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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 12:19:30 AM

Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 12:19:30 AM
Thanks to some insight from Who Da Man it has been established the earth is in fact a cube.


Here is a model of the earth cube

http://www.promotionpotion.com/monster/stress/60462/eb-ec02.jpg

FAQ

Why hasn't the government said it is a cube?

They say it's round cause it sounds better.

"Why do you guys believe the Earth is a cube?"

I did some tests on it and I am releasing book so it must be.

Why has no-one taken a photo of the Earth that proves it is a cube?

The astronauts use wide angle lenses in space making it seem round

What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?


Well the moon is made of cheese hence why we have blocks of cheese. Other planets appear round but it is an optical illusion, they are cubed.

What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?

They fly around the cube. How else would we have satelitte Radio

 8-)

What about gravity?

Gravity pushes on the cube.

Why doesn't water run off the Earth?

The same reason it doesn't run off the sphere earth.

Why is the North pole colder than the equator?

Have you ever gone outside in winter. DUh

How come the travel time by air from South America to New Zealand, via the polar route, is SHORTER than the travel time going North first and then South again?

The earth is a cube and pilots cut corners.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: bibicul on October 19, 2006, 12:21:26 AM
HAHA! Amazing!
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: joffenz on October 19, 2006, 02:13:47 AM
Gravity naturally pulls objects into spheres....
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Post by: phaseshifter on October 19, 2006, 10:27:43 AM
Well it's just as credible as the othe thing, So I guess you should start your own website.
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 10:44:52 AM
That idea was clever about 5000 tries ago.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 12:06:53 PM
Gravity naturally pulls objects into spheres....


Your wrong, can you show evidence of this?
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Your wrong, can you show evidence of this?



What did "His wrong" do that he needs to show evidence of?
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Dioptimus Drime on October 19, 2006, 01:39:24 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Your wrong, can you show evidence of this?


Umm...Yes...The fact that gravity is a force that pulls things together, in order for it to form a cube, it would have to have weak spots of the unusual force in the center of it, in order to form the shape of a cube. Also, this would mean that subsequently at the corners, people would probably weigh about half as much as at the middle of the side, which, obviously, is not true.
Through simple postulatory logic, you can figure that none of what you're saying is logical.

Also, I know this is just a joke, poking fun at the Flat Earth Theory, but this theory is nowhere near as thought out as the FE Theory, therefore you fail.


~D-Draw
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 03:01:57 PM
Your wrong, can you show evidence of this?



What did "His wrong" do that he needs to show evidence of?


I am using the same logic as the flatearthers. I make up my own theories and they are therefore correct. Also as I stated in the FAQ I did experiments and the earth is a cube.
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 03:13:55 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"


I am using the same logic as the flatearthers. I make up my own theories and they are therefore correct.


That's not FE logic at all, really. People come to the site, they say "You guys are wrong, Earth is round."
To which the FE's reply "Prove it." Which is perfectly reasonable seeing as the burden of proof lies with with the accusers, not the accused.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 03:41:48 PM

That's not FE logic at all, really. People come to the site, they say "You guys are wrong, Earth is round."
To which the FE's reply "Prove it." Which is perfectly reasonable seeing as the burden of proof lies with with the accusers, not the accused.


Okay, prove that the earth is flat. As far as I am concerned it is a cube.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: holybrain on October 19, 2006, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"

That's not FE logic at all, really. People come to the site, they say "You guys are wrong, Earth is round."
To which the FE's reply "Prove it." Which is perfectly reasonable seeing as the burden of proof lies with with the accusers, not the accused.


Okay, prove that the earth is flat. As far as I am concerned it is a cube.


Fine. Think that the Earth is a cube. This site isn't trying to convince YOU of anything.
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Post by: phaseshifter on October 19, 2006, 04:46:30 PM
Isn't the burden of proof usually with the people who challenge the status quo?
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Post by: holybrain on October 19, 2006, 04:49:41 PM
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
Isn't the burden of proof usually with the people who challenge the status quo?


Yes, and here, the status quo is that the Earth is flat.
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 04:51:08 PM
The burden of proof lies with the people who challenge the commonly accepted belief. Since this is the FE society that belief is that Earth is flat.
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 05:05:38 PM
Okay we are cool then. The earth is a cube.
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 05:08:39 PM
Possibly, you never know.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 05:12:56 PM
Possibly, you never know.

If you read the FAQ you will see that it is. Don't post rubbish before reading the FAQ, thanks.
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 05:14:37 PM
I did and I don't, thanks.
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Post by: phaseshifter on October 19, 2006, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
The burden of proof lies with the people who challenge the commonly accepted belief. Since this is the FE society that belief is that Earth is flat.


Imagine the chaos in the world if that was true.
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Post by: Dioptimus Drime on October 19, 2006, 05:50:12 PM
Christchex, guys, you morons STILL can't get the "Burden of Proof" logic into your heads? Honest to God, it's REALLY not that hard! If you come here with a theory that differentiates from The Flat Earth Theory, then you are the accusers, meaning you have to prove us wrong. Any other attempts at logic don't even make sense. Durr.


~D-Draw
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: phaseshifter on October 19, 2006, 06:27:42 PM
When you make a website, or anything else for that matter (cult, religion political party, clan, discussion group ect.)

People will expect you to be able to prove that your point of view is not bullshit.

Ex:. People go into a cardgame forum and ask, "Hey guys, show me why you think Vampiric dragon is not a tournament worthy card" and people will explain with playtests results and game theory why it isn't.

You go into a fighting game forum and ask, "hey guys, show me why you think that SNK games are better than Capcom ones" People will show, through movies, game theory, per characte option and character balancing what their point of view is based on, and why it is valid.

Same thing with anything else. They won't go "no sir, you came to our site, we're not showing anything to you, YOU show us that Card X, or game X is not what we say it is. That would be seen as snobish to most people and would just alienate newcomers.

It's not realistic to think that people will come to your forum and NOT expect you to prove that your point of view is valid. Even if it was, calling people morons would not be a good way of doing that either.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 06:41:51 PM
If you come here with a theory that differentiates from The Flat Earth Theory, then you are the accusers, meaning you have to prove us wrong. Any other attempts at logic don't even make sense. Durr.


I did present proof in my FAQ. You the one who hasn't shown me anything to warrant that the earth is not a cube.
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 07:33:09 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
If you come here with a theory that differentiates from The Flat Earth Theory, then you are the accusers, meaning you have to prove us wrong. Any other attempts at logic don't even make sense. Durr.


I did present proof in my FAQ. You the one who hasn't shown me anything to warrant that the earth is not a cube.


All you did with your FAQ was say that you believe Earth to be a cube. That is not a refutation of anything, it's just a general statement to the world at large.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
When you make a website, or anything else for that matter (cult, religion political party, clan, discussion group ect.)

People will expect you to be able to prove that your point of view is not bullshit.

Ex:. People go into a cardgame forum and ask, "Hey guys, show me why you think Vampiric dragon is not a tournament worthy card" and people will explain with playtests results and game theory why it isn't.


This isn't the same thing.
Think of it this way, if you started a forum called "The round Earth society" and someone came to the forum and said "You are wrong, Earth is flat", should you have to prove them wrong? Or is it their job to show why they're right?
Because, honestly, you don't care that they disagree with your theory, unless they can offer evidence to show that they're right.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 08:13:12 PM
All you did with your FAQ was say that you believe Earth to be a cube. That is not a refutation of anything, it's just a general statement to the world at large.

That is exactly what the Flat Earth FAQ did. Also I stated that I had done experiments in my FAQ and would be releasing a book with them in it. I did experiments just as the FE states that one of their members did. I am doing nothing out of the ordinary in my FAQ. One could argue the FE FAQ contains general statements such as "The whole world is in a conspiracy". There is no proof to back that up. But alas my FAQ has proof and isn't a general statement.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 08:15:47 PM
The FAQ does not exist to prove the FE theory, the FAQ exists to answer Frequently Asked Questions.
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 08:28:37 PM
Well you still didn't explain how the FE FAQ isn't just a general statement. You claim mine is well so is yours.
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Post by: Dioptimus Drime on October 19, 2006, 08:40:02 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
If you come here with a theory that differentiates from The Flat Earth Theory, then you are the accusers, meaning you have to prove us wrong. Any other attempts at logic don't even make sense. Durr.


I did present proof in my FAQ. You the one who hasn't shown me anything to warrant that the earth is not a cube.


You answered questions, but you didn't manage to present any evidence. And, you forget the fact that I DID prove to you that the Earth is not a cube; you just happened to bypass that part.

Quote from: "phaseshifter"
When you make a website, or anything else for that matter (cult, religion political party, clan, discussion group ect.)

People will expect you to be able to prove that your point of view is not bullshit.

Again, you are thinking incorrectly, especially in your examples.

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Ex:. People go into a cardgame forum and ask, "Hey guys, show me why you think Vampiric dragon is not a tournament worthy card" and people will explain with playtests results and game theory why it isn't.

That's not a valid example. The CORRECT way to put that example would be: You go into a Vampiric Dragon tournament forum and tell them that it is not a tournament-worthy card. Obviously, they're going to ask you why you think that, and you are in the position where you have to prove it.

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You go into a fighting game forum and ask, "hey guys, show me why you think that SNK games are better than Capcom ones" People will show, through movies, game theory, per characte option and character balancing what their point of view is based on, and why it is valid.

Again, you're incorrect. Corrected example: You go into an SNK game forum and tell them that you think that Capcom is better. They ask why, and you're required to prove that Capcom is better.

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Same thing with anything else. They won't go "no sir, you came to our site, we're not showing anything to you, YOU show us that Card X, or game X is not what we say it is.

We don't say that we aren't going to show you anything, but if you're going to come and say, "You're wrong" and then leave, what's the point of proving anything?

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That would be seen as snobish to most people and would just alienate newcomers.
:lol:
Alienate newcomers...Don't want to alienate those aliens, hm?

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It's not realistic to think that people will come to your forum and NOT expect you to prove that your point of view is valid. Even if it was, calling people morons would not be a good way of doing that either.

We do prove our point of view, but you have to give us something to prove, otherwise we can't prove a damned thing. Basically, the only way to counter you coming and saying, "The Earth is round" would be for us to say, "Nope, the Earth is flat." But hey, you guys aren't happy with that either. The point isn't for us to NOT prove our point EVER, it's that in order for us to DO so, you have to bring up the issues, and tell us what's wrong FIRST, otherwise we're stuck in a cycle of argument that is just plainly illogical.

Honest to God, what part of this completely logical concept do you guys not understand. IT'S SIMPLE! Freaking Christ...


~D-Draw
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 08:43:25 PM
Enough Bickering who wants to join "The Cube Shaped Earth Society?"
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 19, 2006, 08:47:46 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Well you still didn't explain how the FE FAQ isn't just a general statement. You claim mine is well so is yours.


I never said whether it was or wasn't, so I have no need to prove anything.
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 19, 2006, 08:54:41 PM
Okay well you said my theory of a cubed earth is wrong well can you provide  proof?
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Post by: Dioptimus Drime on October 20, 2006, 11:16:50 AM
Yup.
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Umm...Yes...The fact that gravity is a force that pulls things together, in order for it to form a cube, it would have to have weak spots of the unusual force in the center of it, in order to form the shape of a cube. Also, this would mean that subsequently at the corners, people would probably weigh about half as much as at the middle of the side, which, obviously, is not true.
Through simple postulatory logic, you can figure that none of what you're saying is logical.

Also, I know this is just a joke, poking fun at the Flat Earth Theory, but this theory is nowhere near as thought out as the FE Theory, therefore you fail.


~D-Draw


Now, I didn't need to be nice and do this, since you're the one attempting to convince us. HOWEVER, I did anyways. See, I'm a kind guy.
Now, maybe if you were a bit brighter, this would be a more valid topic.


~D-Draw
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: Earthisround99 on October 20, 2006, 02:56:16 PM
You guys are the ones saying my FAQ is just a general statement and that I am wrong. I know the earth is a cube therefore you must prove your theory to me.
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Post by: TheEngineer on October 20, 2006, 02:57:38 PM
Nope, this is the Flat Earth Society.  Here, you are challenging the norm.  You must prove we are wrong.
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 20, 2006, 03:00:38 PM
I already proved you were wrong in my FAQ. You still haven't proved me wrong.
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Post by: TheEngineer on October 20, 2006, 03:06:13 PM
One thing I would like to know is where are the corners and edges (geographically)?
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Post by: phaseshifter on October 20, 2006, 04:09:56 PM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Quote from: "phaseshifter"
When you make a website, or anything else for that matter (cult, religion political party, clan, discussion group ect.)

People will expect you to be able to prove that your point of view is not bullshit.

Ex:. People go into a cardgame forum and ask, "Hey guys, show me why you think Vampiric dragon is not a tournament worthy card" and people will explain with playtests results and game theory why it isn't.


This isn't the same thing.
Think of it this way, if you started a forum called "The round Earth society" and someone came to the forum and said "You are wrong, Earth is flat", should you have to prove them wrong? Or is it their job to show why they're right?
Because, honestly, you don't care that they disagree with your theory, unless they can offer evidence to show that they're right.


Note that I used the term"prove that your point of view is valid" as opposed to proving people wrong. If I made a website about anything, I would EXPECT people to question anything that I state, that would seem contrary to popular beleif. And yes, it is the same thing. Any forum or website is subjected to this. Just look around.

Unless the forum was started under the assumtion that it's views were false, it has the responsibility to be able to support them.

I don't see how it's "not the same thing"
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Post by: Space_Maze on October 20, 2006, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Gravity naturally pulls objects into spheres....


Your wrong, can you show evidence of this?


Go to California. Six Flags Magic Mountain theme park. Look for the ride "Superman" - it shoots you up a tower high enough that when you're heading down, you will spend 6 seconds in zero gravity - de facto.

Spit.

Your spit will pull itself together in a round ball.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: phaseshifter on October 20, 2006, 04:14:48 PM
Quote from: "Space_Maze"
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Gravity naturally pulls objects into spheres....


Your wrong, can you show evidence of this?


Go to California. Six Flags Magic Mountain theme park. Look for the ride "Superman" - it shoots you up a tower high enough that when you're heading down, you will spend 6 seconds in zero gravity - de facto.

Spit.

Your spit will pull itself together in a round ball.


That's what I call pwnage in a can. Space maze just opened the can:)

Still, a cube earth sounds like an interesting place to live on.
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 20, 2006, 04:29:09 PM
Doesn't it.
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Post by: phaseshifter on October 20, 2006, 04:33:02 PM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Doesn't it.


Sure, what the hell, I'll join you just so I can join Gizmo duck on his trip to the moon to get green cheeze.
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Post by: CrimsonKing on October 20, 2006, 04:34:33 PM
Your spit doesnt go into a ball due to gravity, its goes into a ball because of the fluid dynamics, first a very small amount comes out, then more, then the most, then less, until none,
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Post by: phaseshifter on October 20, 2006, 04:43:29 PM
Quote from: "CrimsonKing"
Your spit doesnt go into a ball due to gravity, its goes into a ball because of the fluid dynamics, first a very small amount comes out, then more, then the most, then less, until none,
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Wouldn't that make a teardrop shape rather than a sphere?
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Post by: CrimsonKing on October 20, 2006, 04:45:28 PM
...not necesarily, since that is from falling for a while, as raindrops do
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 20, 2006, 06:38:44 PM
Quote from: "phaseshifter"

Note that I used the term"prove that your point of view is valid" as opposed to proving people wrong. If I made a website about anything, I would EXPECT people to question anything that I state, that would seem contrary to popular beleif. And yes, it is the same thing. Any forum or website is subjected to this. Just look around.

Unless the forum was started under the assumtion that it's views were false, it has the responsibility to be able to support them.

I don't see how it's "not the same thing"



Any FE on this site is perfectly willing to support their views and beliefs, it is only when someone comes to the forum and states "The Earth is round, your theory is wrong," and gives no supporting evidence that the FE's have no reason to defend the theory, since it is the person who is accusing the theory of being false' responsibility to show evidence for it.
Title: The earth is a cube *Proof*
Post by: phaseshifter on October 20, 2006, 07:58:26 PM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
Quote from: "phaseshifter"

Note that I used the term"prove that your point of view is valid" as opposed to proving people wrong. If I made a website about anything, I would EXPECT people to question anything that I state, that would seem contrary to popular beleif. And yes, it is the same thing. Any forum or website is subjected to this. Just look around.

Unless the forum was started under the assumtion that it's views were false, it has the responsibility to be able to support them.

I don't see how it's "not the same thing"



Any FE on this site is perfectly willing to support their views and beliefs, it is only when someone comes to the forum and states "The Earth is round, your theory is wrong," and gives no supporting evidence that the FE's have no reason to defend the theory, since it is the person who is accusing the theory of being false' responsibility to show evidence for it.


Well that's not the same as what you were saying before. And so far, I haven't seen a topic just saying "you guys are wrong, earth is a sphere" with nothing else added.
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Post by: GeoGuy on October 20, 2006, 08:07:24 PM
You also haven't seen a single (original) topic which hasn't been answered by FE's.
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Post by: Rossk #5!! on October 20, 2006, 09:23:52 PM
Looks good to me, guess the earth really IS a cube! :D
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 20, 2006, 10:43:24 PM
Okay Rossk now the "Earth is a cube" group has three members.


ME
Who Da man
and you

We are growing with a Rational idea. People are realizing the FE model is BS.
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Post by: Dioptimus Drime on October 21, 2006, 12:08:56 AM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
We are growing with a Rational idea. People are realizing the FE model is BS.

Uhm...actually you should sort of put that into the past tense, and I'm pretty sure that the former sentence and the latter are entirely unrelated. Everyone realized that the FE model is BS. You guys just haven't realized that we've realized it. ;)
Still, you've hardly done anything for this theory. You're still not clever nor witty, no matter how many times per day you dream of being so.

~D-Draw
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 21, 2006, 12:16:06 AM
I have me my views you have yours. You can say what you want but I am going to believe my theory, you believe yours.
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Post by: Xargo on October 21, 2006, 12:34:59 AM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
That idea was clever about 5000 tries ago.


So was the FE theory.
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Post by: TheEngineer on October 21, 2006, 08:56:18 AM
Quote from: "Earthisround99"
Okay Rossk now the "Earth is a cube" group has three members.

Looks like it's time to get your own website, goodbye.
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Post by: Earthisround99 on October 21, 2006, 12:46:19 PM
Hey Engineer I am in Arizona also. We should meet somewhere and fight. Loser has to accept the other's theory as true.

It's On!
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Post by: TheEngineer on October 21, 2006, 01:09:24 PM
It wouldn't be a fair fight.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5656&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
At the beginning and the end of the page.
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Post by: phaseshifter on October 21, 2006, 08:04:34 PM
Quote from: "GeoGuy"
You also haven't seen a single (original) topic which hasn't been answered by FE's.


What do you mean by "oriinal"?

And I did witness more than one statements that were ignored, or people merely trying to change the subject, or answered by a question.
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Post by: beast on October 21, 2006, 08:20:25 PM
He means original as in asking a question that hasn't been asked before.  He's saying that every question that gets asked on this forum and isn't answered has been asked and answered by somebody else somewhere else on this forum.
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Post by: Bodge on October 21, 2006, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: "cheesejoff"
Gravity naturally pulls objects into spheres....


When melted lead is dropped down a shot tower, the small parts become perfect spheres. Don't believe me, look it up.

If the Earth was flat, there would be no gravity. The Earth has to be a sphere if it orbits the Sun (do you believe that, or are you living in the past and also think everything revolves around the Earth?).
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Post by: TheEngineer on October 21, 2006, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: "Bodge"


When melted lead is dropped down a shot tower, the small parts become perfect spheres. Don't believe me, look it up.

Sorry, what's your point?  They don't form spheres because of gravity.
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If the Earth was flat, there would be no gravity.

You are right, so it's a good thing there isn't a gravitational field from the earth.
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The Earth has to be a sphere if it orbits the Sun (do you believe that, or are you living in the past and also think everything revolves around the Earth?).

The sun and moon orbit each other above the earth.