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This is a place to discuss the upcoming SpaceX launch as well as provide images and videos of it from yourself.
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Wow, great video. Thanks for posting.
Yet another, according to the FE'ers, enormously convoluted and prohibitively expensive public show to fool people into believing in space exploration/satellites and the Globe... all for reasons unknown. Who wouldn't subscribe to such a theory!
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The return to Earth landing is absolutely amazing!
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Fiction is designed to amaze. Short bus rider supply line is growing longer and longer by the minute.
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CRS = Can't remember Shit in regard to actual rocketry principles for CoP/CoG relationship so must make up CGI and hire actors to cheer and act excited. No problem. Promise a spleef to any 18 - 30 Californian they are on board with most bull shit.
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Of course, the bull shit must be "nominal."
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
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Yippeeeeeee another rocket launch to space and land back to Earth by those clever people at space sex.
Rent-a-mob for screaming decibels - check.
Rocket systems all NOMINAL - check.
Spew bucket ready - check.
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Yippeeeeeee another rocket launch to space and land back to Earth by those clever people at space sex.
Rent-a-mob for screaming decibels - check.
Rocket systems all NOMINAL - check.
Yeah, the whole world is a conspiracy hoax. Why? Reasons.
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space sex.
Sounds messy. :-X
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Yippeeeeeee another rocket launch to space and land back to Earth by those clever people at space sex.
Rent-a-mob for screaming decibels - check.
Rocket systems all NOMINAL - check.
Yeah, the whole world is a conspiracy hoax. Why? Reasons.
Because it's easy to do, because people are naive and are mimicking followers - in the main.
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Launch and landing time lapse.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnn13axVYAAt1UV.jpg)
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Yippeeeeeee another rocket launch to space and land back to Earth by those clever people at space sex.
Rent-a-mob for screaming decibels - check.
Rocket systems all NOMINAL - check.
Yeah, the whole world is a conspiracy hoax. Why? Reasons.
Because it's easy to do, because people are naive and are mimicking followers - in the main.
show your evidence of flat earth.
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Yippeeeeeee another rocket launch to space and land back to Earth by those clever people at space sex.
Rent-a-mob for screaming decibels - check.
Rocket systems all NOMINAL - check.
Yeah, the whole world is a conspiracy hoax. Why? Reasons.
Because it's easy to do, because people are naive and are mimicking followers - in the main.
show your evidence of flat earth.
Classic deflection tactics brought to fore...you fucking shills are shit at your shit jobs.
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
Just so you know I actually saw the launch and landing in real life. Very spectacular. Was about 5 miles away from the landing pad and in my footage when the engine was cutting off I saw a silhouette of what appeared to be a Falcon 9 first stage. If it's fake, how do you explain that?
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
Just so you know I actually saw the launch and landing in real life. Very spectacular. Was about 5 miles away from the landing pad and in my footage when the engine was cutting off I saw a silhouette of what appeared to be a Falcon 9 first stage. If it's fake, how do you explain that?
That's easy! Totally Lacking will just claim that you're lying - like he does all the time!
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
Just so you know I actually saw the launch and landing in real life. Very spectacular. Was about 5 miles away from the landing pad and in my footage when the engine was cutting off I saw a silhouette of what appeared to be a Falcon 9 first stage. If it's fake, how do you explain that?
Cool
Story
bro
What footage? How does anyone know you took the footage? You sound like shill. If you had footage up front, why did you not post it up front?
Immediate answer that comes to my mind? You do not have any footage.
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
No but Papa Legba Total Nutter, is of primary school mental age, so that's about as good as you'll get.
MrDebunk, I'm envious, I saw a shuttle launch back in the 1980's STS-41B, still remember it clearly. Did you get any video?
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
Just so you know I actually saw the launch and landing in real life. Very spectacular. Was about 5 miles away from the landing pad and in my footage when the engine was cutting off I saw a silhouette of what appeared to be a Falcon 9 first stage. If it's fake, how do you explain that?
Cool
Story
bro
What footage? How does anyone know you took the footage? You sound like shill. If you had footage up front, why did you not post it up front?
Immediate answer that comes to my mind? You do not have any footage.
Yes I have footage you intelligence-lacker. But it's so amateur I'll probably never upload it in its video form, the most I'll probably do is put up some stills.
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
Just so you know I actually saw the launch and landing in real life. Very spectacular. Was about 5 miles away from the landing pad and in my footage when the engine was cutting off I saw a silhouette of what appeared to be a Falcon 9 first stage. If it's fake, how do you explain that?
That's easy! Totally Lacking will just claim that you're lying - like he does all the time!
You'll like this...
[quote author=totallackofintelligence link=topic=67411.msg1800307#msg1800307 date=1468854983]
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
Just so you know I actually saw the launch and landing in real life. Very spectacular. Was about 5 miles away from the landing pad and in my footage when the engine was cutting off I saw a silhouette of what appeared to be a Falcon 9 first stage. If it's fake, how do you explain that?
It's easy to explain by you telling frigging lies.
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
No, you are wrong, to see the world as you see it, requires that you believe everyone on the planet is lying to you for some as yet unexplained reason.
That's almost the definition of insane.
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
No, you are wrong, to see the world as you see it, requires that you believe everyone on the planet is lying to you for some as yet unexplained reason.
That's almost the definition of insane.
Nah, there's plenty of honest people on this Earth. In fact the way I see it is simple. You get the elite, then you get the puppets for the elite (the actors) and then there's the audience. (us)
When the mere mention of the actor is used, people just assume film. It's much more than just actors in films.
You see, actors can be musicians or they can be astronauts or owners of big industries or innovators for stuff like space sex and what not.. The list is endless but the issue is still the same. They are run by actors.
Actors act out scenarios. They do what the elite tell them to do for rewards.
You get the big time actors and the small time fringe actors. These are better known as shills.
Actors get to the top by following protocol. The audience put them on a pedestal. They get idolised by advertisement of their wares/acting skills/ability to make fantasy appear real.
The world has a big audience who are basically honest people, to a degree. However, we can all be bought to a degree, also. It just depends on the price in reward or the price on your head.
We can all tell white lies. We can all tell a fib and turn a dull story into a palatable story by adding a bit of excitement by bending the truth. Most actors and actresses do that and never even think of it like duping the audience. They think of it as doing a service to the people by providing a fantasy story line.
They automatically assume that the audience are rational people.
The issue is,, the audience aren't rational people. They appear so but are far from it in some cases, because the very same rational people buy into the fantasy and turn it into reality. It becomes a real life discussion among work mates. It becomes an emotional roller coaster for many.
The scary part is, this could be nothing more than a clear fantasy show like coronation street that sort of depicts real life but isn't real life.
And then we have the rocket launches to space. Fantasy shows that depict real life missile launches but are fantasy from that point on. Basically missiles launched and the rest is took over by actors and actresses.
The audience buy into the space part and even idolise the actors playing the parts of astronauts or even CEO's of companies supposedly sending them up.
We are sold fantasy every day - and every day the fantasy becomes more silly, because the people who push it are getting bored. Duping the public is no fun because it's just too easy.
The way they keep it going is by taking turns in cooking up the most absurd ideas and using actors to carry it out.
The mars crew (the blue shirts) Elvis wannabe, Adam Steltzner and co. An absolute utter joke.
Then the pluto crew.
Now the jupiter crew.
These silly launch and land rockets are just another adage into the space bullshit.
There's a hell of a lot more bullshit to come for people.
The Early days were made up of Arthur C Clarke fantasy. The inventor of the geostationary satellite. A sci-fi writer invented the geo-satellite. It then became real to the audience because it was used for that purpose.
All the best space stuff is written by sci-fi writers and executed by the technicians of the time and the planners who make it all appear real to the gullible public. I was one and probably still am with some stuff, because I can't keep track of all the bullshit or potential bullshit.
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
Thanks for that blanket statement Scepti. Holds about as much weight as totallackey's remarks (but hey, at least you spared the insults!).
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
Thanks for that blanket statement Scepti. Holds about as much weight as totallackey's remarks (but hey, at least you spared the insults!).
You people need to wake up and do it quickly. Once you realise how silly this all is and how easily you were duped, you have a massive journey of realisation to come.
Argue it all you want but it doesn't change that fact.
I'm assuming this on you being basically honest.
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It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
Common sense that only applies to you, your views are nonsense to everyone else. It's healthy to be skeptical, but unhealthy to deny reality.
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It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
Common sense that only applies to you, your views are nonsense to everyone else. It's healthy to be skeptical, but unhealthy to deny reality.
I'm not denying reality. I'm observing fantasy and bad acting.
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It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
Common sense that only applies to you, your views are nonsense to everyone else. It's healthy to be skeptical, but unhealthy to deny reality.
I'm not denying reality. I'm observing fantasy and bad acting.
Yes, I understand where you are coming from, but please be aware that some of us have experiences and knowledge that directly contradicts your opinions.
In this case (the SpaceX Launch), you are attempting to deny reality, with nothing more than wacky preconceived notions and zero understanding.
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How can you claim something is fake without proof and then complain to people who say its real because they have no proof?
I would appreciate an answer with less insult and more evidence totallackey....this isn't primary school.
It requires nothing more than basic common sense.
Getting a grip on reality is the first stage of seeing how much bullshit is being shoveled into your mind.
Thanks for that blanket statement Scepti. Holds about as much weight as totallackey's remarks (but hey, at least you spared the insults!).
You people need to wake up and do it quickly. Once you realise how silly this all is and how easily you were duped, you have a massive journey of realisation to come.
Argue it all you want but it doesn't change that fact.
I'm assuming this on you being basically honest.
I regard myself as basically honest. And I don't wish to be duped. However, I don't see many problems with the accepted version of reality.
So, why should I believe you when you say I am being duped? What is it that should make me choose your version of reality over the accepted one?
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That last paragraph from Copper sums up exactly where I was heading.
I just told my friend that we don't have class tomorrow....he asked me "did you get that from a peer reviewed journal?" lol. It is somewhat of a running joke that you cant say anything in science without backing it up. I would just like to see a bit less of a running commentary about being duped and more info to actually bring some substance to your view point Mr.Scepti :)
To me, I saw a launch and a landing (I admit it was in somewhat of a tacky and over the top, commercialized manner).
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That last paragraph from Copper sums up exactly where I was heading.
I just told my friend that we don't have class tomorrow....he asked me "did you get that from a peer reviewed journal?" lol. It is somewhat of a running joke that you cant say anything in science without backing it up. I would just like to see a bit less of a running commentary about being duped and more info to actually bring some substance to your view point Mr.Scepti :)
To me, I saw a launch and a landing (I admit it was in somewhat of a tacky and over the top, commercialized manner).
What do you mean by tacky and over the top?
Also, tell me about this space rocket launch. Tell me what rocket it was and whether it was manned or not. Tell me where you were when yous aw this and what scope you used to clearly see that it was a space rocket.
You are not obliged to answer my questions, as you well know. It's entirely up to you.
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That last paragraph from Copper sums up exactly where I was heading.
I just told my friend that we don't have class tomorrow....he asked me "did you get that from a peer reviewed journal?" lol. It is somewhat of a running joke that you cant say anything in science without backing it up. I would just like to see a bit less of a running commentary about being duped and more info to actually bring some substance to your view point Mr.Scepti :)
To me, I saw a launch and a landing (I admit it was in somewhat of a tacky and over the top, commercialized manner).
What do you mean by tacky and over the top?
Also, tell me about this space rocket launch. Tell me what rocket it was and whether it was manned or not. Tell me where you were when yous aw this and what scope you used to clearly see that it was a space rocket.
You are not obliged to answer my questions, as you well know. It's entirely up to you.
And if he answers your questions and I daresay he will, what of it? How is answering your questions going to determine anything of value? You're just going to deny all of it anyway, regardless of what is said. You're a broken record and a liar to boot. The *only* argument you ever bring forth is incredulity; never any evidence (even circumstantial), never anything of substance, not even deductive reasoning.
Not matter the circumstances, no matter the amount of evidence or eye witnesses, it's always wrong if you deem it so. This will be too; indeed, you've already labeled it as such. Your evidence for this? Nothing of course, just general hand waving and prattle about irrelevancies.
I'd ask you to prove me wrong but, frankly, you're incapable. Basically, if it's mainstream, it's all wrong/a scam.
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That last paragraph from Copper sums up exactly where I was heading.
I just told my friend that we don't have class tomorrow....he asked me "did you get that from a peer reviewed journal?" lol. It is somewhat of a running joke that you cant say anything in science without backing it up. I would just like to see a bit less of a running commentary about being duped and more info to actually bring some substance to your view point Mr.Scepti :)
To me, I saw a launch and a landing (I admit it was in somewhat of a tacky and over the top, commercialized manner).
What do you mean by tacky and over the top?
Also, tell me about this space rocket launch. Tell me what rocket it was and whether it was manned or not. Tell me where you were when yous aw this and what scope you used to clearly see that it was a space rocket.
You are not obliged to answer my questions, as you well know. It's entirely up to you.
And if he answers your questions and I daresay he will, what of it? How is answering your questions going to determine anything of value? You're just going to deny all of it anyway, regardless of what is said. You're a broken record and a liar to boot. The *only* argument you ever bring forth is incredulity; never any evidence (even circumstantial), never anything of substance, not even deductive reasoning.
Not matter the circumstances, no matter the amount of evidence or eye witnesses, it's always wrong if you deem it so. This will be too; indeed, you've already labeled it as such. Your evidence for this? Nothing of course, just general hand waving and prattle about irrelevancies.
I'd ask you to prove me wrong but, frankly, you're incapable. Basically, if it's mainstream, it's all wrong/a scam.
Of course I'm going to go all detective on him. I don't readily swallow the words of a person who claims this and that without evidence. I spent a large part of my life doing this stuff.
There is a saying:
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I've never heard of a saying for, fool me once shame on you - fool me thousands of times - shame on me.
You see; I've been fooled thousands of times, like all or just about all of us have. I got sick of it. I got to the stage where I decided to make sure I questioned everything until I was satisfied with the answers from the stories that were/are told to me as being a truth or at best ' a theory.'
I can read a hundred books of fiction. I can enjoy the stories told. I can live my life through those very same types of books and be taken to the places those books send me ' in my mind.'
What I can't do is physically prove those books to be real if I ever decided to tell the stories to other people, but I could get people to believe those stories, as long as I don't mention that those stories are merely fiction.
Once I hook people up to my thinking, I become an idol. I become a best seller. I leave people hanging onto my every word. I leave them wondering and also hoping the next story is forth-coming.
This is what your mainstream story tellers are doing. Your Arthur C Clark's and like-minded sci-fi story tellers, aided by the technical people to make it believable by making it visual.
Whether you choose to wake up or choose to follow the fantasy to your tomb, is entirely your choice. None of us can change anything. What will be will be. The scripts are already written well in advance. The story is never ending.
I'll tell you one thing. I feel like slapping myself for blindly believing we walked about on a spinning frigging globe. I am embarrassed to hell that I believed it made sense and yet just a few weeks of thought, maybe 10 minutes a day, changed all of that.
I didn't need to figure out what Earth was in its exactness, I just had to figure out what it wasn't.
Once you manage this, you realise that the space rockets and all of the supposed space missions of all kinds sold to us - are absolute crap.
And that's just the start of it.
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I didn't need to figure out what Earth was in its exactness, I just had to figure out what it wasn't.
Once you manage this, you realise that the space rockets and all of the supposed space missions of all kinds sold to us -pp are absolute crap.
And that's just the start of it.
Did you ever think that you might have it all wrong? How would you prove to me that you are correct? I mean real proof. None of your guesswork.
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I didn't need to figure out what Earth was in its exactness, I just had to figure out what it wasn't.
Once you manage this, you realise that the space rockets and all of the supposed space missions of all kinds sold to us -pp are absolute crap.
And that's just the start of it.
Did you ever think that you might have it all wrong? How would you prove to me that you are correct? I mean real proof. None of your guesswork.
That's just it. It's not down to me to prove anything to you. It's down to you to prove it to yourself. I'm just a name on a forum, just like you.
Where it becomes more real is when you sit back at home and ponder it all for yourself or with someone close to you if they are interested.
You see; by that time you're not arguing the toss with me or anyone like me. You don't need to play guessing games as to whether I'm a bare faced liar or merely just a fantasist story teller just coming out with whatever.
I shouldn't even be in your mind if what I say is unworthy or any merit. I'm being serious here. You should literally look at my name and click it off in disgust or at least in pity if you are not remotely willing to see anything in what I say.
Obviously I say this with the assumption that you are not a shill. Whether you are or are not, is irrelevant to me, because my thoughts are for me and for those that can take something from them as I type.
We can spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week and 52 weeks a year asking for proof's and you arguing that your globe works because it's all set up on a plate. I could copy and paste all the info that goes against it.
I don't because I don't follow a lot of it all. I'm still figuring it all out.
As I said earlier. I've already figured out that the Earth is not a globe. If you stick rigidly to that then you really have no need to pursue anything on here. Obviously I'm not telling you to go, I'm merely saying that being on a flat Earth forum arguing for your globe and all of the mainstream science that gets bandied about, is a complete and utter waste of your leisure time, unless your goal is to make sure alternate Earth theories and anti mainstream science theories are ridiculed and frowned upon.
I know you're Geoff. Other's know you're Geoff. You changed tactics for whatever reasons and yet you still end up at square one.
If you have any real honestly and a desire to find the truth, you will at the very least severely question your indoctrination.
Anyway, what you do is entirely up to you. Ridicule and all the rest of it is pointless with seasoned posters. You know this but some of your like-minded friends do not.
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I didn't need to figure out what Earth was in its exactness, I just had to figure out what it wasn't.
Once you manage this, you realise that the space rockets and all of the supposed space missions of all kinds sold to us -pp are absolute crap.
And that's just the start of it.
Did you ever think that you might have it all wrong? How would you prove to me that you are correct? I mean real proof. None of your guesswork.
That's just it. It's not down to me to prove anything to you. It's down to you to prove it to yourself. I'm just a name on a forum, just like you.
Where it becomes more real is when you sit back, at home and ponder it all for yourself of with someone close top you if they are interested.
You see, by that time you're not arguing the toss with me or anyone like me. You don't need to play guessing games as to whether I'm a bare faced liar or merely just a fantasist story teller just coming out with whatever.
I shouldn't even be in your mind if what I say is unworthy or any merit. I'm being serious here. You should literally look at my name and click it off in disgust or at least in pity, if you are not remotely willing to see anything in what I say.
Obviously I say this with the assumption that you are not a shill. Whether you are or are not, is irrelevant to me, because my thoughts are for me and for those that can take something from them as I type.
We can spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week and 52 weeks a year asking for proof's and you arguing that your globe works because it's all set up on a plate. I could copy and paste all the info that goes against it.
I don't because I don't follow a lot of it all. I'm still figuring it all out.
As I said earlier. I've already figured out that the Earth is not a globe. If you stick rigidly to that then you really have no need to pursue anything on here. Obviously I'm not telling you to go, I'm merely saying that being on a flat Earth forum arguing for your globe and all of the mainstream science that gets bandied about, is a complete and utter waste of your leisure time, unless your goal is to make sure alternate Earth theories and anti mainstream science theories are ridiculed and frowned upon.
I know you're Geoff. Other's know you're Geoff. You changed tactics for whatever reasons and yet you still end up at square one.
If you have any real honestly and a desire to find the truth, you will at the very least severely question your indoctrination.
Anyway, what you do is entirely up to you. Ridicule and all the rest of it is pointless with seasoned posters. You know this but some of your like-minded friends do not.
Stop with the Geoff BS, I have no idea who Geoff is, that's just a legba distraction, if you want to lump everyone who disagrees with you into one persona, fine. Not my loss.
I didn't think you understood what I was asking, no matter, I won't bother to ask again.
Have you taken a screen shot of your email out box yet?
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As I said earlier. I've already figured out that the Earth is not a globe. If you stick rigidly to that then you really have no need to pursue anything on here. Obviously I'm not telling you to go, I'm merely saying that being on a flat Earth forum arguing for your globe and all of the mainstream science that gets bandied about, is a complete and utter waste of your leisure time, unless your goal is to make sure alternate Earth theories and anti mainstream science theories are ridiculed and frowned upon.
Not really, I learn something new every time I come here, I happen to like learning new things and listening to the way other people think. My choice.
When I see someone who misunderstands the world I like to find out why. Some are completely insane, some are clever and thoughtful, some have just been brainwashed by dumb youtube videos.
Science advances by being questioned, over and over again, there isn't anything in accepted mainstream science that hasn't stood the test, every thing is up for grabs all the time, but if you wish to change it, then you have to expect your changes must be put to the test. Flat Earth fails on every test you could imagine. Globe passes every test.
Well that, and we have live streamed pictures of the globe, from multiple directions and distances. No, it's not flat.
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As I said earlier. I've already figured out that the Earth is not a globe. If you stick rigidly to that then you really have no need to pursue anything on here. Obviously I'm not telling you to go, I'm merely saying that being on a flat Earth forum arguing for your globe and all of the mainstream science that gets bandied about, is a complete and utter waste of your leisure time, unless your goal is to make sure alternate Earth theories and anti mainstream science theories are ridiculed and frowned upon.
Not really, I learn something new every time I come here, I happen to like learning new things and listening to the way other people think. My choice.
When I see someone who misunderstands the world I like to find out why. Some are completely insane, some are clever and thoughtful, some have just been brainwashed by dumb youtube videos.
Science advances by being questioned, over and over again, there isn't anything in accepted mainstream science that hasn't stood the test, every thing is up for grabs all the time, but if you wish to change it, then you have to expect your changes must be put to the test. Flat Earth fails on every test you could imagine. Globe passes every test.
Well that, and we have live streamed pictures of the globe, from multiple directions and distances. No, it's not flat.
Ok that's fair enough. We have nothing we can add to each other. You are rigid on your Earth and it's as clear as day you've made a mug out of me with my emailed dome pictures and video. It'll never happen again.
From this point on Geoff, I'm going to leave you to your own devices. Argue to your hearts content with those who will bother. I'm not wasting another second expending energy typing to you.
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You are rigid on your Earth and it's as clear as day you've made a mug out of me with my emailed dome pictures and video.
Clearly you are a massive liar. You don't have any dome pictures or video, it's all just bullshit.
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You are rigid on your Earth and it's as clear as day you've made a mug out of me with my emailed dome pictures and video.
Clearly you are a massive liar. You don't have any dome pictures or video, it's all just bullshit.
Calm down or you'll be ignored. Just calm down.
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From this point on Geoff, I'm going to leave you to your own devices. Argue to your hearts content with those who will bother. I'm not wasting another second expending energy typing to you.
If I ever see or hear from this Geoff character, I'll pass the message on, that scepti doesn't want to argue anymore. I'm not sure I do either.
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From this point on Geoff, I'm going to leave you to your own devices. Argue to your hearts content with those who will bother. I'm not wasting another second expending energy typing to you.
If I ever see or hear from this Geoff character, I'll pass the message on, that scepti doesn't want to argue anymore. I'm not sure I do either.
He was a forum user called ausGeoff. Sometime back he stopped posting. Poe-pa Legba has tricked many into believing Rabinoz is ausGeoff because of that.
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Scepti, I have two questions.
What would someone need to prove to be absolutely sure that the round earth is false?
What would someone need to prove to be absolutely sure that the flat earth is false?
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Scepti, I have two questions.
What would someone need to prove to be absolutely sure that the round earth is false?
Water level is a perfectly good stating point for proof.
What would someone need to prove to be absolutely sure that the flat earth is false?
It depends. You see, there are many versions of what is construed as a flat earth.
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Water level is a perfectly good stating point for proof.
No it isn't.
Let's say we had a ball with the radius of earth (around 6000km) and we covered the entire surface with 100m of water. If the water is not disturbed by any outside forces, then the top part of the water will be relatively level to the center of the ball (6100m). A man looking at the water would see level water, and that is what we expect to see when we can only see a fraction of it. A small fraction indeed.
I'm having trouble writing this because I've had to do this so many times might as well put up a whole webpage debunking these "proofs". Please tell me if you want that webpage to exist.
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Water level is a perfectly good stating point for proof.
No it isn't.
Let's say we had a ball with the radius of earth (around 6000km) and we covered the entire surface with 100m of water. If the water is not disturbed by any outside forces, then the top part of the water will be relatively level to the center of the ball (6100m). A man looking at the water would see level water, and that is what we expect to see when we can only see a fraction of it. A small fraction indeed.
I'm having trouble writing this because I've had to do this so many times might as well put up a whole webpage debunking these "proofs". Please tell me if you want that webpage to exist.
You need to change your name. You've called yourself MrDebunk and you've never managed to debunk anything.
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What about water is proof?
Also, I like how you resigned to give any way of debunking your theory. What about if someone sent something up out of the atmospheare? Would that debunk it?
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What about water is proof?
Also, I like how you resigned to give any way of debunking your theory. What about if someone sent something up out of the atmospheare? Would that debunk it?
It can't be done. You live in a cocoon. You don't get out of it.
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What about water is proof?
Also, I like how you resigned to give any way of debunking your theory. What about if someone sent something up out of the atmospheare? Would that debunk it?
It can't be done. You live in a cocoon. You don't get out of it.
No. I've seen a cocoon, and I definitely don't live in one
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What about water is proof?
Also, I like how you resigned to give any way of debunking your theory. What about if someone sent something up out of the atmospheare? Would that debunk it?
It can't be done. You live in a cocoon. You don't get out of it.
No. I've seen a cocoon, and I definitely don't live in one
Maybe you need to think of another cocoon.
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What about water is proof?
Also, I like how you resigned to give any way of debunking your theory. What about if someone sent something up out of the atmospheare? Would that debunk it?
It can't be done. You live in a cocoon. You don't get out of it.
No. I've seen a cocoon, and I definitely don't live in one
Maybe you need to think of another cocoon.
Regardless, how do you know we live in a "cocoon" Have you gone up and touched it?
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What about water is proof?
Also, I like how you resigned to give any way of debunking your theory. What about if someone sent something up out of the atmospheare? Would that debunk it?
It can't be done. You live in a cocoon. You don't get out of it.
Evidence? Not that the lack evidence is any hindrance to you.
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This ship has kind of sailed on from where I was last.
All I am saying is, if there are multiple videos of a highly publicized and witnessed launch, then simply saying it isn't real (with no evidence to suggest it wasn't), is not a very strong set of legs to stand on. I am not asking you to "swallow my words", what I believe or not is irrelevant to a space launch!
By tacky and over the top, I was referring to the SpaceX broadcast/coverage of the launch. I agree it was very over dramatized....then again is that very surprising for a TV broadcast?
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This ship has kind of sailed on from where I was last.
All I am saying is, if there are multiple videos of a highly publicized and witnessed launch, then simply saying it isn't real (with no evidence to suggest it wasn't), is not a very strong set of legs to stand on. I am not asking you to "swallow my words", what I believe or not is irrelevant to a space launch!
By tacky and over the top, I was referring to the SpaceX broadcast/coverage of the launch. I agree it was very over dramatized....then again is that very surprising for a TV broadcast?
The fact that people can believe a rocket can go into so called edge of atmosphere then separate, to then fall back down and land on barges or in Florida, as we are told and the way they show it. Seriously...I mean, seriously it shouldn't need anything more than a semblance of common sense to see this absolute utter dross for what it is.
The silly woo wooing actors and actresses, as well as the canned screaming, is laughable as much as it's pathetic.
The brainwashing is critical. It's shockingly easy for them to achieve because they gear up the supposed intelligent people by feeding them sci-fi excitement like star trek and star wars, then add in shows like 'the big bang theory' with supposed MIT type genius characters to carry off a lot of the bullshit - and bingo, the stage is set for a life time of follow up brainwashing.
To be honest I should really stop typing. I know it's a waste of time. I know that you people appear every time things start to heat up with free thinkers adding in a decent amount of wording.
The truth is, that's what you people want. That's your goal. Your goal is to discourage people from thinking for themselves by hook or by crook, with crook being the operative word with some of you.
If you can't get away with the ridicule then play the good guy and reel in the free thinkers before you all go into mass ridicule attempts.
What you fail to grasp is the very fact that ordinary people read these forums. They see what your games are. They will be sat there thinking without peer pressure. And they will come to the conclusion that all the stuff you people tout as being legit, is anything but.
If you feel that this is a sly dig. It is. It is, because you're a classic disinfo merchant like the other posse of new posters that invade.
"Hi I'm new and I'm tied between flat and round. The thing is, I don't see how blah blah blah blah blah blah fits in with a flat Earth."
This is the clap trap that's spewed all of the time.
Either learn to think and have a go at using your very own logic and common sense or talk to your peers, because I'm getting bored with you people, very quickly.
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This ship has kind of sailed on from where I was last.
All I am saying is, if there are multiple videos of a highly publicized and witnessed launch, then simply saying it isn't real (with no evidence to suggest it wasn't), is not a very strong set of legs to stand on. I am not asking you to "swallow my words", what I believe or not is irrelevant to a space launch!
By tacky and over the top, I was referring to the SpaceX broadcast/coverage of the launch. I agree it was very over dramatized....then again is that very surprising for a TV broadcast?
The fact that people can believe a rocket can go into so called edge of atmosphere then separate, to then fall back down and land on barges or in Florida, as we are told and the way they show it. Seriously...I mean, seriously it shouldn't need anything more than a semblance of common sense to see this absolute utter dross for what it is.
The silly woo wooing actors and actresses, as well as the canned screaming, is laughable as much as it's pathetic.
The brainwashing is critical. It's shockingly easy for them to achieve because they gear up the supposed intelligent people by feeding them sci-fi excitement like star trek and star wars, then add in shows like 'the big bang theory' with supposed MIT type genius characters to carry off a lot of the bullshit - and bingo, the stage is set for a life time of follow up brainwashing.
To be honest I should really stop typing. I know it's a waste of time. I know that you people appear every time things start to heat up with free thinkers adding in a decent amount of wording.
The truth is, that's what you people want. That's your goal. Your goal is to discourage people from thinking for themselves by hook or by crook, with crook being the operative word with some of you.
If you can't get away with the ridicule then play the good guy and reel in the free thinkers before you all go into mass ridicule attempts.
What you fail to grasp is the very fact that ordinary people read these forums. They see what your games are. They will be sat there thinking without peer pressure. And they will come to the conclusion that all the stuff you people tout as being legit, is anything but.
If you feel that this is a sly dig. It is. It is, because you're a classic disinfo merchant like the other posse of new posters that invade.
"Hi I'm new and I'm tied between flat and round. The thing is, I don't see how blah blah blah blah blah blah fits in with a flat Earth."
This is the clap trap that's spewed all of the time.
Either learn to think and have a go at using your very own logic and common sense or talk to your peers, because I'm getting bored with you people, very quickly.
Have you ever considered that you may be wrong? Especially since you can't come up with any proof or evidence to support your claims about space and the atmosphere?
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Have you ever considered that you may be wrong? Especially since you can't come up with any proof or evidence to support your claims about space and the atmosphere?
Common sense is all the proof you need for this kind of absolute gunk.
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Did you ever think that you might have it all wrong? How would you prove to me that you are correct? I mean real proof. None of your guesswork.
I know you're Geoff. Other's know you're Geoff. You changed tactics for whatever reasons and yet you still end up at square one.
Now I'm confused! Papa calls me Geoff all the time and I too have no idea what he is (was) talking about.
There was a Geoff and an ausGeoff who haven't been seen around for a long time.
I guess Sceppy, like Papa, has lost all contact with reality.
When you believe in expandable molecules, ultra-high vacuum but not space, pressure causing weight, etc, etc it looks very likely!
Especially with
First of all, not many sibscribe to it. I do and one or two others on here.
The dome is ICE, made up of frozen helium, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc depending on positition in the natural build of it.
It covers all the solid ground we exist on to a unknown height. Maybe 50 miles high as a wild guess.
;D The dome at 50 miles. ;D
And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
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Did you ever think that you might have it all wrong? How would you prove to me that you are correct? I mean real proof. None of your guesswork.
I know you're Geoff. Other's know you're Geoff. You changed tactics for whatever reasons and yet you still end up at square one.
Now I'm confused! Papa calls me Geoff all the time and I too have no idea what he is (was) talking about.
There was a Geoff and an ausGeoff who haven't been seen around for a long time.
I guess Sceppy, like Papa, has lost all contact with reality.
When you believe in expandable molecules, ultra-high vacuum but not space, pressure causing weight, etc, etc it looks very likely!
Especially with
First of all, not many sibscribe to it. I do and one or two others on here.
The dome is ICE, made up of frozen helium, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc depending on positition in the natural build of it.
It covers all the solid ground we exist on to a unknown height. Maybe 50 miles high as a wild guess.
;D The dome at 50 miles. ;D
And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
No need to plead, you're not exactly on trial. Just accept that some people know what's going on and then carry on feeding your bullshit to anyone who you can ensure doesn't get caught up into the free thinking world.
I'll do my best to help them to think for themselves.
You appear to sleep well at night but maybe I have you wrong. Maybe you don't sleep well but are compelled to keep pushing the shit because your livelihood depends on it or is subsidised by it.
Carry on.
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*Sigh.
I think cynicism has got the best of you Sceptimatic.
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And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
No need to plead, you're not exactly on trial. Just accept that some people know what's going on and then carry on feeding your bullshit to anyone who you can ensure doesn't get caught up into the free thinking world.
I'll do my best to help them to think for themselves.
You appear to sleep well at night but maybe I have you wrong. Maybe you don't sleep well but are compelled to keep pushing the shit because your livelihood depends on it or is subsidised by it.
Carry on.
You are mistaking his incredulity for pleading, he is saying that you are completely nuts.
If anyone is on trial here it's your lack of logic generally and failure to support with evidence, any of the ideas that you blindly put forward.
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And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
No need to plead, you're not exactly on trial. Just accept that some people know what's going on and then carry on feeding your bullshit to anyone who you can ensure doesn't get caught up into the free thinking world.
I'll do my best to help them to think for themselves.
You appear to sleep well at night but maybe I have you wrong. Maybe you don't sleep well but are compelled to keep pushing the shit because your livelihood depends on it or is subsidised by it.
Carry on.
You are mistaking his incredulity for pleading, he is saying that you are completely nuts.
If anyone is on trial here it's your lack of logic generally and failure to support with evidence, any of the ideas that you blindly put forward.
Rayzbinoz, chill out. You had your fun at my expense with the stuff I sent you. You will never have that privilege again.
I now know exactly what you are, Geoff.
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Common sense is all the proof you need for this kind of absolute gunk.
You see my uncertainty is when I see you state absolute incorrect statements as facts. You state with a certainty the world is flat, just like you say with a certainty I am Beethoven(I think, you have said with a fact I was two members don't remember the other)..the former I cannot say as an absolute witnessed fact, the latter I can as I only have my one user name. Yet you say both as an absolute fact, no point in changing your mind.
Or the fact I am told as an absolute fact that rockets do not work in a vacuum even though I have witnessed numerous scale tests in vacuums. Have even witnessed a few full sized function test, though this was not in a vacuum.
Or the nuclear debates I have had with you, though I cannot say as a 100 percent fact as I did not go into the chambers obviously, but I think I could say about 99 percent.
This dead on no one change my mind bias is exactly what you speak against, so you are being hypocritical. Also, when i see you stating one "fact" that I know as false.. how am I suppose to believe something else you say?
I really do like your scepticism...really do. I 100 percent agree with it. Honestly I will read some of your post and it gets me questioning things and makes me do a quick look around. That is a very good thing in my opinion.
Your lies I do not like, as I said it takes away your credibility, and that would suck if you truly had an honest point, someone might glance over it for that reason which I would not want. That is as far as I am going on the lying subject.
My main purpose is I have seen you state obvious un truths as truths because you are so dead set on a certain reality. Isn't that exactly what people who believe mainstream like a religion act like? Have you thought that maybe you have fallen victim to the same devil, just with a different name?
Also you get mad and call people shills and whatnot when they question flat earth or say the evidence doesn't match well. Ever think that the material could be the issue and not the person?
Let's say I take my black fan I am looking at right now, I say it is powered by black voodoo magic. That is would turns the blades. So people explain to me how the motor works and blah blah blah. Yet instead I tell them they are hiding the truth, paid shills and what not. Should I hate the people, or the fact my theory is lacking any creditability?
Just for a tid bit, I have no problem admitting it. The other night, it was a full moon, clearest night I have seen in some time. I was sitting next to my pool, water fall off, dead quiet and I am just looking at the moon. Staring it down...just me a beer and the moon. I really could understand why people would buy into the flat theory, one or those nights the moon just looked like a stage prop, 2 dimensional. I even started to trail off into thoughts of what if the earth was flat, what ifs...what ifs, trying to run logic and feasibility.
I think there are many things hidden, and I truly do not believe things are the way they are said to be. However, I think the real truth is somewhere in between all of this, or maybe even somewhere way off in left field. My point to you, is you might miss the truth(I can say for an almost certainty you will) if you stay so closed minded while calling it open. As I said, same devil, different name.
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Also one more thing....let's get proactive. You have the open minded part down, now let's actually look instead of assume. Let's do experiments and tests. Why do you think I put the vacuum experiment out in public. I don't need to see a rocket in a vacuum, I already know he reality. However, many people do not apparently. I was trying to start a trend... Let's start putting our money where the mouth is.
Less talk, more action. So if you want to say the earth is flat, rockets don't work as advertised and so on...then you can follow by here is why I say this and not be followed by speculation.
This is what my dream was for this place...a place of action, I will pull way more than my fair share of weight, and use every resource I have available to do what is needed. I want TRUTH not hearsay or stupidity. Thus why i was butt hurt for a little bit when I realized the current reality here. But it could change!!
Simple fact, I can absolutely handle my reality changing and would be gung ho to see where it goes....can you handle a reality change?
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Scepti is full of projection. He's just projecting all of his shortcomings and failings onto everyone/everything else. He's totally full of shit and anyone with a singular firing neuron can see it.
His latest bullshit story about sending 'emails' to rayzor of his 'Ice Dome model' is just the latest of his incredibly long list of public gaffes and lies. From holding 13 academic qualifications, to being an inventor, a patent holder, to living in a mansion and owning expensive cars, scepti is very obviously fond of spinning a yarn... too bad it's unraveling for him (though, in truth, I doubt anyone actually believed a word he has posted on this forum).
It's OK scepti, you can come clean now. We all know you're a fucking liar; I think you'll feel better if you just admit it publicly and get it off your chest. I know how hard it can be to remember all the lies you've told; much easier just to fess up and cop the backlash than continue with your bullshit stories.
Honestly, I wouldn't even really care about your lies if it weren't for the fact you're just a monumental hypocrite. I bet a good 80% of your posts are just sanctimonious whining about 'the elite' and 'the lies they tell' and how you're a 'free-thinker' and we're all just 'sheep who can't think for ourselves'. Seriously, shut the fuck up you daft lying clown. You ranting about other people lying is pot calling the kettle black at best.
Slightly OT I know, I'm sorry, but this is just turning into another scepti merry-go-round thread where he asserts this, that and the other and, when asks to back any of it up, he just leads everyone in a circular 'debate'.
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And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
No need to plead, you're not exactly on trial. Just accept that some people know what's going on and then carry on feeding your bullshit to anyone who you can ensure doesn't get caught up into the free thinking world.
I'll do my best to help them to think for themselves.
You appear to sleep well at night but maybe I have you wrong. Maybe you don't sleep well but are compelled to keep pushing the shit because your livelihood depends on it or is subsidised by it.
Carry on.
You are mistaking his incredulity for pleading, he is saying that you are completely nuts.
If anyone is on trial here it's your lack of logic generally and failure to support with evidence, any of the ideas that you blindly put forward.
Rayzbinoz, chill out. You had your fun at my expense with the stuff I sent you. You will never have that privilege again.
I now know exactly what you are, Geoff.
You sent me nothing, I asked several times for you to post a screen snapshot of you email outbox as proof, and you haven't that tells me and everyone else that you lied, and you continue to lie.
I was prepared to let it go, so long as you owned up, but now, here you are pretending to have done something you haven't.
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Scepti's going to throw another one of his tantrums soon. He might even have one of his "great purges" where he deletes half is posts.
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The fact that people can believe a rocket can go into so called edge of atmosphere then separate, to then fall back down and land on barges or in Florida, as we are told and the way they show it. Seriously...I mean, seriously it shouldn't need anything more than a semblance of common sense to see this absolute utter dross for what it is.
Scepti, have you ever run a marathon? Of course you haven't and neither has anyone else. They're all fake. The fact that people can believe that someone can run 26.2 miles, in less than 2 and a half hours no less... I mean, seriously it shouldn't need anything more than a semblance of common sense to see this absolute utter dross for what it is.
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You see my uncertainty is when I see you state absolute incorrect statements as facts.
Such as?
You state with a certainty the world is flat,
No I don't. I push an alternate theory of my Earth that includes it being FLATTISH.
just like you say with a certainty I am Beethoven
No I didn't so stop telling lies.
(I think, you have said with a fact I was two members don't remember the other)..the former I cannot say as an absolute witnessed fact, the latter I can as I only have my one user name. Yet you say both as an absolute fact, no point in changing your mind.
I thought you were a girl because you went on like a girl.
Or the fact I am told as an absolute fact that rockets do not work in a vacuum even though I have witnessed numerous scale tests in vacuums.
You've witnessed nothing in a vacuum of any scale rocket tests. You are a liar.
Have even witnessed a few full sized function test, though this was not in a vacuum.
Did you witness this is space or in atmosphere?
Or the nuclear debates I have had with you, though I cannot say as a 100 percent fact as I did not go into the chambers obviously, but I think I could say about 99 percent.
I can say 99.9% that they do not exist. I can't say 100% because I've never seen fissioning in chambers or nuclear bomb detonations. I just know in my mind that they're fantasy.
This dead on no one change my mind bias is exactly what you speak against, so you are being hypocritical.
We are all hypocrites in many ways. Some admit it and some blatantly lie about being one.
Also, when i see you stating one "fact" that I know as false.. how am I suppose to believe something else you say?
Nobody is asking you to believe anything. It's your choice to accept of believe. I just give my views against yours. You call me a liar and I call you one. It's tit for tat.
The real purpose should actually be about learning the reality of stuff. You refuse to and I continue to look deeply into it all to garner truth's.
I really do like your scepticism...really do. I 100 percent agree with it.
No you don't. You are dead set against it all and it shows like a massive blind cobblers sore, throbbing thumb.
Honestly I will read some of your post and it gets me questioning things and makes me do a quick look around. That is a very good thing in my opinion.
My posts give you the opportunity to stand with your global friends to have a go at me and others. When you fail to gain the required bites, you twist it all into the good guy image.
You fool nobody but your own.
Your lies I do not like, as I said it takes away your credibility, and that would suck if you truly had an honest point, someone might glance over it for that reason which I would not want.
Calling me a lair does not make me a liar, so what you say is irrelevant.
That is as far as I am going on the lying subject.
There's not really much further you can go. Calling people a liar is calling people a liar, no matter how many words you use top get it across.
Liars generally try to call others liars to take away the lies they themselves spew. Think about that.
My main purpose is I have seen you state obvious un truths as truths because you are so dead set on a certain reality.
No you haven't. You think you've seen me state untruth's because your severe indoctrinated mind does not marry up with what I said.
Isn't that exactly what people who believe mainstream like a religion act like?
I'm not religious so I can't really comment on it. I'm more in the agnostic camp I suppose. that's the last I'll mention on it in this topic.
Have you thought that maybe you have fallen victim to the same devil, just with a different name?
I could have done if I hadn't sifted through it all to see the complete and utter bullshit spewed by the actors and actresses that are employed to dupe the every gullible public.
Also you get mad and call people shills and whatnot when they question flat earth or say the evidence doesn't match well.
Interpret anything I say in any manner you wish. I call it how I see it and that won't change.
Ever think that the material could be the issue and not the person?
In certain circumstances, yes. I understand that some people are merely following the higher peer/s.
Let's say I take my black fan I am looking at right now, I say it is powered by black voodoo magic. That is would turns the blades. So people explain to me how the motor works and blah blah blah. Yet instead I tell them they are hiding the truth, paid shills and what not. Should I hate the people, or the fact my theory is lacking any creditability?
Your black fan is your globe and it's magical properties. People are trying to explain to you that your globe is not real and the reality is a stationary Earth that is not a globe we walk UPON.
Just for a tid bit, I have no problem admitting it. The other night, it was a full moon, clearest night I have seen in some time. I was sitting next to my pool, water fall off, dead quiet and I am just looking at the moon. Staring it down...just me a beer and the moon. I really could understand why people would buy into the flat theory, one or those nights the moon just looked like a stage prop, 2 dimensional. I even started to trail off into thoughts of what if the earth was flat, what ifs...what ifs, trying to run logic and feasibility.
And yet you go absolutely nuts to push everything global. You seem scared to go against the mass opinion of others on here.
If you were really sceptical in any way then you'd be seriously looking into it all and seeing the globe as an issue. You don't because you're a game player.
I think there are many things hidden, and I truly do not believe things are the way they are said to be.
So why are you going to extremes to push mainstream bullshit?
However, I think the real truth is somewhere in between all of this, or maybe even somewhere way off in left field.
That's probably more to the point in truthful thinking.
My point to you, is you might miss the truth(I can say for an almost certainty you will) if you stay so closed minded while calling it open. As I said, same devil, different name.
You forget that I was once a global Earth, gravity and space thinker. I accepted all of the clap trap spewed out, once upon a time. I was closed minded then. I gave the weird looks to the people who gave out the weird scenarios.
I was even arguing on a football forum once and I argued about nuclear power being ultra dangerous and hoping a nuke landed 100 feet away from me if a nuclear war started.
I even use to wonder if we'd get hit by a meteor or a chunk of metal from a satellite.
I just accepted it all because I was closed minded. I had no reason to disbelieve space scientists or nuclear boffins or heroic brave astronauts.
I didn't just decide to go against anything. I took it all one step at a time.
I came to this forum with a stationary globe in mind, because that's where I was at. I was at infant level of sifting through stuff.
I started to see patterns with people when arguing certain stuff. The ridicule by the posse of people for merely mentioning a tiny change to their indoctrinated model.
So no, I'm not closed minded. I used to be. I am now open minded for the right people. I am closed minded towards a spinning globe and much of the crap that keeps it alive in fantasy land. The reason for this is quite simple. It's because I need to find reality and I cannot find it among global bullshit.
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Also one more thing....let's get proactive. You have the open minded part down, now let's actually look instead of assume. Let's do experiments and tests. Why do you think I put the vacuum experiment out in public. I don't need to see a rocket in a vacuum, I already know he reality. However, many people do not apparently. I was trying to start a trend... Let's start putting our money where the mouth is.
Less talk, more action. So if you want to say the earth is flat, rockets don't work as advertised and so on...then you can follow by here is why I say this and not be followed by speculation.
This is what my dream was for this place...a place of action, I will pull way more than my fair share of weight, and use every resource I have available to do what is needed. I want TRUTH not hearsay or stupidity. Thus why i was butt hurt for a little bit when I realized the current reality here. But it could change!!
Simple fact, I can absolutely handle my reality changing and would be gung ho to see where it goes....can you handle a reality change?
Let's see you show your questioning mind and let's do some experiments. You have the tools you say, so let's see you video experiments that I put to you. Let's see if you are willing to do what sokarul wasn't.
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Also one more thing....let's get proactive. You have the open minded part down, now let's actually look instead of assume. Let's do experiments and tests. Why do you think I put the vacuum experiment out in public. I don't need to see a rocket in a vacuum, I already know he reality. However, many people do not apparently. I was trying to start a trend... Let's start putting our money where the mouth is.
Less talk, more action. So if you want to say the earth is flat, rockets don't work as advertised and so on...then you can follow by here is why I say this and not be followed by speculation.
This is what my dream was for this place...a place of action, I will pull way more than my fair share of weight, and use every resource I have available to do what is needed. I want TRUTH not hearsay or stupidity. Thus why i was butt hurt for a little bit when I realized the current reality here. But it could change!!
Simple fact, I can absolutely handle my reality changing and would be gung ho to see where it goes....can you handle a reality change?
Let's see you show your questioning mind and let's do some experiments. You have the tools you say, so let's see you video experiments that I put to you. Let's see if you are willing to do what sokarul wasn't.
I did my experiment 3 times. You wouldn't accept it because the results weren't what you expected.
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And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
No need to plead, you're not exactly on trial. Just accept that some people know what's going on and then carry on feeding your bullshit to anyone who you can ensure doesn't get caught up into the free thinking world.
I'll do my best to help them to think for themselves.
You appear to sleep well at night but maybe I have you wrong. Maybe you don't sleep well but are compelled to keep pushing the shit because your livelihood depends on it or is subsidised by it.
Carry on.
You are mistaking his incredulity for pleading, he is saying that you are completely nuts.
If anyone is on trial here it's your lack of logic generally and failure to support with evidence, any of the ideas that you blindly put forward.
Rayzbinoz, chill out. You had your fun at my expense with the stuff I sent you. You will never have that privilege again.
I now know exactly what you are, Geoff.
You sent me nothing, I asked several times for you to post a screen snapshot of you email outbox as proof, and you haven't that tells me and everyone else that you lied, and you continue to lie.
I was prepared to let it go, so long as you owned up, but now, here you are pretending to have done something you haven't.
For what you did, you lost all my respect. Now go away and don't bother me again in this name. Use your other names if you want to talk with me from now on.
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And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
No need to plead, you're not exactly on trial. Just accept that some people know what's going on and then carry on feeding your bullshit to anyone who you can ensure doesn't get caught up into the free thinking world.
I'll do my best to help them to think for themselves.
You appear to sleep well at night but maybe I have you wrong. Maybe you don't sleep well but are compelled to keep pushing the shit because your livelihood depends on it or is subsidised by it.
Carry on.
You are mistaking his incredulity for pleading, he is saying that you are completely nuts.
If anyone is on trial here it's your lack of logic generally and failure to support with evidence, any of the ideas that you blindly put forward.
Rayzbinoz, chill out. You had your fun at my expense with the stuff I sent you. You will never have that privilege again.
I now know exactly what you are, Geoff.
You sent me nothing, I asked several times for you to post a screen snapshot of you email outbox as proof, and you haven't that tells me and everyone else that you lied, and you continue to lie.
I was prepared to let it go, so long as you owned up, but now, here you are pretending to have done something you haven't.
For what you did, you lost all my respect. Now go away and don't bother me again in this name. Use your other names if you want to talk with me from now on.
By lying repeatedly, you showed that you have no respect for anyone on this forum, you could have so easily gained some respect by being honest. Too late now.
Some things in life are hard to gain and easy to lose, such as trust and respect, you, after your actions and words, no longer have either.
Put me on ignore if you want, I don't post under any other names.
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For what you did, you lost all my respect. Now go away and don't bother me again in this name. Use your other names if you want to talk with me from now on.
If lying wasn't bad enough, here you are trying to lay the blame of this at the feet of rayzor. That is low. Every 'free-thinker' having seen this unfold will think so too. This has been your biggest public blunder yet which says a lot, frankly, because you set the bar so high previously.
Well, at least we found one way in which you actually deliver on something.
Hindsight is always twenty-twenty, sure, but you really fucked this one up. Far better to have bullshitted that we were all unworthy to behold your amazing Ice DomeTM model either in pictures or video than to claim such pictures/videos exist and that you would send them to people privately (but only if they never divulged what was sent on this forum... I wonder why!). Oh well. The silver lining here scepti is that, if any of the free-thinkers who peruse this forum were on the fence about you being completely full of shit, they now no longer have any doubt. Why is that a good thing, you ask? Well, it's taken them to a new level of awareness see, the thing you most crave for everyone!
Poor scepti, that Ice DomeTM really is smashing down all around you.
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Alright if anyone saw the launch and landing and got stills and or video, please post them here.
Do not fret...some sock puppet will be on here with more photoshopped or CGI bull shit shortly...
Just so you know I actually saw the launch and landing in real life. Very spectacular. Was about 5 miles away from the landing pad and in my footage when the engine was cutting off I saw a silhouette of what appeared to be a Falcon 9 first stage. If it's fake, how do you explain that?
Cool
Story
bro
What footage? How does anyone know you took the footage? You sound like shill. If you had footage up front, why did you not post it up front?
Immediate answer that comes to my mind? You do not have any footage.
Yes I have footage you amazingly bright and delightful person. But it's so amateur (My handlers do not trust me enough to not inadvertently spill the beans, as this crap is obviously CGI) I'll probably never upload it in its video form, the most I'll probably do is put up some stills, if that...I thought it would be cool to get my ass pocketing sticky gauge group of friends in some form of freakish love fest over fake footage, easily replicated by most modern computer programs found at home. Hoping they might have some CGI a little higher in quality.
Fixed all those quotes for you. And brought the topic back on track. No need to thank me. Your welcome.
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You sound like shill.
That's going straight into my signature.
Bye bye!
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When you believe in expandable molecules, ultra-high vacuum but not space, pressure causing weight, etc, etc it looks very likely!
Especially with
First of all, not many sibscribe to it. I do and one or two others on here.
The dome is ICE, made up of frozen helium, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc depending on positition in the natural build of it.
It covers all the solid ground we exist on to a unknown height. Maybe 50 miles high as a wild guess.
;D The dome at 50 miles. ;D
And we are supposed to believe "your reality"?
No need to plead, you're not exactly on trial. Just accept that some people know what's going on and then carry on feeding your bullshit to anyone who you can ensure doesn't get caught up into the free thinking world.
I'll do my best to help them to think for themselves.
You appear to sleep well at night but maybe I have you wrong. Maybe you don't sleep well but are compelled to keep pushing the shit because your livelihood depends on it or is subsidised by it.
Carry on.
I'm not "pleading", just pointing out that someone who suggests a dome at 50 miles is hardly credible:
Look at these altitude records (from Flight Altitude Record (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_altitude_record)):
Unmanned gas balloon
During 2002 an ultra-thin-film balloon named BU60-1 made of polyethylene film 3.4 µm thick with a volume of 60,000 m³ was launched from Sanriku Balloon Center at Ofunato City, Iwate in Japan at 6:35 on May 23, 2002. The balloon ascended at a speed of 260 m per minute and successfully reached the altitude of 53.0 km (173,900 ft).
Jet plane record
1977 August 31 123,520 ft (37,650 m) by A. Fedotov in Soviet Ye-266
Rocket plane
The highest altitude obtained by a manned aeroplane (launched from another aircraft) is 112,010 m (367,487 ft) by Brian Binnie in the Scaled Composites SpaceShipOne (powered by a Scaled Composite SD-010 engine with 18,000 pounds (8,200 kg) of thrust) on 4 October 2004 at Mojave, CA.
::) That's almost 70 miles - watch that dome! ::)
Cannon rounds
The current world-record for highest cannon projectile flight is held by Project HARP’s 16-inch space gun prototype, which fired a 180 kg Martlet 2 projectile to record height of 180 km (590,550 ft; 110 mi) in Yuma, Arizona, on November 18th, 1966. The projectile’s trajectory briefly sent it into space, making it the first cannon-fired projectile to exit the atmosphere.
I wonder how many of these breached your dome?
Yes, I know anything that doesn't fit your reality is a lie!
My criticism of your attitude is that you can claim as fact "The dome is ICE, made up of frozen helium, hydrogen, nitrogen, etc depending on positition in the natural build of it." with absolutely no evidence. You don't have any evicence for your hypotheses about weight, denspressure or "Laws of Motion" - you just state your ideas as fact!
It reminds me of: I Reject Your Reality And Substitute My Own!
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You see my uncertainty is when I see you state absolute incorrect statements as facts.
Such as?
Accusing me of being people I am not, calling me a liar about something I have witnessed or delt with because it disagrees with what you "think" is right.
just like you say with a certainty I am Beethoven
No I didn't so stop telling lies.
You accuse me of being other people all the time...here is just one example.
It's time to change names. You'll have to retire Babyhighspeed and Pavarotti.
Start cranking up the posts for your other names.
Or the fact I am told as an absolute fact that rockets do not work in a vacuum even though I have witnessed numerous scale tests in vacuums.
You've witnessed nothing in a vacuum of any scale rocket tests. You are a liar.
Prime example of what I said previously. This is a fact, I apologize you do not like it. It used to be a large part of my business.
Have even witnessed a few full sized function test, though this was not in a vacuum.
Did you witness this is space or in atmosphere?
Atmosphere, I have never been in space. Couple hybrids and a few more liquid that was using a few components of mine. One hybrid was an absolute nightmare after a failure of a prototype that almost ended in a lawsuit when the schedule had to be set back.
Or the nuclear debates I have had with you, though I cannot say as a 100 percent fact as I did not go into the chambers obviously, but I think I could say about 99 percent.
I can say 99.9% that they do not exist. I can't say 100% because I've never seen fissioning in chambers or nuclear bomb detonations. I just know in my mind that they're fantasy.
I cannot agree..from my time there in college as explained before, too much of an intricate sham for no reason if it is one.
I really do like your scepticism...really do. I 100 percent agree with it.
No you don't. You are dead set against it all and it shows like a massive blind cobblers sore, throbbing thumb.
This is putting words in my mouth...I have stated many times I would be happy if my reality were shook up.
That is as far as I am going on the lying subject.
There's not really much further you can go. Calling people a liar is calling people a liar, no matter how many words you use top get it across.
Liars generally try to call others liars to take away the lies they themselves spew. Think about that.
I have only called proven things a lie. Such as all the evidence you were suppose to send and you didn't, and so forth. I do not call you a liar on differing opinions, I just ask for your reasoning and proof. As for calling someone a liar, you call the whole world and everyone in it a liar, so I feel this point does not work well in your favor.
My main purpose is I have seen you state obvious un truths as truths because you are so dead set on a certain reality.
No you haven't. You think you've seen me state untruth's because your severe indoctrinated mind does not marry up with what I said.
again putting thoughts in my head and assuming wrong.
Just for a tid bit, I have no problem admitting it. The other night, it was a full moon, clearest night I have seen in some time. I was sitting next to my pool, water fall off, dead quiet and I am just looking at the moon. Staring it down...just me a beer and the moon. I really could understand why people would buy into the flat theory, one or those nights the moon just looked like a stage prop, 2 dimensional. I even started to trail off into thoughts of what if the earth was flat, what ifs...what ifs, trying to run logic and feasibility.
And yet you go absolutely nuts to push everything global. You seem scared to go against the mass opinion of others on here.
If you were really sceptical in any way then you'd be seriously looking into it all and seeing the globe as an issue. You don't because you're a game player.
This is just ignorant baseless assumptions here. I only challenge things heavily if I have experienced them as a truth. Everything else I just ask for reasoning and evidence. I have spouted no consistent agenda and you know it.
I think there are many things hidden, and I truly do not believe things are the way they are said to be.
So why are you going to extremes to push mainstream bullshit?
I push nothing mainstream, I draw my own conclusions, sometimes it might line with mainstream, not everything is a lie. I know there are 100s of post of me agreeing or fighting for non mainstream things.
AND to your last part of that post. I know you are mad you were lied to about things. So am I..it pisses me off when I think about it. Peoples agenda and so forth. And yes the government doesn't give a rat's ass about its people. They will genocide, lie, commit war crimes, and anything else to fill their own pocket books or gain more power and control. This is a sad fact.
Though you are so jaded by this you are not thinking rationally. Sometimes if it walks , talks and acts like a duck sometimes it's just a duck. Another time it could be something trying very hard to pretend it's duck. That is when you must really look close, there is no perfect counterfit anything.
Point being, you have let your anger Jade your thinking, and now you have fallen victim to the same devil the sheep have fell to...it's just a different name.
I hope you hear this and really think about it.....you are BRAIN WASHED!! Please just take an honest look at yourself and your thinking.
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Simple fact, I can absolutely handle my reality changing and would be gung ho to see where it goes....can you handle a reality change?
As to the ending of my last post, you really need to look at this quote again and ask yourself this honestly. As I said, you are brainwashed, and it's trigger was anger.
Let's see you show your questioning mind and let's do some experiments. You have the tools you say, so let's see you video experiments that I put to you. Let's see if you are willing to do what sokarul wasn't.
Such as???
I did my experiment 3 times. You wouldn't accept it because the results weren't what you expected.
What experiment did you do??
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What experiment did you do??
I put a scale in a vacuum desiccator to disprove "denpressure". The vacuum was around -15 inches of mercury. No change in weight was observed. Sceptitank tried to say I didn't follow his procedure so it was null. In reality I didn't see a change of half the weight like he guessed. As you can see he still doesn't accept that denpressure was destroyed.
Back to spacx. I didn't see this video. Obviously the landing is "fake and gay"
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What experiment did you do??
I put a scale in a vacuum desiccator to disprove "denpressure". The vacuum was around -15 inches of mercury. No change in weight was observed. Sceptitank tried to say I didn't follow his procedure so it was null. In reality I didn't see a change of half the weight like he guessed. As you can see he still doesn't accept that denpressure was destroyed.
Back to spacx. I didn't see this video. Obviously the landing is "fake and gay"
Good video, thanks.
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What experiment did you do??
I put a scale in a vacuum desiccator to disprove "denpressure". The vacuum was around -15 inches of mercury. No change in weight was observed. Sceptitank tried to say I didn't follow his procedure so it was null. In reality I didn't see a change of half the weight like he guessed. As you can see he still doesn't accept that denpressure was destroyed.
I actually had to look that up to know what it was. That one is way too easy to debunk.
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You sound like shill.
That's going straight into my signature.
Bye bye!
Still no fucked up CGI you have to post, uh...What's the matter?
Your handlers do not trust you is what's the matter...
You shills really must tighten up your game.
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You sound like shill.
That's going straight into my signature.
Bye bye!
Still no fucked up CGI you have to post, uh...What's the matter?
Your handlers do not trust you is what's the matter...
You shills really must tighten up your game.
I don't have handlers. I'm not told what to post. If I want to debunk something, 80% of the time I will debunk it. The other 20% of the time I'm just frustrated on how people can be that stupid. Also, I'm not a shill. I don't have a paycheck from anyone like NASA or anyone for doing such thing. I'm sure you're some guy joking around laughing at your posts because you're a Poe.
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You sound like shill.
That's going straight into my signature.
Bye bye!
Still no fucked up CGI you have to post, uh...What's the matter?
Your handlers do not trust you is what's the matter...
You shills really must tighten up your game.
I don't have handlers. I'm not told what to post. If I want to debunk something, 80% of the time I will debunk it. The other 20% of the time I'm just frustrated on how people can be that stupid. Also, I'm not a shill. I don't have a paycheck from anyone like NASA or anyone for doing such thing. I'm sure you're some guy joking around laughing at your posts because you're a Poe.
Yeah, you got handlers.
And you are a liar.
You post an OP asking for video, when you supposedly have one.
Lulz!
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You sound like shill.
That's going straight into my signature.
Bye bye!
Still no fucked up CGI you have to post, uh...What's the matter?
Your handlers do not trust you is what's the matter...
You shills really must tighten up your game.
I don't have handlers. I'm not told what to post. If I want to debunk something, 80% of the time I will debunk it. The other 20% of the time I'm just frustrated on how people can be that stupid. Also, I'm not a shill. I don't have a paycheck from anyone like NASA or anyone for doing such thing. I'm sure you're some guy joking around laughing at your posts because you're a Poe.
Yeah, you got handlers.
And you are a liar.
You post an OP asking for video, when you supposedly have one.
Lulz!
My video wasn't that great. Also, people say the landing was fake, so I'm trying to find as much images, video as possible of the landing.
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You sound like shill.
That's going straight into my signature.
Bye bye!
Still no fucked up CGI you have to post, uh...What's the matter?
Your handlers do not trust you is what's the matter...
You shills really must tighten up your game.
I don't have handlers. I'm not told what to post. If I want to debunk something, 80% of the time I will debunk it. The other 20% of the time I'm just frustrated on how people can be that stupid. Also, I'm not a shill. I don't have a paycheck from anyone like NASA or anyone for doing such thing. I'm sure you're some guy joking around laughing at your posts because you're a Poe.
Yeah, you got handlers.
And you are a liar.
You post an OP asking for video, when you supposedly have one.
Lulz!
My video wasn't that great. Also, people say the landing was fake, so I'm trying to find as much images, video as possible of the landing.
Yeah...
Your video is not good enough CGI?
Or there is none.
Either way, your posting skills and course of thought in composing what was supposed to be an OP searching for non-existent live action of a non-existent landing are extremely shoddy.
If you had any footage whatsoever, you would have most certainly mentioned it in the OP.
You are a liar and a fraud.
You chiefly destroyed yourself and if you keep up such shoddy workmanship, pretty soon your ability to post at all will be terminated. Whoever is proofreading must really get a hold of things before you further take a massive dump all over these boards.
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Yes Mr. Muppet. Since everybody takes you so seriously, why don't we just let you come up with mathmatical proofs that rockets are impossible.
You don't believe in Newton's Laws, so I'd like to see you come up with some new laws that fit reality.
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Yes Mr. Muppet. Since everybody takes you so seriously, why don't we just let you come up with mathmatical proofs that rockets are impossible.
You don't believe in Newton's Laws, so I'd like to see you come up with some new laws that fit reality.
Who the fuck said rockets are impossible?
Who the fuck said I do not believe in the Laws of Thermodynamics?
I did not say that. You said that.
But I am going to head this off right now.
Nice try at thread derailment. The topic is the OP and the massive pile crap laid right at our feet. Debunk is failing at his job, getting a little lazy, and it is causing MASSIVE LULZ!!!
Had he video, it would have been mentioned in the OP. Normal people do that. But he didn't. Why?
Because he is suffering from entropy.
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
I get angry. No excuse.
But I am extremely frustrated at people who pretend they are something they are not.
These accounts are simply multiples who are so easy to identify for what they are with their behavior...they do not even put good effort into their work. Yet they get paid.
Regardless, I will cut out the profanity and substitute blank spaces...
This is not my forum and I will respect the owners' wishes. I do not even like to in some body else's house.
But back on topic.
Debunk was extremely disingenuous in his OP. I could loosely say the scientific equivalent of a faux political message, except that too would be a faux message, because Debunk is incapable of practicing science. He believes in science fiction, which is not all that bad a thing, but it is when it interferes in reality and when it becomes criminal in nature, such as accepting taxpayer funds under false pretenses.
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Papa Legba accusing us of making alts?
I am not an alt by the way.
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
I get angry. No excuse.
But I am extremely frustrated at people who pretend they are something they are not.
These accounts are simply multiples who are so easy to identify for what they are with their behavior...they do not even put good effort into their work. Yet they get paid.
Regardless, I will cut out the profanity and substitute blank spaces...
This is not my forum and I will respect the owners' wishes. I do not even like to in some body else's house.
But back on topic.
Debunk was extremely disingenuous in his OP. I could loosely say the scientific equivalent of a faux political message, except that too would be a faux message, because Debunk is incapable of practicing science. He believes in science fiction, which is not all that bad a thing, but it is when it interferes in reality and when it becomes criminal in nature, such as accepting taxpayer funds under false pretenses.
Nah m8. In fact I'm sure you're just a Poe and maybe (just maybe) you've tricked some flat earthers. I'd like to get to know the real you, even if you "totallackey" are real. I'm sure you're someone else, maybe even operated by the same person operating Papa Legba's account.
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
I get angry. No excuse.
But I am extremely frustrated at people who pretend they are something they are not.
These accounts are simply multiples who are so easy to identify for what they are with their behavior...they do not even put good effort into their work. Yet they get paid.
Regardless, I will cut out the profanity and substitute blank spaces...
This is not my forum and I will respect the owners' wishes. I do not even like to in some body else's house.
But back on topic.
Debunk was extremely disingenuous in his OP. I could loosely say the scientific equivalent of a faux political message, except that too would be a faux message, because Debunk is incapable of practicing science. He believes in science fiction, which is not all that bad a thing, but it is when it interferes in reality and when it becomes criminal in nature, such as accepting taxpayer funds under false pretenses.
Nah m8. In fact I'm sure you're just a Poe and maybe (just maybe) you've tricked some flat earthers. I'd like to get to know the real you, even if you "totallackey" are real. I'm sure you're someone else, maybe even operated by the same person operating Papa Legba's account.
No you wouldn't.
And I certainly don't want to know you, having proved yourself to be a liar and peddler of malarkey.
Have your handlers given you carte blanche to post your weak vid yet?
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
I get angry. No excuse.
But I am extremely frustrated at people who pretend they are something they are not.
These accounts are simply multiples who are so easy to identify for what they are with their behavior...they do not even put good effort into their work. Yet they get paid.
Regardless, I will cut out the profanity and substitute blank spaces...
This is not my forum and I will respect the owners' wishes. I do not even like to in some body else's house.
But back on topic.
Debunk was extremely disingenuous in his OP. I could loosely say the scientific equivalent of a faux political message, except that too would be a faux message, because Debunk is incapable of practicing science. He believes in science fiction, which is not all that bad a thing, but it is when it interferes in reality and when it becomes criminal in nature, such as accepting taxpayer funds under false pretenses.
Nah m8. In fact I'm sure you're just a Poe and maybe (just maybe) you've tricked some flat earthers. I'd like to get to know the real you, even if you "totallackey" are real. I'm sure you're someone else, maybe even operated by the same person operating Papa Legba's account.
No you wouldn't.
And I certainly don't want to know you, having proved yourself to be a liar and peddler of malarkey.
Have your handlers given you carte blanche to post your weak vid yet?
Don't live a fantasy. I just gotta get out the memory card, and put it into my computer, and I'm all set.
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You sound like shill.
That's going straight into my signature.
Bye bye!
Still no fucked up CGI you have to post, uh...What's the matter?
Your handlers do not trust you is what's the matter...
You shills really must tighten up your game.
I don't have handlers. I'm not told what to post. If I want to debunk something, 80% of the time I will debunk it. The other 20% of the time I'm just frustrated on how people can be that stupid. Also, I'm not a shill. I don't have a paycheck from anyone like NASA or anyone for doing such thing. I'm sure you're some guy joking around laughing at your posts because you're a Poe.
You need to talk to your boss. Not being paid for shilling?! What an outrage! I get paid $100 per hour and $1000 per word as a commission. I get a $100 bonus for every ten posts I make. And if you believe that I got ocean front property in Colorado I want to sell you. ;D
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You need to talk to your boss. Not being paid for shilling?! What an outrage! I get paid $100 per hour and $1000 per word as a commission. I get a $100 bonus for every ten posts I make. And if you believe that I got ocean front property in Colorado I want to sell you. ;D
How did you manage a deal like that? I only get paid on results and I seem to be ;D Totally Lacking ;D in them lately.
I think I'd better take it up with my "Shilling Union" rep. Maybe organise a stop-work meeting - think it would help?
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
I get angry. No excuse.
But I am extremely frustrated at people who pretend they are something they are not.
These accounts are simply multiples who are so easy to identify for what they are with their behavior...they do not even put good effort into their work. Yet they get paid.
Regardless, I will cut out the profanity and substitute blank spaces...
This is not my forum and I will respect the owners' wishes. I do not even like to in some body else's house.
But back on topic.
Debunk was extremely disingenuous in his OP. I could loosely say the scientific equivalent of a faux political message, except that too would be a faux message, because Debunk is incapable of practicing science. He believes in science fiction, which is not all that bad a thing, but it is when it interferes in reality and when it becomes criminal in nature, such as accepting taxpayer funds under false pretenses.
Nah m8. In fact I'm sure you're just a Poe and maybe (just maybe) you've tricked some flat earthers. I'd like to get to know the real you, even if you "totallackey" are real. I'm sure you're someone else, maybe even operated by the same person operating Papa Legba's account.
No you wouldn't.
And I certainly don't want to know you, having proved yourself to be a liar and peddler of malarkey.
Have your handlers given you carte blanche to post your weak vid yet?
Don't live a fantasy. I just gotta get out the memory card, and put it into my computer, and I'm all set.
Yeah, whatever...you would have done all that right off the bat, Kilroy. Had you had video.
Its okay, as we all know you have destroyed nothing but your own integrity by making such disingenuous claims. You are a joke.
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You need to talk to your boss. Not being paid for shilling?! What an outrage! I get paid $100 per hour and $1000 per word as a commission. I get a $100 bonus for every ten posts I make. And if you believe that I got ocean front property in Colorado I want to sell you. ;D
How did you manage a deal like that? I only get paid on results and I seem to be ;D Totally Lacking ;D in them lately.
They work by districts. I'm in the southern district and they pay me well.
I think I'd better take it up with my "Shilling Union" rep. Maybe organise a stop-work meeting - think it would help?
Probably. Check with your local laws. I don't know how it works in Australia.
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Topic once again is how a busted JREF shill fails to post supposed video HE took of the Spayyze sexxx launch and/or landing. Instead, he makes a thread asking others to post their fake videos they supposedly took.
Remarkably, no one took a personal video of the launch and/or landing and it took several days for someone to post one of someone else claiming to have...
Well, you get the picture...
Weak shills failing to earn a living...
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
I get angry. No excuse.
But I am extremely frustrated at people who pretend they are something they are not.
These accounts are simply multiples who are so easy to identify for what they are with their behavior...they do not even put good effort into their work. Yet they get paid.
Regardless, I will cut out the profanity and substitute blank spaces...
This is not my forum and I will respect the owners' wishes. I do not even like to in some body else's house.
But back on topic.
Debunk was extremely disingenuous in his OP. I could loosely say the scientific equivalent of a faux political message, except that too would be a faux message, because Debunk is incapable of practicing science. He believes in science fiction, which is not all that bad a thing, but it is when it interferes in reality and when it becomes criminal in nature, such as accepting taxpayer funds under false pretenses.
Nah m8. In fact I'm sure you're just a Poe and maybe (just maybe) you've tricked some flat earthers. I'd like to get to know the real you, even if you "totallackey" are real. I'm sure you're someone else, maybe even operated by the same person operating Papa Legba's account.
No you wouldn't.
And I certainly don't want to know you, having proved yourself to be a liar and peddler of malarkey.
Have your handlers given you carte blanche to post your weak vid yet?
Don't live a fantasy. I just gotta get out the memory card, and put it into my computer, and I'm all set.
Yeah, whatever...you would have done all that right off the bat, Kilroy. Had you had video.
Its okay, as we all know you have destroyed nothing but your own integrity by making such disingenuous claims. You are a joke.
You are the joke.
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Actually, I do make enough to make a living, in a real job.
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Bad post.
Perhaps you could polish your social charm a bit and cut down on the needless profanity. I know you can do it.
More Dr. Bunsen Honeydew and less Oscar the Grouch.
I've seen contributive posts from you, so I know you can do it.
I get angry. No excuse.
But I am extremely frustrated at people who pretend they are something they are not.
These accounts are simply multiples who are so easy to identify for what they are with their behavior...they do not even put good effort into their work. Yet they get paid.
Regardless, I will cut out the profanity and substitute blank spaces...
This is not my forum and I will respect the owners' wishes. I do not even like to in some body else's house.
But back on topic.
Debunk was extremely disingenuous in his OP. I could loosely say the scientific equivalent of a faux political message, except that too would be a faux message, because Debunk is incapable of practicing science. He believes in science fiction, which is not all that bad a thing, but it is when it interferes in reality and when it becomes criminal in nature, such as accepting taxpayer funds under false pretenses.
Nah m8. In fact I'm sure you're just a Poe and maybe (just maybe) you've tricked some flat earthers. I'd like to get to know the real you, even if you "totallackey" are real. I'm sure you're someone else, maybe even operated by the same person operating Papa Legba's account.
No you wouldn't.
And I certainly don't want to know you, having proved yourself to be a liar and peddler of malarkey.
Have your handlers given you carte blanche to post your weak vid yet?
Don't live a fantasy. I just gotta get out the memory card, and put it into my computer, and I'm all set.
Yeah, whatever...you would have done all that right off the bat, Kilroy. Had you had video.
Its okay, as we all know you have destroyed nothing but your own integrity by making such disingenuous claims. You are a joke.
You are the joke.
I think everyone here clearly knows who the fraud is...of course, none of the other socks will be intellectually honest enough and/or moral/ethical enough to admit it.
No, no debunk...
You now need to change your name to BUSTED!
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haha. You're funny.
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If you spam the forum with posts that say nothing other than "you're a liar" or "shill", you'll be given the opportunity to breathe fresh air for a bit. Last warning.
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If you spam the forum with posts that say nothing other than "you're a liar" or "shill", you'll be given the opportunity to breathe fresh air for a bit. Last warning.
I am sorry.
I thought pointing out the fact the OP asked for something, which the OP creator claimed he already had (and has yet to provide by the way), was NOT a low content post. I thought it logical to assume those engaging in such behavior could reasonably assumed to be, in fact, those types of individuals I have referenced.
If I am to understand differently, then an alternate, reasonable explanation would be helpful.
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If you spam the forum with posts that say nothing other than "you're a liar" or "shill", you'll be given the opportunity to breathe fresh air for a bit. Last warning.
Just out of curiosity are you a new mod or had your avatar changed? If your new then congratulations. If not then maybe I need my memory checked.
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If you spam the forum with posts that say nothing other than "you're a liar" or "shill", you'll be given the opportunity to breathe fresh air for a bit. Last warning.
I am sorry.
I thought pointing out the fact the OP asked for something, which the OP creator claimed he already had (and has yet to provide by the way), was NOT a low content post. I thought it logical to assume those engaging in such behavior could reasonably assumed to be, in fact, those types of individuals I have referenced.
If I am to understand differently, then an alternate, reasonable explanation would be helpful.
I doubt anyone here is a shill. I should know since I've spied on everybody's home. ;D
However you sound a lot like papa. It would be ironic and hypocritical that it turned out the one calling everyone a sock puppet created his own.
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If you spam the forum with posts that say nothing other than "you're a liar" or "shill", you'll be given the opportunity to breathe fresh air for a bit. Last warning.
Just out of curiosity are you a new mod or had your avatar changed? If your new then congratulations. If not then maybe I need my memory checked.
I am one of the most eminent living Flat Earth scientists of our generation, and I am one of the longest standing moderators on this website. How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.
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If you spam the forum with posts that say nothing other than "you're a liar" or "shill", you'll be given the opportunity to breathe fresh air for a bit. Last warning.
Just out of curiosity are you a new mod or had your avatar changed? If your new then congratulations. If not then maybe I need my memory checked.
I am one of the most eminent living Flat Earth scientists of our generation, and I am one of the longest standing moderators on this website. How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.
I'm assuming you're jesting. But if not then I apologize. I've only seen you active recently with that avatar and I didn't remember your name.
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It was in jest. The quote was a semi-famous one in ages past from my dear friend James M.
However, I have been in the Society longer than eight years and have been a moderator most of that time.
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It was in jest. The quote was a semi-famous one in ages past from my dear friend James M.
However, I have been in the Society longer than eight years and have been a moderator most of that time.
Wouldn't it be good practice to "quote" the post you are replying to?
You, in jest, make the claim "I am one of the most eminent living Flat Earth scientists of our generation", so,
in jest, how do you rate against
the famous John Davis (with his "Ferrari[1] Effect" earth - " ::) it's really flat, but looks round ::)" or vice-versa?) or
that eminent Flat Earth Scientist, Tom Bishop, of ;D TFES.org ;D, how silly of me, I mean that terrible TFES.org!
[1] Proposed by that famous ;D Planoterrestrialist, Leo Ferrari (http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/20160702%20-%20Leo%20Ferrari%20-%20PlanoTerrestrialist_zpsmtabzp37.png) ;D
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If you spam the forum with posts that say nothing other than "you're a liar" or "shill", you'll be given the opportunity to breathe fresh air for a bit. Last warning.
Just out of curiosity are you a new mod or had your avatar changed? If your new then congratulations. If not then maybe I need my memory checked.
I am one of the most eminent living Flat Earth scientists of our generation, and I am one of the longest standing moderators on this website. How dare you have the audacity to demand my deposition. I've never even heard of you.
Lol n00bs, good one Ski.
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in jest, how do you rate against
the famous John Davis
that eminent Flat Earth Scientist, Tom Bishop
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/20160702%20-%20Leo%20Ferrari%20-%20PlanoTerrestrialist_zpsmtabzp37.png) ;D
If you're the sort of person that carries about in his head a mental ranking of his friends and associates, I can only pity you.
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in jest, how do you rate against
the famous John Davis
that eminent Flat Earth Scientist, Tom Bishop
(http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w433/RabDownunder/20160702%20-%20Leo%20Ferrari%20-%20PlanoTerrestrialist_zpsmtabzp37.png) ;D
If you're the sort of person that carries about in his head a mental ranking of his friends and associates, I can only pity you.
I'm afraid at my age I carry around a lot of useless information! Pity I can never put a name to a face!
I was trying to have a light-hearted dig at your rating of yourself. :) I do pity a person that cannot laugh at themselves at times :).
Don't take my word for it: Laugh At Yourself
How is your sense of humour?
I think the real test of your sense of humour is your ability to laugh at yourself.
From: Laugh at Yourself. (http://www.wholeheartedleaders.com/?p=955) Whatever I try to say, someone much more important than I seems to have said it before :'(!
BTW: Just got a new passport, and looking at my photo there, ::) I might need a bit of the above advice ::)!
Meanwhile back at the landing pad in the OP! Quite a sight wasn't it?
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It was.
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And still no video from the OP, a disingenuous claptrap peddler...
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Thanks for posting the video awesome to see how far we've come in the past few years. Can't wait to see what happens over the next decade.