM
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here.  And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.

Sock-puppets remember everything, even what the sock-puppet mods did...

Lol busted!

Right....so a good memory means sock puppet??

So by that level...you are the master sock puppet. You bring up posts from years before, quotes from years before, even what people do on YouTube and other sites from years and years before.

Interesting...


Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 10, 2016, 02:39:27 PM
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here.  And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.

Sock-puppets remember everything, even what the sock-puppet mods did...

Lol busted!

Right....so a good memory means sock puppet??

So by that level...you are the master sock puppet. You bring up posts from years before, quotes from years before, even what people do on YouTube and other sites from years and years before.

Interesting...

Boom!

Yeah, N30 was only bammed for a day or so. Sometimes that is all it takes for them to leave forever, or ditch that account and create a new one.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on December 10, 2016, 03:07:21 PM
Wow, after being accused of being N30, I looked into his posts. This is some pretty heavy stuff... Is this really why he got banned?
It was me who "accused" you of being N30. Well, more like stated it could have been a possibility.
But now we all know who you are. And it looks like being accused of being N30 is making you jealous..
Sock-puppets remember everything is right. Why else would you bump this dumb thread?

BOOM²
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on December 10, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
As I recall he got banned for lying and misquoting people here.  And according to space cowgirl it was only for a couple days.

Sock-puppets remember everything, even what the sock-puppet mods did...

While SickPapaBots can't even tell the difference between the Gulf Stream and the ISS.
Quote from: Wikipedia
Gulf Stream
The Gulf Stream, together with its northern extension towards Europe, the North Atlantic Drift, is a powerful, warm, and swift Atlantic ocean current that originates in the Gulf of Mexico and stretches to the tip of Florida, and follows the eastern coastlines of the United States and Newfoundland before crossing the Atlantic Ocean.

Or was that a  ??? Gulfstream G650  ???, not the ocean current - could never remember which!

The used to be bear-baiting, now there's  ;D PapaBot-baiting  ;D - much less dangerous, and not even illegal!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 11, 2016, 08:33:32 PM
What are you even talking about? Jealous? I cant even understand what you are saying. Bear bot babble bastards.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 16, 2016, 09:57:17 PM
The used to be bear-baiting, now there's  ;D PapaBot-baiting  ;D - much less dangerous, and not even illegal!

Didn't Papa Legba just get banned? Your'e talking about baiting him and deliberately pissing him off... Thats not fair...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 19, 2016, 09:35:50 PM
This is why humanity will suffer a loss of life incomparable to any in history. We have become accustomed to evil. We recognize wrong doings yet do nothing to correct them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Facing evil is not fun, nor easy, or safe. Why would someone want to? Its hard to sacrifice part of your own life just to stop something that would not effect you otherwise. But you would be wrong in thinking that. For the longer you go leaving evil unchecked, the more you let evil check you.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on December 20, 2016, 03:31:32 AM
This is why humanity will suffer a loss of life incomparable to any in history. We have become accustomed to evil. We recognize wrong doings yet do nothing to correct them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Facing evil is not fun, nor easy, or safe. Why would someone want to? Its hard to sacrifice part of your own life just to stop something that would not effect you otherwise. But you would be wrong in thinking that. For the longer you go leaving evil unchecked, the more you let evil check you.
Yes, all that is very true, but
what does it  have to do with the shape of the earth?
Absolutely nothing!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on December 20, 2016, 03:41:53 AM
This is why humanity will suffer a loss of life incomparable to any in history. We have become accustomed to evil. We recognize wrong doings yet do nothing to correct them. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Facing evil is not fun, nor easy, or safe. Why would someone want to? Its hard to sacrifice part of your own life just to stop something that would not effect you otherwise. But you would be wrong in thinking that. For the longer you go leaving evil unchecked, the more you let evil check you.
Yes, all that is very true, but
what does it  have to do with the shape of the earth?
Absolutely nothing!

War, what is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it, war, good god now, what is it good for?
Absolutely nothing, say it, (war)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 20, 2016, 07:10:58 AM
Actually I think it has a very strong connection to flat earth. For one thing, these are both considered tin foil hat conspiracies. And we all know what it means when a form of authority says something is off limits... It is a threat to their authority. I know there are people who are convinced that earth is flat, but will not voice their opinion publicly. Doing so is evil. It is not spreading truth! If the cure for cancer was created, but kept secret, that would be evil! The flat earth is a cure for the brainwashing we have all recieved. Mankind will shed its vicious oppressors and it will be done so through the flat earth truth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 21, 2016, 06:52:48 AM
I think a plan like blue beam is a trillion more times likely to be a reality than aliens.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 21, 2016, 08:45:58 AM
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on December 21, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
Well after 10 pages what else is there to discuss? You're the one who bumped it, what exactly do you want from it?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 21, 2016, 08:39:57 PM
I would like to talk about the topic. Mind control was the last subject at hand I believe. Something about the CIA and NASA working together.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on December 21, 2016, 10:29:00 PM
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.
They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 28, 2016, 11:19:41 AM
Was the "war of the worlds" radio fiasco an attempt at an earlier implementation of a plan to enslave most of earths population? Just like Blue Beam...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on December 28, 2016, 11:25:54 AM
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.
They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.

If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 28, 2016, 11:30:37 AM
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.
They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.

If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?

(To be read in the voice of a Televangelist preacher)

YES my child!! SAL-VAY-SHUN can be YOURS if you simply BELIEVE!!!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on December 28, 2016, 11:39:31 AM
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.
They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.

If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?

(To be read in the voice of a Televangelist preacher)

YES my child!! SAL-VAY-SHUN can be YOURS if you simply BELIEVE!!!

Yes, but that is generally based on a belief in Jesus and his plan of salvation.

What I want to know is if believing in a flat earth will set me free.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 28, 2016, 11:45:20 AM
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.
They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.

If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?

(To be read in the voice of a Televangelist preacher)

YES my child!! SAL-VAY-SHUN can be YOURS if you simply BELIEVE!!!

Yes, but that is generally based on a belief in Jesus and his plan of salvation.

What I want to know is if believing in a flat earth will set me free.

I was attempting to draw a parallel between a baseless belief in a flat earth and a baseless belief in a magic man who may or may not have existed thousands of years ago.

Flat Earth is a religion, plain and simple. It requires one to abandon all logical thought and evidence in favor of a belief that allows you to feel superior.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on December 28, 2016, 12:01:12 PM
DELET THIS

DUN
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 28, 2016, 12:05:30 PM
I am not a grammar Nazi as you seem to believe. I have let many typos go unattended to. What I will make a fuss about however, is the fact that you ignore my question, and go on spamming posts about totally unrelated things. I was talking about radio war of the worlds event. That was completely overlooked, and for what? You make the convo about me instead of the topic.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on December 28, 2016, 12:12:31 PM
I am not a grammar Nazi as you seem to believe. I have let many typos go unattended to. What I will make a fuss about however, is the fact that you ignore my question, and go on spamming posts about totally unrelated things. I was talking about radio war of the worlds event. That was completely overlooked, and for what? You make the convo about me instead of the topic.

Well I asked a question as well. I am trying to figure out how I can be set free by believing in a flat earth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on December 28, 2016, 12:20:22 PM
I love how the shill brigade stears clear of this thread. They'll argue about Jesus goop and nonsense all day long but not about human enslavement.
They think nothing about being slaves. Their masters have told them they are free. And just like a good slave, they believe the master.

If I believe in a flat earth will I be set free?
If you believe in your heart. You will see the myriad of deceptions set about you. But if you want to believe your master. That everything is ok just as your master presents.You will be happy in your cage.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 28, 2016, 12:43:49 PM
You also asked your question in response to my question, indicating a want to avoid answering or discussing what my question presented.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on December 28, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
Was the "war of the worlds" radio fiasco an attempt at an earlier implementation of a plan to enslave most of earths population? Just like Blue Beam...

I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: New Earth on December 28, 2016, 02:44:31 PM
This whole firmament theory or the dome theory is just as bad as the spinning globe. Both the globe and the dome constitute an enclosed area, limited amount of space. IF you believe in a domed flat earth you better of believing in the globe because honestly the globe makes more sense. Infinite earth is the only flat earth theory that makes sense, if you abandon that and start listening to assholes like Eric Dubay that's when you fail as flat earther.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 28, 2016, 03:02:55 PM
Oh? So youre willing to believe in an infinite plane created by God with no limits, but not a firm barrier between us and Him? Why cant the dome be infinite as well? There is obviously a center to our Earth, the magnetic compasses point to something. That something is most likely the key to answering the question of whether or not our plane of existence is infinite and if it has a cover or not. Also if the war of the worlds radio broadcast was not proven to be a hoax as quickly as it was, what was to stop those who planned the event from instigating major changes in washington? An alien patriot act perhaps...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 28, 2016, 06:35:53 PM
What would an infinite dome look like?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 28, 2016, 06:38:49 PM
What does infinity look like?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 28, 2016, 06:49:16 PM
What does infinity look like?

To me, nothing.

Infinity is the space of inky blackness between stars. In my mind, the only thing that is infinite is space itself.

I am, however, having trouble picturing an infinite dome, because a dome must connect with a surface at a discrete point, otherwise it is not a dome but an infinite barrier.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 28, 2016, 06:59:29 PM
Well there ya go. It looks like nothing because you cannot, and will not ever see it. It is beyond humanly sight. Like God. You cannot prove infinity exists, but smart people know that It does.

Genesis 1:7-8 "And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters above the firmament and it was so."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 28, 2016, 07:10:37 PM
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As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Leviticus 25:44-46

Don't get your science from the Old Testament, it is insanely dated.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 29, 2016, 04:54:31 AM
I guess so are the ten commandments, yeah?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 29, 2016, 07:05:29 AM
I guess so are the ten commandments, yeah?

What scientific data do you get from the 10 commandments?

This Psalm seems to be all about loving thy neighbor, no?

Psalm 137:9

"Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!"
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 29, 2016, 08:28:17 AM
Psalm 14:1 Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil;

You should explain the context. Those babies are of those who are enemies of God. If I were you I would not mock Him.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: New Earth on December 29, 2016, 12:31:42 PM
The existence of God has nothing to do with firmament. If anything firmament refers to another dimension. God is in another dimension. But there is no physical firmament or the dome. However earth does have vertical limitations. As I stated in my other posts rockets or space shuttles cannot fly past certain heights. I don't think its the dome thou.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 30, 2016, 03:21:20 PM

You should explain the context.

Murdering children by smashing them against rocks is never right, regardless of the context. Jesus could have told you that.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 30, 2016, 05:21:00 PM

You should explain the context.

Murdering children by smashing them against rocks is never right, regardless of the context. Jesus could have told you that.

I dont believe God ever allowed those babies to be smashed. You just quoted a curse from an angry isrealite out of context. Just to make the bible sound bad. Like I said, I would not mock Him if I were you.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 30, 2016, 06:20:32 PM

You should explain the context.

Murdering children by smashing them against rocks is never right, regardless of the context. Jesus could have told you that.

I dont believe God ever allowed those babies to be smashed. You just quoted a curse from an angry isrealite out of context. Just to make the bible sound bad. Like I said, I would not mock Him if I were you.

So now you are saying the bible is not the irrefutable word of God? Shame on you. What about the Leviticus passage I posted earlier explaining the rules of buying and selling slaves?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on December 30, 2016, 06:22:34 PM
Psalm 14:1 Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil;

You should explain the context. Those babies are of those who are enemies of God. If I were you I would not mock Him.
I never thought I would be posting in support of Arealhumanbeing maybe there is more than one real human being around.

Yes taken alone, Psalm 137:9 is hard to swallow, but when the whole Psalm is read it shows the utter devastation felt by the Isrealites in Babylon and it is not saying that this event happened, though violent acts like the slaughter of the families of the vanquished was common. Anyone criticising this sould ask how they would be feeling with their whole nation taken into captivity.

I don't really know why, but I nearly get brought to tears reading the whole Psalm, writing this or
even listening to the "Chorus of the Hebrew Slaves" from Nabucco, by Verdi, say this one Nabucco - Hebrew Slaves Chorus. (http://)
It just gets to me.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 30, 2016, 06:26:10 PM
Instead of smashing babies with rocks, perhaps the Christian thing to do would be to turn the other cheek?

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 31, 2016, 07:14:01 AM
There were no Christians at the time that psalm was depicting.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 31, 2016, 07:19:43 AM
There were no Christians at the time that psalm was depicting.

Are you saying Christians do not currently claim EVERY WORD OF the Bible to be the IRREFUTABLE WORD OF GOD??

BLASPHEMER!!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 31, 2016, 07:57:28 AM
There were no Christians at the time that psalm was depicting.

Are you saying Christians do not currently claim EVERY WORD OF the Bible to be the IRREFUTABLE WORD OF GOD??

BLASPHEMER!!

I am saying that Psalm was talking about a time before Jesus CHRIST. Thefore CHRISTianity could not exist. Stop trolling.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 31, 2016, 10:40:03 AM
There were no Christians at the time that psalm was depicting.

Are you saying Christians do not currently claim EVERY WORD OF the Bible to be the IRREFUTABLE WORD OF GOD??

BLASPHEMER!!

I am saying that Psalm was talking about a time before Jesus CHRIST. Thefore CHRISTianity could not exist. Stop trolling.

You are saying The Bible is not the irrefutable word of God, to be used by Christians as a morality guide?

Cease your blasphemy!!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on December 31, 2016, 04:49:06 PM
I am saying you should sit down and read The Bible through. Especially if you are going to speak about blasphemy. Obviously you have not.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on December 31, 2016, 06:02:24 PM
I am saying you should sit down and read The Bible through. Especially if you are going to speak about blasphemy. Obviously you have not.

I have read it, that's how I know about all the contradictions.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 06:21:00 AM
Both the CIA and NASA began business with a staggering amount of Nazis as their workforce. The CIA had a project called BLUEBIRD involving mind control. NASA has a project called BLUEBEAM. Hmmmm. I wonder if there is a relationship there. Before you scoff at this, ask yourself what implementations a mind control program could possibly have. Do not turn a blind eye and say it is necessary for national defense, that's tomfoolery. To aid your thoughts here's a quote and but a mere taste as to how the CIA thinks.

Quote
The CIA chose the weaker and less intelligent as its subjects, which they thought to be homosexuals, racial minorities and military prisoners.

I think its time a certain department was disbanded and possibly jailed.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 02, 2017, 06:37:32 AM
The CIA had a project called BLUEBIRD involving mind control. NASA has a project called BLUEBEAM. Hmmmm. I wonder if there is a relationship there.

Yes, good job! They both use the word BLUE! It's good to see watching Sesame Street has finally paid off. Keep watching, you still need to learn your numbers.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 07:14:46 AM
AND they both had a lot of Nazis! AND were started in within a few years of each other. Both the Nazis and the CIA seem to have something against homosexuals and minorities... So many similarities! One Nazi... Two Nazi... Three Nazi.... Ah. Ah. Ah. GFY fakebillnye.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 02, 2017, 07:21:43 AM
AND were started in within a few years of each other.

This is why you need to keep watching The Count. 1947 and 1958 are not "within a few years of each other"

Maybe someday you will be able to count to 11
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 08:00:58 AM
Wow, almost within a decade. Define "few" for me will you fakebillnye?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 08:08:09 AM
Also do you condone the CIA singling out homosexuals, minorities and pirsoners for usage as mind control subjects? I don't. I think they should all be tried as criminals. The CIA should have their own Nuremburg.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 02, 2017, 08:22:56 AM
Wow, almost within a decade. Define "few" for me will you fakebillnye?

Haha maybe someday you will be able to use a dictionary as well.


few
fyo͞o

1. a small number of.

synonyms:   a small number, a handful, one or two, a couple, two or three
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 02, 2017, 08:25:13 AM
Also do you condone the CIA singling out homosexuals, minorities and pirsoners for usage as mind control subjects? I don't. I think they should all be tried as criminals. The CIA should have their own Nuremburg.

While you're learning to use a dictionary, could you define pirsoners for me?

Do you have any proof the CIA singled out homosexuals or minorities?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 10:07:54 AM
Quote
The CIA chose the weaker and less intelligent as its subjects, which they thought to be homosexuals, racial minorities and military prisoners.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_ARTICHOKE
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 02, 2017, 11:00:49 AM
If the CIA were controlled by Nazis at that time, wouldn't they be more interested in using gypsies, jews, and the disabled?

Why does their obsession with homosexuals cause you to immediately cry "NAZI!!!"?

Furthermore, I don't know why you seem so intently focused on Project ARTICHOKE. In my opinion MK ULTRA was more detrimental to the CIA's tarnished reputation.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
Furthermore, I don't know why you seem so intently focused on Project ARTICHOKE. In my opinion MK ULTRA was more detrimental to the CIA's tarnished reputation."

Artichoke and MKUltra are the same thing!!! ::)

Also artichokes are shaped like pinecones... So is the Pineal gland, hence the name. Its the seat of the soul... So if they can make that body part malfunction, they mute the soul in people...The CIA wants soulless people, because they won't fight back when mistreated.

Earth is flat! Open your eye!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/e4/4a/df/e44adfcfbe41c9ace9650b81d64f6906.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 02, 2017, 11:28:09 AM
Your posts consistently lack proper formatting, it's always good for a laugh.

MK ULTRA spawned from Project ARTICHOKE, but they are hardly the same thing.

The pineal gland is not shaped like an artichoke, it is laughable how stupid you are being right now.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 12:16:35 PM
Your posts consistently lack proper formatting, it's always good for a laugh.

MK ULTRA spawned from Project ARTICHOKE, but they are hardly the same thing.

The pineal gland is not shaped like an artichoke, it is laughable how stupid you are being right now.

And you are constistantly proven to be a filthy liar!!! Its laughable....  ;D  ;D  :o
Quote
The shape of the gland resembles a pine cone, hence its name. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 02, 2017, 01:29:32 PM
Because pinecones and artichokes are the same thing, right?

What does any of this have to do with the CIA or Project Blue Beam??
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 02, 2017, 01:38:37 PM
They look pretty similar to me. They both look like the pineal gland lol

What does a CIA project about mind control have to do with parts of the brain? What a silly question...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on January 03, 2017, 04:01:30 AM
They look pretty similar to me. They both look like the pineal gland lol

What does a CIA project about mind control have to do with parts of the brain? What a silly question...
Climb down off your bandwagon, soapbox or high horse of whatever you're climbing on today and stop being such an idiot!

(1) The shape of the earth was pretty much accepted as a sphere a few centuries BC.
(2) The heliocentric globe was gradually accepted from the time of Copernicus (unless you've rewritten history again).

All this rubbish is a bit rich coming from a 15-year-old kid - however did your mind get twisted at such a young age!

By the way, learn a bit of anatomy - things have moved on a little since mathematician René Descartes day:
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym

For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
 
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.
 
And while researchers are still learning about the full purpose of the pineal gland, they believe it most likely concerns melatonin—the only hormone that the gland is known to produce and release.

Pineal Gland Essentials
  • Of the endocrine organs, the function of the pineal gland was the last discovered.

  • Located deep in the center of the brain, the pineal gland was once known as the “third eye.”

  • The pineal gland produces melatonin, which helps maintain circadian rhythm and regulate reproductive hormones.

What about learning a few things before you make more of an utter fool of yourself!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 04, 2017, 05:20:19 PM
They look pretty similar to me. They both look like the pineal gland lol

What does a CIA project about mind control have to do with parts of the brain? What a silly question...
Climb down off your bandwagon, soapbox or high horse of whatever you're climbing on today and stop being such an idiot!

(1) The shape of the earth was pretty much accepted as a sphere a few centuries BC.
(2) The heliocentric globe was gradually accepted from the time of Copernicus (unless you've rewritten history again).

All this rubbish is a bit rich coming from a 15-year-old kid - however did your mind get twisted at such a young age!

By the way, learn a bit of anatomy - things have moved on a little since mathematician René Descartes day:
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym

For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
 
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.
 
And while researchers are still learning about the full purpose of the pineal gland, they believe it most likely concerns melatonin—the only hormone that the gland is known to produce and release.

Pineal Gland Essentials
  • Of the endocrine organs, the function of the pineal gland was the last discovered.

  • Located deep in the center of the brain, the pineal gland was once known as the “third eye.”

  • The pineal gland produces melatonin, which helps maintain circadian rhythm and regulate reproductive hormones.

What about learning a few things before you make more of an utter fool of yourself!
Reproductive hormones?  So it has something to do with sleeping and sex?  Maybe it is the seat of the soul
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on January 04, 2017, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on January 04, 2017, 06:58:17 PM
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.

Not so fast, Mr NXXX! Weren't you the one accused of deception by deliberately misquoting and using quotes out of context?

It looks like you are up to your old deceptive practices!

Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym
For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
 
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.

It was the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes who regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.”

Not Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD as you claim.
Either you are incredibly poor at reading comprehension, or are deliberately trying to deceive us - which is it?

You even try to cover up your deception by not giving a link. Looks like we still have to watch you like a hawk!

Yes, as you kindly warn us, we certainly need to Be Aware of the tactics some modern day deceivers get up to.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 04, 2017, 08:38:25 PM
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.
Oh look, a deceptively out of context quote! Quit lying, Arealhumanbeing.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on January 05, 2017, 12:47:35 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XmBFFte.jpg)
Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.

It looks like you are up to your old deceptive practices!

Quote from: Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD
An Overview of the Pineal Gland
Maintaining Circadian Rhythym
For being such a tiny structure, the pineal gland has a colorful and misunderstood history. It’s considered a somewhat mysterious organ, as its function was discovered last of the endocrine glands.
 
The pineal gland was once dubbed the “third eye,” which originated for many reasons, ranging from its location deep in the center of the brain to its connection to light. Also, the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes was fascinated with the pineal gland. He even regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.” However, his observations have been widely rejected.

It was the French philosopher and mathematician René Descartes who regarded it as the “principal seat of the soul, and the place in which all our thoughts are formed.”

Not Robert M. Sargis MD, PhD as you claim.
Either you are incredibly poor at reading comprehension, or are deliberately trying to deceive us - which is it?

You even try to cover up your deception by not giving a link. Looks like we still have to watch you like a hawk!

Yes, as you kindly warn us, we certainly need to Be Aware of the tactics some modern day deceivers get up to.


They do say once a deceiver, always a deceiver.  I don't believe one word you write or one message yo give us!
Mr NXXX please answer this truthfully! Have you stopped deceiving us YET? Yes, or no!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: New Earth on January 06, 2017, 01:17:48 PM
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 07, 2017, 07:32:43 AM
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.
I don't really think that's true.  I don't believe America almost became allied with the Nazis at all.  That would mean declaring war against Great Britain and I don't really see that happening in those circumstances.  I do believe there was a push for us to stay neutral though.
After the war I believe communism in the US picked up quite a bit, but not so much Nazis.  That came later.  Sorry but I think your history is wrong.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on January 07, 2017, 11:35:10 AM
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.

Germany and Russia were already allied at that time, dip shit. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 07, 2017, 11:39:22 AM
The US already had alliances with England AND France established before WW2 ever began. Before we entered the war, we supplied England and France with munitions, arms, and food.

Before Pearl Harbor, the Nazis under Hitler attempted to ally with Mexico in order to invade us.

Sure, there were (and are) Nazi sympathizers in the USA, but an alliance with Nazi Germany was never on the table.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 09, 2017, 06:27:59 AM
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.

Germany and Russia were already allied at that time, dip shit.
germany and Russia were never allied.  They had a non aggression agreement.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 10, 2017, 06:53:20 AM
All these Nazis come to America and just coincidentally the CIA starts working on mind control... Hmmmm what were those Nazis doing in Germany under their own rule again?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on January 10, 2017, 07:57:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dEE5oeal.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/gE1ToObl.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 10, 2017, 09:37:33 AM
"Anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell." - Matthew 5:22
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 10, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
Matthew 5:22 "But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 10, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
"But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell."

Matthew 5:22

Once again, N30's alt has been caught attempting to deceive us all with misquoted bullshit.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 12, 2017, 05:18:55 AM
Silly fakebillnye, I did not misquote anything you liar. And because you are a liar, the bible says its ok to call you a fool, because you are one. Didnt you think i was scepti? Or was it denspressure. Lol keep guessing fool!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 12, 2017, 07:14:56 AM
You certainly did misquote the Bible. You added the phrase in bold, "without a cause"

I posted the correct quotation from Matthew 5:22 which contains no such phrase. I mean seriously, "without a cause" doesn't even sound like biblical vernacular. It should have been "without cause" if you really wanted to deceive us.

You call me and dozens of others on this forum fools. Hellfire awaits us both, sinner.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on January 12, 2017, 07:25:14 AM
This is the KJV of that verse:

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

It does not say it is OK to go around calling people fools.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on January 12, 2017, 07:42:18 AM
The King James Version is objectively outdated and contains many misinterpretations and even more poorly translated quotes.

The NIV is the most widely accepted version, and it is what I posted.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on January 12, 2017, 08:07:11 AM
The King James Version is objectively outdated and contains many misinterpretations and even more poorly translated quotes.

The NIV is the most widely accepted version, and it is what I posted.
Incorrect.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on January 12, 2017, 11:04:25 AM
The King James Version is objectively outdated and contains many misinterpretations and even more poorly translated quotes.

The NIV is the most widely accepted version, and it is what I posted.

Fine. Nevertheless, ARHB didn't misquote the bible as you accused him of doing.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on January 12, 2017, 09:52:44 PM
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.

Germany and Russia were already allied at that time, dip shit.
germany and Russia were never allied.  They had a non aggression agreement.

They had an agreement to not attack each other and split Poland and other countries.  Sounds like they were pretty friendly towards each other, if not ALLIED, would you not say? 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 13, 2017, 09:25:56 PM
America almost became allied with Nazis in the 40's. There was a lot of debate in American politics if America should side with Russia or Germany. Roosevelt decided to side with Russia. There were many American businessmen that had business with Nazi Germany and many Americans has very similar views when it comes to society as the Nazis did. Look at the race relations in 1940's America, Jews were not very much liked, and the Blacks pretty much had no rights at all. So yes America and Germany had a lot in common. When the war was over The Nazi ideology in America really picked up. Many Nazis scientists started to work for American military and NASA. The idea of corporations is straight from Nazis, our judicial system closely resembling the one in Nazi Germany and much more. So yes no surprise that CIA and Nazis have a lot in common.

Germany and Russia were already allied at that time, dip shit.
germany and Russia were never allied.  They had a non aggression agreement.

They had an agreement to not attack each other and split Poland and other countries.  Sounds like they were pretty friendly towards each other, if not ALLIED, would you not say?
No I wouldn't.  There was no agreement to defend each other which is the root of an alliance.  Their agreement was simply that they would not attack each other.  The US was never going to ally itself with Germany.  That was simply not on the table.  At best Germany hoped they would stay out of the war.  So, no, there was never a serious discussion as to which side of the war the US would enter, only whether it would enter at all.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 15, 2017, 10:22:18 AM
I would just like to point out that after hitler commited suicide, US and German forces ended up teaming up to fight off the S.S. who remained aggressive until the end. And guess what, those Nazi scientists who came to america after, many of them were S.S.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 15, 2017, 04:33:33 PM
I would just like to point out that after hitler commited suicide, US and German forces ended up teaming up to fight off the S.S. who remained aggressive until the end. And guess what, those Nazi scientists who came to america after, many of them were S.S.
So far track record on history is pretty bad so I would have to confirm all of that.  But, regardless, it doesn't change the fact that all that stuff you said about US potentially allying with Germany is absolutely wrong.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 15, 2017, 04:39:47 PM
I would just like to point out that after hitler commited suicide, US and German forces ended up teaming up to fight off the S.S. who remained aggressive until the end. And guess what, those Nazi scientists who came to america after, many of them were S.S.
So far track record on history is pretty bad so I would have to confirm all of that.  But, regardless, it doesn't change the fact that all that stuff you said about US potentially allying with Germany is absolutely wrong.

You are such a fucking troll. I never said anything about the US siding with Germany. It just goes to show how little you actually care, and how desperate you are to muddle the name of anyone who believes in flat earth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 15, 2017, 05:23:51 PM
I would just like to point out that after hitler commited suicide, US and German forces ended up teaming up to fight off the S.S. who remained aggressive until the end. And guess what, those Nazi scientists who came to america after, many of them were S.S.
So far track record on history is pretty bad so I would have to confirm all of that.  But, regardless, it doesn't change the fact that all that stuff you said about US potentially allying with Germany is absolutely wrong.

You are such a fucking troll. I never said anything about the US siding with Germany. It just goes to show how little you actually care, and how desperate you are to muddle the name of anyone who believes in flat earth.
My mistake.  I confused you with a different user.  You did not claim the US might have sided with Germany.  My sincere apologies.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 17, 2017, 07:28:40 AM
Apology not accepted. Maybe if you admitted your mistake in thinking that earth is a sphere, I would.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 17, 2017, 08:15:12 PM
Apology not accepted. Maybe if you admitted your mistake in thinking that earth is a sphere, I would.
My mistake was assigning a statement to you that you did not make.  I admitted that mistake, you can act like an adult and accept the apology or you act like a child and huff and puff over it.  Makes no difference to me.
As for global earth, I have yet to see any evidence at all that can only be explained by a flat earth. I see tons of evidence that can only be explained by a round earth.
I have seen no actual evidence of giants.  I have seen no evidence that dinosaurs never existed, though I have seen lots of evidence that they did.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on January 17, 2017, 11:18:52 PM
Apology not accepted. Maybe if you admitted your mistake in thinking that earth is a sphere, I would.
Why would anyone even think that it was a mistake when you seem to offer no evidence for it and no flat earth model explains numerous things that I see around me?

All you seem to do is to demand everybody believe the words of a hypocrite when he rants:
"Earth is flat and im sick of your bullshit posts whining about everything irrelevant."
The shape of the earth is not a matter of belief.
The earth is a big physical object of a very definite shape and that shape is not controlled by anything that you, the Jewish Sages or anyone else believe.

You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 18, 2017, 09:16:40 AM
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.

Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Lonegranger on January 18, 2017, 01:28:43 PM
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.

Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.

Once a TLF always a TLF.....people never change, by the way looser the earth is a sphere.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on January 18, 2017, 01:38:32 PM
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.
Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.
I can't help your lack of understanding.

For a "15 year old kid" you don't do too badly, but wait till you grow up and learn about the real earth and what happens outside your backyard.

You might see things as they really are then.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 20, 2017, 06:59:54 AM
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.

Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.

Once a TLF always a TLF.....people never change, by the way looser the earth is a sphere.

I do loosen things occasionally... Things like the global elites grip on humanity.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 22, 2017, 03:49:25 AM
But while aliens may be plausible, others suggest that the floating figure above Crawley has been connected to a secret NASA project named Project Blue Beam.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/aliens-secret-military-tech-stunned-8132856.amp?client=ms-android-verizon
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on January 22, 2017, 04:17:32 AM
You, N30 and Totallackey in particular seem to think that because you simply that the earth is flat, it must be.

Im sorry I cant understand you, maybe you calm down and accept that the earth is flat.
I'm quite calm. But I still have seen no evidence from you other than a bald claim "that the earth is flat".
If a 15 year old kid claimed he say a fire-breathing-dragon on his way home from school, I wouldn't believe him either without strong evidence.
Likewise, If a 15 year old kid came out with the bald claim "that the earth is flat", I wouldn't believe him without strong evidence.

As far as I am concerned either are about as likely, so some evidence for you claim.

From what I can see well-known measurements of the earth prove that it cannot be flat. This pretty well says it all:
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/The%20Flat%20Earth%20Myth%20Disproved_zpsdxrxv6xc.png)
The Flat Earth Myth Disproved (http://)
It's a video too.

A couple of longer ones if you want:
Flat Earth Myth Disproved in 3 mins (http://) and
Flat Earth Myth Disproved (http://)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 22, 2017, 09:15:01 AM
Likewise, If a 15 year old kid came out with the bald claim "that the earth is flat", I wouldn't believe him without strong evidence.

Thats the thing though, its not just me. I mean youre posting on a website made by flat earthers.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on January 22, 2017, 08:11:54 PM
Likewise, If a 15 year old kid came out with the bald claim "that the earth is flat", I wouldn't believe him without strong evidence.

Thats the thing though, its not just me. I mean youre posting on a website made by flat earthers.
Sure, but I would expect flat earthers to have some evidence that the earth is flat.

So many flat earthers, including John Davis and Gotham seem under the impression that the flat earth will soon be accepted all over the  ;) Globe  ;) in the near future.
Without solid evidence it's not going to happen.

When there is an accepted "model"that, I and most others, claim explains essentially all our observations,
that model is not going to be discarded without very good reason - that is very sound evidence.
You, yourself, can believe what you like but don't expect others to follow suit without that evidence.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 23, 2017, 08:42:22 AM

So many flat earthers, including John Davis and Gotham seem under the impression that the flat earth will soon be accepted all over the  ;) Globe  ;) in the near future.
Without solid evidence it's not going to happen.

You can say its not going to happen over and over and you can say there isnt any evidence again and again but it doesnt make it any more true! I have seen plenty of evidence. Its all over the place, everywhere you look. Ask the next passerby you meet on the road, you may be surprised at what shape they think the earth is!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 23, 2017, 08:46:16 AM

So many flat earthers, including John Davis and Gotham seem under the impression that the flat earth will soon be accepted all over the  ;) Globe  ;) in the near future.
Without solid evidence it's not going to happen.

You can say its not going to happen over and over and you can say there isnt any evidence again and again but it doesnt make it any more true! I have seen plenty of evidence. Its all over the place, everywhere you look. Ask the next passerby you meet on the road, you may be surprised at what shape they think the earth is!
Could you maybe share some of that evidence?  Because everything I have seen is easily debunked.  I have never seen a legitimate explaination of sunrises or sunsets.  I have never seen a legitimate explaination of travel times in the Southern Hemisphere.  Just to name a few.
And I have never seen a single map that works in the real world.  Don't you find that odd?  A flat earth map should be the easiest thing in the world to produce and yet there is not one that matches observable facts.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 23, 2017, 08:49:04 AM
A flat earth map should be the easiest thing in the world to produce and yet there is not one that matches observable facts.

THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE. You are posting on a site FILLED WITH EVIDENCE. Do you even know how maps are made??? Would you consider that the easiest thing in the world???
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 23, 2017, 08:51:22 AM
A flat earth map should be the easiest thing in the world to produce and yet there is not one that matches observable facts.

THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE. You are posting on a site FILLED WITH EVIDENCE. Do you even know how maps are made??? Would you consider that the easiest thing in the world???
So show me an accurate flat earth map.  Explain sunrise.  I have created threads asking these questions and gotten no valid answers.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 23, 2017, 08:53:21 AM
YOU created threads?? OH MY APOLOGIES. I did not realize you made every single important thread available!!! Im sure you were just the sweetest little thing to all the flat earthers who responded as well.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 23, 2017, 08:55:22 AM
YOU created threads?? OH MY APOLOGIES. I did not realize you made every single important thread available!!! Im sure you were just the sweetest little thing to all the flat earthers who responded as well.
Generally speaking I try to be polite, act like an adult and so on.  So about that map.  Do you have one that fits real world observations?  Can you explain sunrises?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 23, 2017, 08:57:01 AM
ARE YOU A FUCKING ROBOT? Do you just ask the same things over and over again? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 23, 2017, 09:00:37 AM
ARE YOU A FUCKING ROBOT? Do you just ask the same things over and over again? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence?
You were the one who said the evidence was everywhere.  I'm just asking to see a couple of examples of that.  You may have noticed a theme here.  I am only skiing you to support the claims YOU are making.  That seems like a pretty reasonable position to me on a discussion board.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 23, 2017, 09:03:57 AM
"Can i see examples of evidence? (shown evidence) NO! FALSE! STUPID!  Can i see examples of evidence? (Shown different evidence) WHAT? IMPOSSIBLE! STUPID!" - Badxtoss

See a pattern developing?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 23, 2017, 09:11:53 AM
"Can i see examples of evidence? (shown evidence) NO! FALSE! STUPID!  Can i see examples of evidence? (Shown different evidence) WHAT? IMPOSSIBLE! STUPID!" - Badxtoss

See a pattern developing?
I do.  You show what you think is evidence, I show how it is incorrect or not actually supported, you try again.  I don't believe I have ever simply said it was stupid or just claimed impossible.  I have tried to show why that particular piece was inaccurate, or simply false.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on January 23, 2017, 01:53:50 PM
Wow. This guy just continues to dig his hole deeper and deeper, without ever realizing it. Kinda sad, but amusing at the same time.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 23, 2017, 02:06:22 PM
Wow. This guy just continues to dig his hole deeper and deeper, without ever realizing it. Kinda sad, but amusing at the same time.
It is isn't it?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Lonegranger on January 23, 2017, 02:29:07 PM
A flat earth map should be the easiest thing in the world to produce and yet there is not one that matches observable facts.

THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE. You are posting on a site FILLED WITH EVIDENCE. Do you even know how maps are made??? Would you consider that the easiest thing in the world???

I know how flat earth maps are made...they are just made up, as with all flat earth 'info'
In fact all flat earth 'evidence' should come with a sticker saying....100% evidence free.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Lonegranger on January 23, 2017, 02:31:11 PM
ARE YOU A FUCKING ROBOT? Do you just ask the same things over and over again? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence? Wheres your evidence?

Using the f word...oh you bad man!....any more of that and you'll be back in your crate...and this time you'll have to share with John Davis and his Nazi Penguin.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 24, 2017, 07:58:28 AM
Can I be on record as saying I'll gladly donate 20 bucks, greenbacks, or whatever to have John Davies shipped off in a create. 'no airholes required' ......If we all contribute we could put together quite a consignment;  Arealhumanbeing, Sceptimatic, papa legwho, Jora......all in all it would be $100 well spent.

Oh, are you threatening me with death again? Im afraid if that persists, you will end up in court with a judges gavel up your ass for repeated threats of violence. Should i post your other nasty violent comments?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on January 24, 2017, 09:07:59 AM
Can I be on record as saying I'll gladly donate 20 bucks, greenbacks, or whatever to have John Davies shipped off in a create. 'no airholes required' ......If we all contribute we could put together quite a consignment;  Arealhumanbeing, Sceptimatic, papa legwho, Jora......all in all it would be $100 well spent.

Oh, are you threatening me with death again? Im afraid if that persists, you will end up in court with a judges gavel up your ass for repeated threats of violence. Should i post your other nasty violent comments?
Any luck on that flat earth map that fits real world observations?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 25, 2017, 09:08:21 AM
Nice deflection. Are you Lonegrangers alternate account? Lol Anyways, this is the wrong thread, there are plently for the logistics of the flat earth map, go find it. This thread is about the possible enslavment of humanity by a small entity of global elitists and their misinformation and deception campaign. Heres a question... What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Pineal on January 25, 2017, 10:56:40 AM
What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?

Interrogation. If they could force an enemy spy to divulge classified information, that could be considered beneficial. Especially during the Cold War.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on January 25, 2017, 11:10:23 AM
Pump them full of MDMA, they'll start talkin..
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Pineal on January 25, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
Pump them full of MDMA, they'll start talkin..

"I LOOOVE YOU MAN, CAN YOU SCRATCH MY HEAD AND GET ME SOME WATER??"
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 26, 2017, 10:18:15 AM
What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?

Interrogation. If they could force an enemy spy to divulge classified information, that could be considered beneficial. Especially during the Cold War.

Wow. Why not just start chopping off fingers and toes? Which one is more cruel? Warping a mind irreparably or a few physical setbacks?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Pineal on January 26, 2017, 10:52:48 AM
What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?

Interrogation. If they could force an enemy spy to divulge classified information, that could be considered beneficial. Especially during the Cold War.

Wow. Why not just start chopping off fingers and toes? Which one is more cruel? Warping a mind irreparably or a few physical setbacks?
Warping the mind could be considered worse. Some of the experiments in MK ULTRA describe victims locked in solitary confinement, in pitch dark, secretly dosed with copious amounts of LSD. Souns insanity inducing to me, but I don't know what kind of answers one could expect to obtain from somebody in such a state.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 28, 2017, 06:34:58 AM
Mk Ultra was only one of many many mind control projects conducted by the CIA. I think they had another agenda when researching mind control. Who would trust information gathered from someone with drugs for blood? Hmmm... They certainly wouldnt use that research to control the populace...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 29, 2017, 04:59:43 PM
Or would they...? What HAS the CIA been up to? Protecting our national safety? Yeah... About that....
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bullwinkle on January 29, 2017, 11:27:30 PM
Or would they...? What HAS the CIA been up to? Protecting our national safety? Yeah... About that....


Please continue, this is awesome.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 30, 2017, 08:37:12 AM
Yeah alright. Here a link saying the CIA has been trying to influence political activity in cuba throught the music culture. How does that protect our national safety? How is that collecting intelligence? https://monolithik.wordpress.com/category/warfare-asymmetricalcloak-daggercovert-action/current-cia-operations/
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on January 30, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
I heard they were shadowing ARHB in hopes of gathering some intelligence but they finally had to give up. There simply was none. ;D
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on January 31, 2017, 08:36:10 AM
Heres another link speaking of recent CIA torture...
https://www.hrw.org/topic/terrorism/counterterrorism/cia-activities

Wait, what happened to mind control? Why spend all that money and time on figuring out how to drug people to get them to do what you want if youre just going to torture them? I think the CIA needs an investigation. Maybe a well planned audit of all their buildings of operations is in order... Cuz im sick of the lies and deception they are spreading.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 01, 2017, 08:07:38 AM
"I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them into the wind." - JFK

Shortly after, he was killed

Abolish the CIA.

Seriously. Unless you want to lose your life, liberty and the pursuit of hapiness. The evil powers of this world have taken control of your "protective" services.

Resist

Question authority

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/inside-job-cia-suspect-some-jfks-killing-f2D11627219

https://www.google.com/amp/listverse.com/2013/05/25/10-dirty-secret-cia-operations/amp/?client=ms-android-verizon
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 01, 2017, 06:17:17 PM
Still think 9/11 was arabs?

It was the CIA.

Want proof?

They had the idea in 1962.

Research Operation Northwoods

Quote
Operation Northwoods was a series of false flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962, but were rejected by the Kennedy administration. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit perceived acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere.

http://heavy.com/news/2013/06/conspiracy-covert-operations-video-cia/
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 02, 2017, 09:13:42 AM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on February 02, 2017, 11:06:58 AM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on February 03, 2017, 09:44:10 AM
I find it amusing he derails his own thread, then whines about why nobody wants to argue about it.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 03, 2017, 03:09:47 PM
My point stands. You have nothing sensical to say to proof that the CIA was planning terror attacks on its own country. Why wouldnt they lie about space if they are willing to KILL its own citizens.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 03, 2017, 06:34:46 PM
My point stands. You have nothing sensical to say to proof that the CIA was planning terror attacks on its own country. Why wouldnt they lie about space if they are willing to KILL its own citizens.
And what does the CIA have to do with the space program, other than getting their own "spy satellites" launched?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Pineal on February 03, 2017, 06:42:36 PM

Resist

Question authority

Funny words from somebody who laps up every word of what his drug czar says
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Howie feldersnatch on February 06, 2017, 11:48:11 AM
Nice deflection. Are you Lonegrangers alternate account? Lol Anyways, this is the wrong thread, there are plently for the logistics of the flat earth map, go find it. This thread is about the possible enslavment of humanity by a small entity of global elitists and their misinformation and deception campaign. Heres a question... What use would the CIA have for researching mind control?

But it wouldn't be a "small entity" it would take 100s of thousands of people all in on the illusion. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 06, 2017, 02:57:27 PM
How do you know? Im sure you would claim that everyone working at mission control during the moon missions must be lying too. But in reality they are just as fooled as you. What did they experience other than watching some television screens. They pressed some buttons when they were told to press them. No, they were not involved, they were the saps that set the false reality into the populaces minds like concrete.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Howie feldersnatch on February 06, 2017, 06:59:31 PM
How do you know? Im sure you would claim that everyone working at mission control during the moon missions must be lying too. But in reality they are just as fooled as you. What did they experience other than watching some television screens. They pressed some buttons when they were told to press them. No, they were not involved, they were the saps that set the false reality into the populaces minds like concrete.
Lol mission control was but a small part of the enormous project. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 06, 2017, 09:37:10 PM
How do you know? Im sure you would claim that everyone working at mission control during the moon missions must be lying too. But in reality they are just as fooled as you. What did they experience other than watching some television screens. They pressed some buttons when they were told to press them. No, they were not involved, they were the saps that set the false reality into the populaces minds like concrete.
And how would a 15 year old scientist know this?
Show me your evidence!

You just make up this rubbish because you aren't smart enough to understand how it could be done.
And to cap it off, you have such an overinflated opinion of your own abilities that you think that if you can't understand something, nobody can.

I'll let you in on a little secret, kiddo, when I was around you age and even somewhat later, into my 20's, I thought much the same, but then I grew up,
and finally realised that there were lotsof people out there who were much smarter than I.

So, just wait a decade or so till you have had a bit of experience and see if you think the same.

And by that time, you might finally realise that the earth really is a Globe.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Rayzor on February 06, 2017, 10:40:30 PM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.

Either that or you "jumped the shark" with evermore looney conspiracy theories.   

What's next  Nazi Reptillian shapeshifters and their secret  moon base?



Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on February 07, 2017, 12:25:23 AM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.

Either that or you "jumped the shark" with evermore looney conspiracy theories.   

What's next  Nazi Reptillian shapeshifters and their secret  moon base?
No but for real dude, that one is totally true.  I've seen it.  Well not actually, but I have incontrovertible evidence of it.  And by that I mean I'm pretty sure that's the case so since you can't prove otherwise it must be true.  Why are you sheeple attacking me over this?  It's simple logic!  Free your minds!  The truth is out there you just have to, hey let's go ride our bikes.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Rayzor on February 07, 2017, 02:53:56 AM
I think I've cracked it... 

(https://s28.postimg.org/nqj77kazx/conspiracy.jpg)

It was easy once I knew how...  :)

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on February 07, 2017, 07:17:39 PM
I think I've cracked it... 

(https://s28.postimg.org/nqj77kazx/conspiracy.jpg)

It was easy once I knew how...  :)
I knew it!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on February 10, 2017, 03:21:16 AM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on February 10, 2017, 09:19:24 AM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Wow, what a lame response.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 11, 2017, 07:47:04 AM
Yeah sure... Many people already believe the US government is lying about the events on 9/11, so it would behoove the flat earth cause to reiterate the decidely deceptive day when the government so blatently lied about the deaths of so many... If they are willing to lie about killing people, you really think lying about space travel and its findings is beyond their capacity?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on February 11, 2017, 10:38:02 AM
Yeah sure... Many people already believe the US government is lying about the events on 9/11, so it would behoove the flat earth cause to reiterate the decidely deceptive day when the government so blatently lied about the deaths of so many... If they are willing to lie about killing people, you really think lying about space travel and its findings is beyond their capacity?
Yeah, like I said, one has nothing to do with the other.  You could argue they lied about 911 but the fact that the earth is round has been proven repeatedly by countless people throughout history. 
It would literally be impossible for the government to cover up the model of earth you describe.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 11, 2017, 03:50:22 PM
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Rayzor on February 11, 2017, 04:51:29 PM
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.

Maybe not to you personally,  but the rest of humanity down through the last few thousand years know the earth is a globe. 

Global warming has been proven beyond doubt,  the only argument remaining is whether it's man made or not.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 11, 2017, 05:28:48 PM
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on February 11, 2017, 05:32:22 PM
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.

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(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"an ad hominem response"

2.
relating to or associated with a particular person.
"the office was created ad hominem for Fenton"
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 11, 2017, 05:41:24 PM
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.
A flat Earth has been proven in the same way as "a self-luminous" moon has been proven; It hasnt.
And you have given no credible evidence for it! If I am mistaken please show real evidence - and "not seeing curvature" does not count as evidence!

But, I would say that "global warming" has been proven. Possibly "anthropogenic global warming" has not really been proven.

And, I know "One swallow does not a summer make. . . . . . . ! Aristotle,
and one heat wave does not prove "global warming", but if you'd been here for the past week you'd be easily convinced.
This map is a cartoonist take on last Friday's weather outlook:
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Clip%20Art/20170210%20-%20Todays%20Weather%20Forecast_zps0e6g3k2o.jpg)
I'm sorry to say it was an understatement, where he had "Lightly Seared" to "Char-grilled" was all closer to "Char-grilled"  to "Carbonised"!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 11, 2017, 06:00:38 PM
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.
The biggest hoax around here is Arealhumanbeing claiming to be all of human, 15-years-old and a scientist.

But the earth sure looks like a globe!
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Earth%20from%20Space/Himawari%20Real-Time%20Image%200140%20UTC%2012%20February%202017%20Full%20Disk%20Full%20Color%20reproduction%20Image._zpskblw1xql.png)
Himawari Real-Time Image 01:40 UTC 12 February 2017, Full Disk, Full Color reproduction Image.
That photo was taken at 01:40 UTC 12 February 2017 or 11:40 AM local time. I downloaded it at 11:47 AM local time and posted it about 12:00 noon.

Still anything Mr Arealhumanbeing can't understand (and that's most things!) he declares fake!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Rayzor on February 11, 2017, 07:05:20 PM
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.

Time for you to put up or shut up,   take your time do the research and explain to me how lunar eclipses occur on a flat earth.     

I think you are a fake flat earther who actually knows next to nothing about flat earth theory.   I'm calling your bluff.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: TheRealBillNye on February 11, 2017, 11:41:04 PM
A spherical Earth has been proven in the same way "global" warming has been proven; It hasnt.

I'll bet you $100 that 2017 will be one of the top 10 warmest years on record.

I'll bet you $500 that the 2010-2019 decade will be the hottest decade on record.

If you refuse these bets, then you secretly believe climate change to be real. Why would you turn down such easy money?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Rayzor on February 13, 2017, 07:49:01 PM
No, global warming is nonsense. Just like the globe. Globe globe globe, gotta stick it in everyones head. Are you like Al Gore, Rayzor? Do you preach that global warming is caused by humanity, but then hop in a gas guzzling limo and fly in oh so economical private jets? Yes, global warming is a hoax, just like the ball earth.

Time for you to put up or shut up,   take your time do the research and explain to me how lunar eclipses occur on a flat earth.     

I think you are a fake flat earther who actually knows next to nothing about flat earth theory.   I'm calling your bluff.

Crickets ....
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 13, 2017, 07:57:27 PM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Wow, what a lame response.

Wow, what a lame response.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on February 13, 2017, 08:56:09 PM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Wow, what a lame response.

Wow, what a lame response.

What a lame response to the lame response.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 13, 2017, 09:06:35 PM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Wow, what a lame response.

Wow, what a lame response.

What a lame response to the lame response.
The difference, I believe, is that hoppy quite voluntarily accuses people of being "paid not to" "see any connection"
while jroa is paid to come up with posts like "Wow, what a lame response" simply to derail threads.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 13, 2017, 09:07:54 PM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Wow, what a lame response.

Wow, what a lame response.

What a lame response to the lame response.
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]Wow, what a lame respose. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 13, 2017, 09:09:31 PM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Wow, what a lame response.

Wow, what a lame response.

What a lame response to the lame response.
The difference, I believe, is that hoppy quite voluntarily accuses people of being "paid not to" "see any connection"
while jroa is paid to come up with posts like "Wow, what a lame response" simply to derail threads.

You really are a dummy.  I did not come up with that; I repeated it.  Are you taking your meds, or do we need to call the authourities to check on you? 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on February 13, 2017, 09:30:14 PM
Lame.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 20, 2017, 08:13:31 AM
9/11 was a planned event to implement more power for the wicked leaders of the world. All of our privacy is now gone. Who can argue that? I mean, if the government was not watching everyones movements, texts, phone calls, web searches, and everything in between, how would they catch terrorists!? They have to right? They have a right to watch and scrutinize every little thing they do, because YOU could be a terrorist!!! Thats right! YOU there, sitting at your computer reading this. Thats why all this extra security and surveillance is around. Well guess what. What if i told you they planned 9/11. How would that make you feel? What if I told you they plan on something much worse... Project blue beam.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on February 20, 2017, 09:11:57 AM
Ooooohhhh nothing to say to that. Its enlightening, whenever the army of globularists here ceases to respond, you know youve found a weakness in their silly scheme.
I'm not sure what 911 has to do with the earth being a globe.  Regardless of who did it
Of course you don't see any connection, you're paid not to.
Wow, what a lame response.

Wow, what a lame response.

What a lame response to the lame response.
The difference, I believe, is that hoppy quite voluntarily accuses people of being "paid not to" "see any connection"
while jroa is paid to come up with posts like "Wow, what a lame response" simply to derail threads.

You really are a dummy.  I did not come up with that; I repeated it.  Are you taking your meds, or do we need to call the authourities to check on you?
What a lame response.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 21, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Yeah, there is a connection between the false flag attack of 9/11 and flat earth. Both truths are being supressed by the same entity. And theyre gonna pay. Big time.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 21, 2017, 07:03:52 PM
Yeah, there is a connection between the false flag attack of 9/11 and flat earth. Both truths are being supressed by the same entity. And theyre gonna pay. Big time.
::) ::) Seems something a bit odd there.  ::) ::)
The earth has been known to be a globe for around 2500 years. This is from another post, but here goes:
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Then just when did this Globe Earth movement start?

If the early Islamic astronomers did not believe that the earth was a Globe:
Why would Al Biruni in around 1,000 AD make measurements of the circumference of the earth using Eratosthenes' method and the radius using the "dip angle to the horizon". Al Biruni did this careful measurement to assist the Muslims of the time in their Qiblah.

If the early monks did not believe the earth a Globe why would we find this:

Quote
One of the best-known proponents of a globe-shaped earth was the early English monk, theologian and historian, the Venerable Bede (673–735), who popularized the common BC/AD dating system. Less well known was that he was also a leading astronomer of his day.

In his book On the Reckoning of Time (De temporum ratione), among other things he calculated the creation of the world to be in 3952 BC, showed how to calculate the date of Easter, and explicitly taught that the earth was round. From this, he showed why the length of days and nights changed with the seasons, and how tides were dragged by the moon. Bede was the first with this insight, while Galileo explained the tides wrongly centuries later.

Here is what Bede said about the shape of the earth—round “like a ball” not “like a shield”:

    “We call the earth a globe, not as if the shape of a sphere were expressed in the diversity of plains and mountains, but because, if all things are included in the outline, the earth’s circumference will represent the figure of a perfect globe. … For truly it is an orb placed in the centre of the universe; in its width it is like a circle, and not circular like a shield but rather like a ball, and it extends from its centre with perfect roundness on all sides.”

Looks like this Globe idea started before the time of the Venerable Bede (673–735) and note that he was very specific about the shape "represent the figure of a perfect globe".

So, what about the ancient Greeks:
If the ancient Greeks did not believe the earth was a Globe and the sun and moon far away why would
Eratosthenes be measuring the circumference of the earth around 250 BC?
and Hipparchus be estimating the distance to the moon using a partial eclipse in around 200 BC?.

I will agree that if we go back to earlier Greeks and to the Babylonians we do find that the earth was thought to be flat.

But, there is a massive difference between the current flat earth and the Babylonian version.
The Babylonians had the stars in a great celestial sphere that rotated around their flat earth.The sun and moon also rose and set behind the horizon. Belief varied, with ideas like coming from and entering "the underworld". The Babylonian astronomy worked well, the current flat earth astronomy doesn't work at all.

So I fail to see how there could be any connection between something that seems to have started 2500 years ago and what seems a quite modern phenomenon.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 22, 2017, 01:21:52 PM
The Freemasons have been around since the time of King Solomon.

Care to explain why their logo is on US money?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on February 22, 2017, 01:46:32 PM
Yeah, there is a connection between the false flag attack of 9/11 and flat earth. Both truths are being supressed by the same entity. And theyre gonna pay. Big time.

You do realize change requires more than saying nonsense or claiming people "will pay"...This is useless. Are you currently doing anything about it? Do you have a faction? A movement? Anything that is doing anything at all?

If you do please let me know, if it is doing anything useful I may join it, might even help finance it if it's doing something worthwhile.


If not, please stop with all this nonsense you go on about. It accomplishes nothing, makes you and the alternative movement look stupid.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 22, 2017, 02:42:11 PM
Yeah, you would like me to stop wouldnt you. I bet youde like my address and where ill be protesting next as well. Not gonna happen.

The time for change is now. Go outside, take a good look at all the zombies staring at their phones and tell me humanity is supposed to be like that.

Who controls your life? You? Or the government?

Who decides how much your money is worth?

Who tells you how much time you need to spend at work to be able to pay your taxes, and rent, and bills.

Who is slowly whittling away at human rights? Who is adding the word "reasonable" in every other law and ordinance instead of definitive text?

Who voted the freemason symbol on American money?

I for one am sick of not being in control of my own life, and when the Resistance begins marching with their rifles slung, and their banners waving, with the cops on their way to "cease and desist" for "disturbing the peace", youll know whats really going on.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bom Tishop on February 22, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
Yeah, you would like me to stop wouldnt you. I bet youde like my address and where ill be protesting next as well. Not gonna happen.

The time for change is now. Go outside, take a good look at all the zombies staring at their phones and tell me humanity is supposed to be like that.

Who controls your life? You? Or the government?

Who decides how much your money is worth?

Who tells you how much time you need to spend at work to be able to pay your taxes, and rent, and bills.

Who is slowly whittling away at human rights? Who is adding the word "reasonable" in every other law and ordinance instead of definitive text?

Who voted the freemason symbol on American money?

I for one am sick of not being in control of my own life, and when the Resistance begins marching with their rifles slung, and their banners waving, with the cops on their way to "cease and desist" for "disturbing the peace", youll know whats really going on.


You are right...Sounds like I really want to stop you... ::) ::)

If you do please let me know, if it is doing anything useful I may join it, might even help finance it if it's doing something worthwhile.

Yep ::)

So...Since that was your answer to my post, this tells me you are a blow hard then??

Nice to know.....
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 22, 2017, 04:00:44 PM
You can label me all you want, but when you see legions of armed citizens taking back our rights as humans, and tearing down the oppression of the government, youll know exactly what I am.

Go on, call me some more names!

It only gives me an idea of what you fear.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on February 22, 2017, 04:03:01 PM
You can label me all you want

I hereby label you, Lil Pent-up Firecrakker.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: PawnedScum on February 22, 2017, 04:12:44 PM
You can label me all you want, but when you see legions of armed citizens taking back our rights as humans, and tearing down the oppression of the government, youll know exactly what I am.

Go on, call me some more names!

It only gives me an idea of what you fear.
Self proclaimed leader of the second American revolution?  No one would even let you cut their sandwich.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 22, 2017, 05:02:03 PM
Lol Thats the best you got? Ive got a bag of rust and aluminum shavings all ready to pack up into some anti oppression presents for some certain people.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 22, 2017, 05:31:15 PM
Lol Thats the best you got? Ive got a bag of rust and aluminum shavings all ready to pack up into some anti oppression presents for some certain people.
Nah man, youre wrong! I did prove it and the flat earth model is constantly being improved. Ide point out errors with the ball earth model, but youde just call them rubbish! And then claim i never bring up any valid points! Lol
Just give me a link to where you proved the earth flat!

And please show me one coherent flat earth model, the one you subscribe to!

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 25, 2017, 08:58:04 AM
What globe "model" do you believe in Rab? I mean not all globularists can even agree on the shape of the Earth, why are you so pushy about getting every last detail about my view of the world? Why not STAY ON TOPIC? Hhmmmm? You deceiving derailing troll! And at the moment the topic is the very scary, very real threat of governments abusing their power, and how to stop them.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 25, 2017, 06:10:33 PM
What globe "model" do you believe in Rab? I mean not all globularists can even agree on the shape of the Earth, why are you so pushy about getting every last detail about my view of the world? Why not STAY ON TOPIC? Hhmmmm? You deceiving derailing troll! And at the moment the topic is the very scary, very real threat of governments abusing their power, and how to stop them.
I have no interest in your silly Blue Beam rubbish, but I am very interested in your persistent claim that "The Earth is Flat" and calling all who honestly disagree liars.

You ask "What globe 'model' do you believe in Rab?" That is easy I believe in the "Heliocentric Globe".

It is you claiming that "not all globularists can even agree on the shape of the Earth".  Some justification would help.

There is absolutely no disagreement about basic shape.

The earth is approximately a perfect sphere, with the deviation in polar and equatorial diameters only ±0.16% about the mean value of 12,728 km - big deal!
In many calculations, the spherical approximation is quite close enough.
          For example using the spherical approximation the distance from Brisbane to Dubai (yes, I've flown it non-stop) is 11,980 km,
         when the accurate distance is 11,978 km (Google Earth) - a whole 2 km difference.
         To be fair the difference is more in some cases, but usually within a few kilometres.

But the earth has been known to have a larger equatorial diameter than polar diameter since Isaac Newton's time, the exact difference being refined since then.

So a better approximation to the shape is a "Prolate Spheroid" or an "Ellipsoid" with the equatorial diameters a little larger than the polar diameter.
This is the basis now used for global mapping
Quote
World Geodetic System (WGS84)
The World Geodetic System (WGS84) is the reference coordinate system used by the Global Positioning System. It comprises of a reference ellipsoid, a standard coordinate system, altitude data and a geoid.

Much more in: GISGeography, World Geodetic System (WGS84) (http://gisgeography.com/)
Now, satellite mapping has shown that the shape deviates very slightly from the "WGS84 Reference Ellipsoid", but only in the order of a hundred metres or so. This might be neither here nor there for you and me, but it is significant in GPS calculations.

But, it is untrue to say that "not all globularists can even agree on the shape of the Earth". It is not disagreement as to shape, but simply a question of the precision required for measurements. In most cases calling the earth a sphere is quite close enough.
If you disagree, show me the evidence for "globularists" not agreeing "on the shape of the Earth"

Now, I have answered your question, what about answering mine? Fair's fair!

Nah man, youre wrong! I did prove it and the flat earth model is constantly being improved. Ide point out errors with the ball earth model, but youde just call them rubbish! And then claim i never bring up any valid points! Lol
Just give me a link to where you proved the earth flat!

And please show me one coherent flat earth model, the one you subscribe to!


I do realise that you can't, because:
(1) You have no proof of the flat earth, only things you claim are wrong with the globe - that is not proof of a flat earth.
(2) You have no coherent flat earth model that explains our observations - hardly your fault, no flat earther has.

It is so laughable! The Babylonians had a flat earth "cosmology" that worked fairly well.
They even had the sun, moon and stars rising from and setting behind the horizon, as we observe. You can't even get that right.



Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 26, 2017, 05:26:11 AM
Never have I ever seen a curved horizon.

Always have I seen a flat horizon.

Maybe if I go high enough it will curve

Even after launching a balloon, i cannot see a curved horizon.

Earth is flat.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on February 26, 2017, 07:55:36 PM
Never have I ever seen a curved horizon.
Always have I seen a flat horizon.
Maybe if I go high enough it will curve
Even after launching a balloon, i cannot see a curved horizon.
Earth is flat.
;D ;D So that's your sole evidence of a flat earth.  ;D ;D
So you can simply ignore?
Flat Earth Debate / Re: How high do I have to go to see the curve of Earth? « on: Today at 10:35:51 AM » (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=69045.msg1874652#msg1874652)

Or maybe
There is much, much more that you simply seem to ignore.
Just what sort of evidence do you need?
Just open your eyes and look about you, there is plenty of evidence for a Globe Earth!

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Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on February 27, 2017, 07:44:21 AM
What evidence do YOU need to believe the truth, that Earth is flat!? If YOU launched a balloon and could not see a curve, where there was supposedly one, what would you do? Turn a blind eye and ignore it? I think not!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: BillClinton on February 27, 2017, 08:18:14 AM
How many people here have heard of this uncanny plan? I was unconvinced of its validity until I realized how easy it could become a reality, if Earth is indeed a flat plane. The need to create a fake space program becomes imperative in establishing the idea that we are but a speck in the universe. With this new outlook implemented in the mind of almost every person, it is much easier to accept the existence of aliens, especially now that we have "landed" on the moon ourselves. If we are actually inside of a type of enclosure, the "firmament", it would stand as an excellent screen for projecting everything from UFOs to the appearance of a godly being. It seems almost too perfect to be a coincidence to me.
Bill Clinton here, I can confirm that project blue beam exists and is used to create holograms in the stratosphere such as the "moon" and the "ISS" in order to help convince you that the earth is round.l
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 27, 2017, 08:21:04 AM
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton.  What else is he going to lie about?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: BillClinton on February 27, 2017, 08:30:55 AM
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton.  What else is he going to lie about?

I am the real Bill Clinton I promise.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 27, 2017, 08:42:23 AM
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton.  What else is he going to lie about?

I am the real Bill Clinton I promise.

We require a DNA sample. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: BillClinton on February 27, 2017, 08:46:35 AM
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton.  What else is he going to lie about?

I am the real Bill Clinton I promise.

We require a DNA sample.
As Bill Clinton I can confirm I am the real Bill Clinton.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 27, 2017, 08:48:17 AM
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton.  What else is he going to lie about?

I am the real Bill Clinton I promise.

We require a DNA sample.
As Bill Clinton I can confirm I am the real Bill Clinton.

We will get the DNA evidence from the dress, liar. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on February 27, 2017, 09:03:08 AM
I don't think this is the real Bill Clinton.  What else is he going to lie about?
Maybe what the definition of is is?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 09, 2017, 08:22:47 PM
What evidence do YOU need to believe the truth, that Earth is flat!? If YOU launched a balloon and could not see a curve, where there was supposedly one, what would you do? Turn a blind eye and ignore it? I think not!

Answer I got to my question?

Hi! Im Bill Clinton durrr hurrr hurrrrr
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 10, 2017, 06:20:33 AM
What evidence do YOU need to believe the truth, that Earth is flat!? If YOU launched a balloon and could not see a curve, where there was supposedly one, what would you do? Turn a blind eye and ignore it? I think not!

Answer I got to my question?

Hi! Im Bill Clinton durrr hurrr hurrrrr
I like how rab posted a great list of evidence and observations, things you can easily check out yourself, but you completely ignored them.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 10, 2017, 07:09:33 AM
Because its the same copypasta he always hocks. I like how fake accounts are flooding this thread and you ignore that. Also rabs post was off topic and just an attempt to detract from the real issue. The CIA wants people enslaved.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 10, 2017, 07:37:06 AM
Because its the same copypasta he always hocks. I like how fake accounts are flooding this thread and you ignore that. Also rabs post was off topic and just an attempt to detract from the real issue. The CIA wants people enslaved.
He always backs up his posts with facts, figures, and evidence.  However your point about it being off topic is valid.
No idea what you are referring to about fake accounts.  Even if it's true, why I should I care?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 24, 2017, 08:30:37 AM
Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 24, 2017, 08:38:57 AM
Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.
That's what I'm asking.  Why should I care?  What difference does it make?  And what exactly is a fake account?  I have one account here, is that real or fake?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on March 24, 2017, 09:00:14 AM
Fake is ARHB's favorite word. Watch him accuse this post of being fake.LOL
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: mysticalcreature on March 24, 2017, 10:28:51 AM
Why would a mentally stable person believe in a flat earth where it is covered by a "firmament" with trapped primitive thinking FE? And where the sun and moon are 3,000 miles up.

Let me say this. ALL religious text were written by men. The supreme being is beyond ANY religious text.


Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on March 24, 2017, 10:43:33 AM
Why revive dead N30 threads?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 24, 2017, 11:38:46 AM
Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.
That's what I'm asking.  Why should I care?  What difference does it make?  And what exactly is a fake account?  I have one account here, is that real or fake?

Oh im sorry, do you think bill clinton and obama actually posted here?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on March 24, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.
That's what I'm asking.  Why should I care?  What difference does it make?  And what exactly is a fake account?  I have one account here, is that real or fake?

Oh im sorry, do you think bill clinton and obama actually posted here?
You're not too bright if you do..
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 24, 2017, 02:40:25 PM
Why should you care indeed, mr. Fake account.
That's what I'm asking.  Why should I care?  What difference does it make?  And what exactly is a fake account?  I have one account here, is that real or fake?

Oh im sorry, do you think bill clinton and obama actually posted here?
Uhm no.  The question was why should I care about fake accounts.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: FEskeptic on March 24, 2017, 07:48:02 PM
The CIA wants people enslaved.

They are doing a horrible job of it. How many years have they been around? Yet they still haven't enslaved anyone yet. That's strange for a entity who wants to enslave everyone
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on March 24, 2017, 08:14:54 PM
Oh im sorry, do you think bill clinton and obama actually posted here?
Uhm no.  The question was why should I care about fake accounts.
And why should I care about a fake 15-year-old scientist who pretends to be Arealhumanbeing.
And just fancy a Leader of the Second American Revolution aged 15,
that must be a record, I guess you are the new Benedict Arnold.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 25, 2017, 11:23:04 AM
The Georgia Guidestones

(http://www.radioliberty.com/gg3.gif)

Excellent evidence for the validity and clear and present danger of Project Blue Beam.


The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields:
 (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government,
(2) Population and reproduction control,
(3) The environment and man's relationship to nature, and
(4) Spirituality.

The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction.

He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented.

Above text cited below
(http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm)

Freemasons built that monument.
You are a slave to them.
Wake up.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: PawnedScum on March 25, 2017, 12:33:54 PM
The Georgia Guidestones

(http://www.radioliberty.com/gg3.gif)

Excellent evidence for the validity and clear and present danger of Project Blue Beam.


The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields:
 (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government,
(2) Population and reproduction control,
(3) The environment and man's relationship to nature, and
(4) Spirituality.

The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction.

He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented.

Above text cited below
(http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm)

Freemasons built that monument.
You are a slave to them.
Wake up.
Thanks for pointing this out. Aside from the rubbish written on it, it does line up perfectly with astrological points in the sky.  Something that wouldn't be possible on a flat earth.  You are the Globalist's best weapon.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 25, 2017, 01:47:24 PM
Lol Why are rocks pointing towards the sky impossible on a flat Earth?

Oh, rubbish written on it?

Arent you curious as to why that "rubbish" was even allowed to be created and made into a public monument?

Also why the creators are kept anonymous?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: PawnedScum on March 25, 2017, 03:33:22 PM
Lol Why are rocks pointing towards the sky impossible on a flat Earth?

Oh, rubbish written on it?

Arent you curious as to why that "rubbish" was even allowed to be created and made into a public monument?

Also why the creators are kept anonymous?
They line up with astrological entities that could only be possible on a spherical earth.  You are such a dope.

As for all your other ramblings, it simply means that rich people will spend their money on whatever they like and no conspiracy allowed it or prevented it.  It also proves that you are one of the most susceptible people to conspiracy theories there is. Do you still believe in Santa Claus?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 25, 2017, 04:49:15 PM
Santa Claus didnt build the monument condoning a new world order and "population control".
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 25, 2017, 07:57:09 PM
Lol Why are rocks pointing towards the sky impossible on a flat Earth?

Oh, rubbish written on it?

Arent you curious as to why that "rubbish" was even allowed to be created and made into a public monument?

Also why the creators are kept anonymous?
It was paid for by private individuals and erected on private land.  Why would anyone stop it?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 26, 2017, 08:39:35 AM
Its a public monument visited by many every day.

You sound like the kind of person who would defend the man erecting a stone on a plot of land that says GO NAZIS- KILL ALL JEWS.

I mean if its on private property and he pays for it, its ok right?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 26, 2017, 05:34:28 PM
Its a public monument visited by many every day.

You sound like the kind of person who would defend the man erecting a stone on a plot of land that says GO NAZIS- KILL ALL JEWS.

I mean if its on private property and he pays for it, its ok right?
I'm not sure how the law works in terms of citing people to violence, but there are certainly places that have pro Nazi signs etc.  and yes, if it was paired for privately and is on private property it would legal and the government would have no authority to shut it down.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 26, 2017, 07:54:37 PM
You know you're lying.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on March 26, 2017, 09:04:34 PM
NO U!!!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on March 26, 2017, 09:16:42 PM
NO U!!!

NO U!!!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 26, 2017, 10:06:00 PM
You know you're lying.
Lying about what secifically
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: prasnet on March 27, 2017, 03:25:55 AM
Matthew 24:5, 6, 7

http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-5.htm

http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-6.htm

http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-7.htm

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b338089809d016cc642cdecc347fc83a)

(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/ad_198390459.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&strip=all)

Alien = jinn
Human cooperate with jin
to mislead all mankind
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 29, 2017, 09:29:01 PM
While I do think you have the right idea, with fake aliens being used to control all of humanity through a do or die situation, I dont see how the bible verses relate to Project Blue Beam.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 30, 2017, 06:46:46 PM
You know you're lying.
Lying about what secifically

You think people have rights! They dont! If the government wants something gone, guess what, its gonna happen. Because what is a lowly citizen going to do about it!? Sue? You cant even sue the government unless they say you can!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 31, 2017, 06:53:12 AM
You know you're lying.

Lying about what secifically
Again, lying about what, specifically?

You think people have rights! They dont! If the government wants something gone, guess what, its gonna happen. Because what is a lowly citizen going to do about it!? Sue? You cant even sue the government unless they say you can!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 31, 2017, 07:58:59 AM
Its a public monument visited by many every day.

You sound like the kind of person who would defend the man erecting a stone on a plot of land that says GO NAZIS- KILL ALL JEWS.

I mean if its on private property and he pays for it, its ok right?
I'm not sure how the law works in terms of citing people to violence, but there are certainly places that have pro Nazi signs etc.  and yes, if it was paired for privately and is on private property it would legal and the government would have no authority to shut it down.


There. Quite specifically. There is your lie, and you know it.

The governments of the world have no authority to do ALOT of things, but they do them anyway.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 31, 2017, 08:14:00 AM
Its a public monument visited by many every day.

You sound like the kind of person who would defend the man erecting a stone on a plot of land that says GO NAZIS- KILL ALL JEWS.

I mean if its on private property and he pays for it, its ok right?
I'm not sure how the law works in terms of citing people to violence, but there are certainly places that have pro Nazi signs etc.  and yes, if it was paired for privately and is on private property it would legal and the government would have no authority to shut it down.


There. Quite specifically. There is your lie, and you know it.

The governments of the world have no authority to do ALOT of things, but they do them anyway.
And yet there are plenty of pro Nazi websites and compounds.  There was no lie.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 31, 2017, 11:35:45 AM
Yeah sure you liar.

Pro Nazi compounds?

Point out one, please.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 31, 2017, 03:38:46 PM
Where are they again?  :o

Project Blue Beam is real.

Protest against your nearest space agency, ill start with the spacex office in California.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on March 31, 2017, 05:43:06 PM
No you won't. You'll just continue to hide behind your keyboard.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on March 31, 2017, 06:32:48 PM
I will, but not under those conditions. You must spray paint across the front entrance "earth is flat and rockets aren't real". During working hours. It would help if you had a loaded gun in your pocket, and, oh, I don't know, an 8 ball of coke in your other pocket. Fulfill these conditions, and I will never ever come back. Scouts honor.

Does your challenge still apply? Although I cannot meet your cocaine requirements, I do indeed have a gun and a license to carry.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bullwinkle on March 31, 2017, 11:55:45 PM

I do indeed have a gun and a license to carry.



You are so full of shit, your eyes are brown.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on April 01, 2017, 09:30:04 AM
quote author=IonSpen link=topic=69046.msg1862474#msg1862474 date=1485206619]
I will, but not under those conditions. You must spray paint across the front entrance "earth is flat and rockets aren't real". During working hours. It would help if you had a loaded gun in your pocket, and, oh, I don't know, an 8 ball of coke in your other pocket. Fulfill these conditions, and I will never ever come back. Scouts honor.

Does your challenge still apply? Although I cannot meet your cocaine requirements, I do indeed have a gun and a license to carry.
[/quote]
I thought you were 15.  They don't CCW permits to minors, at least not in any state I can think of.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: dyerssorrow on April 01, 2017, 10:32:49 AM
i have heard of PBB. Two things that I have read about it. It will be used to fool people of the second coming. Or it will be used to fool people of an alien invasion. But thats all I read.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on April 01, 2017, 11:58:26 AM
Cracker Jack box license doesn't count. Nor do cap guns. I have my CC, so I KNOW you don't have yours. You have to be at least 21.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 01, 2017, 04:00:00 PM
No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on April 01, 2017, 04:22:47 PM
No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?
So which is it?  You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on April 01, 2017, 04:51:30 PM
No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?
So which is it?  You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
You better think about this question. Either way it makes you out to be a liar, which you keep slinging around here. Face it, you're in a corner with no way out but to admit you're lying.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on April 03, 2017, 09:41:57 AM
No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?
So which is it?  You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
You better think about this question. Either way it makes you out to be a liar, which you keep slinging around here. Face it, you're in a corner with no way out but to admit you're lying.
BUSTED
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 03, 2017, 11:40:10 AM
No answer? Afraid Ill actually do it and post a picture like in the other thread?
So which is it?  You're 15 or you have a carry permit?
You better think about this question. Either way it makes you out to be a liar, which you keep slinging around here. Face it, you're in a corner with no way out but to admit you're lying.

Which makes it OK for us to call him a fool if I remember the rules correctly.  ;D
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 04, 2017, 05:03:53 PM
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.

Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: IonSpen on April 04, 2017, 05:33:35 PM
You will find those letters on my birth certificate. Is that good enough for you?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 04, 2017, 10:57:35 PM
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.

Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?

Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?

I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 04, 2017, 11:06:34 PM
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.

Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?

Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?

I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.



Have you ever looked at my user age?  It is a bullshit number answered to a bullshit question in a forum profile as well.  Why does it bother you?  Did you put your real birthday in your user profile?  If so, can I have your social security number and your mother"s maiden name as well?  Perhaps you can provide a credit card number so that your information can be verified?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 04, 2017, 11:19:38 PM
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.

Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?

Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?

I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.



Have you ever looked at my user age?  It is a bullshit number answered to a bullshit question in a forum profile as well.  Why does it bother you?  Did you put your real birthday in your user profile?  If so, can I have your social security number and your mother"s maiden name as well?  Perhaps you can provide a credit card number so that your information can be verified?

I don't spend much time looking at your profile. Sorry to disappoint you.

I couldn't care less how old ARHB is  and no have not intention of posting any of the stuff you asked for.

Why does my post bother you? Is he one of your alts or something?

ARHB is a big boy I'm sure he can speak for himself!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 04, 2017, 11:26:11 PM
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.

Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?

Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?

I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.



Have you ever looked at my user age?  It is a bullshit number answered to a bullshit question in a forum profile as well.  Why does it bother you?  Did you put your real birthday in your user profile?  If so, can I have your social security number and your mother"s maiden name as well?  Perhaps you can provide a credit card number so that your information can be verified?

I don't spend much time looking at your profile. Sorry to disappoint you.

I couldn't care less how old ARHB is  and no have not intention of posting any of the stuff you asked for.

Why does my post bother you? Is he one of your alts or something?

ARHB is a big boy I'm sure he can speak for himself!

You people have been hounding him about the age in his user profile.  Nobody has ever done this to me, so I feel left out.  Sort of like when you are the only child that your uncle does not melest.   :'(
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 04, 2017, 11:29:40 PM
My age is about is real as your name Ionspen.

Or should I call you a liar for not entering in the name your mother and father gave you?

Aha! So fifteen is just your user-age. Is your dislike for Nazis just a user-dislike as well?

I bet irl you're a grouchy, septuagenarian. And also a Nazi.



Have you ever looked at my user age?  It is a bullshit number answered to a bullshit question in a forum profile as well.  Why does it bother you?  Did you put your real birthday in your user profile?  If so, can I have your social security number and your mother"s maiden name as well?  Perhaps you can provide a credit card number so that your information can be verified?

I don't spend much time looking at your profile. Sorry to disappoint you.

I couldn't care less how old ARHB is  and no have not intention of posting any of the stuff you asked for.

Why does my post bother you? Is he one of your alts or something?

ARHB is a big boy I'm sure he can speak for himself!

You people have been hounding him about the age in his user profile.  Nobody has ever done this to me, so I feel left out.  Sort of like when you are the only child that your uncle does not melest.   :'(

I'll see if I can get Rab to lead the charge on that. We can't have you feeling left out!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 04, 2017, 11:39:04 PM
You people have been hounding him about the age in his user profile.  Nobody has ever done this to me, so I feel left out.  Sort of like when you are the only child that your uncle does not molest.   :'(
I do apologise, but since you age of 4 seems about right, there seems no reason to comment.

But ARHB acts like a grumpy old man of about 65, yet claims he is only 15 and he's such and obnoxious so-and-so.

Of course I'm going to hound him! I demand the right to be the  >:( grumpy old man  >:( around here, though I'm not very close to 65.

That do for a start, sorry if I'm a bit soft on jroa, but we can't be too hard on a pre-schooler.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 04, 2017, 11:43:17 PM
I'll see if I can get Rab to lead the charge on that. We can't have you feeling left out!

(http://thyblackman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/mission-accomplished.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 04, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
rabinoz is the one to tell people that they act like a grumpy old man.  ::)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 05, 2017, 12:07:12 AM
rabinoz is the one to tell people that they act like a grumpy old man.  ::)

But at least he included you now. I feel bad for you. Getting left out when you're only four can be quite a traumatic experience.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 08, 2017, 04:30:44 PM
Mirage City

(https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w1200/s/amp.news.com.au/image/v1/6ca5a0fab7ca52df4b4a2c07d12b2bb2)
Quote
When a bizarre event was captured on film showing what appeared to be dark skyscrapers floating in the clouds above China, the world was puzzled.
While scientists were quick to dismiss the occurrence as a mirage, not all agreed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/project-blue-beam-conspiracy-theory-suggests-nasa-has-secret-plans-to-create-new-world-order/news-story/25266f2c57e89e139f0fa9daddeb0953

Mirage City 2

(http://wbnd.images.worldnow.com/images/7602503_G.jpg)
Quote

Mirage of Chicago skyline seen from Michigan shoreline.

This creates a bending or ducting effect where the light (image) instead of going in a normal straight line into space, curves back towards the surface of the earth.

http://www.abc57.com/story/28925566/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shoreline




What is it about lying globalists and mirages?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 08, 2017, 06:39:56 PM
Mirage City
(https://amp-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/ii/w1200/s/amp.news.com.au/image/v1/6ca5a0fab7ca52df4b4a2c07d12b2bb2)
Quote
When a bizarre event was captured on film showing what appeared to be dark skyscrapers floating in the clouds above China, the world was puzzled.
While scientists were quick to dismiss the occurrence as a mirage, not all agreed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/technology/project-blue-beam-conspiracy-theory-suggests-nasa-has-secret-plans-to-create-new-world-order/news-story/25266f2c57e89e139f0fa9daddeb0953
So you claim that the city was really floating in the clouds?
But, there is no way of telling that appeared to be floating in the clouds from that picture!
Here try this one!

City in the Clouds Alien UFO Mysteries Filmed In The Sky Over Foshan China.
And you could read a rational explanation of it in Floating Cities are Generally not Fata Morgana Mirages. (https://www.metabunk.org/floating-cities-are-generally-not-fata-morgana-mirages.t6922/)

Yes, read your
"Project Blue Beam conspiracy theory suggests NASA has secret plans to create new world order",
but I don't have to believe it!

I would prefer to believe a logical explanation that has been understood for centuries,  :D long before NASA  :D.
Tycho Brahe was probably one of the first to study the refraction in detail.
. . . . . . . experts in Astronomy and science as well as Church doctrine including Tycho Brahe the greatest astronomer to have graced our earth.

So, Mr Arealhumanbeing, refraction is very real and very variable - and there is plenty of evidence to demonstrate that.

Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
Mirage City 2
(http://wbnd.images.worldnow.com/images/7602503_G.jpg)
Quote

Mirage of Chicago skyline seen from Michigan shoreline.

This creates a bending or ducting effect where the light (image) instead of going in a normal straight line into space, curves back towards the surface of the earth.
http://www.abc57.com/story/28925566/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shoreline
What is it about lying globalists and mirages?
Do you accuse everybody who disagrees with you if lying? Seems like it!

You don't believe in refraction? How much of Chicago Skyline can be seen is very variable.
(http://wbnd.images.worldnow.com/images/7602503_G.jpg)
Mirage of the Chicago Skyline from Grand Mere State Park
   
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VuqBe8otbL2RHP18oWj5poK1MToC0Zq8Xp3AxSpLrBQ=w600-h392-no)
Most of Chicago hidden - behind what?
   
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Horizon/Chicago%20Part%20Hidden_zpsjnph33tb.png)
Oops, where has Chicago gone?

Believe what you like Mr Arealhumanbeing but don't call others liars just because they honestly believe something different.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 08, 2017, 07:36:16 PM
Sounds like something a liar would say.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 08, 2017, 08:36:16 PM
Sounds like something a liar would say.
I guess you would know.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 08, 2017, 10:05:32 PM
Believe what you like Mr Arealhumanbeing but don't call others liars just because they honestly believe something different.

You should listen to your own words.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 08, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
Believe what you like Mr Arealhumanbeing but don't call others liars just because they honestly believe something different.

You should listen to your own words.
Don't worry, Arealhumanbeing, I listen to my own words, but you should try to imagine what others think of your accusations!

I did call İntikam a liar, for very good reason, after he posted this:
. . . . . . . . .
They did nothing. Also today, there is no compass measurement shows that point as a poll. Compass is still showing anywhere else  as  south at there point. So Amunsden and his team were a liar, and the others too.
. . . . . . . . . .
Why isin't there at least one compass measurement at there. Shame on you, because of you join to the same lie!
İntikam falsely accused "Amundsen and his team" of being liars, and I challenged him on it.

But where did I call anyone else, and you in particular, a liar?  Out with it! I could have missed I post,
I cannot find any post where I called you a liar and dozens where you called me any others liars!

I do believe that it's time to remind you of this again:

THE SOCIOPATH WILL ALWAYS ACCUSE YOU OF WHAT THEY ARE GUILTY OF THEMSELF (https://datingasociopath.com/2013/06/08/the-sociopath-will-always-accuse-you-of-what-they-are-guilty-of-themself/)

Quote from:  By Bernard Pliers
Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective Identification
But in the real world, the defense mechanisms are a little more elaborate. For another example of a defense , let's look at "projection," and we are all familiar with this. 
1) The angry person accuses someone else being angry
2) A liar accuses others of lying
3) The cheater accuses others of cheating
4) The thief accuses others of stealing (Notice how the thief is not accusing others of lying? No he's obsessed with only his own sins.)

From: Psychology Of Hatred Part II: Projection & Projective Identification (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/5/12/1187645/-Psychology-Of-Hatred-Part-II-Projection-Projective-Identification)
Liars And Cheaters Worry The Most About Being Lied To And Cheated On (http://elitedaily.com/dating/liars-and-cheaters-worry-most/1053920/)
How to Deal With Someone Who Accuses You of Being a Liar. (http://oureverydaylife.com/deal-someone-accuses-being-liar-30334.html)
And those are not my words, Arealhumanbeing, it is well known in psychological circles.
I am not accusing you of being a liar, but of behaving in a way that a psychologist might deem sociopathic.

Look, grow up a bit!
You are not getting to me, I know where I stand. Others can see from your posts the sort of person you are, let them judge.
Rant and rave, curse and swear all you like, but it reflects on you, not those you accuse, rant and rave, curse and swear at!

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 11, 2017, 12:17:53 PM
No, Rab, you ARE a liar.

Earth is flat.

Project Blue Beam is real.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 17, 2017, 09:13:53 AM
What use is mind control?

Why would the CIA spend so much tine and rescources on something to control peoples minds?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 17, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
No, Rab, you ARE a liar.

Earth is flat.

Project Blue Beam is real.

Have a nice day!

[1] But that is a very poor witness for someone claiming to be a Christian. Please, oh please take note of:
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 17, 2017, 03:57:12 PM
Oh so anyone who says " youre a liar" is automatically a liar themselves?

Youre such a fool Rab.

Ill ask the question again.

What use is mind control to a society of free people?

Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?

If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 17, 2017, 06:50:11 PM
Oh so anyone who says " youre a liar" is automatically a liar themselves?
I did not say that!
Liars And Cheaters Worry The Most About Being Lied To And Cheated On (http://elitedaily.com/dating/liars-and-cheaters-worry-most/1053920/)
How to Deal With Someone Who Accuses You of Being a Liar. (http://oureverydaylife.com/deal-someone-accuses-being-liar-30334.html)
And those are not my words, Arealhumanbeing, it is well known in psychological circles.
I am not accusing you of being a liar, but of behaving in a way that a psychologist might deem sociopathic.
Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
Youre such a fool Rab.
Ill ask the question again.
What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
You seem so confused about the shape of the earth that I take no heed to what you say.
I'm not buying into that argument! I'll let you sort out your own country.

Bye, bye
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 17, 2017, 10:30:04 PM
No, Rab, you ARE a liar.

Earth is flat.

Project Blue Beam is real.

You sound like you're just on the verge of convincing yourself. Say it a few more times. You're almost there. Don't give up now!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 19, 2017, 08:21:09 AM
Earth is flat.


Wake up, the shills abound here!


Ill ask the question again.


What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on April 19, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
Earth is flat.


Wake up, the shills abound here!


Ill ask the question again.


What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 19, 2017, 09:32:21 AM
Earth is flat.


Wake up, the shills abound here!


Ill ask the question again.


What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement

Says the guy posting on the FLAT EARTH website, filled with evidence for a FLAT EARTH, all while evading a question about the CIA....
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on April 19, 2017, 06:38:27 PM
Earth is flat.


Wake up, the shills abound here!


Ill ask the question again.


What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement

Says the guy posting on the FLAT EARTH website, filled with evidence for a FLAT EARTH, all while evading a question about the CIA....
No it is filled largely unsupported claims.  There is no evidence here that does not also work, and usually better, for a round earth.  You have certainly never offered any.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 20, 2017, 05:53:04 PM
Earth is flat.


Wake up, the shills abound here!


Ill ask the question again.


What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?
If your answer is "for national defense" then you better kiss your freedom goodbye.
And yet you still have shown no evidence to support your flat earth statement

Says the guy posting on the FLAT EARTH website, filled with evidence for a FLAT EARTH, all while evading a question about the CIA....
No it is filled largely unsupported claims.  There is no evidence here that does not also work, and usually better, for a round earth. You have certainly never offered any.

Ah yes, evidence like the lack of a curve from civilian aerial footage.

That surely provides a stronger defense for a globe earth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Alpha2Omega on April 20, 2017, 06:30:35 PM
Earth is flat.

That is nothing more than an assertion without evidence.

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Ill ask the question again.

What use is mind control to a society of free people?
Why did the CIA spend so much time researching mass manipulation?

That's two questions.

Do you have any better evidence for some "CIA mind control" thing than you do for the flat earth?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 20, 2017, 06:45:36 PM
Ah yes, evidence like the lack of a curve from civilian aerial footage.

That surely provides a stronger defense for a globe earth.
The Globe earth needs no "defence", it is the only thing that works for innumerable things that are done every day.
Keep attacking with your toothpicks as much as you like - though I have seen nothing like even a pin-prick actually from YOU!
You only evidence seems to be a fatuous claim "EARTH IS FLAT"
and I suppose for someone as short-sighted as youself, it might look that way!

But you ask for civilian, so all these are civilian!
As you have been told numerous times before the horizon on a Globe shows no curve at low altitude and on very little even at 45,000 ft.
But a little can be seen as in this video
]
Show me the Curvature... Here it is.


Ocean Sunrise at 45,000 ft provides more evidence of Horizon drop.


Another Ocean Sunrise - more evidence of Horizon Drop

And even this is civilian (though Japanese government owned) and plenty of curve! It shows a complete circle!
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/Himawari%202016.04.26%2003.30UTC_zpstksv5rlj.png)
Himawari 2016.04.26 03.30 UTC

The sharp water-air horizon is very good evidence of curvature that anyone can easily see!
But "curvature" is only a trivial part of the evidence for the globe. Probably even more important are things like:
And there is much more!

The whole flat earth idea is a shambles and no two flat earthers seem to agree even on the basics.

So, you well claim "EARTH is FLAT" because it seems the only thing you folk can agree on!
Which map? who knows? What makes things fall down? who knows? What are stars?  who knows? or "little lights in the sky!" etc, etc.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 26, 2017, 11:46:20 AM
So, you well claim "EARTH is FLAT" because it seems the only thing you folk can agree on!
Which map? who knows? What makes things fall down? who knows? What are stars?  who knows? or "little lights in the sky!" etc, etc.


Earth IS flat, and your deflection questions that have been answered repeatedly are getting kinda sad...  :)

Wake up! The proof is all around you...

If I was one of the people who hide the fact of flat Earth, I would be running to my undergound mountain base, because people are waking up, and theyre not exactly happy.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 27, 2017, 08:15:45 AM
(https://img.memesuper.com/85f60110e7cef0a3bad5459d19f44eb6_flat-earth-meme-27-1-meme-flat-earth_500-640.jpeg)

http://www.space.com/32030-space-ape-astronaut-scott-kelly-video.html

Its funny at first, but then you realize what it means and it gets real dark real fast...

Wake up people...

Earth is flat.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on April 27, 2017, 09:49:27 AM
(https://img.memesuper.com/85f60110e7cef0a3bad5459d19f44eb6_flat-earth-meme-27-1-meme-flat-earth_500-640.jpeg)

http://www.space.com/32030-space-ape-astronaut-scott-kelly-video.html

Its funny at first, but then you realize what it means and it gets real dark real fast...

Wake up people...

Earth is flat.
Prove it
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 27, 2017, 06:35:55 PM
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 27, 2017, 07:17:35 PM
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.
What looks flat to you? The inside of the ISS, the gorilla suit or the box it came out of?
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NASA astronaut Scott Kelly isn't just flying an epic one-year mission in space. He's doing it with a sense of humor. Case in point: this hilarious ape escape video shot on the International Space Station.

Mr Arealhumanbeing please look up the meaning of "sense of humor" somewhere.
You are so devoid of a sense of humor that I doubt that you even know what the words mean!
:P That is one reason why I often call you Afakehumanbeing :P
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 27, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on April 27, 2017, 08:48:21 PM
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.
Maybe both?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on April 27, 2017, 09:27:52 PM
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.
Maybe both?

I get it  ;D ;D ;D

Plus I doubt a 15 year old pays any tax.

Also if Rab says you need a sense of humour it's serious.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 27, 2017, 10:52:26 PM
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.
Maybe both?

I get it  ;D ;D ;D

Plus I doubt a 15 year old pays any tax.

Also if Rab says you need a sense of humour it's serious.

Ill be laughing when the globalists are tar and feathered.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 27, 2017, 11:53:20 PM
Hes doing it with a sense of humor? Or is he doing it with my tax money.
Maybe both?

I get it  ;D ;D ;D

Plus I doubt a 15 year old pays any tax.

Also if Rab says you need a sense of humour it's serious.

Ill be laughing when the globalists are tar and feathered.

I really hope you wouldn't find something like that funny. I'm sure this is not what Rab had in mind when he implied that you should get a sense of humour.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 28, 2017, 07:58:20 AM
Have you no sense of irony?

The people who thought they could control and fool the masses will be put in stockades and laughed at while hot tar is dumped over their heads and tomatoes thrown into their face by the people they thought they were superior to.

When you realize that they would be content letting you and your family starve because of their ridicoulous laws, regulations and taxes, just so they could continue their lavish lifestyle, leaching off the laymen, your  outlook on the treatment of such people change.

For someone that evil inside, a good tar and feathering is like a good spanking for a kid.

Personally I think a more serious disciplinary action is deserving of them, but i digress, I will be laughing at them when they are brought to justice.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Twerp on April 28, 2017, 09:38:27 AM
ironic =/= funny
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: dutchy on April 28, 2017, 12:17:59 PM
Let me see.......
NASA can show some funny gorilla suit jumping around the ISS, just for fun.
NASA can show the lousiest footage ever from the dark side of the moon orbiting earth.
NASA can show Pluto with accurate resemblance to Disneys' Pluto.

Project Blue beam is all about showing the aliens are real and coming soon.
It will be a piece of cake, because hardly anyone uses their natural gift of visuality anymore.

''Look'' an alien mothership is recorded from the ISS,''there are ''Klingons'' on the starboard side'',.......now we have to disclose about extraterrestrial life and confess that Roswell was real all along.
Hurray for NASA and their willingness to reveal what the general public felt was going on all along. 8)

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on April 28, 2017, 01:04:17 PM
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.
The fact that there is a hard edged horizon proves it is not flat.
Sunrise and set prove it is not flat.
You have zero evidence that NASA is fake.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 28, 2017, 01:11:19 PM
Project Blue beam is all about showing the aliens are real and coming soon.
It will be a piece of cake, because hardly anyone uses their natural gift of visuality anymore.

''Look'' an alien mothership is recorded from the ISS,''there are ''Klingons'' on the starboard side'',.......now we have to disclose about extraterrestrial life and confess that Roswell was real all along.
Hurray for NASA and their willingness to reveal what the general public felt was going on all along. 8)

Thats pretty spot on. And right after they announce the sightings of aliens there will be a worldwide marshall law type deal. Then you can really kiss any freedom goodbye.

Lets hope it doesnt happen.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on April 29, 2017, 10:33:28 PM
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.

You're the one with the revived theory that the earth is flat. It's up to you to prove that it is flat. Just like I have to prove that the earth is young because the majority of the population believes it is old.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on April 30, 2017, 07:51:52 AM
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.

You're the one with the revived theory that the earth is flat. It's up to you to prove that it is flat. Just like I have to prove that the earth is young because the majority of the population believes it is old.

No, like you said, I revived an old theory. Its not mine, its mankinds original outlook on the shape of Earth. I believe in it so strongly only in light of inconsistencies in the explanation of the current theory about the workings in our universe.

So, you may say I must prove that the Earth is flat, but when I can prove that it is not a globe, should we not look to previous explanations as to the nature and shape of our home?

In this day and age when there is so much death and destruction in the "global agenda", I do not see why purporters of a globe shaped Earth see fit to stall and delay with insistance that there is no proof of a flat Earth, when it exists.

Project Blue Beam is real, and if most of the worlds population can be fooled into thinking their home is shaped differently than it really is, than it should be fairly easy to make the same population think that fake aliens are attacking them, and that they must submit all their freedoms for the sake of survival.

Earth is flat.

God is real.

Aliens are fake.

Wake up and smell the government hoax.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Alpha2Omega on April 30, 2017, 10:12:47 AM
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.

You're the one with the revived theory that the earth is flat. It's up to you to prove that it is flat. Just like I have to prove that the earth is young because the majority of the population believes it is old.

No, like you said, I revived an old theory. Its not mine, its mankinds original outlook on the shape of Earth.

Mankind's original outlook on the shape of the earth was based on very limited information. As has been pointed out many times, a small area of a large sphere is difficult to distinguish from a plane without careful measurement, which early mankind couldn't do.

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I believe in it so strongly only in light of inconsistencies in the explanation of the current theory about the workings in our universe.

Before you get too wrapped up in minutiae about "the workings in our universe", worry about the things we experience every day and night. If the earth is flat, how could the sun be rising from below the horizon in New York City at the same time it's high in the sky in Rome and dropping below the horizon in Tokyo?

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So, you may say I must prove that the Earth is flat, but when I can prove that it is not a globe, should we not look to previous explanations as to the nature and shape of our home?

You can't prove it's not a globe. If you think you have conclusive evidence that it's not a globe, please provide it. That will be a tall order because there isn't any. There isn't any because it's not flat.

The question of sunrises and sunsets posed above is just the beginning of the evidence showing that it is not flat. Dealing with that in a convincing way would be a good start.

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In this day and age when there is so much death and destruction in the "global agenda", I do not see why purporters of a globe shaped Earth see fit to stall and delay with insistance that there is no proof of a flat Earth, when it exists.

Would replacing "global agenda" with "world-wide agenda" change anything, or are you just playing with words here?

We insist that there is no proof of a flat earth for the simple reason that there is no proof of a flat earth. There is not even any conclusive evidence supporting the idea that the earth is flat. As noted above, over small areas it can sort of look like it's flat if you ignore enough details.

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Project Blue Beam is real, and if most of the worlds population can be fooled into thinking their home is shaped differently than it really is, than it should be fairly easy to make the same population think that fake aliens are attacking them, and that they must submit all their freedoms for the sake of survival.

You're basing your conclusion ("Project Blue Beam is real") on speculation. You're trying to support your speculation with a non-sequitur. The premise the non-sequitur is based on ("if most of the worlds population can be fooled into thinking their home is shaped differently than it really is") is false, anyway. Wow! A trifecta in one run-on sentence!

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Earth is flat.

Easy to say. Much harder to justify.

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God is real.

If believing that makes you happy, why should I try to dissuade you?

Quote
Aliens are fake.

Wake up and smell the government hoax.

"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: dutchy on May 01, 2017, 12:16:17 PM
not a working link....sorry !!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 01, 2017, 03:52:23 PM

"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?

The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily... You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: dutchy on May 01, 2017, 04:19:47 PM

"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?

The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily... You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?
I do !,...... all to cloak evil entities entering the visible realm while being introduced as cosmic civilisations from outerspace that are out there in abbundance.
I was aware of this a long time ago, but it still gives me the shivers down my spine that the general public isn't aware about the final episode being revealed right in front of their faces without understanding which side to pick. :'(
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Alpha2Omega on May 01, 2017, 04:42:02 PM

"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?

The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily...

Wow! That's a good one! Any evidence? Your opinion is not evidence.

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You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?

They both contain the word 'fake'. Both are two-word expressions. You seem obsessed with both. Are there others?

The first is a figment of your imagination, but the second is not known, so that's not a connection. 'Space' starts with a consonant, has five letters, and is singular while 'aliens' starts with a vowel, has six letters, and is plural, so not that, either (but the singular for 'aliens' has five letters... hmmm...)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 01, 2017, 06:08:27 PM

"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?

The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily...

Wow! That's a good one! Any evidence? Your opinion is not evidence.

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You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?

They both contain the word 'fake'. Both are two-word expressions. You seem obsessed with both. Are there others?

The first is a figment of your imagination, but the second is not known, so that's not a connection. 'Space' starts with a consonant, has five letters, and is singular while 'aliens' starts with a vowel, has six letters, and is plural, so not that, either (but the singular for 'aliens' has five letters... hmmm...)

Wow. You understand language... Good for you...

Now think... Where do fake aliens come from...?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on May 01, 2017, 06:25:23 PM
Now think... Where do fake aliens come from...?
Only a guess, but
possibly from Trumps "fake-news" or the "alternate facts" that goes on about.
Or just possibly out of the too fertile imagination of a ?? year old "scientist" and his kind!
Who knows?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 01, 2017, 06:35:37 PM
Boy, you shills just jump from account to account dont you.

Its like a conversation with one person through many faces...

Anyways, where do the fake aliens come from in the fake news?

Fake space!

So I certainly see a connection there...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on May 01, 2017, 06:56:12 PM

"The government" has been saying there is no reliable evidence that space aliens exist. Is that the hoax?

The government also invented space and lie to us about it daily... You dont see the connection between fake space and fake aliens?
Only in the mind of people like you.
Most believe that space was there long before you and I showed up, and I predate NASA and space exploration.
The idea that the sun, moon, planets and stars were all a huge distance away came long, long before any governments gave any thought to the matter.
Though Tycho Brahe was commissioned by King Frederick II of Denmark
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Tycho accepted an offer from the King Frederick II to fund an observatory. He was given the little island of Hven in the Sont near Copenhagen, and there he built his observatory, Uraniburg, which became the finest observatory in Europe.
Would you build any observatory with a huge sextant like this just to look at "little lights" on a dome above your head?
(http://galileo.rice.edu/images/things/tycho_sextant-t.gif)

Not only that but the distance to the moon was measured, though without modern instruments, about 2200 years ago (in 189 BC) using this method:
(http://www.astro.cornell.edu/academics/courses/astro201/images/hipparchus.gif)
Hipparchus "said the moon was between 35 and 41 Earth diameters away. The modern
value is about 60 radii, or 30 diameters." Not that bad for 2200 years ago!

So no, I do not see "don't see the connection between fake space and fake aliens".

Simply because space is real! And you really should learn a bit of history and of astronomy.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on May 01, 2017, 06:57:32 PM
Now think... Where do fake aliens come from...?

Our sun, I think, kinda like a stargate.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/weird/737818/Aliens-drain-solar-energy-monster-UFOs-Sun-NASA-SOHO/amp

Probably from near the star systems with those dyson spheres we keep finding.

http://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-just-found-a-second-dyson-sphere-star

Possibly.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on May 01, 2017, 07:02:00 PM
you shills
You are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.

Look up what a shill is! And even you might realise who is being deceptive.

I, for one, present what I personally believe, so I am quite genuine and certainly not a "shill".

So,  Mr Arealhumanbeing, please refrain from lxxxx!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Alpha2Omega on May 01, 2017, 08:12:45 PM
Now think... Where do fake aliens come from...?

Um... if they're fake, nowhere?

Where does the idea of fake aliens come from? Your imagination comes immediately to mind. Does that mean "fake space" and "fake aliens" are related because you made both of them up? OK... I guess.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 01, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
Oh so you shills will so strongly believe in aliens even though the official government stance is there is not enough evidence to support the idea...

But then you call flat Earthers insane nutters because theres not enough evidence for a flat Earth?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: disputeone on May 01, 2017, 11:57:39 PM
I think the alien idea is fascinating. We should have more threads on it.

I do follow it casually.

I have never called a flat earther a "nutter."
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on May 02, 2017, 01:45:27 AM
Oh so you shills will so strongly believe in aliens even though the official government stance is there is not enough evidence to support the idea...
As far as I can see there is no evidence that any Globe supporters are paid to post here, I certainly have received nothing.
Why would anyone pay for posts on a little forum like this to promote facts that people have known for many centuries, don't be daft!

But you, Mr Arealhumanbeing seem the most like to be the "shill" atound here. Quite possibly financed by either or both of the
        "Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat" or from the
         copious finances of "The Second American Revolution".

Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
But then you call flat Earthers insane nutters because theres not enough evidence for a flat Earth?
I don't know who called "flat Earthers insane nutters", though many have claimed that they are wrong.
Though it is refreshing to see that you at long last admit that "there's not enough evidence for a flat Earth".
Maybe that is why you do not post evidence for a flat earth.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on May 02, 2017, 05:14:38 AM
Prove its a globe. Because it looks flat to me and NASA is fake.

You're the one with the revived theory that the earth is flat. It's up to you to prove that it is flat. Just like I have to prove that the earth is young because the majority of the population believes it is old.

No, like you said, I revived an old theory. Its not mine, its mankinds original outlook on the shape of Earth. I believe in it so strongly only in light of inconsistencies in the explanation of the current theory about the workings in our universe.

So, you may say I must prove that the Earth is flat, but when I can prove that it is not a globe, should we not look to previous explanations as to the nature and shape of our home?

In this day and age when there is so much death and destruction in the "global agenda", I do not see why purporters of a globe shaped Earth see fit to stall and delay with insistance that there is no proof of a flat Earth, when it exists.

Project Blue Beam is real, and if most of the worlds population can be fooled into thinking their home is shaped differently than it really is, than it should be fairly easy to make the same population think that fake aliens are attacking them, and that they must submit all their freedoms for the sake of survival.

Earth is flat.

God is real.

Aliens are fake.

Wake up and smell the government hoax.
Ok, prove it's not a globe.  So far you have proved nothing
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 02, 2017, 07:42:00 AM
Oh so you shills will so strongly believe in aliens even though the official government stance is there is not enough evidence to support the idea...
As far as I can see there is no evidence that any Globe supporters are paid to post here, I certainly have received nothing.
Why would anyone pay for posts on a little forum like this to promote facts that people have known for many centuries, don't be daft!

But you, Mr Arealhumanbeing seem the most like to be the "shill" atound here. Quite possibly financed by either or both of the
        "Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat" or from the
         copious finances of "The Second American Revolution".

Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
But then you call flat Earthers insane nutters because theres not enough evidence for a flat Earth?
I don't know who called "flat Earthers insane nutters", though many have claimed that they are wrong.
Though it is refreshing to see that you at long last admit that "there's not enough evidence for a flat Earth".
Maybe that is why you do not post evidence for a flat earth.

If you have to sink so low as to nitpick quotes out of context and twist them to your advantage, then I know I am getting to you, shill.

Why would someone pay to shill the globe earth theory here?

Well, this site would sway alot more people to the truth if there werent lying deceiving shills like rabinoz.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on May 02, 2017, 10:25:38 AM
you shills
You are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.

Look up what a shill is! And even you might realise who is being deceptive.

I, for one, present what I personally believe, so I am quite genuine and certainly not a "shill".

So,  Mr Arealhumanbeing, please refrain from lxxxx!
This is exactly what a shill would say.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
you shills
You are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.

Look up what a shill is! And even you might realise who is being deceptive.

I, for one, present what I personally believe, so I am quite genuine and certainly not a "shill".

So,  Mr Arealhumanbeing, please refrain from lxxxx!
This is exactly what a shill would say.

Careful, rab gets very defensive when people call him a shill.  Sounds awfully suspicious to me. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on May 02, 2017, 08:39:35 PM
Oh so you shills will so strongly believe in aliens even though the official government stance is there is not enough evidence to support the idea...
As far as I can see there is no evidence that any Globe supporters are paid to post here, I certainly have received nothing.
Why would anyone pay for posts on a little forum like this to promote facts that people have known for many centuries, don't be daft!

But you, Mr Arealhumanbeing seem the most like to be the "shill" atound here. Quite possibly financed by either or both of the
        "Jewish Sages Think Earth Is Flat" or from the
         copious finances of "The Second American Revolution".

Quote from: Arealhumanbeing
But then you call flat Earthers insane nutters because theres not enough evidence for a flat Earth?
I don't know who called "flat Earthers insane nutters", though many have claimed that they are wrong.
Though it is refreshing to see that you at long last admit that "there's not enough evidence for a flat Earth".
Maybe that is why you do not post evidence for a flat earth.

If you have to sink so low as to nitpick quotes out of context and twist them to your advantage, then I know I am getting to you, shill.

Why would someone pay to shill the globe earth theory here?

Well, this site would sway alot more people to the truth if there werent lying deceiving shills like rabinoz.
You have an open forum here.  Present your evidence instead of whining when others present theirs.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on May 02, 2017, 09:06:28 PM
Careful, rab gets very defensive when people call him a shill.  Sounds awfully suspicious to me.
And you seem to get uptight when people call you Jroa, sounds suspicious to me.
My name is not Rab, but it doesn't bother me, though RAB might be more appropriate, but who cares?

Though in the case of AHRB it's more the choice epithets he adds to it.

But I'm gradually learning the New Flat Earth Dictionary:
Shill: Anyone who disagrees with  :-[ Fat Earth Truth  :P.
Lie: Any piece evidence that seems contrary to  :-[ Fat Earth Truth  :P.

I guess one lives and learns these  ::) truths  ::)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Masalang the Torpedo on May 02, 2017, 10:48:10 PM
I for one eagerly await the arrival of this project. I'm getting soooo sick of what appears to be the Kardashians as who we should be worshipping and devoting our  attention to. Lets get a real badass! I reckon a 2nd coming of Jesus would be pretty damn cool. arealhumanbeings just a scared pussy because Jesus knows he's Satans little bitch shill
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 03, 2017, 11:56:04 AM
I for one eagerly await the arrival of this project. I'm getting soooo sick of what appears to be the Kardashians as who we should be worshipping and devoting our  attention to. Lets get a real badass! I reckon a 2nd coming of Jesus would be pretty damn cool. arealhumanbeings just a scared pussy because Jesus knows he's Satans little bitch shill

Wow what a sad attempt to deface my name.

You dont even know the premise of the topic.

Project Blue Beam is the FAKED coming of Jesus.

Of course shifter the shill would endorse a plan to enslave the majority of humanity.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on May 03, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
you shills
You are posting untruths Mr Arealhumanbeing! Yet you are that one claiming that so many others are liars.

Look up what a shill is! And even you might realise who is being deceptive.

I, for one, present what I personally believe, so I am quite genuine and certainly not a "shill".

So,  Mr Arealhumanbeing, please refrain from lxxxx!
This is exactly what a shill would say.

Careful, rab gets very defensive when people call him a shill.  Sounds awfully suspicious to me.
Yeah you're right, I've noticed that also.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Masalang the Torpedo on May 03, 2017, 02:05:39 PM
I for one eagerly await the arrival of this project. I'm getting soooo sick of what appears to be the Kardashians as who we should be worshipping and devoting our  attention to. Lets get a real badass! I reckon a 2nd coming of Jesus would be pretty damn cool. arealhumanbeings just a scared pussy because Jesus knows he's Satans little bitch shill

Wow what a sad attempt to deface my name.

You dont even know the premise of the topic.


Project Blue Beam is the FAKED coming of Jesus.

Of course shifter the shill would endorse a plan to enslave the majority of humanity.

How do you know it's fake? Maybe this project is what Jesus meant when he said he would return someday?

Fake or not, He'll be more worthy of worship than the Kardashians and other American rubbish pop culture  :P
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on May 18, 2017, 05:27:22 PM
Youde worship something fake?

Says alot about you...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Masalang the Torpedo on May 18, 2017, 11:01:16 PM
We are currently worshipping the Kardashians. They are as fake as they come. What's so different about that?

One pretends they can design clothes and handbags. The other will pretend they are JESUS and hopefully have super cool powers to back it up.

I know where my vote will go  :P
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 10, 2017, 04:34:52 AM
We are currently worshipping the Kardashians. They are as fake as they come. What's so different about that?

One pretends they can design clothes and handbags. The other will pretend they are JESUS and hopefully have super cool powers to back it up.

I know where my vote will go  :P


Now I have a mental image of you wearing a sequined purse.   >:( ;)

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Arealhumanbeing on June 30, 2017, 02:24:34 PM
Bullwinkle, can I post yoyr confession where you admit youre a shill yet? Its sad that everytime ive asked that youve denied me the opportunity, which is grounds to be permenantly banned. Anyone who doubts that read through my posts! The proof is in the pudding!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on October 02, 2017, 09:30:40 AM
What in the world happened to my thread!?
As I took my leave for a while, I was discussing the government being controlled by a satanic cult!
Keep on topic! We are in deathly peril.
Everyone has the question as to why the Freemason logo is on American money, but they have no real answer.

Unless the obvious answer is true... That the Freemasons control American politics and economics.
Project Blue Beam, in its essence, is the ultimate goal of this deception. Slavery of the masses.

(https://i.imgur.com/li1roSJl.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: zork on October 02, 2017, 03:06:31 PM
Last I  heard lizards controlled American politics and economics. Or is there some power struggle between lizard aliens and freemasons?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on October 02, 2017, 07:03:53 PM
What in the world happened to my thread!?
As I took my leave for a while, I was discussing the government being controlled by a satanic cult!
Keep on topic! We are in deathly peril.
Everyone has the question as to why the Freemason logo is on American money, but they have no real answer.

Unless the obvious answer is true... That the Freemasons control American politics and economics.
Project Blue Beam, in its essence, is the ultimate goal of this deception. Slavery of the masses.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/3oimjvxqs2d3bix/Off%20with%20their%20heads.jpeg?dl=1)
Off with their heads
I'm offended, you left me out! So I :P improved :P your picture!

By the way, what has the above got to do with the shape of the earth? Anyone can see that it's not flat - open your eyes -
and these photos prove it! Copied from an earlier post, as I've wasted too much time on a loser like you already!

I'm sorry, have you witnesses Earth's curvature with your own eyes?
There is a lot more to it than curvature, but yes I have, :D here: :D
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4hnrb8hpctui84/Sharp%20Horizon%20from%20near%20Sea%20Level%20-%20at%20Shorncliffe.jpg?dl=1)
Sharp Horizon from near Sea Level at Shorncliffe
     
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/kqpj9nk7v0nou0c/Scarborough%20Beacon%2050%20mm%20lens.jpg?dl=1)
Sharp Horizon, Scarborough Beacon 50 mm lens

But you'll say "the horizon looks flat." Of course it does, it looks exactly as it should on a huge globe. You are looking at a circle about 5 km away and about 4 m below eye=level, that's an angle of under 0.05°.
It should look flat and so close to eye-level that only an accurate syrveyor's level of theodilite could pick the difference.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/abvtouhbm0c2pg4/Scarborough%20Beacon%20on%20Horizon%20-%20str.JPG?dl=1)
Scarborough Beacon on Horizon from 50 cm above water
     
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/99tjm0rxoatcm2g/Scarborough%20Horizon%20past%20Beacon.jpg?dl=1)
Scarborough Horizon past Beacon from 3 m above water

But I do believe others' photos too, especially when they are taken by flat earthers, when they seem to be genuine:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/7c33oqcoezqtsrj/Lake%20Pontchartrain%20Transmission%20Lines%20Nikon%20P900%20.jpg?dl=1)
Lake Pontchartrain Transmission Lines Nikon P900
     
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/fcckeitocn1cucr/Losing%20Your%20Ride%20at%20121%2C000%20Feet%20-%20A%20Preview%20Indiana%20Caver%20at%200.17%20secs.jpg?dl=1)
Even some flat earthers do some good balloon flights and videos!
Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - A Preview Indiana Caver at 0:17 secs
But for me "seeing curvature" is just a minor part of it. So many simple (and not so simple) things that fit the Globe, but don't make any sense on a flat earth.

Things like the weight of a "calibration quality" 500 g mass changing quite measurably forIn 
[youtube][/youtube]
Flat Earth vs Globe - Does weight change with Latitude? Is this evidence the Earth is spinning? at 2:22
and
[youtube][/youtube]
Flat Earth vs Globe - The Eötvös effect observed in aircraft - how does it affect Gravity?/b]
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on October 11, 2017, 12:04:06 PM
Quote
“The fact is, we might not necessarily be alone,” Luis Elizondo says. “Now is the time to move forward and try to answer some of life’s deepest mysteries.” This is not going to happen if we stick with the status quo.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/inside-knowledge-about-unidentified-aerial-phenomena_us_59dc1230e4b0b48cd8e0a5c7

They will be announcing aLIEns soon.


Now is the time to really spread the word!

By "not sticking to the status quo" they mean enforcing a New World Order under the authority of these fake aliens.

(https://i.imgur.com/3qyeGBRl.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Masalang the Torpedo on October 11, 2017, 01:29:03 PM
Good. I think Humanity could do with some interstellar alien invasion. It may unite us all against a common existential threat and give us some cool space battles. Maybe North Korea could put their nukes to GOOD use up some alien warlords arse. What do you think?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on March 09, 2018, 06:48:08 PM
Good. I think Humanity could do with some interstellar alien invasion.

I would report you to the FBI for saying that if I thought they were a legitimate organization, thats what I think.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Masalang the Torpedo on March 09, 2018, 07:06:50 PM
You're a slow thinker. I wrote through nearly 4 months ago.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Badxtoss on March 09, 2018, 07:09:23 PM
You're a slow thinker. I wrote through nearly 4 months ago.
Well given the fact that he thinks hoping for an alien invasion is a federal offense I think being a slow thinker is the least of his problems.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on March 09, 2018, 08:16:25 PM
No, I just have better things to do than argue online 24/7 like I am getting paid to do it or something...
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: NAZA on March 09, 2018, 08:29:11 PM
No, I just have better things to do than argue online 24/7 like I am getting paid to do it or something...

Like bumping old threads where you were proven wrong multiple times?
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on March 09, 2018, 08:31:12 PM
No, I like bumping old threads that prove there are people manipulating and lying about obvious facts.

I know you will never agree with me, because you, NAZA, are one of those people.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: NAZA on March 09, 2018, 08:50:56 PM
No, I like bumping old threads that prove there are people manipulating and lying about obvious facts.

Like lying about pictures of buoys and oil rigs?

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74567.0
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: N30 on March 09, 2018, 08:53:27 PM
Thanks for linking all my stuff together!

It makes it easier for people to realize the truth., which I tell, and you dont.

Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on March 10, 2018, 12:19:14 AM
No, I like bumping old threads that prove there are people manipulating and lying about obvious facts.
No, Mr N30, you are the one proven to be lying.

Then this!
It makes it easier for people to realize the truth., which I tell, and you dont.
I never knew you had a sense-of-humour,
but your claiming that you tell the truth is the biggest joke I've heard since the joke that some ignorant people are still ::) flat earthers ::), ridiculous! ;D

But, I doubt that you and "the truth" have ever even had a passing acquaintance.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on March 10, 2018, 12:33:14 AM
It makes it easier for people to realize the truth., which I tell, and you dont.
I never knew you had a sense-of-humour, but your claiming that you tell the truth is the biggest joke
I've heard since the joke that some ignorant people are still ::) flat earthers ::), ridiculous!

But, I doubt that you and "the truth" have ever even had a passing acquaintance.

Here want a pretty picture
:P :P and it's from your  :P :P favourite source of information  :P :P! Hope you like it!
A NASA camera aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR)
satellite captured a unique view of the moon as it moved in front of the
sunlit side of Earth last month. The series of test images shows the fully
illuminated “dark side” of the moon that is never visible from Earth.

The images were captured by NASA’s Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC),
a four megapixel CCD camera and telescope on the DSCOVR satellite orbiting
1 million miles from Earth. From its position between the sun and Earth,
DSCOVR conducts its primary mission of real-time solar wind monitoring
for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/thumbnails/image/dscovrepicmoontransitfull.gif?itok=m-pCEXqi)
This animation features actual satellite images of the far side of the moon,
illuminated by the sun, as it crosses between the DSCOVR spacecraft's
Earth Polychromatic Imaging Camera (EPIC) and telescope, and the Earth
 - one million miles away. Credits: NASA/NOAA
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on March 10, 2018, 02:40:54 AM
No, I like bumping old threads that prove there are people manipulating and lying about obvious facts.

I know you will never agree with me, because you, NAZA, are one of those people.
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on March 10, 2018, 04:06:30 AM
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.
Do you have any evidence to support the outlandish claim that you are a person? See a bot could easily have written that!
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: hoppy on March 10, 2018, 04:50:22 AM
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.
Do you have any evidence to support the outlandish claim that you are a person? See a bot could easily have written that!
This is exactly what a bot would say💻
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: Son of Orospu on March 10, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Investigation is on-going. 
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rvlvr on March 10, 2018, 09:50:53 AM
I am sure this is somehow related:
http://www.newsweek.com/scott-kelly-astronauts-nasa-dna-838535
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on March 10, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
Investigation is on-going.
It's probably a safe bet.  The world's a big place.
Title: Re: Project Blue Beam
Post by: rabinoz on March 10, 2018, 04:27:58 PM
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claim that it is a person.
Do you have any evidence to support the outlandish claim that you are a person? See a bot could easily have written that!
This is exactly what a bot would say💻
Since "This is exactly what a bot would say" and you seem to say it every  time, I guess that proves that you must be a robotic-sheep-in-boots.
Figures, as you never come up with anything original.