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Title: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 27, 2016, 12:18:11 PM
The purpose of a 'conspiracy theorists' tinfoil hat is allegedly to Reflect Radio Waves.

Tinfoil is made of Aluminium.

Interestingly, the main ingredient of Chemtrails - which only retards & paid shills cannot see - is also Aluminium...

Along with Barium.

Is there any history of Aluminium & Barium being aerosolised in the upper atmosphere to enhance radio wave reflectivity?

Why yes - there are plenty!

'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?

It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

LOL!!!

Tinfoil hats on everyone; watch the shills assemble!

theEngineer will help out, I'm sure; he LOVES his space-fraud; he's a real, live rokkit enjynerr you know!

Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Mainframes on January 27, 2016, 12:31:03 PM
Evidence please.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on January 27, 2016, 12:57:58 PM
Please search - UN geo engineering program.

Lots of information on atmospheric manipulation using a high altitude aerosol delivery  systemto combat "climate change" lol ( formally known as "global warming")

You may also research the alternatives to beat "solar radiation" including

Solar panels on every roof (this is actually a good idea but would obviously damage energy companies)
Huge space reflectors  ::)
and plenty of other mad cap ideas.

Tiny high altitude reflective particles where chosen on cost,

added bonuses include-
Signal bounce (see op)
Extreme weather (excuse for higher taxation)
Long term soil contamination (monsanto has the answer)
Long term air  contamination (big pharma has the answer)
atmospheric holograms (I suspect some are not ready to even read these applications)
etc


this is not even a conspiracy theory,
they admit it but no one really pays any attention.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on January 27, 2016, 01:49:16 PM
Tin foil is made out of tin. Aluminum foil is made out of aluminum. "Tin foil hat" is now made of aluminum. The term is left over from the old days when they still used tin.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 27, 2016, 04:45:15 PM
There is no actual proof that what is seen in the trails, which by the way have been around since aircraft could fly high enough, contains aluminum or barium.

EVERY test has been done on samples collected on the ground which are not only likely to be contaminated by local sources, but the very idea they can prove anything about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air is absurd.

"Chemtrailers" have for years avoided obtaining and testing a sample taken directly from a trail though some have collected money to do so and then never did anything.  This would be the best evidence they could obtain but for some reason they settle for flawed tests that prove nothing.

And talking about or proposing possible remedies to a problem not everyone agrees exists does not mean they are actually doing what is being talked about.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on January 27, 2016, 05:00:09 PM
Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

You are scraping the barrel now aren't you?  Misunderstanding Newton was good trolling for you,  but as usual you overplayed your hand.   Your alts aren't doing much better.

So sad.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on January 27, 2016, 06:24:10 PM
Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

You are scraping the barrel now aren't you?  Misunderstanding Newton was good trolling for you,  but as usual you overplayed your hand.   Your alts aren't doing much better.

So sad.
What do you mean? "PL IS the bottom of the barrel",
gee, I must bite my tongue and keep quiet! He and his identical twin sister can't help it.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: tappet on January 27, 2016, 10:11:21 PM


'Operation Smoke Puff'


Just had a look at "Operation Smoke Puff" and thought, this is for you Geoff!
(http://)
Don't you just love country and western?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on January 28, 2016, 12:36:56 AM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
they admit it but no one really pays any attention.

Just what do they "admit"?  That all these ideas have been suggested?
Pass the "tin foil hats!

Evidence?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on January 28, 2016, 01:16:50 AM
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
they admit it but no one really pays any attention.

Just what do they "admit"?  That all these ideas have been suggested?
Pass the "tin foil hats!

Evidence?

 
Please search - UN geo engineering program or solar radiation management programs or atmospheric cloud creation etc.

Lots and lots of "evidence",

But unfortunately you now appear scientifically illiterate,
Which is strange because you was an atmospheric expert last week.

search,
Research.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on January 28, 2016, 01:58:24 AM
I fail to see any real problems,   I've got plenty of gluten free apple cider vinegar in stock, and a few spare spray bottles.

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Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: tappet on January 28, 2016, 02:43:50 AM
I fail to see any real problems,   I've got plenty of gluten free apple cider vinegar in stock, and a few spare spray bottles.


What the hell are you doing in that video?
You are making a fool of yourself!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on January 28, 2016, 03:32:46 AM
Why yes - there are plenty!
'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?
It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

I thought 'Operation Smoke Puff' was in Texas and gave a range of "maybe" 700 miles! In the wrong place and way short of the 8,550 miles to get from the UK to Carnarvon!

So, I'm curious!
Just how did your magical tin foil manage a link from the UK to Australia on Friday, November 25th, 1966?
There's no way to cover that distance with your tinpot reflector within the atmosphere!
Still makes good story, you'll be up to Scepti's level soon, keep at it!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 28, 2016, 12:14:02 PM
Simple proof for what I say; search for 'grid chemtrails' on google images.

The checker-board pattern ones.

Then correlate the locations of the images with known air force bases & weapons testing areas.

Look out for DRONE bases & testing especially...

Bingo!

This is old tech; it's been developed since the 1940s at least.

'Window'; 'Chaff'.

Your 'satellites' are just a load of muck chucked out the back of an aeroplane.

I have more evidence too.

Once you know what you're looking at the pieces fall together easily.

ROTHR radar is lulzy for example, as is HAARP...

Toodle-pip disinfo-scum & fraud-mods!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 29, 2016, 01:09:36 AM
Today's homework: research Tropospheric Scatter/Troposcatter.

More to come...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on January 29, 2016, 03:33:26 AM
Strange isn't it,
The usual suspects demand evidence,
get given evidence by the truck load,
then run away.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 29, 2016, 04:14:45 AM
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nodnyl on January 29, 2016, 05:44:03 AM
Papa Legba is the most eminent flat earth scientist. He's never even heard of you clowns.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on January 29, 2016, 06:28:53 AM
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.

Search,
Research,
Learn.

Here's a nice article from 2010,
 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/sep/13/geoengineering-coalition-world-climate (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/sep/13/geoengineering-coalition-world-climate)

" Various schemes have been proposed, with the most promising being adaptation of high-flying aircraft fitted with extra tanks and nozzles to spray the chemicals. A fleet of 747s could do the job. To have the desired effect we would need the equivalent of one Mount Pinatubo eruption every three or four years. "

" Although ideas for climate engineering have been around for at least twenty years, until recently public discussion has been discouraged by the scientific community. Environmentalists and governments have been reluctant to talk about it too. The reason is simple: apart from its unknown side-effects, geoengineering would weaken resolve to reduce carbon emissions."

" Even now, beneath the radar, Russia has already begun testing. Yuri Izrael, a Russian scientist who is both a global-warming sceptic and a senior adviser to Prime Minister Putin, has tested the effects of aerosol spraying from a helicopter on solar radiation reaching the ground. He now plans a full-scale trial."

" Perhaps the wealthy individual he has in mind is Bill Gates
, who has covertly been funding geoengineering research for three years with advice from Keith and Caldeira.  They now oversee Gates' research fund, which has spent some $4.5 million to date, including funding the three private dinners. Keith will not reveal what the money is being spent on, downplaying it as "a little private funding agency". Right—the world's richest man has a little private funding agency devoted to researching ways to manipulate the Earth's climate system. Conspiracy theory anyone?"

" Gates is also an investor in a firm named Intellectual Ventures that is promoting a scheme called "StratoShield
", which would pump sulphur dioxide into the upper atmosphere through a 30-kilometre hose held aloft by V-shaped blimps.   Intellectual Ventures is run by Nathan Myhrvold, former chief technology officer at Microsoft, and includes Lowell Wood among its associates."

Stratoshield ?

" but a more disturbing effect of enhanced dimming would be the permanent whitening of day-time skies. A washed-out sky would become the norm."

Hmmmm

it goes on,

This article from 2010 should get you thinking,
Unless of course you believe all well funded governmental and private organisations have a policy of full disclosure and hold press conferences to inform you, the man in the street of their every move.

This short article is one of thousands of articles,
lots of linked information and jump off points.

You could do some research and come back with findings,
or continue wearing a blind fold.

It's up to you,
Just remember it's your world as much as it is theirs.
"
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 29, 2016, 07:00:28 AM
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.

Search,
Research,
Learn.


Your burden of proof.  And still no proof anything is being done.  Talking about possibly doing something is not proof it is being done.  Especially when we see these trails from all aircraft that are high enough, including commercial aircraft.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Yendor on January 29, 2016, 07:03:31 AM
Still waiting for evidence to be given.  I've seen claims that the checkerboard patterns are supposedly  correlated with with bases and weapons testing but no evidence.  I've seen claims that the trails contain barium and aluminum but no proof.  There is talk about a UN geoengineering program but no proof it has gotten further than talk.  No reason to run when no actual evidence has been presented.  So far this one of the most boring "chemtrails" threads I've ever seen.

Search,
Research,
Learn.

Here's a nice article from 2010,
 http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/sep/13/geoengineering-coalition-world-climate (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/sep/13/geoengineering-coalition-world-climate)

" Various schemes have been proposed, with the most promising being adaptation of high-flying aircraft fitted with extra tanks and nozzles to spray the chemicals. A fleet of 747s could do the job. To have the desired effect we would need the equivalent of one Mount Pinatubo eruption every three or four years. "

" Although ideas for climate engineering have been around for at least twenty years, until recently public discussion has been discouraged by the scientific community. Environmentalists and governments have been reluctant to talk about it too. The reason is simple: apart from its unknown side-effects, geoengineering would weaken resolve to reduce carbon emissions."

" Even now, beneath the radar, Russia has already begun testing. Yuri Izrael, a Russian scientist who is both a global-warming sceptic and a senior adviser to Prime Minister Putin, has tested the effects of aerosol spraying from a helicopter on solar radiation reaching the ground. He now plans a full-scale trial."

" Perhaps the wealthy individual he has in mind is Bill Gates
, who has covertly been funding geoengineering research for three years with advice from Keith and Caldeira.  They now oversee Gates' research fund, which has spent some $4.5 million to date, including funding the three private dinners. Keith will not reveal what the money is being spent on, downplaying it as "a little private funding agency". Right—the world's richest man has a little private funding agency devoted to researching ways to manipulate the Earth's climate system. Conspiracy theory anyone?"

" Gates is also an investor in a firm named Intellectual Ventures that is promoting a scheme called "StratoShield
", which would pump sulphur dioxide into the upper atmosphere through a 30-kilometre hose held aloft by V-shaped blimps.   Intellectual Ventures is run by Nathan Myhrvold, former chief technology officer at Microsoft, and includes Lowell Wood among its associates."

Stratoshield ?

" but a more disturbing effect of enhanced dimming would be the permanent whitening of day-time skies. A washed-out sky would become the norm."

Hmmmm

it goes on,

This article from 2010 should get you thinking,
Unless of course you believe all well funded governmental and private organisations have a policy of full disclosure and hold press conferences to inform you, the man in the street of their every move.

This short article is one of thousands of articles,
lots of linked information and jump off points.

You could do some research and come back with findings,
or continue wearing a blind fold.

It's up to you,
Just remember it's your world as much as it is theirs.
"

I guess this video is in the neighborhood of what you are talking about.

 (http://)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 29, 2016, 11:47:13 AM
The whole 'climate engineering' thing is logistically-impossible bullshit.

A red-herring fear-porn cover story.

As well as an excuse to tax us for breathing; 'CO2 emissions' - LOL!!!.

The only reason for chemtrails is to enhance communications capabilities.

They are sprayed along very specific & narrow corridors.

Simple observation alone will confirm this fact.

Your 'satellites' are just muck thrown out the back of airplanes.

I am correct in this.

Research, observe, & you will agree.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on January 31, 2016, 01:08:29 PM
I find the sudden lack of responses from the usual screeching forum squatters quite amusing.

have they really run out of pre prepared debunk cut and paste disinfo ?

Seems that way.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 31, 2016, 04:34:21 PM
Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 31, 2016, 04:41:49 PM
I find the sudden lack of responses from the usual screeching forum squatters quite amusing.

have they really run out of pre prepared debunk cut and paste disinfo ?

Seems that way.
Still waiting for actual evidence.  Talking about geoengineering is not proof it is being done.  And there is no proof at all that the trails contain aluminum or barium.  "Chemtrailers" have avoided getting samples directly from a trail for years.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 31, 2016, 04:43:20 PM
Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 31, 2016, 05:45:38 PM
LOL!!!

Poor try, frenat-whose-youtube-channel-shows-exactly-what-you-are.

I saw what I saw: thick, low-altitude chemtrails directly above the surveyors for a £450 million construction project.

There were a lot of surveyors too; they were doing the railway, as a new station is part of the project, as are bridges, roads, the lot.

And they were all using GPS surveying equipment.

It is a big project & the date of the surveying is a matter of public record.

But you can believe what you want; perhaps the Red Arrows were doing a display to entertain the surveyors?

Or they had crops that needed dusting?

I can't think of many other reasons for laying smoke-trails over construction projects...

Can you, Mr. ex-military radar expert (lol!)?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 31, 2016, 06:07:27 PM
LOL!!!

Poor try, frenat

I saw what I saw: thick, low-altitude chemtrails directly above the surveyors for a £450 million construction project.
And again, how did you know what altitude they were at?
There were a lot of surveyors too; they were doing the railway, as a new station is part of the project, as are bridges, roads, the lot.

And they were all using GPS surveying equipment.

It is a big project & the date of the surveying is a matter of public record.
I'm sure it was a big project.  Why would I doubt that?  You have yet to prove the trails thousands of feet above were related in any way though.   ::)

But you can believe what you want; perhaps the Red Arrows were doing a display to entertain the surveyors?

Or they had crops that needed dusting?

I can't think of many other reasons for laying smoke-trails over construction projects...

Can you, Mr. ex-military radar expert (lol!)?
Since you've provided no evidence whatsoever, I'll believe the most likely that they were contrails, completely unrelated to what was going on beneath them except in your paranoid mind.  That you think they were laid purposely for this construction project when they likely covered many hundreds of square miles shows just how paranoid you are.

So the questions still stand unanswered.
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 31, 2016, 06:24:11 PM
LOL!!!

What a jackass!

'They were contrails'....

LMFAO!!!

Seriously, neutrals; go look at this crank's youtube channel - LULZ!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 31, 2016, 06:34:41 PM
LOL!!!

What a jackass!

'They were contrails'....

LMFAO!!!

Seriously, neutrals; go look at this crank's youtube channel - LULZ!

You've provided no proof they are anything but.  But thanks for the admission of stalking. 

So the questions still stand unanswered:
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: hoppy on January 31, 2016, 08:51:05 PM
Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
I've been observing these mother fuckers spraying shit on me day after day. Sometimes there is a much as 20 chemtrails that I can see from my back porch. Some days there are none. Usually if none are there in the morning they spray them sometime during the day. That shit turns the sky white, I can sit there and watch that shit spread out. It turns the sky from blue to white.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 31, 2016, 09:24:16 PM
Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
I've been observing these mother fuckers spraying shit on me day after day. Sometimes there is a much as 20 chemtrails that I can see from my back porch. Some days there are none. Usually if none are there in the morning they spray them sometime during the day. That shit turns the sky white, I can sit there and watch that shit spread out. It turns the sky from blue to white.

Exactly, hoppy; only a full retard would deny that these things exist.

And anyone who's old enough to remember pre-1990's skies - let alone grew up around military pilots & air bases like myself - knows damn well they're not 'persistent contrails'.

Thing is, they're not especially harmful; even with them the air in the UK is far cleaner than it was when I was younger & there was more industry & domestic coal fires.

So it's not a big deal for me to be honest; in fact the only reason I started this thread was because a fraud mod kept locking my rocket threads so I thought I'd cause some trouble by letting one of the military's best-kept secrets out of the bag...

Just to piss all the spook-trolls here off, like.

Same reason I mentioned frenat's youtube troll channel; I see he's cleaned it up & hidden his little troll playlist, as well as the lulzy video of a man dressed as a fairy dancing to gaylord music.

Spook-trolls deserve pissing off, you see...

Because nobody likes them, their controllers least of all; let's face it, who on earth would relish spending their working life dealing with people so morally bankrupt they're prepared to spend all day on the internet lying & snooping for a living?

Yuck! Horrid things they are...

Anyhoo; keep Observing & remember - 'satellites' are just a bunch of muck thrown out the back of an airplane!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on January 31, 2016, 09:52:57 PM
Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
I've been observing these mother fuckers spraying shit on me day after day. Sometimes there is a much as 20 chemtrails that I can see from my back porch. Some days there are none. Usually if none are there in the morning they spray them sometime during the day. That shit turns the sky white, I can sit there and watch that shit spread out. It turns the sky from blue to white.

Exactly, hoppy; only a full retard would deny that these things exist.
Ad hominem noted. 

And anyone who's old enough to remember pre-1990's skies - let alone grew up around military pilots & air bases like myself - knows damn well they're not 'persistent contrails'.
Except for the fact that they've been around since planes could fly high enough.
Here's a study from 1942 saying contrails can be persistent
http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/reports/1942/naca-wr-l-474.pdf (http://naca.central.cranfield.ac.uk/reports/1942/naca-wr-l-474.pdf)
Of course they have increased in frequency but then so has high altitude jet travel.  And of course the fact that newer high-bypass jet engines put out more water in the exhaust also means more contrails.  But they were still around well before the 90's

This pic was in a book in 1967
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/cloud-studies-115.jpg)
This is from WWII
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/topcoverphotow.jpg)
Life Magazine 1970
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/Vapour-Trails-LIFE.jpg)
also Life Magazine 1956
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/A-sky-shot-of-the-UN-Headquaters-C.-for-LIFE.jpg)
A few from WWII
(http://contrailscience.com/wp-content/uploads/Alerted-GIs-of-M-51-Anti-aircraft-Batter-LIFE.jpg)
(http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/ff756c4c69c54510_large)
(http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/440621810ae2c1df_large)

Newspaper quotes about persisting contrails from the 40's 50's and 70's
http://contrailscience.com/persisting-and-spreading-contrails/ (http://contrailscience.com/persisting-and-spreading-contrails/)

Gee, seems like you're wrong about this being only post 90's. 



Thing is, they're not especially harmful; even with them the air in the UK is far cleaner than it was when I was younger & there was more industry & domestic coal fires.

So it's not a big deal for me to be honest; in fact the only reason I started this thread was because a fraud mod kept locking my rocket threads so I thought I'd cause some trouble by letting one of the military's best-kept secrets out of the bag...

Just to piss all the spook-trolls here off, like.
deliberate trolling noted

Same reason I mentioned frenat's youtube troll channel;
Stalking noted.  You seem obsessed. 

Spook-trolls deserve pissing off, you see...

Because nobody likes them, their controllers least of all; let's face it, who on earth would relish spending their working life dealing with people so morally bankrupt they're prepared to spend all day on the internet lying & snooping for a living?

Yuck! Horrid things they are...
Thank you for a wonderful example of your paranoia.


Anyhoo; keep Observing & remember - 'satellites' are just a bunch of muck thrown out the back of an airplane!
Such an extraordinary claim should have evidence.  Ever going to provide some?

So the questions still stand unanswered:
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: hoppy on January 31, 2016, 09:54:01 PM
Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Rama Set on January 31, 2016, 10:29:13 PM
Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Since when do you use the word shit so much?

Reported for trolling.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on January 31, 2016, 10:39:11 PM
Since when do you use the word shit so much?

Reported for trolling.

LOL!!!

Derail-fail...


Now; to answer hoppy:

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.

Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion. Only genuine inquiries such as yours, good hoppy, will be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 01, 2016, 05:55:26 AM
Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.
If only you could prove any of this.  There is no proof of the content of the trails.  Samples collected at ground level prove nothing about trails 30,000+ feet above.  Secondly, your suggestion that it is being used for "satellites" is absurd for multiple reasons.  First there are many days when no trails appear yet satellites still work.  Then there are areas where trails rarely if ever appear due to a lack of commercial traffic in the area, yet satellites still work (Panama City, FL is one such area, commercial traffic is regularly routed around the area due to the multiple military training areas just off the coast resulting in many clear skies).  Finally, assuming it is being used to reflect something, once it is sprayed, it will move.  It will blow around, start settling to the ground, etc.  Trying to use an unpredictable reflector for precise measurements, as you suggested your surveyors were doing, is ridiculous.


As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.
Aluminum is one of the more common elements in soil.  Always has been.  It raises the acidity level in soil. Having seeds that are resistant to aluminum would be desirable no matter what.

Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion. Only genuine inquiries such as yours, good hoppy, will be taken seriously.
Translation:  His post completely destroyed my assertion that these trails only showed up since the 90's so I have to ignore it.  To respond in any meaningful way means I'd have to provide evidence and everybody knows I never present evidence!




So the questions still stand unanswered:
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 06, 2016, 03:25:51 PM
So; armed with correct information as to what 'chemtrails' are, have any of you been Observing them?
You've yet to provide any evidence of what they "really are"

You really should.

A bit of history: they first appeared in the mid-1990s, shortly after the NATO 'smart' weapons testing exercise known as 'Desert Storm'.
That is a lie as I showed in my previous post.

At exactly the same time 'GPS' was released to the public & cell phones started to become popular, in fact...
So you think a shifting reflector will aid in a precision location service?  Really?   LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

No coincidence there, eh?
You've still yet to prove they started appearing then.  I posted multiple pictures dating before that as well as links to newspaper articles where people described the same thing back in the 50's

LOL!!!

It's so obvious a child can see it...

Your 'satellites' are just muck chucked out of an airplane.
If only you could prove it.  But that would require presenting evidence and everyone knows you'll never do that.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 06, 2016, 03:44:13 PM
He's stuck.

Can somebody reboot the Papa Legba bot please?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 06, 2016, 03:47:57 PM
Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion

So; armed with correct information as to what 'chemtrails' are, have any of you been Observing them?

You really should.

A bit of history: they first appeared in the mid-1990s, shortly after the NATO 'smart' weapons testing exercise known as 'Desert Storm'.

At exactly the same time 'GPS' was released to the public & cell phones started to become popular, in fact...

No coincidence there, eh?

LOL!!!

It's so obvious a child can see it...

Your 'satellites' are just muck chucked out of an airplane.

Toodle-pip, Spooks!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 06, 2016, 03:50:18 PM
The purpose of a 'conspiracy theorists' tinfoil hat is allegedly to Reflect Radio Waves.

Tinfoil is made of Aluminium.

Interestingly, the main ingredient of Chemtrails - which only retards & paid shills cannot see - is also Aluminium...

Along with Barium.

Is there any history of Aluminium & Barium being aerosolised in the upper atmosphere to enhance radio wave reflectivity?

Why yes - there are plenty!

'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?

It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

LOL!!!

Tinfoil hats on everyone; watch the shills assemble!

theEngineer will help out, I'm sure; he LOVES his space-fraud; he's a real, live rokkit enjynerr you know!

Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

Now; to answer hoppy:

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.

Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion. Only genuine inquiries such as yours, good hoppy, will be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on February 06, 2016, 03:50:43 PM
Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion

So; armed with correct information as to what 'chemtrails' are, have any of you been Observing them?

You really should.

A bit of history: they first appeared in the mid-1990s, shortly after the NATO 'smart' weapons testing exercise known as 'Desert Storm'.

At exactly the same time 'GPS' was released to the public & cell phones started to become popular, in fact...

No coincidence there, eh?

LOL!!!

It's so obvious a child can see it...

Your 'satellites' are just muck chucked out of an airplane.

Toodle-pip, Spooks!
Technology advancements are scary to you?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on February 06, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?
What makes you think that the enemy doesn't have a similar satellite based communication system?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 06, 2016, 03:56:45 PM
Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion
That is a lie or you wouldn't be repeating yourself desperately trying to get the last word.  You're only proving the validity of crank magnetism.

Quote from: Papa Smurflink=topic=65626.msg1755871#msg1755871 date=1454802477
A bit of history: they first appeared in the mid-1990s, shortly after the NATO 'smart' weapons testing exercise known as 'Desert Storm'.
Still a lie.  Why are you lying?

At exactly the same time 'GPS' was released to the public & cell phones started to become popular, in fact...
Still as funny as the first time you posted this.  That you think a shifting reflective layer would aid in a PRECISION locating service is hilarious!  That you think think your mythical "chemtrails" are military based when the majority provably come from commercial aircraft is also funny.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 06, 2016, 04:06:56 PM
Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion
And another lie.  You wouldn't me repeating yourself if you were ignoring me.  Can't stop lying, can you?

So; armed with correct information as to what 'chemtrails' are, have any of you been Observing them?
So who has supplied this "correct" information?  Because no "chemtrailer" has bothered to provide any actual evidence.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 06, 2016, 04:08:41 PM
Technology advancements are scary to you?

No; because I understand them.

Unlike your idiot self.

What makes you think that the enemy doesn't have a similar satellite based communication system?

The 'enemy' of the modern military is ordinary citizens of their own state.

You demonstrate this fact with every post you make.

And no, ordinary citizens do not have 'satellites'.

They do, in the case of the USA, have small arms.

As these suffice to destroy ground-based comms systems, the military want to get rid of them asap.

Hence bullshit like Sandy Hook.

Enjoy your slavery, peons!

Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion

So; armed with correct information as to what 'chemtrails' are, have any of you been Observing them?

You really should.

A bit of history: they first appeared in the mid-1990s, shortly after the NATO 'smart' weapons testing exercise known as 'Desert Storm'.

At exactly the same time 'GPS' was released to the public & cell phones started to become popular, in fact...

No coincidence there, eh?

LOL!!!

It's so obvious a child can see it...

Your 'satellites' are just muck chucked out of an airplane.

Toodle-pip, Spooks!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on February 06, 2016, 04:40:53 PM
What makes you think that the enemy doesn't have a similar satellite based communication system?

The 'enemy' of the modern military is ordinary citizens of their own state.
Sorry, I thought that the enemy that you were referring to was the former Soviet Union.  You know, the long time cold war and space race rivals that drove rocket and satellite development since the early 1950s.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 06, 2016, 04:50:07 PM
Sorry markjo, the adults are talking here...

No need for your disinfo bullshit.

Technology advancements are scary to you?

No; because I understand them.

Unlike your idiot self.

What makes you think that the enemy doesn't have a similar satellite based communication system?

The 'enemy' of the modern military is ordinary citizens of their own state.

You demonstrate this fact with every post you make.

And no, ordinary citizens do not have 'satellites'.

They do, in the case of the USA, have small arms.

As these suffice to destroy ground-based comms systems, the military want to get rid of them asap.

Hence bullshit like Sandy Hook.

Enjoy your slavery, peons!

Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion

So; armed with correct information as to what 'chemtrails' are, have any of you been Observing them?

You really should.

A bit of history: they first appeared in the mid-1990s, shortly after the NATO 'smart' weapons testing exercise known as 'Desert Storm'.

At exactly the same time 'GPS' was released to the public & cell phones started to become popular, in fact...

No coincidence there, eh?

LOL!!!

It's so obvious a child can see it...

Your 'satellites' are just muck chucked out of an airplane.

Toodle-pip, Spooks!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 09, 2016, 11:55:36 AM
And still no proof of the content of the trails.  Apparently Papa Legba thinks a sample taken AT BEST 6 miles+ away from the source can identify anything about the contents of the source.  Please share with us your magical method of sample collection.  I'm sure everyone could use the laugh!  Apparently he's also OK with the "chemtrail" "researchers" that have taken money in the past to collect samples directly from a trail and then disappeared with nothing to show for it.

By the way Papa Legba, hilarious that you can't just admit you made a mistake when you assumed I was not a native English speaker.  Never could find that claim you thought existed, could you?

keep up the humor!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 09, 2016, 12:01:55 PM
Just to annoy clumsy disinfo-ferret & perfect English-speaker frenat (lol!) now he's here, this again:

The purpose of a 'conspiracy theorists' tinfoil hat is allegedly to Reflect Radio Waves.

Tinfoil is made of Aluminium.

Interestingly, the main ingredient of Chemtrails - which only retards & paid shills cannot see - is also Aluminium...

Along with Barium.

Is there any history of Aluminium & Barium being aerosolised in the upper atmosphere to enhance radio wave reflectivity?

Why yes - there are plenty!

'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?

It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

LOL!!!

Tinfoil hats on everyone; watch the shills assemble!

theEngineer will help out, I'm sure; he LOVES his space-fraud; he's a real, live rokkit enjynerr you know!

Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...

Now; to answer hoppy:

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.

Finally, I am completely ignoring the ludicrous frenat disinfo-entity, as it has nothing to add to this discussion. Only genuine inquiries such as yours, good hoppy, will be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 10, 2016, 11:04:56 AM
An interesting thing about chemtrails is that both the reason for their existence & empirical observation of them are two of the strongest possible proofs that the Earth has convex curvature.

So you'd think the clown derfers here would be happy to cite them as evidence...

Instead they're all screaming that they do not exist.

Strange, eh?

Have a think on that for a while, as well as having a think about exactly why there's been such a sudden upsurge in 'flat earth' b.s. on the web recently, then we'll continue...

I am bored with you all & my intel-gathering on this site is now complete.

So we may as well approach the end-game, assorted spooks & shills.

Toodle-pip, Losers!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 10, 2016, 03:14:24 PM
An interesting thing about chemtrails is that both the reason for their existence & empirical observation of them are two of the strongest possible proofs that the Earth has convex curvature.

So you'd think the clown derfers here would be happy to cite them as evidence...

Instead they're all screaming that they do not exist.

Strange, eh?

Have a think on that for a while, as well as having a think about exactly why there's been such a sudden upsurge in 'flat earth' b.s. on the web recently, then we'll continue...

I am bored with you all & my intel-gathering on this site is now complete.

So we may as well approach the end-game, assorted spooks & shills.

Toodle-pip, Losers!

I'd be perfectly willing to admit they exist, IF there were any actual evidence.  To date, ALL samples collected have been collected on the ground.  That proves NOTHING about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.  Since there is no proof of their content then any speculation on their purpose is nothing more than speculation.

Personally, all the trails I've seen have formed when the conditions were conducive to persistent contrail formation.  I've also seen the vast majority of them coming from commercial aircraft.  And then they look like contrails.  They form separated from the engine and grow.  Anything sprayed should be thickest nearest the plane and then spread out.

Collect a sample directly from a trail, maintain a proper chain of custody and have it tested at an independent lab and if it shows anything more than what should be found in a normal contrail then you'll make a believer out of me.  To date, though some have promised to collect samples that way and some have even collected money to do so, none have done it and the money just disappeared.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 10, 2016, 08:53:59 PM
Yep, the blackmailed paedo internet disinfo-things simply will not acknowledge the existence of one of the most blatant & easily-visible proofs of the earth's curvature there is.

LOL!!!

Let us examine the term 'over the horizon communications'; because that is what chemtrails facilitate.

Note the word 'OVER'...

If there is no horizon, as on the b.s. flat earth, why would OVER the horizon comms be needed?

Plus, if you get to an elevated vantage point, you can WATCH a chemtrailing plane rise up above the horizon, the trail it leaves behind CLEARLY following the curvature exactly as predicted.

I was doing so yesterday, on three occasions; it would be easy to video such an event & post it here...

Yet the lying paedo-things do not.

Now why would that be, I wonder?

LOL!!!

Btw; anyone ever met a 'flat earther' IRL? Because I have not, ever.

Yet the interwebz seem to be full of em...

Psyop detected!

A psyop to detract from space/satellite fraud, chemtrails, & associate any 'truther' with the worst kind of nonsense imaginable...

& shit like the trans pacific trade pact too; lotsa Aussie shills active here, helping sell their country to the jackals like the treacherous paedos they are.

My grandpa would have shot such types on sight & thrown their corpse in a shell-hole...

But that's another story.

Like I say, I'm bored with this place now; I know who you all are, who you work for & why.

Not much more to do except rag on your vile selves & point out how dumb & corrupt you are...

Todle-pip, scum of the earth!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 10, 2016, 10:31:59 PM
Like I say, I'm bored with this place now; I know who you all are, who you work for & why.

Not much more to do except rag on your vile selves & point out how dumb & corrupt you are...

Todle-pip, scum of the earth!

TTFN,   little voodoo creep.    Don't hurry back.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 10, 2016, 10:50:13 PM
Wow, fantastic input there from the self-confessed time wasting troll!

But I'm going nowhere; I'm just gonna tell you how it is.

I'll start by reposting the stuff you want to divert & derail from:

Yep, the blackmailed paedo internet disinfo-things simply will not acknowledge the existence of one of the most blatant & easily-visible proofs of the earth's curvature there is.

LOL!!!

Let us examine the term 'over the horizon communications'; because that is what chemtrails facilitate.

Note the word 'OVER'...

If there is no horizon, as on the b.s. flat earth, why would OVER the horizon comms be needed?

Plus, if you get to an elevated vantage point, you can WATCH a chemtrailing plane rise up above the horizon, the trail it leaves behind CLEARLY following the curvature exactly as predicted.

I was doing so yesterday, on three occasions; it would be easy to video such an event & post it here...

Yet the lying paedo-things do not.

Now why would that be, I wonder?

LOL!!!

Btw; anyone ever met a 'flat earther' IRL? Because I have not, ever.

Yet the interwebz seem to be full of em...

Psyop detected!

A psyop to detract from space/satellite fraud, chemtrails, & associate any 'truther' with the worst kind of nonsense imaginable...

& shit like the trans pacific trade pact too; lotsa Aussie shills active here, helping sell their country to the jackals like the treacherous paedos they are.

My grandpa would have shot such types on sight & thrown their corpse in a shell-hole...

But that's another story.

Like I say, I'm bored with this place now; I know who you all are, who you work for & why.

Not much more to do except rag on your vile selves & point out how dumb & corrupt you are...

Todle-pip, scum of the earth!

JUST TO REMIND NEUTRALS: CHEMTRAILS PROVE THE CURVATURE OF THE EARTH.

BUT ALL THE 'ROUND EARTHER' DISINFO-BOTS IGNORE THIS FACT.

ASK YOURSELVES WHY THIS IS THE CASE.

ASK YOURSELVES IF YOU'VE EVER MET A 'FLAT EARTHER' IRL.

ASK YOURSELVES WHERE THE 'FLAT EARTH MOVEMENT' ORIGINATED.

WAKEY-WAKEY SLOWPOKES!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 10, 2016, 11:23:23 PM
Everyone knows flat earth is a psyop,   for god's sake stop shouting about it,  do you want them all to find out?   BTW  You are wrong about space,  big time.   

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 11, 2016, 04:26:53 AM
it would prove a round Earth IF you could prove the content and purpose.  You don't even try because you know the samples collected from the ground prove nothing.

Their shape and visibility proves a round Earth anyway but they don't have to be mythical "chemtrails" to do that.


Collect a sample directly from a trail, maintain a proper chain of custody and have it tested at an independent lab and if it shows anything more than what should be found in a normal contrail then you'll make a believer out of me.  To date, though some have promised to collect samples that way and some have even collected money to do so, none have done it and the money just disappeared.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on February 11, 2016, 05:52:20 AM
So much ridiculous fail again ^

rain water samples tested in labs show the afore mentioned chemicals that have no right being in the rain water.

But of course the lab tested rain water specimens are not good enough for you, are they ?

you demand someone skydives directly into a trail and somehow collect a sample,

Did you comment on the previous evidence you demanded ?
Nope.
Will you keep making your demands more ridiculous to the point of making your ridiculous demands impossible to meet ?
Yes, of course.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 11, 2016, 06:03:49 AM
So much ridiculous fail again ^

rain water samples tested in labs show the afore mentioned chemicals that have no right being in the rain water.
Samples collected on the ground do not prove something 30,000+ feet in the air.  Especially when these trails are above the weather producing clouds and it is known that anything released at altitudes like that can take days if not weeks to settle to the ground.  It is far more likely to come from local pollution or other local contamination.  Some samples were collected from stagnant water ponds and others collected in aluminum containers.

But of course the lab tested rain water specimens are not good enough for you, are they ?
They don't prove what you think they do.  And of course nobody has bothered to link to any of them here anyway.

you demand someone skydives directly into a trail and somehow collect a sample,
I never mentioned skydiving.  Nice attempt at a strawman.  "Chemtrailers" have proposed renting a plane (there are even planes already outfitted for collecting air samples) and collecting directly from a trail and some have even collected money to do so in the past.  Yet none ever do it.

Did you comment on the previous evidence you demanded ?
Nope.
nobody has provided any evidence.  There has been mention of geoengineering (but no links provided in thread) but I DID comment that talking about geoengineering does not equal actually doing it.  Prove it is happening.

Will you keep making your demands more ridiculous to the point of making your ridiculous demands impossible to meet ?
Yes, of course.
renting a plane as people have previously said they'd do is impossible?  Asking for links or anything more than bare assertion to be posted in thread is impossible?  You seem to have an interesting opinion of what is impossible.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Woody on February 11, 2016, 06:16:02 AM
So much ridiculous fail again ^

rain water samples tested in labs show the afore mentioned chemicals that have no right being in the rain water.

But of course the lab tested rain water specimens are not good enough for you, are they ?

you demand someone skydives directly into a trail and somehow collect a sample,

Did you comment on the previous evidence you demanded ?
Nope.
Will you keep making your demands more ridiculous to the point of making your ridiculous demands impossible to meet ?
Yes, of course.

Could you provide links or post the test results showing where and when the samples were taken and hopefully the methodology used?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 11, 2016, 06:28:56 AM
rain water samples tested in labs show the afore mentioned chemicals that have no right being in the rain water.

Do really believe this crap?     I always put chemtrail loonies at the bottom of the conspiracy food chain.    Next thing you'll be believing flat earth is a psyop.


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on February 11, 2016, 07:01:36 AM
Lol ^,
Feel free to deny documented reality to your hearts content.

Maybe you believe the evidence is all fabricated and is one huge conspiracy by scientists, laboratories and members of the public   :o

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 11, 2016, 07:17:23 AM
Lol ^,
Feel free to deny documented reality to your hearts content.

Maybe you believe the evidence is all fabricated and is one huge conspiracy by scientists, laboratories and members of the public   :o

What evidence?   Contrails aren't evidence of anything other than  exhaust condensation.   
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on February 11, 2016, 08:04:44 AM
JUST TO REMIND NEUTRALS: CHEMTRAILS PROVE THE CURVATURE OF THE EARTH.

BUT ALL THE 'ROUND EARTHER' DISINFO-BOTS IGNORE THIS FACT.
Lurk moar.  High altitude clouds have been used a number of times to prove the curvature of the earth.  However, just like you, FE'ers tend to ignore, deny and rebuff any such compelling evidence.  That's why you would make a good FE'er; you have about the same level of intellectual integrity as an FE'er.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 11, 2016, 09:16:40 AM
NO U!!!

The usual high quality contribution from paedo-lover & all-round scmuck markjo.

Of course, clouds are NOT comparable to a chemtrail-laying plane as they do not zoom over the horizon at 500 mph whilst leaving a thin smoke trail behind them...

A trail which exactly follows the curvature of the earth, I might add.

I watched this happen three times yesterday & it is the clearest evidence of curvature I have ever witnessed.

Yet the disinfo-things just cannot admit this phenomenon even exists; are they blind?

Or are they not allowed to..?

LOL!!!

How's it feel to be muzzled like a Dog, Losers?

Toodle-pip, disinfo-pets!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: feuk on February 11, 2016, 09:27:26 AM
Lol ^,
Feel free to deny documented reality to your hearts content.

Maybe you believe the evidence is all fabricated and is one huge conspiracy by scientists, laboratories and members of the public   :o

What evidence?   Contrails aren't evidence of anything other than  exhaust condensation.

*facepalm*

Analysed rain water you numpty  ;D
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 11, 2016, 09:40:54 AM
Also this:

Everyone knows flat earth is a psyop

Interesting that you are acknowledging flat earth is a psyop, 'Homie Rayzor', as well as admitting psyops in fact exist.

You seem to have dropped out of your usual 'you're-all-tinfoil-hatter-conspiracy-theorist-nutters!' character, 'Homie Rayzor'...

Any other psyops you'd care to inform us of now you've started?

This is why my grandpa would have shot you & thrown your corpse in a shell-hole.

Because your field-craft is shocking & you are shit at your job.

Stay behind your keyboard, 'Homie Rayzor'; you would be dead meat on IRL ops...

'Homie Rayzor'.


lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on February 11, 2016, 09:50:04 AM
Lol ^,
Feel free to deny documented reality to your hearts content.

Maybe you believe the evidence is all fabricated and is one huge conspiracy by scientists, laboratories and members of the public   :o

What evidence?   Contrails aren't evidence of anything other than  exhaust condensation.

*facepalm*

Analysed rain water you numpty  ;D
Chemtrail/contrail clouds are generally far too high and too sparse to produce rain.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 11, 2016, 09:55:54 AM
Chemtrail/contrail clouds are generally far too high and too sparse to produce rain.

Now markjo's admitting chemtrails exist...

Another keyboard warrior for the shell-hole.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 11, 2016, 05:27:18 PM
Lol ^,
Feel free to deny documented reality to your hearts content.

Maybe you believe the evidence is all fabricated and is one huge conspiracy by scientists, laboratories and members of the public   :o

What evidence?   Contrails aren't evidence of anything other than  exhaust condensation.

*facepalm*

Analysed rain water you numpty  ;D

So contrails at 30,000 ft have been analysed and contamination from other sources eliminated?    Rain water analysis is meaningless without context.

Just so I can understand a bit more explain how you think chemicals get into the contrails?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 11, 2016, 05:32:47 PM
Also this:

Everyone knows flat earth is a psyop

Interesting that you are acknowledging flat earth is a psyop, 'Homie Rayzor', as well as admitting psyops in fact exist.

You seem to have dropped out of your usual 'you're-all-tinfoil-hatter-conspiracy-theorist-nutters!' character, 'Homie Rayzor'...

Any other psyops you'd care to inform us of now you've started?

This is why my grandpa would have shot you & thrown your corpse in a shell-hole.

Because your field-craft is shocking & you are shit at your job.

Stay behind your keyboard, 'Homie Rayzor'; you would be dead meat on IRL ops...

'Homie Rayzor'.


lol.

What,   now you are calling on the spirits of your ancestors to avenge your failings in real life?    Sad and pathetic.

BTW,  what's with the "Homie"  thing all of a sudden,  did you become a rapper all of a sudden?

Everyone knows that a  psyop is the only rational explanation for the flat earth movement,  if you can make them believe the earth is flat they will believe anything.  :)
Don't know why it took you so long to figure it out.   You are going to get demoted if you don't lift your game.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 11, 2016, 10:41:07 PM
Another meltdown from 'Homie Rayzor'; he sees conspiracies everywhere you know?
Except when it comes to flat earth; he says that's a psyop.

What's with the "Homie Rayzor"  thing,  normally I can decode your retarded insults,  but this one has me stumped? 

Did I say flat earth was a psyop,  you must be mistaken.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 11, 2016, 11:52:06 PM

Except when it comes to flat earth; he says that's a psyop.

Then he changes his mind; then he changes it back...


See how easily confused you are,  this is not going to look good on your record....   

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 04:10:03 AM

Just to add; on the day that all the chemtrailing was going on there were normal planes flying at the same speed & altitude as the chemplanes but leaving ordinary contrails.
And how could you tell just using your eyes that they were at the same altitude?  Especially considering that the difference between whether a contrail will be persistent or not could be just a few feet of altitude.  Apparently you must have a skill that nobody else in the world does because what you are describing is impossible using just your eyes.  Amazing!   ::)

And are you really basing your determination of whether something is a contrail or "chemtrail" on its persistence?  Do you believe persistent contrails can't exist?


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
And how could you tell just using your eyes that they were at the same altitude?

LOL!!!

What else am I supposed to use?

My ears?

My nose?

You idiot.

And just stop with your 'persistent contrails' bullshit.

I grew up in a family of military pilots, near airbases, remember?

They were actually flying over Europe in the winter of 1945, so stick your misleading photos up your disinfo-arse.

And seems Rayzor's gone mental again...

Chuntering away to himself like a tramp on a park bench:

Did I say flat earth was a psyop,  you must be mistaken.

Oh look:

Everyone knows flat earth is a psyop

LOL!!!

Psycho.

Poor old 'Homie Rayzor'; he sees conspiracies everywhere you know?

Except when it comes to flat earth; he says that's a psyop.

Then he changes his mind; then he changes it back...

Anyhoo, amongst all the psychotic episodes & NO U!!! no-one addressed this:

Yep, the blackmailed paedo internet disinfo-things simply will not acknowledge the existence of one of the most blatant & easily-visible proofs of the earth's curvature there is.

LOL!!!

Let us examine the term 'over the horizon communications'; because that is what chemtrails facilitate.

Note the word 'OVER'...

If there is no horizon, as on the b.s. flat earth, why would OVER the horizon comms be needed?

Plus, if you get to an elevated vantage point, you can WATCH a chemtrailing plane rise up above the horizon, the trail it leaves behind CLEARLY following the curvature exactly as predicted.

I was doing so yesterday, on three occasions; it would be easy to video such an event & post it here...

Yet the lying paedo-things do not.

Now why would that be, I wonder?

LOL!!!

Btw; anyone ever met a 'flat earther' IRL? Because I have not, ever.

Yet the interwebz seem to be full of em...

Psyop detected!

A psyop to detract from space/satellite fraud, chemtrails, & associate any 'truther' with the worst kind of nonsense imaginable...

& shit like the trans pacific trade pact too; lotsa Aussie shills active here, helping sell their country to the jackals like the treacherous paedos they are.

My grandpa would have shot such types on sight & thrown their corpse in a shell-hole...

But that's another story.

Like I say, I'm bored with this place now; I know who you all are, who you work for & why.

Not much more to do except rag on your vile selves & point out how dumb & corrupt you are...

Toodle-pip, scum of the earth!

Just to add; on the day that all the chemtrailing was going on there were normal planes flying at the same speed & altitude as the chemplanes but leaving ordinary contrails.

This is easily Observed on most days of heavy chemtrailing.

So you really need to drop this 'persistent contrail' b.s.

Telling people they are not seeing something that they are directly Observing makes you come over like the Thought-Gestapo...

LOL!!!

You do that anyway...

Toodle-pip, Ministry of Truthers!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 08:56:35 AM
And how could you tell just using your eyes that they were at the same altitude?

LOL!!!

What else am I supposed to use?

My ears?

My nose?

You idiot.
ad hominem noted.  You just can't post without doing that can you?
The point is that you CAN'T determine the altitude of an aircraft with just your eyes.  You have to use RADAR, comparison to another aircraft with a known altitude (less reliable), or a tracking website.  So your observation that planes leaving trails and others that weren't were at the same altitude is bogus.

And just stop with your 'persistent contrails' bullshit.
Not bullshit.  Persistent contrails can and do exist.  They are simply cirrus clouds.  When conditions are right for cirrus clouds to exist then so will persistent contrails at or near that same altitude.

I grew up in a family of military pilots, near airbases, remember?
How would I remember that?  When and where was it posted?

They were actually flying over Europe in the winter of 1945, so stick your misleading photos up your disinfo-arse.
Prove they are disinfo.  I posted photos from years past of persistent contrails directly refuting YOUR bullshit that they only started in the 90's.  IIRC I also posted links to newspaper articles from the 40's, 50's, and 70's describing persistent contrails.  How exactly is that disinfo?

And you never answered these questions. 

And are you really basing your determination of whether something is a contrail or "chemtrail" on its persistence?  Do you believe persistent contrails can't exist?


http://contrailscience.com/why-do-some-planes-leave-long-trails-but-others-dont/ (http://contrailscience.com/why-do-some-planes-leave-long-trails-but-others-dont/)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 09:24:00 AM
The point is that you CAN'T determine the altitude of an aircraft with just your eyes.

*Yawn!*

You CAN determine whether two airplanes in close proximity are flying at the same altitude though.

Very easily in fact.

Which is what I actually said, you disgusting disinfo-filth.

And yes, you will get an ad hom every time I bother replying to you & you will like it.

Because you will have deserved the ad hom.

Because you are disinfo-filth.

You just proved that by trying to twist my words into something I never said...

Didn't you, disinfo-filth?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 09:35:49 AM
The point is that you CAN'T determine the altitude of an aircraft with just your eyes.

*Yawn!*

You CAN determine whether two airplanes in close proximity are flying at the same altitude though.

Very easily in fact.
Wrong.
Check out this link (I know you won't but there is evidence there proving your assertion wrong whether you like it or not)
http://contrailscience.com/why-do-some-planes-leave-long-trails-but-others-dont/ (http://contrailscience.com/why-do-some-planes-leave-long-trails-but-others-dont/)

Which is what I actually said, you disgusting disinfo-filth.
And it is still wrong.

You just proved that by trying to twist my words into something I never said...

I twisted nothing.  I asked how you could tell using only your eyes that they were at the same altitude.  You rudely responded because you were apparently unaware that it isn't possible to determine two planes are at the same altitude without some other reference.  I also said "your observation that planes leaving trails and others that weren't were at the same altitude is bogus" leaving the context of your statement. I even posted a link backing up what I said.  Notice I also said that one way to determine altitude is comparison to another aircraft at a known altitude but in parentheses (less reliable).  It is less reliable because two identical aircraft can be separated by thousands of feet and still appear the same. If they are not identical aircraft then it is even harder because they can be vastly different sizes but still look similar.  It is explained fully in the link I posted.

By quoting only my first sentence YOU removed my context where I WAS responding to your assertion that you were comparing aircraft near each other.  YOU twisted my words.

Nothing I posted is disinfo.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 09:50:55 AM
it isn't possible to determine two planes are at the same altitude without some other reference.

LOL!!!

You really should tell that to the pilots in my family.

Because they did it all the time & their lives depended on them getting it right.

One of them was a Wing Commander in the Pathfinders; are you calling him a Liar?

He also took part in the original operations using aluminium strips for radar-wave reflection...

They called it 'window'.

I'd like to hear you tell him about your 'persistent contrails' too...

He'd laugh right in your rotten lying face.

You really are disgusting disinfo-filth, aren't you?

I mean, what are the chances an ex-military radar operator would be hanging round a flat earth forum just waiting to gatekeep this very subject?

How dumb do you think I am?

You filthy, traitorous little scumbag.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: 29silhouette on February 12, 2016, 09:58:06 AM
The purpose of a 'conspiracy theorists' tinfoil hat is allegedly to Reflect Radio Waves.

Tinfoil is made of Aluminium.

Interestingly, the main ingredient of Chemtrails - which only retards & paid shills cannot see - is also Aluminium...

Along with Barium.

Is there any history of Aluminium & Barium being aerosolised in the upper atmosphere to enhance radio wave reflectivity?

Why yes - there are plenty!

'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?

It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

LOL!!!

Tinfoil hats on everyone; watch the shills assemble!

theEngineer will help out, I'm sure; he LOVES his space-fraud; he's a real, live rokkit enjynerr you know!

Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...
Four pages and you have been unable to post any real proof regarding aluminum foil.  This is disappointing and unacceptable.  You have failed.

Here is all the proof one needs.

 (http://)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 10:03:11 AM
it isn't possible to determine two planes are at the same altitude without some other reference.

LOL!!!

You really should tell that to the pilots in my family.

Because they did it all the time & their lives depended on them getting it right.

One of them was a Wing Commander in the Pathfinders; are you calling him a Liar?
And I'll bet he knew the types of planes and therefore HAD that other reference, didn't he?  As I mentioned, if the planes are identical then relative size can be used but can still be off by a few thousand feet.  And thanks for proving you didn't bother to look at the link provided. 

He also took part in the original operations using aluminium strips for radar-wave reflection...

They called it 'window'.
Good for him.  I'll bet it looked NOTHING like what you think "chemtrails" look like.

I'd like to hear you tell him about your 'persistent contrails' too...

He'd laugh right in your rotten lying face.
Then that would only prove he's not a pilot or he would know that contrails can be persistent.

I mean, what are the chances an ex-military radar operator would be hanging round a flat earth forum just waiting to gatekeep this very subject?
I wasn't a radar operator.  I was an Air Battle Manager.  I provided tactical control using RADAR but I was not the operator.
As for why I'm here, as I've mentioned in other thread, I'm here because this place is entertaining.

And you avoided the questions yet again.
And are you really basing your determination of whether something is a contrail or "chemtrail" on its persistence?  Do you believe persistent contrails can't exist?

And just for good measure, here are all the other questions just from this thread that you can't answer.
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 10:14:02 AM
And I'll bet he knew the types of planes and therefore HAD that other reference, didn't he?

Yes.

And I knew the types of plane I was looking at & therefore ALSO had that other reference, didn't I?

You revolting, word-twisting, lying filth.

But that's enough of you denigrating the men who won the war to keep scumbag disinfo-filth like you free only for you to stab them in the back by Lying to their descendants.

Everyone here now knows what a repugnant, parasitic & cowardly specimen you are.

But keep digging your hole if you like?

Toodle-pip, Traitor!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 10:20:15 AM
And I'll bet he knew the types of planes and therefore HAD that other reference, didn't he?

Yes.

And I knew the types of plane I was looking at & therefore ALSO had that other reference, didn't I?
Sure you did.  Thanks for proving AGAIN that you didn't look at the link provided or you'd realize that large aircraft of various sizes look very similar from a distance.  But even IF true then they could STILL have been a few thousand feet apart. And even a few feet could be the difference between persistent and non-persistent contrails.  Even at the same altitude if they are using different engines one could have contrails and another could not.  Again, all covered in that link you refuse to read.

snip useless rant
Careful, you don't want to have a meltdown.
I've lied to nobody and twisted nothing.

And you avoided the questions yet again.
And are you really basing your determination of whether something is a contrail or "chemtrail" on its persistence?  Do you believe persistent contrails can't exist?

And just for good measure, here are all the other questions just from this thread that you can't answer.
Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 10:45:25 AM
We're done for the day, scumbag, so stick your tl;dr disinfo-spam up your arse.

If you think calling decorated war heroes Liars has won you any converts to your disinfo-agenda then you are very, very wrong.

Every single neutral reader of this thread will be hating your guts right now.

Chemtrails are sprayed to enhance troposcatter: FACT.

Because 'comms satellites' do not exist: FACT.

Everyone with any technical & historical knowledge knows this.

Now fuck off back into your rancid disinfo-hole, traitor to humanity.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 10:50:02 AM
We're done for the day, scumbag, so stick your tl;dr disinfo-spam up your arse.
Prove anything I've said is disinfo.

If you think calling decorated war heroes Liars has won you any converts to your disinfo-agenda then you are very, very wrong.
I called nobody a liar.  Please actually read.

Every single neutral reader of this thread will be hating your guts right now.
so you say.

Chemtrails are sprayed to enhance troposcatter: FACT.
Prove they exist first and then prove their contents.  You have done neither:  FACT
Chaff and other material that have been used to reflect signals looks NOTHING like mythical "chemtrails": FACT

Because 'comms satellites' do not exist: FACT.
If only you could prove that.  This proposal would be useless for precision location because your proposed reflection layer is not stationary: FACT
Interesting how "chemtrailers" can't even agree on their supposed purpose:  FACT

Everyone with any technical & historical knowledge knows this.
Prove this too.  I'll bet you can't and won't even try.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 11:01:02 AM
You just have to keep replying don't you?

I'm not reading your swill & neither will any neutral after your slander of the men who won WW2.

So why do you do it?

Because you are disinfo-filth & are paid to do so, that's why.

You should be shot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 11:12:47 AM
You just have to keep replying don't you?

I'm not reading your swill & neither will any neutral after your slander of the men who won WW2.
Thank you for proving AGAIN that  you didn't read what I wrote.  I slandered no-one and I called nobody a liar.

So why do you do it?

Because you are disinfo-filth & are paid to do so, that's why.

You should be shot.
Prove it.  Prove I'm paid to post ANYTHING, ANYWHERE.  I'll bet you can't.
I am not paid to post here or anywhere else.  I have not posted ANYTHING that is a lie or disinfo.  I HAVE asked you to prove your claims and you have refused multiple times.

Keep up the humor!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 11:15:15 AM
You just have to keep replying don't you?

I'm not reading your swill & neither will any neutral after your slander of the men who won WW2.

So why do you do it?

Because you are disinfo-filth & are paid to do so, that's why.

You should be shot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 12, 2016, 11:25:58 AM
Interesting how he said he was done for the day and replied twice more, isn't it?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 11:32:07 AM
You just have to keep replying don't you?

I'm not reading your swill & neither will any neutral after your slander of the men who won WW2.

So why do you do it?

Because you are disinfo-filth & are paid to do so, that's why.

You should be shot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Andromeda Galaxy on February 12, 2016, 12:06:00 PM
No winners in war  :-\
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: 29silhouette on February 12, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
Interesting how he said he was done for the day and replied twice more, isn't it?
Truly he is an angry elf.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 12, 2016, 02:38:54 PM
We're done for the day, scumbag, so stick your tl;dr disinfo-spam up your arse.

If you think calling decorated war heroes Liars has won you any converts to your disinfo-agenda then you are very, very wrong.

Every single neutral reader of this thread will be hating your guts right now.

Chemtrails are sprayed to enhance troposcatter: FACT.

Because 'comms satellites' do not exist: FACT.

Everyone with any technical & historical knowledge knows this.

Now fuck off back into your rancid disinfo-hole, traitor to humanity.

Wow,  nice meltdown,  the little voodoo troll must be all tuckered out.   

Comms satellites are real,   and  contrails don't reflect radio signals.   Poor little bugger gets everything arse backwards.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 08:16:48 PM
Comms satellites are real,   and  contrails don't reflect radio signals.

Only a retard thinks satellites are real.

And chemtrails aren't contrails.

Only a retard could confuse the two.

Poor little Homie Rayzor spends 16-hour shifts everyday Lying on the internet for a living.

Poor little Homie Rayzor is part of a boiler-room disinfo-operation run mainly out of Australia, Canada & the UK, to help render them immune from stricter US Laws in the event they get caught.

This boiler-room plays both sides off against each other in order to Control The Opposition.

This boiler-room is responsible for the work of Jon Le Bon, Nesta Lediam, Psyopticon, Evil Edna, ICFreely & a vast number of other water-muddying disinfo-swill.

They completely run the 'Fakeologist' fake 'truther' site.

If you want to know how such moral degenerates are recruited, google 'Operation Ore'.

It is a well-known fact that many of the people caught in Operation Ore & its counterparts in other countries were not prosecuted, but were instead blackmailed into doing Government dirty business.

The use of honey-traps & blackmail by intelligence agencies is as old as mankind.

So, next time you are arguing with a paid shill online bear this in mind.

Now; carry on with the psychological pressure tactics you decided to employ against me back in late December when you realised you could not refute me with science or logic and I wasn't going away...

Taking my own words & phrases & 'mirroring' them is one of your main weapons in this.

Hence the words 'poor little', 'meltdown', etc in Homie Rayzor's sociopathic disinfo-post.

Like I said though; I know what you are, Homie Rayzor...

Now everyone else does too.

Toodle-pip, Rolf Harris!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 12, 2016, 09:41:41 PM
Comms satellites are real,   and  contrails don't reflect radio signals.

Only a retard thinks satellites are real.

Umm,  I've designed satellite ground station systems.  They are real,  I wouldn't get paid if they don't work.  Sorry to burst you little conspiracy bubble.

And chemtrails aren't contrails.

Only a retard could confuse the two.

True, one is real, the other is an internet conspiracy. 

Poor little Homie Rayzor spends 16-hour shifts everyday Lying on the internet for a living.

Poor little Homie Rayzor is part of a boiler-room disinfo-operation run mainly out of Australia, Canada & the UK, to help render them immune from stricter US Laws in the event they get caught.

This boiler-room plays both sides off against each other in order to Control The Opposition.

This boiler-room is responsible for the work of Jon Le Bon, Nesta Lediam, Psyopticon, Evil Edna, ICFreely & a vast number of other water-muddying disinfo-swill.


Wow,  can I sense another tantrum coming...    "boiler-room disinfo-operation"   you really are wallowing in the dregs of the internet memes,   they will rot your brain, and you lose the ability to think rationally.... oh wait.   .........  I think they already did.

Did I mention that chemtrails are a psyop as well...   :)

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 10:47:53 PM
Umm,  I've designed satellite ground station systems.

LOL!!!

Cool story bro...

I guess that's why you now spend 16 hours every day thought-policing a flat earth forum.

And don't deny that you do so; I've timed your shifts.

Did I mention that chemtrails are a psyop as well.

No; but thanks for once again confirming that you know psyops exist.

As well as boiler-room disinfo ops...

For someone who says they don't exist, you're quite the expert on conspiracies, aintcha?

However, chemtrails are real & no government would spend billions on them just to scare a handful of people.

Only a disinfo-tard like you would claim so.

The psyop element of chemtrails is the whole 'global warming/geo-engineering/SRM' scam.

That way they can reap back the costs; neat eh?

It's all very simple once you know the basics...

Plus, you completely ignored my point about Operation Ore & blackmail; brought back too many painful memories, eh?

LOL!!!

See you later, man-whose-life-ended-when-he-clicked-the-wrong-button-on-a-dodgy-website!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 12, 2016, 10:58:38 PM
Umm,  I've designed satellite ground station systems.

LOL!!!

Cool story bro...

I guess that's why you now spend 16 hours every day thought-policing a flat earth forum.

And don't deny that you do so; I've timed your shifts.

Did I mention that chemtrails are a psyop as well.

No; but thanks for once again confirming that you know psyops exist.

As well as boiler-room disinfo ops...

For someone who says they don't exist, you're quite the expert on conspiracies, aintcha?

However, chemtrails are real & no government would spend billions on them just to scare a handful of people.

Only a disinfo-tard like you would claim so.

The psyop element of chemtrails is the whole 'global warming/geo-engineering/SRM' scam.

That way they can reap back the costs; neat eh?

It's all very simple once you know the basics...

Plus, you completely ignored my point about Operation Ore & blackmail; brought back too many painful memories, eh?

LOL!!!

See you later, man-whose-life-ended-when-he-clicked-the-wrong-button-on-a-dodgy-website!

I googled "operation ore",  it was about child pornography,  and tracking cyber criminals,  how do you think that's relevant to your chemtrail conspiracy?


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 12, 2016, 11:28:37 PM
how do you think that's relevant?

I'm just saying that anyone who spends 16 hours a day lying to strangers on the internet must have a pretty strong motivation to do so.

Any conclusions neutrals reach as to these motivations & whether they apply to anyone here are up to them.

But it is a fact that many of those caught in Operation Ore were not prosecuted.

Especially those in useful positions such as magistrates, councillors, teachers, scientists, etc...

A friend of mine resigned in disgust over it & the police she liaised with almost followed suit.

See below, which you somehow missed, Homie Rayzor:

If you want to know how such moral degenerates are recruited, google 'Operation Ore'.

It is a well-known fact that many of the people caught in Operation Ore & its counterparts in other countries were not prosecuted, but were instead blackmailed into doing Government dirty business.

The use of honey-traps & blackmail by intelligence agencies is as old as mankind.

So, next time you are arguing with a paid shill online bear this in mind.

Now; you allegedly designed satellite systems; you saw the shuttle take off; you visited CERN with your sons only last year; you seem to have degrees in everything...

Yet here you are, Homie Rayzor, Lying to strangers & having the piss ripped out of you for 16 hours every single day of your miserable life.

What is your motivation for doing so?

LOL!!!

I told you I don't give a damn about this place any more, Homie Rayzor; I got all the intel I need now...

So I'm just gonna tell people how it is.

Which is bad news for you & your suitably motivated boiler-room disinfo pals.

Toodle-pip, Mr. Motivator!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 13, 2016, 12:42:11 AM

I told you I don't give a damn about this place any more, Homie Rayzor; I got all the intel I need now...


Oh good,  goodbye!   Don't let the door hit your fat arse on the way out.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 13, 2016, 12:56:07 PM
This is post 19.

& LOL!!!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 13, 2016, 01:03:05 PM
I think it may be time to discuss CEP.

If tehEnjynerr is what he claims to be he should be a veritable fount of knowledge on this subject...

Thus, I shall await his descent from his lofty Olympus to enlighten us all.

Starting with some historical perspective, I hope?

LOL!!!

Nah; I'll make you all sweat a bit first, then lay it out for you idiots later...

Toodle-pip, disinfo-tards; don't forget to tell ALL your neighbours & workmates that teh erf iz flatt1!1!!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 14, 2016, 12:53:19 PM
So: CEP.

No takers yet?

Interesting...

Informative...

Incriminating...

I'm enjoying this thread; neutrals should read it from the start for lulz & education.

See.

Ee.

Pee.

CEP.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on February 15, 2016, 01:09:53 AM
Nah; I'll make you all sweat a bit first, then lay it out for you idiots later...

YOU will "make you all sweat a bit first"! What a laugh?
Do you think any of us care in the slightest what comes out of that pile of spaghetti that vainly tries to think for you!
The only reason I might sweat a bit is that it's summer and our most humid month.

I only pop into your threads occasionally for some light relief what real life gets too complicated.

Ever thought of taking up writing horror fantasy stories! You might make a killing.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 15, 2016, 08:18:16 AM
NO U!!!

Thank you for your valueless contribution.

You clearly don't know about the relevance of CEP to the chemtrail programme that markjo & Rayzor (i.e. YOU, Geoff) have already admitted exists, so why post?

Blackmail is a terrible thing, Geoff; I feel for you...

LOL!!!

No I don't; serves you right, Dangerous Dumbass Dingo!

 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on February 15, 2016, 10:34:44 AM
What exactly does CEP stand for?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on February 15, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
What exactly does CEP stand for?
Chemtrail Emitting Plane?

Completely Evil Plot?

Confusing Environmental Policies?

Chemically Enhanced Paranoia?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 15, 2016, 11:52:47 AM
What exactly does CEP stand for?

You should ask your fraudulent frenemy tehEnjynerr; it's basically what the job he claims to have is all about.

Yet we have heard nothing from him on the subject...

I wonder why?

And it has a LOT to do with chemtrails...

If you were familiar with the works of Alexander Seversky & had family who were in Bomber Command you might know this.

But you don't; and thus you flounder.

It's not hard to see...

Once you understand the basics the jigsaw pieces all fall into place.

This is a funny game!

Toodle-pip, out-of-the-loop disinfo-things!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on February 15, 2016, 02:48:21 PM
So

Cheap or Expensive Prostitutes?

Just say what it is.


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 15, 2016, 03:52:49 PM
So

Cheap or Expensive Prostitutes?

Just say what it is.

Ignore the little creep he's just trolling.   Now if it was CIP,  it might be interesting.  :)  I got a lead on an ICP-OES machine the other day,  but I'm still looking for ICP-MS,  any thoughts on what gives better results.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on February 15, 2016, 04:08:37 PM
So

Cheap or Expensive Prostitutes?

Just say what it is.

Ignore the little creep he's just trolling.   Now if it was CIP,  it might be interesting.  :)  I got a lead on an ICP-OES machine the other day,  but I'm still looking for ICP-MS,  any thoughts on what gives better results.
ICP-MS has a much lower detection limit but they are harder to run and maintain. It would really depend on what detection limit you are looking for and what elements you want to analyze for.  A quick "rule of thumb" if you want to call it that is ICP-OES will do PPM and ICP-MS will do PPB but there are many factors that wiil change this.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 15, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
ICP-MS has a much lower detection limit but they are harder to run and maintain. It would really depend on what detection limit you are looking for and what elements you want to analyze for.  A quick "rule of thumb" if you want to call it that is ICP-OES will do PPM and ICP-MS will do PPB but there are many factors that wiil change this.

Good point,  I should look more closely at  on-going maintenance and operating costs.   Thanks for the tip.   

...  Normal  programming  trolling can now resume.   I wonder what lab did the dodgy chemtrail/rainwater analysis?



Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on February 15, 2016, 06:44:36 PM
NO U!!!
Thank you for your valueless contribution.
You clearly don't know about the relevance of CEP to the chemtrail programme that markjo & Rayzor (i.e. YOU, Geoff) have already admitted exists, so why post?
Blackmail is a terrible thing, Geoff; I feel for you...
LOL!!!
No I don't; serves you right, Dangerous Dumbass Dingo!
Thank you for your all of your valueless contributions.
"So why post?" - just possibly because:
Carry on with the comedy show - thinking of doing it live soon?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 15, 2016, 07:10:16 PM
Psychopaths do not have a sense of humour.

Or any other emotions to speak of...

They just 'mirror' the behaviour & words of others to try & fit in.

Evidence: the above 5 posts.

One of the psychopaths even accused me of trolling my own thread whilst attempting to troll me with his psychopath fail-humour.

But I seem to be interrupting their psychopath circle-jerk; they're trying to learn to be human, you know!

Aaw; cute!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 17, 2016, 12:07:18 AM
Still struggling with CEP?

Not read the works of Seversky yet?

Everyone who matters has; he's been very influential indeed where it counts.

Okay; here's a clue from an earlier post:

Simple proof for what I say; search for 'grid chemtrails' on google images.

The checker-board pattern ones.

Then correlate the locations of the images with known air force bases & weapons testing areas.

Look out for DRONE bases & testing especially...

Bingo!

It ain't hard to work out...

Unless you're paid not to.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 19, 2016, 10:03:17 AM
So...

CEP.

Grid chemtrails.

Drone testing areas.

GPS.

Alexander Seversky.

Put the pieces together yet?

Want another clue?

Ok; the V1 missile.

Big warhead, cheap as chips to produce & a bastard to intercept...

Not very accurate though.

How to improve that accuracy?

How to improve that guidance system?

Getting the picture yet, retards?

CEP...

Big Deal to the people that count.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 19, 2016, 11:45:41 AM
I think that chem trails are real.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 23, 2016, 01:28:23 PM
Let's keep creating forum slides!

First, google Circular Error Probability (or Circular Error Probable; same thing).

Note how it relates to the accurate delivery of bombs etc...

Then read the below:

So...

CEP.

Grid chemtrails.

Drone testing areas.

GPS.

Alexander Seversky.

Put the pieces together yet?

Want another clue?

Ok; the V1 missile.

Big warhead, cheap as chips to produce & a bastard to intercept...

Not very accurate though.

How to improve that accuracy?

How to improve that guidance system?

Getting the picture yet, retards?

CEP...

Big Deal to the people that count.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 23, 2016, 01:34:38 PM
Let's keep creating forum slides!

First, google Circular Error Probability (or Circular Error Probable; same thing).

Note how it relates to the accurate delivery of bombs etc...

Then read the below:

So...

CEP.

Grid chemtrails.

Drone testing areas.

GPS.

Alexander Seversky.

Put the pieces together yet?

Want another clue?

Ok; the V1 missile.

Big warhead, cheap as chips to produce & a bastard to intercept...

Not very accurate though.

How to improve that accuracy?

How to improve that guidance system?

Getting the picture yet, retards?

CEP...

Big Deal to the people that count.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 23, 2016, 01:45:27 PM
Would you stop? You're spamming. I agree that chem trails exists and that they have bad affects on the human population.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Dog on February 23, 2016, 03:28:07 PM
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Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 23, 2016, 10:11:26 PM
The idea that chemtrails are poisonous is fear-porn & part of the disinfo campaign surrounding them.

This is the only thread on the internet telling you anything close to the truth about them.

And I'm the only person contributing that truth.

Anyhoo; let's keep creating forum slides!

First, google Circular Error Probability (or Circular Error Probable; same thing).

Note how it relates to the accurate delivery of bombs etc...

Then read the below:

So...

CEP.

Grid chemtrails.

Drone testing areas.

GPS.

Alexander Seversky.

Put the pieces together yet?

Want another clue?

Ok; the V1 missile.

Big warhead, cheap as chips to produce & a bastard to intercept...

Not very accurate though.

How to improve that accuracy?

How to improve that guidance system?

Getting the picture yet, retards?

CEP...

Big Deal to the people that count.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Dog on February 23, 2016, 10:41:41 PM
Except for the part where chemtrail effects as they are purported are not physically possible. I'll do some quick back-of-the-napkin calculations:

- Take into account the volume of the atmosphere over a given area, say 100 square km with a ceiling of 10 km (below cruising altitude). Not very much area, less than 1/10th of downtown New York City. At cruising speed, an airliner can cover that in about 30 seconds. Well it turns out to be 914,400,000,000 m3. Let that sink in. Almost a trillion cubic meters.

- Let's just assume an airline is okay totally wasting profits and efficiency by packing an aircraft with "chemicals" instead of cargo/passengers. A Boeing 777 freighter (a very large plane) can carry 653 m3 of cargo. For fun, we'll pack the wings with chemicals too (another 182 m3). So now we have a large airliner with 835 m3 of "chemicals", and no fuel.

- Now imagine that fuel-less freighter flying over that smallish area and dispersing all of it. All 853 m3 in 30 seconds. Should be pretty effective right? Well in this scenario, the density of chemicals in that section of atmosphere would be:

(853/914400)
0.0009 parts per million m3

or

((853/914400000000)x100)
0.00000009% of that 914400000000 m3

.
.
.
.

I'll let you conclude for yourself.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 02:18:36 AM
Except for the part where chemtrail effects as they are purported are not physically possible.

They wouldn't do it if it did not work as intended.

Ergo your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.


They don't do it.   Chemtrails are an internet myth.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 02:23:02 AM
LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

^Psychopathic Liar telling psychopathic Lies..

^For example, that we cannot see things that are clearly there.

^Also very butthurt I exposed his ICfreely character on Cluesforum as a shill.

^lol.

Except for the part where chemtrail effects as they are purported are not physically possible.

They wouldn't do it if it did not work as intended.

Ergo your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

Quote from: Dog with Daddy Issueslink=topic=65626.msg1761582#msg1761582 date=1456296101
I'll let you conclude for yourself.

Just did.

Your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

Especially as they imply chemtrails are intended to saturate a large volume of atmosphere, rather than spread as a very thin layer at a specific altitude.

Doubly worthless then...

You also imply it is only airlines doing the spraying, whereas I have observed unmarked cargo planes & possibly even drones doing so.

These are most likely military aircraft.

Trebly worthless now...

Toodle-pip, Worthless Dog!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 02:30:28 AM
^Also very butthurt I exposed his ICfreely character on Cluesforum as a shill.

The jokes on you, I'm not on cluesforum.   Another monster fail! LOL!

Also, what's with accusing everyone of having "Daddy Issues"   are you doing some kind of transference thing.  Where you project your issues onto others?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 02:52:31 AM
^Gaslighting psychopathic liar.

^Edited his post two minutes after my reply.

^Shill Tactics 101.

^Still butthurt about ICfreely.

^lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 02:57:36 AM
^Gaslighting psychopathic liar.

^Edited his post two minutes after my reply.

^Shill Tactics 101.

^Still butthurt about ICfreely.

^lol.

The jokes still on you,  I don't  edit other peoples quotes and change names,  that's  gaslighting
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 03:44:03 AM
^More classic gaslighting techniques.

^Still not working.

^lol.

Chemtrails are an internet myth.

^Psychopathic Lie.

^No-one believes it.

^lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 03:47:08 AM
^More classic gaslighting techniques.

^Still not working.

^lol.

Chemtrails are an internet myth.

^Psychopathic Lie.

^No-one believes it.

^lol.

The only place chemtrails exist is in the minds of a tiny number of internet conspiracy nutters.   That's you, in case you were wondering.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 03:50:30 AM
I don't  edit other peoples quotes and change names,  that's  gaslighting

^lol.

The only place chemtrails exist is in the minds of a tiny number of internet conspiracy nutters.   That's you, in case you were wondering.

^Needs a tissue.

^lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 03:54:15 AM
I don't  edit other peoples quotes and change names,  that's  gaslighting

^lol.

The only place chemtrails exist is in the minds of a tiny number of internet conspiracy nutters.   That's you, in case you were wondering.

^Needs a tissue.

^lol.

^baiting again by the master.
^lol

While we are having this intellectual discourse, do you happen to have any proof that chemtrails are what you claim.   I could use a laugh.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 04:01:13 AM
do you happen to have any proof that chemtrails are what you claim.

What, the chemtrails you just told us don't exist?

LMFAO!!!

I could use a laugh.

You just gave us a beauty; what a Clown you are!

Toodle-Pip, Lolcow!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 04:09:37 AM
do you happen to have any proof that chemtrails are what you claim.

What, the chemtrails you just told us don't exist?

LMFAO!!!

I could use a laugh.

You just gave us a beauty; what a Clown you are!

Toodle-Pip, Lolcow!

If they don't exist how can they be what you claim.   That's dumb even by your low standards.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 12:32:53 PM
 This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 24, 2016, 12:37:30 PM
I wish I was an ex-forces/radar.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 12:42:00 PM
You saw trails over some surveying and ASSUMED it was related but you have no proof.   ::)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Dog on February 24, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

Especially as they imply chemtrails are intended to saturate a large volume of atmosphere, rather than spread as a very thin layer at a specific altitude.

...whereas I have observed unmarked cargo planes & possibly even drones doing so.

1. Where did I copy them from? I'd love to see the source.

2. Explain how it is physically possible to spread a "thin layer" of chemicals. Even if it was possible, it would still disperse and you'd end up with a minuscule concentration again.

3. I literally just showed you how a giant aircraft filled to the brim (even the fuel tanks) with chemicals would have virtually no impact after spraying a small area. So yeah, good luck with that claim.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Rama Set on February 24, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
Your copy-pasta 'calculations' are worthless.

Especially as they imply chemtrails are intended to saturate a large volume of atmosphere, rather than spread as a very thin layer at a specific altitude.

...whereas I have observed unmarked cargo planes & possibly even drones doing so.

Who cares if he copied them?  Math is correct whether it is plagiarized or not.

Deal with the substance of the claim Papa.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 01:01:27 PM
You saw trails over some surveying and ASSUMED it was related but you have no proof.

Yeah, right; in fact the Red Arrows were doing a low-level close-formation display to entertain the surveyors.

Idiot.

I wish I was an ex-forces/radar.

^Cannon-fodder.

1. Where did I copy them from? I'd love to see the source.

Sorry I don't have access to the 'Chemtrail Shill Handbook'.

As for the rest of your bullshit; you showed me nothing except copy-pasta...

Bit slow, aintcha, Jihadi Jane?

Who cares if he copied them?

SHE just said SHE didn't copy them...

And bullshit is bullshit whoever spams it.

You lot are useless aintcha?

My uncle took part in the first operational use of this tech; they been refining it ever since...

So don't tell me it don't exist, okay?

And if you keep pissing me off I'll start on other fake weapons technologies; so cool it, retards.

Or don't; it's all good!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 01:05:07 PM
You saw trails over some surveying and ASSUMED it was related but you have no proof.

Yeah, right; in fact the Red Arrows were doing a low-level close-formation display to entertain the surveyors.

Or they were normal contrails.  You never answered before how you knew they were "greasy" or low altitude.  And you still have no proof they were there for the surveying.  Did the surveyors tell you the trails were for them?  Did you see them talking to the pilots on the radio saying "a little more to the East?"  Do you have ANYTHING that actually links the trails to the surveyors?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 01:09:36 PM
You just don't listen, do you?

I don't THINK I know what chemtrails are; I KNOW I know what chemtrails are.

You should just STFU & leave me alone; really, you should.

Read & Learn:

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 01:13:31 PM
You just don't listen, do you?

I don't THINK I know what chemtrails are; I KNOW I know what chemtrails are.

You should just STFU & leave me alone; really, you should.

Read & Learn:

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.
You think you know but you have yet to show any proof they contain what you say they do. 

Are you basing your determination of whether something is a contrail or "chemtrail" on its persistence?  Do you believe persistent contrails can't exist?

Why are you assuming the trails had anything to do with the surveyors?  How did you determine the altitude?  How did you know they were "greasy"?

Any proof of your previous claim that these trails contain aluminum and/or barium?

How about your claim in another thread that I claimed to be a non-native English speaker?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
^Don't need to do any of that.

This is not a debate.

This is me telling you how it is.

You REALLY need to understand that, slimeball.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 01:24:35 PM
^Don't need to do any of that.

This is not a debate.

This is me telling you how it is.

You REALLY need to understand that, slimeball.
Why should anyone believe you when you've offered no proof and can't seem to make a single post without including an insult?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 01:28:04 PM
Really need to be talking to your controller, disinfo-thing...

Getting in too deep.

First, google Circular Error Probability (or Circular Error Probable; same thing).

Note how it relates to the accurate delivery of bombs etc...

Then read the below:

So...

CEP.

Grid chemtrails.

Drone testing areas.

GPS.

Alexander Seversky.

Put the pieces together yet?

Want another clue?

Ok; the V1 missile.

Big warhead, cheap as chips to produce & a bastard to intercept...

Not very accurate though.

How to improve that accuracy?

How to improve that guidance system?

Getting the picture yet, retards?

CEP...

Big Deal to the people that count.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 01:33:01 PM
So you can't answer why anyone should believe you.  Thought so.

By the way, still have no controller, have posted no disinfo and am not paid to post here or anywhere else.  If you have proof for any of your accusations, please post it  but I know you won't.

I know what circular error of probability is and even PM'd the definition of CEP to another poster that asked long before you gave the definition in thread.  But, like all of your other claims, you've offered no proof it has anything to do with the trails you're seeing in the sky.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 01:37:03 PM
I know what circular error of probability is and even PM'd the definition of CEP to another poster that asked long before you gave the definition in thread.

The fact that you hid this information, knowing it was relevant, is conclusive proof of your intellectual dishonesty.

You are a shill & you are shit at your job.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 01:38:50 PM
I know what circular error of probability is and even PM'd the definition of CEP to another poster that asked long before you gave the definition in thread.

The fact that you hid this information, knowing it was relevant, is conclusive proof of your intellectual dishonesty.

You are a shill & you are shit at your job.
I hid nothing.  I was waiting for you to prove it is relevant.  I still am.  You have offered no proof of the content of the trails.  You have offered no proof of the purpose of the trails.  You have offered no proof they have a purpose.  And you certainly haven't proven that CEP is relevant.

And again, I am not paid to post here or anywhere else.  Please provide proof if you think otherwise. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 01:40:47 PM
Yep, just shilling away...

You should be shot, you know?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 24, 2016, 01:43:44 PM
On Papa's behalf I've decided to give you guys evidence.

http://rense.com/general11/chemtrailproveit.htm (http://rense.com/general11/chemtrailproveit.htm)

http://www.chemtrails911.com/supporting_evidence.htm (http://www.chemtrails911.com/supporting_evidence.htm)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 01:44:17 PM
Yep, just shilling away...

how is pointing out that you haven't provided proof of a single claim you've made in thread shilling?

You should be shot, you know?
Is that a threat?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 24, 2016, 01:51:51 PM
Yep, just shilling away...

how is pointing out that you haven't provided proof of a single claim you've made in thread shilling?

You should be shot, you know?
Is that a threat?

Yes in my opinion.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 01:52:55 PM
Everyone knows chemtrails exist ffs.

When air-traffic increases by 600% over my house & every single one of the extra planes is leaving criss-crossed smoke-trails behind them it's kinda obvious, you know?

And when some dumbass semi-spook like frenat hounds me just for noticing this obvious thing it just makes it even more obvious.

He is so shit at his job.

Listen to him ffs:

You should be shot, you know?
Is that a threat?

No, it's a Fact; that's what happens to traitors.

You hate Facts don't you; mainly because you're a traitor & should be shot, I guess?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 24, 2016, 01:57:50 PM
Everyone knows chemtrails exist ffs.

When air-traffic increases by 600% over my house & every single one of the extra planes is leaving criss-crossed smoke-trails behind them it's kinda obvious, you know?

And when some dumbass semi-spook like frenat hounds me just for noticing this obvious thing it just makes it even more obvious.

He is so shit at his job.

Listen to him ffs:

You should be shot, you know?
Is that a threat?

No, it's a Fact; that's what happens to traitors.

You hate Facts don't you; mainly because you're a traitor & should be shot, I guess?
What proof you have that he's a traitor or even lives in the USA?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on February 24, 2016, 02:05:28 PM
Everyone knows chemtrails exist ffs.

When air-traffic increases by 600% over my house & every single one of the extra planes is leaving criss-crossed smoke-trails behind them it's kinda obvious, you know?
I know air traffic in general has increased, and engines have changed making them far more efficient than they used to be, and that they fly higher on average than they used to, all contributing to an increase of contrails and persistent contrails.  I've seen no actual proof that "chemtrails" exist.  And you certainly haven't provided any.

And when some dumbass semi-spook like frenat hounds me just for noticing this obvious thing it just makes it even more obvious.
I'm sure you've noticed an increase in contrails but you haven't proven they are anything more than that.

He is so shit at his job.
Still not my job.
Listen to him ffs:

You should be shot, you know?
Is that a threat?

No, it's a Fact; that's what happens to traitors.

You hate Facts don't you; mainly because you're a traitor & should be shot, I guess?
You've yet to provide any facts.  Facts would be backed up with evidence and you seem to be allergic to providing that.  Why is that?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 24, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
^Cannon fodder.

^cant give evidence.

^childishly name calling.

^wont give reasons why he called someone a traitor.

^doesnt make sense when you say my post is cannon fodder.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 05:12:33 PM
Everyone knows chemtrails exist ffs.

Nope, only you, and you don't count.  The rest is all internet psyop. 


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 08:18:38 PM
YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE! I DEMAND IMPOSSIBLE PROOFS! I AM NOT DISINFO! I AM JUST A NORMAL PERSON WHO CHOOSES TO SPEND ALL HIS TIME THOUGHT-POLICING A FLAT EARTH SOCIETY!

^lol no.

The rest is all internet psyop. 

^Crank who knows everything about every conspiracy theory ever but doesn't believe any of them.

^Says he's been everywhere & done everything but now also chooses to spend all his time thought-policing flat earth forums.

^Shit at his job.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on February 24, 2016, 08:27:41 PM
Clouds are not chemtrails. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on February 24, 2016, 08:35:42 PM
Clouds are not chemtrails.
Incorrect.  Chemtrails contain dihydrogen monoxide, a chemical known to be extremely dangerous.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 08:42:11 PM

Why do they keep that secret? Is it to cover for their lack of satellites?
 Is that shit aluminum? I hear on the net that monsanto has patents on aluminum resistant seeds and plants. Too much aluminum is dangerous is it not?

Firstly, it is almost certainly illegal; a good reason to keep something secret, yes?

Secondly, if your enemies think that your comms system is based around untouchable satellites 20,000+ miles away in space, rather than on a complex & far more vulnerable ground/airplane-based network, it gives you a considerable tactical/strategic advantage does it not?

As to the make-up of the trails, I believe there are at least three different types for differing altitudes & purposes. I am unsure of their exact ingredients, but they likely do not contain pure aluminium/barium & instead consist of some easily-available substance containing these elements in oxide form.

Various industrial waste-products are a strong possibility, especially coal-ash from power stations, which is easily-available & already in the form of a fine ash, thus requiring less processing. Ultimately, it's just fine particulate muck that helps reflect radio waves...

You are correct that aluminium is bad for your health; it causes symptoms similar to alzheimers, which is why the government will not be keen on letting you know they are dumping tons of it on your heads every day.

As for the Monsanto thing, whether this is another red herring or whether they are preparing for the day when areas become so soaked in these substances that such seeds will be needed I do not know. I am aware of their research but have not investigated it in any depth.

I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 08:44:20 PM

Simple proof for what I say; search for 'grid chemtrails' on google images.

The checker-board pattern ones.

Then correlate the locations of the images with known air force bases & weapons testing areas.

Look out for DRONE bases & testing especially...

Bingo!

This is old tech; it's been developed since the 1940s at least.

'Window'; 'Chaff'.

Your 'satellites' are just a load of muck chucked out the back of an aeroplane.

I have more evidence too.

Once you know what you're looking at the pieces fall together easily.

ROTHR radar is lulzy for example, as is HAARP...

Toodle-pip disinfo-scum & fraud-mods!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 09:03:54 PM
Clouds are not chemtrails.
Incorrect.  Chemtrails contain dihydrogen monoxide, a chemical known to be extremely dangerous.

Based on a quick search that one chemical alone was responsible for 372,000 deaths world wide in 2012.   And yet it's in our drinking water and food. FFS!   Wake up Sheeple!!


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 09:06:24 PM
YOU CANNOT SEE WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE! I DEMAND IMPOSSIBLE PROOFS! I AM NOT DISINFO! I AM JUST A NORMAL PERSON WHO CHOOSES TO SPEND ALL HIS TIME THOUGHT-POLICING A FLAT EARTH SOCIETY!

^lol no.

The rest is all internet psyop. 

^Crank who knows everything about every conspiracy theory ever but doesn't believe any of them.

^Says he's been everywhere & done everything but now also chooses to spend all his time thought-policing flat earth forums.

^Shit at his job.

Am I Psychopathic Liar,  Disinfo-Thing or Geoff,   it's hard to keep track of your psychotic ramblings and invisible friends, 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 09:27:18 PM
You're all three.

Funny how you lot show no activity for hours here, but when I show up you all immediately appear, at any time of day or night...

Yeah; funny that.

LOL!!!

You are the most obvious reason there is that all this is bullshit...

You just don't get it, do you?

The Truth needs no Defence; only Lies need that.

And big Lies need big Liars; hence You.

Toodle-pip, Mr. Big!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 24, 2016, 09:39:08 PM
You're all three.

Funny how you lot show no activity for hours here, but when I show up you all immediately appear, at any time of day or night...

Yeah; funny that.

LOL!!!

You are the most obvious reason there is that all this is bullshit...

You just don't get it, do you?

The Truth needs no Defence; only Lies need that.

And big Lies need big Liars; hence You.

Toodle-pip, Mr. Big!

Would now be a good time to ask if you are getting paranoid?    Seems like you are delusional, seeing  "Geoffrey"  everywhere,  and now you think that there is some kind of organization that exists just to post on obscure forums like this, moreover specifically to target know-nothing morons like you.   You really are going slowly insane. 

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 24, 2016, 09:42:50 PM
^Coincidence Theorist.

^Shit at his job.

^Also shit at gaslighting.

^lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Dog on February 25, 2016, 12:12:24 AM
Incorrect.  Chemtrails contain dihydrogen monoxide, a chemical known to be extremely dangerous.

(https://corysinman.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/dihydrogen-monoxide.jpg)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 25, 2016, 01:58:04 AM
^Tragic geek joke.

^Wasn't funny 1st time.

^Still not funny now.

^Tragic geek doesn't realise.

^Lives in sci-fi fantasy world.

^Wants you to too.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 25, 2016, 03:37:52 AM
^Tragic geek joke.

^Wasn't funny 1st time.

^Still not funny now.

^Tragic geek doesn't realise.

^Lives in sci-fi fantasy world.

^Wants you to too.

What?   The key ingredient in your so-called chemtrails is now a "geek joke"   why did you raise the question in the first place?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 25, 2016, 08:11:00 PM
Here's a little convo you & I had earlier, Homie.

Just to remind people what you are really like.

how do you think that's relevant?

I'm just saying that anyone who spends 16 hours a day lying to strangers on the internet must have a pretty strong motivation to do so.

Any conclusions neutrals reach as to these motivations & whether they apply to anyone here are up to them.

But it is a fact that many of those caught in Operation Ore were not prosecuted.

Especially those in useful positions such as magistrates, councillors, teachers, scientists, etc...

A friend of mine resigned in disgust over it & the police she liaised with almost followed suit.

See below, which you somehow missed, Homie Rayzor:

If you want to know how such moral degenerates are recruited, google 'Operation Ore'.

It is a well-known fact that many of the people caught in Operation Ore & its counterparts in other countries were not prosecuted, but were instead blackmailed into doing Government dirty business.

The use of honey-traps & blackmail by intelligence agencies is as old as mankind.

So, next time you are arguing with a paid shill online bear this in mind.

Now; you allegedly designed satellite systems; you saw the shuttle take off; you visited CERN with your sons only last year; you seem to have degrees in everything...

Yet here you are, Homie Rayzor, Lying to strangers & having the piss ripped out of you for 16 hours every single day of your miserable life.

What is your motivation for doing so?

LOL!!!

I told you I don't give a damn about this place any more, Homie Rayzor; I got all the intel I need now...

So I'm just gonna tell people how it is.

Which is bad news for you & your suitably motivated boiler-room disinfo pals.

Toodle-pip, Mr. Motivator!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on February 25, 2016, 08:30:58 PM
He looks normal to me. You on the other hand, look like an idiot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 26, 2016, 11:44:59 AM
Anyhoo; the purpose of a 'conspiracy theorists' tinfoil hat is allegedly to Reflect Radio Waves.

Tinfoil is made of Aluminium.

Interestingly, the main ingredient of Chemtrails - which only retards & paid shills cannot see - is also Aluminium...

Along with Barium.

Is there any history of Aluminium & Barium being aerosolised in the upper atmosphere to enhance radio wave reflectivity?

Why yes - there are plenty!

'Operation Smoke Puff' is one; & guess what?

It was performed shortly before the first 'transcontinental satellite broadcast'...

LOL!!!

Tinfoil hats on everyone; watch the shills assemble!

theEngineer will help out, I'm sure; he LOVES his space-fraud; he's a real, live rokkit enjynerr you know!

Off you go, disinfo-scum; pick the bones out of that...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nexzus on February 26, 2016, 12:10:47 PM
Operation Smoke Puff used potassium.
http://www.google.com/patents/US3052052 (http://www.google.com/patents/US3052052)

It's also interesting. That experiment dispersed the cloud 60 miles up. The atmosphere up there is about 0.0000145 PSI, which is about 1/100000 of sea level. Balloons can't get that high, planes can't get that high, and according to you, rockets don't work at near vacuum. How did it get up there?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 26, 2016, 04:28:40 PM
^Registered today.

^Somehow knows what I said months ago on a locked thread.

^Didn't even read the link he spammed.

^Is wrong anyway.

^Sock puppet perhaps?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Rama Set on February 26, 2016, 05:05:13 PM
^Registered today.

^Somehow knows what I said months ago on a locked thread.

^Didn't even read the link he spammed.

^Is wrong anyway.

^Sock puppet perhaps?

This one is going in Monster fail too.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 26, 2016, 05:10:21 PM
^Didn't even read the link he spammed.

Now that's what I call a monster fail!    Someone posts a link supporting the idiot's ideas, and he thinks he's being spammed.  ROTFLMAO!

Paranoia paralysis.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 26, 2016, 05:14:21 PM
^Sock puppeteer talking about its sock puppeting.

^Also psychopathic liar.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 26, 2016, 06:37:31 PM
^Sock puppeteer talking about its sock puppeting.

^Also psychopathic liar.

^throwing a temper tantrum.

^ won't give evidence.

^acting like a 1st grade child. Apologies to 1st graders.

Look, I'm on your side on chem trails just give evidence for it. Facts trumps preschool debate tactics. Apologies to preschoolers.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 26, 2016, 06:45:02 PM
^Already given all evidence needed.

^Too dumb to understand it.

^Cos lives in sci-fi fantasy world.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on February 26, 2016, 06:47:52 PM
^Already given all evidence needed.

^Too dumb to understand it.

^Cos lives in sci-fi fantasy world.

^citations needed.

^too childish to not name call.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Rama Set on February 26, 2016, 06:48:34 PM
^Already given all evidence needed.

^Too dumb to understand it.

^Cos lives in sci-fi fantasy world.

What do you think the delivery vehicle was for Operation Smoke Puff?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 26, 2016, 06:51:44 PM
A wigwam?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nexzus on February 27, 2016, 06:16:21 AM
^Registered today.

^Somehow knows what I said months ago on a locked thread.

^Didn't even read the link he spammed.

^Is wrong anyway.

^Sock puppet perhaps?
Perhaps I've been lurking for a couple years. Does it really matter?

"...Months ago on a locked thread"? You mean the topic "Rockets cannot work in a vacuum" started by yourself on January 27 and currently at 72 pages?

Here's some more about Operation Smoke Puff:
The Spokesman-Review, April 19, 1957 (https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19570418&id=u7YyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OecDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2136,371543&hl=en)
Popular Mechanics, October 1958 (https://books.google.ca/books?id=iNsDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA114&lpg=PA114&dq=operation+smoke+puff&source=bl&ots=l_haXVuU0v&sig=A89DBMUjljfM7aFaGOjcVLz4DqA&hl=en&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiG3a2TjZjLAhVC1GMKHUsDB_IQ6AEIMjAG#v=onepage&q=operation%20smoke%20puff&f=false)

So you believe that Operation Smoke Puff happened. Do you believe the experiment happened as described? That a canister of 15 kg of potassium was vaporized at 60 miles above new Mexico in 1958?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 27, 2016, 06:23:49 AM
^Yet another massively obvious sock poopet.

^Sorry, I mean 'puppet'.

^Nah, actually poopet is better.

^Lives in straw wigwam mayd inn Oztrelya bye teh oresum rayzzr.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on February 27, 2016, 07:15:14 PM
^Yet another massively obvious sock poopet.

^Sorry, I mean 'puppet'.

^Nah, actually poopet is better.

^Lives in straw wigwam mayd inn Oztrelya bye teh oresum rayzzr.

So,  operation Smoke Puff never happened?     They didn't bounce amateur radio signals off a cloud of ionized potassium?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on February 29, 2016, 01:48:56 AM
If someone was losing an argument in real life & they ran out the room then came back wearing a false beard, putting on a fake accent & pretending to be someone else, then told you that the person you were arguing with is super-right & you are super-wrong & everybody thinks you are a LOSER, what would you do?

That's right - you'd laugh in their face.

Or maybe punch em out.

So how come creeps like Rayzor & markjo think they can get away with this nonsense online by using sock-puppet armies?

You are shit at your job, Rayzor; your sock-puppet scarecrow strawman bullshit is REJECTED & you can go back to the booze-raddled Hell-of-your-own-making you inhabit.

Take this LMFAO!!! with you.

Toodle-pip, Disinfo-Cockroach!



Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nexzus on February 29, 2016, 09:10:36 AM
^Yet another massively obvious sock poopet.

^Sorry, I mean 'puppet'.

^Nah, actually poopet is better.

^Lives in straw wigwam mayd inn Oztrelya bye teh oresum rayzzr.

It's a simple yes/no question. Do you believe Operation Smoke Puff happened as described?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 01, 2016, 06:40:14 AM
^Shit that nobody cares about.

Chucking crap out the back of airplanes to enhance radio-wave reflectivity has been going on since the 1940's at least.

I know that cos my uncle took part in the original operations; they were called 'window'.

Google it, dummies.

They've had 70+ years to refine the technology & chemtrails use the same principle.

That's a fact.

Now take your sock-puppets & strawmen & shove em.

Cos I ain't playing.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nexzus on March 01, 2016, 08:17:17 AM


Chucking crap out the back of airplanes to enhance radio-wave reflectivity has been going on since the 1940's at least.



What plane could you "chuck crap out the back of" at an altitude of 60 miles into the ionosphere?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Rama Set on March 01, 2016, 08:35:44 AM
^Shit that nobody cares about.

Chucking crap out the back of airplanes to enhance radio-wave reflectivity has been going on since the 1940's at least.

I know that cos my uncle took part in the original operations; they were called 'window'.

Google it, dummies.

They've had 70+ years to refine the technology & chemtrails use the same principle.

That's a fact.

Now take your sock-puppets & strawmen & shove em.

Cos I ain't playing.

>Brings up Operation Smoke Puff
>Doesn't want to discuss it
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 06, 2016, 03:40:17 AM
^More shit that nobody cares about.

So, this thursday had nice high-pressure weather; perfect for chemtrailing.

Sure enough there was another 1000+% increase in air traffic over the city I inhabit, all of which were leaving smoke trails behind them, which spread out over a few hours to create a thin haze covering the entire sky.

As usual, the planes were mostly unmarked cargo jets.

You idiots can tell me this is normal as long, loud & often as you like.

And I will laugh at you.

Because it is not.

There are no satellites.

There is nothing in 'space'.

What we know as GPS & satellite comms are achieved through bouncing signals around the atmosphere.

Chemtrails enhance this effect; google 'Troposcatter' & wise yourselves up as to how.

Now; back to spamming your sock-puppet strawman bullshit that nobody reads...

Toodle-pip, disinfo-scum!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Rama Set on March 06, 2016, 04:36:47 AM
1000%+?  That smacks of an anecdotal factoid. Those are worth nothing.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 06, 2016, 03:45:07 PM
So, this thursday had nice high-pressure weather; perfect for chemtrailing.
As well as for contrails

Sure enough there was another 1000+% increase in air traffic over the city I inhabit,
A statement like that should have some evidence behind it.  As usual we have none from Papa Legba.  Of course on days that there are no contrails you're not going to notice the aircraft as they are far harder to spot.

all of which were leaving smoke trails behind them, which spread out over a few hours to create a thin haze covering the entire sky.
Smoke?  You tested it?  No of course you didn't.  I guarantee they looked exactly like contrails.

As usual, the planes were mostly unmarked cargo jets.
And you have pictures to verify that, right?  No, of course you don't.  Why take pictures to verify something that most other "chemtrailers" are not reporting?  ::) 

There are no satellites.
demonstrably false

There is nothing in 'space'.
Also false

What we know as GPS & satellite comms are achieved through bouncing signals around the atmosphere.
conjecture without evidence.  Still no explanation how a precise signal can be bounced off a variable, moving layer.

Chemtrails enhance this effect; google 'Troposcatter' & wise yourselves up as to how.
More conjecture without evidence.  "Chemtrails" only seem to show up during conditions conducive to contrail formation, look exactly like contrails, and form at altitudes where contrails form.  Your theory assumes you know the content yet no trails have ever been tested.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 08, 2016, 04:15:10 AM
^Increasing amounts of shit that nobody cares about.

Anyhoo, yesterday was another lovely high-pressure weather day, just like thursday when all the chemtrailing took place.

Yet, during the same time period when so many planes were criss-crossing the sky leaving smoke-trails behind them, I only saw maybe 1 or 2 per hour...

As opposed to 10 or 20.

Funnily enough, all these planes were leaving normal, short-lived contrails, rather than smoke-trails that all slowly spread out to cover the sky.

Of course, the filthy traitorous disinfo-scum will insist this is all perfectly normal...

LOL!!!

No it is Not.

I mean, really, it just isn't.

Which is why I'm ignoring them.

Anyone who tells me I cannot see what is right in front of my face deserves ignoring, wouldn't you agree?

Like I say, the military have been refining this technology for 70+ years...

As far as I can tell it had its 1st major field-test in the 1991 Gulf war & was rolled out in public around 5 years later.

It's pretty obvious what's going on to anyone with a modicum of historical & technical knowledge...

But yeah, I'm sure the sock-puppet disinfo-scum want to have their say now.

It'll all be Lies & they should still all be shot...

But some people's jobs just suck.

That's life.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Mainframes on March 08, 2016, 05:03:46 AM
Did you forget to take your medication today?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 08, 2016, 05:13:41 AM
Anyhoo, yesterday was another lovely high-pressure weather day, just like thursday when all the chemtrailing took place.

Yet, during the same time period when so many planes were criss-crossing the sky leaving smoke-trails behind them, I only saw maybe 1 or 2 per hour...

As opposed to 10 or 20.
So the weather at altitude is not the exact same from day to day and does not always correlate with weather on the ground 30,000+ feet below?  Shocker!!   ::)

Funnily enough, all these planes were leaving normal, short-lived contrails, rather than smoke-trails that all slowly spread out to cover the sky.
[/quote]
and here is the closest Papa Legba will admit that he is identifying "chemtrails" solely by how long they last in the sky.  Since a contrail is simply nothing more than an artificially created cirrus cloud, he is basically stating that cirrus clouds can't exist.

Of course, the filthy traitorous disinfo-scum will insist this is all perfectly normal...

LOL!!!

No it is Not.

I mean, really, it just isn't.

Which is why I'm ignoring them.
Then prove it.  Show some actual evidence.  All you've done so far is make unsupported assertions.

Anyone who tells me I cannot see what is right in front of my face deserves ignoring, wouldn't you agree?
Nobody has ever said you can't see it.  You are interpreting it wrong and assuming content when no samples have ever been taken.

Like I say, the military have been refining this technology for 70+ years...

As far as I can tell it had its 1st major field-test in the 1991 Gulf war & was rolled out in public around 5 years later.
Prove it.  The history of contrails and persistent contrails is quite long and has evidence going back that far (which you ignored because it didn't fit your world view).

It's pretty obvious what's going on to anyone with a modicum of historical & technical knowledge...
Yes, obvious you are scared of clouds and have done nothing to show they are otherwise.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 08, 2016, 05:34:32 AM
^Shit nobody cares about.

^But he's paid to post it so meh.

As I just wrote:

But yeah, I'm sure the sock-puppet disinfo-scum want to have their say now.

It'll all be Lies & they should still all be shot...

But some people's jobs just suck.

That's life.

If science is about making accurate predictions then the above makes me quite the scientist, doesn't it?

Plus LOL at how fast both of you are replying to my posts with your worthless astroturfing garbage that nobody reads...

What worthless existences you live.

Toodle-pip, shit-at-your-jobs disinfo-scum!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Mainframes on March 08, 2016, 05:40:28 AM
Took me almost 40 minutes to reply and I'm on a lunch break.

You have some weird hang ups.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 08, 2016, 05:42:58 AM
^Shit nobody cares about or believes.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 08, 2016, 05:44:54 AM
Anyhoo, now that the disinfo-scum have astro-turfed my relevant post, guess what?

Yup; I'll just post it again.

Yesterday was another lovely high-pressure weather day, just like thursday when all the chemtrailing took place.

Yet, during the same time period when so many planes were criss-crossing the sky leaving smoke-trails behind them, I only saw maybe 1 or 2 per hour...

As opposed to 10 or 20.

Funnily enough, all these planes were leaving normal, short-lived contrails, rather than smoke-trails that all slowly spread out to cover the sky.

Of course, the filthy traitorous disinfo-scum will insist this is all perfectly normal...

LOL!!!

No it is Not.

I mean, really, it just isn't.

Which is why I'm ignoring them.

Anyone who tells me I cannot see what is right in front of my face deserves ignoring, wouldn't you agree?

Like I say, the military have been refining this technology for 70+ years...

As far as I can tell it had its 1st major field-test in the 1991 Gulf war & was rolled out in public around 5 years later.

It's pretty obvious what's going on to anyone with a modicum of historical & technical knowledge...

But yeah, I'm sure the sock-puppet disinfo-scum want to have their say now.

It'll all be Lies & they should still all be shot...

But some people's jobs just suck.

That's life.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 08, 2016, 05:48:22 AM
^Shit nobody cares about.
Yet you keep responding to it to try to point out that they shouldn't.

^But he's paid to post it so meh.
Prove it.  I know you can't because I'm not paid or otherwise compensated to post here or anywhere else.  So all you have is an unfounded lie that you're using to try to discredit me instead of actually dealing with what I wrote.  How sad for you.

As I just wrote:

But yeah, I'm sure the sock-puppet disinfo-scum want to have their say now.

It'll all be Lies & they should still all be shot...

But some people's jobs just suck.

That's life.

If science is about making accurate predictions then the above makes me quite the scientist, doesn't it?
Oh no! How dare we respond to a post on a public forum!  And you predicted someone might respond!   ::)

Plus LOL at how fast both of you are replying to my posts with your worthless astroturfing garbage that nobody reads...
almost like I have email that lets me know there is a new post.  Ain't this new-fangled technology great? If it is so worthless then why do you feel you have to respond every time without fail.

What worthless existences you live.
Projecting now?  How sad for you.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 08, 2016, 05:52:21 AM
I have email that lets me know there is a new post.

^Admits he gets notifications of my posts so that he can respond asap with astroturfing garbage rather than having a life of his own.

^Is appallingly shit at his job.

^lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 08, 2016, 05:55:59 AM
I have email that lets me know there is a new post.

^Admits he gets notifications of my posts so that he can respond asap with astroturfing garbage rather than having a life of his own.
Admitting I use the forum software as it is intended.  Did you not know anyone can get updates for any thread they choose?

^Is appallingly shit at his job.
Can't prove it is a job but that doesn't stop him from slinging ad hominems to try to discredit because that's all he's got.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 08, 2016, 06:36:00 AM
^Desperately scrabbling for excuses to justify his massive blunder in admitting he actively monitors & gatekeeps topics on a conspiracy forum.

^Controller will be absolutely livid with him.

^Totally, utterly, hopelessly & lulzily SHIT AT HIS JOB.

^lol.

^lol.

^lol.

^Etc...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 08, 2016, 06:45:27 AM
^Desperately scrabbling for excuses to justify his massive blunder in admitting he actively monitors & gatekeeps topics on a conspiracy forum.
^Somehow thinks admitting I use the forum software as it is intended equate to "active monitoring and gatekeeping".  Is really just trying to change the subject.

^Controller will be absolutely livid with him.
^Can't prove I have a controller because I don't.

^Totally, utterly, hopelessly & lulzily SHIT AT HIS JOB.
^Has no idea what my job is and is just slinging shit at the wall hoping something will stick.  Doesn't realize how silly he looks.

^lol.

^lol.

^lol.

^Etc...
^Is apparently determined to prove he's really a 10 year old girl?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 09, 2016, 02:48:37 AM
^Responds to my posts within minutes with total bullshit.

^Entire argument based on telling me I cannot see something happening right in front of my face.

^Somehow thinks just repeating he is not a brainwashing disinfo-shill will make it true.

^Because brainwashing.

^Doesn't realise nobody believes him anyway.

^Because Shit at his Job.

*Yawn!*

What you must realise, little-shill-that-couldn't, is that you were merely trained in your profession.

Whereas I was born to it.

You wouldn't last two minutes under interrogation IRL before you were dragged out & shot in the back of the head.

That is a simple fact.

You will never get a single thing past me.

Ever.

None of you will.

So just stop trying, okay?

And kill yourselves instead.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on March 09, 2016, 06:30:35 AM
^Shit nobody cares about or believes.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 09, 2016, 06:46:02 AM
^Comes to rescue of useless disinfo-scum colleagues with 'NO U!!!'

^Also shit at his job.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 09, 2016, 08:46:53 AM
^Responds to my posts within minutes with total bullshit.

^Entire argument based on telling me I cannot see something happening right in front of my face.

^Somehow thinks just repeating he is not a brainwashing disinfo-shill will make it true.

^Because brainwashing.

^Doesn't realise nobody believes him anyway.

^Because Shit at his Job.

*Yawn!*

What you must realise, little-shill-that-couldn't, is that you were merely trained in your profession.

Whereas I was born to it.

You wouldn't last two minutes under interrogation IRL before you were dragged out & shot in the back of the head.

That is a simple fact.

You will never get a single thing past me.

Ever.

None of you will.

So just stop trying, okay?

And kill yourselves instead.
^Has not presented a single bit of evidence for his position.  Wants people to believe him anyway.

^Is so paranoid that he thinks people have to be paid to oppose his BS.

^Thinks contrails must dissipate quickly which basically means he doesn't believe cirrus cloud can exist.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 09, 2016, 08:56:41 AM
I have email that lets me know there is a new post.

^Admits he gets notifications of my posts so that he can respond asap with astroturfing garbage rather than having a life of his own.
Admitting I use the forum software as it is intended.  Did you not know anyone can get updates for any thread they choose?

Doesn't everyone get notifications? I mean that's how I do it.

^Is appallingly bad at his job.
Can't prove it is a job but that doesn't stop him from slinging ad hominems to try to discredit because that's all he's got.
[/quote]

It doesn't take much to throw ad Hominems at you because of how you act. I believe the same as you about chem trails and I'm tempted to call you names.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 10, 2016, 12:22:31 AM
^More shit nobody cares about.

Funny how chemtrails are about the most obvious & graphic proof there is that the earth has curvature.

Watch a chemtrailing plane come towards you over the horizon & you'll see what I mean.

Yet the boring disinfo-bots simply refuse to use them as evidence...

Not even as lulzy non-existent 'persistent contrails'.

Now why would that be, I wonder?

That's right - because they're not allowed to!

Muzzled dogs, fretting & yapping at the heels of their masters...

Sucks to be them.

Anyhoo; as the idiots above both admitted they get notifications of my posts simply so they can immediately oppose them (and the fact they want to 'oppose' the thoughts of an anonymous poster on an obscure flat earth conspiracy forum at all is yet more evidence they are paid disinfo-agents - lol!), get ready for more of their astroturfing, psychopathic mirroring & general bullshit.

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sceptimatic on March 10, 2016, 01:03:14 AM
It's not the Earth that has curvature, it's the sky that has curvature due to the dome covering.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Empirical on March 10, 2016, 04:12:28 AM
It's not the Earth that has curvature, it's the sky that has curvature due to the dome covering.
Lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 10, 2016, 06:07:28 AM

Not even as lulzy non-existent 'persistent contrails'.

Non existent?  So cirrus clouds can't exist in your world?  Interesting.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 10, 2016, 07:27:32 AM
So chemtrails are clouds now?

Cool story bro...

Any other things in the sky you'd like to claim chemtrails are while you're at it?

Birds maybe?

The Sun?

The Moon?

LOL!!!

What a SHIT shill you are; go on, tell me again how you aren't paid to be here, retard...

'Simply hilarious' as you put it in your prissy little gaylord manner.

Toodle-pip, Loser!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 10, 2016, 07:31:19 AM
So chemtrails are clouds now?

Cool story bro...

Any other things in the sky you'd like to claim chemtrails are while you're at it?

Birds maybe?

The Sun?

The Moon?

LOL!!!

What a SHIT shill you are; go on, tell me again how you aren't paid to be here, retard...

'Simply hilarious' as you put it in your prissy little gaylord manner.

Toodle-pip, Loser!
"Chemtrails" are an internet myth.  Contrails are clouds.  YOU made the claim that persistent contrails were non-existent therefore you must believe that cirrus cloud can't exist.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 10, 2016, 07:59:18 AM
Okay, so now airplanes create clouds?

'Simply prissily & gaylordly hilarious!'

How much shitter at your shit job can you get?

It will be fun finding out...

(For me, not for you).
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 10, 2016, 08:09:26 AM
Prove this is my job.  You can't because it isn't.  But you like the shill gambit (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Shill_gambit), don't you?  Too bad its all you've got.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 10, 2016, 08:33:27 AM
'Simply prissily gaylordly hilarious!'
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 15, 2016, 03:55:08 AM
Oh, look what the shills sneakily forum-slid off the front page...

This thread, that's what!

'Simply prissily gaylordly hilarious!'
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 15, 2016, 11:34:03 AM
When dealing with you it's easy to let the thread slide.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 19, 2016, 01:50:03 PM
Change your diaper, cannon-fodder.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on March 19, 2016, 02:32:34 PM
One reply to prove his point.

Bravo!

Here's your trophy for being top troll in all of this forum!

(https://imgflip.com/readImage?iid=10835537)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 20, 2016, 12:47:41 PM
Change your diaper, cannon-fodder.

Wait, what?!?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Round and Proud on March 20, 2016, 04:22:30 PM
Chemtrails=hoax.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: ocha on March 20, 2016, 08:15:36 PM
Okay, so now airplanes create clouds?

'Simply prissily & gaylordly hilarious!'

How much shitter at your shit job can you get?

It will be fun finding out...

(For me, not for you).

Yeah, aircraft create clouds. Hydrocarbon combustion basically produces carbon dioxide and water. Air up there is cold, and the colder the air is the less water vapour it can contain. The engine exhaust puts more water in the air, relative humidity goes over 100% so part of the water vapour condensates into liquid water or sublimates into ice and forms these clouds. Is it that difficult to understand? This is like basic physics.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on March 20, 2016, 08:36:11 PM
Okay, so now airplanes create clouds?

'Simply prissily & gaylordly hilarious!'

How much shitter at your shit job can you get?

It will be fun finding out...

(For me, not for you).

Yeah, aircraft create clouds. Hydrocarbon combustion basically produces carbon dioxide and water. Air up there is cold, and the colder the air is the less water vapour it can contain. The engine exhaust puts more water in the air, relative humidity goes over 100% so part of the water vapour condensates into liquid water or sublimates into ice and forms these clouds. Is it that difficult to understand? This is like basic physics.
Let's just say that Papa Legba has his own unique interpretation of basic physics.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 21, 2016, 12:37:40 AM
Poor little markjo misses Legba!

Needs a bit of fuss & attention, does he?

LOL!!!

Fact is he's jealous of the conversation Yaakov & I had.

Markjo is the very definition of a Self-Hating Jew; it eats him up inside.

Hearing Yaakov & I speak so freely of a thing he cannot come to terms with must be killing him...

As for chemtrails; read from page 1 for the truth.

It's pretty simple stuff.

Markjo hates simple stuff though; all his self-hatred stems from this simple fact.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on March 21, 2016, 12:32:58 PM
Poor little markjo misses Legba!
I miss you in the same way that I miss a case of the crabs.

Fact is he's jealous of the conversation Yaakov & I had.
If only you and Yaakov could have such civil discussions with people that disagree with you.

Markjo is the very definition of a Self-Hating Jew; it eats him up inside.
Oy vey.  What makes you think that I'm a Jew? ???

Hearing Yaakov & I speak so freely of a thing he cannot come to terms with must be killing him...
Not in the least.

As for chemtrails; read from page 1 for the truth.
Do you mean the truth that they are nothing more than persistent contrails?

It's pretty simple stuff.
Yes, it is.

Markjo hates simple stuff though; all his self-hatred stems from this simple fact.
Simple things for simple minds.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 21, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Your avatar is all the evidence anyone will ever need that you are a self-hating Jew, sad broken little clockwork disinfo-thing markjo.

Legba SEES you, Loser!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on March 21, 2016, 02:24:37 PM
Your avatar is all the evidence anyone will ever need that you are a self-hating Jew, sad broken little clockwork disinfo-thing markjo.
Wow, you put more thought into my avatar than I did.

Legba SEES you, Loser!
Legba sees what he wants to see, even if it isn't really there.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 21, 2016, 02:32:26 PM
You are completely stuck in an oral/anal infantile feedback loop of stubborn resentment, aren't you?

Just go get therapy & leave normal people alone, you creep.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on March 21, 2016, 02:35:22 PM
Just go get therapy & leave normal people alone, you creep.
If you're normal, then I'm glad that I'm not.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 21, 2016, 02:45:06 PM
Leave me the fuck alone, weirdo.

What is WRONG with you that you reply to every post I make with total garbage within minutes?

And that you have to control every thread here with your laughably obvious sock-puppet army?

Are you so eaten up by childish rage that you cannot see how insane you appear?

Gtfo & get some therapy!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Dog on March 21, 2016, 04:08:45 PM
Leave me the fuck alone, weirdo.

What is WRONG with you that you reply to every post I make with total garbage within minutes?

And that you have to control every thread here with your laughably obvious sock-puppet army?

Are you so eaten up by childish rage that you cannot see how insane you appear?

Gtfo & get some therapy!

It's getting a little late in the day but you should still take your meds
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 22, 2016, 05:15:35 AM
Leave me the fuck alone, weirdo.

What is WRONG with you that you reply to every post I make with total garbage within minutes?

And that you have to control every thread here with your laughably obvious sock-puppet army?

Are you so eaten up by childish rage that you cannot see how insane you appear?

Gtfo & get some therapy!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on March 22, 2016, 05:28:07 AM
Leave me the fuck alone, weirdo.
Actually, you're the one who started this little exchange by responding to me first.

What is WRONG with you that you reply to every post I make with total garbage within minutes?
Paranoid much?  Or do you just need your nappy changed?

And that you have to control every thread here with your laughably obvious sock-puppet army?
Yes, paranoid very much.  Better watch out before you become one of my sock puppets.

Are you so eaten up by childish rage that you cannot see how insane you appear?
No rage at all.  In fact, more amusement at your squirming than anything else at this point.

Gtfo & get some therapy!
Why?  I'm not the one seeing conspiracy everywhere.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 22, 2016, 05:50:02 AM
Haven't you got Self-Hating you need to be getting on with, loser?

Here's what you all are:

Here's a little convo you & I had earlier, Homie.

Just to remind people what you are really like.

how do you think that's relevant?

I'm just saying that anyone who spends 16 hours a day lying to strangers on the internet must have a pretty strong motivation to do so.

Any conclusions neutrals reach as to these motivations & whether they apply to anyone here are up to them.

But it is a fact that many of those caught in Operation Ore were not prosecuted.

Especially those in useful positions such as magistrates, councillors, teachers, scientists, etc...

A friend of mine resigned in disgust over it & the police she liaised with almost followed suit.

See below, which you somehow missed, Homie Rayzor:

If you want to know how such moral degenerates are recruited, google 'Operation Ore'.

It is a well-known fact that many of the people caught in Operation Ore & its counterparts in other countries were not prosecuted, but were instead blackmailed into doing Government dirty business.

The use of honey-traps & blackmail by intelligence agencies is as old as mankind.

So, next time you are arguing with a paid shill online bear this in mind.

Now; you allegedly designed satellite systems; you saw the shuttle take off; you visited CERN with your sons only last year; you seem to have degrees in everything...

Yet here you are, Homie Rayzor, Lying to strangers & having the piss ripped out of you for 16 hours every single day of your miserable life.

What is your motivation for doing so?

LOL!!!

I told you I don't give a damn about this place any more, Homie Rayzor; I got all the intel I need now...

So I'm just gonna tell people how it is.

Which is bad news for you & your suitably motivated boiler-room disinfo pals.

Toodle-pip, Mr. Motivator!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 22, 2016, 12:31:29 PM
^totally laughable response

^really paranoid

^alianating yourself from fellow believers in chemtrails such as myself.

^making fellow believers in chemtrails feel embarassed for you.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: svenanders on March 23, 2016, 01:28:31 AM
"One problem I have in telling people that contrails can actually persist, and can even spread out to cover the sky, is that people tend to be suspicious of random people on the internet. So I decided to simply let 70 years of books on clouds speak for themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/X72uACIN_00 (http://www.youtube.com/X72uACIN_00)

Result: Every single book on clouds that I could find for the last 70 years says that contrails can persist for hours.

So next time some random guy on the internet tells you contrails can't persist and spread, then ask them why 70 years of books on clouds say the opposite.

My cloud book collection:
(https://www.metabunk.org/sk/IMG_3428.JPG__100_RGB8__20140312_162225_20140312_162227.jpg)

Selected References:

1991: National Audubon Society Field Guide to North American Weather
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157644020551293/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157644020551293/)

1988: Exploring the Sky By Day, Page 49
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157643850292503/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157643850292503/)

1981: Peterson Field Guide to the Atmosphere, page 137
http://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157641675780313/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157641675780313/)

1972: Clouds of the World, page 130
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157641669574294/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157641669574294/)

1969: Clouds and Weather. Page 28
https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157641629656855/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157641629656855/)

1957: Cloud Study: A pictorial Guide, page 79
https://www.metabunk.org/sk/1957CloudstudyapictorialguideOCR.pdf (https://www.metabunk.org/sk/1957CloudstudyapictorialguideOCR.pdf)

1943 - Cloud Reading For Pilots, page 73
http://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157642316592915/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/metabunk/sets/72157642316592915/)

The above are simply the books I personally own. There are many other books that can be found in scanned form on the internet:

1983: Encyclopedia Britannica:
http://books.google.com/books?id=SBM8AAAAMAAJ&q=contrails (http://books.google.com/books?id=SBM8AAAAMAAJ&q=contrails) "last for several hours"

1975 International Cloud Atlas:
http://library.wmo.int/pmb_ged/wmo_407_en-v1.pdf (http://library.wmo.int/pmb_ged/wmo_407_en-v1.pdf)

1946, Brewer, Condensation Trails: Weather, June 1946"
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/c/3/1946_Brewer_condensation_trails.pdf (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/media/pdf/c/3/1946_Brewer_condensation_trails.pdf)

(https://www.metabunk.org/attachments/the-weather-book-web-jpg.14662/)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 01:39:32 AM
Fantastic stuff, Brainiac.

Except I never said contrails couldn't persist.

I said chemtrails weren't contrails.

Because they're not.

Best change you prissy little gaylord forum signature asap, eh?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: svenanders on March 23, 2016, 01:51:14 AM
Fantastic stuff, Brainiac.

Except I never said contrails couldn't persist.

I said chemtrails weren't contrails.

Because they're not.

Best change you prissy little gaylord forum signature asap, eh?

Then how do you differentiate contrails from chemtrails in the air?

What makes it a chemtrail rather then a contrail?

The signature stays.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 02:19:27 AM
The signature stays.

Then you will be treated as the Lying Buffoon you have just proved yourself to be.

Plus, you have a stupid face.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: svenanders on March 23, 2016, 02:34:11 AM
The signature stays.

Then you will be treated as the Lying Buffoon you have just proved yourself to be.

Plus, you have a stupid face.

Way to put forth an argument....

When you can't answer a fucking question, you just resort to personal attacks.

I wonder who's the stupid one...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 02:47:14 AM
So, you think you can Lie about me in your very first post & still be taken seriously?

Tell me, Derek Zoolander; was the look you were going for in your avatar 'Bumptious Oaf' or 'Arrogant Popinjay'?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on March 23, 2016, 05:13:39 AM
Except I never said contrails couldn't persist.
then what was this supposed to mean?

Not even as lulzy non-existent 'persistent contrails'.
Certainly looks like you don't think contrails can be persistent.

I said chemtrails weren't contrails.
And how do you determine which are "chemtrails" then?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 07:19:34 AM
LOL!!!

Obsessive little disinfo-bot aintcha!

I make you work for your corn don't I?

The fact that you had to go back to WW2 & find photos of piston-engined aircraft taken in the winter of 1944/45, one of the coldest on record, for evidence of persistent contrails shows they have no place in the discussion of what modern jet airliners are producing in vastly different weather conditions.

Also, the fact that all your photos are still photos renders them useless anyway, as by the very definition of the word 'still' any contrail it shows will 'persist' for ever; they give no useful information as to how long these contrails persisted whatsoever...

So, when discussing chemtrails then it is correct to use the term non-existent about 'persistent contrails'; because they are a completely different phenomenon. A very rare one in fact.

That's enough of your time-wasting disinfo-bullshit anyhoo, you horrid little thing; back under your bridge now.

Chemtrails are just particulate muck chucked out the back of airplanes to enhance atmospheric radio-wave reflectivity.

Because satellites are sci-fi bullshit.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: hoppy on March 23, 2016, 08:23:46 AM
It's not the Earth that has curvature, it's the sky that has curvature due to the dome covering.
The earth is not curved Legba. Same as standing in middle of long line of street lights all equal in height. Both ways they seem to shrink in height even though they don't shrink. The planes chemtrails are laid straight but seem to get closer to the ground in each direction.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 09:09:49 AM
No, that's not what I observed.

It's difficult to be in the right position with the right lighting, but if you are you will clearly see a chemtrailing plane come up over the horizon, then level out as it gets nearer.

Unless they have vertical take-off chemplanes now then it is a clear sign of curvature.

In fact it is the clearest one I have ever seen.

Which is why it is so suspicious that all the 'round earther' attack-dogs here never mention it.

All I can do is suggest you make the observation yourself & draw your own conclusions.

But I refuse to disbelieve the evidence of my own senses when the Clown Derfers nag me to do so; I will not change that habit for the flat earthers.

As far as I am concerned everyone here is being played; I have pointed out who is doing it & why.

It could not be clearer.

Remember; the greatest enemy of a modern state is in fact its own citizens - the last thing the state wants is for the rabble to find out how weak their rulers truly are.

Putting a bullet in all their citizen's brains is not an option; putting bullshit in their brains is.

Disinformation, False Dialectics & Divide/Conquer are the chosen methods for this.

Enjoy being played.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 23, 2016, 12:19:26 PM
The signature stays.

Then you will be treated as the Lying Buffoon you have just proved yourself to be.

Plus, you have a stupid face.

What's wrong with the sig? And isn't that a red herring?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 23, 2016, 12:21:08 PM
Fantastic stuff, Brainiac.

Except I never said contrails couldn't persist.

I said chemtrails weren't contrails.

Because they're not.

Best change you prissy little gaylord forum signature asap, eh?

Then how do you differentiate contrails from chemtrails in the air?

What makes it a chemtrail rather then a contrail?

The signature stays.

Didnt the government admitted that they are using chemtrails to help fight global warming or something?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: svenanders on March 23, 2016, 12:23:12 PM
Fantastic stuff, Brainiac.

Except I never said contrails couldn't persist.

I said chemtrails weren't contrails.

Because they're not.

Best change you prissy little gaylord forum signature asap, eh?

Then how do you differentiate contrails from chemtrails in the air?

What makes it a chemtrail rather then a contrail?

The signature stays.

Didnt the government admitted that they are using chemtrails to help fight global warming or something?

Then there should be a reliable source somewhere. See if you can find it. :)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on March 23, 2016, 12:26:48 PM
It is possible to "seed" clouds using planes:
http://www.weathermodification.com/cloud-seeding-aerial.php (http://www.weathermodification.com/cloud-seeding-aerial.php)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 23, 2016, 12:32:17 PM
Fantastic stuff, Brainiac.

Except I never said contrails couldn't persist.

I said chemtrails weren't contrails.

Because they're not.

Best change you prissy little gaylord forum signature asap, eh?

Then how do you differentiate contrails from chemtrails in the air?

What makes it a chemtrail rather then a contrail?

The signature stays.

Didnt the government admitted that they are using chemtrails to help fight global warming or something?

Then there should be a reliable source somewhere. See if you can find it. :)

All I found was this.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmospheric-geoengineering-weather-manipulation-contrails-and-chemtrails/20369 (http://www.globalresearch.ca/atmospheric-geoengineering-weather-manipulation-contrails-and-chemtrails/20369)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 01:16:23 PM
Then there should be a reliable source somewhere. See if you can find it.

So, yeah; did you come up with the stupid expression on your face all by yourself, Sven Zoolander?

Or was the photographer shouting random things like 'Potato mange! Lumpfish blancmange!' that you then tried to enact?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 23, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
Then there should be a reliable source somewhere. See if you can find it.

So, yeah; did you come up with the stupid expression on your face all by yourself, Sven Zoolander?

Or was the photographer shouting random things like 'Potato mange! Lumpfish blancmange!' that you then tried to enact?

You're not helping...at all. That's one of the most blatant as Hominem I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 02:00:54 PM
And you're the most blatant cannon-fodder I've ever seen.

My grandpa would've used you to as bait to flush out snipers; it's all you're good for.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 23, 2016, 02:44:43 PM
And you're the most blatant cannon-fodder I've ever seen.

My grandpa would've used you to as bait to flush out snipers; it's all you're good for.

How exactly am I cannon fodder?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 03:04:57 PM
He asked, just before his head got blown off by a sniper...

Loser.

But hey; keep turning pages, dickheads...

Enjoy your tiny headless wins.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on March 23, 2016, 03:12:14 PM
He asked, just before his head got blown off by a sniper...

Loser.

But hey; keep turning pages, dickheads...

Enjoy your tiny headless wins.

Thanks for explaining nothing.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on March 23, 2016, 03:12:40 PM
And you're the most blatant cannon-fodder I've ever seen.

My grandpa would've used you to as bait to flush out snipers; it's all you're good for.
I have even less desire to know you personally.

Then why are you & your cronies trying to goad me into doxing myself on a part of the forum hidden to non-members, rather than here where the topic of my father's service record belongs?

GTFO, creep.

Didn't read the rest of your nonsense btw; you're just another time wasting spam-bot that nothing to say but won't stop saying it.

Lol

I knew you were lying. Your father and grandfather were garbage men.  You can't even keep your stories straight. You have been claiming your father was in WW2. Now it's you grandfather?

lol

Fucking caught.

lol

garbage men for a family tree.


lol

Stolen valor.

lol

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 23, 2016, 03:24:48 PM
Oh dear.

The grandpa I am referring to was an infantry Captain in WW1.

His sons served in WW2.

This is not unusual you know?

Your brain seems to be boiling over; getting laid may help alleviate this.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on March 24, 2016, 05:12:37 AM
lol

Nice try

lol

garbage men

lol

liar

lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 26, 2016, 01:15:34 PM
Well, if I'm a liar then you will easily find a post where I said my grandpa served in WW2, won't you?

Snap to it, aspie-boy; & don't reply until you find one!

(lol he won't find one but he'll reply anyway, the useless shitposting retard)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on March 26, 2016, 01:58:56 PM
Well, if I'm a liar then you will easily find a post where I said my grandpa served in WW2, won't you?

Snap to it, aspie-boy; & don't reply until you find one!

(lol he won't find one but he'll reply anyway, the useless shitposting retard)

lol

All our conversations about the military and your "father" and you never once mentioned your grandfather was in the military too?

lol

Back to chemtrails. When did you shift from chemtrails causing mind control to "radio repeaters"?

lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 26, 2016, 05:33:19 PM
LOL!!!

I've repeatedly told you I come from a military family you retard.

Wtf do you think I meant by that you retard?

Watch sokarul run away...

Well, if I'm a liar then you will easily find a post where I said my grandpa served in WW2, won't you?

Snap to it, aspie-boy; & don't reply until you find one!

(lol he won't find one but he'll reply anyway, the useless shitposting retard)


What a Loser.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on March 26, 2016, 08:03:58 PM
LOL!!!

I've repeatedly told you I come from a military family you retard.
No, you said your dad was in WWII, making you 65 years old. Yet you post like a kid. Anyways.

Quote
Wtf do you think I meant by that you retard?
That your dad was in WWII apparently in two theaters. Even though you wouldn't provide any evidence.

Quote
Watch sokarul run away...

Well, if I'm a liar then you will easily find a post where I said my grandpa served in WW2, won't you?

Snap to it, aspie-boy; & don't reply until you find one!

(lol he won't find one but he'll reply anyway, the useless shitposting retard)


What a Loser.
You never once said your grandfather was in WWI. Then you chime in saying your grandfather was a dishonorable coward who is such a shit person he would use his own troops as human shields. That's actually a really fucking retarded thing to say. That would be worse than coming from a line of garbage men. But then it goes back to how you never once mentioned your grandfather before, but you have mentioned your father.

So you are still claiming to be a 65 year old who posts like you do

^?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 27, 2016, 07:56:10 AM
So no, you cannot find a post where I said my grandpa served in WW2.

As for your comments about 'dishonour' & 'cowardice'; you really do have no idea how the military works, do you?

Typical cannon-fodder mentality.

Anyhoo; Lying & Jealousy noted.

Ditto simmering Virgin-Rage...

Now this:

When did you shift from chemtrails causing mind control to "radio repeaters"?

Please find a post where I stated chemtrails cause 'mind control'.

And don't reply until you do.

(lol he won't find one cos I never said it... But watch the shitposting little cockroach reply anyway!)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on March 29, 2016, 08:12:25 PM
So no, you cannot find a post where I said my grandpa served in WW2.
O never said you did. I said you never once mentioned your grandpa until you called him a dishonorable coward. Pay attention. It seems strange you didn't feel like bringing him up in past comments. But it would make sense if you claimed your dad was in WWII when it was really your grandfather. Seeing is how you do not act 65 years old.

lol


Quote
As for your comments about 'dishonour' & 'cowardice'; you really do have no idea how the military works, do you?
I know my grandfather would never use his squad mates as human shield. Fucking retard.

Quote
Typical cannon-fodder mentality.
You have no clue.

Quote
Anyhoo; Lying & Jealousy noted.

Ditto simmering Virgin-Rage...

Now this:

When did you shift from chemtrails causing mind control to "radio repeaters"?

Please find a post where I stated chemtrails cause 'mind control'.

And don't reply until you do.

(lol he won't find one cos I never said it... But watch the shitposting little cockroach reply anyway!)
Once again, I never said you did. It's just the average chemtrail uneducated fool thinks they are mind controlling. You seem to know they are radio repeaters.

This is how smart you and other chemtrail retards are.

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Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on March 31, 2016, 10:56:15 AM
First the sock-tard says this:

When did you shift from chemtrails causing mind control to "radio repeaters"?

Please find a post where I stated chemtrails cause 'mind control'.

And don't reply until you do.

(lol he won't find one cos I never said it... But watch the shitposting little cockroach reply anyway!)

Lo & behold, he now says this:

I never said you did.

What a Capering Clown.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on March 31, 2016, 02:50:26 PM
First the sock-tard says this:

When did you shift from chemtrails causing mind control to "radio repeaters"?

Please find a post where I stated chemtrails cause 'mind control'.

And don't reply until you do.

(lol he won't find one cos I never said it... But watch the shitposting little cockroach reply anyway!)

Lo & behold, he now says this:

I never said you did.

What a Capering Clown.
So no quote then? Not surprising since you can't read.  Also nice to see I destroyed you so much you couldn't even respond to half my post. I guess the video made you cry. I think your are more dumb than the person in the video.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 01, 2016, 11:57:01 PM
Lol you are far gone, JREF-ugee; nothing you write makes sense.

And I didn't even watch your dumb youtube.

Anyhoo, do you think it is possible for reflective particulates sprayed out of planes to enhance troposcatter?

Because I do.

And that's the point here, lest we forget.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on April 02, 2016, 03:54:48 AM
Lol you are far gone, JREF-ugee; nothing you write makes sense.
And I didn't even watch your dumb youtube.
Anyhoo, do you think it is possible for reflective particulates sprayed out of planes to enhance troposcatter?
Because I do.
And that's the point here, lest we forget.
What a joke! Because YOU do! Aren't we getting a bit of swelled head here with "And that's the point here, lest we forget."
Who in this big round world cares one iota (this is an iota ι in case you have forgotten your Greek) what Poppy Leghorn thinks is possible?
You were 100% wrong on rockets in a VACUUM and even close on the ISS - can't use a telescope to tell the difference between a Citation, a Gulfstream and the ISS.
There is a saying "why not quit while you're ahead?" Bit late for you, you've been going the wrong from square one!
I just pop in occasionally when I need a bit of amusement.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 02, 2016, 05:10:52 AM
Desperate aintcha, Geoff?

You know, it only took a couple of minutes of google to link you to the pseudo-skeptic movement.

Now, I asked a question: is it possible for reflective particulates sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?

I think it is.

And I see reflective particulates being sprayed from planes a lot over major communication centres.

Don't take a genius to see why it's being done.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 02, 2016, 07:12:37 AM
Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.
Would it be useful only to increase range in certain frequencies of radio communications and useless for precision location because the particles would be constantly moving and impossible to predict?  Most definitely yes.
Would it look completely different from the artificially created cirrus clouds we see created by planes and likely invisible from the ground?  Again, most definitely yes.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 02, 2016, 08:29:04 AM
Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.

That's all I need from you, thanks.

The rest of your post was the usual garbage; 'constantly moving particles' lol gtfo, why do you think they call it tropoSCATTER!?

Back under your bridge now anyway.

This technology isn't even particularly secret; they just rely on everyone being so dumb they can't join the dots.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 02, 2016, 08:45:00 AM
Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.

That's all I need from you, thanks.
Yes, just ignore the parts that destroy your fantasy.

The rest of your post was the usual garbage;
If only you could prove that.  But that would require posting evidence and everyone knows you won't do that, right?

'constantly moving particles' lol gtfo, why do you think they call it tropoSCATTER!?
Then you agree it would be useless for precision location.

Back under your bridge now anyway.
And of course the expected ad hominem

This technology isn't even particularly secret; they just rely on everyone being so dumb they can't join the dots.
Not secret but of course you can't post any evidence it is being used as you say.  And course another ad hominem.
 
It is a FACT that it would not be able to be used for precision location services.  And it is a FACT that it would not look anything like the contrails we see and would likely be invisible from the ground.  It is also a FACT that nobody  has tested a trail to find anything other than water/ice and minor levels of exhaust/soot.    But you don't like to deal with facts, do you?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 02, 2016, 08:48:24 AM
The rest of your post was the usual garbage; 'constantly moving particles' lol gtfo, why do you think they call it tropoSCATTER!?
They call it troposcatter because so little of the signal is reflected in a useful manner.  Why would anyone rely on such an inefficient system when there are much more efficient methods of long range communication are available?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 02, 2016, 12:14:17 PM
there are much more efficient methods of long range communication are available

LOL!!!

You really have to try to be this dumb, dontcha?

What effect do you think that's having on you?

Anyhoo; NO, there are NOT more efficient systems available...

That's my whole point you sad, sad, can't-even-dance-his-troubles-away-with-a-woman little man.

Do keep up!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 02, 2016, 04:17:59 PM
there are much more efficient methods of long range communication are available

LOL!!!

You really have to try to be this dumb, dontcha?

What effect do you think that's having on you?

Anyhoo; NO, there are NOT more efficient systems available...

That's my whole point you sad, sad, can't-even-dance-his-troubles-away-with-a-woman little man.

Do keep up!
Losing the vast majority of your signal to outer space doesn't sound very efficient to me.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 02, 2016, 09:43:25 PM
Lol you are far gone, JREF-ugee; nothing you write makes sense.

And I didn't even watch your dumb youtube.

Anyhoo, do you think it is possible for reflective particulates sprayed out of planes to enhance troposcatter?

Because I do.

And that's the point here, lest we forget.
It's a shame you didn't watch the video. I could see you being just as stupid.  Claiming a rainbow in a garden hose water is chemicals placed in there by the government.

Idiot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: apollo3160 on April 03, 2016, 01:55:45 AM
Has anyone considered, that chemtrails may have been devised to turn our atmosphere into a shield that can't be seen through.  Just like the affect of your bathroom window.  You know how the glass can't be seen through easily!....

Perhaps they are trying to hide something from us?

Message me if you are interested to know more!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 03, 2016, 03:04:45 AM
It is a FACT that it would not be able to be used for precision location services.  And it is a FACT that it would not look anything like the contrails we see and would likely be invisible from the ground.  It is also a FACT that nobody  has tested a trail to find anything other than water/ice and minor levels of exhaust/soot.    But you don't like to deal with facts, do you?

LOL!!!

Just making shit up now.

Losing the vast majority of your signal to outer space doesn't sound very efficient to me.

LOL!!!

More efficient than using satellites that don't even exist.

Claiming a rainbow in a garden hose water is chemicals placed in there by the government.

LOL!!!

I never said anything of the sort.

You are mental, JREF-ugee.

Perhaps they are trying to hide something from us?

LOL!!!

Perhaps you are.

Toodle-pip, Blind men living in a sci-fi fantasy world!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 03, 2016, 06:21:07 AM
It is a FACT that it would not be able to be used for precision location services.  And it is a FACT that it would not look anything like the contrails we see and would likely be invisible from the ground.  It is also a FACT that nobody  has tested a trail to find anything other than water/ice and minor levels of exhaust/soot.    But you don't like to deal with facts, do you?

LOL!!!

Just making shit up now.

I've made nothing up.  If you think so then show some evidence.  Prove it. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 03, 2016, 06:34:44 AM
I've made nothing up.  If you think so then show some evidence.  Prove it.

LOL!!!

So now I have to show all the evidence in support of YOUR assertions as well as my own?

While you do what, exactly, you ridiculous little man?

LMFAO at how shit-at-your-shitty-circular-logic-spamming-job you are!!!

JREF confirmed.

www.bolenreport.com (http://www.bolenreport.com) for lulz.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 03, 2016, 06:51:45 AM
I've made nothing up.  If you think so then show some evidence.  Prove it.

LOL!!!

So now I have to show all the evidence in support of YOUR assertions as well as my own?
Thanks for showing you can't prove I've made anything up.  If you could have you would have.  Instead you resorted to argument from ridicule.  But of course everyone knows you love your logical fallacies. 

I did not say you should show evidence in support of my assertions.  You should show how they are false since you claimed I'm making them up.  I can understand how you can't see the difference since you've never shown evidence for anything.

You've shown a grand total of ZERO evidence for anything.  My assertions are fact and common sense.  But hey, keep believing that an aerosol subject to shifting winds and gravity can be used to accurately provide a precision reflecting surface.  Gets funnier everytime! 

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 03, 2016, 12:23:03 PM
But hey, keep believing that an aerosol subject to shifting winds and gravity can be used to accurately provide a precision reflecting surface.

Well of course it's not a precision reflecting surface you retard; that's the whole point.

It SCATTERS the radio-waves; hence the phrase tropospheric SCATTER.

Retard.

Look:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

There you go; said it yourself.

The rest of your nonsense is time-wasting garbage.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 03, 2016, 12:33:49 PM
But hey, keep believing that an aerosol subject to shifting winds and gravity can be used to accurately provide a precision reflecting surface.

Well of course it's not a precision reflecting surface you retard; that's the whole point.

It SCATTERS the radio-waves; hence the phrase tropospheric SCATTER.

Retard.

Look:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

There you go; said it yourself.

The rest of your nonsense is time-wasting garbage.
then your whole idea that it is used to reflect signals for GPS will not work.  Thanks for admitting that.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 03, 2016, 12:44:15 PM
then your whole idea that it is used to reflect signals for GPS will not work.

LOL!!!

Look what you said:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Contradict yourself much?

It's only radio triangulation ffs; why are you trying to make such a big mystery out of it?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 03, 2016, 01:52:59 PM
then your whole idea that it is used to reflect signals for GPS will not work.

LOL!!!

Look what you said:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Contradict yourself much?

It's only radio triangulation ffs; why are you trying to make such a big mystery out of it?
It is not a contradiction.  Increased troposcatter would increase the amount of signal reflected but the shifting moving nature of the particles, which you have agreed to, would decrease the precision signals needed for GPS.  So again, the idea that it would be used to reflect GPS signals would not work.  Thanks for admitting to that.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 06, 2016, 10:28:00 AM
When did I admit that fake bullshit 'GPS' required precision signals?

It just requires radio triangulation between cell towers.

And, this is achieved with the help of troposcatter.

Which is enhanced by the spraying of reflective particles from airplanes.

Again, you are trying to make a VERY simple matter into a mystery.

You keep spamming about 'evidence'.

Yet you have ZERO evidence of the existence of 'GPS satellites'.

Please provide some, as you are SO sure you are correct.

I can LOOK at cell towers everywhere.

I can LOOK at planes spraying reflective particulates.

I CANNOT look at 'GPS satellites'.

SHOW ME THEM.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on April 06, 2016, 10:36:15 AM
When did I admit that fake bullshit 'GPS' required precision signals?

It just requires radio triangulation between cell towers.

And, this is achieved with the help of troposcatter.

Which is enhanced by the spraying of reflective particles from airplanes.

Again, you are trying to make a VERY simple matter into a mystery.

You keep spamming about 'evidence'.

Yet you have ZERO evidence of the existence of 'GPS satellites'.

Please provide some, as you are SO sure you are correct.

I can LOOK at cell towers everywhere.

I can LOOK at planes spraying reflective particulates.

I CANNOT look at 'GPS satellites'.

SHOW ME THEM.

Troposcatter would cause a signal to have several routes of different lengths to the receiver, making the GPS readings inaccurate.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 06, 2016, 10:54:27 AM
When did I admit that fake bullshit 'GPS' required precision signals?

It just requires radio triangulation between cell towers.

And, this is achieved with the help of troposcatter.

Which is enhanced by the spraying of reflective particles from airplanes.

Again, you are trying to make a VERY simple matter into a mystery.

You keep spamming about 'evidence'.

Yet you have ZERO evidence of the existence of 'GPS satellites'.

Please provide some, as you are SO sure you are correct.

I can LOOK at cell towers everywhere.

I can LOOK at planes spraying reflective particulates.

I CANNOT look at 'GPS satellites'.

SHOW ME THEM.
How is it going to use triangulation? Do all GPS receivers have directional antennas?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 06, 2016, 11:12:33 AM
When did I admit that fake bullshit 'GPS' required precision signals?

It just requires radio triangulation between cell towers.

And, this is achieved with the help of troposcatter.

Which is enhanced by the spraying of reflective particles from airplanes.

Again, you are trying to make a VERY simple matter into a mystery.

You keep spamming about 'evidence'.

Yet you have ZERO evidence of the existence of 'GPS satellites'.

Please provide some, as you are SO sure you are correct.

I can LOOK at cell towers everywhere.

I can LOOK at planes spraying reflective particulates.

I CANNOT look at 'GPS satellites'.

SHOW ME THEM.
GPS requires precision signals.  Troposcatter will NOT give precision.

How do you KNOW that they are spraying reflective particles?  Have you tested them?  Has anyone?  No.  ALL tests have been done from samples collected on the ground which proves nothing about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.  Some "chemtrailers" have promised to collect samples directly from trails and some have even collected money to do so and none have ever done it. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 06, 2016, 12:34:01 PM
When did I admit that fake bullshit 'GPS' required precision signals?

It just requires radio triangulation between cell towers.
It is a popular misconception that GPS uses triangulation.

It does not.

Triangulation requires known angles between the 2 transmitters and the receiver.

Hence the name triangulation.

GPS uses multilateration.

Multilateration uses precision signal timing between the known locations of 3 or more transmitters and the receiver.

Signals bouncing around the troposphere don't sound terribly reliable for precision timing.

Granted, GSM location does use cell tower signals, but it isn't as accurate and there are still vast areas of the world with no cell phone coverage where GPS works just fine.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 06, 2016, 12:55:31 PM
GPS uses trilateration, not multilateration.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 06, 2016, 01:02:50 PM
LOL!!!

JREF Avengers - ASSEMBLE!

It is a popular misconception that GPS uses triangulation.

No; it is a popular misconception that GPS uses satellites.

Please provide verifiable evidence that these things exist.

I can SEE chemtrails.

I can SEE cellphone towers.

I CANNOT see 'GPS satellites'.

Chop-chop, JREF-ugees; provide this 'evidence' you are all so keen on!

SHOW ME THESE SATELLITES!

And remember; shit-at-his-job disinfo-thing frenat has already admitted this:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 06, 2016, 01:10:14 PM
LOL!!!

JREF Avengers - ASSEMBLE!

It is a popular misconception that GPS uses triangulation.

No; it is a popular misconception that GPS uses satellites.

Please provide verifiable evidence that these things exist.

I can SEE chemtrails.

I can SEE cellphone towers.

I CANNOT see 'GPS satellites'.

Chop-chop, JREF-ugees; provide this 'evidence' you are all so keen on!

SHOW ME THESE SATELLITES!

And remember; shit-at-his-job disinfo-thing frenat has already admitted this:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Nice job attempting to shift the burden of proof.  You were WRONG about triangulation and WRONG about needing precision signals so you try to distract from that.  Typical.

Ever prove any planes are spraying reflective particles?  Ever test any trail to show that?  Ever prove that spraying these particles would just happen to look like a contrail?  No.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 06, 2016, 06:17:24 PM
GPS uses trilateration, not multilateration.
Either way, it still isn't triangulation.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 07, 2016, 09:21:05 AM
While we wait for the lulzily shrill & indignant JREf-ugee disinfo-things to come up with something even resembling genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist, let us consider 'geo-engineering'.

This is the most popular hypothesis for the existence of chemtrails & it is, of course, complete bullshit.

In fact it was invented, & is sponsored by, military intelligence.

Why?

POWER.

Let me explain; the idea that the army can control the weather makes civilians feel POWERLESS.

Whereas the truth about chemtrails, which is that they are just muck sprayed to enhance comms capability & that all these wizzo space-satellites & space-weapons are laughable propaganda, makes the military look POWERLESS.

Which they are, when it comes down to it.

Let's face it, all of NATO couldn't even quell a bunch of Afghan hillbillies armed with antiquated small arms...

POWER.

CONTROL.

Enjoy being controlled by powerless people, suckers!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 07, 2016, 09:29:44 AM
I'll show you proof of GPS satellites when you show proof of your claim that I said English was not my first language. Then you can move on to all your other claims you've never provided a bit of evidence for.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 07, 2016, 09:51:11 AM
LOL!!!

'I'll show you mine if you show me yours?'

Is that how you groom your 12-year-old victims, JREF-ugee?

Wtf is wrong with you?

You will NEVER show me genuine empirical 'proof' of GPS satellites...

Because there is none.

Because they do not exist.

Chemtrails & cellphone towers, however, do exist.

As does radio triangulation.

Which uses radio waves btw...

Which are enhanced by troposcatter...

Which is enhanced by reflective particulates sprayed from airplanes...

Which you acknowledged was true; look:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Not hard to grasp, really.

Anyhoo; enjoy being powerless whilst trying to control people, shit-at-your-job disinfo-thing...

www.bolenreport.com (http://www.bolenreport.com) for why creepy weirdos like frenat behave like they do...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 07, 2016, 09:59:16 AM
LOL!!!

'I'll show you mine if you show me yours?'

Is that how you groom your 12-year-old victims, JREF-ugee?

Wtf is wrong with you?

You will NEVER show me genuine empirical 'proof' of GPS satellites...

Because there is none.

Because they do not exist.

Chemtrails & cellphone towers, however, do exist.

As does radio triangulation.

Which uses radio waves btw...

Which are enhanced by troposcatter...

Which is enhanced by reflective particulates sprayed from airplanes...

Which you acknowledged was true; look:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Not hard to grasp, really.

Anyhoo; enjoy being powerless whilst trying to control people, shit-at-your-job disinfo-thing...

www.bolenreport.com (http://www.bolenreport.com) for why creepy weirdos like frenat behave like they do...
Translation: I can't provide evidence for any of my claims and I'll continue to ignore that GPS needs a precision signal which won't work with troposcatter.  Here's some more ad hominems because I can't post without them.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 07, 2016, 12:53:03 PM
It's hard to kick against the pricks.

But it gets easier with practice.

It may be noted that all frenat does is lie & goad.

All 'GPS' requires is radio triangulation.

He cannot make this simple fact untrue simply by repeating Lies.

And he will never provide empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist.

Because he cannot.

Because there is none.

The weak & powerless can only control what you allow them to.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 07, 2016, 01:29:42 PM
Whereas the truth about chemtrails, which is that they are just muck sprayed to enhance comms capability & that all these wizzo space-satellites & space-weapons are laughable propaganda, makes the military look POWERLESS.
What about the civilian communications companies that claim to use satellites?  Are they in on the chemtrails too?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 07, 2016, 01:37:32 PM
It's hard to kick against the pricks.

But it gets easier with practice.

It may be noted that all frenat does is lie & goad.

All 'GPS' requires is radio triangulation.

He cannot make this simple fact untrue simply by repeating Lies.

And he will never provide empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist.

Because he cannot.

Because there is none.

The weak & powerless can only control what you allow them to.
I have not lied.  If you think I have then show where.

As for lies, YOU claimed English was not my native language.  Where did I say that?  Ever going to prove that one or are you just hoping it goes away?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 07, 2016, 02:56:36 PM
It's hard to kick against the pricks.

But it gets easier with practice.

It may be noted that all frenat does is lie & goad.

All 'GPS' requires is radio triangulation.

He cannot make this simple fact untrue simply by repeating Lies.

And he will never provide empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist.

Because he cannot.

Because there is none.

The weak & powerless can only control what you allow them to.
How does the receiver get the angles?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 07, 2016, 09:53:44 PM
So; still zero empirical evidence whatsoever for the existence of 'GPS satellites'?

This is very problematical for you, as your entire argument depends upon them.

See; I can SHOW you chemtrails & cellphone towers...

And radio triangulation is ancient tech.

But you cannot SHOW me a 'GPS satellite'.

And you never will.

Because they do not exist.

You are powerless to control me with your piss-poor Lies, JREF freaks...

www.bolenreport.com (http://www.bolenreport.com) for more on how these Losers operate.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 07, 2016, 10:02:00 PM
So; still zero empirical evidence whatsoever for the existence of 'GPS satellites'?

This is very problematical for you, as your entire argument depends upon them.

See; I can SHOW you chemtrails & cellphone towers...

And radio triangulation is ancient tech.

But you cannot SHOW me a 'GPS satellite'.

And you never will.

Because they do not exist.

You are powerless to control me with your piss-poor Lies, JREF freaks...

www.bolenreport.com (http://www.bolenreport.com) for more on how these Losers operate.
Clearly broadcast satellites exist, just check dish angles.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 08, 2016, 05:37:15 AM
Papa Legba clearly shows once again he can't provide evidence for his claims yet he expects others to do as he asks why?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 08, 2016, 06:46:29 AM
So; still zero empirical evidence whatsoever for the existence of 'GPS satellites'?
The evidence is in the signals and data structure within the signals.

This is very problematical for you, as your entire argument depends upon them.
Not really.

See; I can SHOW you chemtrails & cellphone towers...
But you can only speculate as to the connection between the two.

And radio triangulation is ancient tech.
Too bad that GPS doesn't use triangulation.

But you cannot SHOW me a 'GPS satellite'.
And you can't show me a sample of the chemicals allegedly being used for the chemtrails.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 08, 2016, 09:19:43 AM
So, STILL no evidence that satellites exist.

You got nothing, have you?

Just interminable bullshit.

I mean, look at this:

As for lies, YOU claimed that I said English was not my native language.

A Lie.

Find the post where I claimed that.

GPS needs a precision signal which won't work with troposcatter.

A Lie.

There is no such thing as a 'precision' radio signal.

There are only weak or strong ones.

Troposcatter helps make signals stronger.

Which helps with triangulation, as well as many other applications.

This is very problematical for you, as your entire argument depends upon them.
Not really.

LOL!!!

So, your argument that GPS depends on satellites DOES NOT depend upon the existence of satellites?

You psycho!

Now; YOU WILL SHOW ME GENUINE, EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THAT GPS SATELLITES EXIST.

SHOW ME IT NOW!


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on April 08, 2016, 09:33:00 AM
I recently took a trip in Sequoia National Park. Even at times when I had no cell service due to the mountains, I recieved signals from 7 satellites. This is somewhat anectdotal, but I might be able to dig up some proof if necessary.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 08, 2016, 09:49:09 AM

As for lies, YOU claimed English was not my native language.

A Lie.

Find the post where I claimed that.

Back on November 27 when you made the fallacious claim that I was another poster named luckyfred
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64532.msg1733295#msg1733295 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64532.msg1733295#msg1733295)

Also; neither your nor luckyfred's first language is English...


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 08, 2016, 10:11:04 AM
So, your argument that GPS depends on satellites DOES NOT depend upon the existence of satellites?
As Engy is so fond of pointing out, GPS does not technically require satellites to work.  And, as you like to point out, there are some location services that do work off of cell towers.  However, those cell towers do not provide global coverage and the GPS infrastructure is (with the exception of the military channels) widely available to the public.  This means that you can use your own radio equipment to track the GPS signals and determine for yourself if those signals are from stationary or moving sources.  You are also free to decode the signals and determine for yourself if the data encoded matches what the documentation says.

In fact, you can even build your own GPS receiver if you don't trust the commercially available ones.
http://hackaday.com/2011/10/01/make-your-own-gps-receiver/ (http://hackaday.com/2011/10/01/make-your-own-gps-receiver/)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 08, 2016, 10:30:51 AM
Frenat has been editing its posts in an attempt to change the past.

This is what it originally wrote:

As for lies, YOU claimed that I said English was not my native language.

It has now edited its posts to say this:

As for lies, YOU claimed English was not my native language.

It is insane.

And it will never be punished for this disgusting behaviour.

Why?

Because this forum is compromised.

Also, it still has no empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites...

Of course.

Because there is none.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 08, 2016, 10:35:24 AM
LOL!!!

Forgetful disinfo-thing frenat forgot about this post though:

I'll show you proof of GPS satellites when you show proof of your claim that I said English was not my first language. Then you can move on to all your other claims you've never provided a bit of evidence for.

What a loser.

I wonder if it is insane enough to go back & retro-edit this one too?

We shall find out!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 08, 2016, 10:38:32 AM

I've been waiting so long for you to prove your claim I misremembered your exact lie.  So sue me. You still lied.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 08, 2016, 10:47:49 AM
I've been waiting so long for you to prove your claim I misremembered your exact lie.  So sue me. You still lied.

No; you Lied.

What's more, you tampered with the evidence when I pointed out that you were Lying.

You would go to jail for this IRL, & your testimony as a witness would be struck from the record.

However, this being the shill-fest FES, you will be allowed to continue your spamming, lying & bullshit forever.

Because this forum is clearly & obviously controlled opposition.

Of course, the mods could always prove me wrong by perma-banning you...

LOL!!!

As if.

Toodle-pip, freaks!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 08, 2016, 10:50:55 AM
So, in other words, you CAN'T prove your claim that I'm a non-native english speaker then?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 08, 2016, 12:36:40 PM
Well, I just proved you're a Liar who is prepared to tamper with evidence to cover its bone-headed Lies, so I'd say you're done here.

Generally, though, LOL at all you frenzied yet Powerless idiots trying to Control a thing that you cannot even comprehend...

Cos Legba sees all voodoo, all the time; it's my fucking job, you cretins!

Hey; want a laugh?

Check out how a Teller-Ulam Thermonuclear Warhead allegedly functions...

LMFAO!!!

This is the kinda preposterous shit that Powerless people have to dream up in order to Control you.

Ah, good times...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 08, 2016, 12:55:24 PM
^Has nothing.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 12:08:51 AM
And STILL no genuine empirical evidence for the existence of 'GPS satellites'...

We're in for a long wait, folks.

So let's laugh at the Penn & Teller Magical H-bomb in the meantime...

Check it out; it's a doozy!

Also, seems the 'technology' for storing & using liquid hydrogen as shpayze-rokkit fuel came from Los Alamos.

Same place Penn & Teller dreamed up their outrageously fake 'Thermonuclear device'.

Of course, the idea of using a liquid that is at -253C as a rocket fuel is beyond ridiculous...

LOX was problematical enough & that was only -183C.

But hey, believe in this tottering heap of phantasmagorical bullshit if you like...

After all, it only helps Powerless people to Control you.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 09, 2016, 01:51:04 AM
And STILL no genuine empirical evidence for the existence of 'GPS satellites'...

We're in for a long wait, folks.

So let's laugh at the Penn & Teller Magical H-bomb in the meantime...

Check it out; it's a doozy!

Also, seems the 'technology' for storing & using liquid hydrogen as shpayze-rokkit fuel came from Los Alamos.

Same place Penn & Teller dreamed up their outrageously fake 'Thermonuclear device'.

Of course, the idea of using a liquid that is at -253C as a rocket fuel is beyond ridiculous...

LOX was problematical enough & that was only -183C.

But hey, believe in this tottering heap of phantasmagorical bullshit if you like...

After all, it only helps Powerless people to Control you.
Apart from the documentation available, the tests and observations and no proof the service works in any other way.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 02:01:49 AM
'Observations', eh?

I think you will find that none of you has provided any means whatsoever for me to OBSERVE a 'GPS satellite' in situ.

Which is what I require; genuine, empirical evidence please!

I can OBSERVE chemtrails.

I can OBSERVE cellphone towers.

But I cannot OBSERVE your magical 'GPS satellites'.

Perhaps you should get Penn & teller in to help you?

Alternatively, Lying then retro-editing your posts to cover up your Lying is still an option.

Really; can you not OBSERVE how dishonest you have all been throughout this entire thread?

Because I can.

Which is why you are Powerless to Control me.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on April 09, 2016, 05:32:39 AM
Which is why you are Powerless to Control me.
Why on earth would we want to control you! You have a grossly overblown sense of you own self-worth is you think anyone cares!

PS Your ersatz Tinfoil[nb]Aluminium![/nb] Hat must be worn out by now!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 06:37:12 AM

Alternatively, Lying then retro-editing your posts to cover up your Lying is still an option.

I was mistaken about your exact quote.  I should not have edited the posts.  I admit that.  I was more concerned with accuracy when I realized my mistake on your quote.
You still made the claim I was not a native English speaker and you still have not proven that.  Like all of your other claims you've never proven, right?
But hey, why don't you spend a few more pages harping on about me because that's more important to you than anything else, right?  You're not obsessed, right?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 06:43:14 AM
God Almighty, will all you JREF Clowns just stop taking it in turns to blow hot air out your asses on my thread?

It's a bit bloody obvious what your game is, you know?

Instead, why not just provide genuine empirical evidence that 'GPS satellites' exist.

Why is this so hard for you to do?

www.bolenreport.com (http://www.bolenreport.com) may help explain...

And frenat; why are you not banned?

Whatever... You have lost all credibility here, so stop whining & butt out.

Buncha psychotic lying creeps you all are...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 09, 2016, 06:50:50 AM
Which is what I require; genuine, empirical evidence please!

I can OBSERVE chemtrails.

I can OBSERVE cellphone towers.
Can you observe the cellphone signals bouncing off the chemtrails?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 06:57:34 AM
Can you observe the cellphone signals bouncing off the chemtrails?

Don't need to, puppet-master.

Just need to EMPIRICALLY OBSERVE that chemtrails exist & combine that with the following (thanks, frenat!):

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Simple stuff, sadly for you.

Now, once again, please provide genuine empirical evidence that 'GPS satellites' exist.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 09, 2016, 07:22:54 AM
Can you observe the cellphone signals bouncing off the chemtrails?

Don't need to, puppet-master.

Just need to EMPIRICALLY OBSERVE that chemtrails exist & combine that with the following (thanks, frenat!):

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Simple stuff, sadly for you.
So you have no empirical evidence that cell towers are used in troposcatter?  Good to know.

Now, once again, please provide genuine empirical evidence that 'GPS satellites' exist.
Sure, once you provide some empirical evidence that cell towers are used in troposcatter.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 09:01:24 AM
Can you observe the cellphone signals bouncing off the chemtrails?

Don't need to, puppet-master.

Just need to EMPIRICALLY OBSERVE that chemtrails exist & combine that with the following (thanks, frenat!):

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Simple stuff, sadly for you.

Now, once again, please provide genuine empirical evidence that 'GPS satellites' exist.
you have observed trails exist.  You have NOT proven they have anything other than what you'd expect from a contrail.
You have ignored the fact that troposcatter would not be useful for GPS as it requires precision timing and your proposed reflection surface is constantly moving and shifting so any precision would go out the window as your signals would constantly be reflecting.  No matter how much you cherry-pick my statement about tropscatter, you have not proven it is happening or that it would be useful for GPS.
Does GPS stop working when there are no trails in the sky?  No. 
Regardless of whether it is possible for sprayed reflective particles to enhance troposcatter, you have not proven it is happening.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 09:11:31 AM
Can you observe the cellphone signals bouncing off the chemtrails?

*Yawn!*

Radio signals are invisible, puppet-master.

Much like the 'GPS satellites' you claim exist but have now given up on even attempting to provide evidence for...

Seems you've gone the frenat route now; demanding evidence from me which I have no onus to provide.

Because 'GPS' can all be done with ground-based systems.

Already had been for years, in fact; you know - LORAN?

So if you wish to insert sci-fi bullshit 'satellites' into the narrative then you WILL provide genuine empirical evidence for their existence...

Yes; you will do this thing.

But you can't, can you?

Why ever not?

LOL!!!

Because they do not exist.

Chemtrails do.

Cellphone towers do.

Troposcatter does.

Satellites though?

Nah.

Only in Star fucking Trek, you Losers...

Powerless, out-of-Control, LOSERS.

Oh, & LMAO at how frenat managed to post just as I was writing my own reply for the SECOND time today...

Yeah; BIG co-incidence that!

Of course, frenat should be banned anyway for his retro-editing & lying...

But he won't be.

Clown Derfers NEVER get banned here.

NEVER.

Why?

Because this forum is utterly compromised & is controlled opposition to the core.

Note that, free-thinkers & neutrals...

Note that very carefully!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 09:17:09 AM
Chemtrails do.
then prove it.  Trails exist that happen to look exactly like contrails and show up when conditions are right for persistent contrails.  You haven't proven they are anything else.

Oh, & LMAO at how frenat managed to post just as I was writing my own reply for the SECOND time today...

Yeah; BIG co-incidence that!
Paranoid much?  I have no way of knowing when you may or may not be posting nor do I care.  I post when I see something worth replying to and have the time to do so.  If you have proof otherwise then present it. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 09, 2016, 09:26:52 AM
Can you observe the cellphone signals bouncing off the chemtrails?

*Yawn!*

Radio signals are invisible, puppet-master.

Much like the 'GPS satellites' you claim exist but have now given up on even attempting to provide evidence for...

Seems you've gone the frenat route now; demanding evidence from me which I have no onus to provide.

Because 'GPS' can all be done with ground-based systems.

Already had been for years, in fact; you know - LORAN?

So if you wish to insert sci-fi bullshit 'satellites' into the narrative then you WILL provide genuine empirical evidence for their existence...

Yes; you will do this thing.

But you can't, can you?

Why ever not?

LOL!!!

Because they do not exist.

Chemtrails do.

Cellphone towers do.

Troposcatter does.

Satellites though?

Nah.

Only in Star fucking Trek, you Losers...

Powerless, out-of-Control, LOSERS.

Oh, & LMAO at how frenat managed to post just as I was writing my own reply for the SECOND time today...

Yeah; BIG co-incidence that!

Of course, frenat should be banned anyway for his retro-editing & lying...

But he won't be.

Clown Derfers NEVER get banned here.

NEVER.

Why?

Because this forum is utterly compromised & is controlled opposition to the core.

Note that, free-thinkers & neutrals...

Note that very carefully!
What does my satellite tv dish receive from?  And please explain how the alignment fits in with satellites and a round earth.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 09, 2016, 09:40:23 AM
Can you observe the cellphone signals bouncing off the chemtrails?

*Yawn!*

Radio signals are invisible, puppet-master.

Much like the 'GPS satellites' you claim exist but have now given up on even attempting to provide evidence for...
I've already told you that the evidence of GPS satellites is in the signals.  Feel free to track and analyze the signals and see for yourself if they are consistent with troposcatter or satellites.

Seems you've gone the frenat route now; demanding evidence from me which I have no onus to provide.
So you're saying that we should just take your word for the cell tower/troposcatter connection without any empirical evidence?

Because 'GPS' can all be done with ground-based systems.

Already had been for years, in fact; you know - LORAN?
Except that LORAN did not provide global coverage and neither do cell towers.

So if you wish to insert sci-fi bullshit 'satellites' into the narrative then you WILL provide genuine empirical evidence for their existence...
Just what evidence would satisfy you?  Do you want a trip into orbit so that you can see one for yourself?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 10:04:29 AM
*Yawn!*

Frenat just Lied, then retro-edited its posts to cover up its Lies.

And not one of you JREF-ugees said a thing about it.

Not one of you.

This is clear Proof that you all act in concert & cover for or condone each other's mistakes, no matter how vile.

Now; cough up some empirical evidence that 'GPS satellites' exist or STFU & GTFO, scumbag.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 09, 2016, 10:14:31 AM
*Yawn!*

Frenat just Lied, then retro-edited its posts to cover up its Lies.

And not one of you JREF-ugees said a thing about it.

Not one of you.

This is clear Proof that you all act in concert & cover for or condone each other's mistakes, no matter how vile.

Now; cough up some empirical evidence that 'GPS satellites' exist or STFU & GTFO, scumbag.
Personal abuse does not prove you correct.

If you have some evidence then produce it.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 10:16:04 AM
I was mistaken and edited my post for accuracy when the mistake was realized.  Difference is in intent.

You seem obsessed.  Too bad that obsession doesn't apply to providing evidence for you claims.


Prove the trails we see are "chemtrails".  I'll bet you can't.  Here we are, 340 posts into the thread and you haven't yet proved your "chemtrails" exist.  Interesting how these trails look exactly like contrails and appear where and when contrails should.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 10:28:50 AM
I was mistaken about your exact quote.  I should not have edited the posts.

^PROVEN LIAR THAT THINKS I WILL EVER READ ANOTHER OF ITS LIES.

I WILL NOT.

NEITHER SHOULD YOU.

YOU SHOULD ASK WHY NONE OF ITS CRONIES CONDEMNED ITS BEHAVIOUR THOUGH.

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.

AND YOU WILL NEVER GET AN ANSWER FROM THEM.

BECAUSE THEY ARE A HIVE-MIND DISINFO-GANG WHO NEVER BREAK RANKS.

NEVER.

EVER.

EVER.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 10:33:14 AM
As if you've ever read anything I've posted before. 

So you can't prove the trails we see are "chemtrails".  Thought so.  You're nothing but a fraud.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 01:23:57 PM
God almighty can you just make ONE post that you don't have to retro-edit you fucking maniac?

Wtf is WRONG with you?

This place, & every single person on it, is utterly, totally, completely, FUBAR.

Really.

How the mods can allow things like frenat to continue posting is beyond me.

Ever get the feeling you've been had?

I mean really HAD?

Teh ewrf izz fladd!!!

TEH ERRFFF IZZ FLWADDD!!!

Shittiest Strawman ever...

Grow up.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
And still no proof of "chemtrails".  Instead we're treated to a rant about a post edited only 4 minutes after posting to correct spelling and add the first sentence.  You just want to distract people from the fact that you can't prove "chemtrails" even exist, don't you?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 01:40:02 PM
345 posts and STILL no proof of "chemtrails".
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 09, 2016, 01:48:51 PM
We can see them you liar.

What more 'proof' do you need?


EDIT: offensive language removed
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on April 09, 2016, 01:51:40 PM
We can see them you liar.

What more 'proof' do you need?

Dumb lying disinfo-penguin.

You can easily see contrails. However, you have not provided any evidence that they are chemtrails and not contrails.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 01:52:24 PM
We can see them you liar.

What more 'proof' do you need?
You see trails that look exactly like contrails and show up when we expect contrails to show up.  So how do you KNOW they are "chemtrails"?  As for proof, some proof of the claimed content would be a start.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
350 posts now and STILL no proof of "chemtrails".
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on April 09, 2016, 02:12:35 PM
You say you don't believe in a flat earth right?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 09, 2016, 02:14:11 PM
IF it is the truth, then prove it.  Prove the trails are "chemtrails" and not just contrails".  Prove they have the content and purpose you claim.

I have NOT said you are not seeing trails.  I have repeatedly asked you to prove they are what you claim they are.  You have provided zero evidence for your claims and want everyone to believe you anyway.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 09, 2016, 02:53:42 PM
Terrified of me aintcha, you dumb penguins?
Terrified of what? 

You're all bark and no bite. 

All bluster with no substance.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on April 09, 2016, 09:11:01 PM
In-Flight entertainment on every GulfStream.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 23, 2016, 04:05:42 PM
Wow! Managed to forum-slide this thread back a whole two pages eh, shills?

Nice try, but a wasted effort alas...

Still, let's see how long it takes for proven liar & shit-at-his-job shill frenat to astroturf this post, huh?

I'm guessing 20 minutes max...

Or maybe super-shill-with-access-to-the-forum-architecture markjo will do it instead - who can tell here, there's so VERY many shills to choose from!

Whatever; I got a lulzy tale to tell you on this subject...

But it can wait.

For now, I just want to see which of you filth are still assigned to me & how you plan to operate...

The head-games will start later.

Toodle-pip, shill-people on your shill-run forum; enjoy your shilling!

Oh, nearly forgot - ICfreely on cluesforum is still a disturbingly creepy disinfo-thing too...

Hi psyopticon/evil edna/rayzor/etc; I'm loving your new 'I am Persian but also American even though I use English colloquialisms' angle!

You are ALL so shit at your jobs I cannot tell you how much you tickle me...

'Songs that expose truth'; LMFAO!!!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on April 23, 2016, 04:34:35 PM
Wow! Managed to forum-slide this thread back a whole two pages eh, shills?

Nice try, but a wasted effort alas...

Still, let's see how long it takes for proven liar & shit-at-his-job shill frenat to astroturf this post, huh?

I'm guessing 20 minutes max...

Or maybe super-shill-with-access-to-the-forum-architecture markjo will do it instead - who can tell here, there's so VERY many shills to choose from!

Whatever; I got a lulzy tale to tell you on this subject...

But it can wait.

For now, I just want to see which of you filth are still assigned to me & how you plan to operate...

The head-games will start later.

Toodle-pip, shill-people on your shill-run forum; enjoy your shilling!

Oh, nearly forgot - ICfreely on cluesforum is still a disturbingly creepy disinfo-thing too...

Hi psyopticon/evil edna/rayzor/etc; I'm loving your new 'I am Persian but also American even though I use English colloquialisms' angle!

You are ALL so shit at your jobs I cannot tell you how much you tickle me...

'Songs that expose truth'; LMFAO!!!

Hello again, Legba.  Nobody missed you. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on April 24, 2016, 12:07:56 PM
Wow! Managed to forum-slide this thread back a whole two pages eh, shills?

Nice try, but a wasted effort alas...

Still, let's see how long it takes for proven liar & shit-at-his-job shill frenat to astroturf this post, huh?

I'm guessing 20 minutes max...

Or maybe super-shill-with-access-to-the-forum-architecture markjo will do it instead - who can tell here, there's so VERY many shills to choose from!

Whatever; I got a lulzy tale to tell you on this subject...

But it can wait.

For now, I just want to see which of you filth are still assigned to me & how you plan to operate...

The head-games will start later.

Toodle-pip, shill-people on your shill-run forum; enjoy your shilling!

Oh, nearly forgot - ICfreely on cluesforum is still a disturbingly creepy disinfo-thing too...

Hi psyopticon/evil edna/rayzor/etc; I'm loving your new 'I am Persian but also American even though I use English colloquialisms' angle!

You are ALL so shit at your jobs I cannot tell you how much you tickle me...

'Songs that expose truth'; LMFAO!!!

It's your own fault for not responding so of course it wouldn't be active, DUH!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 24, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
Hello again, Legba.  Nobody missed you.

LOL!!!

Psycho alert!

'Defender of NASA' eh?

With all their billions, they need 'defending' from what, exactly, psycho?

Obscure nobodies on even more obscure flat earth forums?

LMAO!!!

You've lost before you've even begun & don't even know it, you sad sack...

It's your own fault for not responding so of course it wouldn't be active, DUH!

LOL!!!

No; it's you Clown shill freak's faults for creating a ton of bullshit empty threads to slide it onto page three you maniac.

What a Loser...

So; Blue Moon the proven military shill & gay cannon-fodder fake 'twoofer' Puke 24/7/365 so far...

Any other JREF shill-spawn wanna throw their hats in the ring before we continue?

Come on - fill your boots, pedos!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 24, 2016, 01:40:37 PM
You know billions doesn't go that far these days
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 24, 2016, 01:50:12 PM
Quote from: markjo of course...link=topic=65626.msg1775525#msg1775525 date=1461530437
You know billions doesn't go that far these days

LOL!!!

So now the 'defender of NASA' needs a defender too?

Where will your bullshit end you muppets?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on April 24, 2016, 02:02:25 PM
Hello again, Legba.  Nobody missed you.

LOL!!!

Psycho alert!

'Defender of NASA' eh?

With all their billions, they need 'defending' from what, exactly, psycho?

Obscure nobodies on even more obscure flat earth forums?

LMAO!!!

You've lost before you've even begun & don't even know it, you sad sack...

It's your own fault for not responding so of course it wouldn't be active, DUH!

LOL!!!

No; it's you Clown shill freak's faults for creating a ton of bullshit empty threads to slide it onto page three you maniac.

What a Loser...

So; Blue Moon the proven military shill & gay cannon-fodder fake 'twoofer' Puke 24/7/365 so far...

Any other JREF shill-spawn wanna throw their hats in the ring before we continue?

Come on - fill your boots, pedos!

Was that supposed to be insulting?  It seems like you're desperate for attention, so you're trying to provoke a response in any way you can.  It won't work on me, especially with nonsense like that.  I suggest you see a therapist. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 24, 2016, 02:05:20 PM
Hello again, Legba.  Nobody missed you.

LOL!!!

Psycho alert!

'Defender of NASA' eh?

With all their billions, they need 'defending' from what, exactly, psycho?

Obscure nobodies on even more obscure flat earth forums?

LMAO!!!

You've lost before you've even begun & don't even know it, you sad sack...

It's your own fault for not responding so of course it wouldn't be active, DUH!

LOL!!!

No; it's you Clown shill freak's faults for creating a ton of bullshit empty threads to slide it onto page three you maniac.

What a Loser...

So; Blue Moon the proven military shill & gay cannon-fodder fake 'twoofer' Puke 24/7/365 so far...

Any other JREF shill-spawn wanna throw their hats in the ring before we continue?

Come on - fill your boots, pedos!

Was that supposed to be insulting?  It seems like you're desperate for attention, so you're trying to provoke a response in any way you can.  It won't work on me, especially with nonsense like that.  I suggest you see a therapist.
Oh he is just a special little guy....he is fun in a cat trying to catch a laser pointer type of way. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 24, 2016, 02:44:16 PM
Oh look - 'babyhighspeed' has already learnt markjo's 'turn the page & grab top spot' trick...

You know how?

Because it's markjo.

Nice of him to defend the defender of NASA anyhoo; we get a lot of that round here for some reason...

I wonder why?

Oh; anyone got any genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites yet btw?

That'd help your case!

I suspect you'll just have a heap of bullshit & 'NO U!!!' instead, however...

Last time I asked I got some weird story about camping in the woods or some shit...

I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR YOUR REPRESSED ABUSE MEMORIES OKAY, JREF-ERS!

NICE MISTER RANDI WOULD NOT APPROVE!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on April 24, 2016, 03:53:47 PM
Hello again, Legba.  Nobody missed you.

LOL!!!

Psycho alert!

'Defender of NASA' eh?

With all their billions, they need 'defending' from what, exactly, psycho?

Obscure nobodies on even more obscure flat earth forums?

LMAO!!!

You've lost before you've even begun & don't even know it, you sad sack...

It's your own fault for not responding so of course it wouldn't be active, DUH!

LOL!!!

No; it's you Clown shill freak's faults for creating a ton of bullshit empty threads to slide it onto page three you maniac.

What a Loser...

So; Blue Moon the proven military shill & gay cannon-fodder fake 'twoofer' Puke 24/7/365 so far...

Any other JREF shill-spawn wanna throw their hats in the ring before we continue?

Come on - fill your boots, pedos!

Wow! First I'm gay and now every round earther is a pedo. Now its still your fault because no matter how many threads are made you can still update your own by posting on it. I have dead threads of my own and in fact I have one that needs my response but I keep forgetting about it. You haven't respond in a while and therefore the thread was inactive.

The only one that believes in chem trails besides you in this thread is me and I didnt feel this topic called for my response (mainly due to the fact that I don't like to be associated with you).
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 24, 2016, 03:56:46 PM
Papa ...I knew that would ruffle your feathers, I did learn from researching some of your post how much that rattles your cage :)

Palmerito0.....can you post that every time hiewa post, he is a powerful troll that I am attempting to run off. At least Papa's shenanigans are sometimes a bit cheeky. Kind of like watching a horse try to get a carrot tied to a stick on its head. You know it will never get the carrot, you kinda feel bad for it in a way, yet you still watch it attempt.

That's pretty much like Papa, especially his rash string of insults that are used to cover the fact that is evidence come from dreams he has had fueled by too alcohol and  potato chips before bed.

However, heiwa's shenanigans are just cruel and tragic... Not humorous what so ever, he has a chance of genuinely harming someone.


EDIT: Images irrelevant to the topic at hand has been removed. ~Jack
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 24, 2016, 04:05:33 PM

The only one that believes in chem trails besides you in this thread is me and I didnt feel this topic called for my response (mainly due to the fact that I don't like to be associated with you).

You never struck me as a chem trail type of guy. I have never really looked into it much, however never really found need to. That is something I still work alot with and quite familiar with alot of the jet engine designs . Just not sure how they would actually get foreign substances in the chambers to burn, where they would put the substance ect. Maybe I could be missing something, as I said I haven't looked into it much. I could get some pretty cool pictures of some drive engines and fan jet engines if that will help you with your research. I do contractor work for L.M. here in Dallas, about once to twice a month. I have one coming up. I can get pictures of things excluding the restricted area, there I have to dump pockets ect and use their tools and instruments.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 25, 2016, 02:15:42 AM
Just not sure how they would actually get foreign substances in the chambers to burn, where they would put the substance ect

Who says they're putting foreign substances in the engine chamber to burn, dickhead?

Not me.

Lying dickhead.

As for where they'd put 'the substance'; ooh, I dunno?

In an airplane perhaps?

Or are airplanes not capable of carrying tanks of liquids now?

Better tell all them KC-135 operators pronto, as well as every aerial firefighting & cropdusting equipment provider, everywhere, ever!

Dickhead.

Now; drop the 'I work as an aerospace contractor' schtick you conman & show me the genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist I've been requesting for pages, eh?

That would help your bullshit argument gain traction...



Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 25, 2016, 04:56:02 AM
Hello??? Is anyone listening??? Markjo...are you there? Markjo!! I have to tell you how I feel!!

Oh legba, I always find it cute when you try to communicate with humans. Ever seen it when I dog trys to talk, yeah we dont understand a single thing it said, but it sure is cute when it trys.

Once again, research is just not something that's a good look for you is it? If you would have read even the post you were "responding" to, you would have seen that was aviation work. I am sorry to say my angry little friend, Lockheed Martin does use private contractors for specialized tasks. Sporadic tasks that is cheaper to bring in contractors instead of holding full time employees, paying them benefits ect.

Also if you would have read other things I have posted....or maybe the first thing I ever posted....you might have realized I have almost nill of aerospace work anymore. Since the privatised sector was stomped out by the big 7 and their governments.

Also unlike SOME people I will prove what I say if need be, have already done it once, will do it again if I get the wild hair. You know, proof and evidence...I know those are strange words, Google is your friend

Once again, gathering information from places other than YouTube and drunken junk food fueled dreams is possible you know....

MARKJO!!!!!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 25, 2016, 05:27:00 AM
Cool story, psycho.

But you forgot this:

Now; drop the 'I work as an aerospace contractor' schtick you conman & show me the genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist I've been requesting for pages, eh?

That would help your bullshit argument gain traction...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 25, 2016, 06:11:11 AM
Reading comprehension is also not my strong suit. Hey?? Where is markjo?

Well, as I said the work I was referring to was AVIATION not AREOSPACE you can look up the difference if need be. I have stated the aerospace work as all but dried up in the last 3 to 4 years. After the big 7 and their government enforcers destroyed the private sector or bought them out. Doesn't that fit with your conspiracy model?

I have also said there is a possibility that parts I have built along with the many other people like myself, they could all be burried in the hills of Terlingua somewhere. Do I consider it likely no, however is it possible... yes. If you want truth so bad, instead of yelling, help find funding for the 3 stage I am trying to finish. It's 25 percent done with 50 percent give or take of the materials already in hand. Think about what that would end??? Earth shape, size, rocket dynamics in a vacuum, if it is even a vacuum ect ect ect. Then all there would be left is arguing about the data received. That is if we can even get to space, if it hits 200 km, hits something hard, then explodes...then I guess we have that answer too.

I have a jar of bulk small ball bearings, about half way full. I shook it yesterday and thought of you ;D You are fun sometimes though.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 25, 2016, 06:44:56 AM
Cool story, psycho.

But you forgot this:

Now; drop the 'I work as an aerospace contractor' schtick you conman & show me the genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist I've been requesting for pages, eh?

That would help your bullshit argument gain traction...

There is zero evidence that GPS actually operates in any way other than that stated.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 25, 2016, 01:17:45 PM
*Yawn!*

You could all 'difeet & disstroi' me for ever if only you'd do this:

Now; drop the 'I work as an aerospace contractor' schtick you conman & show me the genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist I've been requesting for pages, eh?

That would help your bullshit argument gain traction...

But you just can't, can you?

Starting to look a little suspicious, no?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: DanneJeRusse on April 25, 2016, 01:31:24 PM
*Yawn!*

You could all 'difeet & disstroi' me for ever if only you'd do this:

Now; drop the 'I work as an aerospace contractor' schtick you conman & show me the genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist I've been requesting for pages, eh?

That would help your bullshit argument gain traction...

But you just can't, can you?

Starting to look a little suspicious, no?

hehe, that's like asking us to show you deep sea hydrothermal vents. A little dumb, yes?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 25, 2016, 01:38:15 PM
Not at all.

Nice strawman though, obvious sock-puppet shill.

Now, again:

Now; drop the 'I work as an aerospace contractor' schtick you conman & show me the genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist I've been requesting for pages, eh?

That would help your bullshit argument gain traction...

Come on; show me them.

If you can't, then my hypothesis - which you have already admitted to be perfectly technically feasible btw - wins by default.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on April 25, 2016, 02:11:17 PM
The fact GPS works regardless of location.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on April 25, 2016, 03:22:25 PM

If you can't, then my hypothesis - which you have already admitted to be perfectly technically feasible btw - wins by default.
If by admitted you mean you ignored all the parts that show your hypothesis won't work.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: DanneJeRusse on April 25, 2016, 04:03:18 PM
Not at all.

Yes, it is exactly like that, we can no more take you into orbit to see the satellites themselves than we can go to the bottom of the ocean to see the vents. If you deny other sources of information as fraudulent, then observing the satellites yourself would be the only way to convince you. Or, would you deny that, too?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: CaptainMagpie on April 25, 2016, 04:50:42 PM
Chemtrials got declassified a long time ago. You can even go look up the patients for the aerosol system used to spray it that they attach to aircraft. I my memory serves I think it is even a CIA patient.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 26, 2016, 08:05:21 AM
If by admitted you mean you ignored all the parts that show your hypothesis won't work.

More Lies from a proven Liar who retro-edits his posts to cover his Lying Lies.

we can no more take you into orbit to see the satellites themselves than we can go to the bottom of the ocean to see the vents.

Again with the creepy 'we'...

You sock-puppet shills love the old JREF 'We' don't you?

Anyhoo; as GPS satellites, & the means to deploy them, are in clear violation of all the Laws of physics as described, then yes, I would have to see them in situ to believe they exist.

Plus be given a new set of laws of physics to explain their presence.

In the absence of that, my hypothesis - which uses known technology & is in complete accord with known physical laws - seems a tad more... Probable.

You know how you autistic JREF shills love Occam's razor?

Try applying it for once, eh?

Toodle-pip, Level 50 Wizards!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 26, 2016, 09:12:49 AM
If by admitted you mean you ignored all the parts that show your hypothesis won't work.

More Lies from a proven Liar who retro-edits his posts to cover his Lying Lies.

we can no more take you into orbit to see the satellites themselves than we can go to the bottom of the ocean to see the vents.

Again with the creepy 'we'...

You sock-puppet shills love the old JREF 'We' don't you?

Anyhoo; as GPS satellites, & the means to deploy them, are in clear violation of all the Laws of physics as described, then yes, I would have to see them in situ to believe they exist.

Plus be given a new set of laws of physics to explain their presence.

In the absence of that, my hypothesis - which uses known technology & is in complete accord with known physical laws - seems a tad more... Probable.

You know how you autistic JREF shills love Occam's razor?

Try applying it for once, eh?

Toodle-pip, Level 50 Wizards!
Are you OK with geostationary satellites for broadcast and communication?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 26, 2016, 10:06:42 AM
If by admitted you mean you ignored all the parts that show your hypothesis won't work.

More Lies from a proven Liar who retro-edits his posts to cover his Lying Lies.

we can no more take you into orbit to see the satellites themselves than we can go to the bottom of the ocean to see the vents.

Again with the creepy 'we'...

You sock-puppet shills love the old JREF 'We' don't you?

Anyhoo; as GPS satellites, & the means to deploy them, are in clear violation of all the Laws of physics as described, then yes, I would have to see them in situ to believe they exist.

Plus be given a new set of laws of physics to explain their presence.

In the absence of that, my hypothesis - which uses known technology & is in complete accord with known physical laws - seems a tad more... Probable.

You know how you autistic JREF shills love Occam's razor?

Try applying it for once, eh?

Toodle-pip, Level 50 Wizards!

Ha ha...I have to give you credit, just when I think you are out of insults you crap more out. Must be the same toilet you pass your evidence in.

I would calm down with the physics talk, your understanding of physics is no better than a birds understanding of glass. Go ahead, keep banging against it, you might get through this time....or this time...or this time....or this time...or...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 26, 2016, 12:58:48 PM
LOL!!!

Same old sock-puppet psychos doing the same old gaslighting & mirroring...

Do you not yet realise I'm completely immune to that shit?

Now; PLEASE PROVIDE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE OF THE EXISTENCE OF GPS SATELLITES.

Because if you can not, then Occam's razor means I am correct.

So get to work, Shills...

'Hi-Ho, Hi-Ho, it's off to Shill we go...'

Dig me out a 'GPS satellite' from your Walt Disney cartoon-mine, seventy-seven JREF dwarves!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 26, 2016, 03:45:45 PM
Analyze the gps signal. You will see the satellite is in space.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 26, 2016, 03:46:15 PM
LOL!!!

Same old sock-puppet psychos doing the same old gaslighting & mirroring...

Do you not yet realise I'm completely immune to that shit?

Now; PLEASE PROVIDE EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE OF THE EXISTENCE OF GPS SATELLITES.

Because if you can not, then Occam's razor means I am correct.

So get to work, Shills...

'Hi-Ho, Hi-Ho, it's off to Shill we go...'

Dig me out a 'GPS satellite' from your Walt Disney cartoon-mine, seventy-seven JREF dwarves!
Please provide details and evidence of your theory of operation, including some transmitter locations and their documentation.

Please show where gps.gov is incorrect.

Empirical evidence includes experimental results, please show yours.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 26, 2016, 10:39:22 PM
Don't need to do any of that.

Stop trying to turn the tables, shills.

YOU claim GPS requires satellites, yet YOU can show not one single shred of genuine empirical evidence they exist.

Occam's razor therefore states my hypothesis is more likely, as it does not require the ASSUMPTION of the existence of invisible, physics-defying, flying trashcans in shpayze.

You are the weakest links - goodbye!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Woody on April 26, 2016, 10:55:03 PM
Don't need to do any of that.

Stop trying to turn the tables, shills.

YOU claim GPS requires satellites, yet YOU can show not one single shred of genuine empirical evidence they exist.

Occam's razor therefore states my hypothesis is more likely, as it does not require the ASSUMPTION of the existence of invisible, physics-defying, flying trashcans in shpayze.

You are the weakest links - goodbye!

Empirical Evidence:

LORAN C only covered a limited amount of the globe, GPS covers the entire globe.

(http://jproc.ca/hyperbolic/lorc_coverage.gif)

LORAN C and GPS use different frequencies.

GPS satellites transmit their location.  There are open source programs written by people not affiliated with any government agency that work.  These programs and calculations used can be reviewed by anyone interested. Example: http://gnss-sdr.org/ (http://gnss-sdr.org/)

You can take advantage of the doppler shift and track satellites and determine there distance from you. 
https://amateurgeophysics.wordpress.com/earth-orbiting-satellites/the-doppler-shift-of-satellite-radio-beacons/ (https://amateurgeophysics.wordpress.com/earth-orbiting-satellites/the-doppler-shift-of-satellite-radio-beacons/)

Considering the below why would "they" lie where GPS signals are coming from:

TV satellite antennas are directional and need to be orientated towards the signal source.  The orientation needed is always above the horizon and varies according to the antennas location on Earth for the same satellite.

Long exposure pictures can be taken by anyone with a relatively cheap camera:
(http://www.eurastro.de/observ/mr/aststat.jpg)
(http://www.ctcameraeye.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sats-meteor-m42.jpg)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xCDHRBZ2EcNSJa/giphy.gif)

Every civilization has studied the stars to some degree and there is no records of these stationary objects until technology advanced to the point we could put satellites in orbit. These objects in the sky coincide with launches and where TV satellite dishes need to be pointed.

Iridium flares where not observed until mid 1997.  There number increased as more of the satellites were launched.

I earned my shill paycheck for the week.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 12:20:44 AM
Empirical Evidence:

LOL!!!

Liar.

Cartoonz plus the fact that radio technology has advanced since the 1940s & (shock horror!) can use different frequencies does not constitute 'empirical evidence'.

And even if your lights in the sky are not cartoonz, both 'operation skywatch' & 'operation moonwatch' conned amateur geeks into plotting a vast amount of naturally-occurring lights in the sky for the American military to then pass of as any amount of 'shpayze-shippzez'.

Starting with Sputnik, as it happens.

You should google it; it's an all-time classic con-trick & lulzy as Hell.

So no; no shill-check for you...

Goodbye!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 27, 2016, 12:28:42 AM
Empirical Evidence:

LOL!!!

Liar.

Cartoonz plus the fact that radio technology has advanced since the 1940s & (shock horror!) can use different frequencies does not constitute 'empirical evidence'.

And even if your lights in the sky are not cartoonz, both 'operation skywatch' & 'operation moonwatch' conned amateur geeks into plotting a vast amount of naturally-occurring lights in the sky for the American military to then pass of as any amount of 'shpayze-shippzez'.

Starting with Sputnik, as it happens.

You should google it; it's an all-time classic con-trick & lulzy as Hell.

So no; no shill-check for you...

Goodbye!
Explain satellite TV reception.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 12:47:05 AM
Well, as I have repeatedly told your alzheimers-afflicted OCD little ass, all the 'satellite tv' dishes near me are pointing directly at a big old cell tower.

Perhaps there is a clue in that?

Now; genuine empirical evidence for your GPS satellites please!

Or Occam's razor will cut you bad...

Cut you bad, suckaz!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 27, 2016, 01:30:20 AM
Well, as I have repeatedly told your alzheimers-afflicted OCD little ass, all the 'satellite tv' dishes near me are pointing directly at a big old cell tower.

Perhaps there is a clue in that?

Now; genuine empirical evidence for your GPS satellites please!

Or Occam's razor will cut you bad...

Cut you bad, suckaz!
Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation. This data is recorded and analyzed by scientists and is a central process as part of the scientific method.

Analyse the GPS data. Read the documentation.  GPS receivers show moving transmitters.  Measure TV dish angles.

For GPS and satellite TV you cannot provide any measured or documented evidence for your claims.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 02:09:34 AM
Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation.

Exactly.

And neither Observation nor Experiment can confirm the existence of flying trashcans 20,000 miles up in the sky.

It can, however, confirm the existence of airplanes, chemtrails & cell-phone towers.

Just as it can confirm that all the 'satellite TV' antennas near me point directly at a big cell tower.

A point that you ignored...

Again.

Instead, you pulled the usual shill-trick of exhorting me to waste valuable time poring over fake data...

Ah; the old ones are the best, eh?

You are the shilliest link - Goodbye!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 27, 2016, 02:39:53 AM
Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation.

Exactly.

And neither Observation nor Experiment can confirm the existence of flying trashcans 20,000 miles up in the sky.

It can, however, confirm the existence of airplanes, chemtrails & cell-phone towers.

Just as it can confirm that all the 'satellite TV' antennas near me point directly at a big cell tower.

A point that you ignored...

Again.

Instead, you pulled the usual shill-trick of exhorting me to waste valuable time poring over fake data...

Ah; the old ones are the best, eh?

You are the shilliest link - Goodbye!
Other satellite dishes point at transmitters in space.  Look beyond your area.

Try this http://www.dishpointer.com/ (http://www.dishpointer.com/)  Any problems with it?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 04:01:18 AM
Not looking at your garbage link.

Cos it won't prove satellites exist, it'll just prove a signal comes from a certain direction...

At best.

And, in the case of the 'satellite TV' dishes near me, that direction co-incides with a big cell-phone tower...

I'm looking at the goddamn thing right now.

See, THAT'S what I mean by genuine empirical evidence, inquisi-bot.

Now go fetch me a new set of laws of physics so I can believe in your flying shpayze-trashcans, or bug out, loser.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 27, 2016, 05:08:05 AM
Not looking at your garbage link.

Cos it won't prove satellites exist, it'll just prove a signal comes from a certain direction...

At best.

And, in the case of the 'satellite TV' dishes near me, that direction co-incides with a big cell-phone tower...

I'm looking at the goddamn thing right now.

See, THAT'S what I mean by genuine empirical evidence, inquisi-bot.

Now go fetch me a new set of laws of physics so I can believe in your flying shpayze-trashcans, or bug out, loser.
If you do the maths on a particular satellite from several locations you will prove its location in space.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 05:54:05 AM
If I 'do the math' on all the 'satellite TV' dishes near me I'll prove the satellite's located on a big old celltower, not 'space'.

I keep on telling you this, yet you seem unable to process the data, inquisi-bot...

Are you autistic? Or even human?

And how's it going with that new set of laws of physics btw?

I'll be needing them if you expect me to believe in your flying trashcans over established & empirically observable technology...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 27, 2016, 06:09:11 AM
If I 'do the math' on all the 'satellite TV' dishes near me I'll prove the satellite's located on a big old celltower, not 'space'.

I keep on telling you this, yet you seem unable to process the data, inquisi-bot...

Are you autistic? Or even human?

And how's it going with that new set of laws of physics btw?

I'll be needing them if you expect me to believe in your flying trashcans over established & empirically observable technology...
What about dishes not near you?  The maths proves where the satellites are.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 27, 2016, 06:19:54 AM
And, in the case of the 'satellite TV' dishes near me, that direction co-incides with a big cell-phone tower...

I'm looking at the goddamn thing right now.

See, THAT'S what I mean by genuine empirical evidence, inquisi-bot.
Have you analyzed the signals coming from that cell-phone tower to see if any of the frequencies match those used by satellite TV? 

Also, how did you verify that those dishes are actually pointing directly at the tower?  You do understand that satellite dishes must be aimed within one degree of the transmitter, don't you?

Now go fetch me a new set of laws of physics so I can believe in your flying shpayze-trashcans, or bug out, loser.
Newton's laws of motion aren't exactly new physics.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 06:46:58 AM
how did you verify that those dishes are actually pointing directly at the tower?

With my eyes you nutcase.

Or am I not allowed to look at things now?

I know you psychopathic thought-police would just LOVE that to be the case...

But sadly for you it isn't.

Newton's laws of motion aren't exactly new physics.

LOL!!!

Newton's laws of motion smash your 'shpayze-rokkits' to smithereens, shyster...

And so do the gas laws.

You know it as well as I do, which is why you had to get your pet fraud-mod tehEnjynner (who is now posting using the sock-ID 'ecthelion' btw, & what does THAT say about this corrupt shithole?) to lock all the threads I've kicked your sorry asses all over on this very subject.

Everyone knows this, so just give it up you sad old fraud.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 27, 2016, 06:58:53 AM
how did you verify that those dishes are actually pointing directly at the tower?

With my eyes you nutcase.

Or am I not allowed to look at things now?
So you eyeballed all of those dishes to within one degree of the cell tower?

By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?
Quote from: http://www.britannica.com/technology/parabolic-antenna/images-videos/Parabolic-satellite-dish-antenna-Satellite-dishes-are-often-shaped-like/67385
(http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/82/72982-004-9191583E.jpg)
Parabolic satellite dish antenna

Satellite dishes are often shaped like portions of a paraboloid (a parabola rotated about its central axis) in order to focus transmission signals onto the pickup receiver, or feedhorn. Typically, the section of the paraboloid used is offset from the centre so that the feedhorn and its support do not unduly block signals to the reflecting dish.
Newton's laws of motion aren't exactly new physics.

LOL!!!

Newton's laws of motion smash your 'shpayze-rokkits' to smithereens, shyster...

And so do the gas laws.
Not if you know how to apply them properly.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 27, 2016, 07:03:50 AM
(http://i64.tinypic.com/156dbo7.gif)

Come on guys, cut Legba some slack....can't you see he is really TRYING here?? I for one am impressed with his effort.

Let me slow it down just bit...GOOOOOD JOBBBBB LLEEEGGBBAA.
Have I told you today how special you are??? My special little guy!!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 07:16:50 AM
By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?

LOL!!!

You've gone mental now.

Claiming you have a proper job & just post here for fun, then spending all day spamming increasingly desperate garbage...

Give it up.

Quote
Not if you know how to apply them properly Lie like an ambulance-chasing lawyer.

Fixed your bullshit for you.

Quote from:  some random sock-puppet or other; markjo, rayzor; nobody cares any more...link=topic=65626.msg1776129#msg1776129 date=1461765830
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

Told you, freaks; everybody's onto your sock-puppet gaslighting & gang-stalking now...

It just doesn't work any more.

And, of course, you still haven't offered any genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist either...

Because there is none.

Toodle-pip, people who have jobs & degrees & everything but spend all day thought-policing a flat earth forum cos that's so likely oh yes it is!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 27, 2016, 07:36:58 AM
By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?

LOL!!!

You've gone mental now.

Claiming you have a proper job & just post here for fun, then spending all day spamming increasingly desperate garbage...
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on April 27, 2016, 07:50:53 AM
By the way, you do know that many SatTV dishes don't actually point where they appear to point, don't you?

LOL!!!

You've gone mental now.

Claiming you have a proper job & just post here for fun, then spending all day spamming increasingly desperate garbage...

Give it up.

Quote
Not if you know how to apply them properly Lie like an ambulance-chasing lawyer.

Fixed your bullshit for you.

Quote from:  some random sock-puppet or other; markjo, rayzor; nobody cares any more...link=topic=65626.msg1776129#msg1776129 date=1461765830
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

Told you, freaks; everybody's onto your sock-puppet gaslighting & gang-stalking now...

It just doesn't work any more.

And, of course, you still haven't offered any genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist either...

Because there is none.

Toodle-pip, people who have jobs & degrees & everything but spend all day thought-policing a flat earth forum cos that's so likely oh yes it is!

Gee, Legba.  That extra chromosome must really be bringing you down

...

...

.........

If you're done being a bitch, you should look up Visual GPS, which can take NMEA data from a receiver and display your position and the position of satellites it's communicating with.  This data is verifiable to be coming from moving satellites, not fixed ground stations. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 07:58:57 AM
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...

No, I think that you thinking I don't understand how sat dishes work & can't see what a sat dish in my backyard is pointing at when the thing it's pointing at is only a few hundred yards away is garbage.

Plus, grow up & get a proper job.

This data is verifiable to be coming from moving satellites, not fixed ground stations.

Suuure it is...

I'd be more inclined to believe you if you added a rolly-eye emoji though; them things are mustard!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 27, 2016, 08:07:52 AM
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...

No, I think that you thinking I don't understand how sat dishes work & can't see what a sat dish in my backyard is pointing at when the thing it's pointing at is only a few hundred yards away is garbage.

Plus, grow up & get a proper job.

This data is verifiable to be coming from moving satellites, not fixed ground stations.

Suuure it is...

I'd be more inclined to believe you if you added a rolly-eye emoji though; them things are mustard!
It's not a sat dish unless it points at a satellite.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 12:08:28 PM
It's not a sat dish unless it points at a satellite.

 ::)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 27, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
It's not a sat dish unless it points at a satellite.

 ::)
Why does bad weather knock out satellite TV so easily?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 03:20:21 PM
Cos rain gets in the satellites?

Or they're struck by lightning maybe?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 27, 2016, 04:04:08 PM
Cos rain gets in the satellites?

Or they're struck by lightning maybe?
I see you never watch TV on one.

It doesn't go out permanently. When heavy clouds show up the picture cuts in and out. Ground antenna based broadcast would not do this.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 27, 2016, 04:12:44 PM
Well, if you think that citing Encyclopedia Britannica is "desperate garbage"...

No, I think that you thinking I don't understand how sat dishes work & can't see what a sat dish in my backyard is pointing at when the thing it's pointing at is only a few hundred yards away is garbage.
Seeing as you have so much trouble understanding simple things like how rocket engines work, can you really blame me for not believing that you would understand how an off axis sat dish works?

Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on April 27, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Cos rain gets in the satellites?

Or they're struck by lightning maybe?

They get a lot of lightning and rain up there in geostationary orbit do they?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on April 27, 2016, 07:23:25 PM
Pay attention to me! Make my 5000 posts in one year count! See me! Hug me! Someone please love me!

Settle down, Papa Yaakoff. It's going to be alright.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on April 27, 2016, 11:12:38 PM
Htrrrrrrrrr! Hlllrooooghhhhhhrrrrrrr!

No, you're still not making any sense. Now slow down, and use your words.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 27, 2016, 11:19:35 PM
When heavy clouds show up the picture cuts in and out. Ground antenna based broadcast would not do this.

How old are you ffs?

It used to do it all the time when I was younger, pre-satellites.

Same goes for radio reception.

Worst. Strawman. Ever!

Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).

Directional 'scatter'?

Sounds kinda oxymoronic.

But as you are a repeatedly-proven liar, forum-manipulator & sock-puppeteer nobody will ever care what you think again.

You're lucky I even read your tortured drivel, frankly.

They get a lot of lightning and rain up there in geostationary orbit do they?

Inability to detect or understand humour is a major symptom of autism...

Hmm... 'symptom'; where have I seen that word recently?

Oh, look:

Pay attention to me! Make my 5000 posts in one year count! See me! Hug me! Someone please love me!
Settle down, Papa Yaakoff. It's going to be alright.

Seems 'Symptom' is yet another one showing symptoms of autism...

As well as being a rather obvious piss-poor gaslighting & psychopathic mirroring sock-puppet.

Physician, Heal Thyself!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 28, 2016, 05:29:05 AM
Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).

Directional 'scatter'?

Sounds kinda oxymoronic.
Umm, yeah.  Then again, you're the proponent of troposcatter, so you should know how it's used for point to point communication.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 28, 2016, 05:50:53 AM
you're the proponent of troposcatter, so you should know how it's used for point to point communication.

What, the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation?

You're the one who seems to be jumping from point to point, without actually making any...

Now; genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites please!

Been a long wait for that...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 28, 2016, 06:39:58 AM
you're the proponent of troposcatter, so you should know how it's used for point to point communication.

What, the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation?
You're the expert on the subject, so you tell me.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 28, 2016, 06:45:05 AM
'I know you are but what am I?'

Really, markjo?

LOL!!!

GTFO.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 28, 2016, 07:00:18 AM
When heavy clouds show up the picture cuts in and out. Ground antenna based broadcast would not do this.

How old are you ffs?

It used to do it all the time when I was younger, pre-satellites.

Same goes for radio reception.

Worst. Strawman. Ever!

Besides, I thought it was all troposcatter (which is also highly directional).

Directional 'scatter'?

Sounds kinda oxymoronic.

But as you are a repeatedly-proven liar, forum-manipulator & sock-puppeteer nobody will ever care what you think again.

You're lucky I even read your tortured drivel, frankly.

They get a lot of lightning and rain up there in geostationary orbit do they?

Inability to detect or understand humour is a major symptom of autism...

Hmm... 'symptom'; where have I seen that word recently?

Oh, look:

Pay attention to me! Make my 5000 posts in one year count! See me! Hug me! Someone please love me!
Settle down, Papa Yaakoff. It's going to be alright.

Seems 'Symptom' is yet another one showing symptoms of autism...

As well as being a rather obvious piss-poor gaslighting & psychopathic mirroring sock-puppet.

Physician, Heal Thyself!
Who is ffs?

Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 28, 2016, 07:33:36 AM
Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

*Yawn!*

First it was 'bad weather', now it's 'cloud cover', now the fact that you need to align a dish with a signal means satellites exist...

It's all done by bouncing radio waves around the sky one way or another; no need for magical flying trashcans 20,000 miles away in 'shpayze'.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.

I see now you can visualise objects that don't exist in your mind. Nobody cares.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 28, 2016, 07:37:03 AM
Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

*Yawn!*

First it was 'bad weather', now it's 'cloud cover', now the fact that you need to align a dish with a signal means satellites exist...

It's all done by bouncing radio waves around the sky one way or another; no need for magical flying trashcans 20,000 miles away in 'shpayze'.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.

I see now you can visualise objects that don't exist in your mind. Nobody cares.
Yawn

So now it's back to bouncing waves...


Please learn what evidence is. It would really help.


The cloud cover is what causes the signal loss in bad weather.

Satellites don't require magic. Perhaps if you had a greater education level you could see this.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 28, 2016, 07:43:12 AM
Please learn what evidence is. It would really help..

What like the evidence you have consistently NOT provided for the existence of satellites?

Or for anything man-made being in 'shpayze' whatsoever?

LOL!!!

Also, please stop mirroring my phrases; it would really help you not look like a retarded psychopathic creep.

That goes for all of you btw...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 28, 2016, 08:56:38 AM
Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

*Yawn!*

First it was 'bad weather', now it's 'cloud cover', now the fact that you need to align a dish with a signal means satellites exist...

It's all done by bouncing radio waves around the sky one way or another; no need for magical flying trashcans 20,000 miles away in 'shpayze'.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.

I see now you can visualise objects that don't exist in your mind. Nobody cares.
Please explain in detail.  Look at the link about dish alignment.  It's used by installers to align dishes.

There are not multiple transmitter masts for satellite TV channels, dishes point at satellites and give a greater coverage and channel set than would be possible with any ground based service. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 28, 2016, 09:23:03 AM
'I know you are but what am I?'
Are you unable to describe the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation, or are you just unwilling?

If you're unable to, then there is no shame in admitting it.

If you're unwilling to, then that just confirms that it's utterly futile to try to engage in a productive discussion with you.

Then again, we already know what the answer is, don't we?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 28, 2016, 12:20:57 PM
Are you unable to describe the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation, or are you just unwilling?

The kind of point to point communication required for radio triangulation is...

Wait for it...

Radio!

Kinda think I might've mentioned this already?

Poor old markjo; doesn't know that radio triangulation needs radio in order to work...

0800 323-9976: Alzheimers Hotline.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: FalseProphet on April 28, 2016, 12:37:17 PM
What kind of person considers it to be a suitable idea to say to Papa Legpants things like

Quote from: markjo on Today at 09:23:03 AM

    Are you unable to describe the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation, or are you just unwilling?



Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 28, 2016, 02:16:55 PM
What kind of idiot doesn't know that the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation is radio itself?

What kind of idiot asks such insane, circular questions in the first place?

And what kind of idiot would then come running to the aid of such an idiot to try & blame someone else for their idiocy?

The idiotic Clown Derfer shill-posse; that kind of idiot.

Thanks for proving yet again that you are a shill hive-mind, idiots; have a LMFAO to wipe away your idiotic tears with...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: FalseProphet on April 28, 2016, 02:21:53 PM
TAKE-DOWN-THE-GUN!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 28, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
Are you unable to describe the kind of point-to-point communication required for radio triangulation, or are you just unwilling?

The kind of point to point communication required for radio triangulation is...

Wait for it...

Radio!
How well does point to point radio triangulation work when the receiver is a moving target?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 28, 2016, 07:03:54 PM
Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

*Yawn!*

First it was 'bad weather', now it's 'cloud cover', now the fact that you need to align a dish with a signal means satellites exist...

It's all done by bouncing radio waves around the sky one way or another; no need for magical flying trashcans 20,000 miles away in 'shpayze'.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.

I see now you can visualise objects that don't exist in your mind. Nobody cares.
Yawn

So now it's back to bouncing waves...


Please learn what evidence is. It would really help.


The cloud cover is what causes the signal loss in bad weather.

Satellites don't require magic. Perhaps if you had a greater education level you could see this.

Are you claiming that radio waves can not pass through things?  Is that why radios and TVs don't work indoors?  ::)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on April 28, 2016, 07:34:53 PM
Radio won't go out with cloud cover. Also one can simple place an object in from of a satilite dish or simply move it out of alignment. This would still allow for a signal if it worked like a radio antenna.

*Yawn!*

First it was 'bad weather', now it's 'cloud cover', now the fact that you need to align a dish with a signal means satellites exist...

It's all done by bouncing radio waves around the sky one way or another; no need for magical flying trashcans 20,000 miles away in 'shpayze'.

I see now you can't visualize objects in your mind. Explains a lot.

I see now you can visualise objects that don't exist in your mind. Nobody cares.
Yawn

So now it's back to bouncing waves...


Please learn what evidence is. It would really help.


The cloud cover is what causes the signal loss in bad weather.

Satellites don't require magic. Perhaps if you had a greater education level you could see this.

Are you claiming that radio waves can not pass through things?  Is that why radios and TVs don't work indoors?  ::)
Would you rephrase the question but this time take out your GED.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 28, 2016, 11:32:23 PM
How well does point to point radio triangulation work when the receiver is a moving target?

Pretty damn well, seeing as that's how GPS works.

It just doesn't need satellites.

Which you still haven't provided any empirical evidence for btw...

Perhaps it's time for you to pretend you have?

As usual.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 29, 2016, 01:07:33 AM
How well does point to point radio triangulation work when the receiver is a moving target?

Pretty damn well, seeing as that's how GPS works.

It just doesn't need satellites.

Which you still haven't provided any empirical evidence for btw...

Perhaps it's time for you to pretend you have?

As usual.
You use the word 'need', meaning it might be possible to design and implement a global navigation system with ground based transmitters.  However the GPS system we use uses satellites.

Empirical evidence is the output of receivers, the system documentation from the US, Russian and European systems and direct observation of the performance in different locations across the world.

To show this is wrong you will need to come up with specific details such as documented transmitter locations and design information.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 29, 2016, 02:26:25 AM
Empirical evidence is the output of receivers, the system documentation from the US, Russian and European systems and direct observation of the performance in different locations across the world.

No it isn't.

To show this is wrong you will need to come up with specific details such as documented transmitter locations and design information.

No I don't.

Because satellites defy all the laws of physics; ergo they cannot exist.

Ergo, some other method must be used to produce the results attributed to them.

I have given a valid hypothesis for this method, based upon known technology & empirically observable phenomena.

But thank you for trying to shift the onus of proof & attempting to send me on a wild goose chase examining vast amounts of data which I have no means of ascertaining the veracity of.

It makes you look very sincere indeed & not at all a time-wasting hive-mind disinfo-shill.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 29, 2016, 03:05:21 AM
Empirical evidence is the output of receivers, the system documentation from the US, Russian and European systems and direct observation of the performance in different locations across the world.

No it isn't.

To show this is wrong you will need to come up with specific details such as documented transmitter locations and design information.

No I don't.

Because satellites defy all the laws of physics; ergo they cannot exist.

Ergo, some other method must be used to produce the results attributed to them.

I have given a valid hypothesis for this method, based upon known technology & empirically observable phenomena.

But thank you for trying to shift the onus of proof & attempting to send me on a wild goose chase examining vast amounts of data which I have no means of ascertaining the veracity of.

It makes you look very sincere indeed & not at all a time-wasting hive-mind disinfo-shill.
The observations of the operation of GPS and satellite TV prove the operation of satellites.  They are known technology.

A hypothesis of 'it must be ground based' is not sufficient.  Examine some of the data, like the screen of GPS apps that show the number of satellites received at any one time and how it changes.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 29, 2016, 05:34:24 AM
The observations of the operation of GPS and satellite TV prove the operation of satellites.

Complete garbage; they prove only that signals are being sent & received.

They prove nothing about the source of that signal.

Stop wasting my time.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 29, 2016, 06:27:50 AM
The observations of the operation of GPS and satellite TV prove the operation of satellites.

Complete garbage; they prove only that signals are being sent & received.

They prove nothing about the source of that signal.

Stop wasting my time.
Looking at a cell tower proves nothing about what kind of signals may or may not be coming from that tower.  You need a directional antenna and a frequency analyzer to be certain.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 29, 2016, 07:15:32 AM
Looking at a cell tower proves nothing about what kind of signals may or may not be coming from that tower.
 
Never said it did.

Just said all the 'satellite TV' dishes near me point at one.

Meh; just a co-incidence I guess?

Quote
You need a directional antenna and a frequency analyzer to be certain.

Fantastic.

Lend me yours then.

I'll return it when you provide genuine empirical evidence of GPS satellites existing.

(lol it'll go straight on Ebay - PROFIT!)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on April 29, 2016, 12:25:14 PM
Looking at a cell tower proves nothing about what kind of signals may or may not be coming from that tower.
 
Never said it did.

Just said all the 'satellite TV' dishes near me point at one.

Meh; just a co-incidence I guess?
Yes, that is entirely possible, assuming that you aren't lying about the whole thing in the first place.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 29, 2016, 01:02:32 PM
Yes, that is entirely possible, assuming that you aren't lying about the whole thing in the first place.

Here markjo; have a week's supply:  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Don't use em all at once!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on April 29, 2016, 05:24:55 PM
Yes, that is entirely possible, assuming that you aren't lying about the whole thing in the first place.

Here markjo; have a week's supply:  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Don't use em all at once!

Ha!! This is pointless with zero substance..... Still laughed you cheeky bastard.

I bet you were the kid that built lego buildings 3 feet high, but knocked it over because you couldn't control yourself.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on April 29, 2016, 07:26:34 PM

. . . satellites defy all the laws of physics; ergo they cannot exist.




Moon?





Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 29, 2016, 11:36:39 PM
Hey Stanton - loving your new strawman!

Or straw-moon?

Remember when you sent me grovelling PMs trying to find the source of my info on aerodynamics?

And threw a little hissy-fit when I laughed at your disinfo-ass?

Tried to claim that if I didn't tell you it'd negate all the laws of physics, or some such Clown Derf tomfoolery?

Good times...

And now your illiterate Clown cohort unluckyfred has started a thread on the very same subject!

More coincidences from the hive-mind?

Nah.

Now; how about some genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on April 30, 2016, 12:06:44 AM
Looks like you struck a nerve with him, Stanton.  He cranks up the insults to try and hide his creeping doubts. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 30, 2016, 12:33:29 AM
Hey Stanton - loving your new strawman!

Or straw-moon?

Remember when you sent me grovelling PMs trying to find the source of my info on aerodynamics?

And threw a little hissy-fit when I laughed at your disinfo-ass?

Tried to claim that if I didn't tell you it'd negate all the laws of physics, or some such Clown Derf tomfoolery?

Good times...

And now your illiterate Clown cohort unluckyfred has started a thread on the very same subject!

More coincidences from the hive-mind?

Nah.

Now; how about some genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites?
Again, the receiver output and you have not explained how you think it works.  In detail, with references to documentation.  You know it works, explain how, beyond it must be ground based.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 30, 2016, 12:47:23 AM
Again, the receiver output and you have not explained how you think it works.

Sorry can you repeat that in the language of Sanity please?

It's like an Esperanto for Sane people.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 30, 2016, 01:08:39 AM
Again, the receiver output and you have not explained how you think it works.

Sorry can you repeat that in the language of Sanity please?

It's like an Esperanto for Sane people.
The receiver output.  Such as - $GPGSV – Detailed GPS satellite information such as azimuth and elevation of each satellite being tracked.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 30, 2016, 01:38:31 AM
Nope, still not getting it.

You seem to be having trouble with the concept of 'empirical evidence'...

Unlike the concept of 'time wasting', at which you are indeed expert.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on April 30, 2016, 01:44:17 AM
Nope, still not getting it.

You seem to be having trouble with the concept of 'empirical evidence'...

Unlike the concept of 'time wasting', at which you are indeed expert.
Say what you want.

'evidence relating to or based on experience or observation'

Observe the received data with the example above, experience the operation across the earth, including the centre of oceans where 20 satellites are received.  All proves exactly how GPS works.

Where is your empirical evidence as to how GPS works?  You have none.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on April 30, 2016, 06:27:54 AM
Say what you want.

Thanks, I will!

You are a word-twisting, time-wasting Liar.

Goodbye!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on May 01, 2016, 02:44:42 AM
Nope, still boring.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 01, 2016, 02:54:39 AM
Getting a bit boring round here; let's spice it up a bit, eh?

Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
I've been observing these mother fuckers spraying shit on me day after day. Sometimes there is a much as 20 chemtrails that I can see from my back porch. Some days there are none. Usually if none are there in the morning they spray them sometime during the day. That shit turns the sky white, I can sit there and watch that shit spread out. It turns the sky from blue to white.

Exactly, hoppy; only a full retard would deny that these things exist.

And anyone who's old enough to remember pre-1990's skies - let alone grew up around military pilots & air bases like myself - knows damn well they're not 'persistent contrails'.

Thing is, they're not especially harmful; even with them the air in the UK is far cleaner than it was when I was younger & there was more industry & domestic coal fires.

So it's not a big deal for me to be honest; in fact the only reason I started this thread was because a fraud mod kept locking my rocket threads so I thought I'd cause some trouble by letting one of the military's best-kept secrets out of the bag...

Just to piss all the spook-trolls here off, like.

Same reason I mentioned frenat's youtube troll channel; I see he's cleaned it up & hidden his little troll playlist, as well as the lulzy video of a man dressed as a fairy dancing to gaylord music.

Spook-trolls deserve pissing off, you see...

Because nobody likes them, their controllers least of all; let's face it, who on earth would relish spending their working life dealing with people so morally bankrupt they're prepared to spend all day on the internet lying & snooping for a living?

Yuck! Horrid things they are...

Anyhoo; keep Observing & remember - 'satellites' are just a bunch of muck thrown out the back of an airplane!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 01, 2016, 10:32:25 AM
This is the uppers. Don't post your gay sex stories.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 01, 2016, 10:40:19 AM
As you ignored everything I wrote & spammed gibberish, I will simply repost.

Indeed.

This forum is full of ex-forces comms/radar ops, yet they all have nothing to say on a subject they should be expert in.

Bit of a lol needed there.

Now; if chemtrails are for 'geoengineering' then why would the surveyors on a £450 million construction project need them?

Because that is what I Observed.

At 8am on the day that surveying began there were 3 greasy, low altitude chemtrails sprayed directly above the valley the surveying took place in.

Did the surveyors - who were using GPS equipment - need it to be nice & warm that day?

Or did they need pin-point accuracy from their equipment?

You decide.

Keep Observing...
I've been observing these mother fuckers spraying shit on me day after day. Sometimes there is a much as 20 chemtrails that I can see from my back porch. Some days there are none. Usually if none are there in the morning they spray them sometime during the day. That shit turns the sky white, I can sit there and watch that shit spread out. It turns the sky from blue to white.

Exactly, hoppy; only a full retard would deny that these things exist.

And anyone who's old enough to remember pre-1990's skies - let alone grew up around military pilots & air bases like myself - knows damn well they're not 'persistent contrails'.

Thing is, they're not especially harmful; even with them the air in the UK is far cleaner than it was when I was younger & there was more industry & domestic coal fires.

So it's not a big deal for me to be honest; in fact the only reason I started this thread was because a fraud mod kept locking my rocket threads so I thought I'd cause some trouble by letting one of the military's best-kept secrets out of the bag...

Just to piss all the spook-trolls here off, like.

Same reason I mentioned frenat's youtube troll channel; I see he's cleaned it up & hidden his little troll playlist, as well as the lulzy video of a man dressed as a fairy dancing to gaylord music.

Spook-trolls deserve pissing off, you see...

Because nobody likes them, their controllers least of all; let's face it, who on earth would relish spending their working life dealing with people so morally bankrupt they're prepared to spend all day on the internet lying & snooping for a living?

Yuck! Horrid things they are...

Anyhoo; keep Observing & remember - 'satellites' are just a bunch of muck thrown out the back of an airplane!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 01, 2016, 10:42:30 AM
lol


(http://)


Try making a cloud yourself.


lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 01, 2016, 10:45:10 AM
Spook-trolls deserve pissing off, you see...

Because nobody likes them, their controllers least of all; let's face it, who on earth would relish spending their working life dealing with people so morally bankrupt they're prepared to spend all day on the internet lying & snooping for a living?

Yuck! Horrid things they are...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 01, 2016, 11:04:39 AM
You need to get help for your Nephophobia.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 01, 2016, 11:08:00 AM
This is the uppers. Don't post your gay sex stories.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 01, 2016, 12:23:18 PM
It's the fear of clouds.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: DanneJeRusse on May 01, 2016, 01:55:05 PM

Exactly, hoppy; only a full retard would deny that these things exist.

So, when you use the term "retard" you are in fact referring to (IDD) intellectual developmental disability, a condition that often results in dementia later in life? Or, is it just a slang term used by puerile adolescents who don't know any better?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 01, 2016, 09:17:45 PM
This is the uppers. Don't post your gay sex stories.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 01, 2016, 11:52:27 PM
Nope, still not getting it.

You seem to be having trouble with the concept of 'empirical evidence'...

Unlike the concept of 'time wasting', at which you are indeed expert.
Say what you want.

'evidence relating to or based on experience or observation'

Observe the received data with the example above, experience the operation across the earth, including the centre of oceans where 20 satellites are received.  All proves exactly how GPS works.

Where is your empirical evidence as to how GPS works?  You have none.
Still no empirical evidence for how you think GPS works.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 02, 2016, 12:06:17 AM
Still no empirical evidence for how you think GPS works.

Oh look here's me showing you it pages ago:

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation.

Exactly.

And neither Observation nor Experiment can confirm the existence of flying trashcans 20,000 miles up in the sky.

It can, however, confirm the existence of airplanes, chemtrails & cell-phone towers.


Just as it can confirm that all the 'satellite TV' antennas near me point directly at a big cell tower.

A point that you ignored...

Again.

Instead, you pulled the usual shill-trick of exhorting me to waste valuable time poring over fake data...

Ah; the old ones are the best, eh?

You are the shilliest link - Goodbye!
Other satellite dishes point at transmitters in space.  Look beyond your area.

Try this http://www.dishpointer.com/ (http://www.dishpointer.com/)  Any problems with it?

I will also add that radio triangulation is also well-known, scientifically-established technology.

Any more time-wasting Lies you'd like to spam in the absence of genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 02, 2016, 02:38:10 AM
Still no empirical evidence for how you think GPS works.

Oh look here's me showing you it pages ago:

Empirical evidence is information acquired by observation or experimentation.

Exactly.

And neither Observation nor Experiment can confirm the existence of flying trashcans 20,000 miles up in the sky.

It can, however, confirm the existence of airplanes, chemtrails & cell-phone towers.


Just as it can confirm that all the 'satellite TV' antennas near me point directly at a big cell tower.

A point that you ignored...

Again.

Instead, you pulled the usual shill-trick of exhorting me to waste valuable time poring over fake data...

Ah; the old ones are the best, eh?

You are the shilliest link - Goodbye!
Other satellite dishes point at transmitters in space.  Look beyond your area.

Try this http://www.dishpointer.com/ (http://www.dishpointer.com/)  Any problems with it?

I will also add that radio triangulation is also well-known, scientifically-established technology.

Any more time-wasting Lies you'd like to spam in the absence of genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist?
There is no empirical evidence for GPS operating in any way other than with satellites.  Zero documentation.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 02, 2016, 03:35:55 AM
There is no empirical evidence for GPS operating in any way other than with satellites.  Zero documentation.

 ::)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 02, 2016, 07:48:42 AM
There is no empirical evidence for GPS operating in any way other than with satellites.  Zero documentation.

 ::)
Please provide empirical evidence that GPS does not use satellites if you are convinced you are correct.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 02, 2016, 08:05:38 AM
I don't need to; stop twisting things.

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

All of which I have detailed.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

If your programming will allow you to?

Last chance, Inquisi-bot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 02, 2016, 08:30:54 AM
Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.
But Occam's Razor does not say that the simplest explanation must be the correct one.  Therefore, it's still possible for the more complicated explanation to be the correct one.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 02, 2016, 08:35:54 AM
I don't need to; stop twisting things.

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

All of which I have detailed.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

If your programming will allow you to?

Last chance, Inquisi-bot.
In this case it is not about just saying it can't be satellites, it's about providing evidence. which you have failed to do.

'The Global Positioning System (GPS) and Global Navigation Satellite System (GLONASS) systems are satellite-based systems'

http://www.tomtom.com/ (http://www.tomtom.com/)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 02, 2016, 08:47:09 AM
Deniers can always point to GSM location services from cell towers, but GSM works somewhat differently than GPS and does not provide the same coverage or accuracy as GPS.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 02, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
Let's exclude the science of it all. No one has every provided how a conspiracy of this magnitude could be performed.

Only answer I have ever received is that TOP MEN have orchestrated it.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 02, 2016, 08:57:12 AM
Less TALK; more EVIDENCE.

Thank you please!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on May 02, 2016, 11:41:53 AM
Less TALK; more EVIDENCE.

Thank you please!

^said the pot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 02, 2016, 12:06:25 PM
NO U!!!

 ::)

Less TALK; more EVIDENCE.

Thank you please!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 03, 2016, 01:34:23 AM
NO U!!!

 ::)

Less TALK; more EVIDENCE.

Thank you please!
If you disagree with the known and accepted way that GPS works then it is for you to provide the evidence.

Receivers give the location of the transmitters which proves they are orbiting satellites.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 01:38:02 AM
If you disagree with the known and accepted way that GPS works then it is for you to provide the evidence.

I don't need to; stop twisting things.

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

All of which I have detailed.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

If your programming will allow you to?

Last chance, Inquisi-bot.

We can do this forever, inquisi-bot...

Occam's Razor will always be on my side.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 03, 2016, 02:05:57 AM
If you disagree with the known and accepted way that GPS works then it is for you to provide the evidence.

I don't need to; stop twisting things.

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

All of which I have detailed.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

If your programming will allow you to?

Last chance, Inquisi-bot.

We can do this forever, inquisi-bot...

Occam's Razor will always be on my side.
Yet you have no explanation or evidence.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 02:18:48 AM
I don't need to; stop twisting things.

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

All of which I have detailed.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

If your programming will allow you to?

Last chance, Inquisi-bot.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: DanneJeRusse on May 03, 2016, 05:06:59 AM
I don't need to; stop twisting things.

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

All of which I have detailed.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

Admitting you know nothing about physics doesn't actually help your argument.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 05:15:59 AM
Newton's laws of motion & all the Gas laws explicitly forbid space flight as described, as do large chunks of thermodynamics...

So go argue with them & leave me out of it.

Meanwhile:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.

There you go.

Add this to the empirical observation of both chemtrails & planes, plus the known methods of radio triangulation, troposcatter, etc, & you have a working hypothesis that does not require the ASSUMPTION of impossible trashcans in space.

Occam's Razor therefore says I win.

Deal with it.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Mainframes on May 03, 2016, 05:38:30 AM
Newton's laws of motion & all the Gas laws explicitly forbid space flight as described, as do large chunks of thermodynamics...


Actually Newton's laws of motion point directly towards space flight being very real, being that rockets work using most simple tenet of conservation of momentum.

The only problem is your complete lack of understanding of physics.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 03, 2016, 05:39:34 AM
Newton's laws of motion & all the Gas laws explicitly forbid space flight as described, as do large chunks of thermodynamics...

So go argue with them & leave me out of it.

Meanwhile:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.

There you go.

Add this to the empirical observation of both chemtrails & planes, plus the known methods of radio triangulation, troposcatter, etc, & you have a working hypothesis that does not require the ASSUMPTION of impossible trashcans in space.

Occam's Razor therefore says I win.

Deal with it.
so cherry-picking quotes is all you've got.  You ignored the rest of the post that showed why your idea wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: DanneJeRusse on May 03, 2016, 05:48:29 AM
Newton's laws of motion & all the Gas laws explicitly forbid space flight as described, as do large chunks of thermodynamics...

So go argue with them & leave me out of it.

Argue with who? YOU are the one makingabsurd claims based on ignorance and incredulity. YOU are the one denying space flight. YOU are the one who needs to put up or shut up.

So, let's here exactly why space flight is forbidden based on Newtons laws of motion? Gas laws and thermodynamics? LOL. That's hilarious. Have you tried stand up comedy?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 05:58:46 AM
rockets work using most simple tenet of conservation of momentum.

No they don't.

They work via the formula Force=Pressure x Area, the Force being created via Newton's 3rd law as the rocket exhaust Presses against the external mass of the atmosphere at the Area of the nozzle exit.

Ergo, No Atmosphere = No Force.

Everybody knows this except plebs, retards & shills; you are the latter.

You ignored the rest of the post that showed why your idea wouldn't work.

No I didn't; it's all been dealt with.

Thanks for your lying & shilling though!

Any genuine empirical evidence for GPS satellites yet btw?

No?

meh...

***************************************************************************************

Awww!

Your shilly comment turned to pretty starz!

Nice...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 03, 2016, 06:02:49 AM
You ignored the rest of the post that showed why your idea wouldn't work.

No I didn't; it's all been dealt with.
No, you didn't deal with it.  That would have required presenting evidence.  Everyone knows you don't do that.

any evidence of content of your "chemtrails" yet?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 06:16:17 AM
Just gonna chillax a bit til your Lying & Shilling frenzy's over...

Get a beer maybe, listen to some music?

Hey; how's it feel being a criminal btw?

You do know that what you're doing is illegal, don't you?

No?

Well it is...

Anyhoo; beer & tunes!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 03, 2016, 06:18:11 AM
Just gonna chillax a bit til your Lying & Shilling frenzy's over...

Get a beer maybe, listen to some music?

Hey; how's it feel being a criminal btw?

You do know that what you're doing is illegal, don't you?

No?

Well it is...

Anyhoo; beer & tunes!
Asking you to present evidence while posting on a forum in my free time is not illegal.  Not in the US anyway.  Maybe in North Korea?

Ever get any evidence of the content of your "chemtrails"?  No?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 06:23:36 AM
rockets work using most simple tenet of conservation of momentum.

No they don't.

They work via the formula Force=Pressure x Area, the Force being created via Newton's 3rd law as the rocket exhaust Presses against the external mass of the atmosphere at the Area of the nozzle exit.

Ergo, No Atmosphere = No Force.
Cool story, bro.  Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 06:43:54 AM
Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?

LOL!!!

And the shill-clowns accuse me of making up my own physics...

Comedy Gold plus beer plus tunes; result!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 07:42:45 AM
Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?

LOL!!!

And the shill-clowns accuse me of making up my own physics...

Comedy Gold plus beer plus tunes; result!
It isn't so much that you make up your own physics as you seem to have your own creative interpretation of accepted physics.  Like claiming that F=ma and conservation of momentum don't apply to gasses, even though gasses do have mass.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 07:50:02 AM
It isn't so much that you make up your own physics as you seem to have your own creative interpretation of accepted physics

 ::)

Like claiming that F=ma and conservation of momentum don't apply to gasses, even though gasses do have mass.

 ::)

Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?

 ::)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 07:59:40 AM
It isn't so much that you make up your own physics as you seem to have your own creative interpretation of accepted physics

 ::)

Like claiming that F=ma and conservation of momentum don't apply to gasses, even though gasses do have mass.

 ::)

Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?

 ::)
I think that I broke Papa Legba.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 08:17:12 AM
I think that I broke Papa Legba.

LOL!!!

Nah, I'm just kicking back with a beer watching you tie yourself in disinfo-knots trying to misrepresent such a simple concept as Pressure.

See, markjo, we've been here before...

You did the same then & you'll do the same now.

Which is why no-one sincere posts here any more...

Cos you & your massive shilling & sock-puppeting & manipulation of the forum have driven them all away.

So it's just you & me...

And I know all your tricks.

Cos Legba sees all Voodoo all the time...

Now; carry on dancing for Papa!

Start by explaining EXACTLY what you meant by this:

Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 08:43:46 AM
I think that I broke Papa Legba.

LOL!!!

Nah, I'm just kicking back with a beer watching you tie yourself in disinfo-knots trying to misrepresent such a simple concept as Pressure.
Pressure is simply force per unit of area.  You're the one claiming that it must push against the mass of the atmosphere.  I contend that all it needs to push against is the walls of the combustion chamber.


Start by explaining EXACTLY what you meant by this:

Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?
I was simply responding to this:
They work via the formula Force=Pressure x Area, the Force being created via Newton's 3rd law as the rocket exhaust Presses against the external mass of the atmosphere at the Area of the nozzle exit.

Ergo, No Atmosphere = No Force.
How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

In other words, how do you solve F=ma in your little world?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 09:08:30 AM
I think that I broke Papa Legba.

LOL!!!

Nah, I'm just kicking back with a beer watching you tie yourself in disinfo-knots trying to misrepresent such a simple concept as Pressure.
Pressure is simply force per unit of area.  You're the one claiming that it must push against the mass of the atmosphere.  I contend that all it needs to push against is the walls of the combustion chamber.


Start by explaining EXACTLY what you meant by this:

Except that in your beloved F = Pressure x Area, there is no term for mass, so how do you determine how much atmospheric mass the force needs to push against?
I was simply responding to this:
They work via the formula Force=Pressure x Area, the Force being created via Newton's 3rd law as the rocket exhaust Presses against the external mass of the atmosphere at the Area of the nozzle exit.

Ergo, No Atmosphere = No Force.
How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

In other words, how do you solve F=ma in your little world?

 ::)

I just hope there's some real scientists lurking around, now you've scared all the honest posters off with your psychotic control-freakery...

Cos they'll be horrified at the convoluted nonsense you are spamming.

Really; you have gone completely mental & all I can be bothered doing is giving you plenty of rope with which to hang yourself...

Now, Dance for Papa!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 09:30:38 AM
I just hope there's some real scientists lurking around, now you've scared all the honest posters off with your psychotic control-freakery...

Cos they'll be horrified at the convoluted nonsense you are spamming.
I'm just trying to make sense of your interpretation of how rockets work.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 09:39:38 AM
I'm just trying to make sense of your interpretation of how rockets work.

My interpretation of how rockets work has nothing to do with your inability to comprehend simple physical laws & terms, or express yourself in logical fashion, markjo.

For example, please explain what you meant by this:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 10:43:27 AM
I'm just trying to make sense of your interpretation of how rockets work.

My interpretation of how rockets work has nothing to do with your inability to comprehend simple physical laws & terms, or express yourself in logical fashion, markjo.

For example, please explain what you meant by this:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?
Quite simple.

Force = mass x acceleration.

Force = pressure pushing against the atmosphere at the exit of the rocket engine

Mass = ?
Acceleration = ?

Please fill in the missing terms.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 12:33:06 PM
Quite simple.

Force = mass x acceleration.

Force = pressure pushing against the atmosphere at the exit of the rocket engine

Mass = ?
Acceleration = ?

Please fill in the missing terms.

 ::)

The 'missing terms' are not 'missing' at all.

Read again:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

And explain.

I really do hope there are a few scientists reading this...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 12:35:51 PM
*sigh*

Let's try a little true or false quiz.

Force = pressure x area - True or false?

Force = mass x acceleration - True of false?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 12:49:28 PM
Force = pressure x area - True or false?

Force = mass x acceleration - True of false?

 ::)

I never said either were false, because they are not.

So stop avoiding the point.

I simply asked you to explain this:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

You wrote it.

Now explain it.

Remember; a scientist may still be lurking!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 12:56:49 PM
Force = pressure x area - True or false?

Force = mass x acceleration - True of false?

 ::)

I never said either were false, because they are not.

So stop avoiding the point.

I simply asked you to explain this:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

You wrote it.

Now explain it.

Remember; a scientist may still be lurking!
If both are true, then both apply to the rocket engine. 

You insist that the force of the pressure must push against the atmosphere, right?

If so, then the force of the pressure is accelerating an equivalent mass of the atmosphere, right?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 01:04:05 PM
You insist that the force of the pressure must push against the atmosphere, right?
If so, then the force of the pressure is accelerating an equivalent mass of the atmosphere, right?

Yes, we all know force-pairings are how N3 works.

Now, explain this:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

You wrote it.

Now explain it.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 01:15:09 PM
You insist that the force of the pressure must push against the atmosphere, right?
If so, then the force of the pressure is accelerating an equivalent mass of the atmosphere, right?

Yes, we all know force-pairings are how N3 works.

Now, explain this:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

You wrote it.

Now explain it.
I'm not sure how much more plainly I can put it.

Perhaps you should tell me what part is confusing you.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 01:21:01 PM
You have already admitted that a force-pairing is created at the nozzle.

Look:

You insist that the force of the pressure must push against the atmosphere, right?
If so, then the force of the pressure is accelerating an equivalent mass of the atmosphere, right?

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?

Whilst we wait for markjo to work through the implications of his latest foot-in-mouth shitposts, let us consider this:

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

Such as radio triangulation, airplanes, troposcatter & chemtrails.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...


Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 03, 2016, 01:22:21 PM

. . . the rocket exhaust Presses against the external mass of the atmosphere at the Area of the nozzle exit.



The expanding gas "presses" against the inside of the exhaust bell
in all directions.

It can not "press" against the open end.

Thrust happens inside the exhaust bell.

The fire coming out the back is impressive waste.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 01:30:27 PM
Thrust happens inside the exhaust bell.

Says you.

Markjo says this though:

all it needs to push against is the walls of the combustion chamber.

Oops!

Luckily, I know that thrust is created at the nozzle exit.

But thanks for jumping in outa nowhere to try & save markjo from inevitable death by logic...

It doesn't look at all contrived & is completely normal, totally legit, etc, etc...

*Yawn!*

This is why there are no flat earthers on this forum btw...

Cos it's run by shills from the top down & everybody knows it..
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 03, 2016, 01:35:27 PM
You have already admitted that a force-pairing is created at the nozzle.

Look:

You insist that the force of the pressure must push against the atmosphere, right?
If so, then the force of the pressure is accelerating an equivalent mass of the atmosphere, right?

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?

Whilst we wait for markjo to work through the implications of his latest foot-in-mouth shitposts, let us consider this:

GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

Such as radio triangulation, airplanes, troposcatter & chemtrails.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

Again, provide details of actual GPS transmitter sites and explain how 20 US and Russian signals can be received in the middle of oceans.  What does your GPS receiver show as transmitter details?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 01:39:24 PM
Yep, the Clown Derfer Rescue Party's arrived!

With a big rucksack fulla strawmen & bullshit..

How VERY convenient for markjo!

Really; this is why no-one posts here any more.

There's just Legba & 29,000 shills & sock-puppets left.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 03, 2016, 01:40:56 PM
Thrust happens inside the exhaust bell.

Says you.

Markjo says this though:

all it needs to push against is the walls of the combustion chamber.

Oops!



Same reality.




Luckily, I know that thrust is created at the nozzle exit.



Did you learn that in a dream or from a comic book?



Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 01:44:22 PM
Did you learn that in a dream or from a comic book?

Learnt it from every serious textbook on the subject ever written.

Not that you'd know.

Goodbye, Liar!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 01:46:15 PM
GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

Such as radio triangulation, airplanes, troposcatter & chemtrails.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on May 03, 2016, 01:57:39 PM
Oh no! PL is on the rampage!!! ;D
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 03, 2016, 02:09:16 PM
GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

Such as radio triangulation, airplanes, troposcatter & chemtrails.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

'such as' is not sufficient detail, please expand.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 03, 2016, 02:46:08 PM
Did you learn that in a dream or from a comic book?

Learnt it from every serious textbook on the subject ever written.



Name one.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: DanneJeRusse on May 03, 2016, 04:47:50 PM

***************************************************************************************

Awww!

Your shilly comment turned to pretty starz!

Nice...

That's it? That's the best you can do? Seek professional help.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 03, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
You have already admitted that a force-pairing is created at the nozzle.
Nope, you're the one who said it.  Again, I'm just trying to understand your version of how rockets work.

Look:
Yes, let's take a look.

You insist that the force of the pressure must push against the atmosphere, right?
If so, then the force of the pressure is accelerating an equivalent mass of the atmosphere, right?


Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 03, 2016, 08:43:10 PM
Did you learn that in a dream or from a comic book?

Learnt it from every serious textbook on the subject ever written.


Name ONE.



Name ONE.


Diddlie-pop breakfast snack weasel.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 03, 2016, 11:29:41 PM
You have already admitted that a force-pairing is created at the nozzle.
Nope, you're the one who said it. Again, I'm just trying to understand your version of how rockets work.

Look:
Yes, let's take a look.

You insist that the force of the pressure must push against the atmosphere, right?
If so, then the force of the pressure is accelerating an equivalent mass of the atmosphere, right?


Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

 ::)

Please let there be a physicist following this!

Name ONE

Read ONE.

Or send me another intrusive & insolent PM on the subject, perhaps?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 04, 2016, 10:27:03 PM
Still waiting for markjo to answer this:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

It's a very simple answer but seems he's run away again.

Also waiting for genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 04, 2016, 10:38:48 PM
A simple experiment you can do at home shows rockets don't push off the atmosphere.

(http://)

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 04, 2016, 11:36:39 PM
No it doesn't.

Still waiting for genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on May 04, 2016, 11:43:50 PM

Still waiting for genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites do not exist.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 04, 2016, 11:50:11 PM
GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

Such as radio triangulation, airplanes, troposcatter & chemtrails.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on May 04, 2016, 11:54:33 PM
Lol

"Troposcatter & chemtrails".

Lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 04, 2016, 11:56:48 PM
Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 05, 2016, 12:01:08 AM
GPS can be explained without satellites, via known technology & observable phenomena.

Such as radio triangulation, airplanes, troposcatter & chemtrails.

Occam's Razor states that the explanation requiring the least assumptions is most likely correct.

So, if GPS can be explained without the huge assumption of physics-defying flying trashcans in shpayze, then that explanation is most likely correct.

All of which you know already.

So; over to you: either provide genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites or admit defeat...

Explain why there is no documentation on the use of something other than satellites.  Explain why a receiver shows 20 transmitters being received where there is little or no cell phone or tv coverage.

If you cannot provide proof of an alternative it must exist.

The same applies to satellite communication.  It works.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on May 05, 2016, 12:01:53 AM
Lol

"Troposcatter & chemtrails".

Lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 12:09:17 AM
Explain why there is no documentation on the use of something other than satellites.  Explain why a receiver shows 20 transmitters being received where there is little or no cell phone or tv coverage.

How do you know no such documentation exists?

Do you have access to all classified documents, everywhere, ever?

And GPS is well known for dropping out in areas of low cell coverage.

And what the hell has tv coverage got to do with it anyway?

Stop diverting & show me genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 05, 2016, 12:41:06 AM
Explain why there is no documentation on the use of something other than satellites.  Explain why a receiver shows 20 transmitters being received where there is little or no cell phone or tv coverage.

How do you know no such documentation exists?

Do you have access to all classified documents, everywhere, ever?

And GPS is well known for dropping out in areas of low cell coverage.

And what the hell has tv coverage got to do with it anyway?

Stop diverting & show me genuine empirical evidence that GPS satellites exist.
I am asking you to provide documentation for a non-satellite solution for GPS.  You are the only person saying it does not use satellites despite all the evidence.

You will have to define your version of 'empirical evidence' as you are now saying GPS does not use satellites and there is no information available on how it actually works.  Despite all the evidence and proof of operation.  The technical details are freely available.

GPS does not drop out in areas of low cell coverage.  Works fine here and particularly used in remote areas, including in the centre of oceans where there is zero cell coverage.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 12:45:47 AM
You are the only person saying it does not use satellites despite all the evidence.

Yep; down to shill brass-tacks now: gaslighting & bullshit.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on May 05, 2016, 12:48:00 AM
You are the only person saying it does not use satellites despite all the evidence.

Yep; down to shill brass-tacks now: gaslighting & bullshit.

Trollin' trollin' trollin', get them wheels a rollin'.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Symptom on May 05, 2016, 01:01:02 AM
Yawn.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 01:01:53 AM
Search for 'GPS does not require satellites' & see what comes up.

The only difference to my hypothesis is the inclusion of chemtrails to aid signal propagation.

Which you were dumb enough to admit is possible...

Look:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.

Not clever.

Anyhoo, no genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites yet...

Just a desperate attempt to change the definition of empirical evidence, gaslighting & lies.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 05, 2016, 01:10:13 AM
Search for 'GPS does not require satellites' & see what comes up.

The only difference to my hypothesis is the inclusion of chemtrails to aid signal propagation.

Which you were dumb enough to admit is possible...

Look:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.

Not clever.

Anyhoo, no genuine empirical evidence for the existence of GPS satellites yet...

Just a desperate attempt to change the definition of empirical evidence, gaslighting & lies.
'Does not require' is not the same as 'does not use.'  Nice try.  All fully documented and explained.  Zero evidence that a GPS receiver does not receive from satellites.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 01:15:51 AM
Google 'GPS does not use satellites' then.

Plus the definition of 'empirical evidence' while you're at it.

Try to stay in character too, socky-boy.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 05, 2016, 05:24:09 AM
Google 'GPS does not use satellites' then.

Plus the definition of 'empirical evidence' while you're at it.

Try to stay in character too, socky-boy.
I'll let you provide some links confirming your beliefs.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 05:33:37 AM
Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.

and again with the cherrypicking of quotes.  Sad when that is all you have.

Ever get any proof of the content of your supposed "chemtrails"?  No?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 05:37:32 AM
Hi guys!

Doing the old 'quick shitpost whilst Legba is composing his post' trick again, eh?

Not realising that this proves the forum is compromised from the top down?

Silly shilly-billys!

I'll let this, plus your inability to google simple phrases, speak volumes about you anyhoo...

Socky-boys.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 05:40:19 AM
Hi guys!

Doing the old 'quick shitpost whilst Legba is composing his post' trick again, eh?

Not realising that this proves the forum is compromised from the top down?

Silly shilly-billys!

I'll let this, plus your inability to google simple phrases, speak volumes about you anyhoo...

Socky-boys.
Letting your paranoia show again?  I have no idea, nor do I care when or if you are composing a post.  I doubt anybody knows or cares.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 05:48:01 AM
LOL!!!

Just check the times of the posts you dick!

You've all been doing this for months; it don't make me paranoid, it just lets me know you control the forum ffs...

Everyone knows this anyway, why do you think no-one posts here any more except for sock-puppets & trolls?

Wtf is wrong with you?

And why you keep saying I have no evidence for the composition of chemtrails when feuk posted plenty of sources for you to research on the 1st page of the thread I have no idea...

Oh, yes I do; cos you're a lying shill!

Silly me.

Just drop the act & grow up, eh?

Get a proper job too.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 05:59:10 AM
LOL!!!

Just check the times of the posts you dick!
I just got online this morning and replied to a post from hours before.  I neither know, nor care if you are posting at the same time.  You think otherwise then PROVE IT.

You've all been doing this for months; it don't make me paranoid, it just lets me know you control the forum ffs...
Prove it then.

Everyone knows this anyway, why do you think no-one posts here any more except for sock-puppets & trolls?
Then why are you here?

Wtf is wrong with you?
Not a thing.

And why you keep saying I have no evidence for the composition of chemtrails when feuk posted plenty of sources for you to research on the 1st page of the thread I have no idea...
Feuk posted no evidence on the content of your supposed "chemtrails".  Perhaps you should read it again.  He posted speculation that they had to do with geoengineering with no evidence that it was happening and no tests showing anything about content.


Get a proper job too.
I have a proper job.  It has nothing to do with this site.  You think otherwise then prove it.  But everyone knows you won't.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 06:24:08 AM
Your continued chimp-out in defence of the indefensible & refusal to do even the most basic research, even look out of your window, is noted.

Thank you for your repetitive disinfo-bullshit.

I, however, saw dozens of airplanes spraying the shit out of the city I live in just today, from 7am to 1pm.

So yeah; 'no evidence...'.

LOL!!!

Toodle-pip, SHILL; & GET A PROPER JOB!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 06:30:23 AM
Your continued chimp-out in defence of the indefensible & refusal to do even the most basic research, even look out of your window, is noted.
I've done plenty of research.  I've looked into BOTH sides of the "chemtrail" argument since I first started seeing it mentioned online around 2000.  I've found nothing conclusive showing it is anything more than contrails.

Thank you for your repetitive disinfo-bullshit.
Prove it is disinfo.

I, however, saw dozens of airplanes spraying the shit out of the city I live in just today, from 7am to 1pm.
I'm sure you saw plenty of planes.  How do you KNOW they were spraying and it wasn't just contrails?  Did you check the weather conditions aloft?  Did you check a flight tracking website to see which planes were "spraying"? (which would undoubtedly have shown the majority to be commercial traffic)  Did you do ANYTHING besides look at them and ASSUME?

So yeah; 'no evidence...'.
Do you know what evidence is?  You STILL haven't proven the content of the trails.  You claimed barium and aluminum IIRC but have yet to proved any proof of that.


Toodle-pip, SHILL; & GET A PROPER JOB!
You can't make a post with an ad hominem, can you?  And AGAIN, I have a job and it has NOTHING to do with posting here or anywhere else.  If you think otherwise then PROVE IT.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 06:34:22 AM
Your continued inability to look at the sky or learn anything, ever, is noted.

Thank you for your petulant & immoral shilling.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 06:39:25 AM
Your continued inability to look at the sky or learn anything, ever, is noted.
Your continued ability to ignore the written word is noted.  I have looked at the sky and I have seen trails appear and persist exactly when and where persistent contrails would be expected to appear and persist.  I've done the research and found EVERY test run involves samples collected on the ground which prove NOTHING about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.  I've found that although many over the years have promised to collect samples directly from a trail and some even collected money to rent a plane to do so, NONE ever did it.

Thank you for your petulant & immoral shilling.
So no proof this is a job, or the content of the trails, or, well anything you've claimed then?  Just the par for the course ad hominem?  You're so predictable Papa.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 06:44:14 AM
Your increasing rage at my refusal to heed your shilling is noted.

Thank you for your persistence in shilling regardless.

Jobs outside the shilling sector can be found on the website www.shitthatnormalpeopledoforaliving.com (http://www.shitthatnormalpeopledoforaliving.com).
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 07:43:28 AM
Your increasing rage at my refusal to heed your shilling is noted.
Rage?  Not at all.  Amusement?  Plenty.

Thank you for your persistence in shilling regardless.

Jobs outside the shilling sector can be found on the website www.shitthatnormalpeopledoforaliving.com (http://www.shitthatnormalpeopledoforaliving.com).
Already have a job and again it has nothing to do with posting here or anywere else.  Your continued attempt to poison the well is noted.  Got anything that isn't a logical fallacy?

Any proof of the supposed content of your "chemtrails"?  No?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 05, 2016, 07:50:08 AM
A simple experiment you can do at home shows rockets don't push off the atmosphere.

(http://)

Lol
You know your argument is shit when a kitchen faucet destroys it.

Lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 08:41:25 AM
The person you are currently trying to shill is unavailable.

Please try again later, or visit www.soyoureshitatshilling? (http://www.soyoureshitatshilling?).com for technical help.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nexzus on May 05, 2016, 08:43:41 AM
You've all been doing this for months; it don't make me paranoid, it just lets me know you control the forum ffs...
Prove it then.

He's right this time. It started soon after I joined, as described here (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66142.msg1766025#msg1766025).

And here's how I do it. If you know how to read programming source code, it's quite informative:
(http://i.imgur.com/sR9L1Q0.png)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 08:52:24 AM
No; it's been going on a lot longer than that.

But thank you for your shilling.

I regret to inform you that no more shilling can be accepted today due to overload of my Give-a-fuck-ometer.

Please try again later, or visit www.shittotrywhenallothershillingfails.com (http://www.shittotrywhenallothershillingfails.com) for technical support.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 08:53:53 AM
You've all been doing this for months; it don't make me paranoid, it just lets me know you control the forum ffs...
Prove it then.

He's right this time. It started soon after I joined, as described here (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=66142.msg1766025#msg1766025).

And here's how I do it. If you know how to read programming source code, it's quite informative:
(http://i.imgur.com/sR9L1Q0.png)
joke not funny.    All you'll do is feed his paranoia.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nexzus on May 05, 2016, 09:10:03 AM
joke not funny.    All you'll do is feed his paranoia.
Meh. My cat thinks the little red laser point is alive. It's still amusing to watch her chase it around.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on May 05, 2016, 09:16:00 AM
is that valid C#?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 09:18:26 AM
This is a recorded message.

The person you are currently trying to shill is unavailable.

Please try again later, or visit www.soyoureshitatshilling? (http://www.soyoureshitatshilling?).com for technical help.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 05, 2016, 09:23:55 AM
This is a recorded message.

The person you are currently trying to shill is unavailable.

Please try again later, or visit www.soyoureshitatshilling? (http://www.soyoureshitatshilling?).com for technical help.
So avoidance of providing any evidence for you claims then?  Got it.

Any evidence for the content of your "chemtrails"?  No?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 09:25:31 AM
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Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: nexzus on May 05, 2016, 09:27:52 AM
is that valid C#?

With a smattering of esolang to get around some RFC 2549 limitations.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on May 05, 2016, 10:00:26 AM
I got this error when I tried to compile it:

Code: [Select]
Unexpected operand '{' on line 21:

20 replybox.addbubbler('onScan', new MemberFunction(trigger)
21 {
   ^
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 05, 2016, 11:45:49 PM
Enough of your piss-poor shilling...

Let's laugh at markjo being stumped by a question every high-school physics student should know the answer to:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

We can also get bonus lulz from the fact that all the scientific geniuses here are keeping very quiet too.

Why?

Because they are all shills & work together as part of a shill hive-mind.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 06, 2016, 05:28:40 AM
Enough of your piss-poor shilling...

Let's laugh at markjo being stumped by a question every high-school physics student should know the answer to:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

We can also get bonus lulz from the fact that all the scientific geniuses here are keeping very quiet too.

Why?

Because they are all shills & work together as part of a shill hive-mind.
Nah, I ust came to the conclusion that if you can't even tell the difference between a statement and a question, then I shouldn't waste my time trying to get a straight answer.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 06, 2016, 05:48:04 AM
Enough of your piss-poor shilling...

Let's laugh at markjo being stumped by a question every high-school physics student should know the answer to:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

We can also get bonus lulz from the fact that all the scientific geniuses here are keeping very quiet too.

Why?

Because they are all shills & work together as part of a shill hive-mind.
Nah, I ust came to the conclusion that if you can't even tell the difference between a statement and a question, then I shouldn't waste my time trying to get a straight answer.

LOL!!!

Better Call Markjo!

Can't answer his own question; has no idea what the hell he's talking about; just spams gibberish & nitpicking...

Anyone else care to have a go?

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 06, 2016, 06:33:42 AM
How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 06, 2016, 07:33:25 AM
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

Changed your mind now?

What a waste of time you are...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 06, 2016, 07:44:20 AM
Oh & p.s. this is still the wrong answer:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

As any physicist reading will realise...

And wonder why you are being so evasive over such a simple matter.

(Answer: because you are a time-wasting shill on a shill-run time-wasting forum).
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 06, 2016, 07:54:32 AM
Oh & p.s. this is still the wrong answer:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

As any physicist reading will realise...

And wonder why you are being so evasive over such a simple matter.

(Answer: because you are a time-wasting shill on a shill-run time-wasting forum).
You sure are set on not backing up your claims.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 06, 2016, 08:19:52 AM
Oh & p.s. this is still the wrong answer:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

As any physicist reading will realise...

And wonder why you are being so evasive over such a simple matter.

(Answer: because you are a time-wasting shill on a shill-run time-wasting forum).
???  Me being evasive? 

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 06, 2016, 08:43:14 AM
Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 06, 2016, 08:53:13 AM
Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero, because rockets work just fine in a vacuum.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 06, 2016, 09:05:29 AM
Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 06, 2016, 10:20:14 AM
Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!
That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you because they know that rockets don't push off the atmosphere like you claim that they do.

This is post 29.
Nice job of grabbing the last post on a page.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 06, 2016, 10:40:51 AM
Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you

 ::)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 09, 2016, 11:12:18 AM
What?

Do none dare criticise their Lord & Master markjo?

Please to be reading the following again please!

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 09, 2016, 11:33:16 AM
What?

Do none dare criticise their Lord & Master markjo?
That's right Papa, no one dares tempt the wrath of my dreaded bamhammer.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 09, 2016, 12:52:44 PM
None dare say that multiplying or dividing by Zero is Insane it seems...

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 10, 2016, 12:14:46 PM
^This Epic Fail by markjo's not going away easily, either...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 10, 2016, 05:19:51 PM
^This Epic Fail by markjo's not going away easily, either...

What makes tin different from aluminum?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 10, 2016, 09:11:43 PM
^More diversion from markjo's Epic Fail.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on May 10, 2016, 09:33:55 PM
None dare say that multiplying or dividing by Zero is Insane it seems...

Why would they?   Nothing insane about it.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 10, 2016, 09:43:23 PM
LOL!!!

Look at you all trying to justify markjo saying this:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you

And you say I don't understand basic physics?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 11, 2016, 05:20:44 AM
And you say I don't understand basic physics?
Yes, wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 11, 2016, 07:10:15 AM
LOL!!! wholeheartedly.

Because this:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 12, 2016, 10:03:18 PM
^Look at markjo getting 'basic physics' catastrophically wrong.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 13, 2016, 05:18:59 AM
^ Look at Papa Legba being an attention whore.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: disputeone on May 13, 2016, 06:19:31 AM
And you say I don't understand basic physics?

You clearly don't understand Newtons third law. It's not rocket science Papa
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: disputeone on May 13, 2016, 06:49:21 AM
You can do this cool experiment at home with a bottle of coke and a bicycle pump which might help clear up your confusion about actions and reactions Papa.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 13, 2016, 10:11:55 AM
What's the difference between tin and aluminum?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 13, 2016, 02:20:23 PM
^ Look at Papa Legba being an attention whore.

Look at markjo making a complete dick of himself:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you

And you say I don't understand basic physics?

You can do this cool experiment at home with a bottle of coke and a bicycle pump which might help clear up your confusion about actions and reactions Papa.

Keep your Emo Satanic rituals to yourself, Aliester Crowley's Mini-Me.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 13, 2016, 06:36:52 PM
What's the difference between tin and aluminum?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: disputeone on May 13, 2016, 06:40:43 PM
Keep your Emo Satanic rituals to yourself, Aliester Crowley's Mini-Me.

Scared you'll learn something about equal and opposite reactions?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 14, 2016, 12:10:27 AM
I would learn something about actions & reactions from Emo Satanic rituals?

Meh...

You do know Crowley was a spook btw, don't you?

Well he was; a fact which makes your latest shitty sock-persona particularly lulzy...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 15, 2016, 05:02:00 AM
And this isn't going away either:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you

None of you shills care to comment on the above?

Hmm?

Not one?

Hmm?

LOL!!!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 15, 2016, 08:37:28 AM
What's the difference between tin and aluminum?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 15, 2016, 11:52:39 AM
Coo-ee, markjo!

Looky here:

Now, all I am asking is that you explain a statement that you made.

This:

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?

Do you not know the answer?
No, I don't know the answer, that's why I'm asking you.

LOL!!!

How much mass must the force push against in order to accelerate?

Well; how much?
The answer can be found by rearranging F=ma to be m=f/A (mass = force divided by acceleration).

Feel free to fill in the blanks and let us know what you come up with.

LOL!!!

I'm the one who posed the question to you and you still refuse to answer it.

LOL!!!

Please let there be a physicist reading this shit...
Actually, a physicist would tell you that the answer is zero

LMFAO!!!

That's right, a physicist would laugh their ass off at you
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: hoppy on May 15, 2016, 12:10:59 PM
What's the difference between tin and aluminum?
Stop asking the same question over and over again. Everybody here knows the answer, but doesn't want to waste time talking to an idiot. Just stop asking the fucking question.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 15, 2016, 12:16:07 PM
If Papa Legba can keep shitspamming that same stupid things over and over and over again, then why shouldn't Sokarul be able to do the same?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 15, 2016, 12:27:06 PM
If Papa Legba can keep shitspamming that same stupid things over and over and over again, then why shouldn't Sokarul be able to do the same?

Need a new diaper, old man?

Anyhoo; it is horribly obvious from my above post that you do not understand Newton's 2nd Law...

Why, then, should we listen to you on the subject of his 3rd Law?

Hmm?

Should we start with his 1st?

Or is that still too complex for your addled old brain?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: AustinBostin on May 15, 2016, 02:22:28 PM
Need a new diaper, old man?
Anyhoo; it is horribly obvious from my above post that you do not understand Newton's 2nd Law...
Why, then, should we listen to you on the subject of his 3rd Law?
Hmm?
Should we start with his 1st?
Or is that still too complex for your addled old brain?

Newton was an occultist, and they are spraying our skies almost every single day GLOBALLY.
Tin Foil Hats not needed - they are putting plenty of aluminum on top of our heads.
Governments hiding the elusive Planet X?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on May 15, 2016, 02:50:37 PM
Need a new diaper, old man?
Anyhoo; it is horribly obvious from my above post that you do not understand Newton's 2nd Law...
Why, then, should we listen to you on the subject of his 3rd Law?
Hmm?
Should we start with his 1st?
Or is that still too complex for your addled old brain?

Newton was an occultist, and they are spraying our skies almost every single day GLOBALLY.
Tin Foil Hats not needed - they are putting plenty of aluminum on top of our heads.
Governments hiding the elusive Planet X?

Cool story bro.  Tell it again. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 15, 2016, 02:54:16 PM
Newton was an occultist, and they are spraying our skies almost every single day GLOBALLY.
Tin Foil Hats not needed - they are putting plenty of aluminum on top of our heads.
Governments hiding the elusive Planet X?
How do you KNOW these sprays contain aluminum?  Every study conducted has tested samples collected on the ground.  That proves nothing about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: AustinBostin on May 15, 2016, 03:33:05 PM
How do you KNOW these sprays contain aluminum?  Every study conducted has tested samples collected on the ground.  That proves nothing about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.

(http://)
(http://)

How about Lithium?  Nasa admitted it....  That make you feel better?
(http://)
Don't worry.  Nasa says it's harmless to the environment.  Back to sleep everyone!!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 15, 2016, 03:38:31 PM
How do you KNOW these sprays contain aluminum?  Every study conducted has tested samples collected on the ground.  That proves nothing about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.

(http://)
(http://)
Neither of those show tests of what's in the air.  Geoengineering has been proposed but has never been shown to be in progress.  So what proof do you have?  Again, how do you KNOW they contain aluminum?

How about Lithium?  Nasa admitted it....  That make you feel better?
(http://)
Don't worry.  Nasa says it's harmless to the environment.  Back to sleep everyone!!
They released some at about 100 miles altitude from sounding rockets.  How is that at all related to the trails you see from planes at 5-6 miles?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: AustinBostin on May 15, 2016, 03:49:44 PM
Neither of those show tests of what's in the air.  Geoengineering has been proposed but has never been shown to be in progress.  So what proof do you have?  Again, how do you KNOW they contain aluminum?

They released some at about 100 miles altitude from sounding rockets.  How is that at all related to the trails you see from planes at 5-6 miles?

http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010900/a010922/ (http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010900/a010922/)
The five sounding rockets, known as the Anomalous Transport Rocket Experiment (ATREX), will launch from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia releasing a chemical tracer into the air. The chemical — a substance called trimethyl aluminum

Let's be real.  It's a well known fact geo-engineering is very real.  The chemtrailing is out in full force since summer is on the way.
They are trying to prevent extreme volcanism, and they will fail.  It's already happening.  So I guess they see spraying us as the lesser of the two evils.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 15, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
Neither of those show tests of what's in the air.  Geoengineering has been proposed but has never been shown to be in progress.  So what proof do you have?  Again, how do you KNOW they contain aluminum?

They released some at about 100 miles altitude from sounding rockets.  How is that at all related to the trails you see from planes at 5-6 miles?

http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010900/a010922/ (http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010900/a010922/)
The five sounding rockets, known as the Anomalous Transport Rocket Experiment (ATREX), will launch from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia releasing a chemical tracer into the air. The chemical — a substance called trimethyl aluminum
Again with the sounding rocket.  How is that related to the trails from planes many 10s of miles below?

Let's be real.  It's a well known fact geo-engineering is very real.  The chemtrailing is out in full force since summer is on the way.
They are trying to prevent extreme volcanism, and they will fail.  It's already happening.  So I guess they see spraying us as the lesser of the two evils.
The proposals are real.  There is no proof it is in effect.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 15, 2016, 11:13:23 PM
Newton was an occultist

Everyone who believes in Heliocentricity is an occultist, knowingly or not.

Yet Newton's Laws of motion still work well on a macro scale.

They are trying to prevent extreme volcanism, and they will fail.

Bullshit.

They're spraying radio-reflective muck in the atmosphere to enhance comms capability.

It's as simple as that.

But I see the page has been turned on markjo's Newton-mangling nonsense, so job done I guess?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 16, 2016, 08:40:31 AM
Newton was an occultist, and they are spraying our skies almost every single day GLOBALLY.
Tin Foil Hats not needed - they are putting plenty of aluminum on top of our heads.
Governments hiding the elusive Planet X?
How do you KNOW these sprays contain aluminum?  Every study conducted has tested samples collected on the ground.  That proves nothing about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.

How do you know that the tests where not done by government paid scientists?  Of course they will say whatever their paycheck signing masters tell them to say.  Your "proves nothing" means very little, and shows me that you lack logic and reasoning.  Not to mention that your statement literally (in the word sense) means nothing. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 16, 2016, 09:16:23 AM
Newton was an occultist, and they are spraying our skies almost every single day GLOBALLY.
Tin Foil Hats not needed - they are putting plenty of aluminum on top of our heads.
Governments hiding the elusive Planet X?
How do you KNOW these sprays contain aluminum?  Every study conducted has tested samples collected on the ground.  That proves nothing about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.

How do you know that the tests where not done by government paid scientists?  Of course they will say whatever their paycheck signing masters tell them to say.  Your "proves nothing" means very little, and shows me that you lack logic and reasoning.  Not to mention that your statement literally (in the word sense) means nothing.
do try to keep up.  I'm not the one claiming content.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 16, 2016, 09:37:56 AM
Newton was an occultist, and they are spraying our skies almost every single day GLOBALLY.
Tin Foil Hats not needed - they are putting plenty of aluminum on top of our heads.
Governments hiding the elusive Planet X?
How do you KNOW these sprays contain aluminum?  Every study conducted has tested samples collected on the ground.  That proves nothing about a trail 30,000+ feet in the air.

How do you know that the tests where not done by government paid scientists?  Of course they will say whatever their paycheck signing masters tell them to say.  Your "proves nothing" means very little, and shows me that you lack logic and reasoning.  Not to mention that your statement literally (in the word sense) means nothing.
do try to keep up.  I'm not the one claiming content.

I am sorry, but did I forget to give you an official warning for low content posting lately?  My bad. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 20, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
So anyhoo; I asked earlier why the surveyors for a £450 million construction project (who were using 'GPS' surveying equipment) would require their own, personal, closely-grouped low-altitude chemtrails...

Never got a reasonable answer.

Just got told I didn't see what I saw by frenat the shill...

Again.

But I did see it.

So why would they need such things?

I suggest to enhance the accuracy of their equipment...

£450 million buys a lot of things; seems chemtrails are amongst them.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 20, 2016, 10:34:13 AM
So anyhoo; I asked earlier why the surveyors for a £450 million construction project (who were using 'GPS' surveying equipment) would require their own, personal, closely-grouped low-altitude chemtrails...

Never got a reasonable answer.

Just got told I didn't see what I saw by frenat the shill...

Again.

But I did see it.

So why would they need such things?

I suggest to enhance the accuracy of their equipment...

£450 million buys a lot of things; seems chemtrails are amongst them.
I never said you didn't see it.  I questioned how you knew the trails were for them.  You didn't answer.  I'd also still like to know how you know the content of said trails. You've never answered that either.

edited to fix grammer, forgot the word "were" in second sentence.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 20, 2016, 10:56:53 AM
As if by magic the Shill appeared!

Within 4 minutes, even...

How shit at your shit job are you ffs?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 20, 2016, 11:05:58 AM
As if by magic the Shill appeared!

Within 4 minutes, even...

How shit at your shit job are you ffs?
God forbid I respond to a post in which I am mentioned.  God forbid I use the forum as intended and know how email works.  Should I wait a few hours after you post just to assuage your paranoia?

and of course you still haven't said how you KNOW the trails were for the surveyors.  Or how you KNOW the content of these trails.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 20, 2016, 11:21:22 AM
How did you know I mentioned you?

I did not quote you.

Which can only mean you are monitoring my posts.

Which can only mean you are a shill.

Which can only mean you are shit at your shit job.

Checkmate, loser.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 20, 2016, 11:24:48 AM
How did you know I mentioned you?

I did not quote you.

Which can only mean you are monitoring my posts.

Which can only mean you are a shill.

Which can only mean you are shit at your shit job.

Checkmate, loser.
How did I know you mentioned me?  I can read.  Monitoring you?  Nope.  It means I am using the forum as it is designed.  ANYONE registered can mark ANY thread for notification.  Through the magic of the internet ANYONE can get an email when ANY thread they are interested in is updated.  Just because YOU don't realize how this works doesn't mean nobody else does.

And AGAIN, I am not paid to post here or anywhere else.  It is not my job to post here or anywhere else and it never has been.  Your repeated insistence that it is only reflects YOUR feeble attempts at poisoning the well.

edited for clarity.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 20, 2016, 11:25:29 AM

How did you know I mentioned you?

I did not quote you.

Which can only mean you are monitoring my posts.

Which can only mean you are a shill.

Which can only mean you are shit at your shit job.

Checkmate, loser.
What's the difference between tin and aluminum?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 20, 2016, 12:42:19 PM
Monitoring you?  Nope.

Yes.

Look:

ANYONE registered can mark ANY thread for notification.  ANYONE can get an email when ANY thread they are interested in is updated

In other words you are monitoring this thread.

Like the shill you are.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 20, 2016, 12:49:58 PM
Monitoring you?  Nope.

Yes.

Look:

ANYONE registered can mark ANY thread for notification.  ANYONE can get an email when ANY thread they are interested in is updated

In other words you are monitoring this thread.

Like the shill you are.
::)  Using the forum as designed.
I'm interested in the thread, not you.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 20, 2016, 01:03:04 PM
I'm interested in the thread, not you.

The thread I started?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 20, 2016, 01:16:41 PM
I'm interested in the thread, not you.

The thread I started?
so I can't be interested in a subject if you start the thread?  Are you the thought police?

How do you know the trails were for the surveyors?  How do you know the content of the trails?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: disputeone on May 20, 2016, 04:26:52 PM

How did you know I mentioned you?

I did not quote you.

Which can only mean you are monitoring my posts.

Which can only mean you are a shill.

Which can only mean you are shit at your shit job.

Checkmate, loser.
What's the difference between tin and aluminum?

Also,
The other object is the exhaust.

Do you play chess Papa? Perhaps we could play online?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 20, 2016, 04:43:08 PM

Do you play chess Papa? Perhaps we could play online?



I would pay to watch that.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on May 20, 2016, 08:50:16 PM
Monitoring you?  Nope.

Yes.

Look:

ANYONE registered can mark ANY thread for notification.  ANYONE can get an email when ANY thread they are interested in is updated

In other words you are monitoring this thread.

Like the shill you are.

Oh so I guess that makes you a shill too since you also monitor this thread and respond within minutes. You are makin a mountain out of literally nothing. Everyone who responds to this thread reads it, follows it, and gets notifications. Seriously you need professional help. You are paranoid. Which is good for me. Whenever someone calls me paranoid for believing in stuff like UFOs and 9/11 was an inside job, I always know that I'm not as bad as certain people.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 20, 2016, 10:35:47 PM
so I can't be interested in a subject if you start the thread?

You're not interested in the subject at all though.

You're obsessed with denying every single aspect of it in fact.

And you leap in to do so within minutes.

Are you mental?

As for the surveyors, there were only two things happening in the valley that sunday:

1: the surveying for a £450 million pound construction project.

2: the laying of three low-altitude chemtrails directly above the surveyors.

Excuse me for believing they were connected; your shill-mind will of course prevent you from agreeing and keep you demanding impossible evidence forever, for which I pity you.

Shit job you got, frenny-boy...

Shit job.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 20, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
Lol

So no one has ever surveyed land without chemtrails?

Lol
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 21, 2016, 12:24:44 AM
. . . there were only two things happening ... that sunday:

1: surveying.

2: chemtrails.

Excuse me for believing they were connected


I went fishing on a Sunday.

1: It was high tide.

2: I got sunburned.

Ergo: high tide causes sunburn.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 12:34:32 AM
Meh...

Perhaps they wanted to block the sun & prevent the poor surveyors getting sunburn?

Or maybe they paid for the Red Arrows to do a display to entertain the surveyors out of their £450 million budget?

Or maybe they sprayed low-level chemtrails to enhance the speed & accuracy of the surveyors work?

Your dumbass non-sequitur bullshit is noted, anyhow.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 21, 2016, 12:41:11 AM

. . . maybe they paid for the Red Arrows to do a display
to entertain the surveyors out of their £450 million budget?

. . . maybe they sprayed low-level chemtrails
to enhance the speed & accuracy of the surveyors work?



Maybe they were spraying elephant shit just to toy with you?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 01:37:05 AM
Do you like elephants?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 21, 2016, 01:46:00 AM


Maybe they were spraying elephant shit just to toy with you?

Thanks for making me laugh. Needed that one, long ass night of a long ass project.

I wish I knew the back story of Legba. What pond he was spawned in... it is mystifying
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 01:53:06 AM
Needed that one, long ass night of a long ass project.

Yeah, spending all your waking hours trolling & shilling the millions of people waking up to your military-industrial propaganda & embezzlement via the internet is indeed a 'long ass project'...

As they say in Texas, or wherever the hell it is your fevered imagination currently has you residing.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 21, 2016, 02:02:21 AM
Needed that one, long ass night of a long ass project.

Yeah, spending all your waking hours trolling & shilling the millions of people waking up to your military-industrial propaganda & embezzlement via the internet is indeed a 'long ass project'...

As they say in Texas, or wherever the hell it is your fevered imagination currently has you residing.

Hey pumpkin... I have proved more than anyone on this thread of who I am.

As I have said before, I keep my mind busy at all times to keep my mind off occurrences of the past. Plus I own the damn place, so if I want to scratch my ass for an hour I can. If you notice I have been gone most of the day and evening. Now I am sitting back, drinking a beer and relaxing fighting with a conundrum.

Plus 14 post a day to 6...........hmmm...should you really throw rocks in glass houses
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 21, 2016, 02:17:18 AM
Do you like elephants?

not all of them
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 02:20:29 AM
I have proved more than anyone on this thread of who I am.

LOL!!!

Do you like elephants?

not all of them

Just flying Walt Disney cartoon ones like Dumbo, I'm guessing?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 21, 2016, 02:23:37 AM
I have proved more than anyone on this thread of who I am.

LOL!!!

Do you like elephants?

not all of them

Just flying Walt Disney cartoon ones like Dumbo, I'm guessing?

Yes yes...i apologize I typoed .....i meant to say forum not thread.

Not all of them ?? Awesome answer. I am sure there are some Legba elephants. The runt of the heard...but it has big dreams
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 02:26:47 AM
Just listen to yourselves...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 21, 2016, 02:33:22 AM
Just listen to yourselves...

What am I selling Legba?

What am I suppose to be listening to?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 02:40:22 AM
At least learn to speak English if you want us to buy your act ffs, you maniac.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 21, 2016, 02:49:05 AM
At least learn to speak English if you want us to buy your act ffs, you maniac.

Your rebuttal is empty and lacking in substance...care to try again? 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 21, 2016, 03:09:09 AM

Just flying Walt Disney cartoon ones like Dumbo, I'm guessing?



Not a fan of anthropomorphized animals.

Topsy was the best elephant ever.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
Your rebuttal is empty and lacking in substance...care to try again?

It wasn't a rebuttal, it was an observation; you just learnt the word 'rebuttal' from sokarul & like flinging it around.

Which is more proof you don't speak English btw, Napoleon Dynamite.

Which is another observation btw.

Not a fan of anthropomorphized animals.

Nobody cares.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 21, 2016, 03:38:53 AM

Not a fan of anthropomorphized animals.

Nobody cares.



You asked.

Having trouble keeping up?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 21, 2016, 05:31:57 AM
so I can't be interested in a subject if you start the thread?

You're not interested in the subject at all though.
Oh but I am.  I've been interested since about 2000 when I first started seeing posts on "chemtrails' on the internet.  I researched both sides and found the "chemtrail" side lacking in facts and research.  That hasn't changed.

You're obsessed with denying every single aspect of it in fact.
Not true.  I don't deny people see the trails.  I have however repeated asked for you to prove how you know things like the content of said trails and been met with silence.

And you leap in to do so within minutes.
Not always.  Sometimes I happen to be on the internet and sometimes I don't.

Are you mental?
Are you poisoning the well?

V
As for the surveyors, there were only two things happening in the valley that sunday:

1: the surveying for a £450 million pound construction project.

2: the laying of three low-altitude chemtrails directly above the surveyors.[/quote]
How do you know what the altitude was?  How do you know they were connected?  Does GPS stop working without the trails? (no)  How do you know the content of the trails?

Excuse me for believing they were connected; your shill-mind will of course prevent you from agreeing and keep you demanding impossible evidence forever, for which I pity you.
It isn't impossible to find out the content of the trails.  "Chemtrailers" have been promising direct testing for years but never follow through.  It isn't impossible evidence to ask how you know they were low altitude.  It isn't impossible evidence to ask how you know they are not just contrails.  The only thing seemingly impossible is expecting you will ever provide any evidence.  You've made quite a pattern of showing that you don't provide evidence for anything.

Shit job you got, frenny-boy...

Shit job.
Not my job.  You know that and you can't prove it is.  Your paranoid mind will of course prevent you from admitting you have no proof whatsoever.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 21, 2016, 05:36:56 AM
Meh...

Perhaps they wanted to block the sun & prevent the poor surveyors getting sunburn?

Or maybe they paid for the Red Arrows to do a display to entertain the surveyors out of their £450 million budget?

Or maybe they sprayed low-level chemtrails to enhance the speed & accuracy of the surveyors work?

Your dumbass non-sequitur bullshit is noted, anyhow.
Your suggestion would only have merit if you could prove the content of the trails, show the planes were not flying over for some other purpose, and prove the surveying equipment doesn't work without it.  You haven't even tried to do any of those.

So we're left with the most likely,

Maybe they were contrails left by planes that happened to be flying over.

Or you could prove otherwise.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 05:39:27 AM
I don't have to prove the contents, because they are clearly not normal contrails & clearly contain some type of fine particulate matter.

And you yourself have admitted that such fine particulates would enhance troposcatter.

Easy win, game over, checkmate, toodle-pip shill etc, etc, etc...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 05:40:47 AM
Looky here:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 21, 2016, 05:55:31 AM
I don't have to prove the contents, because they are clearly not normal contrails & clearly contain some type of fine particulate matter.
How is it clear?  How do they look different from any other persistent contrail?
So you don't have to prove the contents but you assume they must be what you think they are.

Looky here:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.
Cherrypicking quotes again?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 21, 2016, 06:05:46 AM

I don't have to prove the contents, because they are clearly not normal contrails & clearly contain some type of fine particulate matter.



clearly

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 21, 2016, 06:36:28 AM
Meh...

Perhaps they wanted to block the sun & prevent the poor surveyors getting sunburn?

Or maybe they paid for the Red Arrows to do a display to entertain the surveyors out of their £450 million budget?

Or maybe they sprayed low-level chemtrails to enhance the speed & accuracy of the surveyors work?

Your dumbass non-sequitur bullshit is noted, anyhow.
Real question. How would low level chemtrails help a surveyor?  Who is sending the signal bouncing off the chemtrail?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: DanneJeRusse on May 21, 2016, 06:42:56 AM
I don't have to prove the contents...

Of course, you don't, that would mean doing something other than making armchair assertions based on ignorance, the result of sitting in an armchair making assertions all day. Embrace the stupid, you do it so well.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 21, 2016, 07:59:52 AM

Or maybe they sprayed low-level chemtrails to enhance the speed & accuracy of the surveyors work?

Can you prove the speed and accuracy is enhanced when the trails are present?  or that the speed and accuracy is reduced when they aren't present?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on May 21, 2016, 08:35:19 AM
Meh...

Perhaps they wanted to block the sun & prevent the poor surveyors getting sunburn?

Or maybe they paid for the Red Arrows to do a display to entertain the surveyors out of their £450 million budget?

Or maybe they sprayed low-level chemtrails to enhance the speed & accuracy of the surveyors work?

Your dumbass non-sequitur bullshit is noted, anyhow.
Real question. How would low level chemtrails help a surveyor?  Who is sending the signal bouncing off the chemtrail?
Soooo.......
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 08:51:23 AM
Can you prove the speed and accuracy is enhanced when the trails are present? 

Well if it didn't enhance the speed & accuracy they wouldn't have done it, would they slow-learner?

Plus, they finished all the surveying for laying out an enormous, 10-year project - 65 acres, 2,000 housing units, 300,000 sq.ft of offices, a railway station, bridges, plus the railway line, even marking individual trees in the woods for removal - within two days.

Which is pretty fucking fast, believe me.

But it won't stop all you shills from nit-picking further; I look forward to reading your 'Prove it! Prove it!' bullshit until the very end of fucking time...

Who is sending the signal bouncing off the chemtrail?

The surveyors, via the local cell network, you dick.

Wtf is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 21, 2016, 08:57:16 AM
Well if it didn't enhance the speed & accuracy they wouldn't have done it, would they slow-learner?
Correlation does not equal causation.  You still haven't proven the trails were there for the surveyors.

Plus, they finished all the surveying for laying out an enormous, 10-year project - 65 acres, 2,000 housing units, 300,000 sq.ft of offices, a railway station, bridges, plus the railway line, even marking individual trees in the woods for removal - within two days.

Which is pretty fucking fast, believe me.
Because you're an expert surveyor now?  How do you know it wouldn't have been just as fast without the trails?


But it won't stop all you shills from nit-picking further; I look forward to reading your 'Prove it! Prove it!' bullshit until the very end of fucking time...
You could stop it by actually proving your claims. Why the aversion to evidence?

If you could prove the content of the trails I'd be on your side.  But nobody has done that.  The only samples taken have been collected on the ground.

Who is sending the signal bouncing off the chemtrail?

The surveyors, via the local cell network, you dick.

Wtf is wrong with you?
So you postulate even more people being in on it and nobody talking.  IF the signals were coming from the cell network then you could track them and show that.  I'm betting you won't.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 09:02:07 AM
Yeah, just like I predicted; 'PROVE IT PROVE IT PROVE IT!!!'...

Plus this gibberish:

So you postulate even more people being in on it and nobody talking.  IF the signals were coming from the cell network then you could track them and show that.  I'm betting you won't.

You dick.

Really...

You dick.

Just stop this bullshit, okay?

Chemtrails are sprayed to enhance comms reception - FACT.

A child can see it.

Yet you can't.

Grow the fuck up & stop Lying for a Living.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 21, 2016, 09:06:52 AM
Yeah, just like I predicted; 'PROVE IT PROVE IT PROVE IT!!!'...
Just like I predicted.  You have an aversion to evidence.

Plus this gibberish:

So you postulate even more people being in on it and nobody talking.  IF the signals were coming from the cell network then you could track them and show that.  I'm betting you won't.

You dick.

Really...

You dick.

Just stop this bullshit, okay?
So you won't track them.  Again, just like I predicted.  An aversion to actual evidence.
And you seem obsessed with dick.  You're really a teenager, aren't you?

Chemtrails are sprayed to enhance comms reception - FACT.

A child can see it.

Yet you can't.

Grow the fuck up & stop Lying for a Living.

Facts have evidence.  You have provided none.
This is not my job and I'm not lying.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: inquisitive on May 21, 2016, 09:09:32 AM
Search for 'GPS surveying equipment'. All explained.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 21, 2016, 09:11:32 AM
At what point in the training to be a surveyor do they get told that they need to send signals through the cell network and schedule the planes to fly overhead?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 21, 2016, 09:50:14 AM
Just out of curiosity, what good does it do to spray the chemtrails directly overhead when the signals are allegedly coming from the side?
(http://www.uksmg.org/content/images/tropo1.gif)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 11:19:41 AM
Just like I predicted.  You have an aversion to evidence.

Prove it.

Quote
So you won't track them.  Again, just like I predicted.  An aversion to actual evidence.
And you seem obsessed with dick.  You're really a teenager, aren't you?

Prove it.

Quote
Facts have evidence.  You have provided none.

Prove it.

Quote
This is not my job and I'm not lying.

Prove it.

Search for 'GPS surveying equipment'. All explained.

Prove it.

At what point in the training to be a surveyor do they get told that they need to send signals through the cell network and schedule the planes to fly overhead?

Prove they need to be told this.

Just out of curiosity, what good does it do to spray the chemtrails directly overhead when the signals are allegedly coming from the side?
(http://www.uksmg.org/content/images/tropo1.gif)

Is something missing from your unattributed diagram, perhaps?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Stanton on May 21, 2016, 11:48:14 AM

Is something missing from your unattributed diagram, perhaps?



A Gulfstream Jet?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 21, 2016, 12:01:31 PM
Just out of curiosity, what good does it do to spray the chemtrails directly overhead when the signals are allegedly coming from the side?
(http://www.uksmg.org/content/images/tropo1.gif)

Is something missing from your unattributed diagram, perhaps?
The diagram came from here: http://www.uksmg.org/content/tropo.htm (http://www.uksmg.org/content/tropo.htm)

What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 10:12:35 PM
What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 21, 2016, 10:14:55 PM
What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
???  Prove what?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 10:18:48 PM
What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
???  Prove what?

Exactly.

You have no proof for your claims whatsoever & are now running away.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 21, 2016, 10:59:04 PM
What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
???  Prove what?

Exactly.

You have no proof for your claims whatsoever & are now running away.
???  What claims am I supposed to prove and why aren't you obligated to prove your own claims?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
???  Prove what?

Exactly.

You have no proof for your claims whatsoever & are now running away.
???  What claims am I supposed to prove and why aren't you obligated to prove your own claims?

So you claim you made no claims?

Please provide proof of that.

As well as proof that I am obligated to prove my own claims whilst you are free to claim you made no claims whilst providing no proof for either.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 21, 2016, 11:21:05 PM

What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
???  Prove what?

Ha ha ha....this is Awesome!!! This is Legba's version of winning. I am going to say prove it to everyone tomorrow no matter what they say to me. Actually I need to go to the store so I can say prove it when they ask paper or plastic ha ha.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 21, 2016, 11:32:19 PM

What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
???  Prove what?

Ha ha ha....this is Awesome!!! This is Legba's version of winning. I am going to say prove it to everyone tomorrow no matter what they say to me. Actually I need to go to the store so I can say prove it when they ask paper or plastic ha ha.

So it's okay when super-shill frenat pulls this shit but not okay when I do it?

Sickening hypocrisy & shill-solidarity noted.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on May 22, 2016, 05:51:49 AM
If you really can't tell the difference between asking for evidence of claims like the trails contain barium and/or aluminum and the crap you're doing then that is really sad for you.  I'm betting you do though and this is just further proof you're really just a teenager
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 22, 2016, 06:17:26 AM
What's missing is an explanation of how troposcatter helps surveyors (which is your claim to support, not mine).

Prove it.
???  Prove what?

Exactly.

You have no proof for your claims whatsoever & are now running away.
???  What claims am I supposed to prove and why aren't you obligated to prove your own claims?

So you claim you made no claims?

Please provide proof of that.
How does someone prove a negative?

As well as proof that I am obligated to prove my own claims whilst you are free to claim you made no claims whilst providing no proof for either.

Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 22, 2016, 07:50:23 AM
If you really can't tell the difference between asking for evidence of claims like the trails contain barium and/or aluminum and the crap you're doing then that is really sad for you.

Please provide proof for this assertion.

How does someone prove a negative?

Please provide proof that I asked you to prove a negative when I asked you for proof of your claim that you made no claims; the non-existence of your claimed non-claims should be a matter of record, surely?

Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.

Please provide proof that I have neither offered evidence that could reasonably be believed, nor met the obligation to evoke evidence of my contention's probable truth in order to establish it as fact.



Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 22, 2016, 08:01:01 AM
Wake me up when you feel like contributing anything to the discussion.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 22, 2016, 11:49:28 AM
Wake me up when you feel like contributing anything to the discussion.

Please provide proof that I have not contributed anything to the discussion on a thread I started.

You may have difficulty with this one, Perry Freemason...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on May 22, 2016, 02:32:26 PM

You may have difficulty with this one, Perry Freemason...

Ok that is funny, I have to give credit for that.

  I'm betting you do though and this is just further proof you're really just a teenager

I would like to know how old Legba really is. You get visuals of people reading now they communicate, visual of him is quite interesting lol. It would be cool to do how some forums do and have actual meetings twice a year or something like that. Though it seems transparency is not viewed highly by most here.

Now I am sure I will get yelled at for "trying to get people's info" like I did when I sarcastically asked for Legba's address to send him a kitten .

I have learned most of the long term regulars here do not like me and I have not figured out the motivation yet. Maybe it's the transparency issue, hell I don't know. Maybe I am a sock puppet shill, so brainwashed that I myself do not even realize it
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 25, 2016, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.

Please provide proof that I have neither offered evidence that could reasonably be believed, nor met the obligation to evoke evidence of my contention's probable truth in order to establish it as fact.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on May 25, 2016, 03:49:52 PM
Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.

Please provide proof that I have neither offered evidence that could reasonably be believed, nor met the obligation to evoke evidence of my contention's probable truth in order to establish it as fact.
Conclusive proof can be found here (https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1060513).
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 26, 2016, 12:35:57 AM
Incorrect.

Try again, old man...

Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.

Please provide proof that I have neither offered evidence that could reasonably be believed, nor met the obligation to evoke evidence of my contention's probable truth in order to establish it as fact.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on May 26, 2016, 04:08:33 AM
I would like to know how old Legba really is. You get visuals of people reading now they communicate, visual of him is quite interesting lol.
The best I can guess is that Papa is a 3 year old, going on 65! And he doesn't communicate - he spouts!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on May 26, 2016, 04:38:56 AM
Tell us more about these magical clouds that contain no water, Geoff, you mental old soak...

The rest of you:

Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.

Please provide proof that I have neither offered evidence that could reasonably be believed, nor met the obligation to evoke evidence of my contention's probable truth in order to establish it as fact.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 03, 2016, 02:21:48 PM
You all ran away from this too:

Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.

Please provide proof that I have neither offered evidence that could reasonably be believed, nor met the obligation to evoke evidence of my contention's probable truth in order to establish it as fact.

Now watch frenat magically appear!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on June 03, 2016, 03:07:59 PM
You all ran away from this too:

Quote from: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/burden-of-proof
burden of proof

noun
1. Chiefly Law. the obligation to offer evidence that the court or jury could reasonably believe, in support of a contention, failing which the case will be lost.

2. the obligation to establish a contention as fact by evoking evidence of its probable truth.

Please provide proof that I have neither offered evidence that could reasonably be believed, nor met the obligation to evoke evidence of my contention's probable truth in order to establish it as fact.

Now watch frenat magically appear!
I posted a link to your entire post history.  How much more evidence do you need? ???
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 03, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
So you can't do it?

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Empirical on June 04, 2016, 08:55:21 AM
I am bringing to think Papa is joking.
Po's law.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on June 04, 2016, 09:01:37 AM
So you can't do it?

Fair enough.
What evidence do you have that I didn't do it?
Title: no dog
Post by: Charming Anarchist on June 10, 2016, 04:37:32 PM
Let us examine the term 'over the horizon communications'; because that is what chemtrails facilitate.

Note the word 'OVER'...

If there is no horizon, as on the b.s. flat earth, why would OVER the horizon comms be needed?
They have to call them something. 

I trust you are not playing semantics but I know nothing about engineering communications.  For all I know, the chemtrails speed up signals.  If that is all they do for communications, then the form of the earth is irrelevent. 

Why are OVER the horizon comms needed? 

Plus, if you get to an elevated vantage point, you can WATCH a chemtrailing plane rise up above the horizon, the trail it leaves behind CLEARLY following the curvature exactly as predicted.
What is that prediction?  How is the appearance of the chemtrails indicative of curvature?

I do not have a dog in this race.  I just want to enjoy the truth. 
Title: Re: no dog
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 01:42:19 AM
Plus, if you get to an elevated vantage point, you can WATCH a chemtrailing plane rise up above the horizon, the trail it leaves behind CLEARLY following the curvature exactly as predicted.
What is that prediction?  How is the appearance of the chemtrails indicative of curvature?

I do not have a dog in this race.  I just want to enjoy the truth.

The prediction is that an object will follow the stated curvature of the earth as it gets further away & that with increased distance this curve will become more pronounced.

It is difficult to be in the correct position to observe chemplanes obeying this prediction; I was lucky inasmuch as I was in an elevated position with clear views to the horizon, & two of them were coming almost directly towards me, one a few minutes after the other, with the dawn sun helping illuminate their trails so as to be clearly visible (they were heading roughly SSE-NNW btw).

As they came over the horizon they appeared to be travelling near vertically, slowly levelling out as they got closer until they were following a horizontal path as they flew overhead.

I did not observe the 1st one come over the horizon, but noticed the trail & initially thought it to be smoke from a power-station or similar due to its near-vertical nature; then I saw it was in fact a chemplane.

The 2nd one was following a similar flight-path though, so I was able to observe its behaviour in its entirety.

This is what I observed, & this observation was in accord with the earth having curvature.

It does not mean the entire earth is curved; but my little bit of it certainly seems to be.

All I can suggest is that you try to make the same observations yourself & draw your own conclusions from them.

I have drawn mine.
Title: Re: no dog
Post by: rabinoz on June 11, 2016, 02:00:34 AM
Let us examine the term 'over the horizon communications'; because that is what chemtrails facilitate.

Note the word 'OVER'...

If there is no horizon, as on the b.s. flat earth, why would OVER the horizon comms be needed?
They have to call them something. 

I trust you are not playing semantics but I know nothing about engineering communications.  For all I know, the chemtrails speed up signals.  If that is all they do for communications, then the form of the earth is irrelevent. 

No, no, Papa would never be guilty of "playing semantics", he thinks that's related to racism.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 02:09:50 AM
Let us examine the term 'over the horizon communications'; because that is what chemtrails facilitate.

Note the word 'OVER'...

If there is no horizon, as on the b.s. flat earth, why would OVER the horizon comms be needed?
They have to call them something. 

I trust you are not playing semantics but I know nothing about engineering communications.  For all I know, the chemtrails speed up signals.  If that is all they do for communications, then the form of the earth is irrelevent. 

No, no, Papa would never be guilty of "playing semantics", he thinks that's related to racism.

See?

Why would a blatant 'round earther' shill want to astroturf & ignore clear evidence in favour of curvature of the earth?

Answer that & you'll get closer to the heart of what is really going on here.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on June 11, 2016, 02:45:10 AM
Let us examine the term 'over the horizon communications'; because that is what chemtrails facilitate.
6
Note the word 'OVER'...

If there is no horizon, as on the b.s. flat earth, why would OVER the horizon comms be needed?
They have to call them something. 

I trust you are not playing semantics but I know nothing about engineering communications.  For all I know, the chemtrails speed up signals.  If that is all they do for communications, then the form of the earth is irrelevent. 

No, no, Papa would never be guilty of "playing semantics", he thinks that's related to racism.

See?

Why would a blatant 'round earther' shill want to astroturf & ignore clear evidence in favour of curvature of the earth?

Answer that & you'll get closer to the heart of what is really going on here.
And I thought I was defending you by saying that you would never be guilty of a purely "semantic" argument! Next time I won't bother.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on June 11, 2016, 02:46:09 AM
As they came over the horizon they appeared to be travelling near vertically, slowly levelling out as they got closer until they were following a horizontal path as they flew overhead.
Indeed, I see that nearly every day.   I presumed the vertical path is to achieve height. 
The chemplanes I see are clearly flying much higher than the clouds and they travel far.  It looks to me like their paths chase the path of the sun. 

At some point, the laws of perspective kick in and none of these planes are compelled to follow a straight path. 


It does not mean the entire earth is curved; but my little bit of it certainly seems to be.
I can appreciate that being possible.  There have been old maps depicting as such. 






See?

Why would a blatant 'round earther' shill want to astroturf & ignore clear evidence in favour of curvature of the earth?

Answer that & you'll get closer to the heart of what is really going on here.
The avoidance by the shills is indeed suspect and is much greater evidence than watching planes fly by, in my opinion. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 03:11:34 AM
As they came over the horizon they appeared to be travelling near vertically, slowly levelling out as they got closer until they were following a horizontal path as they flew overhead.
Indeed, I see that nearly every day.   I presumed the vertical path is to achieve height.

There are no airfields for over 100 miles in the direction I observed the planes from so it is very unlikely they were climbing.

Besides, a near-vertical rate of climb would be impossible for commercial jets to achieve.

Also, they seemed to be following the path of the nearest motorway & air-corridors , not the sun.

The avoidance by the shills is indeed suspect and is much greater evidence than watching planes fly by, in my opinion.

It is extraordinarily suspect; they are clearly under orders to bury the subject, which is the opposite of what you'd expect of a phenomenon that so obviously supports their assertions.





Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on June 11, 2016, 04:41:23 AM
O God, this is still going? Sheesh.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 04:48:50 AM
^Yet another 'round earther' (lol!) sock-shill trying to astroturf & ignore a simple observation that supports the earth having curvature.

You'd think they'd be over the moon about it, & running round with cameras trying to film it...

But no.

They want to pretend it doesn't exist.

Now why would that be, I wonder?

LOL!!!

Legba KNOWS why that is...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on June 11, 2016, 06:08:23 AM
Legba KNOWS why that is...
....and yet, you have not disclosed that in 13+ page thread. 
Why is that? 

Your evidence of terrestrial curvature comes from observing the vertical ascent of airplanes.  So.......... the (man-controlled) path in the air.....  indicates the form on earth..... according to your logic.  Am I missing something?? 

I would like to see a photograph of your evidence.  I would settle for a hand-drawn sketch too to illustrate the geometry. You have not offered anything that can not be explained away by the laws of perspective. 




It is extraordinarily suspect; they are clearly under orders to bury the subject, which is the opposite of what you'd expect of a phenomenon that so obviously supports their assertions.
Not necessarily. 
They could simply be ordered:  "Do not mention chemtrails.  Pretend they do not exist.  Yes, yes, we know..... the path of the chemtrails is your best evidence of "globature" but revealing chemtrails is worse than any failure to convince folks the earth is flat.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 08:40:33 AM
Your evidence of terrestrial curvature comes from observing the vertical ascent of airplanes.

So they're using vertical take-off planes for chemtrailing now?

That look exactly like commercial airliners & take off unnoticed from a secret airbase just outside a major conurbation?

You are reaching badly here.

I observed a plane come over the horizon, flying straight & level at a set cruising altitude, & it followed the curvature as expected.

The fact that it was leaving a chemtrail behind it is what made the curvature visible.

It is the most striking visual evidence of curvature I have ever observed.

Yet none of the shills here mention it & they also want to bury my observation of it...

They could just say it is a 'persistent contrail'...

But no; instead they bury it.

I know why they do this.

And they know that I know why they do this.

It is a fun game!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on June 11, 2016, 10:24:47 AM
Your evidence of terrestrial curvature comes from observing the vertical ascent of airplanes.
So they're using vertical take-off planes for chemtrailing now?
Well, the planes start on the ground.  Then the planes go up. 

The shortest way up is straight. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 12:36:04 PM
Nice avatar, Brother.

Goodbye.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on June 11, 2016, 01:33:07 PM
^Yet another 'round earther' (lol!) sock-shill trying to astroturf & ignore a simple observation that supports the earth having curvature.

You'd think they'd be over the moon about it, & running round with cameras trying to film it...

But no.

They want to pretend it doesn't exist.

Now why would that be, I wonder?

LOL!!!

Legba KNOWS why that is...

Actually, if you look at my post history, I just came back to the site. I'm just amazed at how long your stupidity has lasted.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 01:47:40 PM
^Yet another 'round earther' (lol!) sock-shill trying to astroturf & ignore a simple observation that supports the earth having curvature.

You'd think they'd be over the moon about it, & running round with cameras trying to film it...

But no.

They want to pretend it doesn't exist.

Now why would that be, I wonder?

LOL!!!

Legba KNOWS why that is...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on June 11, 2016, 01:50:49 PM
Still waiting on that PL ban for spamming the forums, jroa/Pongo/JohnDavis
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on June 11, 2016, 01:58:01 PM
Still waiting on that PL ban for spamming the forums, jroa/Pongo/JohnDavis

You are waiting for a moderator to take action on something lol?...you sure about that?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 11, 2016, 02:02:22 PM
^Yet more shills trying to bury clear evidence that SUPPORTS a round earth.

I observed a plane come over the horizon, flying straight & level at a set cruising altitude, & it followed the curvature as expected.

The fact that it was leaving a chemtrail behind it is what made the curvature visible.

It is the most striking visual evidence of curvature I have ever observed.

Yet none of the shills here mention it & they also want to bury my observation of it...

They could just say it is a 'persistent contrail'...

But no; instead they bury it.

I know why they do this.

And they know that I know why they do this.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on June 11, 2016, 02:41:36 PM
Still waiting on that PL ban for spamming the forums, jroa/Pongo/JohnDavis

You are waiting for a moderator to take action on something lol?...you sure about that?
Fair point.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on June 11, 2016, 02:48:33 PM
Sure contrails support a round Earth, but it is a rather weak support.  Too easily brushed aside as perspective or ascending/descending aircraft or following the imaginary dome.

Personally I think far more striking evidence is how the Sun can illuminate clouds from underneath during sunrises and sunsets and stars rotating around the Southern celestial pole. 

This seems off-topic though.  I'm still waiting for some/any proof of the claimed content of the trails.

But yeah, contrails are yet another sign or a round Earth.  I haven't seen anybody trying to bury it though.  I just figured nobody really cared and there are other more interesting threads and oh wait, there are.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on June 11, 2016, 07:11:57 PM
^Yet more shills trying to bury clear evidence that SUPPORTS a round earth.

I observed a plane come over the horizon, flying straight & level at a set cruising altitude, & it followed the curvature as expected.

The fact that it was leaving a chemtrail behind it is what made the curvature visible.

It is the most striking visual evidence of curvature I have ever observed.

Yet none of the shills here mention it & they also want to bury my observation of it...

They could just say it is a 'persistent contrail'...

But no; instead they bury it.

I know why they do this.

And they know that I know why they do this.
Do you think clouds exist?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on June 11, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
I observed a plane come over the horizon, flying straight & level at a set cruising altitude, & it followed the curvature as expected.
The fact that it was leaving a chemtrail behind it is what made the curvature visible.
It is the most striking visual evidence of curvature I have ever observed.

I do really think you've been exposed to too many chemicals (most likely LSD?), but don't you really mean:

"I observed a plane come over the horizon, flying straight & level at a set cruising altitude, & it followed the curvature as expected.
The fact that it was leaving a contrail behind it is what made the curvature visible.
It is the most striking visual evidence of curvature I have ever observed."

But of course these crafty Flat Earthers will come along any say "that's just perspective"!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 12, 2016, 01:21:17 AM
I just figured nobody really cared and there are other more interesting threads and oh wait, there are.

Then why is this one of the threads you get email notification of posts on & in the past have obsessively replied to within minutes with tl;dr disinfo bullshit?

Yet more proof you are a liar.

Remember; just because you don't understand how we all know you are a shill it doesn't mean it's not true.

Oh, & STFU Geoff.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on June 12, 2016, 05:07:35 AM
I just figured nobody really cared and there are other more interesting threads and oh wait, there are.

Then why is this one of the threads you get email notification of posts on & in the past have obsessively replied to within minutes with tl;dr disinfo bullshit?

Yet more proof you are a liar.

Remember; just because you don't understand how we all know you are a shill it doesn't mean it's not true.

Oh, & STFU Geoff.
I get email notifications for the majority of recent threads in general, debate, and Q&A.  When I see a new one I subscribe.  That is how forums work.  I'm sorry that basic software features confuse you.  This one used to be more interesting then you decided you were more interested in off-topic stuff instead of proving any of your assertions.  As far as "within minutes" that has only happened when I already happened to be online.  You have done the same so what does that say about you?  As far as "tl;dr disinfo bullshit" you have yet to show how anything I've posted is disinfo or bullshit.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 12, 2016, 07:58:29 AM
Blah, lie, blah, waffle, shill, time-waste, blah...

Just because you pretend you cannot understand how we all know you are a shill, it doesn't mean it's not true.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on June 12, 2016, 08:13:13 AM
Blah, lie, blah, waffle, shill, time-waste, blah...

Just because you pretend you cannot understand how we all know you are a shill, it doesn't mean it's not true.

Thank you for proving you can't show anything I've posted is disinfo.  Very nice of you to make it clear for everyone that you're really just an angry teenager.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on June 12, 2016, 11:03:32 AM
I get email notifications for the majority of recent threads in general, debate, and Q&A.  When I see a new one I subscribe.  That is how forums work. 
Thank you for confirming that you are either insane or a shill.

It is not normal to argue with flat-earthers, ok?  I say that as a person who is 100% convinced that we are NOT on a globe. 



Go tell all of your "friends" that you argue with flat-earthers on the internet.  Come back and tell us how they react. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on June 12, 2016, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: Charming Anarchist and Papa Legba
Boo-hoo-hoo!  I just want to make fun of space agencies and anyone else I think is part of the conspiracy, without ever bothering to understand the topics they deal with!  Why do these round-earther shills keep pestering me with facts?!  Don't they realize I'm never wrong about anything?!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 12, 2016, 12:36:03 PM
 ::)

'Aerospace engineering student & defender of NASA'...

Yeah, right.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on June 12, 2016, 12:39:10 PM
Thank you for confirming that you are either insane or a shill.

It is not normal to argue with flat-earthers, ok?  I say that as a person who is 100% convinced that we are NOT on a globe. 



Go tell all of your "friends" that you argue with flat-earthers on the internet.  Come back and tell us how they react.

Most don't believe there would be people dumb enough to believe the earth is flat.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on June 12, 2016, 01:03:36 PM
Most don't believe there would be people dumb enough to believe the earth is flat.
Oh, so you have tried it, have you? 

So, when you told your "friends" that you argue with flat-earthers on the internet, they responded "Say, what??  There aint nobody dumb enough to believe the earth is flat.  You must have been talking to somebody else.  You sure you were talking to flat-earthers?  Hey........ what they hell are you talking to flat-earthers on the internet for anyways?   Are you feverish?????????????????????"
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on June 12, 2016, 01:11:36 PM
Anyone who questions my beliefs must not be who they say they are. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on June 12, 2016, 01:24:20 PM
People who argue with flat-earthers are cazy.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on June 12, 2016, 01:33:35 PM
Or maybe they just like to have fun debating. It kinda makes you think a little too.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Blue_Moon on June 12, 2016, 06:28:11 PM
People who argue with flat-earthers are crazy.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 20, 2016, 11:32:09 AM
I ain't a flat earther.

And if you've got any brains, this thread will show you why the whole 'flat earth movement' is a disinfo-campaign.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: John Davis on June 20, 2016, 11:57:27 AM
I ain't a flat earther.

And if you've got any brains, this thread will show you why the whole 'flat earth movement' is a disinfo-campaign.
We get paid the big bucks by the Illuminati. Its true.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 20, 2016, 12:10:39 PM
Hi markjo!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: John Davis on June 20, 2016, 12:13:18 PM
You just think everybody is everybody else, don't you.  ::)  The evidence is growing concerning your true nature.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 20, 2016, 12:27:17 PM
::)

Hi again markjo!

Just love them rolly-eye emojis dontcha?

Daft senile fucker...

This forum is SO busted as total sock-puppeted disinfo...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on June 20, 2016, 01:04:31 PM
This forum is SO busted as total sock-puppeted disinfo...

So, as we've asked countless times, why don't you just GTFO (http://img.memecdn.com/gtfo_o_209894.jpg)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on June 20, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
I ain't a flat earther.
Maybe not, but you should be.  You're contrarian enough.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: John Davis on June 20, 2016, 02:14:50 PM
I ain't a flat earther.
Maybe not, but you should be.  You're contrarian enough.
Stop being me, markjo.  ::)
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Empirical on June 21, 2016, 12:48:49 AM
::)

Hi again markjo!

Just love them rolly-eye emojis dontcha?

Daft senile fucker...

This forum is SO busted as total sock-puppeted disinfo...
Shut up Geoff!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on June 21, 2016, 11:04:41 AM
Look at you losing it...

Everyone knows this forum is controlled opposition & that the 'flat earth movement' (lol!) is a military-industrial sponsored psy-op.

Chemtrails alone prove it six ways from sunday.

Now fuck off.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 22, 2016, 02:52:33 AM
Look at you losing it...

Everyone knows this forum is controlled opposition & that the 'flat earth movement' (lol!) is a military-industrial sponsored psy-op.

Chemtrails alone prove it six ways from sunday.

Now fuck off.


Do you ever get tired of being a prick?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 15, 2016, 01:36:30 PM
Butthurt?

Try Germoloids.

Anyhoo; thought I'd bump this for the lulz, as it pretty much busts your entire disinfo-play wide open...

Yeah; you know it does!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: hoppy on July 15, 2016, 01:58:27 PM
Butthurt?

Try Germoloids.

Anyhoo; thought I'd bump this for the lulz, as it pretty much busts your entire disinfo-play wide open...

Yeah; you know it does!
Lulz yeah.
 Pappy, I know I would feel foolish alligning my thoughts with these roundies on here, thinking the world is round. Why would they be on here promoting space travel ( lie) and round earth at the same time.
 They are actually here promoting 2 reinforcing lies at the same time. Please reconsider your stance on the earths' shape.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 15, 2016, 02:06:23 PM
I will only consider the evidence of my senses.

I ask nothing of anyone else.

Chemtrails are the crux of this entire disinfo-web.

To understand them is to understand all.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on July 15, 2016, 02:41:41 PM
Butthurt?

Try Germoloids.

Anyhoo; thought I'd bump this for the lulz, as it pretty much busts your entire disinfo-play wide open...

Yeah; you know it does!
what is the difference between tin and aluminum?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: JerkFace on July 15, 2016, 08:48:09 PM

 Pappy, I know I would feel foolish alligning my thoughts with these roundies on here, thinking the world is round. Why would they be on here promoting space travel ( lie) and round earth at the same time.
 They are actually here promoting 2 reinforcing lies at the same time. Please reconsider your stance on the earths' shape.

Uh...  the earth  IS a globe,  and space travel IS real.   Sorry to have to state the obvious.   No need to thank me,  you are welcome.


PS.   And Papa Legba is STILL seriously uncool.



Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 15, 2016, 11:18:04 PM
Nice false dialectic you're spamming there, Geoff...

Sums up the entire 'flat earth movement' psy-op in one post.

Thanks for that - u iz da kewlest!

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on July 16, 2016, 06:50:21 AM
Chemtrails are the crux of this entire disinfo-web.

To understand them is to understand all.
Are you allowed to explain? 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 16, 2016, 06:52:27 AM
I already have.

Are you 'allowed' to understand?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on July 16, 2016, 07:01:10 AM
I already have.
Please provide a link because....

Are you 'allowed' to understand?
.... I do not have a dog in this race. 

The only explanation that I have found from you is pure bullshit and I am calling you out on it again.  You refused to engage. 
If it is truth, spit it out.

Do you have a dog in this race?  You certainly act like you do and I am calling you out on that as well. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 16, 2016, 07:21:23 AM
I am calling you out on that as well. 

I've been waiting for you to ever since you appeared...

Legba sees all voodoo, you know?

Read the thread; it's explained in there & it's not at all hard to understand...

If you're 'allowed' to, that is.

Nice avatar btw; you got the one-eye thing going on, the vector, the inverted 'hanged man' schtick - you know, pretty much all the crappy symbolism I'd expect from a...

Well, let's leave it at that eh?

Nah, fuck it; let's LOL at you!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on July 16, 2016, 08:02:51 AM
All I want to know is your logical connection between the form of chemtrails that we see in the sky and the true form of the earth. 

A year ago I was 100% convinced we were spinning around float in a fictious space.  I believed the pre-programming bullshit just like everybody else who grew up with a globe in the classroom and WarnerBrothers cartoons.  Today, I am 100% convinced it is deliberate calculated lies and I see the multiple incentives to keep the sheeple penned in both physically and mentally.  It did not take much to change my thinking.  I am not asking much of you. 

I understand the way misleading folks can give an upper hand in a conversation. 
You think I am a shill.  Good.  Keep it that way.  That gives me an upper hand on your postings.   

SHORT VERSION:  I trust you but it is clear you are hiding something.  That is OK because I continue to learn from your posts ---- even though it is like pulling teeth.  I can count on 1 hand how many active members are NOT on my Ignore list and you are still not on it.  I am willing to slog through your foul language.  I really hope 1 day to be able to get my kids to read this forum but your demeanor is not helping and it is not necessary. 

You are here acting like you have to be here. 




You say that chemtrails prove the earth is NOT flat and I want to believe it because I am open to that possibility.   
You say that the shills/disinfo agents avoid using chemtrails to prove their case because it would expose them to reveal the chemtrail crime. 

So, tell us:  How does the visual evidence prove the earth is NOT flat? 

Nah, fuck it; let's LOL at you!
You are not funny. 
You are hiding something and I am calling you out on it. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 16, 2016, 08:44:22 AM
You act like you have a right to be owed a non-zero amount of fucks from myself as to what your opinion is.

You do not.

Your avatar told me all I needed to know about you the moment I saw it.

I knew it would only be a matter of time before you, too, would be making the same shrill & tiresome demands upon me as every other boring obvious shit-at-voodoo fucker here...

And I was right.

I have no interest in whether you understand how chemtrails prove curvature.

I have no interest in whether you understand that chemtrails are there to enhance the comms capabilities that fake satellites supposedly provide.

I have no interest in whether you understand that many chemtrail activists are unaware of space-fakery & that a plan was needed to associate the idea of space-fakery with the most unlikely & distracting concept possible in order to prevent them joining the dots & seeing the truth.

I have no interest in whether you understand that the chosen unlikely & distracting concept was Flat Earth.

I have no interest in whether you understand the nature & purpose of False Dialectics, Divide-&-Rule or Controlled Opposition.

I do not write for those with evidence-immunity syndrome, nor am I here to make friends.

I am here because you Invoked me.

Now, just so you cannot show this post to your imaginary 'kids', kindly fuck off & leave me the fuck alone.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on July 16, 2016, 08:53:08 AM
You act like you have a right to be owed a non-zero amount of fucks from myself as to what your opinion is.
I am cool with that.  Just like the shills avoid chemtrails, there is something you are avoiding. 
You shoot from the hip and you make shit up to deflect. 

If you were following a script and if you were paid in potatoes, you would not have posted your commentary.   That is good.  That tells me I can still trust you despite your hysteria. 

I work with idiots too. 
Keep posting and I keep learning from you ---- even though it is like pulling teeth. 






Your avatar told me all I needed to know about you the moment I saw it.
You did not even go-ogle it long enough before shooting your mouth off. 
That is a clue. 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 16, 2016, 09:59:34 AM
Just like the shills avoid chemtrails, there is something you are avoiding.

Yeah; it's wasting time on people with avatars full of Masonic symbolism.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Charming Anarchist on July 16, 2016, 10:42:04 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah..... you keep doing whatever you have to do. 

Meanwhile, in other news, chemtrails prove that it the earth is.... uh.... round (http://) because..... uh. just because! 

Duh.... what I want to know is uh...... should we or should we not be wearing a tin foil hat?? 
Yuk, yuk.   Over to you Papa! 
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 16, 2016, 10:55:36 AM
See ya, Rayzor/markjo/babyhighspeed/who-the-fuck-ever!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: John Davis on July 17, 2016, 12:28:35 AM
I'm going to take take ALICE and feed it all of papa legba's posts! Then we can have the angriest AI ever. #thisIsHowYouGetTerminator.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: rabinoz on July 17, 2016, 02:53:36 AM
I'm going to take take ALICE and feed it all of papa legba's posts! Then we can have the angriest AI ever. #thisIsHowYouGetTerminator.
Will that mean that they get removed from the site?  But, I wonder if Alice's digestive can't take it. Have plenty of Mylanta on hand.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 21, 2016, 09:38:38 PM
Managed to forum-slide this thread off the top of the 1st page in only 7 hours, eh, shills?

Shows how desperate you are.

And look; it's back again anyway.

Poor useless unbannable bastards...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on July 29, 2016, 01:07:50 PM
The whole post you cherry-picked from and try to ignore the rest of.

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.
Would it be useful only to increase range in certain frequencies of radio communications and useless for precision location because the particles would be constantly moving and impossible to predict?  Most definitely yes.
Would it look completely different from the artificially created cirrus clouds we see created by planes and likely invisible from the ground?  Again, most definitely yes.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on July 29, 2016, 01:16:05 PM
Hi shill!

Let's look at you shilling:

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Anyhoo, back to the enormous mistake you made earlier you useless POS:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.


lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on July 29, 2016, 01:18:39 PM
You deleted your post lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Luke 22:35-38 on July 29, 2016, 09:55:11 PM
Hi shill!

Let's look at you shilling:

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

Anyhoo, back to the enormous mistake you made earlier you useless POS:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.


lol.

You're back! Where have you been?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on July 29, 2016, 10:09:30 PM
He was banned. And he was re-banned after two minutes on the site. I think it's in the help and support sub-forum.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on August 06, 2016, 02:50:26 PM
Oh he is fucking back with a damn vengeance. Ever kept a dog in a yard for a few days then just open the gate?

It runs faster than it has ever ran before, nipping, barking, and snapping at everything. In a confusing bout of anger, happiness and a general state of confusion
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 06, 2016, 03:08:22 PM
Shouldn't you be building a giant vacuum chamber & running an aerospace company or somesuch mad imaginary shit?

Just lol.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 06, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
You shills hate this thread dontcha?

lol

Anyhoo, back to the enormous mistake you made earlier you useless POS:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

lol.

BAD shill...

NAUGHTY!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on August 06, 2016, 05:58:02 PM
You shills hate this thread dontcha?

lol

Anyhoo, back to the enormous mistake you made earlier you useless POS:

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

lol.

BAD shill...

NAUGHTY!
How sad that all you have is cherry-picking of quotes.

Of course you have to ignore the rest because it doesn't fit with your predetermined conclusions.

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatter?  Sure.
Would it be useful only to increase range in certain frequencies of radio communications and useless for precision location because the particles would be constantly moving and impossible to predict?  Most definitely yes.
Would it look completely different from the artificially created cirrus clouds we see created by planes and likely invisible from the ground?  Again, most definitely yes.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 11:59:21 AM
Some mad shill shit that nobody reads...

Get a proper job ffs.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on August 09, 2016, 12:11:45 PM
Some mad shill shit that nobody reads...

Get a proper job ffs.
Still not my job to post here nor anywhere else.  Never was.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 12:33:04 PM
Still not my job to post here nor anywhere else.  Never was.

Prove it shill.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on August 09, 2016, 12:39:39 PM
Still not my job to post here nor anywhere else.  Never was.

Prove it shill person I disagree with.

How would you propose I prove a negative?

Can you prove your affirmative claim that it is my job?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 01:08:21 PM
Yup:

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

You & Heiwa are quite the double-act aintcha shill?

Like Laurel & Hardy except shit.

What a waste your life is...

What did you do to deserve such a Hellish fate?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on August 09, 2016, 01:12:01 PM
Yup:

http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=269.0

You & Heiwa are quite the double-act aintcha shill?

Like Laurel & Hardy except shit.

What a waste your life is...

What did you do to deserve such a Hellish fate?
Congratulations!  You've proven Heiwa has been peddling the same shit for years.  But we already knew that.  Proves nothing about me.  I was on that forum for years before he showed up.  Perhaps you don't know what "proof" means?

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 01:15:25 PM
I didn't read that.

Nobody will.

I just want to keep this thread at the top of the board because you hate it.

Because you know I am correct.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on August 09, 2016, 01:21:14 PM
I didn't read that.
Big surprise there.  You never read anything that goes against your predefined conclusions, do you?

Nobody will.
Prove it.  I'll bet you can't.

I just want to keep this thread at the top of the board because you hate it.
Why would I hate having the proof that you ignore evidence against you and the best you have is cherry-picking quotes?  I think that's hilarious! In fact I'm bumping this again just for the laughs.

Because you know I am correct.
Wrong.

Ever thought of suicide?

I bet you have...
Nope, never.  No reason to.  I have quite a nice life with a good job (that has absolutely nothing to do with posting online), awesome wife and kids.  Why would I ever think of that?  YOU brought it up though.  Are you ok?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 01:32:53 PM
Sorry I don't have time to waste reading your Lies.

But my reply will keep this thread at the top of the listings so...

Toodle-pip, Shill!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on August 09, 2016, 01:34:52 PM
Sorry I don't have time to waste reading your Lies.

But my reply will keep this thread at the top of the listings so...

Toodle-pip, Shill person I don't agree with!
No lies from me.  I'll bump it too!  Maybe we could ask a mod to have it pinned?  It is funny that you think I care.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 02:03:38 PM
'It's funny' alright.

Yeah; ask to get it pinned then...

Dickhead.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on August 09, 2016, 02:19:31 PM
It's your thread, seems like your responsibility.

Unless you can't handle responsibility, I suggest you ask a mod. I'm sure they are all your best friend after you send them hundreds of reports a day.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on August 09, 2016, 02:53:59 PM
Did that mean anything?

Nah.

Just banging pointlessly away at your shill keyboard like the shitty shill you are on your shitty shitty shill forum...

Toodle-pip markjo!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on August 09, 2016, 03:09:29 PM
I didn't read that.
Yes, I see that you don't read a lot of the "proof" that you link to.

Here's a hint.

Most of those links don't support your claims and are usually irrelevant to the discussion.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on September 12, 2016, 11:13:43 AM
I know what name you post under at Cluesforum, markjo.

See, unlike all you disinfo-shills, I am capable of learning.

Whereas you are banned from saying anything that is not on Wikipedia.

Sucks to be you.

Doesn't frenat the prissy bitchslapping gaylord shill claim to be an ex-'battle-planner' or some shit?

In which case maybe he used this:

http://slideplayer.com/slide/6553897/

lol.

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Wadda loser...

Let's see how long it takes the mincing little creep to respond to this...

Two minutes is his usual response time, but maybe he'll use a sock-ID to spin it out; who knows?

Or cares?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: sokarul on September 12, 2016, 11:23:44 AM
Go away. Everyone hates you.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 12, 2016, 11:24:24 AM
Who let him back in here?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on September 12, 2016, 11:27:59 AM
I know what name you post under at Cluesforum, markjo.
Ah, he posts at the clueless forum.  That explains a lot.

See, unlike all you disinfo-shills, I am capable of learning.
Apparently not.


Doesn't frenat the prissy bitchslapping gaylord shill claim to be an ex-'battle-planner' or some shit?
Somebody is projecting.


In which case maybe he used this:

http://slideplayer.com/slide/6553897/

lol.
Nope, never seen it before.

Is it possible for reflective particles sprayed from a plane to enhance troposcatterSure.

Wadda loser...
and you STILL are cherry-picking quotes.  How sad that is all you have.

Let's see how long it takes the mincing little creep to respond to this...
And Papa Legba proves he still doesn't understand how forums work

Two minutes is his usual response time, but maybe he'll use a sock-ID to spin it out; who knows?

Or cares?
Still no socks here or anywhere else.  Projecting again?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 12, 2016, 11:30:29 AM
I'm wearing socks right now... Wait. Does that make me... one of them...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: palmerito0 on September 12, 2016, 12:04:16 PM
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Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on September 12, 2016, 12:12:57 PM
Yeah; went with the sock-puppet onslaught, like I thought.

Funny how you & Heiwa are both ex-military ain't it, frenat the prisssy gaylord shill?

Lotsa ex-military on this forum as a matter of fact...

Especially ex-military comms spooks.

All completely normal, totally legit, etc...

Lol no it's not:



You thieving lying bastards!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on September 12, 2016, 12:22:43 PM
Yeah; went with the sock-puppet onslaught, like I thought.
Still have no socks here or anywhere else. If you can prove otherwise then do so but I know you can't.

Funny how you & Heiwa are both ex-military ain't it, frenat the prisssy gaylord shill person I don't agree with so I have to resort to name calling like a 5 year old?
I wouldn't know.  I doubt everything Heiwa says as he is a proven pathological liar.

Lotsa ex-military on this forum as a matter of fact...

Especially ex-military comms spooks.
Again I wouldn't know as that was not my job and I'm no longer in.  Got anything on topic or are you just going to continue with the rant because you don't have any facts to back up your position?
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on September 12, 2016, 12:35:53 PM
Yep, you got nothing to say have you, mincing prancing disinfo-thing?

Your employers have stolen $6.5 trillion but that's okay by you.

Juuuuuust fine!

You ignored this completely too:

http://slideplayer.com/slide/6553897/

Just put your fingers in your ears & went 'NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH!!!'

LOL!!!

What a failure you are...

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: hoppy on September 12, 2016, 12:41:29 PM
Hey Papa, welcome back!!
 It's nice to have voice with some sanity on here.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: frenat on September 12, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
Yep, you got nothing to say have you, mincing prancing disinfo-thing person I disagree with?

Your employers have stolen $6.5 trillion but that's okay by you.

Juuuuuust fine!
Not my employers so just more of your unrelated rant. Prove otherwise.  Bet you can't.

You ignored this completely too:

http://slideplayer.com/slide/6553897/

Just put your fingers in your ears & went 'NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH!!!'

LOL!!!
Nope, I said I've never seen it before.  Care to summarize what you think it means and why it would be relevant to the thread?

What a failure you are...
You're projecting again.

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: markjo on September 12, 2016, 03:48:15 PM
I know what name you post under at Cluesforum, markjo.
Do tell.  It would be news to me.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 12, 2016, 04:39:23 PM
oh. I hope he doesn't figure out who my 16 alts on this site are.

oops. shouldn't have said that. If only there was a way to edit posts...
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Papa Legba on September 12, 2016, 10:17:17 PM
So prancing mincing bitchslapping gaylord frenat has never seen a document pertaining to the job he claimed to have before?

Yet more evidence he is a shill.

How many lying scumbags could you buy with $6.5 trillion I wonder?

I suggest you could buy a lot.

You could buy many things in fact...

Like, say, a fleet of tanker planes fitted out to spray aerosolised reflective particles into the atmosphere in order to enhance troposcatter.

Cos you'd need that, seeing as how satellites don't exist.

Anyhoo; being ex-US military, you & markjo are both affiliates of the biggest criminal organisation in the world.

So it is entirely correct & logical for me to act upon the assumption that you are only here for criminal purposes.

Now, let us look at a pdf of how the US military sets up PSYOPS in hostile territory, so as better to understand what your filthy little game is:

http://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/psyopplan.pdf

Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: disputeone on September 12, 2016, 10:48:41 PM
I'm back baby.

We missed you Papa.
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.
Post by: Bom Tishop on September 12, 2016, 11:10:28 PM
I'm back baby.

We missed you Papa.

With a fury!!!

Ever held a dog on a chain for a while then just let it go unexpectedly? Takes off faster than it ever has before, jumping, biting, slobbering and gnashing at anything that moves or could move. In a state of confusion, rage and euphoric sexual arousal....

Welcome back!
Title: Re: Tinfoil Hat Chemtrails.