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Title: I think it might be round
Post by: Itchy_Arris on June 15, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Vauxhall on June 15, 2015, 12:21:59 PM
There is a difference between accepting and having an open mind.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikewolf13 on June 15, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?

I thought you were told by the Master (or whatever you called him) about the new worlds to be revealed on the plane?

If so, you are either crazy...or definitely right. Nothing anyone says here will change that. You are either correct or insane.

P.s. don't base your beliefs on faith. use facts. be willing to revise when more information becomes available.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Pongo on June 15, 2015, 12:38:29 PM
You are either correct or insane.

That's a false dichotomy.  A few other possibilities include:

-She or he is lying.
-She or he is being coerced into saying these things.
-There was an elaborate rouse put into place by Itchy_Arris' "friends" that is making her or him believe that the earth is flat.

This is just what I came up with while typing.  The path to Flat-Earth Theory isn't as simple as, "taking the one less traveled."  It's a wondrous journey of learning and truth that can't be broken down into simple binary switches.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: hoppy on June 15, 2015, 01:19:42 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?
Yes ezpecially early on in this new belief. The brainwashing is not easy to discard.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: JerkFace on June 15, 2015, 01:38:14 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?

Follow the evidence,  and  question everything.     
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikewolf13 on June 15, 2015, 01:46:08 PM
You are either correct or insane.

That's a false dichotomy.  A few other possibilities include:

-She or he is lying.
-She or he is being coerced into saying these things.
-There was an elaborate rouse put into place by Itchy_Arris' "friends" that is making her or him believe that the earth is flat.

This is just what I came up with while typing.  The path to Flat-Earth Theory isn't as simple as, "taking the one less traveled."  It's a wondrous journey of learning and truth that can't be broken down into simple binary switches.

The dichotomy was predicated on IF he had been told these things by the Master.  Because I said "If so,"

If Itchy is having fun, or lying, or being coerced etc. then the premise would be false and the two choices would not apply.

If Itchy actually believes that  he was told by the Master  about the revelation of the new lands in the infinite plane. I believe those are the only two likely possibilities...though I guess the Master could be just screwing with him... so I will concede that is a third possibility....or the Master is wrong......or the Master was coerced, by the supreme master....who himself may have been duped by the SUperSupremeMaster (with a cherry on top)

But since we like simple empirical observations with little assumptions:
If he is telling the truth, he is correct or crazy. (but we know he's just playing)
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: kman on June 15, 2015, 02:03:03 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?

Let's look at it this way.

99% of the population accepts round earth. Flat earthers believe that they know more about basically everything than the 99%. That's also what sceintologists believe, along with those who believe that they are jesus or that obama's a lizard. And the obama lizard people are just as legitimate as the flat earth people, have just as much evidence, and are as convinced.

Do you see now, itchy? Maybe you're not the one of the few lonely superior geniuses in the hordes of stupid, unwashed plebians.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Itchy_Arris on June 15, 2015, 02:40:00 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?

Let's look at it this way.

99% of the population accepts round earth. Flat earthers believe that they know more about basically everything than the 99%. That's also what sceintologists believe, along with those who believe that they are jesus or that obama's a lizard. And the obama lizard people are just as legitimate as the flat earth people, have just as much evidence, and are as convinced.

Do you see now, itchy? Maybe you're not the one of the few lonely superior geniuses in the hordes of stupid, unwashed plebians.

It's not about being a genius or being stupid. It's about being able to think outside of the rigid indoctrination we have all received.


Who the feck is the The Master? Wasn't he a Dr Who villain?
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: kman on June 15, 2015, 02:54:52 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?

Let's look at it this way.

99% of the population accepts round earth. Flat earthers believe that they know more about basically everything than the 99%. That's also what sceintologists believe, along with those who believe that they are jesus or that obama's a lizard. And the obama lizard people are just as legitimate as the flat earth people, have just as much evidence, and are as convinced.

Do you see now, itchy? Maybe you're not the one of the few lonely superior geniuses in the hordes of stupid, unwashed plebians.

It's about being able to think outside of the rigid indoctrination we have all received.


And that's what all the other wack jobs think. They all have the same exact conviction as you. What sets you guys apart?
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikewolf13 on June 15, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?

Let's look at it this way.

99% of the population accepts round earth. Flat earthers believe that they know more about basically everything than the 99%. That's also what sceintologists believe, along with those who believe that they are jesus or that obama's a lizard. And the obama lizard people are just as legitimate as the flat earth people, have just as much evidence, and are as convinced.

Do you see now, itchy? Maybe you're not the one of the few lonely superior geniuses in the hordes of stupid, unwashed plebians.

It's not about being a genius or being stupid. It's about being able to think outside of the rigid indoctrination we have all received.


Who the feck is the The Master? Wasn't he a Dr Who villain?
Sorry. You called him the Controller.

Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: The Ellimist on June 15, 2015, 04:32:02 PM
This guy literally admitted he was trolling before.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: modestman on June 16, 2015, 12:16:47 AM
I have these feelings a lot.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Itchy_Arris on June 16, 2015, 12:39:20 AM
This guy literally admitted he was trolling before.

Yes, and I explained that as I attract a lot of attention, I have to throw my stalkers off the scent sometimes.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on June 16, 2015, 02:39:58 AM
This guy literally admitted he was trolling before.

Yes, and I explained that as I attract a lot of attention, I have to throw my stalkers off the scent sometimes.
What scent?
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: kman on June 16, 2015, 04:32:03 AM
This guy literally admitted he was trolling before.

Yes, and I explained that as I attract a lot of attention

No you don't
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: sokarul on June 16, 2015, 09:37:21 AM
I am having doubts. My research has not been conclusive so far, and round earth is starting to actually make sense. Maybe I am just being overwhelmed by the mainstream brainwashing, or maybe I've been listening to the roundies on here too much. I am losing my faith.

Do any other believers suffer from this?
tired of trolling already? Well you almost made it 2 months.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Pongo on June 16, 2015, 09:48:55 AM
99% of the population accepts round earth.

Do you have any proof for this assertion or is this just how you feel?
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: kman on June 16, 2015, 09:55:17 AM
99% of the population accepts round earth.

Do you have any proof for this assertion or is this just how you feel?

It's an extremely rational educated guess
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: robintex on June 16, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
If you had had any education and any experience at all you would "know that the earth is round" and absolutely no reason that you would "think it might be round."
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Itchy_Arris on June 16, 2015, 12:13:04 PM
It's ironic that The Flat Earth Society forum put doubts in my mind; shows how roundie-dominated this place.

Don't worry though, I'm back to my old self.

It's flat as a pancake!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Pongo on June 16, 2015, 12:52:57 PM
99% of the population accepts round earth.

Do you have any proof for this assertion or is this just how you feel?

It's an extremely rational educated guess

Based on what?  In my industry, we call that "tummy feels."  You are basing your information on how your "tummy feels."
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: kman on June 16, 2015, 01:18:50 PM
99% of the population accepts round earth.

Do you have any proof for this assertion or is this just how you feel?

It's an extremely rational educated guess

Based on what?  In my industry, we call that "tummy feels."  You are basing your information on how your "tummy feels."

Do you have a better estimate?

The entire world is exposed and taught 21st century science. There is no evidence that a substantial amount of people chose to ignore it.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikewolf13 on June 16, 2015, 01:22:33 PM
 

Based on what?  In my industry, we call that "tummy feels."  You are basing your information on how your "tummy feels."


Isn't that exactly the rational behind FET. The earth feels flat.

"It seems odd to think I could be spinning at 1000mph so I must not be..it just feels that way."
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: kman on June 16, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
It's ironic that The Flat Earth Society forum put doubts in my mind; shows how roundie-dominated this place.

Don't worry though, I'm back to my old self.

It's flat as a pancake!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well shit. There goes my raise.

Can you at least tell my NASA supervisor that I convinced you? I have a wife and kids too.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Itchy_Arris on June 16, 2015, 02:07:04 PM
It's ironic that The Flat Earth Society forum put doubts in my mind; shows how roundie-dominated this place.

Don't worry though, I'm back to my old self.

It's flat as a pancake!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Can you at least tell my NASA supervisor that I convinced you? I have a wife and kids too.


Yeah I'll give you a good report.....for a cut of that NASA cheque!
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: modestman on June 16, 2015, 09:30:51 PM
If there is a god-the earth is flat because god is reasonable.
If there is no god there earth could be round.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: kman on June 17, 2015, 07:47:25 AM
If there is a god-the earth is flat because god is reasonable.


What kind of sadist would make a creature that breathes out of the same hole it eats from?
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 17, 2015, 11:49:50 AM
It's ironic that The Flat Earth Society forum put doubts in my mind; shows how roundie-dominated this place.

Don't worry though, I'm back to my old self.

It's flat as a pancake!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And I was just about to congratulate you for having an open mind...  Don't think of changing opinions as loosing or doing what "they" want.  That's the problem with conspiracy theories, those who believe them can't think strait because they think that even considering the other side is loosing in some way.  If you keep an open mind and consider the other side then if your beliefs are really true then your opinion shouldn't change anyway, so there is no harm in doing it.

Meanwhile how about you contemplate how sunsets and time zones could exist at the same time on a flat Earth.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Itchy_Arris on June 17, 2015, 12:28:46 PM
It's ironic that The Flat Earth Society forum put doubts in my mind; shows how roundie-dominated this place.

Don't worry though, I'm back to my old self.

It's flat as a pancake!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And I was just about to congratulate you for having an open mind...  Don't think of changing opinions as loosing or doing what "they" want.  That's the problem with conspiracy theories, those who believe them can't think strait because they think that even considering the other side is loosing in some way.  If you keep an open mind and consider the other side then if your beliefs are really true then your opinion shouldn't change anyway, so there is no harm in doing it.

Meanwhile how about you contemplate how sunsets and time zones could exist at the same time on a flat Earth.

It's "losing" not "loosing".

Young people's spelling and grammar is atrocious these days.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 17, 2015, 02:02:07 PM
It's ironic that The Flat Earth Society forum put doubts in my mind; shows how roundie-dominated this place.

Don't worry though, I'm back to my old self.

It's flat as a pancake!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And I was just about to congratulate you for having an open mind...  Don't think of changing opinions as loosing or doing what "they" want.  That's the problem with conspiracy theories, those who believe them can't think strait because they think that even considering the other side is loosing in some way.  If you keep an open mind and consider the other side then if your beliefs are really true then your opinion shouldn't change anyway, so there is no harm in doing it.

Meanwhile how about you contemplate how sunsets and time zones could exist at the same time on a flat Earth.

It's "losing" not "loosing".

Young people's spelling and grammar is atrocious these days.

Irrelevant.  Just respond to my points.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Honest J on June 18, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
Why do you guys spend so much time on this?
Just consider the "no zig-zagging sun on Arctic Circle during summer" issue and it's over: Earth is Flat.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 18, 2015, 05:19:44 PM
Why do you guys spend so much time on this?
Just consider the no "zig-zagging sun on Arctic Circle during summer" argument and it's over: Earth is Flat.

Even cikljamas seems to have finally given up on that "argument".

Wait... cik? Is that you?
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Honest J on June 18, 2015, 05:30:07 PM
Nope, someone else here... and, yes I have changed that sentence.
Anyway, is there any shadow of doubt when one sees the sun going around? I laughed for hours...
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 19, 2015, 06:08:45 PM
Nope, someone else here... and, yes I have changed that sentence.
Anyway, is there any shadow of doubt when one sees the sun going around? I laughed for hours...

How about when the same thing happens in the antarctic circle?  Please explain to me how that would be possible on a flat Earth.  I have already told you via PM how this happens on a round Earth.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Honest J on June 20, 2015, 06:12:27 AM
Nope, someone else here... and, yes I have changed that sentence.
Anyway, is there any shadow of doubt when one sees the sun going around? I laughed for hours...

How about when the same thing happens in the antarctic circle?  Please explain to me how that would be possible on a flat Earth.  I have already told you via PM how this happens on a round Earth.

Thanks, mikeman. I appreciated your message with video attached, nice material indeed. Please, note that I have presented a problem concerning ths sun going around 360 degrees on the North Pole and now you bring me another strange fact that the sun "also goes around 360 degrees" on the South Pole. For me it seems another impossibility as well. If the sun is FAR AWAY and STILL there's no way to observe that from the poles. Sorry, but I decided to adopt the handle Honest J for a good reason. I'm still waiting for a good explanation and didn't buy the FE stuff yet. Greetings!
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 20, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Nope, someone else here... and, yes I have changed that sentence.
Anyway, is there any shadow of doubt when one sees the sun going around? I laughed for hours...

How about when the same thing happens in the antarctic circle?  Please explain to me how that would be possible on a flat Earth.  I have already told you via PM how this happens on a round Earth.

Thanks, mikeman. I appreciated your message with video attached, nice material indeed. Please, note that I have presented a problem concerning ths sun going around 360 degrees on the North Pole and now you bring me another strange fact that the sun "also goes around 360 degrees" on the South Pole. For me it seems another impossibility as well. If the sun is FAR AWAY and STILL there's no way to observe that from the poles. Sorry, but I decided to adopt the handle Honest J for a good reason. I'm still waiting for a good explanation and didn't buy the FE stuff yet. Greetings!

Why not start a new thread to discuss "How Does a Midnight Sun Work on a Spherical Earth?" or something like. There's already been a lot of discussion about that here, but so much extraneous stuff associated with the term that the relevant posts are hard to find.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Honest J on June 20, 2015, 03:41:37 PM
Thanks Alpha2Omega, you are very kind. I'm still new on the block so don't know how to start a thread yet. Mikeman was also very polite and sent me nice material, but not a word about my doubt. The "midnight sun" is not precisely what I'm talking about, you know that. "Midnight Sun" is a good advertising idea for a remote small town in northern Norway. You have posted hundreds of times in this forum so this subject should not be new stuff - not for you especially.

My queston is "how can the sun go around 360 degrees and be seen that way by an observer near the pole". So far it seems impossible for me, but I still hope some smart guy could give me a clue - btw you have suggested in a PM to ask the question in a forum - and yet here I am being invited to start a new thread. If no answer comes, sure I will.




Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 20, 2015, 05:20:36 PM
Thanks, mikeman. I appreciated your message with video attached, nice material indeed. Please, note that I have presented a problem concerning ths sun going around 360 degrees on the North Pole and now you bring me another strange fact that the sun "also goes around 360 degrees" on the South Pole. For me it seems another impossibility as well. If the sun is FAR AWAY and STILL there's no way to observe that from the poles. Sorry, but I decided to adopt the handle Honest J for a good reason. I'm still waiting for a good explanation and didn't buy the FE stuff yet. Greetings!

I found a video on the subject that should help you understand it:

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Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 22, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
Thanks Alpha2Omega, you are very kind. I'm still new on the block so don't know how to start a thread yet.

This really needs its own thread ("Topic" in this forum's speak) if you're still bewildered after mikeman's explanation and video (I haven't seen it, so don't know how effective it is).

It's easy. To start a new topic in, say, the Flat Earth Debate board:

Go to the Flat Earth Debate board's main page.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=10.0 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=10.0)

Click the little "New Topic" button on the right-hand side near the top.

Type in your subject in the line marked Subject:.

Type in your concern in the main edit box.

[Optional, but recommended] Click the Preview button below the main edit box.

[Optional] Check that photos, links, etc. are as expected and text is formatted to your liking.

[Optional] Make any changes and repeat the preview as desired.

Click the Post button (next to Preview) when you're ready to post.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: Itchy_Arris on June 22, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
ZIGZAG is irrefutable proof that the earth cannot be round. A real breakthrough in flat earth theory.
Title: Re: I think it might be round
Post by: mikeman7918 on June 22, 2015, 05:29:00 PM
ZIGZAG is irrefutable proof that the earth cannot be round. A real breakthrough in flat earth theory.

I have debunked that argument many times.  Zig zag should not be expected on a round Earth.  Flat earthers are just so desperate for evidence that they will take anything though.