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Title: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RoundEarths on May 01, 2014, 07:37:56 PM
So if people on this board are so committed to the FE why dont they just infiltrate Nasa to find out the truth? or why hasn't a single researcher or Astronaut from any country come forward to reveal the conspiracy and possibly make millions of dollars.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 01, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
There are already plenty of NASA whistle blowers out there.  Do a search on youtube. 

I am probably already on NASAs watch list.  Why would they hire me, other than to execute a trap? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 01, 2014, 07:50:45 PM
There are already plenty of NASA whistle blowers out there.  Do a search on youtube. 

I am probably already on NASAs watch list.  Why would they hire me, other than to execute a trap?
Would it be easier to rid of all the FE'ers? Isn't that what the CIA does.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RoundEarths on May 01, 2014, 07:52:26 PM
Ive looked, almost all had no paperwork to back their claims. The rest had no credible information
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 01, 2014, 07:54:10 PM
Ive looked, almost all had no paperwork to back their claims. The rest had no credible information
With that said if the FE had credibly they surely would rid of them.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RoundEarths on May 01, 2014, 08:02:12 PM
The amount of resources and people needed to fake space walks from all nations is no easy feat. And your telling me not one of them leaks credible information. Hogwash. If the Russians could manage a leak on the Manhattan project then NASA should be even more vulnerable.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 01, 2014, 08:04:22 PM
Some nations are simply better at the charade.  Have you seen the Chinese attempt? 

China's Space Walk Was FAKE (part 1) (http://#)
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 01, 2014, 08:05:32 PM
Those people are violent and cruel.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 01, 2014, 08:08:01 PM
And, they are very new to the space industry.  They would have done better if they started during the black and white times so that they could have had time to perfect the fakery before color video was standard. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RoundEarths on May 01, 2014, 08:30:55 PM
if they were in a water practice tank, they wouldn't rise up if they let go because in practice water tanks, their suits are adjusted for buoyancy so if they let go, they would stay where they were, plus, the US had MMU backpacks that alows them to free float, the chinese didn't, hence they held on, IN SPACE :)

saw that comment on there, how accurate do you guys think it is? China may not be the best but they arent stupid enough to keep a bubble if they faked it. And why would they fake it? they could show how America has lied to the world but using a satellite to find your ice wall :3
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 02, 2014, 02:05:35 AM
There are already plenty of NASA whistle blowers out there.  Do a search on youtube. 

I am probably already on NASAs watch list.  Why would they hire me, other than to execute a trap?
Please give me a single name. A whistle blower is not a conspiracy theorist, he is someone who is inside the organization, telling us the outsiders about it.

There are some whistle blowers who talk about inefficient or dangerous practices in NASA, but not even one saying that the shuttles do not orbit the Earth.

All in all, your claim is pure bull excrement. The only lists you probably are in are not hit lists of any kind. They are more like spam lists.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 04:15:50 AM
Please give me a single name.

Mathew Boylan.  There used to be a good interview of him on youtube, but it is no longer available.  Here is a lecture of his.  He mentions his work with NASA briefly around 2:40 into the video in case you don't have time to watch the whole thing. 

Flat earth conspiracy wikileaks nasa (http://#)
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 02, 2014, 04:35:43 AM
He is about as credible as our town fool. Which department of NASA did he work. He says he was a NASA man. What is that?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 04:46:16 AM
He was a contractor who did work for the graphics department.  He explains it all in that interview I mentioned earlier. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RandomREalist on May 02, 2014, 04:47:22 AM
Please give me a single name.

Mathew Boylan.  There used to be a good interview of him on youtube, but it is no longer available.  Here is a lecture of his.  He mentions his work with NASA briefly around 2:40 into the video in case you don't have time to watch the whole thing. 

Flat earth conspiracy wikileaks nasa (http://#)



    Category

    Comedy
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    Standard YouTube License

Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 04:58:54 AM
Who cares what license he used? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RandomREalist on May 02, 2014, 05:00:56 AM
Who cares what license he used?

Way to skip over the important part, i.e. COMEDY
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 05:53:20 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 02, 2014, 06:00:56 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
It make all the difference. Anybody can tell stories and make claims for attention.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 02, 2014, 06:03:28 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
This is stupid, insulting trolling. Not only is he NOT an insider, but he is not even making a CLAIM, whatsoever.

Now I remember why I stayed away from this forum. Even in its lunacy, when TheEngineer and others were participating you got something to discuss. But now, this is what you get.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: sceptimatic on May 02, 2014, 06:07:26 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
This is stupid, insulting trolling. Not only is he NOT an insider, but he is not even making a CLAIM, whatsoever.

Now I remember why I stayed away from this forum. Even in its lunacy, when TheEngineer and others were participating you got something to discuss. But now, this is what you get.
You people stop the discussion, not the other way around.
When someone gives you something you ask for, you go into immediate denial and say it's not credible, then you start moaning like babies.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 02, 2014, 06:15:42 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
This is stupid, insulting trolling. Not only is he NOT an insider, but he is not even making a CLAIM, whatsoever.

Now I remember why I stayed away from this forum. Even in its lunacy, when TheEngineer and others were participating you got something to discuss. But now, this is what you get.
You people stop the discussion, not the other way around.
When someone gives you something you ask for, you go into immediate denial and say it's not credible, then you start moaning like babies.
We wanted someone credible not a loony tune guy. Get real.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RandomREalist on May 02, 2014, 06:20:09 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.

Because the person posting it, is the one that categorizes it. So if even the person that uploaded the video thinks it's a joke, it's probably a freakin-wait for it- JOKE
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: bravimone on May 02, 2014, 06:20:36 AM
Why is this guy more credible than the million of scientists who don't agree with him? Why can't he be lying to try gaining some attention? Because he says what you want to hear, that's why.
What's more probable, a lonely guy lying or a global conspiracy involving millions of people all lying?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: sceptimatic on May 02, 2014, 06:29:01 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
This is stupid, insulting trolling. Not only is he NOT an insider, but he is not even making a CLAIM, whatsoever.

Now I remember why I stayed away from this forum. Even in its lunacy, when TheEngineer and others were participating you got something to discuss. But now, this is what you get.
You people stop the discussion, not the other way around.
When someone gives you something you ask for, you go into immediate denial and say it's not credible, then you start moaning like babies.
We wanted someone credible not a loony tune guy. Get real.
If 100 people were put forward who weren't mainstream, they would not be credible and be cast off as loons, so behave yourself.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 02, 2014, 06:30:48 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
This is stupid, insulting trolling. Not only is he NOT an insider, but he is not even making a CLAIM, whatsoever.

Now I remember why I stayed away from this forum. Even in its lunacy, when TheEngineer and others were participating you got something to discuss. But now, this is what you get.
You people stop the discussion, not the other way around.
When someone gives you something you ask for, you go into immediate denial and say it's not credible, then you start moaning like babies.
We wanted someone credible not a loony tune guy. Get real.
If 100 people were put forward who weren't mainstream, they would not be credible and be cast off as loons, so behave yourself.
We are not talking about 100 people. Just this one guy.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: sceptimatic on May 02, 2014, 06:31:29 AM
Why is this guy more credible than the million of scientists who don't agree with him? Why can't he be lying to try gaining some attention? Because he says what you want to hear, that's why.
What's more probable, a lonely guy lying or a global conspiracy involving millions of people all lying?
Stop going on about millions of people lying. Millions of people are being naive, not lying. They believe they are being truthful because that's how they were taught.

A scientist is a skin and bone person like you. You're as naive as hell and think you're a scientist, so what's different about the rest of them?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: sceptimatic on May 02, 2014, 06:35:36 AM
What difference does it make?  It could be licensed as a Greek Tragedy and it would not change the message.
This is stupid, insulting trolling. Not only is he NOT an insider, but he is not even making a CLAIM, whatsoever.

Now I remember why I stayed away from this forum. Even in its lunacy, when TheEngineer and others were participating you got something to discuss. But now, this is what you get.
You people stop the discussion, not the other way around.
When someone gives you something you ask for, you go into immediate denial and say it's not credible, then you start moaning like babies.
We wanted someone credible not a loony tune guy. Get real.
If 100 people were put forward who weren't mainstream, they would not be credible and be cast off as loons, so behave yourself.
We are not talking about 100 people. Just this one guy.
What about him? Because he mocks the lies, he's not credible?
Let me tell you something about the mindset of clowns like you.
If a sensible person who was a pillar of society and a very calm, clear headed person questioned one thing about what you people believe in, he suddenly becomes unstable and not fit to father children. That's the type of crap people have to deal with with people like you.

You have all proved it with th3rmom3t3ro. He was sane whilst he was arguing with you. Now he's a crazy lunatic because he's questioning it all.
 ::)
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 06:45:30 AM
Starman, I did not realize you were a psychiatrist and you had the ability to diagnose someone as "loony" based on a 45 minute lecture. 

I was asked to provide one name which I did.  Next thing I know, I am being insulted as not being as good at FET as TheEngineer, what ever that means, and all you can do to refute his claims of being a NASA whistle-blower is to call him a loony and question the licensing of the video.  WTF is going on here?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: bravimone on May 02, 2014, 06:59:41 AM
Stop going on about millions of people lying. Millions of people are being naive, not lying. They believe they are being truthful because that's how they were taught.

A scientist is a skin and bone person like you. You're as naive as hell and think you're a scientist, so what's different about the rest of them?

I'm not a scientist, but no. Every astronomer deals with the fact that the earth is round every day; If the Earth was flat he would find out immediately. Every airline pilot does the same. Every cartographer does the same. Every geologist does the same. Every metheorologist does the same. Every rocket scientist does the same. I could go on, but I think i made my point.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 07:04:57 AM
Everyone you listed believes that light goes in straight lines.  That is probably why they all assume the Earth is round. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: bravimone on May 02, 2014, 08:54:07 AM
How does the fact that cartographers cannot map the known geography of the earth to a flat plan relate to how the light works?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 08:56:19 AM
Cartographers do not use light now? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: bravimone on May 02, 2014, 09:25:43 AM
Not sure what you mean. It's a geometric problem, not a physical one.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 09:34:07 AM
Do cartographers use light to cartograph? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: bravimone on May 02, 2014, 09:46:19 AM
Usually, i guess. Not sure if you're pretending to not see the point or if you really don't see it. The geometry of the earth cannot be mapped into a plane without deforming it, light doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 10:03:12 AM
I think you are mistaken.  If the Earth is round, it can not be made into a plane without distorting it unless light is bending.   
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: inquisitive on May 02, 2014, 10:08:18 AM
I think you are mistaken.  If the Earth is round, it can not be made into a plane without distorting it unless light is bending.
As you know they use projections.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 10:09:08 AM
How does that go against what I said? ???
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: bravimone on May 02, 2014, 10:32:28 AM
What does light have anything to do with it? It's an abstract geometric problem. A sphere cannot be mapped into a plane, even if you're blind.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 02, 2014, 11:04:25 AM
Starman, I did not realize you were a psychiatrist and you had the ability to diagnose someone as "loony" based on a 45 minute lecture. 

I was asked to provide one name which I did.  Next thing I know, I am being insulted as not being as good at FET as TheEngineer, what ever that means, and all you can do to refute his claims of being a NASA whistle-blower is to call him a loony and question the licensing of the video.  WTF is going on here?
So, now a comedy show presented by an acknowledged stand-up comedian is a LECTURE?

You were not asked for one name. You were asked for the name of one whistle blower.

Or should I accept that String Theory is dead because Sheldon Cooper, the fictional character in another comedy, says it is so?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 04:49:01 PM
Are you saying that Dr. William Henry (Bill) Cosby Jr. could never have given a serious lecture or presentation simply because he was also a comedian? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 02, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
Are you saying that Dr. William Henry (Bill) Cosby Jr. could never have given a serious lecture or presentation simply because he was also a comedian?
I am saying that a comedian, when doing comedy, is explicitly staying away from the requirements of veracity that non-fiction works have. He or she can use sarcasm, invent totally fictional stories with real life people in them, or just about anything that a reasonable person would consider artistic freedom.

Whatever you consider a serious message or an attempt at a joke in Bill Cosby's comedies, that is up to you. That is called "artistic freedom". If he ever did any lectures in his capacity as honorary Doctor in Education, he surely was evaluated in that capacity, and the lecture was clearly publicized as such.

On the other hand, you are showing all of us that you are willing to take comedy as a lecture. And you are willing to take anyone who never worked for NASA as a NASA insider. This speaks volumes about your intellectual laziness.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 07:11:25 PM
You are assuming that it is a comedy routine simply because it goes against your view of the world.  Did you even watch the video?  He brings up many valid points.  Yes, he slips in a joke once in a while, as anyone who wants to keep the attention of his audience would, but for the most part, he is being serious and the audience is taking him seriously. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 02, 2014, 08:22:46 PM
You are assuming that it is a comedy routine simply because it goes against your view of the world.  Did you even watch the video?  He brings up many valid points.  Yes, he slips in a joke once in a while, as anyone who wants to keep the attention of his audience would, but for the most part, he is being serious and the audience is taking him seriously.
In the video he is presented as "Math Boylan, Hyper Realist Artist". and he is literally presented as "one of the best comics I have ever met in my life". There are lots of explicit mentions to him as a comedian and some to this show as a "show" and a comedy routine. There is not one reference to him as a researcher of anything, or as an engineer. Not even a mention to him as a technician of any kind. He is a graphic artist and a comedian.

And quite frankly, the only indication the audience is giving towards seriousness is due to the poor quality of many jokes, like the ones about Hawking's problems with communication.

Again, this whole thread only shows your lack of capacity or inclination towards making a scientifically sound argument.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 02, 2014, 09:30:31 PM
He made no outrageous claims about his employment.  In fact, he does not even claim to have been an actual NASA employee.  He only claims to be an Artist and that he was contracted by NASA periodically to do Artwork for them over a period of 8 years.  If he was simply making something up for comedy reasons, would it not make sense for him to have claimed that he was the Chief Engineer for Research or something? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 03, 2014, 03:33:59 AM
He made no outrageous claims about his employment.  In fact, he does not even claim to have been an actual NASA employee.  He only claims to be an Artist and that he was contracted by NASA periodically to do Artwork for them over a period of 8 years.  If he was simply making something up for comedy reasons, would it not make sense for him to have claimed that he was the Chief Engineer for Research or something?
Math Boylan is making no outrageous claims whatsoever. He is doing some comedy. He is being presented as a comedian. He is clearly and explicitly stating that his work for NASA consists in doing graphics.

You, on the other hand, are making one outrageous claim after another. You are the only one in this planet claiming that Math Boylan is doing something other than artistic work. You are the only one in this planet who claims Math Boylan is some kind of insider with respect to NASA. You are the only one in this planet who believes there is a reason for Math Boylan to hide his expertise in anything whatsoever.

Since he is doing comedy, he can declare himself whatever he wants to. He can declare himself "King of the Universe", or "Lowlier than an Amoeba", or whatever else he can come up with. Only delusional people, like you try to show yourself to be, find in his not inventing an engineering degree a claim to something.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 04:07:59 AM
Are you ever going to substantiate anything you say?  All you are basically saying is, "He's a comedian so it must be a joke."  A must equal B and there can be no other options, right?  Well, guess what, comedians do not just tell jokes all day long.  They have serious lives as well.

I bet you put your finders in your ears while reading my post and say LALALA, don't you?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RandomREalist on May 03, 2014, 04:30:33 AM
Are you ever going to substantiate anything you say?  All you are basically saying is, "He's a comedian so it must be a joke."  A must equal B and there can be no other options, right?  Well, guess what, comedians do not just tell jokes all day long.  They have serious lives as well.

I bet you put your finders in your ears while reading my post and say LALALA, don't you?

A) (He claims to be a comedian) + B (The video refers to him multiple times as a comedian) + C(He's an artist, no matter how hyper realist, it is still art, which is be default, not reality) + D( the video is categorized as a comedy, by the uploader) + E(He's a comedian, so the likely hood hof the story about "listening to some NASA scientists" could very well be made up for the joke) +...(whatever else we want to throw on here) = z(Not likely to be s "serious" lecture)
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 03, 2014, 04:34:05 AM
Are you ever going to substantiate anything you say?  All you are basically saying is, "He's a comedian so it must be a joke."  A must equal B and there can be no other options, right?  Well, guess what, comedians do not just tell jokes all day long.  They have serious lives as well.

I bet you put your finders in your ears while reading my post and say LALALA, don't you?
What I am saying is simple. When a comedian is doing comedy, he is making jokes. When a comedian is not doing comedy, he is not, in general, making jokes. When someone like you is trying to look dumb and taking a comedian's jokes seriously, he deserves the title of "Town Fool" that others in this thread have placed on you.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 05:00:30 AM
This is Math Boylan doing doing comedy.  Notice how he is not trying to prove we are being lied to and people are laughing hysterically.

math boylan stand's up to nonsense (http://#ws)

He understands how comedy works.  You tell a short joke, make some noises, and drunk people laugh at you.  It is completely different from the first video I posted.

I tried to find the video of him lecturing in a college auditorium, but it is gone too.  Now, this video along with his two interview videos are missing.  Makes me wonder if someone from NASA found out about them.  They were there in March. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 03, 2014, 05:21:59 AM
This is Math Boylan doing doing comedy.  Notice how he is not trying to prove we are being lied to and people are laughing hysterically.

He understands how comedy works.  You tell a short joke, make some noises, and drunk people laugh at you.  It is completely different from the first video I posted.

I tried to find the video of him lecturing in a college auditorium, but it is gone too.  Now, this video along with his two interview videos are missing.  Makes me wonder if someone from NASA found out about them.  They were there in March.
Care to explain why in both occasions he is using the same jacket, the one who nobody would use in any kind of serious presentation?

Who says Math Boylan has ever done a serious presentation? You are the only one in this planet who does. And who is saying that the lost interviews were serious? Only you do. They must be right by your tin foil hat. My suggestion is: put the hat on, check the interviews without any alien controlling your mind, and report back to us.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 05:30:02 AM
Why would you even care what jacket he is wearing?  He could be in his underpants and the distinction between being funny and being serious is the same.  You are the only one on this planet who would associate wearing the same jacket to doing the same job.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RandomREalist on May 03, 2014, 06:34:30 AM
Why would you even care what jacket he is wearing?  He could be in his underpants and the distinction between being funny and being serious is the same.  You are the only one on this planet who would associate wearing the same jacket to doing the same job.

Only conspiracy theorists would take someone standing in their underpants on a stage seriously.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: sceptimatic on May 03, 2014, 06:49:46 AM
Why would you even care what jacket he is wearing?  He could be in his underpants and the distinction between being funny and being serious is the same.  You are the only one on this planet who would associate wearing the same jacket to doing the same job.

Only conspiracy theorists would take someone standing in their underpants on a stage seriously.
Are you sure it's only conspiracy theorists?
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5708/em0o.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/em0o.jpg/)

Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 03, 2014, 06:54:19 AM
Why would you even care what jacket he is wearing?  He could be in his underpants and the distinction between being funny and being serious is the same.  You are the only one on this planet who would associate wearing the same jacket to doing the same job.

Only conspiracy theorists would take someone standing in their underpants on a stage seriously.
Are you sure it's only conspiracy theorists?
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5708/em0o.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/em0o.jpg/)
DUDE....
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 03, 2014, 07:35:13 AM
Why would you even care what jacket he is wearing?  He could be in his underpants and the distinction between being funny and being serious is the same.  You are the only one on this planet who would associate wearing the same jacket to doing the same job.
It is very simple for you to show you don't really need the tin foil hat. Show us another person with a similar jacket in a serious presentation. If nobody does the same distinction I do, it is very simple.

We are all still waiting for you to show Math Boyler doing anything other than comedy or graphical art. You have not even shown us why you chose him as an example of a whistle blower inside NASA.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RandomREalist on May 03, 2014, 07:42:29 AM
Why would you even care what jacket he is wearing?  He could be in his underpants and the distinction between being funny and being serious is the same.  You are the only one on this planet who would associate wearing the same jacket to doing the same job.

Only conspiracy theorists would take someone standing in their underpants on a stage seriously.
Are you sure it's only conspiracy theorists?
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5708/em0o.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/em0o.jpg/)

He's still got his jeans on, even if he's sagging with einstein's head on his shoulders
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 08:59:37 AM
We are all still waiting for you to show Math Boyler doing anything other than comedy or graphical art. You have not even shown us why you chose him as an example of a whistle blower inside NASA.

Does your back ever get tired from moving the goal posts so often?  Well, here is one where he is neither doing art, nor is he performing in front of people.  He sounds pretty serious, although a little drunk.

Flat earth debate open you brainwashed minds eye (http://#)
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 03, 2014, 11:33:50 AM
This is the original goalpost:
There are already plenty of NASA whistle blowers out there.  Do a search on youtube. 

I am probably already on NASAs watch list.  Why would they hire me, other than to execute a trap?
Please give me a single name. A whistle blower is not a conspiracy theorist, he is someone who is inside the organization, telling us the outsiders about it.

There are some whistle blowers who talk about inefficient or dangerous practices in NASA, but not even one saying that the shuttles do not orbit the Earth.

All in all, your claim is pure bull excrement. The only lists you probably are in are not hit lists of any kind. They are more like spam lists.
... and this is the final goalpost ...
We are all still waiting for you to show Math Boyler doing anything other than comedy or graphical art. You have not even shown us why you chose him as an example of a whistle blower inside NASA.

You set the goalpost yourself, claiming that there are plenty of whistle blowers inside NASA and you, yourself found exactly zero whistle blowers. In fact, you are the one who wants to move the goalposts to the point where an outsider who has done some graphics is considered by you as an insider.

Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on May 03, 2014, 11:45:12 AM
We are all still waiting for you to show Math Boyler doing anything other than comedy or graphical art. You have not even shown us why you chose him as an example of a whistle blower inside NASA.

Does your back ever get tired from moving the goal posts so often?  Well, here is one where he is neither doing art, nor is he performing in front of people.  He sounds pretty serious, although a little drunk.

Flat earth debate open you brainwashed minds eye (http://#)
I'm starting to think that that's you, jroa.  ;D
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 11:49:37 AM
You set the goalpost yourself, claiming that there are plenty of whistle blowers inside NASA and you, yourself found exactly zero whistle blowers. In fact, you are the one who wants to move the goalposts to the point where an outsider who has done some graphics is considered by you as an insider.



He is not an outsider.  He worked as a contractor for years, then was actively recruited to become a full time employee, but never accepted.  He was friends with many people in NASA.  While he did not have a security clearance, he was, on several occasions, made privy to information about NASA secrets.  He knows the artwork that he has done for them.  He never made claims like, "I know the space ship is fake."  He simply shares what he knows, and yes, he does sometimes make assumptions and speculations.  However, he knows what he knows, and you are trying to discredit him simply by implying that we can not believe comedians.  His comedy shows are obviously, and starkly, different from his serious speeches. 

I'm starting to think that that's you, jroa.  ;D

 ;)
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on May 03, 2014, 11:59:15 AM
;)
At any rate, you must not underestimate the reach and ruthless power of the satanist globularists.
Stay safe.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 03, 2014, 02:06:29 PM
You set the goalpost yourself, claiming that there are plenty of whistle blowers inside NASA and you, yourself found exactly zero whistle blowers. In fact, you are the one who wants to move the goalposts to the point where an outsider who has done some graphics is considered by you as an insider.



He is not an outsider.  He worked as a contractor for years, then was actively recruited to become a full time employee, but never accepted.  He was friends with many people in NASA.  While he did not have a security clearance, he was, on several occasions, made privy to information about NASA secrets.  He knows the artwork that he has done for them.  He never made claims like, "I know the space ship is fake."  He simply shares what he knows, and yes, he does sometimes make assumptions and speculations.  However, he knows what he knows, and you are trying to discredit him simply by implying that we can not believe comedians.  His comedy shows are obviously, and starkly, different from his serious speeches. 

So, if you claim "he was, on several occasions, made privy to information about NASA secrets", then you have some kind of evidence of this. At the very least, you have the information of someone who talked with Math Boyler and knew which secrets he was made privy of.

Or, more probably, you just made this whole post up out of thin air. You do not know Math Boyler personally, you have not talked to him, you have no reason whatsoever to believe he knows more than what any graphic artist knows. If you did have any information on Math Boyler beyond what a Google search shows, you would at the very least know where to find the missing interviews.

And even if Math Boyler did believe anything you believe in, you have not given evidence of a single reason why Math Boyler would know more than anyone on the street about NASA.

A claim that somebody knows something that we do not know what it is? Is that all you have about the only whistle blower you supposedly know in the whole of NASA?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: V on May 03, 2014, 02:15:50 PM
Everyone you listed believes that light goes in straight lines.  That is probably why they all assume the Earth is round.
I think that anyone who knows anything about gravity knows that light is affected by gravity and therefore does not travel in straight lines.
But it is not an assumption that the Earth is an oblate spheroid. There is not one single photograph taken of the earth from space that demonstrates that it is flat, not one whistleblower that speaks the "truth" with proof.
NASA has also located exoplanets in other solar systems. Do you know what shape they are? That's right, they're round. If the same laws of physics apply everywhere, our planet is almost definitely round.
I challenge you and any other FE'ers to PM me how the Earth was formed according to your theory. Since nearly all scientists agree how the Earth and solar system were formed, I'd like to hear the dissonance of FE'ers and their different claims.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Goddamnit, Clown on May 03, 2014, 02:34:41 PM
Typically, whistleblowers bring evidence with them or at least draw a diagram on a napkin or construct a complete sentence. This man seems above all of that. To illustrate - this is what I would expect from a man who faked space images for years and is now revealing the truth:

Things a man who didn't fake space images by hand for years actually has in support of his comedy career and youtube channel:

1. Rambling:
2. Nothing.
3. Nothing.
4. Nothing else.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 02:37:42 PM
You set the goalpost yourself, claiming that there are plenty of whistle blowers inside NASA and you, yourself found exactly zero whistle blowers. In fact, you are the one who wants to move the goalposts to the point where an outsider who has done some graphics is considered by you as an insider.



He is not an outsider.  He worked as a contractor for years, then was actively recruited to become a full time employee, but never accepted.  He was friends with many people in NASA.  While he did not have a security clearance, he was, on several occasions, made privy to information about NASA secrets.  He knows the artwork that he has done for them.  He never made claims like, "I know the space ship is fake."  He simply shares what he knows, and yes, he does sometimes make assumptions and speculations.  However, he knows what he knows, and you are trying to discredit him simply by implying that we can not believe comedians.  His comedy shows are obviously, and starkly, different from his serious speeches. 

So, if you claim "he was, on several occasions, made privy to information about NASA secrets", then you have some kind of evidence of this. At the very least, you have the information of someone who talked with Math Boyler and knew which secrets he was made privy of.

Or, more probably, you just made this whole post up out of thin air. You do not know Math Boyler personally, you have not talked to him, you have no reason whatsoever to believe he knows more than what any graphic artist knows. If you did have any information on Math Boyler beyond what a Google search shows, you would at the very least know where to find the missing interviews.

And even if Math Boyler did believe anything you believe in, you have not given evidence of a single reason why Math Boyler would know more than anyone on the street about NASA.

A claim that somebody knows something that we do not know what it is? Is that all you have about the only whistle blower you supposedly know in the whole of NASA?

I saw his interview with my own two eyes.  I have no idea why it is no longer available on youtube.  I am simply repeating what I remember him saying in the interview.  You can either believe me or not. 

We had a discussion back in March about this, and I was able to easily find his videos and post them here.  Now, it seems like somebody (maybe Math himself) is trying to remove that evidence.  Maybe he was threatened, or maybe it was removed forcibly.  I don't know. 

So, if you want to call me a liar, then fine, do so.  But, at least have some reason to do so. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 02:41:19 PM
Things a man who didn't fake space images by hand for years actually has in support of his comedy career and youtube channel:

1. Rambling:
  • You don' even know how to use your eyeball properly.
  • FACE IT! Hate me 'cause I'm right, loser.
  • What it is right now is that I'm no longer part of the picture circus that delicately glues [sic] all these fantastic equations [sic] that try to say that there's 14lbs of air pressure around us that's why objects don't go flinging off at that fuckin' speed from a ball spinning. [all sic]
  • That whole video and all his other videos.
2. Nothing.
3. Nothing.
4. Nothing else.

He was drunk.  I even admitted that.  I was asked to produce a video of him while he was not performing either art or comedy, which I happily did.  Every time you people demand this or that, and I supply it, you make me out to be the bad guy.  Are you people really that desperate that you have to try to pull cons like this? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 03, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
Things a man who didn't fake space images by hand for years actually has in support of his comedy career and youtube channel:

1. Rambling:
  • You don' even know how to use your eyeball properly.
  • FACE IT! Hate me 'cause I'm right, loser.
  • What it is right now is that I'm no longer part of the picture circus that delicately glues [sic] all these fantastic equations [sic] that try to say that there's 14lbs of air pressure around us that's why objects don't go flinging off at that fuckin' speed from a ball spinning. [all sic]
  • That whole video and all his other videos.
2. Nothing.
3. Nothing.
4. Nothing else.

He was drunk.  I even admitted that.  I was asked to produce a video of him while he was not performing either art or comedy, which I happily did.  Every time you people demand this or that, and I supply it, you make me out to be the bad guy.  Are you people really that desperate that you have to try to pull cons like this?
Why do you have faith that he know what he is talking about?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 02:47:15 PM
I was not asked to provide evidence that I have faith in something.  I was asked for the name of a single NASA whistleblower, which I did.  Oh my god, you people are pathetic. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Goddamnit, Clown on May 03, 2014, 02:49:01 PM
I was talking about every single thing he has available, not just that video.

Unless you have a link to a scrap of evidence? A real-looking fake picture, maybe? A single piece of paper he brought with him? A work order for "3x super-fake pics and 1x ultrafake pic plz Mr Boyler, yours, NASA".

Anything would be interesting, but a man rambling, whether he's drunk on stage or sober in a church is not evidence. I will happily record a video of someone claiming to be the head of the Flat Earth Conspiracy, if anyone thinks they can learn anything from it? I'll even get him drunk and have him ramble on about how he's not in that game any more, it was too embarrassing, gluing all those UA equations together, and all those people taking it seriously!

Or whatever.

But I'll assume now that this would not, in fact, be evidence of anything.

I was not asked to provide evidence that I have faith in something.  I was asked for the name of a single NASA whistleblower, which I did.

As for that, a whistleblower is not the same thing as some guy you apparently don't believe monologuing nonsensically without evidence. You were asked for the former, you provided the latter.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Starman on May 03, 2014, 02:52:48 PM
I was not asked to provide evidence that I have faith in something.  I was asked for the name of a single NASA whistleblower, which I did.  Oh my god, you people are pathetic.
You are pathetic also. He is NOT a whistle-blower of any sort. He and you made that up.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 02:57:23 PM
I was talking about every single thing he has available, not just that video.

Unless you have a link to a scrap of evidence? A real-looking fake picture, maybe? A single piece of paper he brought with him? A work order for "3x super-fake pics and 1x ultrafake pic plz Mr Boyler, yours, NASA".

Anything would be interesting, but a man rambling, whether he's drunk on stage or sober in a church is not evidence. I will happily record a video of someone claiming to be the head of the Flat Earth Conspiracy, if anyone thinks they can learn anything from it? I'll even get him drunk and have him ramble on about how he's not in that game any more, it was too embarrassing, gluing all those UA equations together, and all those people taking it seriously!

Or whatever.

But I'll assume now that this would not, in fact, be evidence of anything.

I was not asked to provide evidence that I have faith in something.  I was asked for the name of a single NASA whistleblower, which I did.

As for that, a whistleblower is not the same thing as some guy you apparently don't believe monologuing nonsensically without evidence. You were asked for the former, you provided the latter.

The first video I provided had lots and lots of real looking fake pictures.  Did you even watch the video? 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 02:58:46 PM
I was not asked to provide evidence that I have faith in something.  I was asked for the name of a single NASA whistleblower, which I did.  Oh my god, you people are pathetic.
You are pathetic also. He is NOT a whistle-blower of any sort. He and you made that up.

Without a shred of evidence, in flies Starman in a feeble attempt to derail yet another thread. 
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: V on May 03, 2014, 03:07:58 PM
I was not asked to provide evidence that I have faith in something.  I was asked for the name of a single NASA whistleblower, which I did.  Oh my god, you people are pathetic.
You are pathetic also. He is NOT a whistle-blower of any sort. He and you made that up.

Without a shred of evidence, in flies Starman in a feeble attempt to derail yet another thread.
Do not ignore the fact that you had some part in converting a proper thread into uncivilized hurling of insults.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 03, 2014, 03:12:10 PM
I was not asked to provide evidence that I have faith in something.  I was asked for the name of a single NASA whistleblower, which I did.  Oh my god, you people are pathetic.
You are pathetic also. He is NOT a whistle-blower of any sort. He and you made that up.

Without a shred of evidence, in flies Starman in a feeble attempt to derail yet another thread.
Do not ignore the fact that you had some part in converting a proper thread into uncivilized hurling of insults.

I answered questions that were asked of me.  Do you think that I just stayed in this thread all day making sh*t up?  Someone asks me a question, then I answer it, then people insult me, then people ask me another question.  Do you see a pattern here?
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: RealScientist on May 03, 2014, 04:11:45 PM
I saw his interview with my own two eyes.  I have no idea why it is no longer available on youtube.  I am simply repeating what I remember him saying in the interview.  You can either believe me or not. 

We had a discussion back in March about this, and I was able to easily find his videos and post them here.  Now, it seems like somebody (maybe Math himself) is trying to remove that evidence.  Maybe he was threatened, or maybe it was removed forcibly.  I don't know. 

So, if you want to call me a liar, then fine, do so.  But, at least have some reason to do so.
So, in fact, you have nothing. No interview. No lecture. No first hand claims. You do not even have a first hand claim that any secrets were divulged, whatsoever. You do not even have the name of the interviewer or the alias of the uploader. We cannot even check whether he made a serious interview or made an interview skit.

The Lizard Men ate your homework and the proof is that you can't find it.
Title: Re: Plan to unravel Nasa's evil plot
Post by: Goddamnit, Clown on May 03, 2014, 04:21:57 PM
I've watched every video you put up, yeah. I literally couldn't stand to focus my attention on the whole duration of the 45 minute one but I scrubbed through it and watched every part that wasn't a shot of him talking and didn't see any convincing-but-fake pictures. He had some awesome special effects shots of the sun, but they looked like (and turned out to be) a burning ember. An out of focus cigar, iirc.

Just like a whistleblower on the greatest conspiracy ever dreamed of would have :D