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Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 06, 2006, 08:05:11 PM
End of Discussion. (http://www.calacademy.org/products/pendulum/)

You have a cheap experiment, but I suggest you spend the $1.50 to go to a museum and observe the Foucault Pendulum for yourself.  I've spent the whole time I was here searching for this thing, for I remember watching it for three hours (I was five; it intrigued my undeveloped brain), and wondering how it swung back and forth AND rotated around.

By the way, that website explains it all.  If you don't believe it, make one yourself.

Case closed.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 06, 2006, 08:18:47 PM
Isn't it possible that the Earth is flat and spinning?

People actually have occasionally come up with experiments and arguments in the past that were unable to be refuted by the FEers but as you can see the forum is still going strong. :D  There is no reason, even if what you say is correct, which it probably isn't, to think that this would mean the end of the argument.  There is a never ending stream of REers ready to pit their skills of logic and reasoning against the veterans of this forum :).
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 06, 2006, 08:24:19 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Isn't it possible that the Earth is flat and spinning?

People actually have occasionally come up with experiments and arguments in the past that were unable to be refuted by the FEers but as you can see the forum is still going strong. :D  There is no reason, even if what you say is correct, which it probably isn't, to think that this would mean the end of the argument.  There is a never ending stream of REers ready to pit their skills of logic and reasoning against the veterans of this forum :).

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Quote from: "The website you should have read fully"
If the Pendulum was at the POLE

the floor would twist under the pendulum -- the building floor would twist around the earth's axis every 24 hours.  BUT -- it is clear that the pendulum --which doesn't twist-- would stay in its original plane.
...
If the Pendulum was at the EQUATOR

the building floor would not twist at all but the building would travel eastward on the earth's axis--and the pendulum--being tied to the building -- would travel right along with the building with no visible effect -- since there is no twisting motion.
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http://www.calacademy.org/products/pendulum/page14.htm
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 06, 2006, 08:26:53 PM
Unfortunately I neither live on the equator or at either poll.  If you want to pay for my flights to either then I would be willing to test these theories and see if that's really how the pendulum behaves or not.

Incidentally I love the d n b group Pendulum.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 06, 2006, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Unfortunately I neither live on the equator or at either poll...

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Quote from: "I"
but I suggest you spend the $1.50 to go to a museum and observe the Foucault Pendulum for yourself.


Quote from: "beast"
Incidentally I love the d n b group Pendulum.


You know, they're the reason it took so long; I tried searching for just "Pendulum" and they took up fifteen frickin' pages on Google ...
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 06, 2006, 08:36:25 PM
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.
Title: Poll Results
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 06, 2006, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: "The Poll"
Hey! I ordered a cheeseburger!        33%        [ 1 ]


ROTFLMAO.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: phaseshifter on November 06, 2006, 09:48:56 PM
Quote from: "beast"
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


Does Flat earth spin or rotate?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: woopedazz on November 07, 2006, 12:44:22 AM
gary larson kicks arse  :D
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 07, 2006, 04:46:18 AM
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
Quote from: "beast"
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


Does Flat earth spin or rotate?


I don't know - I asked if it did, I didn't say that it did either.  I asked if that could provide a FE consistent reason for the pendulum results.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 07, 2006, 09:21:44 AM
A great way to test this is to put two pendulums, one at one-fourths the distance between the two poles and another at three-fourths the aforementioned distance, and record the results.

In RE, They should follow the same displacement, but in a different direction.  In FE, the one closer to the North Pole should have a greater displacement over the same amount of time.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 07, 2006, 12:53:37 PM
Quote from: "The Poll"
Hey! I ordered a cheeseburger!   
      
 44%    [ 4 ]

Now it's just getting out of hand ...
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: phaseshifter on November 07, 2006, 01:42:01 PM
Nice job Bog. You just demonstrated that the earth is a cheeseburger order.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
Nice job Bog. You just demonstrated that the earth is a cheeseburger order.


I hope you don't mind if I put that in my signature, do you?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Cheech6 on November 08, 2006, 12:54:10 PM
Use the search button for "Pendulum = Gravity"

i made my points on this along time ago.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: TheEngineer on November 08, 2006, 12:55:32 PM
And you were wrong then too.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 12:56:42 PM
Quote from: "Cheech6"
Use the search button for "Pendulum = Gravity"

i made my points on this along time ago.


I've seen it; mine just specifies what kind of pendulum, and it's effects.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: phaseshifter on November 08, 2006, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
Quote from: "beast"
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


Does Flat earth spin or rotate?


I don't know - I asked if it did, I didn't say that it did either.  I asked if that could provide a FE consistent reason for the pendulum results.


We must first know wheter your earth spins or rotates before we can determine this. And WE can't tell you that since we don't beleive earth is flat, You should be the one telling us. If you don't know how your model  works, then you can't very well support it.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 08, 2006, 05:22:47 PM
Due to the oppressed nature of study of the flat Earth, it's very hard to know a great deal about it or to run studies with small budgets.  I'm afraid I don't know the full details of what the flat Earth is doing.  Maybe if I had billions of dollars and people working all around the world I could tell you.  I'm simply asking if the apparently observed phenomenon could be explained in the context of a flat Earth to show that it possible that the same observations could occur regardless of the shape of the earth.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 05:25:12 PM
Quote from: "beast"
... around the world ...

You just admitted that the world is round!

On a more serious note ...

Quote from: "beast"
I'm simply asking if the apparently observed phenomenon could be explained in the context of a flat Earth to show that it possible that the same observations could occur regardless of the shape of the earth.


I'm sure it could; anything can be "explained away", with the right kind of logic/reasoning.  I say give Erasmus an hour with the subject.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 08, 2006, 05:32:50 PM
Wouldn't that mean that your comment that the discussion was now over and that you've "proved" that the Earth is round is false?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 05:36:03 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Wouldn't that mean that your comment that the discussion was now over and that you've "proved" that the Earth is round is false?


Firstly, YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING (maybe if I say it enough times you people will start to believe me).

Secondly, I was stating what I expected.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 08, 2006, 05:44:53 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "beast"
Wouldn't that mean that your comment that the discussion was now over and that you've "proved" that the Earth is round is false?


Firstly, YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING (maybe if I say it enough times you people will start to believe me).



This is false.  You can prove plenty of things.  You can only prove them explicitly in a given context.  You can't prove that when you drop something it will always fall to the floor but you can easily prove that in a particular instance that's what it will do and does do.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 05:46:05 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "beast"
Wouldn't that mean that your comment that the discussion was now over and that you've "proved" that the Earth is round is false?


Firstly, YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING (maybe if I say it enough times you people will start to believe me).



This is false.  You can prove plenty of things.  You can only prove them explicitly in a given context.  You can't prove that when you drop something it will always fall to the floor but you can easily prove that in a particular instance that's what it will do and does do.


No, you can't; you ASSUME it will fall to the floor, but the future may prove to you that you are wrong.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 08, 2006, 05:49:26 PM
The oldest known proof for the statement that there are infinitely many prime numbers is given by the Greek mathematician Euclid in his Elements (Book IX, Proposition 20). Euclid states the result as "there are more than any given [finite] number of primes", and his proof is essentially the following:

Suppose you have a finite number of primes. Call this number m. Multiply all m primes together and add one (see Euclid number). The resulting number is not divisible by any of the finite set of primes, because dividing by any of these would give a remainder of one. And one is not divisible by any primes. Therefore it must either be prime itself, or be divisible by some other prime that was not included in the finite set. Either way, there must be at least m + 1 primes. But this argument applies no matter what m is; it applies to m + 1, too. So there are more primes than any given finite number.

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Within the given context that has clearly proved that in our mathematical system there is an infinite number of prime numbers.
Title: Re: The Death of it All
Post by: mikolaj_koppernigk=cojon on November 08, 2006, 05:54:37 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
End of Discussion. (http://www.calacademy.org/products/pendulum/)

You have a cheap experiment, but I suggest you spend the $1.50 to go to a museum and observe the Foucault Pendulum for yourself.  I've spent the whole time I was here searching for this thing, for I remember watching it for three hours (I was five; it intrigued my undeveloped brain), and wondering how it swung back and forth AND rotated around.

By the way, that website explains it all.  If you don't believe it, make one yourself.

Case closed.


i spent the last 20  years searching the contents oif my own pants and i can say with some authority



doh!
Title: Re: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: "mikolaj_koppernigk=cojon"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Stuff I said before ...


i spent the last 20  years searching the contents oif my own pants and i can say with some authority



doh!


Can you explain the relevance of this post?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: TheDerangedWang on November 08, 2006, 06:03:32 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Isn't it possible that the Earth is flat and spinning?

People actually have occasionally come up with experiments and arguments in the past that were unable to be refuted by the FEers but as you can see the forum is still going strong. :D  There is no reason, even if what you say is correct, which it probably isn't, to think that this would mean the end of the argument.  There is a never ending stream of REers ready to pit their skills of logic and reasoning against the veterans of this forum :).


That would be impossible, the centrifugal force from a spinning flat earth would force everything toward the edge, where he supposed ice wall is
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 06:05:08 PM
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
Quote from: "beast"
Isn't it possible that the Earth is flat and spinning?

People actually have occasionally come up with experiments and arguments in the past that were unable to be refuted by the FEers but as you can see the forum is still going strong. :D  There is no reason, even if what you say is correct, which it probably isn't, to think that this would mean the end of the argument.  There is a never ending stream of REers ready to pit their skills of logic and reasoning against the veterans of this forum :).


That would be impossible, the centrifugal force from a spinning flat earth would force everything toward the edge, where he supposed ice wall is


Centrifugal force is a lie. (http://www.xkcd.com/c123.html)
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 08, 2006, 06:05:24 PM
Only if it was spinning really fast - if it was a very slow spin it would be hardly noticeable.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: TheDerangedWang on November 08, 2006, 06:19:06 PM
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Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 06:23:47 PM
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
...ask him to prove centrifugal force is a lie...


CLICK ON IT.  It's a link for a reason.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: TheDerangedWang on November 08, 2006, 06:31:20 PM
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Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 08, 2006, 06:34:28 PM
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
...ask him to prove centrifugal force is a lie...


CLICK ON IT.  It's a link for a reason.


i did, i remain unconvinced despite the shockingly undeniable facts that my eyes are seeing. I refuse to believe anything you say is real and in fact assert that you are in fact a badger....prove me wrong..dude...its a cartoon


Cartoon or not, it's correct.  What you feel is your inertia; your "unwanting" to turn.  Centripetal force is what keeps you in circular motion, whether uniform or non-uniform.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 08, 2006, 06:34:32 PM
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
Quote from: "beast"
Only if it was spinning really fast - if it was a very slow spin it would be hardly noticeable.


Prove the earth is spinning slow....


I'm not saying that it's the case - just that it could be an alternative explanation for the results of the pendulum observations.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: TheDerangedWang on November 08, 2006, 06:37:39 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
Quote from: "beast"
Only if it was spinning really fast - if it was a very slow spin it would be hardly noticeable.


Prove the earth is spinning slow....


I'm not saying that it's the case - just that it could be an alternative explanation for the results of the pendulum observations.


ok, but what proof is there that that is even a possibility? Why search for an alternative when 1 solution fits pefectly???...why look for nuclear power when oil is oozing into your living room?..like the oil crisis now, alternate sources of energy only thrive when oil doesnt, alterante theories only arise whenone doest fit....in a re earth, it fits
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 08, 2006, 06:40:21 PM
But it was claimed to be definite proof that the Earth is round and clearly if an alternative theory exists then that's not the case.  I wasn't trying to show that it was likely alternative, just that this experiment doesn't achieve what it is claimed to achieve.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: EnragedPenguin on November 08, 2006, 06:44:59 PM
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
Why look for nuclear power when oil is oozing into your living room?


You don't need to look for nuclear power if oil is oozing into your living room. But you can't claim that oil is the only solution to the problem, just because it seems to fit.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: TheDerangedWang on November 09, 2006, 05:27:09 AM
Quote from: "EnragedPenguin"
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
Why look for nuclear power when oil is oozing into your living room?


You don't need to look for nuclear power if oil is oozing into your living room. But you can't claim that oil is the only solution to the problem, just because it seems to fit.


it doesnt seem to fit, it does fit, there isnt a problem that arises from the RE theory, compare that to an ice wall. There are many questions that confront the FE theory where FE's struggle to explain with unproven assumptions
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: EnragedPenguin on November 09, 2006, 07:31:44 AM
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
it doesnt seem to fit, it does fit, there isnt a problem that arises from the RE theory.


That, in and of itself, does not validate the theory.

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There are many questions that confront the FE theory where FE's struggle to explain with unproven assumptions


The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 09, 2006, 08:12:43 AM
Quote from: "EnragedPenguin"
Quote from: "TheDerangedWang"
it doesnt seem to fit, it does fit, there isnt a problem that arises from the RE theory.


That, in and of itself, does not validate the theory.


Correct, but that just means other, more contraversial issues will be the focus point of mainstream science, leaving FE and RE debates for people ...
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: phaseshifter on November 09, 2006, 09:50:32 AM
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The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.


Incorrect. I could give you several .

Satellites don't exist.
Scientists lie to us.
There's a conspiracy.
Nasa pictures are fake

etc. etc.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Erasmus on November 09, 2006, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
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The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.


Incorrect. I could give you several .

Satellites don't exist.
Scientists lie to us.
There's a conspiracy.
Nasa pictures are fake


At this point you're basically a liar.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 09, 2006, 10:49:07 AM
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
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The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.


Incorrect. I could give you several .

Satellites don't exist.
Scientists lie to us.
There's a conspiracy.
Nasa pictures are fake


At this point you're basically a liar.


I'm surprised you could decipher what either one was trying to say.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Space_Maze on November 09, 2006, 03:06:10 PM
Heh .. this is awesome.

Just today, in my university physics class, we did the Foucault pendulum experiment. Calculated the speed of its "turning" from out geographical latitude. Under the assumption that the earth is round :p .. and oddly enough, our calculations turned out to be correct - GEE, HOW DID THAT WORK???

And I was thinking .. geeze, I wonder what the FE crowd would say about all this ..  :roll:

Quote from: "beast"
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


It is, of course, possible that a flat earth was spinning.

It is NOT however possible though that the outside of a plate is spinning in the opposite direction that the inside of the plate is spinning in. If you do the experiment in the nothern hemisphere, it spins clockwise. In the southern hemisphere, it spins counter-clockwise.

Either everyone that's done a physics class in the southern hemisphere is lying .. or this is simply uncompatible with the flat earth "theory".
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 09, 2006, 03:53:42 PM
Quote from: "Space_Maze"
Heh .. this is awesome.

Just today, in my university physics class, we did the Foucault pendulum experiment. Calculated the speed of its "turning" from out geographical latitude. Under the assumption that the earth is round :p .. and oddly enough, our calculations turned out to be correct - GEE, HOW DID THAT WORK???

And I was thinking .. geeze, I wonder what the FE crowd would say about all this ..  :roll:

Quote from: "beast"
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


It is, of course, possible that a flat earth was spinning.

It is NOT however possible though that the outside of a plate is spinning in the opposite direction that the inside of the plate is spinning in. If you do the experiment in the nothern hemisphere, it spins clockwise. In the southern hemisphere, it spins counter-clockwise.

Either everyone that's done a physics class in the southern hemisphere is lying .. or this is simply uncompatible with the flat earth "theory".


Or maybe everybody in the Northern Hemisphere is lying.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: phaseshifter on November 09, 2006, 08:46:22 PM
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "Space_Maze"
Heh .. this is awesome.

Just today, in my university physics class, we did the Foucault pendulum experiment. Calculated the speed of its "turning" from out geographical latitude. Under the assumption that the earth is round :p .. and oddly enough, our calculations turned out to be correct - GEE, HOW DID THAT WORK???

And I was thinking .. geeze, I wonder what the FE crowd would say about all this ..  :roll:

Quote from: "beast"
And I'm asking - isn't it possible that you could get similar results if the flat Earth was spinning - maybe even spinning and rotating.  Obviously only enough that it would change how a pendulum spins but not so it would send us flying off into space because that's what we observe.


It is, of course, possible that a flat earth was spinning.

It is NOT however possible though that the outside of a plate is spinning in the opposite direction that the inside of the plate is spinning in. If you do the experiment in the nothern hemisphere, it spins clockwise. In the southern hemisphere, it spins counter-clockwise.

Either everyone that's done a physics class in the southern hemisphere is lying .. or this is simply uncompatible with the flat earth "theory".


Or maybe everybody in the Northern Hemisphere is lying.


Is that sarcasm?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 09, 2006, 09:04:45 PM
I just don't like the suggestion that it's the Southern Hemisphere people who are liars and not the Northern Hemisphere people.  From my perspective, I'd be much more prepared to believe that the Northern Hemisphere people are liars than the Southern.

People from the Northern Hemisphere:

Hitler, George W Bush, Stalin, PETA, Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein.

People from the Southern Hemisphere:

David Boon, Bob Hawke, Nelson Mandela, Pele.

I rest my case.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: TheEngineer on November 09, 2006, 09:29:27 PM
There's only like 25 people in the entire 'southern hemisphere', so that's not exactly a fair comparison.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: phaseshifter on November 09, 2006, 09:31:35 PM
Quote from: "beast"
I just don't like the suggestion that it's the Southern Hemisphere people who are liars and not the Northern Hemisphere people.  From my perspective, I'd be much more prepared to believe that the Northern Hemisphere people are liars than the Southern.

People from the Northern Hemisphere:

Hitler, George W Bush, Stalin, PETA, Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein.

People from the Southern Hemisphere:

David Boon, Bob Hawke, Nelson Mandela, Pele.

I rest my case.


Why does there have to BE any liars?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 09, 2006, 09:45:47 PM
There doesn't - but if there were - it would be those from the Northern Hemisphere.   FACT.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Knight on November 09, 2006, 09:55:06 PM
Jesus was from the northern hemisphere.  I rest my case.

P.S. Jesus outweighs anything good from the Southern Hemisphere :-)
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 09, 2006, 10:02:34 PM
Only if you believe fictitious stories and refuse to accept reason and logic.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 09, 2006, 11:04:41 PM
Regions have nothing to do with lying.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 10, 2006, 02:34:07 AM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Regions have nothing to do with lying.


Yes they do.  Religion is lies.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Space_Maze on November 10, 2006, 07:38:06 AM
Quote from: "beast"
I just don't like the suggestion that it's the Southern Hemisphere people who are liars and not the Northern Hemisphere people.  From my perspective, I'd be much more prepared to believe that the Northern Hemisphere people are liars than the Southern.


But I wasn't suggesting that everyone in the southern hemisphere is lying. I was suggesting that FE "theory" is a great load of bollocks.

If you still continue to insist on a flat earth, it is the only option that remains open though. I know for a fact that everybody in the northern hemisphere is not lying, as I have executed this experiment myself - in the northern hemisphere. The pendulum turns clockwise.

I have yet to execute the experiment in the southern hemisphere.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Masterchef on November 10, 2006, 08:12:20 AM
Quote from: "beast"
There doesn't - but if there were - it would be those from the Northern Hemisphere.   FACT.

No, SPECULATION.

There is no way anyone would be able to convince the entire northern hemisphere to lie.

Quote from: "beast"
Yes they do.  Religion is lies.

That we can agree on.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Nomad on November 10, 2006, 08:27:49 AM
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Regions have nothing to do with lying.


Yes they do.  Religion is lies.


Dyslexia much?  Region != Religion
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 10, 2006, 09:27:40 AM
Quote from: "thedigitalnomad"
Quote from: "beast"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Regions have nothing to do with lying.


Yes they do.  Religion is lies.


Dyslexia much?  Region != Religion


It would be scary if it did ...
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: beast on November 10, 2006, 03:27:39 PM
I'm sorry that was a bad joke.  You said that "Regions" have nothing to do with lies and since "Regions" makes up 78% of "Religion" (in terms of letters) - I was trying to infer that Region did have something to do with lies (because it's so similar to religion).  Pretty silly comment :P
Title: Re: The Death of it All
Post by: mikolaj_koppernigk=cojon on November 19, 2006, 03:08:49 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "mikolaj_koppernigk=cojon"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Stuff I said before ...


i spent the last 20  years searching the contents oif my own pants and i can say with some authority



doh!


Can you explain the relevance of this post?

Yes!
Title: Re: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 26, 2006, 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: "mikolaj_koppernigk=cojon"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "mikolaj_koppernigk=cojon"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Stuff I said before ...


i spent the last 20  years searching the contents oif my own pants and i can say with some authority



doh!


Can you explain the relevance of this post?

Yes!


You are no longer worth the trouble.  Have a nice day!   :D
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: midgard on November 27, 2006, 02:51:11 AM
Quote from: "beast"
Only if you believe fictitious stories and refuse to accept reason and logic.


I thought that was what this website was all about beast.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 09:15:41 AM
Quote from: "Erasmus"
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The only assumption any of our explanations make, is that Earth is flat.


Incorrect. I could give you several .

Satellites don't exist.
Scientists lie to us.
There's a conspiracy.
Nasa pictures are fake


At this point you're basically a liar.


How is he a lair? Are you saying that there is solid evidence of the non-existence of sattelites, that scientists lie to us, that there's a conspiracy and that NASA pics are fake. Please share it with us.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 10:20:54 AM
Quote from: "dantheman40k"


How is he a lair? Are you saying that there is solid evidence of the non-existence of sattelites, that scientists lie to us, that there's a conspiracy and that NASA pics are fake. Please share it with us.


He's lying because half the things he listed are not part of the FE theory, and even if they were would not be assumptions.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 10:23:46 AM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Quote from: "dantheman40k"


How is he a lair? Are you saying that there is solid evidence of the non-existence of sattelites, that scientists lie to us, that there's a conspiracy and that NASA pics are fake. Please share it with us.


He's lying because half the things he listed are not part of the FE theory, and even if they were would not be assumptions.


So you know for a fact that the earth is flat and that sattelites dont exist and there is a conspiracy ect ect?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: "dantheman40k"


So you know for a fact that the earth is flat


As Erasmus said, this is the single assumption the FE theory makes.

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and that sattelites dont exist ...

No one ever said that satellites don't exist. They just don't exist in the capacity you believe them to.
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and there is a conspiracy ect ect?

No, we have no direct evidence. That does not make them assumptions though.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"

No one ever said that satellites don't exist. They just don't exist in the capacity you believe them to.

Wrong!

Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?"

A1: They don't, satellite signals come from radio towers.


http://geoguy.justgotowned.com
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Erasmus on November 27, 2006, 10:34:14 AM
GeoGuy is exactly right.  Starting from the assumption that the Earth is flat, it is fairly straightforward to conclude that scientists are lying to us and that the pictures are fake.  Those things aren't assumptions.  This has been stated so many times that anybody who claims otherwise is probably lying.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 10:36:01 AM
Quote from: dantheman40k
Quote from: "GeoGuy"

No one ever said that satellites don't exist. They just don't exist in the capacity you believe them to.

Wrong!

Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?"

A1: They don't, satellite signals come from radio towers.


Meaning that what you call "satellites" are actually radio towers. Meaning "satellites" exist.

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http://geoguy.justgotowned.com


Your link is broken.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: "Erasmus"
GeoGuy is exactly right.  Starting from the assumption that the Earth is flat, it is fairly straightforward to conclude that scientists are lying to us and that the pictures are fake.  Those things aren't assumptions.  This has been stated so many times that anybody who claims otherwise is probably lying.


OK, what is the flat earth assumption based on?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 10:41:32 AM
Quote from: "dantheman40k"


OK, what is the flat earth assumption based on?


Earth... being flat?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: GeoGuy
Quote from: "dantheman40k"
Quote from: "GeoGuy"

No one ever said that satellites don't exist. They just don't exist in the capacity you believe them to.

Wrong!

Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?"

A1: They don't, satellite signals come from radio towers.


Meaning that what you call "satellites" are actually radio towers. Meaning "satellites" exist.
No, if what you say is true *dirisive snort*then only Radio Towers exist, not sattelites.
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http://geoguy.justgotowned.com


Your link is broken.


It worked just fine for me.  :D

But I'll post it a second time just for you :wink:

http://geoguy.justgotowned.com
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 10:45:46 AM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Quote from: "dantheman40k"


OK, what is the flat earth assumption based on?


Earth... being flat?


OK, what evidence is the flat earth assumption based on?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: "dantheman40k"

OK, what evidence is the flat earth assumption based on?


The observation that Earth appears flat when viewed from any elevation.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Quote from: "dantheman40k"

OK, what evidence is the flat earth assumption based on?


The observation that Earth appears flat when viewed from any elevation.


Now we're getting somewhere. OK, what about those fighter pilots who travel high into the atmosphere and see the curveture of the earth?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 10:56:43 AM
Quote from: "dantheman40k"


Now we're getting somewhere. OK, what about those fighter pilots who travel high into the atmosphere and see the curveture of the earth?


Having never been in a high flying jet, and having observed no curvature from any airplane I've ever been in, I doubt there is any curvature visible to those pilots. Even on a round Earth.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Quote from: "dantheman40k"


Now we're getting somewhere. OK, what about those fighter pilots who travel high into the atmosphere and see the curveture of the earth?


Having never been in a high flying jet, and having observed no curvature from any airplane I've ever been in, I doubt there is any curvature visible to those pilots. Even on a round Earth.


Ever seen an eclipse?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 11:05:53 AM
None that I remember, no.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 27, 2006, 11:08:47 AM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
None that I remember, no.


Do you agree that there is no substantial explaination for eclipses in FE?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: GeoGuy on November 27, 2006, 11:12:24 AM
Quote from: "dantheman40k"

Do you agree that there is no substantial explaination for eclipses in FE?


None that I've seen thus far, yes. That doesn't mean there isn't one, however.
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: Erasmus on November 27, 2006, 12:16:01 PM
Quote from: "dantheman40k"
Now we're getting somewhere. OK, what about those fighter pilots who travel high into the atmosphere and see the curveture of the earth?


We don't trust the civilian government and you expect us to trust the military?
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on November 27, 2006, 08:49:07 PM
Threadjacked.  :cry:
Title: The Death of it All
Post by: dantheman40k on November 28, 2006, 01:05:39 AM
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Quote from: "dantheman40k"
Now we're getting somewhere. OK, what about those fighter pilots who travel high into the atmosphere and see the curveture of the earth?


We don't trust the civilian government and you expect us to trust the military?


You dont trust scientists but you trust a 100 year old book?