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Title: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 29, 2012, 02:02:19 AM
Hey flat earthers and round earthers.
 I haven't posted here in a while because the allure of the real world was just too strong. BUT while I was gone I did some research and asked a whole lot of questions to a whole lot of different people.
 In my actual day to day life in Sydney I spoke to lots of people about the flat earth society and hardly anyone had heard of it, but most had heard of the flat earth concept. Everyone I spoke to about the concept of a flat earth thought it was hilarious and/or stupid and/or downright offensive to literally thousands of years of brilliant science which we use in our day to day lives. Not one person was even slightly sceptical about the roundness of the earth.
And when looking online, it seems as though the vast majority of Flat-Earthers are from the United States of America.
I'm just wondering what everybody makes of that.
My personal opinion, which I wouldn't dream of forcing upon anyone else, is that the flat-earth concept is a sort of intellectual disease which is mostly contained geographically, but has popped up in other places from time to time. Kind of like maleria. Intellectual maleria.
What do YOU think?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on May 29, 2012, 04:57:41 AM
Well I would like to say that most Americans are not that gullible as some of the followers of FE. My whole boat laughs at this site while underway. We even tested a few things out on patrol just to pass the time (like your hole in the paper same size sun experiment)
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 29, 2012, 06:26:02 AM
Yeah, I'm not here bashing Americans (this time at least, hehe). Dumb ideas happen all over the world. This dumb idea just happens to be concentrated in the USA and I think it's just because firstly it started there, and secondly it's actually TOO dumb an idea to really spread far and wide like, for example, the mystical powers of coloured rocks - a belief held by many gullible people all over this ROUND earth of ours.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Mr Pseudonym on May 29, 2012, 06:27:24 AM
I don't think you have lurked enough. Cliched maybe, but true.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 29, 2012, 07:27:49 AM
I don't think you have lurked enough. Cliched maybe, but true.

I don't have time to sift through ten thousand old rubbish posts about 'the conspiracy' and offensive misunderstandings of the laws of physics in order to find something this specific. If you don't like my question and refuse to answer it, then piss off.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 29, 2012, 10:29:03 AM
I don't think you have lurked enough. Cliched maybe, but true.

I don't have time to sift through ten thousand old rubbish posts about 'the conspiracy' and offensive misunderstandings of the laws of physics in order to find something this specific.

Then you don't have time for this website at all.

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If you don't like my question and refuse to answer it, then piss off.

Something similar applies to you and the terms of this website.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Rushy on May 29, 2012, 10:34:31 AM
If you don't wish to put in time or effort into a subject, then you are doomed to never understand it.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Thork on May 29, 2012, 10:37:30 AM
I would surmise that when you come to an English-speaking website, you will probably find the distribution of users to be more American than anything else. I happen to be British, but being as there are 5 times as many American's as Brits on (flat) earth, that should mean by the law of averages that there are 5 times as many merkins (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=merkin) as Brits on this site. And that's probably about right. We also have Canadians and Aussies. In fact a few Aussies, but they they tend to run the night shift (from my perspective).
You aren't likely to come up against as many Europeans, because you live on the other side of the disk. That means that fortunately for them, they are in bed when you decide to spray your retarted observations across the super information highway.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on May 29, 2012, 12:05:44 PM
you mean the other side of the globe right Thork? hahaha
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: squevil on May 29, 2012, 12:10:15 PM
my friends sir name was murkin, man he had the piss ripped out of him for all his teenage years.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Thork on May 29, 2012, 12:43:19 PM
you mean the other side of the globe right Thork? hahaha
No, I was quite specific.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 29, 2012, 01:02:45 PM
The idea of flat earth is not an American idea. Most all ancient cosmologies viewed the world to be flat. I don't believe Americans wrote the bible and Koran, two books that state the world is flat.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: squevil on May 29, 2012, 05:06:38 PM
The idea of flat earth is not an American idea. Most all ancient cosmologies viewed the world to be flat. I don't believe Americans wrote the bible and Koran, two books that state the world is flat.

im sure most americans would tell you otherwise. jesus usually look like a yank too. yet he wasnt
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 29, 2012, 05:08:47 PM
The idea of flat earth is not an American idea. Most all ancient cosmologies viewed the world to be flat. I don't believe Americans wrote the bible and Koran, two books that state the world is flat.

im sure most americans would tell you otherwise.

Wut?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 29, 2012, 06:18:28 PM
The idea of flat earth is not an American idea. Most all ancient cosmologies viewed the world to be flat. I don't believe Americans wrote the bible and Koran, two books that state the world is flat.

im sure most americans would tell you otherwise. jesus usually look like a yank too. yet he wasnt


The image of Jesus actually came from Rome, not from Yankees.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lorddave on May 29, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Thork said it best. Larger population = more chance of something.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 29, 2012, 07:38:36 PM
The image of Jesus actually came from Rome, not from Yankees.

Levee might dispute that.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Pongo on May 29, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
Yeah, I'm not here bashing Americans (this time at least, hehe). Dumb ideas happen all over the world. This dumb idea just happens to be concentrated in the USA and I think it's just because firstly it started there, and secondly it's actually TOO dumb an idea to really spread far and wide like, for example, the mystical powers of coloured rocks - a belief held by many gullible people all over this ROUND earth of ours.

Very few of us have met in person. I'm not sure why you think FET spread across the United States like a disease when the vast majority of us came here independently.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 29, 2012, 09:48:28 PM
The idea of flat earth is not an American idea. Most all ancient cosmologies viewed the world to be flat. I don't believe Americans wrote the bible and Koran, two books that state the world is flat.

Hardly any Muslims are Flat-Earthers. Do you know any who are members here? Their flat earth beliefs are not the same as those of the Flat Earth society. For one, the Flat Earth society does not assert that Allah created the earth.
Most of those other ancient cultures who believed the world was flat are extinct.  For good reasons.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on May 29, 2012, 10:07:29 PM
I agree with Lord Oddfish, the ancient cultures that believed the earth was flat either died out, or changed their view based on new information from some very birght minds of their time.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 29, 2012, 10:52:33 PM
Very few of us have met in person. I'm not sure why you think FET spread across the United States like a disease when the vast majority of us came here independently.

That is interesting feedback. That's the kind of info I'm looking for. Very interesting...Flat-Earth-itis is mostly spontaneous, not usually spread by contact.
So then why is it so concentrated in the USA?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 29, 2012, 11:49:21 PM
The idea of flat earth is not an American idea. Most all ancient cosmologies viewed the world to be flat. I don't believe Americans wrote the bible and Koran, two books that state the world is flat.

Hardly any Muslims are Flat-Earthers. Do you know any who are members here? Their flat earth beliefs are not the same as those of the Flat Earth society. For one, the Flat Earth society does not assert that Allah created the earth.
Most of those other ancient cultures who believed the world was flat are extinct.  For good reasons.


Correct most Muslims are not flat earthers, just like most Christians are not flat earthers. Never the less both the bible and the Koran say that the world is flat. Bible says many things that Christians just do not follow or no longer believe. The idea of round earth is the most indoctrinating idea of all times, only followed by the theory of evolution.

Can you also please tell me the reasons these ancient cultures extinct? You said they extinct for good reasons, I want you to name me some of these cultures and then give me good reasons why they no longer here.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 30, 2012, 04:24:37 AM
Never the less both the bible and the Koran say that the world is flat.
....
Can you also please tell me the reasons these ancient cultures extinct? You said they extinct for good reasons, I want you to name me some of these cultures and then give me good reasons why they no longer here.

Yeh the bible says its ok to sell your daughter into slavery. And if you work on saturday you must have your head cut off. And if you should touch a woman during her period you can make up for it by setting fire to small animals.What I'm saying here is... IT'S FULL OF CRAP. Including, but not limited to, the flat earth belief.

The reason those cultures no longer exist is because they are outdated and savage and primitive. Again, including, but not limited to, their belief that the world is flat. They were wiped out by more advanced societies and cultures.
 The ancient egyptians believed all kinds of insane nonsense which have been proved wrong by science. To be honest, since they were indeed ancient, you can't blame them for making simple assumptions until science showed them the real way things are. But I CAN criticise people in the western world in year 2012 for thinking earth is flat, because THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR SUCH IGNORANCE!
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 30, 2012, 10:05:58 AM
Very few of us have met in person. I'm not sure why you think FET spread across the United States like a disease when the vast majority of us came here independently.

That is interesting feedback. That's the kind of info I'm looking for. Very interesting...Flat-Earth-itis is mostly spontaneous, not usually spread by contact.
So then why is it so concentrated in the USA?

???  Thork already answered that:

I would surmise that when you come to an English-speaking website, you will probably find the distribution of users to be more American than anything else. I happen to be British, but being as there are 5 times as many American's as Brits on (flat) earth, that should mean by the law of averages that there are 5 times as many merkins (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=merkin) as Brits on this site. And that's probably about right. We also have Canadians and Aussies. In fact a few Aussies, but they they tend to run the night shift (from my perspective).
You aren't likely to come up against as many Europeans, because you live on the other side of the disk. That means that fortunately for them, they are in bed when you decide to spray your retarted observations across the super information highway.

I really don't see what the point of this thread is.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 30, 2012, 01:00:04 PM
Never the less both the bible and the Koran say that the world is flat.
....
Can you also please tell me the reasons these ancient cultures extinct? You said they extinct for good reasons, I want you to name me some of these cultures and then give me good reasons why they no longer here.

Yeh the bible says its ok to sell your daughter into slavery. And if you work on saturday you must have your head cut off. And if you should touch a woman during her period you can make up for it by setting fire to small animals.What I'm saying here is... IT'S FULL OF CRAP. Including, but not limited to, the flat earth belief.

The reason those cultures no longer exist is because they are outdated and savage and primitive. Again, including, but not limited to, their belief that the world is flat. They were wiped out by more advanced societies and cultures.
 The ancient egyptians believed all kinds of insane nonsense which have been proved wrong by science. To be honest, since they were indeed ancient, you can't blame them for making simple assumptions until science showed them the real way things are. But I CAN criticise people in the western world in year 2012 for thinking earth is flat, because THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR SUCH IGNORANCE!


You obviously misread or misinterpreted the bible, and although bible is not a feminist women's rights book, it does not encourage slavery, animal abuse or murder. But do not take the bible literally for it is a very symbolic document, therefore it must be carefully studied and properly translated to get the meaning.

Also you are very wrong about ancients being savage or primitive. The Egyptians that you so rudely degraded built pyramids that up to this day could not be replicated or build by modern men with all our "great" technology. Egyptians had mystery schools where secrets of the universe were learned. Egyptians even mastered flight and anti gravity. But of course your classroom teacher will never tell you that.

I also suggest that you look into the ancient India and study Vedas, that civilization also had flight and the aircraft was called Vimana. All this information is easily accessible.  The ancients knew this earth and understood its secrets a lot better then we can ever imagine today. However the conspiracy and mainstream academia will tell you otherwise. They want you to think that the ancients were savages with primitive technology and false views of the world, that is the furthest from the truth friend. To be honest with you our society and our modern world is a lot more savage then any ancient civilization. I laugh when people make a big deal out of an i phone or an ipod thinking it some great technological achievement. They truly know nothing of history of the ancient earth.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: MrT on May 30, 2012, 01:07:29 PM
Egyptians had mystery schools where secrets of the universe were learned. Egyptians even mastered flight and anti gravity.

I also suggest that you look into the ancient India and study Vedas, that civilization also had flight and the aircraft was called Vimana.

Do you have sources for these claims?  Why would our "classroom teachers" want to hide this?  What would be gained? 

If these ancient civilizations had this amazing technology and understanding of the world, what happened to them?  Why was this technology and information lost (and if it was lost, how do we know they had it)?  And if there are those today who know about it, why aren't they replicating the technology and spreading the word?  If this information is so "easily found" how are people kept so clueless, and by whom?  Why?

While I don't debate the difficulty and cost of replicating the Pyramids, what makes you think we couldn't build them today?

Edit:  By the way, I have seen the carvings which seem to depict what we consider flying machines (dirigibles, planes, helicopters, etc.).  But I've also seen logical arguments explaining those carvings (meaning, showing they don't represent planes, etc.).  Also, if they had some sort of technology far beyond what we have now, why would we presume to recognize it from a wall carving?  How would we know what a super advanced, ancient egyptian aircraft would look like?  I've seen the hypotheses and musings about the possibility of Egypt and others having advanced technology, but it has all been based on very weak "evidence" and was basically nothing more than wild speculation.  You state it as if it's fact and anyone can descover these facts for themselves, yet we simultaneously don't understand it and it's being kept from us. 

Edit #2:  I also wonder what this has to do with the original topic.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: rooster on May 30, 2012, 01:20:51 PM
Yeah, I'm not here bashing Americans (this time at least, hehe). Dumb ideas happen all over the world. This dumb idea just happens to be concentrated in the USA and I think it's just because firstly it started there, and secondly it's actually TOO dumb an idea to really spread far and wide like, for example, the mystical powers of coloured rocks - a belief held by many gullible people all over this ROUND earth of ours.
The current organization started in England...
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 30, 2012, 06:02:33 PM
Egyptians had mystery schools where secrets of the universe were learned. Egyptians even mastered flight and anti gravity.

I also suggest that you look into the ancient India and study Vedas, that civilization also had flight and the aircraft was called Vimana.

Do you have sources for these claims?  Why would our "classroom teachers" want to hide this?  What would be gained? 

If these ancient civilizations had this amazing technology and understanding of the world, what happened to them?  Why was this technology and information lost (and if it was lost, how do we know they had it)?  And if there are those today who know about it, why aren't they replicating the technology and spreading the word?  If this information is so "easily found" how are people kept so clueless, and by whom?  Why?

While I don't debate the difficulty and cost of replicating the Pyramids, what makes you think we couldn't build them today?

Edit:  By the way, I have seen the carvings which seem to depict what we consider flying machines (dirigibles, planes, helicopters, etc.).  But I've also seen logical arguments explaining those carvings (meaning, showing they don't represent planes, etc.).  Also, if they had some sort of technology far beyond what we have now, why would we presume to recognize it from a wall carving?  How would we know what a super advanced, ancient egyptian aircraft would look like?  I've seen the hypotheses and musings about the possibility of Egypt and others having advanced technology, but it has all been based on very weak "evidence" and was basically nothing more than wild speculation.  You state it as if it's fact and anyone can descover these facts for themselves, yet we simultaneously don't understand it and it's being kept from us. 

Edit #2:  I also wonder what this has to do with the original topic.


You asked a lot of questions so let me try to answer them briefly. Of course I have sources for these claims. Like I said they are easily found on the internet. Just google "Vimana Shastra" or do extensive search on Egyptian technology. I can post few links but that would mean spoon feeding you information and I don't believe in it. Few links also wouldn't do justice to this broad topic, there are plenty of good information about this online google will do the trick.  Now why would a classroom teacher (mainstream academia) hide this information? Mainly because ancient technology required no oil or fuel, they used free energy, levitation and anti gravity, utilizing solar energy and crystals. This technology is actually very cheap, so if we were told the truth, we would demand this technology for ourselves and all oil companies will go out of business overnight. So this is one reason why you are being mislead by conspiracy (mainstream academia) Second reason of why classroom teacher is full of shit is because if they admit to you that the ancient cultures were indeed advanced, it would rewrite an entire human history and severely challenge the theory of evolution, which is basically the bible of the New World Order and that is something they will never give up. So yes they will continue to teach you that our modern world is the most advanced ever existed.

Vedas and other ancient texts state that the world already ended few times due to natural disasters and also wars between various civilizations. These ancient technologies are thousands of years old, so this is why perhaps most of it is lost. However not all of it is lost and I believe most of it is held in the possession of the conspiracy. I honestly think that we haven't invented an airplane, rocket, submarine, automobile and other technologies, I think we simply recreated something that we found, something that the ancients had.

The problem is that we live in capitalist society where its not about science or technology but about money and profit. I mean look what happened to Tesla, he was ready to give the world free energy and look what they did to him and his works. 

I mean you think that the governments of this planet are some benevolent beings that always serve the people with best science and best possible inventions known to men? That is the furthest from the truth, they deny us true technology and grab all the best for themselves, feeding us disinformation and indoctrinate us with falsehood every day.

But a simple research will tell you that the ancient world was extremely spiritual, extremely technologically advanced and very civilized. Another reason why the ancients are presented to be primitive is because most of this ancient civilizations were non white.  Our modern academia is dominated by Western culture and may they are too afraid to admit that non whites were once capable of great things. We were taught that all great technology came from the West and that white man invented everything. So of course they are going to completely discredit Egypt, Babylon, ancient Maya or India.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: MrT on May 30, 2012, 06:37:01 PM
Lots of stuff.

I appreciate you taking the time to actually write out a response.

While I don't share your beliefs on the subject, I have been reading a bit since my last post, and it is interesting.  I haven't yet seen anything in the way of proof (particularly of a worldwide conspiracy involving oil, perpetual energy, racism, etc.), but there is some interesting reading out there.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 30, 2012, 07:43:54 PM
Thank you Mr T for having an open mind, and also keep in mind that whatever the conspiracy claims as prove or true, does not  really mean that its the case. I strongly suggest that you do some research on ancient aircraft called Vimanas, they are described in details on multiple websites.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 30, 2012, 07:47:08 PM
The current organization started in England...

That makes it even MORE interesting that it's mostly Americans. The plot thickens!
Hmm so perhaps something about the United States is stimulating and encouraging Flat-Earth-itis. Any suggestions people? I'm thinking that, despite the USA overall being a wealthy and considerably educated nation, Americans have developed a reputation for being somewhat ignorant about the rest of the world. An example would be vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin allegedly believing Africa to be a country.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 30, 2012, 07:52:48 PM
The current organization started in England...

That makes it even MORE interesting that it's mostly Americans. The plot thickens!
Hmm so perhaps something about the United States is stimulating and encouraging Flat-Earth-itis. Any suggestions people? I'm thinking that, despite the USA overall being a wealthy and considerably educated nation, Americans have developed a reputation for being somewhat ignorant about the rest of the world. An example would be vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin allegedly believing Africa to be a country.
Thoughts?

Seriously, read Thork's contribution to this thread, you are making yourself look like an ass.  You expect us to read your drivel, you could at least return the favor.

Also, a great many prominent FEers are, in fact, British.  You really should lurk moar.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 30, 2012, 07:58:59 PM
The Society has its origins in the United Kingdom, as you would know if you had done any research. It stayed there until the late 1960s, at which point its locus shifted to the United States. Voliva lived in Australia for a number of years. And though our current President is from America, he lives in London. I am the Vice President, and I live in Ireland (and was born in the UK).


In short, your thesis is nonsense. Please read more and post less.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 30, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
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It stayed there until the late 1960s, at which point its locus shifted to the United States.

Yeah, and I'm asking WHY IS THAT SO. You are the one who should read more. Like for example reading the opening post of the thread in which you are posting.
Stop wearing out your keyboard if you can't provide useful information or discussion about WHY the FES is more popular in the USA.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on May 30, 2012, 08:44:18 PM
Your thesis is nonsense, for the reasons Wilmore mentioned that you didn't quote.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 30, 2012, 08:56:22 PM
Interesting. Voliva lived in Australia. The society began in Britain. And yet you are still widely considered to be fringe lunatics by the few people who have even heard of the society.
The conclusion is that the FES has indeed has ample opportunity to prove itself valid to all the 'corners' (please excuse that poor joke) of the world. And it has failed. Exactly why it failed is a question you must ask yourselves. I would guess it has something to do with the FES being completely wrong about everything it stands for.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 30, 2012, 11:53:42 PM
Lord Oddfish where are you from to bash America so much? Are you from Afghanistan by any chance? You also provide zero evidence to combat the FE theory. You keep saying its wrong, its stupid, its ridiculous, can you justify your outlandish claims please! Have you personally been to outer space and saw the earth as a ball?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on May 31, 2012, 01:19:31 AM
You also provide zero evidence to combat the FE theory.

Incorrect. I have previously proposed a simple experiment to prove that the sun is much much further away than 3000 miles up. I suggest you read the thread, conduct the experiment, and then report back to me for the aforementioned spanking and "I told you so".
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52644.0 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52644.0)

Also, have YOU been to space and observed the earth as a flat disc? Have you flown or sailed to the 'ice wall'?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 31, 2012, 02:16:02 AM
Yeah, and I'm asking WHY IS THAT SO. You are the one who should read more. Like for example reading the opening post of the thread in which you are posting.
Stop wearing out your keyboard if you can't provide useful information or discussion about WHY the FES is more popular in the USA.


Please read more and post less.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: New Earth on May 31, 2012, 11:37:32 AM
You also provide zero evidence to combat the FE theory.

Incorrect. I have previously proposed a simple experiment to prove that the sun is much much further away than 3000 miles up. I suggest you read the thread, conduct the experiment, and then report back to me for the aforementioned spanking and "I told you so".
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52644.0 (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52644.0)

Also, have YOU been to space and observed the earth as a flat disc? Have you flown or sailed to the 'ice wall'?


I haven't been to space because there is no outer space. The earth is infinite horizontally and vertically.  Like Levee once said there are no other planets besides infinite earth. And by the way Oddfish the earth is not flat, infinite objects have no shape.

Bible says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The heavens is the infinite atmosphere where Sun, Moon and the stars are located, but by no means they are distant galaxies or separate independent planets and suns, our universe is infect the Earth.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on May 31, 2012, 12:15:54 PM
If you truly believe that I fear for the future of modern science and humanity is general. Do us all a favor and do not spread your lies, humans are gullible and we would not want any more of that going around. I do not need to post anything in the realm of evidence because that would be considered an attempt to disprove what you believe, what you believe is so outrageous it need not be disproved, because it does not even exist in the first place.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: hoppy on May 31, 2012, 01:20:30 PM
NE I believe you have misquoted God. In the beggining God created the heaven and the earth. KJV.  New age bibles and the NIV say heavens, which is wrong. It is a slight difference , but you know that the devil will twist slightly what God says to confuse people,even if just a little bit at a time.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on May 31, 2012, 03:07:17 PM
NE I believe you have misquoted God. In the beggining God created the heaven and the earth. KJV.  New age bibles and the NIV say heavens, which is wrong. It is a slight difference , but you know that the devil will twist slightly what God says to confuse people,even if just a little bit at a time.

are you saying that the devil had a hand in writing the bible?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Pongo on May 31, 2012, 03:10:39 PM
This thread has the potential do go dangerously off it's already precarious topic.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on May 31, 2012, 03:16:19 PM
This thread has the potential do go dangerously off it's already precarious topic.

I agree, sorry Pongo, I did not mean to be a contributor to the derailment of this topic.

On topic, I have to say that an accusation about FE being only in America and it being a disease is pretty false. Ideas can not be considered an illness, they can be wrong and poorly thought out, but not an illness. Using America as a example seems to be a new trend in anything that is going wrong in the world.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: hoppy on May 31, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
NE I believe you have misquoted God. In the beggining God created the heaven and the earth. KJV.  New age bibles and the NIV say heavens, which is wrong. It is a slight difference , but you know that the devil will twist slightly what God says to confuse people,even if just a little bit at a time.

are you saying that the devil had a hand in writing the bible?
The devil did not write the KJV, but he did have a hand in writing the NIV and other bibles.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Ski on May 31, 2012, 06:07:08 PM
NE I believe you have misquoted God. In the beggining God created the heaven and the earth. KJV.  New age bibles and the NIV say heavens, which is wrong. It is a slight difference , but you know that the devil will twist slightly what God says to confuse people,even if just a little bit at a time.

The word used in Bereshit is "shamayim" which is plural.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on May 31, 2012, 10:45:30 PM
NE I believe you have misquoted God. In the beggining God created the heaven and the earth. KJV.  New age bibles and the NIV say heavens, which is wrong. It is a slight difference , but you know that the devil will twist slightly what God says to confuse people,even if just a little bit at a time.

are you saying that the devil had a hand in writing the bible?
The devil did not write the KJV, but he did have a hand in writing the NIV and other bibles.

Hey Hoppy, Does that mean most modern bibles are incorrect? please do not take this as me arguing with you , I am really just asking a question I do not know anything about this subject, but I am curious about the subject. Is modern religion interpreting the bible incorrectly? Do most modern Christians that use the King James bible not worship the correct way? Once again I really am not trying to start an argument I just would like to hear what the background of this claim is. I do not follow religion  so I do not know enough about this subject to even try to claim anything.  So take my questions with a grain of salt if you want to, I would just like to know some facts.

I was in catholic school for 4 years, I am Polish hence why I am catholic, to a degree I kind of stopped with religion after pope John Paul II claimed limbo is false sense I do not believe any human can claim God is wrong in anything So if humans deem God is wrong God must not exist and is just a made up means to control the masses.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on June 03, 2012, 06:23:20 PM
I haven't been to space because there is no outer space. The earth is infinite horizontally and vertically.  Like Levee once said there are no other planets besides infinite earth. And by the way Oddfish the earth is not flat, infinite objects have no shape.

Bible says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The heavens is the infinite atmosphere where Sun, Moon and the stars are located, but by no means they are distant galaxies or separate independent planets and suns, our universe is infect the Earth.

LOL. Ok so I can just say "America doesn't exist" because I've never been there? Wow, come on.
The bible also says it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery. And people who work on saturday should have their heads cut off.
On topic, I have to say that an accusation about FE being only in America and it being a disease is pretty false. Ideas can not be considered an illness, they can be wrong and poorly thought out, but not an illness. Using America as a example seems to be a new trend in anything that is going wrong in the world.

Yeah the 'intellectual maleria' thing was a (thinly, I thought) veiled insult/joke that I threw in there. Flat-earth-itis? Come on as if I'm being serious about it being a disease  :D
I was just trying to get the conversation fired up. I don't have anything against Americans in general but I will say they have a reputation for being under-educated about the rest of the world, and I think that really does contribute to people believing flat earth mumbo jumbo.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 03, 2012, 07:05:45 PM
Lord Oddflush, do you mind telling us in which country you reside?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on June 03, 2012, 07:15:38 PM
Australia.
You know, that place which some FE literature claims doesn't even exist.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 03, 2012, 07:26:06 PM
Fosters, Australian for beer.

Get a sense of humor, dude.  You said you are a comedian.  I have yet to read anything funny from you.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on June 03, 2012, 07:51:03 PM
Fosters, Australian for beer.

Get a sense of humor, dude.  You said you are a comedian.  I have yet to read anything funny from you.

The FES is indeed far more hilarious than I will ever be.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 03, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
Tis true, you soggy rag.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Demouse on June 03, 2012, 11:47:11 PM
I've actually noticed that of the people who come here to troll/make fun of/debate against the flat earthers there is a dispropotionately large number of us Aussies.

Coincidence? I'm sure it isn't that people from other countries have more respect for the concept of a flat earth. Why are there so many Aussies here then?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on June 03, 2012, 11:53:26 PM
I've actually noticed that of the people who come here to troll/make fun of/debate against the flat earthers there is a dispropotionately large number of us Aussies.

Coincidence? I'm sure it isn't that people from other countries have more respect for the concept of a flat earth. Why are there so many Aussies here then?

Earn your respect by proving your outrageous claims.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 04, 2012, 12:01:03 AM
I've actually noticed that of the people who come here to troll/make fun of/debate against the flat earthers there is a dispropotionately large number of us Aussies.

Coincidence? I'm sure it isn't that people from other countries have more respect for the concept of a flat earth. Why are there so many Aussies here then?

Australia does not exist.  They are the conspiracy. 
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Demouse on June 04, 2012, 12:04:17 AM
I've actually noticed that of the people who come here to troll/make fun of/debate against the flat earthers there is a dispropotionately large number of us Aussies.

Coincidence? I'm sure it isn't that people from other countries have more respect for the concept of a flat earth. Why are there so many Aussies here then?

Australia does not exist.  They are the conspiracy.


Well this is a new development. Last time I was here the generally accepted map of the Flat Earth included Australia.

Now I have to prove I exist?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 04, 2012, 12:11:19 AM
If you believe that you live in Australia, it is because the conspiracy wants you to believe it.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Oddfish on June 04, 2012, 12:22:38 AM
If you believe that you live in Australia, it is because the conspiracy wants you to believe it.

 :o
Oh I thought you were actually a FEer. So I've been wasting my time arguing with a troll who doesn't actually believe FET?
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 04, 2012, 12:29:02 AM
Just a bit of humor based on a previous thread. 
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on June 04, 2012, 04:29:03 AM
If you believe that you live in Australia, it is because the conspiracy wants you to believe it.

 :o
Oh I thought you were actually a FEer. So I've been wasting my time arguing with a troll who doesn't actually believe FET?

Welcome to FES!  :)
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: drevko on June 10, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
Why is it so concentrated in the USA?

The same reasons the US has so many religious sects, it was a massive new country, impossible to control.

The American Dream wasn't about money, it was freedom from religious persecution in Europe, and the tight control of the already formed strong governments.

The US still keeps homeschooling and a sense of self-reliance, it's less city based, except for the ugly coast.

And fighting the British and the Vatican influence may have helped, Modern Astronomy spread from these two centers.

And I'm Spaniard by the way.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: James on June 10, 2012, 04:38:37 PM
The UK has a flourishing Flat Earth movement, and has since the 19th Century.  I am British, and many of my friends are Flat Earth believers (I am one). The UK was the birthplace of modern Zetetic Science, with such giants as Samuel Rowbotham, Lady Blount, John Hampden, William Carpenter, D W Scott and Samuel Shenton to our name.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on June 10, 2012, 05:38:37 PM
The UK has a flourishing Flat Earth movement, and has since the 19th Century.  I am British, and many of my friends are Flat Earth believers (I am one). The UK was the birthplace of modern Zetetic Science, with such giants as Samuel Rowbotham, Lady Blount, John Hampden, William Carpenter, D W Scott and Samuel Shenton to our name.

All of whom are not excepted in the scientific community... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Did I shed enough tears for you! BAM! Emerald Lagasse!!!!
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Saddam Hussein on June 10, 2012, 05:47:49 PM
The UK has a flourishing Flat Earth movement, and has since the 19th Century.  I am British, and many of my friends are Flat Earth believers (I am one). The UK was the birthplace of modern Zetetic Science, with such giants as Samuel Rowbotham, Lady Blount, John Hampden, William Carpenter, D W Scott and Samuel Shenton to our name.

All of whom are not excepted in the scientific community... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Did I shed enough tears for you! BAM! Emerald Lagasse!!!!

Accepted.  And of course they wouldn't be, considering the scientific community's dogmatic position on RET.  I doubt that any of the giants that James mentioned would even want acceptance from such a community.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: Lord Wilmore on June 10, 2012, 06:42:52 PM
All of whom are not excepted in the scientific community...


We do not want to be accepted by scientists, precisely because we disagree with the scientific method. We practise the Zetetic Method.
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: BoatswainsMate on June 10, 2012, 08:12:29 PM
The UK has a flourishing Flat Earth movement, and has since the 19th Century.  I am British, and many of my friends are Flat Earth believers (I am one). The UK was the birthplace of modern Zetetic Science, with such giants as Samuel Rowbotham, Lady Blount, John Hampden, William Carpenter, D W Scott and Samuel Shenton to our name.

All of whom are not excepted in the scientific community... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Did I shed enough tears for you! BAM! Emerald Lagasse!!!!

Accepted.  And of course they wouldn't be, considering the scientific community's dogmatic position on RET.  I doubt that any of the giants that James mentioned would even want acceptance from such a community.

not gonna lie, I wish Steven Hawkings would acknowledge me  :'( :'( :'(

On another note, individuality is awesome and to be honest most scientist that have major breakthroughs where not accepted by the majority  >o< :-B
Title: Re: The anomaly of flat-earther population distribution.
Post by: John Davis on June 17, 2012, 08:04:32 AM
The Society has its origins in the United Kingdom, as you would know if you had done any research. It stayed there until the late 1960s, at which point its locus shifted to the United States. Voliva lived in Australia for a number of years. And though our current President is from America, he lives in London. I am the Vice President, and I live in Ireland (and was born in the UK).


In short, your thesis is nonsense. Please read more and post less.
In addition to this,

At the time it existed and focused in the US there were also Canadian groups present.  In fact, Canada has had many flat earth societies in its history.  I myself being Canadian as well.  Many Muslim and Muslim countries also hold that the earth is flat.  The UK is the birthplace and still a stronghold of flat earth philosophy and science. 

It gained popularity in the US due to two major factors imho.  One is the religious stronghold of the South.  Biblical literalism (and indeed literalism applied to almost any of the multitude of various ancient to modern religious worldviews) lends itself markedly well to flat earth worldviews.  Perhaps this has to do with an innate bond between faith's ends and reason's function, though that is speculation alone.

Secondly, and perhaps more relevant to the current state, the backlash at the ignorant science being shouted from just about every media outlet within the US has not gone unnoticed.  US news is a dreadful circus compared to reputable world news sources and this when coupled with the love affair America has with what they call 'science' will inevitably lead to educated and intellectual free thinkers turning to more reasonable and honest outlets - those devoid of religious mindsets; sometimes those might even turn to the often out of hand rejected sciences and damned facts that academia turns down from their ivory tower.