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Title: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
1. How can Earth be flat if other astronomical objects with a diameter bigger than few hundreds of kilometers are round? And please, don't tell me that Earth is "another kind" of object, because it's not. Earth is based on the same things as for example Mars, Jupiter, WASP-12b and so on.

2. If Earth is flat, how then can you go to north pole starting from north pole through the south pole?

3. How can the seasons and changes in sunbeams trajectory exist if the Earth is flat? Please, Sun isn't 2000 km from Earth, everybody knows that using simplest mathematics.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 07, 2015, 01:33:36 PM
for 1 and 3 i refer you to my faq.
seasons change when the sun moves closer and further from the central pole.

2 is not confirmed as possible, people usually circumnavigate. if it can be confirmed, i offer one possible explanation under 'speculation' in my faq.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 01:35:49 PM
for 1 and 3 i refer you to my faq.
seasons change when the sun moves closer and further from the central pole.

2 is not confirmed as possible, people usually circumnavigate. if it can be confirmed, i offer one possible explanation under 'speculation' in my faq.

I don't know where is your faq, If I find it I'll simply answer you.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 07, 2015, 01:36:37 PM
for 1 and 3 i refer you to my faq.
seasons change when the sun moves closer and further from the central pole.

2 is not confirmed as possible, people usually circumnavigate. if it can be confirmed, i offer one possible explanation under 'speculation' in my faq.

I don't know where is your faq, If I find it I'll simply answer you.

my signature.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
my signature.

I can't enter the site, it's showing me the "invalid session" title. Could you copy/paste it there?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Vauxhall on March 07, 2015, 01:40:59 PM
Jrowe, your link is broken. I've tried to access it myself with no luck.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 07, 2015, 01:44:09 PM
fixed, i think. i think i pasted the wrong link before.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 01:47:11 PM
fixed, i think. i think i pasted the wrong link before.

Can I just disprove your "FAQ"?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 01:54:07 PM
fixed, i think. i think i pasted the wrong link before.

Can I just disprove your "FAQ"?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Vauxhall on March 07, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
fixed, i think. i think i pasted the wrong link before.

Can I just disprove your "FAQ"?

I don't understand the question.

Can you?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Mikey T. on March 07, 2015, 01:56:21 PM
Just don't do it in his FAQ thread, debate him in this forum not in the information one.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
fixed, i think. i think i pasted the wrong link before.

Ok, so first off...
Your FAQ is wrong.
Second off - I will prove it right now.

"this is a sphere, and yet no flat surfaces exist on a sphere" - Because in fact on our planet no thing that "lies" on the ground is flat, it seems, but it doesn't.

"We also acknowledge the fact that all matter is accelerating. [...] If you have matter accelerating, however, it cannot form a sphere." - It's not a matter accelerating, but a space. The most basic thing you (i think) don't understand. And if it's a space accelerating, we have then no problem.

Aether thingies - you're doing it wrong, because you're supposing it on flat Earth that you haven't yet proved.

"planets look the same as stars when seen with the naked eye (absurd if they are just rock or unlit gas). The moon glows too brightly to be just a rock." - That's because of atmosphere, amount of light and materials that these objects are made of. Photons are "bouncing" off the objects and then going straight towards our eyes. If it's too distant, we can't see more than a light and it's obvious. Objects in our system aren't black holes, so they can't "eat" light. Photons just bounce off and go into our eyes. Simple. And. Moon has a little bit of a almost white dust on it, so it easily reflects light. I'm sorry to say that, but you all flat-earthers with your "proves" sound kinda like medieval priests.

"sun's rays are always facing downward" - There are no directions in space. If you turn your head you'll say that sun's rays are facing upwards.

"Around the earth is an ice wall." - Sorry, but no evidence I see for it and even no ice wall I see. I was at the south pole twice, it's not hard to go there. The thing is that actually only few want to go there, because it is... pretty boring out there. For real, the pretty only thing we had to do is to drink whisky and simply live.

"There is no such thing as air." - So if there's no air, gases like nitrogen, oxygen, argon, carbon dioxide, neon, helium and methane don't exist? Are you serious? Even the fact that we can condense the air proves the air existence.

"Fire does not require oxygen. [...] Fire requires motion, like all heat." - No. Fire requires oxygen, without it it simply doesn't shows up. If oxygen weren't needed for a fire, then it would have shown up in space.


I see that you pretty much every time put "aether" instead of "air". Why do you want to think that planes just fly to proper whirlpool instead of thinking that they're just making a lift power using an air flowing through the wings? Aircrafts are made in "air" way, not in irrational "aether" way.

cheers
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Weatherwax on March 07, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 02:48:38 PM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Weatherwax on March 07, 2015, 02:58:53 PM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

That's a very good analogy. It reminds me very much of Richard Dawkins debating with fundamental Christians - Dawkins always comes out on top, but he doesn't change the views of the Christians.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 07, 2015, 03:10:08 PM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

That's a very good analogy. It reminds me very much of Richard Dawkins debating with fundamental Christians - Dawkins always comes out on top, but he doesn't change the views of the Christians.

Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 07, 2015, 03:21:31 PM
Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

So you say that most of the people on this website are RE'ers?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Weatherwax on March 07, 2015, 03:27:37 PM
Have a look around, ask some questions, you can make your own mind up as to whether anyone really believes it.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: gpssjim on March 07, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
for 1 and 3 i refer you to my faq.
seasons change when the sun moves closer and further from the central pole.

2 is not confirmed as possible, people usually circumnavigate. if it can be confirmed, i offer one possible explanation under 'speculation' in my faq.
The FAQ should be renamed WAG.  When any one refers to problems in the FAQ you FETers respond by saying that there is no agreement on the theories in the FAQ and that it is not meant to be taken as the actual FET theory.  The FAQ is pure BS, it is meaningless to refer to it.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 08, 2015, 05:29:50 AM
Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

So you say that most of the people on this website are RE'ers?

Yes. There's literally about three people who are mentally tilted enough to really think the earth is flat (and they almost never post here) and the rest are a bunch of fifteen-year-olds who like to laugh at people they've fooled into thinking they really believe it. The aim of most of their posts is to generate outraged anger from the RE side, at which they gleefully giggle and high five their own penises.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 05:48:01 AM
Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

So you say that most of the people on this website are RE'ers?

Yes. There's literally about three people who are mentally tilted enough to really think the earth is flat (and they almost never post here) and the rest are a bunch of fifteen-year-olds who like to laugh at people they've fooled into thinking they really believe it. The aim of most of their posts is to generate outraged anger from the RE side, at which they gleefully giggle and high five their own penises.

Who's really not a flat Earther? JRowe? Jroa? Ciji-something? For now only these people were claiming they are FE'ers.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Son of Orospu on March 08, 2015, 05:56:21 AM
Dinosaur Neil believes that the Earth is a toroid and is only here to train wreck any meaningful discussion that might be going on. 
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 06:02:52 AM
Dinosaur Neil believes that the Earth is a toroid and is only here to train wreck any meaningful discussion that might be going on.

So you two here are... special... In negative way ofc.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 08, 2015, 06:17:51 AM
Dinosaur Neil believes that the Earth is a toroid and is only here to train wreck any meaningful discussion that might be going on.

No, I'm here to disprove FET, because it's cobblers. It can't be true because the earth is a toroid.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 08, 2015, 06:19:06 AM
Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

So you say that most of the people on this website are RE'ers?

Yes. There's literally about three people who are mentally tilted enough to really think the earth is flat (and they almost never post here) and the rest are a bunch of fifteen-year-olds who like to laugh at people they've fooled into thinking they really believe it. The aim of most of their posts is to generate outraged anger from the RE side, at which they gleefully giggle and high five their own penises.

Who's really not a flat Earther? JRowe? Jroa? Ciji-something? For now only these people were claiming they are FE'ers.

The real flat earthers are Sandokhan, Bullhorn and hoppy. All the others are claiming falsely.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 06:28:01 AM
Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

So you say that most of the people on this website are RE'ers?

Yes. There's literally about three people who are mentally tilted enough to really think the earth is flat (and they almost never post here) and the rest are a bunch of fifteen-year-olds who like to laugh at people they've fooled into thinking they really believe it. The aim of most of their posts is to generate outraged anger from the RE side, at which they gleefully giggle and high five their own penises.

Who's really not a flat Earther? JRowe? Jroa? Ciji-something? For now only these people were claiming they are FE'ers.

The real flat earthers are Sandokhan, Bullhorn and hoppy. All the others are claiming falsely.

First off - the Earth is not toroid.
Second off - isn't Tausami a real flat earther?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 08, 2015, 06:52:44 AM
Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

So you say that most of the people on this website are RE'ers?

Yes. There's literally about three people who are mentally tilted enough to really think the earth is flat (and they almost never post here) and the rest are a bunch of fifteen-year-olds who like to laugh at people they've fooled into thinking they really believe it. The aim of most of their posts is to generate outraged anger from the RE side, at which they gleefully giggle and high five their own penises.

Who's really not a flat Earther? JRowe? Jroa? Ciji-something? For now only these people were claiming they are FE'ers.

The real flat earthers are Sandokhan, Bullhorn and hoppy. All the others are claiming falsely.

First off - the Earth is not toroid.
Second off - isn't Tausami a real flat earther?

Tausami? Good grief man, of course not! I strongly suspect him of being Vauxhall under another name anyway. They both love aetheric whirlpools.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 06:58:32 AM
Except it's a poor analogy because most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

So you say that most of the people on this website are RE'ers?

Yes. There's literally about three people who are mentally tilted enough to really think the earth is flat (and they almost never post here) and the rest are a bunch of fifteen-year-olds who like to laugh at people they've fooled into thinking they really believe it. The aim of most of their posts is to generate outraged anger from the RE side, at which they gleefully giggle and high five their own penises.

Who's really not a flat Earther? JRowe? Jroa? Ciji-something? For now only these people were claiming they are FE'ers.

The real flat earthers are Sandokhan, Bullhorn and hoppy. All the others are claiming falsely.

First off - the Earth is not toroid.
Second off - isn't Tausami a real flat earther?

Tausami? Good grief man, of course not! I strongly suspect him of being Vauxhall under another name anyway. They both love aetheric whirlpools.

So I see every fake flat earther do.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: ausGeoff on March 08, 2015, 07:19:20 AM
for 1 and 3 i refer you to my faq.
seasons change when the sun moves closer and further from the central pole.

2 is not confirmed as possible, people usually circumnavigate. if it can be confirmed, i offer one possible explanation under 'speculation' in my faq.

Your nonsensical "FAQ" is nothing more than a ludicrous collection of pseudo-scientific factoids unsupported by any empirical evidence.  It also presents no accredited scientific references, or anything other than your silly guesses and hare-brained notions about a lot of stuff you have zero understanding of.

Normally, an FAQ attempts to enumerate and provide viable answers to questions raised by interested parties.  On the other hand, your FAQ reads like a cross between a Monty Python script and a Flash Gordon comic book.

I can only suggest that people avoid wasting any time wading through reams of imaginative but ultimately boring fantasy;  I'd suggest Terry Pratchett's "Discworld" series as a far more enlightening experience.  There's also more likelihood of Pratchett's work containing a few elements of truth as a bonus—in comparison with JRoweSkeptic's fiction.

    ;D
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 08, 2015, 08:42:44 AM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

you did not refute my faq, you made a list of multiple assertions and nothing else. you argue "oh, everything says it's flat, but it's not!" and neglect a basic tenet of round earther fantasy, that everything is accelerating. if you want to reject your science, go ahead, but that makes my point for me too.
then the rest of what you say is based on asserting a round earth with no basis.
gases do exist, air does not. if you aren't even going to read the faq, don't respond. don't be like ausgeoff.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 08:49:37 AM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

you did not refute my faq, you made a list of multiple assertions and nothing else. you argue "oh, everything says it's flat, but it's not!" and neglect a basic tenet of round earther fantasy, that everything is accelerating. if you want to reject your science, go ahead, but that makes my point for me too.
then the rest of what you say is based on asserting a round earth with no basis.
gases do exist, air does not. if you aren't even going to read the faq, don't respond. don't be like ausgeoff.

1. Only medieval idiots used their poor vision as evidence for flatness of the Earth.
2. Round Earth isn't a fantasy, there's hundred of photos from NASA or Roskosmos showing Earth. Even if you don't believe them, make your own camera on balloon and let it go up to 30 km. It'll be like this, if you make a camera on a homemade rocket - (http://)
3. Space is accelerating, not matter. If you don't understand this REALLY BASIC fact and evidence of BB, then it's your problem.
4. Yes, these gases exist and mixed up they make an air. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: FalseProphet on March 08, 2015, 08:53:24 AM
most of the FE'ers on here only pretend to believe it.

Why then do you argue with them?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 08, 2015, 08:55:53 AM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

you did not refute my faq, you made a list of multiple assertions and nothing else. you argue "oh, everything says it's flat, but it's not!" and neglect a basic tenet of round earther fantasy, that everything is accelerating. if you want to reject your science, go ahead, but that makes my point for me too.
then the rest of what you say is based on asserting a round earth with no basis.
gases do exist, air does not. if you aren't even going to read the faq, don't respond. don't be like ausgeoff.

1. Only medieval idiots used their poor vision as evidence for flatness of the Earth.
2. Round Earth isn't a fantasy, there's hundred of photos from NASA or Roskosmos showing Earth. Even if you don't believe them, make your own camera on balloon and let it go up to 30 km. It'll be like this, if you make a camera on a homemade rocket - (https://server9.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s9iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/snlffhcn/snop/p2/watch?v=p4V-SRWG4SM)
3. Space is accelerating, not matter. If you don't understand this REALLY BASIC fact and evidence of BB, then it's your problem.
4. Yes, these gases exist and mixed up they make an air. Simple as that.

the reason i made the faq, and it's to avoid having to repeat myself. you're new, i understand, you think it's going to be easy to refute, but that doesn't mean you don't need to do any research. 1 and 4 are answered, if you really hold 3 i suggest you research physics, and 2 has been answered multiple times on this forum.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

you did not refute my faq, you made a list of multiple assertions and nothing else. you argue "oh, everything says it's flat, but it's not!" and neglect a basic tenet of round earther fantasy, that everything is accelerating. if you want to reject your science, go ahead, but that makes my point for me too.
then the rest of what you say is based on asserting a round earth with no basis.
gases do exist, air does not. if you aren't even going to read the faq, don't respond. don't be like ausgeoff.

1. Only medieval idiots used their poor vision as evidence for flatness of the Earth.
2. Round Earth isn't a fantasy, there's hundred of photos from NASA or Roskosmos showing Earth. Even if you don't believe them, make your own camera on balloon and let it go up to 30 km. It'll be like this, if you make a camera on a homemade rocket - (https://server9.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s9iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/snlffhcn/snop/p2/watch?v=p4V-SRWG4SM)
3. Space is accelerating, not matter. If you don't understand this REALLY BASIC fact and evidence of BB, then it's your problem.
4. Yes, these gases exist and mixed up they make an air. Simple as that.

the reason i made the faq, and it's to avoid having to repeat myself. you're new, i understand, you think it's going to be easy to refute, but that doesn't mean you don't need to do any research. 1 and 4 are answered, if you really hold 3 i suggest you research physics, and 2 has been answered multiple times on this forum.

How 1 and 4 are answered? Because from what I've seen in the topic "Since air doesn't exist" nothing has been answered at all.
3. Haha, you're going to teach me physics? YOU?! Admit that you know nothing about it and admit that the space is accelerating, not matter.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 08, 2015, 09:15:19 AM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

you did not refute my faq, you made a list of multiple assertions and nothing else. you argue "oh, everything says it's flat, but it's not!" and neglect a basic tenet of round earther fantasy, that everything is accelerating. if you want to reject your science, go ahead, but that makes my point for me too.
then the rest of what you say is based on asserting a round earth with no basis.
gases do exist, air does not. if you aren't even going to read the faq, don't respond. don't be like ausgeoff.

1. Only medieval idiots used their poor vision as evidence for flatness of the Earth.
2. Round Earth isn't a fantasy, there's hundred of photos from NASA or Roskosmos showing Earth. Even if you don't believe them, make your own camera on balloon and let it go up to 30 km. It'll be like this, if you make a camera on a homemade rocket - (https://server9.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s9iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s9iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/snlffhcn/snop/p2/watch?v=p4V-SRWG4SM)
3. Space is accelerating, not matter. If you don't understand this REALLY BASIC fact and evidence of BB, then it's your problem.
4. Yes, these gases exist and mixed up they make an air. Simple as that.

the reason i made the faq, and it's to avoid having to repeat myself. you're new, i understand, you think it's going to be easy to refute, but that doesn't mean you don't need to do any research. 1 and 4 are answered, if you really hold 3 i suggest you research physics, and 2 has been answered multiple times on this forum.

How 1 and 4 are answered? Because from what I've seen in the topic "Since air doesn't exist" nothing has been answered at all.
3. Haha, you're going to teach me physics? YOU?! Admit that you know nothing about it and admit that the space is accelerating, not matter.

faq. again, read. there's no point in talking if you're not going to read a word or if you refuse to admit you're wrong. you seem so confident in what you say, please provide a source for the assertion that no matter is accelerating, and space alone is, and explain how we can move a certain distance and not be accelerating: after all, the earth is not getting wider with this expansion of space, so somehow we're either immune to it, or we're caught up and move with it.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Weatherwax on March 08, 2015, 09:25:43 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 09:29:54 AM
LogicalKiller. Believe me, all these points and more have been raised, resulting in like 20 pages of debate with more and more illogical answers.

The thing is, for the people that really believe in a flat earth, it's like faith. Sure, you can debate it, but can't disprove someone's faith. After all, faith doesn't need evidence or logic.

I'm most sad about fact that pretty no one gave that clear, transparent comment.
BTW: 'debate] - Hahahahah, this discussion doesn't seem as a debate at all, it's rather like a talk between a Texas conservative farmer and a NORMAL person.

you did not refute my faq, you made a list of multiple assertions and nothing else. you argue "oh, everything says it's flat, but it's not!" and neglect a basic tenet of round earther fantasy, that everything is accelerating. if you want to reject your science, go ahead, but that makes my point for me too.
then the rest of what you say is based on asserting a round earth with no basis.
gases do exist, air does not. if you aren't even going to read the faq, don't respond. don't be like ausgeoff.

1. Only medieval idiots used their poor vision as evidence for flatness of the Earth.
2. Round Earth isn't a fantasy, there's hundred of photos from NASA or Roskosmos showing Earth. Even if you don't believe them, make your own camera on balloon and let it go up to 30 km. It'll be like this, if you make a camera on a homemade rocket - (https://server9.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s9iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/shhzdcy/s9iwolzo/p2/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/snlffhcn/snop/p2/watch?v=p4V-SRWG4SM)
3. Space is accelerating, not matter. If you don't understand this REALLY BASIC fact and evidence of BB, then it's your problem.
4. Yes, these gases exist and mixed up they make an air. Simple as that.

the reason i made the faq, and it's to avoid having to repeat myself. you're new, i understand, you think it's going to be easy to refute, but that doesn't mean you don't need to do any research. 1 and 4 are answered, if you really hold 3 i suggest you research physics, and 2 has been answered multiple times on this forum.

How 1 and 4 are answered? Because from what I've seen in the topic "Since air doesn't exist" nothing has been answered at all.
3. Haha, you're going to teach me physics? YOU?! Admit that you know nothing about it and admit that the space is accelerating, not matter.

faq. again, read. there's no point in talking if you're not going to read a word or if you refuse to admit you're wrong. you seem so confident in what you say, please provide a source for the assertion that no matter is accelerating, and space alone is, and explain how we can move a certain distance and not be accelerating: after all, the earth is not getting wider with this expansion of space, so somehow we're either immune to it, or we're caught up and move with it.

Don't rely on your crappy FAQ, it bases on utter shit and science fiction. If you can write, then write it here or copy the thing you think might be answer for my questions. Matter isn't accelerating, space is. That's why universe is expanding faster than light. If matter had been accelerating, then all galaxies and objects from BB to now would have disintegrated. Matter is accelerating seemingly, but objectively it's doing no movement if we're talking if it accelerates or no.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 08, 2015, 09:32:14 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.

i'm secure in what i know: that doesn't mean i won't offer clarification (they having to keep repeating myself does get grating).
it would be nice is round earthers would do the same courtesy. mikeman used to, before a recent thread. you tend to, misero tends to. otherwise there's the likes of ausgeoff, and now logicalkiller's just ignored my post utterly.
thank you for being one of the few. 
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 09:41:57 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.

i'm secure in what i know: that doesn't mean i won't offer clarification (they having to keep repeating myself does get grating).
it would be nice is round earthers would do the same courtesy. mikeman used to, before a recent thread. you tend to, misero tends to. otherwise there's the likes of ausgeoff, and now logicalkiller's just ignored my post utterly.
thank you for being one of the few.

I only read your FAQ, I'm not going to read all 15 pages of useless discussion. And 70% of your FAQ is the fictional aether part, so I'm not going to read it too.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 08, 2015, 09:44:18 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.

i'm secure in what i know: that doesn't mean i won't offer clarification (they having to keep repeating myself does get grating).
it would be nice is round earthers would do the same courtesy. mikeman used to, before a recent thread. you tend to, misero tends to. otherwise there's the likes of ausgeoff, and now logicalkiller's just ignored my post utterly.
thank you for being one of the few.

I only read your FAQ, I'm not going to read all 15 pages of useless discussion. And 70% of your FAQ is the fictional aether part, so I'm not going to read it too.

by 15 pages, i assume you mean 2 posts?

if you're not going to read up on the theory, or going to understand the basic principle of observation, why do you insist on criticizing? by your own admission you know nothing about it.
just stop. please.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Son of Orospu on March 08, 2015, 09:44:58 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.

i'm secure in what i know: that doesn't mean i won't offer clarification (they having to keep repeating myself does get grating).
it would be nice is round earthers would do the same courtesy. mikeman used to, before a recent thread. you tend to, misero tends to. otherwise there's the likes of ausgeoff, and now logicalkiller's just ignored my post utterly.
thank you for being one of the few.

I only read your FAQ, I'm not going to read all 15 pages of useless discussion. And 70% of your FAQ is the fictional aether part, so I'm not going to read it too.

Einstein believed in aether.  So did Tesla.  What makes you think you are so much smarter than those two geniuses? 
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 09:54:56 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.

i'm secure in what i know: that doesn't mean i won't offer clarification (they having to keep repeating myself does get grating).
it would be nice is round earthers would do the same courtesy. mikeman used to, before a recent thread. you tend to, misero tends to. otherwise there's the likes of ausgeoff, and now logicalkiller's just ignored my post utterly.
thank you for being one of the few.

I only read your FAQ, I'm not going to read all 15 pages of useless discussion. And 70% of your FAQ is the fictional aether part, so I'm not going to read it too.

by 15 pages, i assume you mean 2 posts?

if you're not going to read up on the theory, or going to understand the basic principle of observation, why do you insist on criticizing? by your own admission you know nothing about it.
just stop. please.

Two posts? What 2 posts? Your FAQ is placed in 1 post.

cheers
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Dinosaur Neil on March 08, 2015, 11:20:07 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.

i'm secure in what i know: that doesn't mean i won't offer clarification (they having to keep repeating myself does get grating).
it would be nice is round earthers would do the same courtesy. mikeman used to, before a recent thread. you tend to, misero tends to. otherwise there's the likes of ausgeoff, and now logicalkiller's just ignored my post utterly.
thank you for being one of the few.

I only read your FAQ, I'm not going to read all 15 pages of useless discussion. And 70% of your FAQ is the fictional aether part, so I'm not going to read it too.

Einstein believed in aether.  So did Tesla.  What makes you think you are so much smarter than those two geniuses?

Appeal to authority, logical fallacy. Additionally, lies, as the substance they referred to as aether was not the same stuff FE'rs are now using as the Theory Of Everything.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 08, 2015, 11:28:01 AM
Whatever you think of his answers, JRowe does at least attempt to directly answer most questions. You've got to admire his persistence.

i'm secure in what i know: that doesn't mean i won't offer clarification (they having to keep repeating myself does get grating).
it would be nice is round earthers would do the same courtesy. mikeman used to, before a recent thread. you tend to, misero tends to. otherwise there's the likes of ausgeoff, and now logicalkiller's just ignored my post utterly.
thank you for being one of the few.

I only read your FAQ, I'm not going to read all 15 pages of useless discussion. And 70% of your FAQ is the fictional aether part, so I'm not going to read it too.

Einstein believed in aether.  So did Tesla.  What makes you think you are so much smarter than those two geniuses?

First off - Einstein USED TO believe in aether.
Second off - they believed in aether as in a substance filling up the world, not the shit filler for everything that is problematic to FE.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: Weatherwax on March 08, 2015, 12:11:28 PM




I only read your FAQ, I'm not going to read all 15 pages of useless discussion. And 70% of your FAQ is the fictional aether part, so I'm not going to read it too.
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Einstein believed in aether.  So did Tesla.  What makes you think you are so much smarter than those two geniuses?
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Einstein used the term ether, but not in the sense it's being used here.

Concerning ether
If we talk about ether here, then of course we don't talk about the bodily ether of the mechanical theory of undulation, which obeys the law of Newton's mechanics, and whose single points have velocities assigned to them. This theoretical construct has, in my opinion, found its definite end in the special theory of relativity. Instead, we talk about those things considered as physically-real, which, apart from ponderable matter consisting of electrical elementary particles, play a role in the causal nexus of physics. Instead of 'ether', we could as well talk about 'physical qualities of space'. Well, one could be of the opinion that this definition applies to all objects of physics, because according to strict field theory, also the ponderable matter (i.e. the elementary particles that constitute it) can be considered as 'fields' of a special kind, i.e. as special 'states of space'. However, one will have to admit that, in the current state of physics, such an opinion would be premature, because all effort of theoretical physics directed at this goal, has so far been in vain. As things are today, we are factually forced to discriminate between 'matter' and 'ether', but we may hope that later generations will overcome this dualistic picture and replace it with a uniform field theory, as field theory in our day has tried in vain.

Albert Einstein (letters)

Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/did-einstein-accept-the-ether.4021/ (https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/did-einstein-accept-the-ether.4021/)
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: texasusaguy on March 08, 2015, 04:13:57 PM
All those fake NASA generated Planets don't exist.
The ROmans and Greeks worshipped the alleged Planets...God simply Created Earth.
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: ausGeoff on March 09, 2015, 05:58:04 AM
Einstein believed in aether.  So did Tesla.   

Is there any reason you constantly refer to 100-year-old science in support of your arguments jroa?  It might just be time to give some credence to 21st century science for a change?
Title: Re: Questions that might destroy your funny theory
Post by: LogicalKiller on March 09, 2015, 07:47:24 AM
All those fake NASA generated Planets don't exist.
The ROmans and Greeks worshipped the alleged Planets...God simply Created Earth.

God doesn't exist, farmer!