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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: squevil on March 26, 2013, 07:16:36 PM

Title: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 26, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
Invisible Glass - How to Make an Object Vanish (http://#ws)

this video demonstrates how objects may disappear due to 'bendy' light.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: darknavyseal on March 26, 2013, 08:13:47 PM
cool. Awesome stuff. ;D
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: FlatOrange on March 26, 2013, 09:55:09 PM
And this explains... um... well, it's funny :D

Steve Spangler on The Ellen Show September 2007 (http://#)
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 26, 2013, 10:15:06 PM
you do know you are not meant to post low content here right? i know septics threads turn into random ramblings here....

the video is not in jest. it is a serious comment and the principles behind it can explain some things we observe.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: FlatOrange on March 26, 2013, 11:03:11 PM
Okay, my bad.  I watched that video after yours and should've posted it in the lounge.  I suppose I can edit? I don't know if that will help.

Anyway, how do you think it explains it.  I mean... we saw glass disappear.

Bendy light says light doesn't reach our eyes.  The glass and oil in this experiment allowed light to pass right through without any refraction.  Are you proposing that a ship, far on the horizon suddenly allows light to pass right through it?
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 26, 2013, 11:09:07 PM
im actually proposing somebody who supports fet to be able to use this as more evidence.

i think it will aid the fact that the southern hemiplane see different stars. this could be due to the density of the atmoplane reaching an equal refraction index. same could be said for high altitude photography.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Wolf on March 26, 2013, 11:14:31 PM
So how do they become visible?
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 27, 2013, 01:38:44 AM
The same way objects become visable on a foggy day.
It may of taken a while and given you have to ignore space travel, but FET answers most issues rather well and the model is becoming a lot better. I'm just trying to show you visually what some of the effects are.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Salviati on March 27, 2013, 02:59:50 AM
im actually proposing somebody who supports fet to be able to use this as more evidence.

i think it will aid the fact that the southern hemiplane see different stars. this could be due to the density of the atmoplane reaching an equal refraction index. same could be said for high altitude photography.
Surely you are joking. This phenomenon has nothing to do with flat earth and explain nothing from a flat earther's point of view, if anything it explains well phenomena as selenelion and Bedford Level experiment that are due to atmosphere refraction.

Not meaning that objects disappear as in the video, but that refraction is a well known and accepted fact.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: jason_85 on March 27, 2013, 03:13:00 AM
this video demonstrates how objects may disappear due to 'bendy' light.

It sure doesn't.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Puttah on March 27, 2013, 05:03:09 AM
im actually proposing somebody who supports fet to be able to use this as more evidence.

Ahahaha oh god, my sides are splitting.

"Guys, I have a video that shows things can vanish, and since our whole theory is based on invisible things we can't see, well, you get the idea. More evidence!!!"
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 27, 2013, 08:39:12 AM
this video demonstrates how objects may disappear due to 'bendy' light.

It sure doesn't.

yes it can
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Rama Set on March 27, 2013, 09:06:55 AM
this video demonstrates how objects may disappear due to 'bendy' light.

It sure doesn't.

yes it can

That is refraction you are seeing, a well understood, well modelled idea that is used every day by people with eye glasses. 
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 27, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
ok now i understand the flat earth theorists pain...
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Rama Set on March 27, 2013, 09:52:42 AM
ok now i understand the flat earth theorists pain...

What do you think it can explain?
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 27, 2013, 10:43:33 AM
it is a visual tool to show the effects of refraction in the atmosphere. im not saying this is how it happens.
this is bendy light right here in a jar.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Rama Set on March 27, 2013, 11:05:45 AM
it is a visual tool to show the effects of refraction in the atmosphere. im not saying this is how it happens.
this is bendy light right here in a jar.

Bendy light is a separate phenomenon from refraction. Refraction says that lights is refracted in a medium. Bendy Light, I believe, has no discovered mechanism to produce the effect.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 27, 2013, 11:11:00 AM
Even in the video they say light is bending.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Salviati on March 27, 2013, 01:16:15 PM
this is bendy light right here in a jar.
When the object vanishes it is straight light.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Shmeggley on March 27, 2013, 02:45:24 PM
this video demonstrates how objects may disappear due to 'bendy' light.

It sure doesn't.

In fact it shows how "bendy" (refracted) light makes an object made of transparent material visible. You only see the glass rod when there is a difference in the index of refraction between the glass and the surrounding material (air or water). When the index is the same (glass and oil) you don't see the rod because the light doesn't bend at the interface between the oil and the glass.

If anything it only shows how incoherent the whole "bendy light theory" is.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: jason_85 on March 27, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
this video demonstrates how objects may disappear due to 'bendy' light.

It sure doesn't.

yes it can

The only thing this video shows is that under certain refractive indices of a medium light doesn't refract.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: bullhorn on March 27, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
The video demonstrates that we can not fully trust our senses. 
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: jason_85 on March 27, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
The video demonstrates that we can not fully trust our senses.

Yes it does reaffirm that I suppose, but was that ever in question? It is already obvious to most people, particularly those involved in science.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: Rama Set on March 27, 2013, 04:04:23 PM
The video demonstrates that we can not fully trust our senses.

So then you -can't- tell the Earth is flat by looking at it?
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: FlatOrange on March 27, 2013, 04:08:41 PM
Kudos to that post, Rama!
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: squevil on March 27, 2013, 06:14:55 PM
its the flat earth society. the thread was made to talk about flat earth theory, not the problems with it. there are many others for that.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: jason_85 on March 27, 2013, 10:07:16 PM
its the flat earth society. the thread was made to talk about flat earth theory, not the problems with it. there are many others for that.

I'm not being facetious, I honestly do not understand how a video of light not refracting through a medium is evidence of bendy light or some other flat-earth supporting phenomenon.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: A Doubter on March 28, 2013, 02:50:45 AM
The video demonstrates that we can not fully trust our senses.

So then you -can't- tell the Earth is flat by looking at it?

All we need to do now is get past the 1+1=1 problem and you've knocked the whole damn thing on the head!

Well done Rama.
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: jason_85 on March 28, 2013, 04:43:07 AM
All we need to do now is get past the 1+1=1 problem and you've knocked the whole damn thing on the head!

Well done Rama.

Oh please not the waterdrops again...
Title: Re: a basic explanation for FET
Post by: A Doubter on March 28, 2013, 04:44:36 AM
 ;D