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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 03:47:02 PM

Title: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 03:47:02 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 05, 2015, 04:01:14 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)

As far as i have seen, this topic is like a dead horse that gets poked from time to time to see if the horse is still alive.
What i am trying to say is that pretty much all FE'ers have no explanation as to what is going on in Antarctica.

Fun Fact: More than 35000 tourists visit Antarctica each year.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 05, 2015, 04:03:37 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)

They don't really debate the existence of what we call Antarctica. It's just that their image of it is pretty weird. Just try to ask a flat earther how midnight sun is possible there. His reaction will be either hilarious or cringe worthy. Or both.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 04:06:13 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)

Show me one commercial flight that goes to Antarctica.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 05, 2015, 04:17:28 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)

Show me one commercial flight that goes to Antarctica.

That's Google's job.

Now there are some commercial flights that land on Antarctica, and there are many sight seeing flights, but the most common way to go there is with a ship. As someone else said, over 35000 tourists visit it every year.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
Of course it's easier to reach by ship, the ice wall encircles all other continents.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 05, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)

Show me one commercial flight that goes to Antarctica.

That's Google's job.

Now there are some commercial flights that land on Antarctica, and there are many sight seeing flights, but the most common way to go there is with a ship. As someone else said, over 35000 tourists visit it every year.

Nobody said you can't go to the Rim Continent.  And, going there does not prove its shape.  Nice try with your ad populum and ad numerum tactics, though.  Do you have any more fallacies that you can try to distract, derail, and deceive us with?  Surely, spouting "35000 tourists" over and over is not the only thing they taught you at shill school, right? 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Master_Evar on September 05, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
Of course it's easier to reach by ship, the ice wall encircles all other continents.

Generally, it's easier to cross massive ice walls by flying over them than trying to cross it in a ship.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: XaeXae on September 05, 2015, 04:30:25 PM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 05, 2015, 04:32:32 PM
Who said you can't see "the ice wall?"  Maybe you just need to quit before you make your side look even more foolish than they already do. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 05, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
Of course it's easier to reach by ship, the ice wall encircles all other continents.

Say what?

I think you meant to say that it encircles the earth, rather than all individual continents.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
Of course it's easier to reach by ship, the ice wall encircles all other continents.

Generally, it's easier to cross massive ice walls by flying over them than trying to cross it in a ship.

I never said that it wasn't easier to cross by plane, I was speaking of getting there. I have never seen an advertised commercial flight to Antarctica. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 05, 2015, 04:40:59 PM
Who said you can't see "the ice wall?"  Maybe you just need to quit before you make your side look even more foolish than they already do.

So you are claiming that everyone that has gone to Antarctica can see the ice wall? And everybody that was there has not said anything about it? Never ever?

Looks like some Men In Black stuff.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 04:48:11 PM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)

Try using Google if you love it so damn much.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 05, 2015, 05:04:50 PM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 05:20:07 PM
Of course it's easier to reach by ship, the ice wall encircles all other continents.

Generally, it's easier to cross massive ice walls by flying over them than trying to cross it in a ship.

I never said that it wasn't easier to cross by plane, I was speaking of getting there. I have never seen an advertised commercial flight to Antarctica.

You've never seen an advertised commercial flight to Antarctica for the simple reason that you've never looked for one.

Lo and behold, the following link, which was found by using the internet (google search 'sight seeing flights to Antarctica')
shows one of many commercial sight seeing companies (Qantas) offering scenic flights to Antarctica. There are of course many, many others if you would only look. But of course it's this sort of thing that FEer's hate to see because it completely destroys their theory, ie 24 hour Antarctic sun.

http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/ (http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/)

Air New Zealand also used to operate scenic flights to Antarctica, but these were discontinued in 1979, after one of the flights crashed into Mt Erebus during white-out conditions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_New_Zealand_Flight_901 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_New_Zealand_Flight_901)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 05:30:24 PM
Of course it's easier to reach by ship, the ice wall encircles all other continents.

Generally, it's easier to cross massive ice walls by flying over them than trying to cross it in a ship.

I never said that it wasn't easier to cross by plane, I was speaking of getting there. I have never seen an advertised commercial flight to Antarctica.

You've never seen an advertised commercial flight to Antarctica for the simple reason that you've looked for one.

Lo and behold, the following link, which was found by using the internet (google search 'sight seeing flights to Antarctica')
shows one of many commercial sight seeing companies offering scenic flights to Antarctica. There are of course many, many others if you would only look. But of course it's this sort of thing that FEer's hate to see because it completely destroys their theory, ie 24 hour Antarctic sun.

http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/ (http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/)

These flights don't go to Antarctica, they fly around the wall and go home.

Read the FAQs:

   Will The Flight Land?
We do not land on Antarctica, primarily for environmental and safety reasons. Antarctica is as close to a pristine environment as there is on Earth. The activity of Antarctica Sightseeing Flights has been approved by all Antarctic Treaty nations. Most importantly, you cannot see the spectacular views available from the aircraft when you are on the ground.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 05, 2015, 05:38:15 PM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"

Ok then, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that surrounds the worlds oceans.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 05, 2015, 05:41:59 PM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"

Ok then, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that surrounds the worlds oceans.

You do know what an ice shelf is, right?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 05, 2015, 05:51:28 PM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"

Ok then, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that surrounds the worlds oceans.

Wrong, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that makes up part of the Antarctic continent. Do you know why it's called a continent? Because there is actually land underneath the Antarctic ice, and this is visible in many places along the Antarctic coastline. Mt Erebus is an active volcano located in Antarctica, something which you wouldn't expect to find in a place that FEer's think is only made of ice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Erebus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Erebus)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: JerkFace on September 05, 2015, 07:25:39 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)

Show me one commercial flight that goes to Antarctica.

Here is an expedition tp the South Pole you personally can go on, if you are physically fit,   http://www.ousland.no/trips/south-pole-last-degree/#tab_1 (http://www.ousland.no/trips/south-pole-last-degree/#tab_1)    They use light aircraft equipped with skis to take you close to the pole, and then you get to trek the last degree to the Amundsen Scott station before flying out.    Cost  is a very reasonable  $US58,000
 
Actually,  here's a better one,  you can fly all the way,  none of this skiing stuff.   http://polarexplorers.com/expeditions/south-pole/south-pole-flights (http://polarexplorers.com/expeditions/south-pole/south-pole-flights)   

PS..  If you decide to take the trip, make sure to snap a few pictures of the edge for us.   ;)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 05, 2015, 08:10:44 PM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"

Ok then, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that surrounds the worlds oceans.

You do know what an ice shelf is, right?

It looks like a wall of ice to me.  Perhaps you expected it to be made of ice bricks or something?  ::)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 06, 2015, 01:24:35 AM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"

Ok then, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that surrounds the worlds oceans.

You do know what an ice shelf is, right?

It looks like a wall of ice to me.  Perhaps you expected it to be made of ice bricks or something?  ::)

So, based on 1 picture showing part of an ice shelf (not an ice wall) you automatically extrapolate this to form an opinion that the rest of the entire coastline of Antarctica is like this as well?  Really, how can you make this assumption?

The following link shows a section of coastline along New Zealand's North Island west coast. I suppose you would quite happily state that based on this one picture, you would therefore be happy to assume that ALL of New Zealand's coastline looked exactly the same?

http://www.stokedforsaturday.com/2015/03/sandboarding-along-90-mile-beach/ (http://www.stokedforsaturday.com/2015/03/sandboarding-along-90-mile-beach/)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 01:39:21 AM
Boy, it really is weird that so many tourists go to Antarctica every year, yet there isn't a single whistle-blower who says that there is no midnight sun there >:)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 06, 2015, 01:58:17 AM
Boy, it really is weird that so many tourists go to Antarctica every year, yet there isn't a single whistle-blower who says that there is no midnight sun there >:)

Why would it be a surprise that nobody has blown the whistle yet?  After all, each and every one of these tourists has been paid off by the nasty, evil, Satan worshipping NASA masonites. Yep, each of these tourists has been paid a handsome sum of money to keep quiet. Instant millionaires - show me where to sign up for one of these trips so I can retire rich.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: XaeXae on September 06, 2015, 02:56:49 AM
Boy, it really is weird that so many tourists go to Antarctica every year, yet there isn't a single whistle-blower who says that there is no midnight sun there >:)

Why would it be a surprise that nobody has blown the whistle yet?  After all, each and every one of these tourists has been paid off by the nasty, evil, Satan worshipping NASA masonites. Yep, each of these tourists has been paid a handsome sum of money to keep quiet. Instant millionaires - show me where to sign up for one of these trips so I can retire rich.

Here : http://www.ousland.no/trips/south-pole-last-degree/#tab_1 (http://www.ousland.no/trips/south-pole-last-degree/#tab_1)

If the NASA tried to hide all of this Antartica stuff, why do flights are still avaliable ? ::)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 03:00:14 AM
Boy, it really is weird that so many tourists go to Antarctica every year, yet there isn't a single whistle-blower who says that there is no midnight sun there >:)

Why would it be a surprise that nobody has blown the whistle yet?  After all, each and every one of these tourists has been paid off by the nasty, evil, Satan worshipping NASA masonites. Yep, each of these tourists has been paid a handsome sum of money to keep quiet. Instant millionaires - show me where to sign up for one of these trips so I can retire rich.

Yeah, it really is the journey of a lifetime!
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 03:00:28 AM
Boy, it really is weird that so many tourists go to Antarctica every year, yet there isn't a single whistle-blower who says that there is no midnight sun there >:)

Why would it be a surprise that nobody has blown the whistle yet?  After all, each and every one of these tourists has been paid off by the nasty, evil, Satan worshipping NASA masonites. Yep, each of these tourists has been paid a handsome sum of money to keep quiet. Instant millionaires - show me where to sign up for one of these trips so I can retire rich.

Flying along the coast for a couple of hours does make the tourists experts on the shape of the continent.  It just means that they saw some neat looking icy terrain.  What is there for them to blow a whistle about? 

So, based on 1 picture showing part of an ice shelf (not an ice wall) you automatically extrapolate this to form an opinion that the rest of the entire coastline of Antarctica is like this as well?  Really, how can you make this assumption?

The following link shows a section of coastline along New Zealand's North Island west coast. I suppose you would quite happily state that based on this one picture, you would therefore be happy to assume that ALL of New Zealand's coastline looked exactly the same?

http://www.stokedforsaturday.com/2015/03/sandboarding-along-90-mile-beach/ (http://www.stokedforsaturday.com/2015/03/sandboarding-along-90-mile-beach/)

No flat Earther has claimed that Antarctica is just a wall of ice.  Some of the early explorers to view the ice continent reported that they encountered a wall of ice.  Roundies are the ones who took this to mean that there is a literal wall made out of ice.  Flat Earthers generally agree that Antarctica is a continent topped with ice and snow.  We simply do not agree with the shape that the NASholes say it is. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 03:10:44 AM
Boy, it really is weird that so many tourists go to Antarctica every year, yet there isn't a single whistle-blower who says that there is no midnight sun there >:)

Why would it be a surprise that nobody has blown the whistle yet?  After all, each and every one of these tourists has been paid off by the nasty, evil, Satan worshipping NASA masonites. Yep, each of these tourists has been paid a handsome sum of money to keep quiet. Instant millionaires - show me where to sign up for one of these trips so I can retire rich.

Flying along the coast for a couple of hours does make the tourists experts on the shape of the continent.  It just means that they saw some neat looking icy terrain.  What is there for them to blow a whistle about? 

So, based on 1 picture showing part of an ice shelf (not an ice wall) you automatically extrapolate this to form an opinion that the rest of the entire coastline of Antarctica is like this as well?  Really, how can you make this assumption?

The following link shows a section of coastline along New Zealand's North Island west coast. I suppose you would quite happily state that based on this one picture, you would therefore be happy to assume that ALL of New Zealand's coastline looked exactly the same?

http://www.stokedforsaturday.com/2015/03/sandboarding-along-90-mile-beach/ (http://www.stokedforsaturday.com/2015/03/sandboarding-along-90-mile-beach/)

No flat Earther has claimed that Antarctica is just a wall of ice.  Some of the early explorers to view the ice continent reported that they encountered a wall of ice.  Roundies are the ones who took this to mean that there is a literal wall made out of ice.  Flat Earthers generally agree that Antarctica is a continent topped with ice and snow.  We simply do not agree with the shape that the NASholes say it is.

You do realize that thousands of tourists go there on cruise ships and expeditions that last more than a week, right? I'm not talking about the shape, I'm talking about the midnight sun.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 06, 2015, 03:29:29 AM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"

Ok then, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that surrounds the worlds oceans.

You do know what an ice shelf is, right?

It looks like a wall of ice to me.  Perhaps you expected it to be made of ice bricks or something?  ::)

So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: tappet on September 06, 2015, 03:52:00 AM


(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)

Cool picture. Must be like this in the Arctic as well, is it?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 06, 2015, 05:36:10 AM
I've got two new questions :

If we can fly to Antartica, why no one is able to see the Ice Wall during the flight ?

And why can't the FE'ers tell us what is after Antartica ?

(http://assets.climatecentral.org/images/made/9_12_14_Andrea_waterfalls_1050_722_s_c1_c_c.JPG)


Try using Google if you love it so damn much.

This picture depicts an ice shelf!

Here is the article it was used in: http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/global-warming-antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-18014)

It literally says: "An in-flight photo shows the edge of the Larsen B Ice Shelf"

Ok then, this picture shows a glimpse of the ice shelf that surrounds the worlds oceans.

You do know what an ice shelf is, right?

It looks like a wall of ice to me.  Perhaps you expected it to be made of ice bricks or something?  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 06:01:57 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 06:13:59 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it.

I'm still waiting for you to explain midnight sun in Antarctica.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 06:22:49 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it.

I'm still waiting for you to explain midnight sun in Antarctica.

Why should I have to explain something to you that you are proposing?  You are a very confused individual. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: XaeXae on September 06, 2015, 07:08:03 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it.

I'm still waiting for you to explain midnight sun in Antarctica.

Why should I have to explain something to you that you are proposing?  You are a very confused individual.

He gives you an observed fact and asks you to explain it with your model, where's the problem ?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 07:13:25 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it.

I'm still waiting for you to explain midnight sun in Antarctica.

Why should I have to explain something to you that you are proposing?  You are a very confused individual.

He gives you an observed fact and asks you to explain it with your model, where's the problem ?

And, I am still waiting to become convinced that a midnight sun in Antarctica is true.  Do you not see where the burden of proof lies? 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 07:14:26 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it.

I'm still waiting for you to explain midnight sun in Antarctica.

Why should I have to explain something to you that you are proposing?  You are a very confused individual.

It's not something that I am proposing, it's an observed fact. Oh wait. I forgot that flat earthers really like to cherry pick facts and throw away those that don't suit them.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 07:20:01 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it.

I'm still waiting for you to explain midnight sun in Antarctica.

Why should I have to explain something to you that you are proposing?  You are a very confused individual.

It's not something that I am proposing, it's an observed fact. Oh wait. I forgot that flat earthers really like to cherry pick facts and throw away those that don't suit them.

Well, then.  It should be real easy for you to prove.  It is odd that you do not even try to provide any evidence, yet we are just expected to take your word for whatever you say, right? 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 07:31:11 AM
So FE'ers don't know what an ice shelf is? Okay then let me explain.
An ice shelf is a big platform made out of ice floating in water.

So if that is the ice wall then how do the oceans not get drained?

It would surprise you to learn that all of that ice is attached to land that is higher than sea level, then.  ::)

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

chtwrone, I accidentally deleted your last post while trying to fix your quotes.  Sorry, but I don't think there is anyway for me to restore it.

I'm still waiting for you to explain midnight sun in Antarctica.

Why should I have to explain something to you that you are proposing?  You are a very confused individual.

It's not something that I am proposing, it's an observed fact. Oh wait. I forgot that flat earthers really like to cherry pick facts and throw away those that don't suit them.

Well, then.  It should be real easy for you to prove.  It is odd that you do not even try to provide any evidence, yet we are just expected to take your word for whatever you say, right?

Prove it? How can I prove it? There are plenty of videos on YouTube showing it like this one: (http://) and this one: , (http://,) but I know you are going to say they're fake or something. That's what you always do. It's also weird that of the 35,000 tourists that go there every year, not one has ever reported that it's a lie. Isn't that weird?

So, since this observed fact is, according to you, wrong, why don't you go to Antarctica and prove it? It will be a groundbreaking discovery.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 07:34:27 AM
lol, there are plenty of videos on youtube of videos that show ghosts and the chupacabra.  We are supposed to believe it because it is on youtube?  Is this what this Free Thinking site has degraded to?  A youtube fight? 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 08:25:17 AM
lol, there are plenty of videos on youtube of videos that show ghosts and the chupacabra.  We are supposed to believe it because it is on youtube?  Is this what this Free Thinking site has degraded to?  A youtube fight?

Then what about this: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/) ?

Just as I expected. Amateurs are lying and non amateurs are paid by the government. The fact that there is a midnight sun in Antarctica is well known and documented ever since people crossed the Antarctic circle, but it's a lie. The 35,000 tourists are paid by the government not to admit that there is no midnight sun. I

Is this what free thinking has degraded to? Saying that every single thing that doesn't agree with you is false?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 06, 2015, 08:38:01 AM
lol, there are plenty of videos on youtube of videos that show ghosts and the chupacabra.  We are supposed to believe it because it is on youtube?  Is this what this Free Thinking site has degraded to?  A youtube fight?

Then what about this: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/) ?

Just as I expected. Amateurs are lying and non amateurs are paid by the government. The fact that there is a midnight sun in Antarctica is well known and documented ever since people crossed the Antarctic circle, but it's a lie. The 35,000 tourists are paid by the government not to admit that there is no midnight sun. I

Is this what free thinking has degraded to? Saying that every single thing that doesn't agree with you is false?

Perhaps there is a reflective property unique to the land beyond the oceans, almost like a mirror. Regular snow is surely reflective enough.

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html (https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html)
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 06, 2015, 09:20:09 AM
lol, there are plenty of videos on youtube of videos that show ghosts and the chupacabra.  We are supposed to believe it because it is on youtube?  Is this what this Free Thinking site has degraded to?  A youtube fight?

Then what about this: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/) ?

Just as I expected. Amateurs are lying and non amateurs are paid by the government. The fact that there is a midnight sun in Antarctica is well known and documented ever since people crossed the Antarctic circle, but it's a lie. The 35,000 tourists are paid by the government not to admit that there is no midnight sun. I

Is this what free thinking has degraded to? Saying that every single thing that doesn't agree with you is false?

Perhaps there is a reflective property unique to the land beyond the oceans, almost like a mirror. Regular snow is surely reflective enough.

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html (https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html)

And how is this related to what Definitely Not Official just said?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 09:38:24 AM
lol, there are plenty of videos on youtube of videos that show ghosts and the chupacabra.  We are supposed to believe it because it is on youtube?  Is this what this Free Thinking site has degraded to?  A youtube fight?

Then what about this: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/) ?

Just as I expected. Amateurs are lying and non amateurs are paid by the government. The fact that there is a midnight sun in Antarctica is well known and documented ever since people crossed the Antarctic circle, but it's a lie. The 35,000 tourists are paid by the government not to admit that there is no midnight sun. I

Is this what free thinking has degraded to? Saying that every single thing that doesn't agree with you is false?

Perhaps there is a reflective property unique to the land beyond the oceans, almost like a mirror. Regular snow is surely reflective enough.

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html (https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html)

Today is 100 years after the publication of Einstein's theory of special relativity, and it isn't any less irrelevant with the subject than what you said.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
lol, there are plenty of videos on youtube of videos that show ghosts and the chupacabra.  We are supposed to believe it because it is on youtube?  Is this what this Free Thinking site has degraded to?  A youtube fight?

Then what about this: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/ (http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/30/travel/stunning-timelapse-antarctic/) ?

Just as I expected. Amateurs are lying and non amateurs are paid by the government. The fact that there is a midnight sun in Antarctica is well known and documented ever since people crossed the Antarctic circle, but it's a lie. The 35,000 tourists are paid by the government not to admit that there is no midnight sun. I

Is this what free thinking has degraded to? Saying that every single thing that doesn't agree with you is false?

Perhaps there is a reflective property unique to the land beyond the oceans, almost like a mirror. Regular snow is surely reflective enough.

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html (https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/snow/science/characteristics.html)

Today is 100 years after the publication of Einstein's theory of special relativity, and it isn't any less irrelevant with the subject than what you said.

Oh woops! I meant General relativity! Just wanted to note that before some FEer nit picks my comment.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 06, 2015, 11:34:53 AM
Oh I'm sorry, I have found a better link that more clearly expresses the concept I was referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage)

Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 01:00:18 PM
Oh I'm sorry, I have found a better link that more clearly expresses the concept I was referring to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage)

Mirages actually work against a flat earth, but that's another story. Now I don't really know why you think that would help. On the flat Earth map, 12 hours after the sun was directly over head, it would go to the opposite side of the Earth. If you ask me, I will agree that even from that distance, the sun would still be above the horizon. But the entire foundation of this flat earth model is based on the assumption that somehow it would be below the horizon at that distance.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 06, 2015, 01:49:53 PM

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?


You have admitted in other threads that explorers have gone further inland in Antarctica than the coast, and claimed that you had quotes from them stating they had seen an ice wall. After weeks of being pestered to supply these quotes, you blamed problems with your internet access and then fell silent on the subject. Now you're giving a contradictory suggestion that nobody has ever set foot in the place because that coastline has stopped them. If need be, I'm quite happy to place your self-contradicting posts in juxtaposition to each other on this thread, so we can all mock you.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 06, 2015, 01:54:55 PM

And, I am still waiting to become convinced that a midnight sun in Antarctica is true.  Do you not see where the burden of proof lies?

Oh yes, the good old "I haven't seen it, so all who say they have are lying" defence.
Here's some other things Jroa doesn't believe in because he has never seen them with his own eyes:

The entire country of Belize
Abraham Lincoln
Tom Bishop (the picture is clearly a poorly executed photoshop job)
Neptune
Elvis Presley
The Beatles
Russian submarines
Hitler's bunker
Aether - oh, hang on...
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 06, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
lol, there are plenty of videos on youtube of videos that show ghosts and the chupacabra.  We are supposed to believe it because it is on youtube?  Is this what this Free Thinking site has degraded to?  A youtube fight?

If it was proved/shown beyond all doubt, that the phenomenon of 24 hour sun in the Antarctic was in fact correct and real, would this pose a serious problem to the FE model, yes or no?  If no, please explain?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 02:33:30 PM

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?


You have admitted in other threads that explorers have gone further inland in Antarctica than the coast, and claimed that you had quotes from them stating they had seen an ice wall. After weeks of being pestered to supply these quotes, you blamed problems with your internet access and then fell silent on the subject. Now you're giving a contradictory suggestion that nobody has ever set foot in the place because that coastline has stopped them. If need be, I'm quite happy to place your self-contradicting posts in juxtaposition to each other on this thread, so we can all mock you.

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  I don't know why you always seem so mad, but you might want to do something about that before you have a heart attack or stroke or something. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 06, 2015, 02:56:01 PM

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?


You have admitted in other threads that explorers have gone further inland in Antarctica than the coast, and claimed that you had quotes from them stating they had seen an ice wall. After weeks of being pestered to supply these quotes, you blamed problems with your internet access and then fell silent on the subject. Now you're giving a contradictory suggestion that nobody has ever set foot in the place because that coastline has stopped them. If need be, I'm quite happy to place your self-contradicting posts in juxtaposition to each other on this thread, so we can all mock you.

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  I don't know why you always seem so mad, but you might want to do something about that before you have a heart attack or stroke or something.

Slightly off topic, but I'm not having any success in attaching a photo/picture/image to my posts. I always end up with a
fakepath/image.jpg?
 Any assistance would be appreciated.

Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Googleotomy on September 06, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
One of the problems IMHO with the flat earth ideas about Antarctica is their continual denial of the map of Antarctica and aerial and satellite views of Antarctica. Antarctica has been explored, mapped and charted long before the advent of high altitude aerial photography and satellite photography. And there is definitely no continuous "ice ring" around Antarctica , which is definitely a continent. There are only several ice shelfs and they  are not continuous. This seems to be just one more case of flat earth denial of reality.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Master_Evar on September 06, 2015, 03:20:12 PM

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?


You have admitted in other threads that explorers have gone further inland in Antarctica than the coast, and claimed that you had quotes from them stating they had seen an ice wall. After weeks of being pestered to supply these quotes, you blamed problems with your internet access and then fell silent on the subject. Now you're giving a contradictory suggestion that nobody has ever set foot in the place because that coastline has stopped them. If need be, I'm quite happy to place your self-contradicting posts in juxtaposition to each other on this thread, so we can all mock you.

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  I don't know why you always seem so mad, but you might want to do something about that before you have a heart attack or stroke or something.

Slightly off topic, but I'm not having any success in attaching a photo/picture/image to my posts. I always end up with a
fakepath/image.jpg?
 Any assistance would be appreciated.

Google for "image upload", upload the image to the internet and use the pic's web adress to share it on te forum.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 06, 2015, 03:22:37 PM
One of the problems IMHO with the flat earth ideas about Antarctica is their continual denial of the map of Antarctica and aerial and satellite views of Antarctica. Antarctica has been explored, mapped and charted long before the advent of high altitude aerial photography and satellite photography. And there is definitely no continuous "ice ring" around Antarctica , which is definitely a continent. There are only several ice shelfs and they  are not continuous. This seems to be just one more case of flat earth denial of reality.

They also fail to realize that we have good evidence that the continent below Antarctica used to be in the tropics.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 06, 2015, 04:48:43 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)

Without conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is in fact not scientific : it only consists at throwing away all contradicting arguments that cannot immediately be percieved, by telling it's only a conspiracy. If you have proofs that it is a conspiracy, we can trust you. But not if you only come and use the conspiracy argument. No.

Oh, and this station (like many others) has an airport : it can in fact be reached, and several flights go to Antartica each day : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_F._Paulus_Skiway)
http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP (http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=AY06454&sch=NZSP)

Just be careful of your spelling, especially topic headings.

Antarctica, not Antartica.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 06, 2015, 05:31:04 PM

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?


You have admitted in other threads that explorers have gone further inland in Antarctica than the coast, and claimed that you had quotes from them stating they had seen an ice wall. After weeks of being pestered to supply these quotes, you blamed problems with your internet access and then fell silent on the subject. Now you're giving a contradictory suggestion that nobody has ever set foot in the place because that coastline has stopped them. If need be, I'm quite happy to place your self-contradicting posts in juxtaposition to each other on this thread, so we can all mock you.

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  I don't know why you always seem so mad, but you might want to do something about that before you have a heart attack or stroke or something.

Slightly off topic, but I'm not having any success in attaching a photo/picture/image to my posts. I always end up with a
fakepath/image.jpg?
 Any assistance would be appreciated.



The best way is to download the image, then upload it to an image hosting site, such as photo bucket.  Then, copy the image's address and put it in (img)address(/img), replacing the ( with [.

Another way is to simply right click the image and select "copy image url" or whatever the equivalent is on your browser.  Then, post the link the same way I described above.   

Hope this helps. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 06, 2015, 05:42:47 PM

Still waiting for you to provide the promised quotes from the explorers who have ventured farthest south of having their way forward blocked by an ice wall...

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?


You have admitted in other threads that explorers have gone further inland in Antarctica than the coast, and claimed that you had quotes from them stating they had seen an ice wall. After weeks of being pestered to supply these quotes, you blamed problems with your internet access and then fell silent on the subject. Now you're giving a contradictory suggestion that nobody has ever set foot in the place because that coastline has stopped them. If need be, I'm quite happy to place your self-contradicting posts in juxtaposition to each other on this thread, so we can all mock you.

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  I don't know why you always seem so mad, but you might want to do something about that before you have a heart attack or stroke or something.

Slightly off topic, but I'm not having any success in attaching a photo/picture/image to my posts. I always end up with a
fakepath/image.jpg?
 Any assistance would be appreciated.



The best way is to download the image, then upload it to an image hosting site, such as photo bucket.  Then, copy the image's address and put it in (img)address(/img), replacing the ( with [.

Another way is to simply right click the image and select "copy image url" or whatever the equivalent is on your browser.  Then, post the link the same way I described above.   

Hope this helps.

Thanks, much appreciated.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on September 08, 2015, 04:07:37 PM

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.

It's always refreshing when I can dig up contradictions from not only the same thread, but the same page within a thread.
It's quite obvious that this quote:

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

...is clearly meant to imply that the "ice wall" shown in the picture would stop anyone trying to explore past it.

Now, you will attempt to point out that technically you didn't make a claim that it would stop anyone - just asked a question. And technically you'd be correct. However, if this was a court of law, it'd be ruled that you had led people to believe that was your intent - just as someone who sold a can of fizzy drink called "Colke" in a red and white can with a curly font could be successfully sued by Coca Cola, even though technically their design was different.
Any defence you mount which relies on your phrasing of the question would utterly fail the "moron in a hurry" test. It'd be ruled deliberate misleading.
That's good enough for me.

Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Serulian on September 08, 2015, 04:39:25 PM
That section of ice wall would inconvenience anyone, but might not stop them completely. I'm sure there are plenty of places around the world where the wall might be very easy to cross. If a penguin can get back on shore after a swim how hard could it be?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Charming Anarchist on September 08, 2015, 06:41:16 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)
Easy:  global warming does not apply to Antarctica. 

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Because snow gradually settles over time under its own weight, the foundations of the building were designed to accommodate substantial differential settling over any one wing in any one line or any one column. If differential settling continues, the supported structure will need to be jacked up and re-leveled. The facility was designed with the primary support columns outboard of the exterior walls so that the entire building can be jacked up a full story. During this process, a new section of column will be added over the existing columns then the jacks pull the building up to the higher elevation.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Pezevenk on September 09, 2015, 01:17:42 AM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)
Easy:  global warming does not apply to Antarctica. 

Quote
Because snow gradually settles over time under its own weight, the foundations of the building were designed to accommodate substantial differential settling over any one wing in any one line or any one column. If differential settling continues, the supported structure will need to be jacked up and re-leveled. The facility was designed with the primary support columns outboard of the exterior walls so that the entire building can be jacked up a full story. During this process, a new section of column will be added over the existing columns then the jacks pull the building up to the higher elevation.

I'm sorry, what is this supposed to prove? XaeXae didn't say anything about global warming.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 09, 2015, 03:54:14 AM

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.

It's always refreshing when I can dig up contradictions from not only the same thread, but the same page within a thread.
It's quite obvious that this quote:

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

...is clearly meant to imply that the "ice wall" shown in the picture would stop anyone trying to explore past it.

Now, you will attempt to point out that technically you didn't make a claim that it would stop anyone - just asked a question. And technically you'd be correct. However, if this was a court of law, it'd be ruled that you had led people to believe that was your intent - just as someone who sold a can of fizzy drink called "Colke" in a red and white can with a curly font could be successfully sued by Coca Cola, even though technically their design was different.
Any defence you mount which relies on your phrasing of the question would utterly fail the "moron in a hurry" test. It'd be ruled deliberate misleading.
That's good enough for me.



You seem to have trouble separating the act of sailing from setting foot on something.  I know you get confused a lot, so I won't hold it against you. 
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 05:48:50 AM

lol, I never said that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.  In fact, I say the opposite of that all the time.  Please, do a search and post a link of me saying that nobody has set foot on Antarctica.

It's always refreshing when I can dig up contradictions from not only the same thread, but the same page within a thread.
It's quite obvious that this quote:

If you were traveling south and came up against what is posted in that picture, would you be stopped?

...is clearly meant to imply that the "ice wall" shown in the picture would stop anyone trying to explore past it.

Now, you will attempt to point out that technically you didn't make a claim that it would stop anyone - just asked a question. And technically you'd be correct. However, if this was a court of law, it'd be ruled that you had led people to believe that was your intent - just as someone who sold a can of fizzy drink called "Colke" in a red and white can with a curly font could be successfully sued by Coca Cola, even though technically their design was different.
Any defence you mount which relies on your phrasing of the question would utterly fail the "moron in a hurry" test. It'd be ruled deliberate misleading.
That's good enough for me.



You seem to have trouble separating the act of sailing from setting foot on something.  I know you get confused a lot, so I won't hold it against you.

There must be thousands of people worldwide, who are now actively involved in the flat earth movement. One would imagine that at least one of these many thousands has been to Antarctica on one of the many cruise ships that visits each summer. Surely they must have reported their findings by now to confirm that the 24 hour summer sun is a blatant lie?  To expose the myth of the Antarctic 24 hour sun must be right at the top of the flat earth movement's list of round earth lies that need to be exposed?

To confirm that the 24 hour Antarctic sun is in fact a myth, would be a huge blow to the round earth movement, so surely the flat earth society hierarchy will be sending a representative this summer. But it is indeed puzzling why this hasn't already happened?  Unless of course, a member of the flat earth society hierarchy has actually already visited during the Antarctic summer, and witnessed something that they would rather keep to themselves?
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: Flopsinator on September 09, 2015, 07:09:05 AM
That section of ice wall would inconvenience anyone, but might not stop them completely. I'm sure there are plenty of places around the world where the wall might be very easy to cross. If a penguin can get back on shore after a swim how hard could it be?

First of all, the picture you had was misleading. Because that is definitely not the ice wall.

And the second thing, what keeps us from just flying over the ice wall With a plane or helicopter?
Title: trolling
Post by: Charming Anarchist on September 09, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)
Easy:  global warming does not apply to Antarctica. 

Quote
Because snow gradually settles over time under its own weight, the foundations of the building were designed to accommodate substantial differential settling over any one wing in any one line or any one column. If differential settling continues, the supported structure will need to be jacked up and re-leveled. The facility was designed with the primary support columns outboard of the exterior walls so that the entire building can be jacked up a full story. During this process, a new section of column will be added over the existing columns then the jacks pull the building up to the higher elevation.
I'm sorry, what is this supposed to prove?
I had no intention of proving anything.  The OP asked for an explanation of a wikigurgia link. 
Do not apologize but since you asked, it proves the OP and you are trolls. 


XaeXae didn't say anything about global warming.
YaYa did not say much of anything about anything.  The OP has no focus and is obviously trolling. 
Title: Re: trolling
Post by: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 03:38:03 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)
Easy:  global warming does not apply to Antarctica. 

Quote
Because snow gradually settles over time under its own weight, the foundations of the building were designed to accommodate substantial differential settling over any one wing in any one line or any one column. If differential settling continues, the supported structure will need to be jacked up and re-leveled. The facility was designed with the primary support columns outboard of the exterior walls so that the entire building can be jacked up a full story. During this process, a new section of column will be added over the existing columns then the jacks pull the building up to the higher elevation.
I'm sorry, what is this supposed to prove?
I had no intention of proving anything.  The OP asked for an explanation of a wikigurgia link. 
Do not apologize but since you asked, it proves the OP and you are trolls. 


XaeXae didn't say anything about global warming.
YaYa did not say much of anything about anything.  The OP has no focus and is obviously trolling.

There must be thousands of people worldwide, who are now actively involved in the flat earth movement. One would imagine that at least one of these many thousands has been to Antarctica on one of the many cruise ships that visits each summer. Surely they must have reported their findings by now to confirm that the 24 hour summer sun is a blatant lie?  To expose the myth of the Antarctic 24 hour sun must be right at the top of the flat earth movement's list of round earth lies that need to be exposed?

To confirm that the 24 hour Antarctic sun is in fact a myth, would be a huge blow to the round earth movement, so surely the flat earth society hierarchy will be sending a representative this summer. But it is indeed puzzling why this hasn't already happened?  Unless of course, a member of the flat earth society hierarchy has actually already visited during the Antarctic summer, and witnessed something that they would rather keep to themselves?
Title: Re: trolling
Post by: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 03:56:03 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)
Easy:  global warming does not apply to Antarctica. 

Quote
Because snow gradually settles over time under its own weight, the foundations of the building were designed to accommodate substantial differential settling over any one wing in any one line or any one column. If differential settling continues, the supported structure will need to be jacked up and re-leveled. The facility was designed with the primary support columns outboard of the exterior walls so that the entire building can be jacked up a full story. During this process, a new section of column will be added over the existing columns then the jacks pull the building up to the higher elevation.
I'm sorry, what is this supposed to prove?
I had no intention of proving anything.  The OP asked for an explanation of a wikigurgia link. 
Do not apologize but since you asked, it proves the OP and you are trolls. 


XaeXae didn't say anything about global warming.
YaYa did not say much of anything about anything.  The OP has no focus and is obviously trolling.


Antarctic sun at 2.47am at the South Pole - another nail in the FE coffin.


(http://www.polartrec.com/files/members/casey-ohara/images/img9682.jpg)

Title: Re: trolling
Post by: Serulian on September 09, 2015, 07:40:35 PM

Antarctic sun at 2.47am at the South Pole - another nail in the FE coffin.


Great Nail...

Because it would be impossible to set a Timex to the wrong time.
Title: Re: If South Pole doesn't exist and Antartica can't be reached
Post by: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 08:04:51 PM
That section of ice wall would inconvenience anyone, but might not stop them completely. I'm sure there are plenty of places around the world where the wall might be very easy to cross. If a penguin can get back on shore after a swim how hard could it be?

You're catching on now Serulian, your comment concerning the 'round world' is certainly spot on - but why did it take you so long to realise that the earth is not flat?
Title: Re: trolling
Post by: chtwrone on September 09, 2015, 08:15:40 PM

Antarctic sun at 2.47am at the South Pole - another nail in the FE coffin.


Great Nail...

Because it would be impossible to set a Timex to the wrong time.

Of course it would be possible to set the watch to the wrong time, but why would this be required, when there is ALWAYS 24 hour sun at the south pole during the Antarctic summer?

There is no need to fake something that has been observed and documented for over a hundred years now.  Flat earth fools such as yourself hate pictures like this, because it completely destroys your pathetic flat earth model.

There are thousands of tourists who go to Antarctica on cruise ships each summer and witness the 24 hour sun for themselves - link provided to just one of the many cruise ship companies, that provide trips each summer.
http://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica (http://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica)

 I have NEVER seen anything in the media from even one of these thousands of  tourists who have called into question the 24 hour Antarctic sun.  Do you know why there has never been one person to call this phenomenon a lie?  For the simple reason that the Antarctic 24 hour sun is EXACTLY the same as the 24 hour Arctic sun, due to the FACT that the earth is a sphere who's rotational axis is inclined at 23.4 degrees to the sun.

24 HOUR ANTARCTIC SUMMER SUN IS AN EXTENSIVELY WELL DOCUMENTED AND OBSERVED PHENOMENON - FACT.
Title: Re: trolling
Post by: XaeXae on September 10, 2015, 02:15:32 AM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)
Easy:  global warming does not apply to Antarctica. 

Quote
Because snow gradually settles over time under its own weight, the foundations of the building were designed to accommodate substantial differential settling over any one wing in any one line or any one column. If differential settling continues, the supported structure will need to be jacked up and re-leveled. The facility was designed with the primary support columns outboard of the exterior walls so that the entire building can be jacked up a full story. During this process, a new section of column will be added over the existing columns then the jacks pull the building up to the higher elevation.
I'm sorry, what is this supposed to prove?
I had no intention of proving anything.  The OP asked for an explanation of a wikigurgia link. 
Do not apologize but since you asked, it proves the OP and you are trolls. 


XaeXae didn't say anything about global warming.
YaYa did not say much of anything about anything.  The OP has no focus and is obviously trolling.

I just wanted you to explain me how they could put a base on the South Pole, if there is no South Pole... ::)

Not trolling, just asking  ;)
Title: Re: trolling
Post by: Swiftly Tilting Planet on September 16, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
Explain me this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amundsen%E2%80%93Scott_South_Pole_Station)
Easy:  global warming does not apply to Antarctica. 

Quote
Because snow gradually settles over time under its own weight, the foundations of the building were designed to accommodate substantial differential settling over any one wing in any one line or any one column. If differential settling continues, the supported structure will need to be jacked up and re-leveled. The facility was designed with the primary support columns outboard of the exterior walls so that the entire building can be jacked up a full story. During this process, a new section of column will be added over the existing columns then the jacks pull the building up to the higher elevation.
I'm sorry, what is this supposed to prove?
I had no intention of proving anything.  The OP asked for an explanation of a wikigurgia link. 
Do not apologize but since you asked, it proves the OP and you are trolls. 


XaeXae didn't say anything about global warming.
YaYa did not say much of anything about anything.  The OP has no focus and is obviously trolling.

I just wanted you to explain me how they could put a base on the South Pole, if there is no South Pole... ::)

Not trolling, just asking  ;)

Well *clearly* it's a fake base *near* the Ice Wall that the secret United Nations Freemason Illuminati NASA scientists probe the outer dome of the Firmament from!

I mean, what else *could* it be? We all know that the Earth is flat, because if it wasn't we'd have a real base at the South Pole, and since we clearly don't, the Earth has to be flat, and therefore that so-called "base" must be fake.

Hell, it's probably mostly CGI anyway.

(Oh, and why is there a *dome* at the base near the base of the dome!? ANSWER ME THAT ONE!!! IT'S A CLUE!!!)