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Title: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 08:25:48 AM
As you know I closed my account, but I would like to give you more clues about a flat earth one last time. This will be my last thread on this forum. Have fun!

As you probably know there are some very powerful superzoom cameras around, like the Canon Powershot SX60 HS (65X), the Nikon P610 (60x) and the Nikon P900 (85x) or the newest video cameras.

Many people on youtube test these sophisticated cameras. The videos display no curvature whatsoever, but donít provide much information about the height of the camera and the distance of the objects always, so you have to figure it out yourself.

You can do the calculation of the imaginary horizon here http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)

The following ones are interesting. The objects are much farther away than the non-existing calculated Round-Earth Horizon. See if the objects sink one centimeter or more below the illusionary calculated horizon.

-1- (http://)

-2- starting from 1 minute: (http://)

-3- (http://)

-4- (http://)

-5- (http://)

-6- (http://)

-7- (http://)

-8- (http://)

-9- (http://)

-10- (http://)

-11- (http://)

-12- (http://)

-13- (http://)

-14- (http://)

-15- (http://)

-16- (http://)

-17- (http://)

-18- (http://)

-19- (http://)

-20- (http://)

-21- .....

Look on youtube for your own favourite superzoom test videos for more clues.  :)

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last message
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 20, 2015, 08:54:07 AM
As you know I closed my account, but I would like to give you more clues about a flat earth one last time. This will be my last message on this forum. Have fun!

In other words, this is a seagull post.

Bye!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last message
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 09:11:07 AM
As you know I closed my account, but I would like to give you more clues about a flat earth one last time. This will be my last message on this forum. Have fun!

In other words, this is a seagull post.

Bye!

Coward
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 20, 2015, 09:33:29 AM
One thing I can tell you tom about this guys the round earthers like alphaomega and other here , they are professional, their all life is about proving the round earth to innocent people.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 09:56:23 AM
One thing I can tell you tom about this guys the round earthers like alphaomega and other here , they are professional, their all life is about proving the round earth to innocent people.

It looks like it. They are so dumbed down that they won't even look at the videos, as they are afraid that their Round Earth will crumble or they are indeed disinfo agents.

See, what their responses are. There are hundreds of videos like this. Still, it's better to do your own observations!
I will have fun with flags!  :)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 10:18:39 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 10:35:36 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

Hahahaha, you are really funny, agent sokarul.

Most objects are 10 or more km (6 miles) away. The video from Singapore to Indonesia 40 km (25 miles).

10 km: objects should sink 7,9 meters below the calculated horizon.

40 km: objects should sink 125 meters below the calculated horizon.

It doesn't happen! So,......, agent sokarul?

Show us 10 videos from super zoom testing people that show your curvature, seeing only the top of a ship or different object.

Good luck!

btw, there are many more super zoom videos that show no curvature! You can find them!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 20, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Don't forget that the sinking is just an illusion just as transcending.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 10:41:05 AM
Don't forget that the sinking is just an illusion just as transcending.

Far far away, only the bottom will sink a little (mostly at sea). That does not account for the many meters it should sink below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 10:46:10 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

Hahahaha, you are really funny, agent sokarul.

Most objects are 10 or more km (6 miles) away. The video from Singapore to Indonesia 40 km (25 miles).

10 km: objects should sink 7,9 meters below the calculated horizon.

40 km: objects should sink 125 meters below the calculated horizon.

It doesn't happen! So,......, agent sokarul?

Show us 10 videos from super zoom testing people that show your curvature, seeing only the top of a ship or different object.

Good luck!

btw, there are many more super zoom videos that show no curvature! You can find them!
Those numbers are incorrect.
The horizon for a person is roughly 4.7km away. Notice the videos are above that height? The horizon is well beyond the objects. You can clearly see that in the videos.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 20, 2015, 10:49:21 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

Hahahaha, you are really funny, agent sokarul.

Most objects are 10 or more km (6 miles) away. The video from Singapore to Indonesia 40 km (25 miles).

10 km: objects should sink 7,9 meters below the calculated horizon.

40 km: objects should sink 125 meters below the calculated horizon.

It doesn't happen! So,......, agent sokarul?

Show us 10 videos from super zoom testing people that show your curvature, seeing only the top of a ship or different object.

Good luck!

btw, there are many more super zoom videos that show no curvature! You can find them!
Those numbers are incorrect.
The horizon for a person is roughly 4.7km away. Notice the videos are above that height? The horizon is well beyond the objects. You can clearly see that in the videos.
Conspiracy Conspiracy Nasa paying tom to say wrong figures, it's your concept wrong the horizon extend far more away.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 10:59:00 AM
No, just stupidity from OP. Horizon is clearly behind the boat still.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l448/sokarul/horizon1.jpg) (http://s331.photobucket.com/user/sokarul/media/horizon1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 10:59:55 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

Hahahaha, you are really funny, agent sokarul.

Most objects are 10 or more km (6 miles) away. The video from Singapore to Indonesia 40 km (25 miles).

10 km: objects should sink 7,9 meters below the calculated horizon.

40 km: objects should sink 125 meters below the calculated horizon.

It doesn't happen! So,......, agent sokarul?

Show us 10 videos from super zoom testing people that show your curvature, seeing only the top of a ship or different object.

Good luck!

btw, there are many more super zoom videos that show no curvature! You can find them!
Those numbers are incorrect.
The horizon for a person is roughly 4.7km away. Notice the videos are above that height? The horizon is well beyond the objects. You can clearly see that in the videos.

You are pathetic.

Here you have your calculator, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)

Please show us your 10 videos from super zoom testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 11:01:08 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

Hahahaha, you are really funny, agent sokarul.

Most objects are 10 or more km (6 miles) away. The video from Singapore to Indonesia 40 km (25 miles).

10 km: objects should sink 7,9 meters below the calculated horizon.

40 km: objects should sink 125 meters below the calculated horizon.

It doesn't happen! So,......, agent sokarul?

Show us 10 videos from super zoom testing people that show your curvature, seeing only the top of a ship or different object.

Good luck!

btw, there are many more super zoom videos that show no curvature! You can find them!
Those numbers are incorrect.
The horizon for a person is roughly 4.7km away. Notice the videos are above that height? The horizon is well beyond the objects. You can clearly see that in the videos.
Conspiracy Conspiracy Nasa paying tom to say wrong figures, it's your concept wrong the horizon extend far more away.

It's so obvious that he is a disinfo agent, nobody can be so dumbed down.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 11:04:09 AM
No, just stupidity from OP. Horizon is clearly behind the boat still.


Hahahaha, you are using a flat earth horizon to prove your round earth.

Hahahahaha,  :D

Now, give us your 10 videos from super zoom testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 11:15:04 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

Hahahaha, you are really funny, agent sokarul.

Most objects are 10 or more km (6 miles) away. The video from Singapore to Indonesia 40 km (25 miles).

10 km: objects should sink 7,9 meters below the calculated horizon.

40 km: objects should sink 125 meters below the calculated horizon.

It doesn't happen! So,......, agent sokarul?

Show us 10 videos from super zoom testing people that show your curvature, seeing only the top of a ship or different object.

Good luck!

btw, there are many more super zoom videos that show no curvature! You can find them!
Those numbers are incorrect.
The horizon for a person is roughly 4.7km away. Notice the videos are above that height? The horizon is well beyond the objects. You can clearly see that in the videos.

You are pathetic.

Here you have your calculator, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)

Please show us your 10 videos from super zoom testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Like this one?
(http://)
Or this one
(http://)

No, just stupidity from OP. Horizon is clearly behind the boat still.


Hahahaha, you are using a flat earth horizon to prove your round earth.

Hahahahaha,  :D

Now, give us your 10 videos from super zoom testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

It's a round earth horizon.

BTW what are you laughing at? You were crushed so hard you closed your account and then created a new one. This one isn't going to end well for you eighter.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last message
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 20, 2015, 11:21:06 AM
As you know I closed my account, but I would like to give you more clues about a flat earth one last time. This will be my last message on this forum. Have fun!

Liar.

Yes, I did notice that you went back and quietly edited your original post so it now says:

As you know I closed my account, but I would like to give you more clues about a flat earth one last time. This will be my last thread on this forum. Have fun!

Promises, promises... We'll see if you're lying about that, too.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 20, 2015, 11:28:28 AM
Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

Hahahaha, you are really funny, agent sokarul.

Most objects are 10 or more km (6 miles) away. The video from Singapore to Indonesia 40 km (25 miles).

10 km: objects should sink 7,9 meters below the calculated horizon.

40 km: objects should sink 125 meters below the calculated horizon.

It doesn't happen! So,......, agent sokarul?

Show us 10 videos from super zoom testing people that show your curvature, seeing only the top of a ship or different object.

Good luck!

btw, there are many more super zoom videos that show no curvature! You can find them!
Those numbers are incorrect.
The horizon for a person is roughly 4.7km away. Notice the videos are above that height? The horizon is well beyond the objects. You can clearly see that in the videos.

You are pathetic.

Here you have your calculator, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)

Please show us your 10 videos from super zoom testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Like this one?
(http://)
Or this one
(http://)

No, just stupidity from OP. Horizon is clearly behind the boat still.


Hahahaha, you are using a flat earth horizon to prove your round earth.

Hahahahaha,  :D

Now, give us your 10 videos from super zoom testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

It's a round earth horizon.

BTW what are you laughing at? You were crushed so hard you closed your account and then created a new one. This one isn't going to end well for you eighter.
It's the peak of your life - lying using lying your entire life was dedicated to lies, I bet you work for the industry.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 11:32:45 AM
I see you have no rebuttal for the videos.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 20, 2015, 11:36:29 AM
I see you have no rebuttal for the videos.
The video is faked. the ship sinking in enormous rate that doesn't occur in real life.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 11:38:43 AM
I see you have no rebuttal for the videos.
The video is faked. the ship sinking in enormous rate that doesn't occur in real life.
The pinnacle of fe'ers right here.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 11:38:52 AM
It's a round earth horizon.

[/quote]


It doesn't exist. There is only a flat earth horizon.

Now, give us your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 20, 2015, 12:35:11 PM
One thing I can tell you tom about this guys the round earthers like alphaomega and other here , they are professional, their all life is about proving the round earth to innocent people.

It looks like it. They are so dumbed down that they won't even look at the videos, as they are afraid that their Round Earth will crumble or they are indeed disinfo agents.

Won't look at the videos? Here's why:

Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

This is consistent with my own experience when I do look at such. Maybe I'm not so dumb after all.

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See, what their responses are. There are hundreds of videos like this.

Yeah, and as far as I can tell, they're all junk and a complete waste of time. That's why I usually don't watch them.

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Still, it's better to do your own observations!
I will have fun with flags!  :)

I certainly agree that making your own observations it a good thing. It's especially good if you actually understand what you're observing.

So why the blizzard of links to useless videos?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 12:45:16 PM
One thing I can tell you tom about this guys the round earthers like alphaomega and other here , they are professional, their all life is about proving the round earth to innocent people.

It looks like it. They are so dumbed down that they won't even look at the videos, as they are afraid that their Round Earth will crumble or they are indeed disinfo agents.

Won't look at the videos? Here's why:

Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

This is consistent with my own experience when I do look at such. Maybe I'm not so dumb after all.

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See, what their responses are. There are hundreds of videos like this.

Yeah, and as far as I can tell, they're all junk and a complete waste of time. That's why I usually don't watch them.

Quote
Still, it's better to do your own observations!
I will have fun with flags!  :)

I certainly agree that making your own observations it a good thing. It's especially good if you actually understand what you're observing.

So why the blizzard of links to useless videos?

You guys, love to debunk every video that is posted on this forum. It will be difficult to debunk and refute so many (hundreds) videos, showing the earth is flat.

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people to display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 01:26:12 PM
It's a round earth horizon.



It doesn't exist. There is only a flat earth horizon.

Now, give us your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
[/quote]
I gave you two. Still waiting for a response.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 20, 2015, 01:48:10 PM
One thing I can tell you tom about this guys the round earthers like alphaomega and other here , they are professional, their all life is about proving the round earth to innocent people.

It looks like it. They are so dumbed down that they won't even look at the videos, as they are afraid that their Round Earth will crumble or they are indeed disinfo agents.

Won't look at the videos? Here's why:

Well I got through 4 videos. Do you realize that boats and buildings that are closer than the horizon will not disappear behind it?

This is consistent with my own experience when I do look at such. Maybe I'm not so dumb after all.

Quote
See, what their responses are. There are hundreds of videos like this.

Yeah, and as far as I can tell, they're all junk and a complete waste of time. That's why I usually don't watch them.

Quote
Still, it's better to do your own observations!
I will have fun with flags!  :)

I certainly agree that making your own observations it a good thing. It's especially good if you actually understand what you're observing.

So why the blizzard of links to useless videos?

You guys, love to debunk every video that is posted on this forum.

Yes, we do. It's ridiculously easy, too, if you can bear to watch them in the first place.

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It will be difficult to debunk and refute so many (hundreds) videos, showing the earth is flat.

It would certainly be difficult to watch that many, at least for me. I can only take so much complete hooey at a time, even if it's accompanied with a beautiful or inspiring musical score (that's probably pirated).

Here's a general rule of thumb that I find works every single time: if a video purports to show that the Earth is flat, it's wrong. This has been the case for every one I've seen, without exception, and can be generalized to the rest. How do I know? Because the Earth isn't flat. It's really that simple.

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I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people to display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

Are videos the only form of evidence you believe? That explains a lot!

You don't take my word for any of this; go outside and make observations. Watching a sunset is easy and would be a good start. Explain how such could happen if the Earth were flat. We can go from there.

I'll tell you what... pick what you think is the best, most convincing (and most succinct, if you need a tiebreaker), of those videos you listed, or any other of the "hundreds" for that matter, and describe its content and/or what new approach it demonstrates that we haven't seen many times before. If it sounds like it might be something new (or at least an interesting new angle or observation) I promise to at least try to watch it. If it's long and there's a particularly significant part, let us know the time that happens and I'll try to at least catch that. No guarantees that I'll make it all the way through, but I will make an honest attempt.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 01:52:31 PM
It's a round earth horizon.



It doesn't exist. There is only a flat earth horizon.

Now, give us your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people to show your curvature, the top of ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
I gave you two. Still waiting for a response.
[/quote]

The first one is fake,
The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more), that it would not be possible to see the sail. The hull is sinking a bit (2 meters max) behind the bubbling sea line, the rest is visible. 15 km away, the whole sailing boat should sink 17,7 meters below the 'calculated horizon.' Your video is proof of a flat earth.

I can give you another 20 videos, showing the earth is flat. Please go to youtube yourself. Ok, one more, have you ever been to India? (http://)

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 02:07:00 PM


It would certainly be difficult to watch that many, at least for me. I can only take so much complete hooey at a time, even if it's accompanied with a beautiful or inspiring musical score (that's probably pirated).

Here's a general rule of thumb that I find works every single time: if a video purports to show that the Earth is flat, it's wrong. This has been the case for every one I've seen, without exception, and can be generalized to the rest. How do I know? Because the Earth isn't flat. It's really that simple.

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I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people to display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

Are videos the only form of evidence you believe? That explains a lot!

You don't take my word for any of this; go outside and make observations. Watching a sunset is easy and would be a good start. Explain how such could happen if the Earth were flat. We can go from there.

I'll tell you what... pick what you think is the best, most convincing (and most succinct, if you need a tiebreaker), of those videos you listed, or any other of the "hundreds" for that matter, and describe its content and/or what new approach it demonstrates that we haven't seen many times before. If it sounds like it might be something new (or at least an interesting new angle or observation) I promise to at least try to watch it. If it's long and there's a particularly significant part, let us know the time that happens and I'll try to at least catch that. No guarantees that I'll make it all the way through, but I will make an honest attempt.

Be honest. Calculations can be done for RE as well as FE. I don't want to discuss that in this thread.

There are other clues for FE, but this is a very important one. Using your own eyes. Who is saying all the time 'Pics or It Didn't Happen' or similar comments?

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 20, 2015, 03:00:51 PM
Be honest. Calculations can be done for RE as well as FE.
Sure. The difference is, when applied to the spherical Earth, they work.

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I don't want to discuss that in this thread.
Remember saying this?
This will be my last thread on this forum.
Since this is your last thread, does that mean you don't want to discuss that at all? Smart move.

Or were you lying about that, too? You really need to think about what you're saying before posting. It will make your life easier.

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There are other clues for FE, but this is a very important one. Who is saying all the time 'Pics or It Didn't Happen' or similar comments?
It isn't me.

Pictures can be informative, but if someone doesn't like what they show, they're simply dismissed as faked, so they're not really useful. Occasionally videos are necessary to convey a particular idea, but they're not often necessary, and they're also subject to being dismissed as faked or misleading.

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I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Do you think I'm going to buy a "super zoom video camera" and tootle to the coast to shoot movies for your entertainment? Not happening. Do you think I'm going to comb youtube looking for videos showing this? Not happening either.

There are some excellent stills showing exactly what you ask for here (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30002.msg729153;topicseen#msg729153) and here (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=63609.msg1687674;topicseen#msg1687674).

I'm sorry those aren't videos. Would it be more convincing if I made those into a video with an inspiring soundtrack, nice dissolves from one picture to the next, and subtitles explaining what each one signified? That's not happening either.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 20, 2015, 03:08:48 PM

I'm sorry those aren't videos. Would it be more convincing if I made those into a video with an inspiring soundtrack, nice dissolves from one picture to the next, and subtitles explaining what each one signified? That's not happening either.

This is a thread about videos that show that the earth is flat. Please stay on topic.

If you have your own videos or let's say 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon,
please show them here.
If not, this conversation is over. I have nothing to say to you or other people who don't watch the videos I'm presenting here.
So, do what you like and don't waste your time in this thread.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 20, 2015, 06:52:49 PM

I'm sorry those aren't videos. Would it be more convincing if I made those into a video with an inspiring soundtrack, nice dissolves from one picture to the next, and subtitles explaining what each one signified? That's not happening either.

This is a thread about videos that show that the earth is flat. Please stay on topic.

If you have your own videos or let's say 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon,
please show them here.
If not, this conversation is over. I have nothing to say to you or other people who don't watch the videos I'm presenting here.
So, do what you like and don't waste your time in this thread.



...
Like this one?
(http://)
Or this one
(http://)
...
Maybe this will help.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 20, 2015, 08:17:54 PM

This is a thread about videos that show that the earth is flat. Please stay on topic.


Show me just one video proving the earth is flat.   The video must be shot from sea level,  and must show an object on the horizon at least 200 km away,  if you can't do that then the earth is not flat.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:35:47 AM



...
Like this one?
(http://)
Or this one
(http://)
...
Maybe this will help.
[/quote]

I already answered this (see above), here it is again:

The first one is fake,
The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more), that it would not be possible to see the sail. The hull is sinking a bit (2 meters max) behind the bubbling sea line, the rest is visible. 15 km away, the whole sailing boat should sink 17,7 meters below the 'calculated horizon.' Your video is proof of a flat earth.

I can give you another 20 videos, showing the earth is flat. Please go to youtube yourself. Ok, one more, have you ever been to India? (http://)

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:40:07 AM

This is a thread about videos that show that the earth is flat. Please stay on topic.


Show me just one video proving the earth is flat.   The video must be shot from sea level,  and must show an object on the horizon at least 200 km away,  if you can't do that then the earth is not flat.

You must be a founding member of the Round Earth Society.

There are hundreds of videos like these ones that show that the earth is flat. No disappearing ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon. No curvature at all.

Please show us your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 21, 2015, 02:42:58 AM

This is a thread about videos that show that the earth is flat. Please stay on topic.


Show me just one video proving the earth is flat.   The video must be shot from sea level,  and must show an object on the horizon at least 200 km away,  if you can't do that then the earth is not flat.

You must be a founding member of the Round Earth Society.

There are hundreds of videos like these ones that show that the earth is flat. No disappearing ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon. No curvature at all.

Please show us your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

I'll do better than that,  here's a 24 hour live video stream.   Live_ISS_Stream on USTREAM: Live video from the International Space Station includes internal views when the crew is on-duty and Earth views at other times... (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream#)

PS.  There is no round earth society,  doesn't need one,  just like there isn't an "air exists"  society.    let me know when you find a video that proves the earth is flat,  so far you've got zilch.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:46:21 AM

This is a thread about videos that show that the earth is flat. Please stay on topic.


Show me just one video proving the earth is flat.   The video must be shot from sea level,  and must show an object on the horizon at least 200 km away,  if you can't do that then the earth is not flat.

You must be a founding member of the Round Earth Society.

There are hundreds of videos like these ones that show that the earth is flat. No disappearing ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon. No curvature at all.

Please show us your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

I'll do better than that,  here's a 24 hour live video stream.   Live_ISS_Stream on USTREAM: Live video from the International Space Station includes internal views when the crew is on-duty and Earth views at other times... (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream#)

It's fake.

I gave you 15 videos that show that the earth is flat. Did you watch them?
I can give you many more, please go to youtube yourself.

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 21, 2015, 02:58:20 AM

This is a thread about videos that show that the earth is flat. Please stay on topic.


Show me just one video proving the earth is flat.   The video must be shot from sea level,  and must show an object on the horizon at least 200 km away,  if you can't do that then the earth is not flat.

You must be a founding member of the Round Earth Society.

There are hundreds of videos like these ones that show that the earth is flat. No disappearing ships or buildings far below the calculated horizon. No curvature at all.

Please show us your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

I'll do better than that,  here's a 24 hour live video stream.   Live_ISS_Stream on USTREAM: Live video from the International Space Station includes internal views when the crew is on-duty and Earth views at other times... (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream#)

It's fake.

I gave you 15 videos that show that the earth is flat. Did you watch them?
I can give you many more, please go to youtube yourself.

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

None of your videos show the earth is flat,  and if you want to claim the ISS is fake, then you have to produce the evidence to support that assertion.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:02:01 AM
None of your videos show the earth is flat,  and if you want to claim the ISS is fake, then you have to produce the evidence to support that assertion.

That's a different topic. Please stay on topic.

I gave you 15 videos that show us that the earth is flat. No curvature whatsoever.
I can give you many more, please go to youtube yourself.

Please show us your own or 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings/objects far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 21, 2015, 03:07:15 AM
None of your videos show the earth is flat,  and if you want to claim the ISS is fake, then you have to produce the evidence to support that assertion.

That's a different topic. Please stay on topic.

I gave you 15 videos that show us that the earth is flat. No curvature whatsoever.
I can give you many more, please go to youtube yourself.

Please show us your own or 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

How do you know  what should be seen,  you haven't taken any steps to determine anything about the locations or distances or conditions,  you are just full of bullshit and hot air.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: tappet on June 21, 2015, 03:10:20 AM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:22:16 AM
None of your videos show the earth is flat,  and if you want to claim the ISS is fake, then you have to produce the evidence to support that assertion.

That's a different topic. Please stay on topic.

I gave you 15 videos that show us that the earth is flat. No curvature whatsoever.
I can give you many more, please go to youtube yourself.

Please show us your own or 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

How do you know  what should be seen,  you haven't taken any steps to determine anything about the locations or distances or conditions,  you are just full of bullshit and hot air.

You are the weakest link, goodbye!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:25:33 AM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.

Eactly, there are so many videos out there that show no curvature of the earth.

The dogged RE-believers cannot give us 10 videos proving a curvature.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 21, 2015, 03:29:54 AM
None of your videos show the earth is flat,  and if you want to claim the ISS is fake, then you have to produce the evidence to support that assertion.

That's a different topic. Please stay on topic.

I gave you 15 videos that show us that the earth is flat. No curvature whatsoever.
I can give you many more, please go to youtube yourself.

Please show us your own or 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

How do you know  what should be seen,  you haven't taken any steps to determine anything about the locations or distances or conditions,  you are just full of bullshit and hot air.

You are the weakest link, goodbye!

Goodbye Mr Larsen,  have a good life.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:40:16 AM
None of your videos show the earth is flat,  and if you want to claim the ISS is fake, then you have to produce the evidence to support that assertion.

That's a different topic. Please stay on topic.

I gave you 15 videos that show us that the earth is flat. No curvature whatsoever.
I can give you many more, please go to youtube yourself.

Please show us your own or 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.

How do you know  what should be seen,  you haven't taken any steps to determine anything about the locations or distances or conditions,  you are just full of bullshit and hot air.

You are the weakest link, goodbye!

Goodbye Mr Larsen,  have a good life.

Why do you think I'm Mr Larsen?
You are easily fooled!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 21, 2015, 04:02:05 AM
The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more),
Tom, you are a very dishonest debater.  You make up these distances.

If you didn't make it up, tell me where the 15km figure comes from.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 04:04:36 AM
The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more),
Tom, you are a very dishonest debater.  You make up these distances.

If you didn't make it up, tell me where the 15km figure comes from.

Excuse me, mr! It's not my video, you tell me (+ proof)!

I only say (based on my own experiences) what I observe on this video that proves flat earth!

Please show us your own and 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings/objects far below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 21, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more),
Tom, you are a very dishonest debater.  You make up these distances.

If you didn't make it up, tell me where the 15km figure comes from.

Excuse me, mr! It's not my video, you tell me (+ proof)!
No, I won't tell you - you linked the video as evidence, are you now disowning it? If you can't support your own evidence then it isn't worth shit.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 08:32:10 AM
The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more),
Tom, you are a very dishonest debater.  You make up these distances.

If you didn't make it up, tell me where the 15km figure comes from.



Excuse me, mr! It's not my video, you tell me (+ proof)!
No, I won't tell you - you linked the video as evidence, are you now disowning it? If you can't support your own evidence then it isn't worth shit.

No, I did not post that video link, Sokarul did. The only video he posted and it turns out to be one that shows that the earth is flat.

I posted the 14 video links in the first post of this thread and the one in India;
(http://)

All these videos show that there is no curvature. There are many more. Please go to youtube and find them!

I am still waiting for your own and 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings/objects far below the calculated horizon.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: 29silhouette on June 21, 2015, 08:42:51 AM
Don't forget that the sinking is just an illusion just as transcending.

Far far away, only the bottom will sink a little (mostly at sea). That does not account for the many meters it should sink below the calculated horizon.
Wrong again Tom.  The entire object sinks, and it's easy to tell if any mirage effect is allowing visibility of the portion that is below the horizon.

I've demonstrated this before with a 60x spotting scope.  (unlike you)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 08:46:50 AM
Don't forget that the sinking is just an illusion just as transcending.

Far far away, only the bottom will sink a little (mostly at sea). That does not account for the many meters it should sink below the calculated horizon.
Wrong again Tom.  The entire object sinks, and it's easy to tell if any mirage effect is allowing visibility of the portion that is below the horizon.

I've demonstrated this before with a 60x spotting scope.  (unlike you)

No, it does not. The sail is visible till the very end (probably more than 20 km away). Suddenly, it's completely gone.

Now, talk about the 15 videos I posted that don't show a curvature.

And,

Please show us your own and 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings/objects far below the calculated horizon.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 09:30:55 AM

The first one is fake,
In what world do you think you can just say it's fake? You are going to have to do better.

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The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more), that it would not be possible to see the sail. The hull is sinking a bit (2 meters max) behind the bubbling sea line, the rest is visible. 15 km away, the whole sailing boat should sink 17,7 meters below the 'calculated horizon.' Your video is proof of a flat earth.
You don't know any information about the video, so how do you know the drop is 17.7 meters?

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I can give you another 20 videos, showing the earth is flat. Please go to youtube yourself. Ok, one more, have you ever been to India? (http://)

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
All fake.

Better yet the real answer is you keep posting videos of objects before the horizon.

Have another video
(http://)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 10:30:48 AM

The first one is fake,
In what world do you think you can just say it's fake? You are going to have to do better.

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The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more), that it would not be possible to see the sail. The hull is sinking a bit (2 meters max) behind the bubbling sea line, the rest is visible. 15 km away, the whole sailing boat should sink 17,7 meters below the 'calculated horizon.' Your video is proof of a flat earth.
You don't know any information about the video, so how do you know the drop is 17.7 meters?

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I can give you another 20 videos, showing the earth is flat. Please go to youtube yourself. Ok, one more, have you ever been to India? (http://)

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
All fake.

Better yet the real answer is you keep posting videos of objects before the horizon.

Have another video
(http://)

Silly guy! There is only a flat earth horizon much farther away than your non-existing RE-horizon.

Another meaningless RE-'proving' video you post, it's partly taken from (http://)
starting at minute 6:00

It's 24 - 35 km (15-22 miles) away. As stated before, buildings more than 15-20 km away start to sink a little behind the bubbling sea line (far away, it's not a RE-horizon!).

Look at the crane, it is visible.

Here is one as well with the sinking effect, from a distance from more than 50 km (31 miles).
The buildings should sink almost 200 meters below your non-existing RE-horizon.
The buildings right from the tower are not that high and still visible????
From minute 1:00

(http://)


Here some more videos that show no curvature (distances given)

(http://)

(http://)

So many more videos from flat earthers as well as neutral super zoom camera testing people.
You are not showing anything profound.

When are you going to post 10 videos made by super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings/objects far below the calculated horizon?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 11:10:23 AM

The first one is fake,
In what world do you think you can just say it's fake? You are going to have to do better.

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The second: the sailing boat is so far away, at least 15 km (probably more), that it would not be possible to see the sail. The hull is sinking a bit (2 meters max) behind the bubbling sea line, the rest is visible. 15 km away, the whole sailing boat should sink 17,7 meters below the 'calculated horizon.' Your video is proof of a flat earth.
You don't know any information about the video, so how do you know the drop is 17.7 meters?

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I can give you another 20 videos, showing the earth is flat. Please go to youtube yourself. Ok, one more, have you ever been to India? (http://)

I would love to see your 10 videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon.
All fake.

Better yet the real answer is you keep posting videos of objects before the horizon.

Have another video
(http://)

Silly guy! There is only a flat earth horizon much farther away than your non-existing RE-horizon.

Another meaningless RE-'proving' video you post, it's partly taken from (http://)
starting at minute 6:00

It's 24 - 35 km (15-22 miles) away. As stated before, buildings more than 15-20 km away start to sink a little behind the bubbling sea line (far away, it's not a RE-horizon!).

Look at the crane, it is visible.

Here is one as well with the sinking effect, from a distance from more than 50 km (31 miles).
The buildings should sink almost 200 meters below your non-existing RE-horizon.
The buildings right from the tower are not that high and still visible????
From minute 1:00

(http://)


Here some more videos that show no curvature

(http://)

(http://)

So many more videos from flat earthers as well as neutral super zoom camera testing people.
You are not showing anything profound.

When are you going to post 10 videos made by super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings/objects far below the calculated horizon?
You answered zero of my questions. Try again.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 11:14:34 AM

You answered zero of my questions. Try again.

So many videos that show flat earth and you cannot produce let's say 10 decent ones that display a curvature.

Take your ball and play with it, little child.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 12:09:51 PM
Your fantasy world must be nice.
(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l448/sokarul/horizon1.jpg) (http://s331.photobucket.com/user/sokarul/media/horizon1.jpg.html)
Maybe one day you will realize the objects in the videos are before the horizon.

We both can agree on that other people did post videos where as you claimed to have used a spotting scope and cant even provide a picture of it.
I see why you had your old account closed, you were destroyed.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 12:36:01 PM
Your fantasy world must be nice.

Maybe one day you will realize the objects in the videos are before the horizon.

We both can agree on that other people did post videos where as you claimed to have used a spotting scope and cant even provide a picture of it.
I see why you had your old account closed, you were destroyed.

You really are a silly boy. You posted that image already taken from

(http://)

Your Round-Earth-horizon does not exist. The Flat-Earth horizon is much farther away.

Everyone with eyes can see that in all the videos the distance of the completely visible objects (top-down) is much farther away than would be possible on a round earth.

You only see what you want to see or you need to go to an optician to help you with your vision.

Again, these 2 videos (distances included) of 18 videos:

(http://)

(http://)

Where are your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon?

What's wrong with you? Are you so dumbed down?
When are you going to give up? Are you paid per hour maybe to post disinfo messages?

Do you really think that people reading your nonsense believe what you are saying?
You make it worse, agent sokarul.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 01:45:30 PM


You really are a silly boy. You posted that image already.

Your Round-Earth-horizon does not exist. The Flat-Earth horizon is much farther away.

Everyone with eyes can see that in all the videos the distance of the completely visible objects (top-down) is much farther away than would be possible on a round earth.
Maybe look at my picture again. Everyone but you can see the ship is before the horizon, thus it cannot show signs of being behind the horizon. 

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You only see what you want to see or you need to go to an optician to help you with your vision.
That is you, not me.

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Again, these 2 videos (distances included) of 18 videos:

(http://)

1st shot:before horizon. Also camera height is not listed. But then zoomed out to show a height well above sea level. So you think this shows a flat earth?
2nd shot: maybe 5 meters above sea level. Lists distance at 5,000 meters. This is before the horizon for this height. Horizon would be at 8,000 meters. Again, what is this supposed to prove? That ships will not sit behind the horizon when they are in front of it. Good job.
3rd shot: 8,000m. Ship is getting closer to the horizon. You can see it right above where the ship contacts water. Still not at it yet. The height of the camera is still only a guess. You can see it's on rocks above the water line.
4th shot. I can't see the water line at all.

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(http://)
Distance drop is incorrect as the drop doesn't start until after the horizon. STILL. The camera seems to be higher than 2 feet as well. At 2 feet the horizon is at 1.7 miles.
Then it looks the like lighthouse wall walls are touching the water. Where did all the rocks go?
2:41 the camera is raised. No mention of this. Probably to deceive people. Video still shows the white wall siting at water level.

[/quote]Where are your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon?

What's wrong with you? Are you so dumbed down?
When are you going to give up? Are you paid per hour maybe to post disinfo messages?

Do you really think that people reading your nonsense believe what you are saying?
You make it worse, agent sokarul.
[/quote]
I posted three. You called one fake without backing up your claim. And then spouted gibberish at the second, which showed the same thing as the first.
Did you watch the third video? See the building behind the horizon?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 01:49:33 PM

I posted three. You called one fake without backing up your claim. And then spouted gibberish at the second, which showed the same thing as the first.
Did you watch the third video? See the building behind the horizon?

Your RE-horizon does not exist.

Look at the video: the boat is far away, cannot be seen with the naked eye, see again

(http://)

Lighthouse is about 12 km away, should sink 11,2 meters. That does not happen!

Pentax 55x zoom video:

5 km: sinking should be 1,95 meters

8 km: sinking should be 5 meters

13 km: sinking should be 13,2 meters

distance 8 and 13 km: the filmer is close to the water (about 2 meters above the water level).

The sinking does not happen! Not one centimeter!

'All' your 3 videos (from RE-believers!) have been explained. Read again.


All my 18 videos don't show a curvature. There are many many more videos.

I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon?

You are making a fool of yourself!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 02:01:04 PM


Your RE-horizon does not exist.
Yes it does.
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Look at the video: the boat is far away, cannot be seen with the naked eye, see again

(http://)
The camera is higher then the men who are around 6 feet tall. Why do you keep ignoring camera height?
As my picture shows, the boat is before the horizon. The horizon is real, not fake.

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Lighthouse is 13 km away, should sink 13,2 meters. That does not happen!


5 km: sinking should be 1,95 meters

8 km: sinking should be 5 meters

13 km: sinking should be 13,2 meters

distance 8 and 13 km: the filmer is close to the water (about 2 meters above the water level).

It does not happen!

'All' your 3 videos have been explained. Read again.

I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon?

You are making a fool of yourself!
Already explained and you ignored it. Once you realize camera height matter we can continue. Are you going to learn why it matters?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:11:30 PM


Your RE-horizon does not exist.
Yes it does.
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Look at the video: the boat is far away, cannot be seen with the naked eye, see again

(http://)
The camera is higher then the men who are around 6 feet tall. Why do you keep ignoring camera height?
As my picture shows, the boat is before the horizon. The horizon is real, not fake.

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Lighthouse is 13 km away, should sink 13,2 meters. That does not happen!


5 km: sinking should be 1,95 meters

8 km: sinking should be 5 meters

13 km: sinking should be 13,2 meters

distance 8 and 13 km: the filmer is close to the water (about 2 meters above the water level).

It does not happen!

'All' your 3 videos have been explained. Read again.

I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings far below the calculated horizon?

You are making a fool of yourself!
Already explained and you ignored it. Once you realize camera height matter we can continue. Are you going to learn why it matters?

It is not a RE-horizon. It is a Flat Earth horizon. Your RE-horizon is fake.
The ship as well as the mountains at the background are far far away. The cameraman is on the beach close to the sea.

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them while your are looking for your ten videos that show a curvature of the earth.

I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?

You are making a fool of yourself!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
Did you figure out why the height of the camera matter?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:18:37 PM
Did you figure out why the height of the camera matter?

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them while your are looking for your ten videos that show a curvature of the earth.

I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?

You are making a fool of yourself!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 02:21:19 PM
Did you figure out why the height of the camera matter?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: tappet on June 21, 2015, 02:23:20 PM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Has anybody on this forum except Tom seen sinking ship in real life.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 02:24:08 PM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Has anybody on this forum except Tom seen sinking ship in real life.
He hasn't seen it.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:27:22 PM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Has anybody on this forum except Tom seen sinking ship in real life.

Do you mean the sinking ship effect at a distance of more than 15-20 km away behind the bubbling sea line?

I have. You also can see the bubbling of the sea line through a magnifying device.

You saw it as well, you wrote earlier?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:29:26 PM
Did you figure out why the height of the camera matter?

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

Everyone can figure out the height of the cameraman and the distance of the objects. In most videos it's obvious.

It's no coincidence that never an object sinks one centimeter (except for objects at a large distance (15-50 km) at sea. The bottom of these objects disappear behind a bubbling sea line, but not much. You can still see most part of the objects which don't disappear below a non-existing calculated horizon.
Conclusion: the earth is flat.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them while your are looking for your ten videos that show a curvature of the earth.

I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.

You are making a fool of yourself!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 02:31:45 PM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Has anybody on this forum except Tom seen sinking ship in real life.

Do you mean the sinking ship effect at a distance of more than 15-20 km away behind the bubbling sea line?
That is called the horizon.
Did you figure out why the height of the camera matter?

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

Everyone can figure out the height of the cameraman and the distance of the objects.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them while your are looking for your ten videos that show a curvature of the earth.

I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?

You are making a fool of yourself!
Did you figure out why the height of the camera matter?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:34:55 PM


Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 02:54:20 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: tappet on June 21, 2015, 03:00:11 PM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Has anybody on this forum except Tom seen sinking ship in real life.

Do you mean the sinking ship effect at a distance of more than 15-20 km away behind the bubbling sea line?

I have. You also can see the bubbling of the sea line through a magnifying device.

Where did you see it?
I live near a shipping lane through the Great Barrier Reef. I see sinking ship every day. The ships travel in a channel on the East side of Low Isles which is exactly 15km from shore, Low Isles is major tourism diving/reef so the ships are quite a distance past this. I can see the ships very clearly and big just with my eyes.
I quite often see fata morgana, it seems not to happen any closer than 15km. Strange as it is it can happen on glassy sea or windy rough sea.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:07:57 PM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Has anybody on this forum except Tom seen sinking ship in real life.

Do you mean the sinking ship effect at a distance of more than 15-20 km away behind the bubbling sea line?

I have. You also can see the bubbling of the sea line through a magnifying device.

Where did you see it?
I live near a shipping lane through the Great Barrier Reef. I see sinking ship every day. The ships travel in a channel on the East side of Low Isles which is exactly 15km from shore, Low Isles is major tourism diving/reef so the ships are quite a distance past this. I can see the ships very clearly and big just with my eyes.

nice place!

With more and more people having super zoom cameras, will it sink in that the earth is flat?
Many people will see it in spite of all the confusion.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 03:08:25 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
The video is probably from Rochester, New York. I forgot what the forum came up with as a distance but maybe around 50 km? The CN tower is 553.33 meters.

I have provided 4 videos now. What makes 10 such a special number?

Did you learn why the height of the camera matters?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:12:51 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
The video is probably from Rochester, New York. I forgot what the forum came up with as a distance but maybe around 50 km? The CN tower is 553.33 meters.

I have provided 4 videos now. What makes 10 such a special number?

Did you learn why the height of the camera matters?

The coordinates are given, it's 60 km.
So, the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon.
I see much more than half of the tower, at least 3/4, probably more.

see, http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/ (http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/)

How high are the buildings next to the tower? Most are not higher than 200 meters. Why do we see them in your video?

Three videos are from RE-believers and are refuted already.

Now, come up with videos, showing a curvature (and sinking objects) closer by than 15-20 km.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 03:17:57 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
The video is probably from Rochester, New York. I forgot what the forum came up with as a distance but maybe around 50 km? The CN tower is 553.33 meters.

I have provided 4 videos now. What makes 10 such a special number?

Did you learn why the height of the camera matters?

The coordinates are given, it's 60 km.
So, the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon.
I see much more than half of the tower, at least 3/4, probably more.

How high are the buildings next to the tower?
What did you use as the height of the camera for your calculations? You will have to look up the building's height yourself. I don't know it.

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Three videos are from RE-believers and are refuted already.
"It's fake" isn't refuting it. You didn't even comment on the third one.

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Now, come up with videos, showing a curvature (and sinking objects) closer by than 15-20 km.
So now it has to be closer than15-20km? Is that because I already showed it further than that distance?

Once again, if objects are closer than the horizon they weren't sink behind it. This is why the camera height matters, understand?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:19:32 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
The video is probably from Rochester, New York. I forgot what the forum came up with as a distance but maybe around 50 km? The CN tower is 553.33 meters.

I have provided 4 videos now. What makes 10 such a special number?

Did you learn why the height of the camera matters?

The coordinates are given, it's 60 km.
So, the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon.
I see much more than half of the tower, at least 3/4, probably more.

How high are the buildings next to the tower?
What did you use as the height of the camera for your calculations? You will have to look up the building's height yourself. I don't know it.

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Three videos are from RE-believers and are refuted already.
"It's fake" isn't refuting it. You didn't even comment on the third one.

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Now, come up with videos, showing a curvature (and sinking objects) closer by than 15-20 km.
So now it has to be closer than15-20km? Is that because I already showed it further than that distance?

Once again, if objects are closer than the horizon they weren't sink behind it. This is why the camera height matters, understand?

I repeat,

The coordinates are given, The video is recordered 60 km away from the tower and the buildings.
So, the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon.
I see much more than half of the tower, at least 3/4, probably more (7/8).

see, http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/ (http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/)

How high are the buildings next to the tower? Most are lower than 200 meters.
Why do we see them in your video?

If you watch the video at the beginning and at 1.03-1.10 (minute) you see a clue how high the cameraman stands! Not very high, agreed?

So, your video of the CN Tower and buildings is proof of a flat earth!

All your 4 videos are now debunked and refuted.

Please show us several videos that show a real curvature and sinking objects. Not a bottom that disappears at a (very) large distance at sea.
Real ones!

I showed you mine. 18 videos with not one centimeter sinking objects below an imaginary horizon.
There are so many....
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 03:42:10 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
The video is probably from Rochester, New York. I forgot what the forum came up with as a distance but maybe around 50 km? The CN tower is 553.33 meters.

I have provided 4 videos now. What makes 10 such a special number?

Did you learn why the height of the camera matters?

The coordinates are given, it's 60 km.
So, the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon.
I see much more than half of the tower, at least 3/4, probably more.

How high are the buildings next to the tower?
What did you use as the height of the camera for your calculations? You will have to look up the building's height yourself. I don't know it.

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Three videos are from RE-believers and are refuted already.
"It's fake" isn't refuting it. You didn't even comment on the third one.

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Now, come up with videos, showing a curvature (and sinking objects) closer by than 15-20 km.
So now it has to be closer than15-20km? Is that because I already showed it further than that distance?

Once again, if objects are closer than the horizon they weren't sink behind it. This is why the camera height matters, understand?

I repeat,

The coordinates are given, The video is recordered 60 km away from the tower and the buildings.
So, the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon.
I see much more than half of the tower, at least 3/4, probably more (7/8).
I repeat, what height for the camera did you use?

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see, http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/ (http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/)

How high are the buildings next to the tower? Most are lower than 200 meters.
Why do we see them in your video?

If you watch at 1.03-1.10 (minute) you see a clue how high the cameraman stands! Not very high, agreed?
Still has more of an effect than you think. The fact that even some of the CN tower is obstructed shows the earth to be curved. And for the second time, I don't know the height of the other building.
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All your 4 videos are now debunked and refuted.
You overestimate yourself.

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Please show us several videos that show a real curvature and sinking objects. Not a bottom that disappears at a (very) large distance at sea.
Real ones!

I showed you mine. 18 videos with not one centimeter sinking objects below an imaginary horizon.
There are so many....
I actually refuted your videos.  Did you learn why the height of the camera is important?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 21, 2015, 03:58:21 PM

All your 4 videos are now debunked and refuted.
You overestimate yourself.

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Please show us several videos that show a real curvature and sinking objects. Not a bottom that disappears at a (very) large distance at sea.
Real ones!

I showed you mine. 18 videos with not one centimeter sinking objects below an imaginary horizon.
There are so many....

I actually refuted your videos.  Did you learn why the height of the camera is important?

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regarding video (http://)

Think again, please.

If you watch the video at the beginning and at 1.03-1.10 (minute) you see a clue how high the cameraman stands! Not very high, agreed? So, we have to account for these, let's say, 2 meters.

The coordinates are given, The video is recorded 60 km away from the tower and the buildings.
So, the buildings should sink 280 meters below an imaginary horizon. See, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)

I see much more than half of the tower, probably more about 7/8 or more (if you look closely). You see it too. Let's say more or less 483 meters we can see.

see, http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/ (http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/)

How high are the buildings next to the tower? Most are lower than 200 meters. You can see that on the picture (comparing the height of the buildings with the height of the tower).

Why do we see them in your video?

We can see a very big part of the buildings.

More than half of the tower and the complete buildings should not be seen if the earth is round. Then, you would only see (part of) objects that are higher than 280 meters.

But, we see much more!

As explained earlier, the bottom of objects at sea at a large distance disappear because of the bubbling sealine-effect. It's an act of nature. Sorry, I didn't make it. It distorts our vision a bit. We can live with that.
Let's say we can't see about 1/8 of the tower, which is about 70 meters. So, we can see 210 meters of the tower that should not be seen on a round earth!

We see so much more 'building', it can only mean one thing: your video of the CN Tower and buildings is proof of a flat earth!

Thank you for another flat earth video. It will be added to the list!

Please show us several videos that show a real curvature and sinking objects. Not a bottom that disappears at a (very) large distance at sea.
Real ones!

I showed you mine. 18 videos with not one centimeter sinking objects below an imaginary horizon.
There are so many....
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 21, 2015, 04:45:53 PM

Think again, please.

If you watch the video at the beginning and at 1.03-1.10 (minute) you see a clue how high the cameraman stands! Not very high, agreed? So, we have to account for these, let's say, 2 meters.
The tripod alone would be 1.5m. You can see the type of dock he is on at the beginning to the left. Five meters would be closer but it's probably still wrong. 
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The coordinates are given, The video is recorded 60 km away from the tower and the buildings.
So, the buildings should sink 280 meters below an imaginary horizon. See, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)
That link calculate the distance to the horizon, it doesn't say how far of a drop there should be. How much drop should there be at 60 km from 5 meters high?

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I see much more than half of the tower, probably more about 7/8 or more (if you look closely). You see it too. Let's say more or less 483 meters we can see.

see, http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/ (http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/)

How high are the buildings next to the tower? Most are lower than 200 meters. You can see that on the picture (comparing the height of the buildings with the height of the tower).

Why do we see them in your video?

We can see a very big part of the buildings.

More than half of the tower and the complete buildings should not be seen if the earth is round. Then, you would only see (part of) objects that are higher than 280 meters.

But, we see much more!

As explained earlier, the bottom of objects at sea at a large distance disappear because of the bubbling sealine-effect. It's an act of nature. Sorry, I didn't make it. It distorts our vision a bit. We can live with that.
Let's say we can't see about 1/8 of the tower, which is about 70 meters. So, we can see 210 meters of the tower that should not be seen on a round earth!
The buildings go behind the horizon. This is why you see so few buildings. Most everything is covered. It's not some "bubbling sealine-effect. It the roundness of earth.

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We see so much more 'building', it can only mean one thing: your video of the CN Tower and buildings is proof of a flat earth!

Thank you for another flat earth video. It will be added to the list!

Please show us several videos that show a real curvature and sinking objects. Not a bottom that disappears at a (very) large distance at sea.
Real ones!

I showed you mine. 18 videos with not one centimeter sinking objects below an imaginary horizon.
There are so many....
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 21, 2015, 10:35:58 PM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?

If you measure how far an object should appear to sing in distance then you are calculating it wrong.  That calculation assumes that the camera is infinitely close to the surface of the Earth, which it never actually is.  You have to take the altitude of the camera into account.  This is how you calculate it properly. (http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/distance.htm)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 02:16:50 AM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?

If you measure how far an object should appear to sing in distance then you are calculating it wrong.  That calculation assumes that the camera is infinitely close to the surface of the Earth, which it never actually is.  You have to take the altitude of the camera into account.  This is how you calculate it properly. (http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/distance.htm)

Did you watch the video?

At the beginning of the video and at 1.04 minute you can see the height of the camera. It's about 2 meters.

The distance of the camera recording from the Tower and buildings is 60 km (coordinates are given).
The tower and building should sink 280 meters below your illusionary horizon. See, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)
It does not happen. The video is proof of a flat earth. (Please read my post #78 at the end of page 4 of this thread).

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I would love to see your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 22, 2015, 05:22:44 AM
(http://)
Behind the horizon.

How many kilometers away?

45 km: the buildings should sink 159 meters below an imaginary horizon

50 km: the buildings should sink 196 meters below an imaginary horizon

60 km: the buildings should sink 282 meters below an imaginary horizon

70 km: the buildings should sink 384 meters below an imaginary horizon


Tell us, mr sokarul! How far away is this video shot taken? How high is the tower and are all the building you see on the video?


Btw, I am still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?

If you measure how far an object should appear to sing in distance then you are calculating it wrong.  That calculation assumes that the camera is infinitely close to the surface of the Earth, which it never actually is.  You have to take the altitude of the camera into account.  This is how you calculate it properly. (http://boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/distance.htm)

Did you watch the video?

At the beginning of the video and at 1.04 minute you can see the height of the camera. It's about 2 meters.

The distance of the camera recording from the Tower and buildings is 60 km (coordinates are given).
The tower and building should sink 280 meters below your illusionary horizon. See, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)
It does not happen. The video is proof of a flat earth. (Please read my post #78 at the end of page 4 of this thread).

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I would love to see your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
once again, the tripod alone would be 1.5 meters. The add the dock's height and you would be closer to 5 meters. Probably more.

I disproved your videos already. I told you and now mike told you, are you ever going to learn why the height of the camera matters?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 06:48:18 AM
once again, the tripod alone would be 1.5 meters. The add the dock's height and you would be closer to 5 meters. Probably more.

I disproved your videos already. I told you and now mike told you, are you ever going to learn why the height of the camera matters?

You did not prove anything. You are shouting empty words!

Really nonsense. 2 meters or 5 meters, 280 meters or 277 meters the tower and buildings should sink below your imaginary calculated horizon. It does not make any difference.
Your video proves that the earth is flat. Please read my post #78 at the end of page 4 of this thread again.

You really are a troll-agent.

You can always post more videos. See if they make the top 10 list of excellent videos proving flat earth.

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I would love to see your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 22, 2015, 06:54:11 AM
[All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

So,  you are quite sure that the objects in the video are exactly as predicted by the round earth calculated horizon,  to within a centimeter no less.   That's pretty impressive proof of a round earth. 

To the centimeter you say...   I'm impressed no end by your measuring abilities.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 06:56:24 AM
[All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

So,  you are quite sure that the objects in the video are exactly as predicted by the round earth calculated horizon,  to within a centimeter no less.   That's pretty impressive proof of a round earth. 

To the centimeter you say...   I'm impressed no end by your measuring abilities.

The Troll-King is back! Screaming, I want my ball back!

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I would love to see your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 22, 2015, 07:05:43 AM
By your own admission all 18 of your videos show that objects at a large distance do not sink one centimeter below the calculated horizon Not one centimeter.    Your words, not mine.
Why would they,  if  that's the calculated horizon.   That's exactly what you should expect to see.  So why all the fuss.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 07:18:06 AM
By your own admission all 18 of your videos show that objects at a large distance do not sink one centimeter below the calculated horizon Not one centimeter.    Your words, not mine.
Why would they,  if  that's the calculated horizon.   That's exactly what you should expect to see.  So why all the fuss.

Your imaginary Round-Earth horizon does not exist. There is only a flat earth horizon, much farther away.

You must be shortsighted! Go see an optician. You need one!

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. You cannot see the objects with your naked eye. They are far away, often more than 5 km, more than 10 km and sometimes 30-40 km away (singapore-Indonesia). Not one centimeter the objects sink below your illusionary calculated horizon.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I'm still waiting for your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 07:19:12 AM
I find it odd that when watching some of those videos, the horizon is behind the boat or object in question.  This means that reported distance is incorrect, even for a Flat Earth explanation.  So what you are saying, for at least a few of the videos, is that you are reporting false parameters, i.e. lying.  Also why is the video of the large sailboat a fake?  What evidence do you have for this, other than modest's assumption that it is sinking too fast.  Odd how they add in times showing that it took quite awhile for it to happen.  But I guess you want to watch the whole few hours long uncut video.
Nope, once again FE people shooting themselves in the face trying to wave their arms around and claim experiments without any type of experimental controls, or reporting truthful parameters.  I posted the same two videos saying hey, here ya go some videos without any experimental data that disprove your videos.  You just claim they are fakes without any reason.  Sure, thats believable.  Please, try harder.  Your videos disprove themselves, your integrity is shot, and you have the balls to claim we are dishonest.
The only reasons you guys even have for claiming that any of the rest of us lie is because it doesn't match with your fantasies.  I still await something that resembles an honest rebuttal of anything I have ever shown here.  BTW, I have made some mistakes too, but at least I admit when i mistyped or misphrased something, I have yet to make a blatantly false statement.
So, can we get someone honest to argue for the FE please, so far all I see are little whiny babies whose only recourse is to claim the opposition is lying, all while giving obvious false information.  Ohh the irony.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 07:20:26 AM
I find it odd that when watching some of those videos, the horizon is behind the boat or object in question.  This means that reported distance is incorrect, even for a Flat Earth explanation.  So what you are saying, for at least a few of the videos, is that you are reporting false parameters, i.e. lying.  Also why is the video of the large sailboat a fake?  What evidence do you have for this, other than modest's assumption that it is sinking too fast.  Odd how they add in times showing that it took quite awhile for it to happen.  But I guess you want to watch the whole few hours long uncut video.
Nope, once again FE people shooting themselves in the face trying to wave their arms around and claim experiments without any type of experimental controls, or reporting truthful parameters.  I posted the same two videos saying hey, here ya go some videos without any experimental data that disprove your videos.  You just claim they are fakes without any reason.  Sure, thats believable.  Please, try harder.  Your videos disprove themselves, your integrity is shot, and you have the balls to claim we are dishonest.
The only reasons you guys even have for claiming that any of the rest of us lie is because it doesn't match with your fantasies.  I still await something that resembles an honest rebuttal of anything I have ever shown here.  BTW, I have made some mistakes too, but at least I admit when i mistyped or misphrased something, I have yet to make a blatantly false statement.
So, can we get someone honest to argue for the FE please, so far all I see are little whiny babies whose only recourse is to claim the opposition is lying, all while giving obvious false information.  Ohh the irony.

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I would love to see your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 22, 2015, 07:38:27 AM
I find it odd that when watching some of those videos, the horizon is behind the boat or object in question.  This means that reported distance is incorrect, even for a Flat Earth explanation.  So what you are saying, for at least a few of the videos, is that you are reporting false parameters, i.e. lying.  Also why is the video of the large sailboat a fake?  What evidence do you have for this, other than modest's assumption that it is sinking too fast.  Odd how they add in times showing that it took quite awhile for it to happen.  But I guess you want to watch the whole few hours long uncut video.
Nope, once again FE people shooting themselves in the face trying to wave their arms around and claim experiments without any type of experimental controls, or reporting truthful parameters.  I posted the same two videos saying hey, here ya go some videos without any experimental data that disprove your videos.  You just claim they are fakes without any reason.  Sure, thats believable.  Please, try harder.  Your videos disprove themselves, your integrity is shot, and you have the balls to claim we are dishonest.
The only reasons you guys even have for claiming that any of the rest of us lie is because it doesn't match with your fantasies.  I still await something that resembles an honest rebuttal of anything I have ever shown here.  BTW, I have made some mistakes too, but at least I admit when i mistyped or misphrased something, I have yet to make a blatantly false statement.
So, can we get someone honest to argue for the FE please, so far all I see are little whiny babies whose only recourse is to claim the opposition is lying, all while giving obvious false information.  Ohh the irony.

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I would love to see your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
When does RE say an object should start to sink?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 22, 2015, 08:10:07 AM
@Tom, you know that the Flat Earth Society doesn't deny that ships appear to sink as they move away?  It's such a well established and observed phenomenon that it's impossible to deny.

Instead Rowbotham tried to explain it away as being some kind of perspective trick:

(http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/img/fig83.jpg)

Quote
On the sinking ship, Rowbotham describes a mechanism by which the hull is hidden by the angular limits of perception - the ship will appear to intersect with the vanishing point and become lost to human perception as the hull's increasingly shallow path creates a tangent on which the hull is so close to the surface of the ocean that the two are indistinguishable. The ship's hull gets so close to the surface of the water as it recedes that they appear to merge together. Where bodies get so close together that they appear to merge is called the Vanishing Point. The Vanishing Point is created when the perspective lines are angled less than one minute of a degree. Hence, this effectively places the vanishing point a finite distance away from the observer.


So you are not only at odds with round earthers, but denying flat earth doctrine as well.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 09:07:17 AM
I think sokarul showed a still for you to look at again.  I guess I will watch all of your BS when I get home today.
But from what I saw, there were quite a few that showed the horizon behind the object in question.  How am I to take anything you state as truthful when I keep seeing false statements from you.
I have seen you constantly claim that your opposition never does experiments.  When presented with some, you ignore it and continue to perpetuate the lie.  you refuse to address anything that shows your observations may be in question, or you jump on someone else's coat tails and claim fakery.  You sir, need to provide accurate data, and get it verified by a reputable source before being taken as anything other than another lying fool.  Right now you are not reputable at all.  Which is why I think you tried the, "I'm leaving" bit.  I am surprised you didn't just take up another personality alt and try to broach the subject again.  But I am starting to think, with your obvious lack of integrity, that you may in fact be an alt of tappet.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 09:08:25 AM
@Tom, you know that the Flat Earth Society doesn't deny that ships appear to sink as they move away?  It's such a well established and observed phenomenon that it's impossible to deny.

Instead Rowbotham tried to explain it away as being some kind of perspective trick:

Quote
On the sinking ship, Rowbotham describes a mechanism by which the hull is hidden by the angular limits of perception - the ship will appear to intersect with the vanishing point and become lost to human perception as the hull's increasingly shallow path creates a tangent on which the hull is so close to the surface of the ocean that the two are indistinguishable. The ship's hull gets so close to the surface of the water as it recedes that they appear to merge together. Where bodies get so close together that they appear to merge is called the Vanishing Point. The Vanishing Point is created when the perspective lines are angled less than one minute of a degree. Hence, this effectively places the vanishing point a finite distance away from the observer.


So you are not only at odds with round earthers, but denying flat earth doctrine as well.

Keep in mind that all the 18 videos are made with a super zoom camera. There are many more.

The bottom of objects at a large distance (15-80 km) at sea may disappear behind a bubbling sea line, but not much. You can still see (with a magnifying device) most part of the objects which don't disappear below a non-existing calculated horizon.

You can see also the bubbling sealine with a magnifying device.

See, two examples of objects far away:

a video from minute 1:00 (http://)


a video and post #78 on page 4  (http://)


Did you find ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?


Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 22, 2015, 09:28:16 AM
@Tom, you know that the Flat Earth Society doesn't deny that ships appear to sink as they move away?  It's such a well established and observed phenomenon that it's impossible to deny.

Instead Rowbotham tried to explain it away as being some kind of perspective trick:

Quote
On the sinking ship, Rowbotham describes a mechanism by which the hull is hidden by the angular limits of perception - the ship will appear to intersect with the vanishing point and become lost to human perception as the hull's increasingly shallow path creates a tangent on which the hull is so close to the surface of the ocean that the two are indistinguishable. The ship's hull gets so close to the surface of the water as it recedes that they appear to merge together. Where bodies get so close together that they appear to merge is called the Vanishing Point. The Vanishing Point is created when the perspective lines are angled less than one minute of a degree. Hence, this effectively places the vanishing point a finite distance away from the observer.


So you are not only at odds with round earthers, but denying flat earth doctrine as well.

Keep in mind that all the 18 videos are made with a super zoom camera. There are many more.

The bottom of objects at a large distance (15-80 km) at sea may disappear behind a bubbling sea line, but not much. You can still see (with a magnifying device) most part of the objects which don't disappear below a non-existing calculated horizon.

You can see also the bubbling sealine with a magnifying device.

See, two examples of objects far away:

a video from minute 1:00 (http://)


a video and post #78 on page 4  (http://)


Did you find ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
My favorite part is how you say there is no drop but then say there is a drop and bubbles are the cause.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 09:29:30 AM

All my 18 videos show objects at a large distance that not sink one centimeter below your imaginary calculated horizon. Not one centimeter.

There are many many more on youtube. Go and find them yourself.

I would love to see your ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
When does RE say an object should start to sink?
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Prove it that your imaginary RE-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 09:33:11 AM
@Tom, you know that the Flat Earth Society doesn't deny that ships appear to sink as they move away?  It's such a well established and observed phenomenon that it's impossible to deny.

Instead Rowbotham tried to explain it away as being some kind of perspective trick:

Quote
On the sinking ship, Rowbotham describes a mechanism by which the hull is hidden by the angular limits of perception - the ship will appear to intersect with the vanishing point and become lost to human perception as the hull's increasingly shallow path creates a tangent on which the hull is so close to the surface of the ocean that the two are indistinguishable. The ship's hull gets so close to the surface of the water as it recedes that they appear to merge together. Where bodies get so close together that they appear to merge is called the Vanishing Point. The Vanishing Point is created when the perspective lines are angled less than one minute of a degree. Hence, this effectively places the vanishing point a finite distance away from the observer.


So you are not only at odds with round earthers, but denying flat earth doctrine as well.

Keep in mind that all the 18 videos are made with a super zoom camera. There are many more.

The bottom of objects at a large distance (15-80 km) at sea may disappear behind a bubbling sea line, but not much. You can still see (with a magnifying device) most part of the objects which don't disappear below a non-existing calculated horizon.

You can see also the bubbling sealine with a magnifying device.

See, two examples of objects far away:

a video from minute 1:00 (http://)


a video and post #78 on page 4  (http://)


Did you find ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
My favorite part is how you say there is no drop but then say there is a drop and bubbles are the cause.

I don't know what the exact cause is. I'm describing what I see.

There is a small part of the bottom that disappears. The bottom of objects at a large distance (15-80 km) at sea may disappear behind a bubbling sea line, but not much. You can still see (with a magnifying device) most part of the objects which don't disappear below a non-existing calculated horizon.

Your video shows an example (see also post #78 on page 4)  (http://)

Did you find ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 22, 2015, 09:35:07 AM
You can't even handle two videos. The first two videos had a good zoom on them. Why don't you show the first one to be fake. Saying it's fake means nothing.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 09:46:21 AM
You can't even handle two videos. The first two videos had a good zoom on them. Why don't you show the first one to be fake. Saying it's fake means nothing.

Both videos are proof of a flat earth as well as all other 18 videos (see the 1st post of this thread and oin other posts).

a video from minute 1:00 (http://)

a video and post #78 on page 4  (http://)

Now, Prove your imaginary RE-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.

If you can't, then go and take your ball with you.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: 29silhouette on June 22, 2015, 09:55:36 AM
Sitting here bored at the moment, so figured why not, and watched the videos.
1 boat is in front of horizon, can't determine how much of island is hidden from view.
2 same as 1
3 building isn't very far away, can't even see horizon through trees
4 shot from very high elevation, boat nowhere near horizon
5 same as 4
6 looking from one hill to another
7 shows evidence of curvature, waterline isn't as hazy as trees and brush behind it.  They should be the same distance if the water surface is flat.
8 also same as 4, plus too much haze to see horizon in one of the shots
9 boat in front of horizon
10 one ship is right on horizon, shot from slightly elevated position, normal for RE.  However why doesn't the water surface continue past the ship and fade into haze?
11 same as 4
12 same as 4
13 same as 4
14 boat looks to be just beyond horizon and boat did 'sink' more than a few centimeters.  If Earth is flat, the boat was nearly completely submerged and managed to bob back to surface without slowing. 
15 shot from high elevation, as camera zooms out from domed structures, is that a building right on edge of water?  Is there more shoreline hidden below it?  Needs comparison shots from different elevations to be sure.
16 high elevations.  Last couple ships might be below horizon. 

Since you have not provided any videos of 'super zoom' that really demonstrate flatness as there were no alternate shots from different elevations or close up shots to compare, here are some "super zoom" pictures of ships, buildings, etc, partially obscured by the horizon, or 'sunk more than a few centimeters'.

Ship 2, 8x mag. 1m alt.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6207/6155192949_68fa85794e_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitdroidtech/6155192949/)
Ships Below the Horizon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitdroidtech/6155192949/#) by max_wedge (http://www.flickr.com/people/pitdroidtech/), on Flickr

Ship 2, 8x mag. 12m alt.
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6164/6155192737_9c088a5df7_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitdroidtech/6155192737/)
Ships Below the Horizon (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pitdroidtech/6155192737/#) by max_wedge (http://www.flickr.com/people/pitdroidtech/), on Flickr

1st floor and embankment hidden
(http://imgur.com/iUBPPWM.jpeg)
(http://imgur.com/9U9cxIE.jpeg)

(http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag167/jeffro556/refractionandcurvature2_zps2a508228.jpg)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 10:02:48 AM
Amazingly, there are many buildings that are completely obscured by your video at the 1:00 mark of Toronto.  So you can see the tops of the tallest buildings there.  There is also some (a little) refraction going on over the water.
(http://i.imgur.com/b4XRW51.jpg)

 
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Googleotomy on June 22, 2015, 10:06:28 AM
In this video how much further would the ship need  to be before it sinks. Er, if it was out any further you would not even know it was there to film.
(http://)
Funny thing is I see sinking ship easily, clear, big and close by with the naked eye regularly.
Has anybody on this forum except Tom seen sinking ship in real life.


I am sure that anyone who has ever been to sea in real life has seen "the sinking ship."

And  anyone who has ever been to sea in real life has seen "the sinking land."

Either in the Navy or as a tourist on a cruise ship. To these people it is such a common occurrence in real lifethat they really don't give it much thought.

And I have never seen anyone  who was able to "recover a sinking ship with a telescope" in real lifewhich has passed over the horizon. To these people the whole flat earth idea looks as ridiculous as their other fantasies.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 10:10:40 AM
Sitting here bored at the moment, so figured why not, and watched the videos.
1 boat is in front of horizon, can't determine how much of island is hidden from view.
2 same as 1
3 building isn't very far away, can't even see horizon through trees
4 shot from very high elevation, boat nowhere near horizon
5 same as 4
6 looking from one hill to another
7 shows evidence of curvature, waterline isn't as hazy as trees and brush behind it.  They should be the same distance if the water surface is flat.
8 also same as 4, plus too much haze to see horizon in one of the shots
9 boat in front of horizon
10 one ship is right on horizon, shot from slightly elevated position, normal for RE.  However why doesn't the water surface continue past the ship and fade into haze?
11 same as 4
12 same as 4
13 same as 4
14 boat looks to be just beyond horizon and boat did 'sink' more than a few centimeters.  If Earth is flat, the boat was nearly completely submerged and managed to bob back to surface without slowing. 
15 shot from high elevation, as camera zooms out from domed structures, is that a building right on edge of water?  Is there more shoreline hidden below it?  Needs comparison shots from different elevations to be sure.
16 high elevations.  Last couple ships might be below horizon. 

Since you have not provided any videos of 'super zoom' that really demonstrate flatness as there were no alternate shots from different elevations or close up shots to compare, here are some "super zoom" pictures of ships, buildings, etc, partially obscured by the horizon, or 'sunk more than a few centimeters'.

Ship 2, 8x mag. 1m alt.


Ship 2, 8x mag. 12m alt.


1st floor and embankment hidden


If you watch all videos, the objects are farther away than your illusionary RE-horizon. The Flat Earth horizon is much farther away.

Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Googleotomy on June 22, 2015, 10:11:22 AM
Amazingly, there are many buildings that are completely obscured by your video at the 1:00 mark of Toronto.  So you can see the tops of the tallest buildings there.  There is also some (a little) refraction going on over the water.
(http://i.imgur.com/b4XRW51.jpg)

 

According to the flat earth notion if you looked at these buildings through a telescope  you should "restore" or see the bottoms of the shortest buildings.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 10:13:19 AM
Amazingly, there are many buildings that are completely obscured by your video at the 1:00 mark of Toronto.  So you can see the tops of the tallest buildings there.  There is also some (a little) refraction going on over the water.
 

regarding video (http://)


If you watch the video at the beginning and at 1.03-1.10 (minute) you see a clue how high the cameraman stands! Not very high, agreed? So, we have to account for these, let's say, 2 meters.

The coordinates are given, The video is recorded 60 km away from the tower and the buildings.
So, the buildings should sink 280 meters below an imaginary horizon. See, http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm (http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm)

The CN Tower is 553 meters high. From this huge distance the tower and the buildings look small.
I see much more than half of the tower, probably more about 7/8 or more (if you look closely). You see it too. Let's say more or less 483 meters we can see.

see, http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/ (http://www.canadawanderer.com/top-5-attractions-in-toronto/cn-tower-toronto-ilkerender/)

How high are the buildings next to the tower? Most are lower than 200 meters. You can see that on the picture (comparing the height of the buildings with the height of the tower).

Why do we see them in your video?

We can see a very big part of the buildings.

More than half of the tower and the complete buildings should not be seen if the earth is round. Then, you would only see (part of) objects that are higher than 280 meters.

But, we see much more!

As explained earlier, the bottom of objects at sea at a large distance disappear because of the bubbling sealine-effect. It's an act of nature. Sorry, I didn't make it. It distorts our vision a bit. We can live with that.
Let's say we can't see about 1/8 of the tower, which is about 70 meters. So, we can see 210 meters of the tower that should not be seen on a round earth!

We see so much more 'building', it can only mean one thing: your video of the CN Tower and buildings is proof of a flat earth!



I showed you 18 videos with not one centimeter sinking objects below an imaginary horizon.
There are so many....

Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 10:16:54 AM
Amazingly, there are many buildings that are completely obscured by your video at the 1:00 mark of Toronto.  So you can see the tops of the tallest buildings there.  There is also some (a little) refraction going on over the water.


 

According to the flat earth notion if you looked at these buildings through a telescope  you should "restore" or see the bottoms of the shortest buildings.

see post 50 (above this one).

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Googleotomy on June 22, 2015, 10:24:18 AM
What is this "bubbling sea line" ? I can assure you from personal experience  the sea is not "bubbling" on the horizon on a clear day at sea when the sea is perfectly calm.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 10:27:25 AM
So lets deal with your lack of integrity then.  First, using Google maps to measure the distance from the space needle in Toronto to the Harbor walkway trail in St. Catherines, which is where this may have been taken from, using a spot near the middle of the pier there, which I see they were not really at for the final picture is only 48 km.  Not greater than 60 km.  Now take into account the refraction that occurs over the water due to temperature, the height of the camera above the water.  It's not at ground level, its more like 5 to 6 meters.  The CN tower is (the space needle looking building) is 553 meters high.  So even taking your obvious false parameters into account, we should be able to see half of the building.
Well, add in the correct parameters, account for some refraction, and you should see not quite 3/4 of the building. 
So once again, you are incorrect.  Your own video shows an obvious curvature of the Earth, unless it is now fake.
I am guessing you are going to say its fake.
Please say its fake.
Make me happy.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 10:28:48 AM
What is this "bubbling sea line" ? I can assure you from personal experience  the sea is not "bubbling" on the horizon on a clear day at sea when the sea is perfectly calm.

It does when you look at it with a magnifying device.

Nevertheless, the video is proof of not enough curvature. So, the earth is not round on this lake.

All the other 18 videos show no curvature whatsoever.

Please prove that an imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 22, 2015, 10:43:22 AM
Nevertheless, the video is proof of not enough curvature. So, the earth is not round on this lake.

Sigh,   let's do it properly,   say the camera is 5 meters above lake level,   that means the camera horizon is   sqrt(5)*3.86 = 8.6 km,   we know from google earth the distance to the CN tower is 48 km,  so subtract the camera horizon and we get 40 km,   40 = 3.86 * sqrt (x)  so x= 107 meters.   So the bottom 107 meters of the CN tower should be obscured so long as there are no abnormal temperature gradients.

The CN tower is 533 meters high, so that's  533-107= 426,   = 80% of the cn tower should be visible.

You could get out a ruler and measure it to see how the theory compares,  but it looks about right to my eye.

So once again Tom proves the earth is round.


Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: 29silhouette on June 22, 2015, 10:52:00 AM
If you watch all videos,
I did, and I stated why they don't show proof of flat Earth.

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Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
I posted 3 pictures so far (I could find more, but I don't see the point) that show the bottom portions below the calculated horizon.  Whether video or pictures, they'll show the same thing, but without comparison shots, your videos prove nothing for FET.

Keep trying Tom, I'm sure it's out there somewhere.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 10:58:27 AM
If you watch all videos,
I did, and I stated why they don't show proof of flat Earth.

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Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
I posted 3 pictures so far (I could find more, but I don't see the point) that show the bottom portions below the calculated horizon.  Whether video or pictures, they'll show the same thing, but without comparison shots, your videos prove nothing for FET.

Keep trying Tom, I'm sure it's out there somewhere.

The objects in all 18 videos are much farther away than the non-existing calculated Round-Earth Horizon.

Your images are not proof.

Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 22, 2015, 11:01:42 AM
@Tom, you know that the Flat Earth Society doesn't deny that ships appear to sink as they move away?  It's such a well established and observed phenomenon that it's impossible to deny.

Instead Rowbotham tried to explain it away as being some kind of perspective trick:

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On the sinking ship, Rowbotham describes a mechanism by which the hull is hidden by the angular limits of perception - the ship will appear to intersect with the vanishing point and become lost to human perception as the hull's increasingly shallow path creates a tangent on which the hull is so close to the surface of the ocean that the two are indistinguishable. The ship's hull gets so close to the surface of the water as it recedes that they appear to merge together. Where bodies get so close together that they appear to merge is called the Vanishing Point. The Vanishing Point is created when the perspective lines are angled less than one minute of a degree. Hence, this effectively places the vanishing point a finite distance away from the observer.


So you are not only at odds with round earthers, but denying flat earth doctrine as well.

Keep in mind that all the 18 videos are made with a super zoom camera. There are many more.


Tom, do you know how a debate works?  You are meant to respond to what the other person is saying, not just repeat the same thing over and over again.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 11:04:50 AM
@Tom, you know that the Flat Earth Society doesn't deny that ships appear to sink as they move away?  It's such a well established and observed phenomenon that it's impossible to deny.

Instead Rowbotham tried to explain it away as being some kind of perspective trick:

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On the sinking ship, Rowbotham describes a mechanism by which the hull is hidden by the angular limits of perception - the ship will appear to intersect with the vanishing point and become lost to human perception as the hull's increasingly shallow path creates a tangent on which the hull is so close to the surface of the ocean that the two are indistinguishable. The ship's hull gets so close to the surface of the water as it recedes that they appear to merge together. Where bodies get so close together that they appear to merge is called the Vanishing Point. The Vanishing Point is created when the perspective lines are angled less than one minute of a degree. Hence, this effectively places the vanishing point a finite distance away from the observer.


So you are not only at odds with round earthers, but denying flat earth doctrine as well.

Keep in mind that all the 18 videos are made with a super zoom camera. There are many more.


Tom, do you know how a debate works?  You are meant to respond to what the other person is saying, not just repeat the same thing over and over again.

You guys are making statements about a non-existing imaginary Round-Earth horizon without any valid proof that it exists. I have to ask for proof over and over again as you are not listening.

Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Googleotomy on June 22, 2015, 11:27:00 AM
So lets deal with your lack of integrity then.  First, using Google maps to measure the distance from the space needle in Toronto to the Harbor walkway trail in St. Catherines, which is where this may have been taken from, using a spot near the middle of the pier there, which I see they were not really at for the final picture is only 48 km.  Not greater than 60 km.  Now take into account the refraction that occurs over the water due to temperature, the height of the camera above the water.  It's not at ground level, its more like 5 to 6 meters.  The CN tower is (the space needle looking building) is 553 meters high.  So even taking your obvious false parameters into account, we should be able to see half of the building.
Well, add in the correct parameters, account for some refraction, and you should see not quite 3/4 of the building. 
So once again, you are incorrect.  Your own video shows an obvious curvature of the Earth, unless it is now fake.
I am guessing you are going to say its fake.
Please say its fake.
Make me happy.
 

Here are a few things that you could answer that would make me happy with your answers.:

1.How many times you have been to sea ?
2.How many times have you seen a ship pass over the horizon ?
3.How many times have you used a telescope to "recover a ship which has passed over the horizon" ?
4.Could you tell me why a crow's nest or a radar antenna is mounted on the highest point on the tallest mast on ship ? If the earth was flat would it make much difference as to how far you could see depended on how high you were ?
5.Have you ever seen a time when the horizon "faded away into the distance" instead of being clearly defined - on a clear, calm day....especially at sea ?

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 22, 2015, 11:30:34 AM
Nevertheless, the video is proof of not enough curvature. So, the earth is not round on this lake.

Sigh,   let's do it properly,   say the camera is 5 meters above lake level,   that means the camera horizon is   sqrt(5)*3.86 = 8.6 km,   we know from google earth the distance to the CN tower is 48 km,  so subtract the camera horizon and we get 40 km,   40 = 3.86 * sqrt (x)  so x= 107 meters.   So the bottom 107 meters of the CN tower should be obscured so long as there are no abnormal temperature gradients.

The CN tower is 533 meters high, so that's  533-107= 426,   = 80% of the cn tower should be visible.

You could get out a ruler and measure it to see how the theory compares,  but it looks about right to my eye.

So once again Tom proves the earth is round.
And your presence and attitude prove the earth is flat.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 22, 2015, 11:33:35 AM
And your presence and attitude prove the earth is flat.
So if I change my attitude the earth will change shape?

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 11:40:05 AM
So lets deal with your lack of integrity then.  First, using Google maps to measure the distance from the space needle in Toronto to the Harbor walkway trail in St. Catherines, which is where this may have been taken from, using a spot near the middle of the pier there, which I see they were not really at for the final picture is only 48 km.  Not greater than 60 km.  Now take into account the refraction that occurs over the water due to temperature, the height of the camera above the water.  It's not at ground level, its more like 5 to 6 meters.  The CN tower is (the space needle looking building) is 553 meters high.  So even taking your obvious false parameters into account, we should be able to see half of the building.
Well, add in the correct parameters, account for some refraction, and you should see not quite 3/4 of the building. 
So once again, you are incorrect.  Your own video shows an obvious curvature of the Earth, unless it is now fake.
I am guessing you are going to say its fake.
Please say its fake.
Make me happy.
 

Here are a few things that you could answer that would make me happy with your answers.:

1.How many times you have been to sea ?
2.How many times have you seen a ship pass over the horizon ?
3.How many times have you used a telescope to "recover a ship which has passed over the horizon" ?
4.Could you tell me why a crow's nest or a radar antenna is mounted on the highest point on a tall mast on ship ? If the earth was flat would it make much difference as to how far you could see depended on how high you were ?
5.Have you ever seen a time when the horizon "faded away into the distance" instead of being clearly defined - on a clear, calm day....especially at sea

Many times. It's not relevant.

Please stay on topic.

It boils down to the following:

I showed you 18 videos showing many objects farther away than a calculated illusionary RE-horizon.
The objects did not disappear below a non-existing RE-horizon. Not one centimeter.

You guys are refuting the 18 videos by making claims about an imaginary RE-horizon.
You are making statements and claims about a non-existing imaginary Round-Earth horizon without any valid proof that it exists. I have to ask for proof over and over again as you are not listening.

I cannot prove that something does not exist. It's up to you guys to prove that a RE-horizon exists!

Again, please prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera testing people that display a curvature of the earth by showing the top of ships (not seeing the bottom half) or buildings (far) below the calculated horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Googleotomy on June 22, 2015, 11:44:02 AM
There is plenty of proof. Just look it up. Unless you are one those people that believe  all the scientists in the world are liars. That would include sailors, too. And just about every one else who works in the real world.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: 29silhouette on June 22, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera
So just what is the difference between a video taken with a high-powered zoom, and a picture taken with a high powered zoom, that invalidates one.

I showed you 18 videos showing many objects farther away than a calculated illusionary RE-horizon.
No, most of the objects were in front of the horizon, and in some of the videos no horizon was even visible, just a hillside or trees.

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The objects did not disappear below a non-existing RE-horizon. Not one centimeter.
One video did show that actually.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 22, 2015, 12:02:35 PM
And your presence and attitude prove the earth is flat.
So if I change my attitude the earth will change shape?
If you were with other attitude the conspiracy was unlikely.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 12:03:25 PM
There is plenty of proof. Just look it up. Unless you are one those people that believe  all the scientists in the world are liars. That would include sailors, too. And just about every one else who works in the real world.

No proof whatsoever.
I showed you 18 videos. Please show me 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 12:05:32 PM
I took a still of one of YOUR videos.  Showed where you were lying about the actual distances.  Rayzor did the math for you.  I guess this is your fake claim then.  Again you are proven to be dishonest.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 12:10:26 PM
Now, Prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists by showing ten videos from super zoom camera
So just what is the difference between a video taken with a high-powered zoom, and a picture taken with a high powered zoom, that invalidates one.

I showed you 18 videos showing many objects farther away than a calculated illusionary RE-horizon.
No, most of the objects were in front of the horizon, and in some of the videos no horizon was even visible, just a hillside or trees.

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The objects did not disappear below a non-existing RE-horizon. Not one centimeter.
One video did show that actually.

No proof whatsoever.
I showed you 18 videos. Please show me 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos.

If no one can present any decent videos-proof, then I and many unbiased readers and watchers of my 18 videos will realize that the earth is flat, although of course everyone has to make up his own mind about this.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 12:12:22 PM
I took a still of one of YOUR videos.  Showed where you were lying about the actual distances.  Rayzor did the math for you.  I guess this is your fake claim then.  Again you are proven to be dishonest.

Silly guy, they are not my videos and I did not make any statement about distances. Maybe I gave an opinion, I don't know.

I showed you 18 videos. Please show me 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos.

If no one can present any decent videos-proof, then I and many unbiased readers and watchers of my 18 videos will realize that the earth is flat, although of course everyone has to make up his own mind about this.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 22, 2015, 02:20:45 PM
Delusional.

Give it up already.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 04:08:23 PM
Ok, so you are now claiming you didn't post a link to that video and talk about the 1:00 mark, where it had a fuzzy google Earth image of a distance measuring line that noone could read and claimed that the buildings should not have been seen.  More lies from you again.  Now you wish someone to show you 10 videos of long distance things sinking below the horizon without it showing things sinking below the horizon?  You are a special kind of guy aren't you.
First, you blatantly lied several times.
Then you went all silly, thinking you could back someone with reality on their side into a corner byt putting constraints on what they could provide as proof without putting the same constraints on your own videos. 
So now you are just being a sad waste of time.
You are not very good at this debating stuff are you?  You need to go back and actually try quite a bit harder for next time.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 04:18:46 PM
I showed 18 videos. Most display objects farther away than a non-existing illusionary calculated Round-Earth horizon.
No curvature shown. Please go to youtube and find other videos that make it plain that there is no curvature and no real RE-horizon.

Now it's up to you to prove that your RE-horizon exists.

Please show your 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 22, 2015, 04:23:21 PM
No need for ten.
(http://)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 04:26:17 PM
No need for ten.
(http://)

You posted this already. It's fake, the water level is rising.


It's up to you to prove with real videos that your RE-horizon exists.

Please show your 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 04:32:48 PM
LMAO, The water level is rising?
Again, I say you need to rethink this FE supporter thing, you are really bad at it.  Using the same tired "that's fake" defense is just plain lazy.
Anything that shows you are wrong, and there is quite a lot of it out there, is fake.  Your only, yet failed, defense. 
So Tom, when are you going to do an actual experiment?  You know, with appropriate controls and all parameters reported.
You still haven't done one.  So since you love to claim others do not experiment, lets see you do one.  But truthfully, do something that can be verified since you are a very dishonest person.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 04:36:07 PM
Result until now: one fake video.

More videos are necessary to prove that your RE-horizon exists.

Please show your 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 04:39:19 PM
ok then here is one I posted a while ago.
No I am not going to provide you with 10 videos.  It's not needed.
(http://)
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 22, 2015, 04:45:46 PM
No need for ten.
(http://)

You posted this already. It's fake, the water level is rising.


It's up to you to prove with real videos that your RE-horizon exists.

Please show your 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.
You got us. Aquaman did it.

Or the camera changed it's angle, one of the two.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 22, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
ok then here is one I posted a while ago.
No I am not going to provide you with 10 videos.  It's not needed.
(http://)

No proof, sorry.

Standing close to the water restricts your view. Even a boat 500-1000 meters away would not be seen.

More videos are necessary to prove that your RE-horizon exists.

Please show your 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 22, 2015, 05:04:36 PM
Why would I provide you with more videos, when you are just going to make up lies about them?
Please do yourself a favor and try something else.
BTW are you going to address the still image I took from your video, or are you going to continue to claim that it wasn't one of yours?
Are you going to address that some of your video's showed things closer than the horizon, therefore couldn't be as far away as you say?
Are you going to provide anything in the way of information about those videos, that others made and you just decided to post here?
Please provide me with something you did.
I have provided you with stuff I did in the form of actual recorded data from an experiment.  Please do an experiment and give some data.  Stop just being a troll.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 01:06:52 AM
Come on guys!

If your imaginary Round-Earth Horizon really exists there will be many videos on youtube to prove it!


Please show your 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 23, 2015, 01:20:26 AM
Come on guys!

If your imaginary Round-Earth Horizon really exists there will be many videos on youtube to prove it!


Please show your 10 videos that prove that your imaginary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not.

You're like a little kid jumping up and down, blue in the face, demanding something from his parents.  The number of videos is irrelevant.


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I will repeat this message if necessary.
Stop spamming you fuckwit.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 01:31:45 AM
All kind of accusations from RE-believers who cannot post a few decent videos to prove their imaginary Round-Earth Horizon.

If your imaginary Round-Earth Horizon really exists there will be many videos on the internet to prove it!

Please show your 10 videos that prove that your illusionary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

No point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 23, 2015, 01:42:30 AM
Now you are just behaving like a spam bot - seriously, stop this shit.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 01:48:07 AM
This is my thread about video-proof.

I'm clearly asking for video-proof. All you get from RE-believers are all kind of trolling ridiculous messages.

They cannot post a few decent videos to prove their imaginary Round-Earth Horizon.

Dear RE-believer, if your imaginary Round-Earth Horizon really exists there will be many videos on the internet to prove it!

Please show your 10 videos that prove that your illusionary Round Earth-horizon exists. As you know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) don't count. All those videos are proof of a flat earth anyway as most part of the object does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon.

Again to make it clear, no point to post again if you don't show me your 10 videos. I only reply to posts with decent videos that prove a RE-horizon or not. I will repeat this message if necessary.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: tappet on June 23, 2015, 02:24:43 AM
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6207/6155192949_68fa85794e_o.jpg)
This is one of my favourite pictures, it shows the sinking ship illusion perfectly.
The wall of water begins at your feet.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 02:29:34 AM
This is one of my favourite pictures, it shows the sinking ship illusion perfectly.
The wall of water begins at your feet.

How high is the camera?
How far away is the ship?

Do you have any videos that prove that the imaginary Round-Earth Horizon exist?

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: tappet on June 23, 2015, 02:35:14 AM
This is one of my favourite pictures, it shows the sinking ship illusion perfectly.
The wall of water begins at your feet.

How high is the camera?
How far away is the ship?

Do you have any videos that prove that the imaginary Round-Earth Horizon exist?
Tom it is not my photo, so I know nothing about it. REers constantly show this photo that's why I like it.
Look closely at it and it will show you the sinking ship is an optical illusion.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 23, 2015, 02:47:01 AM
How so?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 02:50:36 AM
This is one of my favourite pictures, it shows the sinking ship illusion perfectly.
The wall of water begins at your feet.

How high is the camera?
How far away is the ship?

Do you have any videos that prove that the imaginary Round-Earth Horizon exist?
Tom it is not my photo, so I know nothing about it. REers constantly show this photo that's why I like it.
Look closely at it and it will show you the sinking ship is an optical illusion.

It is taken from a video that shows a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km). All those videos prove a flat earth as the object is for the most part still visible. It does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon. It will be visible till the very end when suddenly the whole object will be gone completely, vanished into the mist and not below a RE-horizon that does not exist.

Don't you think it's strange that the RE-believers cannot come up with a few decent videos that prove that their imagined RE-horizon exists?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 03:58:55 AM
FYI, I updated the list of the videos (the 1st post of this thread).

The following videos have been added or are a replacement: 1, 5, 9, 18, 19 and 20.

You can find many more videos on youtube, using search words like cruise ship zoom test, lighthouse zoom test, super zoom test, extreme zoom test camera, etc. etc.

But, of course, dear RE-believer, please post your decent 10 videos that prove that your fictional Round-Earth Horizon exists.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: MikDaTv on June 23, 2015, 04:48:03 AM
This thread isn't even fun to read anymore.  Can we stop feeding the troll and let his "last thread" die already.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 23, 2015, 05:08:34 AM
Hopefully if a mod ever turns up they'll ban him for spamming.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mainframes on June 23, 2015, 05:18:19 AM
This is one of my favourite pictures, it shows the sinking ship illusion perfectly.
The wall of water begins at your feet.

How high is the camera?
How far away is the ship?

Do you have any videos that prove that the imaginary Round-Earth Horizon exist?
Tom it is not my photo, so I know nothing about it. REers constantly show this photo that's why I like it.
Look closely at it and it will show you the sinking ship is an optical illusion.

It is taken from a video that shows a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km). All those videos prove a flat earth as the object is for the most part still visible. It does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon. It will be visible till the very end when suddenly the whole object will be gone completely, vanished into the mist and not below a RE-horizon that does not exist.

Don't you think it's strange that the RE-believers cannot come up with a few decent videos that prove that their imagined RE-horizon exists?

You mean like that video of the tall masted ship gradually disappearing over the horizon.....?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 05:32:49 AM
Why are you all so recalicitrant, posting irrelevant and irritating messages all the time.

This is a thread about video proof.

I presented mine, especially the numbers 1, 9 and 19 are excellent, but all 20 videos are about solid proof that the earth has no curvature.

I give you the chance to present your evidence of a Round-Earth Horizon.

So, please, dear RE-believer, post your decent 10 videos (recorded on the land or at sea) that prove that your fictional Round-Earth Horizon exists.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 06:30:24 AM
Why are you all so recalicitrant, posting irrelevant and irritating messages all the time.

This is a thread about video proof.

I presented mine, especially number 1, 9 and number 19 are excellent, but all 20 videos are about solid proof that the earth has no curvature.

I give you the chance to present your evidence of a Round-Earth Horizon.

So, please, dear RE-believer, post your decent 10 videos (recorded on the land or at sea) that prove that your fictional Round-Earth Horizon exists.

Tommy,   NONE of those videos show a flat earth,  several are conclusive proof  that the earth is round.   When will you open you eyes to the lies you are telling yourself.

I will give you one chance,  show me ONE video that proves flat earth. And your reasoning behind that conclusion.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 06:41:29 AM
Why are you all so recalicitrant, posting irrelevant and irritating messages all the time.

This is a thread about video proof.

I presented mine, especially number 1, 9 and number 19 are excellent, but all 20 videos are about solid proof that the earth has no curvature.

I give you the chance to present your evidence of a Round-Earth Horizon.

So, please, dear RE-believer, post your decent 10 videos (recorded on the land or at sea) that prove that your fictional Round-Earth Horizon is really present.

Tommy,   NONE of those videos show a flat earth,  several are conclusive proof  that the earth is round.   When will you open you eyes to the lies you are telling yourself.

That's your opinion.

I presented 20 videos that show no curvature of the earth whatsoever.

I'm asking you to present your video-proof.

That's a very reasonable request. It is also a chance for you to demonstrate with your videos that your imaginary Round-Earth Horizon is really present.

Please, dear RE-apostle, post your decent 10 videos (recorded on the land or at sea) that prove that your fictional Round-Earth Horizon exists.

If you can't deliver, then please have fun in other threads. This thread is about video-proof!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 06:49:22 AM
This thread is about video-proof!

But you don't have any video proof do you,  just random selections of people zooming with their video cameras.   

Actually,  if you remember correctly,  it was me that advised you to get a zoom lens for you camera rather that that silly 60x spotting scope,  if you had followed my advice you might have something to talk about, instead you've just got random crap.

Pick one of those videos that you think proves flat earth, and why you think that it does.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 06:56:42 AM
This thread is about video-proof!

But you don't have any video proof do you,  just random selections of people zooming with their video cameras.   

Actually,  if you remember correctly,  it was me that advised you to get a zoom lens for you camera rather that that silly 60x spotting scope,  if you had followed my advice you might have something to talk about, instead you've just got random crap.

Pick one of those videos that you think proves flat earth, and why you think that it does.

Live in your own fantasy.

It seems that you cannot show 10 decent videos that prove that your fantasy RE-horizon really exists.

So, do what you like and don't waste your time in this thread!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 07:16:37 AM
This thread is about video-proof!

But you don't have any video proof do you,  just random selections of people zooming with their video cameras.   

Actually,  if you remember correctly,  it was me that advised you to get a zoom lens for you camera rather that that silly 60x spotting scope,  if you had followed my advice you might have something to talk about, instead you've just got random crap.

Pick one of those videos that you think proves flat earth, and why you think that it does.

Live in your own fantasy.

It seems that you cannot show 10 decent videos that prove that your fantasy RE-horizon really exists.

So, do what you like and don't waste your time in this thread!

Why would I bother to find 10 videos to prove round earth when you've found 18 of them for me.    Just for future reference,  it's my time, i'll waste it how i like.  ;D
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 08:04:15 AM
I have watched a few of his videos, and just taking one that has a location listed so I could do a distance measurement shows a fisherman standing on a shore across the bay at the Panama beach resort.  This measurement ended up being from shore to shore of about 1.5 miles.  So if we calculate that we can see the horizon of around 3 or 4 miles from head height, what is this video showing?  More of your lying about distances?  Also the vast majority of what I have seen is a boat on the water with the horizon clearly behind it, that is to say the horizon line is on the other side of the boat from the cameraman.  So I still await your video proof of a flat Earth.  Give me something with a distance I can c double check, as you are not prone to telling the truth.  Give me something that shows a boat further out than what you would expect from the height of the observer and the distance to the object being observed.  Until then nothing you have given is anything more than other peoples videos showing off the zoom capability of their cameras.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 08:20:27 AM
This is a very simple thread. It's about video proof.

Does the Round Earth Horizon really exist (meaning the earth has a curvature) or does it only exist in the mind of believers?

I presented 20 videos. In none of them you can see a RE-horizon.

A few days ago, I summoned the RE-believers to show 10 or more decent videos that prove that the RE-horizon exist.

As we all know, videos that show a disappearing bottom of far away objects at sea (15-80 km) are not valid. Well, it's just the opposite. All those videos prove a flat earth as the object is for the most part still visible. It does not sink below an imaginary RE-horizon. It will be visible till the very end when suddenly the whole object will be gone completely, vanished into the mist and not below a RE-horizon that does not exist.

Until, now the RE-worshippers are repeating their empty words why my 20 videos are not solid proof. An imaginary RE-horizon is their instrument.

So, to end the discussion it's fair to ask them to show 10 or more decent videos to prove that their fantasy RE-horizon really exists.

Come on RE-guys, show us your 10 videos (or more). There must be hundreds of them on the internet if your RE-horizon really exists.

If you can't deliver, there is only one conclusion possible: your RE-horizon does not exist!


Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: MikDaTv on June 23, 2015, 08:29:28 AM

A few days ago, I summoned the RE-believers to show 10 or more decent videos that prove that the RE-horizon exist.

Did you say their name 3 times.  Summoning only works if you say their name 3 times.  And only if you use a 60X spotting scope.  Did you use the 60X spotting scope?

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If you can't deliver, their is only one conclusion possible: your RE- horizon does not exist!

That's not how logical conclusions work.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 08:31:56 AM

A few days ago, I summoned the RE-believers to show 10 or more decent videos that prove that the RE-horizon exist.

Did you say their name 3 times.  Summoning only works if you say their name 3 times.  And only if you use a 60X spotting scope.  Did you use the 60X spotting scope?

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If you can't deliver, their is only one conclusion possible: your RE- horizon does not exist!

That's not how logical conclusions work.

It is very logical. I cannot prove that something does not exist. It's up to you to prove it.
I am asking for your video proof.

I found hundreds of videos that show that there is no RE-horizon. I did not find any decent video that shows a RE-horizon.

It is very logical that your imaginary RE-horizon does not exist until you prove otherwise. I am asking for video-proof and not made up calculations.

Thank you for pointing out that you can't show 10 or more decent videos.

Next
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 08:32:43 AM
Again, you provided videos of people playing with their camera zoom.  Not proof or disproof of the horizon.  So if you are going to demand video proof to refute yours you must first provide it yourself.  Nothing you provided shows anything at all.  Everything you showed falls in line with what you would expect from reality... oh a round Earth. 
I took a still image of one of your own provided videos, showed you the distance, Rayzor did your calculations for you and it actually did, in fact show proof of a round Earth horizon.  So stop your incessant whining about video proof, provide some of your own.  Quantity does not equal quality.  I could give you 10000 cat videos and say those do not show a flat Earth and demand you show me cat videos that do prove it.  That's what you are doing right now.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 08:35:40 AM
Again, you provided videos of people playing with their camera zoom.  Not proof or disproof of the horizon.  So if you are going to demand video proof to refute yours you must first provide it yourself.  Nothing you provided shows anything at all.  Everything you showed falls in line with what you would expect from reality... oh a round Earth. 
I took a still image of one of your own provided videos, showed you the distance, Rayzor did your calculations for you and it actually did, in fact show proof of a round Earth horizon.  So stop your incessant whining about video proof, provide some of your own.  Quantity does not equal quality.  I could give you 10000 cat videos and say those do not show a flat Earth and demand you show me cat videos that do prove it.  That's what you are doing right now.

Thank you for pointing out that you can't deliver 10 or more decent videos that prove your imaginary RE-horizon exists.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 08:40:39 AM
Here ya go then, 10 videos that do not disprove the horizon.

1. (http://)

2. (http://)

3. (http://)

4. (http://)

5. (http://)

6. (http://)

7. (http://)

8. (http://)

9. (http://)

10. (http://)
the last one is what I feel you are doing right now.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: MikDaTv on June 23, 2015, 08:43:36 AM
Here ya go then, 10 videos that do not disprove the horizon.

1. (http://)

2. (http://)

3. (http://)

4. (http://)

5. (http://)

6. (http://)

7. (http://)

8. (http://)

9. (http://)

10. (http://)
the last one is what I feel you are doing right now.

ALL FAKE!

Sorry.  Had to
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 08:44:43 AM
Here ya go then, 10 videos that do not disprove the horizon.


the last one is what I feel you are doing right now.

It's obvious how dumbed down you are. I'm not responding to your posts anymore.
Goodbye.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 08:46:16 AM
Yep, run away little liar.  Hide your head in the sand when confronted with the truth that you are not very bright.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 08:55:07 AM
So you would rather ignore me than address your obvious lies.  So when you finally show something that would possibly be even considered evidence then we will proceed.  As of right now, showing videos of people using their camera zoom is not proof of anything.  The few that provided a location have been looked into and shown where the distance shows exactly what you would expect.  Another even showed part of the buildings hidden by the curved horizon, yet I am sure you have removed it by now. 
So for all those not ignoring me, please watch his videos and laugh at what he considered proof.  Get a good look, if you can determine the distance, please do so.  You to will understand the depths to what this guy is trying to go by showing 20 some odd random videos and calling them proof, them misstating the distances.  You know what misstating is too nice a word for it.  Outright lying about the distances.  It totally brings me to question his integrity about his so called experiment earlier that was taken apart by others on this forum.  I guess just questioning his interpretation of those distances was not enough, he probably didn't leave his cozy little hole in his mom's basement.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 08:56:02 AM
Anyone else with silly jokes?

Shall we end this nonsense?

As I could not find any decent video on the internet that prove that a RE-horizon exists and
no one else on this forum can show 10 or more decent videos that prove that a RE-horizon exists, it's fair to say that there is no such thing as a Round-Earth Horizon.

Thank you for watching my 20 videos!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 09:13:54 AM
What about the two we posted before?  The ones you claimed were fake with no reason other than the water was rising.
Well if you are now leaving that means the joke is over since you are it.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 09:19:12 AM
Anyone else with silly jokes?

Shall we end this nonsense?

As I could not find any decent video on the internet that prove that a RE-horizon exists and
no one else on this forum can show 10 or more decent videos that prove that a RE-horizon exists, it's fair to say that there is no such thing as a Round-Earth Horizon.

Thank you for watching my 20 videos!

I've got some bad news for you,   the fact that there is a horizon at all,  is due entirely to the fact that the earth is curved,   if the earth was flat, there would be no horizon,  just a blurry blue haze at the perspective vanishing point.   So, you are in fact NEVER going to be able to prove flat earth with horizon videos,   what you need to show is the perspective vanishing point  that is 300km away.

Good luck finding that on video.
 
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 23, 2015, 09:21:30 AM
Here ya go then, 10 videos that do not disprove the horizon.


the last one is what I feel you are doing right now.

It's obvious how dumbed down you are. I'm not responding to your posts anymore.
Goodbye.
You wanted 10 videos and got them. Respond to the them or shut up.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 09:40:00 AM
Here ya go then, 10 videos that do not disprove the horizon.


the last one is what I feel you are doing right now.

It's obvious how dumbed down you are. I'm not responding to your posts anymore.
Goodbye.
You wanted 10 videos and got them. Respond to the them or shut up.

Mikey T Mouse's 10 videos about cats.

You are funny, agent sokarul, very good at creating confusion.

Have fun with the updated list of 20 videos that prove that there ain't no such thing as a RE-Horizon.

Enjoy all your fantasies!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: sokarul on June 23, 2015, 10:15:10 AM
Here ya go then, 10 videos that do not disprove the horizon.


the last one is what I feel you are doing right now.

It's obvious how dumbed down you are. I'm not responding to your posts anymore.
Goodbye.
You wanted 10 videos and got them. Respond to the them or shut up.

Mikey T Mouse's 10 videos about cats.

You are funny, agent sokarul, very good at creating confusion.

Have fun with the updated list of 20 videos that prove that there ain't no such thing as a RE-Horizon.

Enjoy all your fantasies!
I didn't watch them.

Your videos have already been debunked at least twice.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 10:21:58 AM
Again, I have told you that your videos are of people playing with a zoom function on different cameras.  No distance data is accurately given, at least by you.  The couple that I could locate and measure the distance show that the object being videoed is much closer than we would expect to see a sinking ship effect.  What exactly do these show?  My videos show as much on the subject or more.  At least mine are entertaining.  And you didn't watch them all since they are not all about cats.
But you insisted on 10 quality videos that do not disprove the round Earth horizon.  There you go, they do not disprove the round Earth horizon, therefore it must be real.  Same logic as yours, better quality.
You still refuse to answer what makes you think those two videos of ships sinking over the horizon are fake.  Your only response was the water level was rising.  We could take the footage and restabilize it to keep the water level in the picture on the same line and it would still show the ship sinking over the horizon.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 10:30:27 AM

I didn't watch them.

Your videos have already been debunked at least twice.


In your dreams.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Mikey T. on June 23, 2015, 10:42:58 AM
No need to dream, just scroll back through the thread.
Much of the stupidity is highlighted. 
Again, please provide something other than cameras zooming in and out over the water to objects that have no distances attached to them.
I want to see something that might make someone who can think, actually look into your claims.  Right now you are just a joke.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 23, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
First Tom just bangs on about his 60x spotting scope.

Now he won't shut up about the fact he managed to run a search on youtube.

What exciting debating technique can we expect next?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 11:21:15 AM
First Tom just bangs on about his 60x spotting scope.

Now he won't shut up about the fact he managed to run a search on youtube.

What exciting debating technique can we expect next?

Wait till he gets a camera attachment for his spotting scope.   We will get bubbling horizons up the wazoo. 
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 23, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
First Tom just bangs on about his 60x spotting scope.

Now he won't shut up about the fact he managed to run a search on youtube.

What exciting debating technique can we expect next?

Wait till he gets a camera attachment for his spotting scope.   We will get bubbling horizons up the wazoo.
No one take you seriously doesn't it bother you ?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
First Tom just bangs on about his 60x spotting scope.

Now he won't shut up about the fact he managed to run a search on youtube.

What exciting debating technique can we expect next?

Wait till he gets a camera attachment for his spotting scope.   We will get bubbling horizons up the wazoo.
No one take you seriously doesn't it bother you ?
What no insults today,  are you still sober?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 23, 2015, 12:13:05 PM
Shall we end this nonsense?

Yes, please! Unfortunately, that's entirely up to you.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: tappet on June 23, 2015, 01:27:52 PM
Anyone else with silly jokes?

Shall we end this nonsense?

As I could not find any decent video on the internet that prove that a RE-horizon exists and
no one else on this forum can show 10 or more decent videos that prove that a RE-horizon exists, it's fair to say that there is no such thing as a Round-Earth Horizon.

Thank you for watching my 20 videos!

I've got some bad news for you,   the fact that there is a horizon at all,  is due entirely to the fact that the earth is curved,   if the earth was flat, there would be no horizon,  just a blurry blue haze at the perspective vanishing point.   So, you are in fact NEVER going to be able to prove flat earth with horizon videos,   what you need to show is the perspective vanishing point  that is 300km away.

Good luck finding that on video.
Its an optical illusion.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 01:39:29 PM
Anyone else with silly jokes?

Shall we end this nonsense?

As I could not find any decent video on the internet that prove that a RE-horizon exists and
no one else on this forum can show 10 or more decent videos that prove that a RE-horizon exists, it's fair to say that there is no such thing as a Round-Earth Horizon.

Thank you for watching my 20 videos!


Its an optical illusion.

It's nonsense. They do not have a leg to stand on. They disproved themselves by not being able to show 10 or more decent videos that prove their non-existing Round-Earth horizon.

Let them babble their empty words. That's the only thing they can do.

Don't feed the trolls!
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 01:41:49 PM
Anyone else with silly jokes?

Shall we end this nonsense?

As I could not find any decent video on the internet that prove that a RE-horizon exists and
no one else on this forum can show 10 or more decent videos that prove that a RE-horizon exists, it's fair to say that there is no such thing as a Round-Earth Horizon.

Thank you for watching my 20 videos!


Its an optical illusion.

It's nonsense. They do not have a leg to stand on. They disproved themselves by not being able to show 10 or more decent videos that prove their non-existing Round-Earth horizon.

Let them babble their empty words. That's the only thing they can do.

Don't feed the trolls!

I see that they have a spotting scope attachment kit for Nikon P900,   cheap too,  are you getting one?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Misero on June 23, 2015, 01:51:06 PM
(http://)

(http://)


Thar you go. That makes 11. Plus all of yours.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 23, 2015, 01:52:33 PM
(http://)

(http://)


Thar you go. That makes 11. Plus all of yours.
Science = The art of deception, trickery, sorcery.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 02:08:20 PM
(http://)

(http://)


Thar you go. That makes 11. Plus all of yours.
Science = The art of deception, trickery, sorcery.

They cannot present even 1 decent video that proves their imaginary RE-horizon, let alone 10.

It's kind of alchemy, kabbalah and black magick. Manipulation of energy using thought.
Their hero Newton was into it and Einstein as well.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Gefn on June 23, 2015, 02:16:27 PM
What kind of bullshit topic is that anyway ? There would be no horizon on a flat Earth (let me rephrase it : the horizon wouldn't be a sharp line like we can see every day, but rather a blurry thing, at vanishing point), so what is it all about ? Your 20 videos show that the Earth is a globe, good job Tom, but you should change the title of your thread with "More clues about round Earth".
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 02:18:56 PM
What kind of bullshit topic is that anyway ? There would be no horizon on a flat Earth, so what is it all about ? Your 18 videos show that the Earth is a globe, good job Tom.

A horizon is indeed an illusion.

The rest is nonsense. The videos don't show any curvature of the earth. Please read the whole thread before making silly remarks.

Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Gefn on June 23, 2015, 02:26:18 PM
What kind of bullshit topic is that anyway ? There would be no horizon on a flat Earth, so what is it all about ? Your 18 videos show that the Earth is a globe, good job Tom.

A horizon is indeed an illusion.

The rest is nonsense. The videos don't show any curvature of the earth. Please read the whole thread before making silly remarks.

That "illusion" would be a blurry haze on a flat Earth. If this "illusion"was a sharp line, it would only mean 1 thing : Earth is a globe. Oh wait, it's actually a sharp line in real life ! Yataa ! So as I said, your 20 videos, showing a sharp line, prove that Earth is a globe.

Thank you for your job, you may rename the topic now.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Tom Last on June 23, 2015, 02:33:06 PM
What kind of bullshit topic is that anyway ? There would be no horizon on a flat Earth, so what is it all about ? Your 18 videos show that the Earth is a globe, good job Tom.

A horizon is indeed an illusion.

The rest is nonsense. The videos don't show any curvature of the earth. Please read the whole thread before making silly remarks.

That "illusion" would be a blurry haze on a flat Earth. If this "illusion"were a sharp line, it would only mean 1 thing : Earth is a globe. Oh wait, it's actually a sharp line in real life ! Yataa ! So as I said, your 20 videos, showing a sharp line, prove that Earth is a globe.

Thank you for your job.

Nonsense. You let your imagination go wild.

It is as it is, a flat earth without any curvature whatsoever.

The 20 videos show that there is no RE-horizon objects disappear under. There is no curvature.

No one on this forum could post 10 decent videos that prove that your imaginary RE-Horizon exists.

Before you are posting anything, please read the whole thread. I will not repeat everything again.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 23, 2015, 02:33:39 PM
What kind of bullshit topic is that anyway ? There would be no horizon on a flat Earth, so what is it all about ? Your 18 videos show that the Earth is a globe, good job Tom.

A horizon is indeed an illusion.

The rest is nonsense. The videos don't show any curvature of the earth. Please read the whole thread before making silly remarks.

That "illusion" would be a blurry haze on a flat Earth. If this "illusion"was a sharp line, it would only mean 1 thing : Earth is a globe. Oh wait, it's actually a sharp line in real life ! Yataa ! So as I said, your 20 videos, showing a sharp line, prove that Earth is a globe.

Thank you for your job, you may rename the topic now.
You are pathetic do you actually think the strong line of "horizon" is due to the curvature of earth ? see some of tom video and you see it just our perception of this illusion.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: JerkFace on June 23, 2015, 02:38:30 PM
You are pathetic do you actually think the strong line of "horizon" is due to the curvature of earth ? see some of tom video and you see it just our perception of this illusion.
Actually that is correct,  the sharp line is proof of a round earth.   You are wrong about the illusion..
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 23, 2015, 02:41:19 PM
You flat earthers just shout "illusion" whenever something fits round Earth and not flat Earth.  Ignoring the fact that you can't explain the cause of any of these "illusions" isn't the appeal of FET that it supposedly makes less assumptions?  Round earthers just assume that there is no massive conspiracy involving a considerable amount of the world's population there to trick the rest of us for no apparent reason and at an unreasonable expense and we also assume that the Earth is as it seems: round.

You are pathetic do you actually think the strong line of "horizon" is due to the curvature of earth ? see some of tom video and you see it just our perception of this illusion.

Tom's video showed no illusion, the table was simply out of focus.  There are even parts of the video where the table is in perfect focus when the guy is refocusing the camera.  He is either lying or he knows less about photography then a 5 year old.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Gefn on June 23, 2015, 02:43:48 PM
Redbull is also part of the global conspiracy btw

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Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: Gefn on June 23, 2015, 02:46:41 PM
What kind of bullshit topic is that anyway ? There would be no horizon on a flat Earth, so what is it all about ? Your 18 videos show that the Earth is a globe, good job Tom.

A horizon is indeed an illusion.

The rest is nonsense. The videos don't show any curvature of the earth. Please read the whole thread before making silly remarks.

That "illusion" would be a blurry haze on a flat Earth. If this "illusion"was a sharp line, it would only mean 1 thing : Earth is a globe. Oh wait, it's actually a sharp line in real life ! Yataa ! So as I said, your 20 videos, showing a sharp line, prove that Earth is a globe.

Thank you for your job, you may rename the topic now.
You are pathetic do you actually think the strong line of "horizon" is due to the curvature of earth ? see some of tom video and you see it just our perception of this illusion.

I don't think so, I'm sure of it, because I have more than 2 braincells. Just use your brain and try to imagine how the horizon would be if we were on a flat Earth.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 23, 2015, 02:51:58 PM
What kind of bullshit topic is that anyway ? There would be no horizon on a flat Earth, so what is it all about ? Your 18 videos show that the Earth is a globe, good job Tom.

A horizon is indeed an illusion.

The rest is nonsense. The videos don't show any curvature of the earth. Please read the whole thread before making silly remarks.

That "illusion" would be a blurry haze on a flat Earth. If this "illusion"was a sharp line, it would only mean 1 thing : Earth is a globe. Oh wait, it's actually a sharp line in real life ! Yataa ! So as I said, your 20 videos, showing a sharp line, prove that Earth is a globe.

Thank you for your job, you may rename the topic now.
You are pathetic do you actually think the strong line of "horizon" is due to the curvature of earth ? see some of tom video and you see it just our perception of this illusion.

I don't think so, I'm sure of it, because I have more than 2 braincells. Just use your brain and try to imagine how the horizon would be if we were on a flat Earth.
I don't believe in Brain cells.
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: modestman on June 23, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
You flat earthers just shout "illusion" whenever something fits round Earth and not flat Earth.  Ignoring the fact that you can't explain the cause of any of these "illusions" isn't the appeal of FET that it supposedly makes less assumptions?  Round earthers just assume that there is no massive conspiracy involving a considerable amount of the world's population there to trick the rest of us for no apparent reason and at an unreasonable expense and we also assume that the Earth is as it seems: round.

You are pathetic do you actually think the strong line of "horizon" is due to the curvature of earth ? see some of tom video and you see it just our perception of this illusion.

Tom's video showed no illusion, the table was simply out of focus.  There are even parts of the video where the table is in perfect focus when the guy is refocusing the camera.  He is either lying or he knows less about photography then a 5 year old.
I have referred to other video, and to remind you, you are the first to say take the refraction into consideration and what is refraction if not an illusion ?
Title: Re: More clues about a flat earth; many videos; last thread
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 23, 2015, 03:10:28 PM
I have referred to other video, and to remind you, you are the first to say take the refraction into consideration and what is refraction if not an illusion ?

Refraction is an effect, not an illusion, and you cannot deny that it exists:

(http://etc.usf.edu/clippix/pix/refraction-of-pencil-in-cup-of-water_medium.jpg)

Stop acting like it's something round earthers made up to explain being able to see further then you can on a round Earth, refraction is very well understood and it can actually predict exactly what we see given that it exists.