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Title: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 05, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions (http://)



(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L7N189l6R90/Tx92XVyE5wI/AAAAAAAADFM/bFS8D89P4fI/s400/full-moon.jpg)



Since the dawn of history, the Moon has possessed an almost unequalled hold over the imagination of man, provoking by turns fascination and even worship. Mankind has studied the Moon for thousands of years, and some human depictions of its luminescent features may be over 5,000 years old (http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Earth/OldStarCharts.html).


However for as long as man has revered the Moon, he has also feared it. This topic will chronicle how ancient cultures have perceived the Moon's harmful effects, how modern studies (both scientific and Zetetic) corroborate this view, and how and when to prepare to prepare for periods of high lunar activity and/or exposure. It will also provide a Zetetic Lunar Calendar, and a forecast/record of impending/past spikes in Lunar activity:


1. Moonlight: Historical & Socio-Cultural Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342370#msg1342370)

2. Moonlight: Scientific & Zetetic Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342371#msg1342371)

3. Moonlight: Precautions & Preparations (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342372#msg1342372)

4. The Zetetic Lunar Calendar (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342373#msg1342373)

5. The Lunar Forecast (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342894#msg1342894)


Alarmism is not our aim here at the Flat Earth Society, but the threat presented by contact with Lunar rays is significant, and the mainstream media has proven unwilling to alert the public to the evidence for and dangers of this hazard. Our only goal is to make sure that you and your loved ones remain safe.


Any suggestions regarding additions or improvements should be posted in this topic (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54426.0).
Title: Moonlight: Historical & Socio-Cultural Perspectives
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 05, 2012, 10:21:09 PM
Moonlight: Historical & Socio-Cultural Perspectives


Among the earliest of cultures to recognise the power of Moonlight were Assyria and Babylonia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_effect), who considered it to have an notable effect on the fertility of women, though whether this was a positive or negative effect is unknown. Both Aristotle and the Roman historian Pliny the Elder are known to have associated the Moon with insanity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon#In_culture), and as early as the 13th century, the term "lunatic" was in use, derived from the Latin word for Moon, "luna". It is probable that the word has earlier origins, perhaps going back to the original Roman-era Latin. The Romans even believed that Moonlight solidified to form the gem known as Moonstone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonstone_(gemstone)#History). What's clear is that the Moon was clearly regarded as having the ability to affect terrestrial matter, and the association between the Lunar cycle and insanity was clearly established well over 2,000 years ago.


Indeed, once the work of the Ancients was recovered in Western Europe, these observations quickly took on canonical status in Western medicine and psychology. The German-Swiss physician Paracelsus contended that mania was directly linked with the Lunar cycle, as did the English jurist Lord Blackstone, and the German psychologist Ewald Hering (http://www.jad-journal.com/article/S0165-0327(99)00016-6/abstract). Indeed, in the Bethlehem hospital in London, it was found necessary to chain and in some cases flog inmates in order to "prevent violence" during certain phases of the Lunar cycle1.


Moonlight has also been associated with other strange effects and powers, most notably lycanthropy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycanthropy#Regional_varieties), the phenomena whereby a human possesses the ability to turn into a wolf, or transform into a Werewolf, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werewolf) a creature that shares the characteristics of wolf and man. Werewolves and their capacity to transform were "often associated with the appearance of the full moon", so that "it was said that a man or woman could turn into a werewolf if he or she . . . slept outside on a summer night with the full moon shining directly on his face". Furthermore, "[i]n some cultures, individuals born during a new moon or suffering from epilepsy were considered likely to be werewolves". Although the existence of Werewolves is the subject of dispute, it represents an ancient, cross-cultural association between Moonlight, abnormality, danger and derangement, one that persists to this very day, as can be seen in Neil Jordan's The Company of Wolves (http://).


It is therefore apparent that throughout much of recent human history, enlightened thinkers and medical experts and ancient cultures have identified the Moon's power to affect man's cogitation, and to distort and warp his ability to reason when under the influence of its beams.





1. Oliven J. Moonlight and nervous disorders. Am J Psychiatry 1943;99:579-84.
Title: Moonlight: Scientific & Zetetic Perspectives
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 05, 2012, 10:22:04 PM
Moonlight: Scientific & Zetetic Perspectives


The question of the Moon's capacity to harm or endanger humans was largely ignored by scientists during the late 19th century and for much of the 20th century, no doubt due to their belief that the Moon was a dead world that merely reflected the light of the Sun. The general public's increasing ignorance was perhaps as a result of increased electrification, and a resulting decrease in awareness with respect to the all-pervasive nature of the Moon's rays, which no doubt would have been more obvious prior to the advent of continuous street-lighting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_light#History) and reliable portable illumination such as flashlights (http://#t=3m31s).


Nevertheless, the experiences of sensitive professions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_effect#Law_and_order) forced scientists to examine the Moon's capacity to affect human behaviour. The resulting research has provoked considerable debate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_effect#Scientific_research_on_the_theory) within the scientific community, with many scientists affirming the Moon's power, and others contesting their results. However, given the methodological flaws of the scientific method (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=48821.0), such dispute is far from surprising.


In contrast, since the creation of the Zetetic Method (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za04.htm), its followers have had no doubt as to the power of the Moon and the dangers presented by Moonlight. In his seminal treatise, Zetetic Astronomy: Earth Not a Globe, Dr Samuel Birley Rowbotham determined not only that the Moon's rays are of a different and independent composition to those of the Sun (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm#fr_31), but also that exposure to its rays can prove most injurious, resulting in the spoiling of food such that it is dangerous to eat, and that it can even cause blindness if direct exposure to its rays is prolonged. The Moon's capacity to damage terrestrial flora (which is exposed to Moonlight more often and more regularly than most humans) has been established not only by Zetetics in the 19th century (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29431.msg713325#msg713325), but also by contemporary (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=34082.0) researchers (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=36906.0). Moreover, a number of Zetetics (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=46634.0) have observed a variety of detrimental health effects under its influence, such that within the Zetetic community there is a broad consensus regarding the Moon's capacity to harm biological lifeforms with its bioluminescent rays (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0).
Title: Moonlight: Preparation & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 05, 2012, 10:22:56 PM
Moonlight: Preparation & Precautions


Of course, the natural response when presented with such compelling evidence is to ask how one can avoid the risks posed by Lunar rays. Unfortunately, the Moon is an almost ever-present feature of our lives, and it emits its injurious beams for a considerable period almost every twenty-four hours.


The most important step, therefore, is to be aware of when such emissions are most likely to take place. Thankfully the Moon's emanations are regular, and therefore with sufficient research can be predicted, so that one can take steps to avoid it when it is most dangerous. Depending on your location, the apparent state of the Lunar cycle may vary, so we advise that you conduct independent, Zetetically rigorous research, preferably through remote means such as video cameras or specialized means of filtrating and projecting its light. You will soon record a cycle lasting approximately nine and-a-half days, punctuated by varying but regular degrees of Lunar emissions.


As the above research indicates that the harmful effects of the Moon correspond with the quantity of Moonlight to which one is exposed, the Full Moon is obviously particularly dangerous, as indeed are the Waxing and Waning Gibbous. Exposure to Moonlight during these periods should be kept to a bare minimum, and ideally should be limited to situations where contact is either necessary or unavoidable. The Waxing and Waning Crescent are obviously less dangerous, but nevertheless it is advised that one should not be foolhardy, as the limited amount of light produced by the Moon during these periods will be more than offset by any extensive exposure.


During the standard Lunar cycle, keeping regular hours and remaining indoors after dark should be enough to prevent illness in the majority of cases. However, many people may find themselves in situations where they are forced to expose themselves to Moonlight. In such cases, noted Zetetic James MacIntyre has the following advice:


When viewing the Moon, or expecting to face exposure to the Moon, please try to follow these procedures:

  • Wear sunglasses - Dark glasses may protect your eyes, which are particularly sensitive, from Moon rays which can damage your eyes.
  • Cover any exposed skin - Cases of Moonlight exposure to bare skin can be particularly severe. Always wear long sleeves, gloves and a hat. A balaclava or thick scarf can protect your nose, mouth, cheeks and ears from the Moon.


He also advises that even when one is inside, one should ensure that your shelter is adequately sealed and protected:


  • Protect your home - Moonlight can seep in through uncovered windows, doors and skylights. Make sure that you have thick curtains, or, better still, shutters on major windows which are likely to face the Moon. You may find it useful to tape reflective material, such as aluminium foil (shiny side out) on gaps in your home, or even on the windows themselves, in order to improve Moon-protection further.


Finally, one should take precautions to ensure the safety of any other biological life for which you may be responsible:


  • Make sure your pets are safe - The Moon can hurt animals just as much as humans. Consider bringing your pets indoors during the evening, or if you intend to let them roam the night, you may want to wrap them up in protective clothing just as you did with yourself!
  • Watch out for plants - Moonlight can putrefy many varieties of unsuspecting garden plant. Most flowers close their petals at night in order to protect them from Moon rays, but during the Super-harvest Moon this may not be enough. You may want to cover even self-defending flowers and other plants with aluminium foil or another protective material.


Though such measures should prove sufficent during the standard Lunar cycle, there are also occasional spikes in Lunar radiance, notably events such as the Super Moon (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=46826.0) and Super Harvest Moon (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42785.0). Though rare, during these events the Moon's intensity is noticeably greater, and thus its effects are especially powerful. During these crises, MacIntyre suggests that "it may be safer to stay indoors entirely and avoid exposure" (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42785.msg1060617#msg1060617). Indeed, some have even suggested that such events may cause an increase in the number of natural disasters here on Earth (http://www.astropro.com/features/articles/supermoon/). Accordingly, it may best to store or stockpile the following items:




So that our members are aware of such crises, we will endeavour to keep an updated list of immanent Super Moon events, detailing the date, duration and (when possible) intensity of these spikes in Lunar activity.
Title: The Zetetic Lunar Calendar
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 05, 2012, 10:23:19 PM
The Zetetic Lunar Calendar


Ancient cultures across the world and throughout history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_moon#Full_moon_names) have given names to the first Full Moon of a given month, and following the wisdom of the ancients, I consider this a useful way to categorise and refer to Lunar phenomena. However, as a host of different names exist, I felt it would be wise to create a Zetetic Lunar Calendar, choosing 12 names from among the various appellative Lunar traditions. This provides us with a common vocabulary with which to discuss Lunar events.


The Zetetic Lunar Calendar is as follows:


January: The Wolf Moon

February: The Hunger Moon

March: The Death Moon

April: The Waking Moon

May: The Milk Moon

June: The Hot Moon

July: The Mead Moon

August: The Red Moon

September: The Harvest Moon

October: The Dying Grass Moon

November: The Hunter's Moon

December: The Oak Moon


These names will be also be used in the Lunar Forecast (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342894#msg1342894) below.
Title: The Lunar Forecast
Post by: Lord Wilmore on May 06, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
The Lunar Forecast


Impending Events:


May 25, 2013

Category: Super Milk Moon
Outlook: 15 - 30% brighter than average. Moderate to high-intensity (provisional).
Advice: Stay indoors.


June 23, 2013

Category: Super Hot Moon
Outlook: 15 - 30% brighter than average. Moderate to high-intensity (provisional).
Advice: Stay indoors.


July 22, 2013

Category: Super Mead Moon
Outlook: 15 - 30% brighter than average. Moderate to high-intensity (provisional).
Advice: Stay indoors.


Previous Events:


May 21st, 2012

Category: Annular Eclipse
Outlook: Normal
Advice: Take basic precautions


May 5th, 2012.

Category: Super Moon.
Outlook: 16-30% brighter than average. Moderate to high intensity.
Advice: Stay indoors.

Credit goes to Space Cowgirl for the heads-up.


March 19th, 2011.

Category: Super Moon.
Outlook: 30% brighter. High intensity.
Advice: Seek shelter and take all possible precautions.

Credit: Pongo


September 24th, 2010.

Category: Super Harvest Moon.
Outlook: Medium intensity.
Advice: Stay indoors.

Credit: Ichimaru Gin/James MacIntyre
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Ichimaru Gin :] on November 02, 2012, 06:07:06 PM
Moonlight burns were just mentioned on ABC's primetime show: Sharktank.

These millionaires and billionaires know the truth. Too bad they'd rather make money than warn more people.

Here is the bio of the shark that mentioned it:
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O'Leary started a software company in the basement of a small Toronto home along with partners John Freeman and Gary Babcock. His mother provided the seed investment of $10,000, which he used to start software publisher SoftKey. Softkey products typically consisted of software intended for home audiences, especially compilation discs containing various freeware or shareware game software packaged in a "jewel-case" CD-ROM. By 1994, Softkey had become a major consolidator in the educational software market, acquiring no less than sixty rivals, such as WordStar and Spinnaker Software. In 1995, Softkey acquired The Learning Company (TLC) for $606 million, moved its headquarters to Boston, and took The Learning Company as its name. TLC bought its former rival Brøderbund in June 1998 for $416 million. In 1999, The Learning Company and its 467 software titles were acquired by Mattel in a $3.8 billion stock swap.[5] Sales and earnings for Mattel soon dropped, and O'Leary departed from Mattel. The purchase by Mattel was later called one of the most disastrous acquisitions in history.[6]
 
In 2003 he became co-investor and a director in Storage Now, a developer of climate controlled storage facilities. Through a series of development projects and acquisitions, Storage Now became Canada’s third largest owner/operator of storage services with facilities located in eleven cities serving such companies as Merck and Pfizer when it was acquired by the In Storage REIT in March 2007 for $110 million.[citation needed]
 
In March 2007 O'Leary joined the advisory board of Genstar Capital, a private equity firm that focuses on investments in selected segments of life science and healthcare services, industrial technology, business services and software. Genstar Capital appointed O'Leary to its Strategic Advisory Board to seek new investment opportunities for its $1.2 billion fund. O’Leary also serves on the executive board of the Richard Ivey School of Business at The University of Western Ontario. He is a member of the investment committee of Boston’s 107 year old Hamilton Trust and an investor of EnGlobe, a TSX listed company.[citation needed] He is a former co-host of SqueezePlay on Business News Network, Canada’s national business television specialty channel. O’Leary is currently working as the entrepreneur/investor co-host for the Discovery Channel’s Discovery Project Earth, a project that explores innovative ways man could reverse climate change.[7]
 
O'Leary serves as foil to Journalist Amanda Lang on The Lang and O'Leary Exchange on CBC News Network. He is also a venture capitalist on the Canadian version of Dragons' Den and host of Redemption Inc. which both air on CBC Television, and a "shark" on the United States' version of Dragons' Den, Shark Tank, which airs on ABC.
 
In January 2008 he co-founded O'Leary Funds Inc., a mutual fund company that targets buy and hold investors. He is the company's chairman.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on November 03, 2012, 02:57:31 AM
Yes it is sad that a very small percentage of humans have a recessive anti-moonlight gene.
I think we should start a FES Telethon to raise money for these poor people.
Title: Re: The Lunar Forecast
Post by: carlosgf on February 13, 2013, 11:02:42 AM
The Lunar Forecast

Hello,

Is there any new Super-Moon event for this year?
Title: Re: The Zetetic Lunar Calendar
Post by: carlosgf on February 13, 2013, 11:18:14 AM
The Zetetic Lunar Calendar

Ancient cultures

The Zetetic Lunar Calendar is as follows:


January: The Wolf Moon
February: The Hunger Moon
March: The Death Moon
April: The Waking Moon
May: The Milk Moon
June: The Hot Moon
July: The Mead Moon
August: The Red Moon
September: The Harvest Moon
October: The Dying Grass Moon
November: The Hunter's Moon
December: The Oak Moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_moon#Full_moon_names)

I found this lunar calendar to be inspiring.
I have been doing (reading and watching videos) some courses around Internet related to Astrology and I found this post to be linked in some sort to the names given to the moon.

I will bring the names and the relation of the zodiac symbols to their respective moon´s name.

(my native language is not English. Hope it will be clear for you)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: A Doubter on March 30, 2013, 10:17:39 AM
And this is a sticky?

WTF has this got to do with a flat earth?  Or is it a case of who you know?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 01, 2013, 07:07:39 PM
Updateded the Lunar Forcast to warn of pending Super Moon event in May.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 01, 2013, 07:16:29 PM
Consequently, this will be a Super Milk Moon.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: carlosgf on April 02, 2013, 12:30:56 PM
Consequently, this will be a Super Milk Moon.

The lunar event on the 25 of May, even despite it is told to be of "0,01" magnitude, almost visually imperceptible, is it still dangerous?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 03, 2013, 09:46:42 PM
Consequently, this will be a Super Milk Moon.

Ladies and gentlemen, he'll be here all week, be sure to tip your waitresses and bartenders.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on April 05, 2013, 09:23:01 AM
Consequently, this will be a Super Milk Moon.

Ladies and gentlemen, he'll be here all week, be sure to tip your waitresses and bartenders.

Nope.  He's on tour right now, so check the schedule for future dates.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 23, 2013, 04:08:44 PM
Updated to draw intention to an intense summer of lunar activity. A Super Hot Moon and a Super Mead Moon will follow May's Super Milk Moon in June and July respectively.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on April 24, 2013, 04:05:41 PM
break out the moon block lotion 100 with the recessive moon gene...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on April 24, 2013, 06:37:20 PM
break out the moon block lotion 100 with the recessive moon gene...

Silence, naysayer.  This is a very real danger and dammit I will not have you jeer at it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on April 28, 2013, 04:14:26 PM
I only suggest those that are affected do something to prevent it.
If you are not affected, as I, there is no worries.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: jason_85 on April 28, 2013, 04:41:56 PM
Why is this not in CN? It has nothing to do with anything. Can I start a post about the supernatural powers of Goji juice in FE general?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Thork on April 28, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
Why is this not in CN? It has nothing to do with anything. Can I start a post about the supernatural powers of Goji juice in FE general?
The power of the moon has always been a large part of the society, right back to the days of Samuel Rowbotham. There is nothing about Goji juice, however.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on April 28, 2013, 05:27:50 PM
I agree, this should remain here for those unfortunate to have the recessive moonlight gene.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 28, 2013, 06:00:55 PM
Why is this not in CN? It has nothing to do with anything. Can I start a post about the supernatural powers of Goji juice in FE general?


Read Earth Not a Globe. (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm#fr_31) This section was linked to in my original post, had you taken the time to read it.


And no.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on April 28, 2013, 06:08:21 PM
I only suggest those that are affected do something to prevent it.
If you are not affected, as I, there is no worries.

I agree, this should remain here for those unfortunate to have the recessive moonlight gene.

We get it, okay?  You're not affected by moonlight.  You don't need to keep on telling us this.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on April 28, 2013, 06:26:36 PM
99.9% or more of the worlds population are not affected. But to those that are, take measures.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Bollybill on April 28, 2013, 06:53:20 PM
Is the percentage of affected people higher among individuals who believe in a flat earth?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: odes on April 28, 2013, 07:11:21 PM
Is the percentage of affected people higher among individuals who believe in a flat earth?

Yes, it's called the planebo effect.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: jason_85 on April 28, 2013, 07:40:38 PM
Why is this not in CN? It has nothing to do with anything. Can I start a post about the supernatural powers of Goji juice in FE general?


Read Earth Not a Globe. (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm#fr_31) This section was linked to in my original post, had you taken the time to read it.


And no.

Ok so if I provide a link demonstrating that Rowbotham drank Goji juice I could then start a post on it in FE General, right?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 28, 2013, 07:48:33 PM
Go for it. But if it's rubbish (i.e. a lack of clear textual links to the FES) I'll just move it.


It might be worth your while reading the board-specific guidelines:


This board is for discussion about the Flat Earth Society or the Flat Earth movement in general. For example, if you want to ask questions about The Conspiracy, flat earth believers and their beliefs, or anything else not related to Flat Earth Theory, this is the place for it.


This topic is precisely the kind of subject matter intended to be posted in this board.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: jason_85 on April 28, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
I stand corrected, can't argue with the law.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 28, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
I stand corrected, can't argue with the law.


Well you can, just not in here (S&C only). But thanks for being decent about it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 06, 2013, 06:35:34 PM
I stand corrected, can't argue with the law.


you fought the law, and the law won.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RyanTG on May 25, 2013, 01:54:14 PM
The whole of this is complete and utter pseudoscientific drivel.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 25, 2013, 01:57:04 PM
but Willmore speaks it and that makes it a bannable offense to speak otherwise.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RyanTG on May 25, 2013, 02:22:57 PM
but Willmore speaks it and that makes it a bannable offense to speak otherwise.

I can get banned for saying that?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 25, 2013, 02:29:53 PM
at the very least, you powers will be taken away.
but if that is the case, you were immune.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on May 25, 2013, 03:39:03 PM
Stay safe, my brothers.  The Super Milk Moon is currently upon us.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Rip Riley on May 25, 2013, 04:13:01 PM
I looked at the moon through a telescope and binoculars last night. For what it's worth, I felt kind of sick to my stomach and weak (lacking energy) for the next couple hours. I had no idea what was causing it, but thought of this thread and wondered.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 25, 2013, 04:47:18 PM
I looked at the moon through a telescope and binoculars last night. For what it's worth, I felt kind of sick to my stomach and weak (lacking energy) for the next couple hours. I had no idea what was causing it, but thought of this thread and wondered.


A telescope does not "magnify" the moons "bad" power to those humans (0.01%) to those that may be affected.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RyanTG on May 26, 2013, 12:18:31 AM
I looked at the moon through a telescope and binoculars last night. For what it's worth, I felt kind of sick to my stomach and weak (lacking energy) for the next couple hours. I had no idea what was causing it, but thought of this thread and wondered.

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: TheEarthIsFake on May 29, 2013, 05:47:37 AM
 this is really informative, il make sure i dont get moon burnt at night
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 17, 2013, 06:03:27 PM
this is really informative, il make sure i dont get moon burnt at night


but those who carry the recessive gene can get "burned" at daytime just as easy.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on June 17, 2013, 06:08:37 PM
Recessive genes are not a part of the theory, iwanttobelieve.  Make another thread if you want to formally disagree with this one, but stop pretending that you agree with it so you can slip in little qualifiers that don't actually - why do I even bother?  You're not listening.  Never mind.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 17, 2013, 06:12:40 PM
Recessive genes are not a part of the theory, iwanttobelieve.  Make another thread if you want to formally disagree with this one, but stop pretending that you agree with it so you can slip in little qualifiers that don't actually - why do I even bother?  You're not listening.  Never mind.


I hope Sadaam, you do not carry this very rare recessive gene.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on June 17, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
I don't believe that there is any such gene.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 20, 2013, 11:19:41 AM
Those moon sensitives should beware that the largest supermoon of the year will occur Sunday night.  However, the effects may also be felt Saturday night for those extra sensitive types.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/summer-solstice-2013-friday-98418/ (http://www.christianpost.com/news/summer-solstice-2013-friday-98418/)
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Adding to the excitement of the summer solstice this year, the weekend will also see a "supermoon," where the full moon appeared larger due to its closeness to the Earth.

On Sunday, June 23, the moon peaks in fullness as it coincides with being closest to the Earth in its orbit, also known as perigee.

The moon will be closest to the Earth at 7:32 a.m. EST on Sunday, but can still be seen larger and brighter in the sky on Saturday, June 22.

This year's June supermoon will be the largest of the entire year- the moon will not close as close to the Earth again until August 2014.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on June 20, 2013, 12:38:30 PM
A Super Hot Moon, to be precise.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 22, 2013, 01:34:52 PM
for those that carry the recessive moonlight gene take extra measures against the "super moon"
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: hoppy on July 05, 2013, 07:54:56 AM
for those that carry the recessive moonlight gene take extra measures against the "super moon"
During the super moon a jock strap is a must.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on July 05, 2013, 08:07:27 AM
for those that carry the recessive moonlight gene take extra measures against the "super moon"
During the super moon a jock strap is a must.


reported.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Thork on July 27, 2013, 02:47:22 AM
An important bulletin detailing the dangers of a full moon, was published by the BBC yesterday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23405941 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23405941)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 31, 2013, 05:21:26 PM
An important bulletin detailing the dangers of a full moon, was published by the BBC yesterday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23405941 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23405941)


I would edit my post to include this information, but of course, I can't, because of our hosting service...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Tausami on August 01, 2013, 02:39:56 PM
An important bulletin detailing the dangers of a full moon, was published by the BBC yesterday.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23405941 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-23405941)


I would edit my post to include this information, but of course, I can't, because of our hosting service...

If you remove the url tags from the links you should be able to edit it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on August 02, 2013, 05:50:06 PM
please for those affected, stay indoors during this lunar cycle.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Katamariguy on August 04, 2013, 02:10:28 AM
Yes it is sad that a very small percentage of humans have a recessive anti-moonlight gene.
I think we should start a FES Telethon to raise money for these poor people.

Why do we need to raise money for a group that is more fortunate than others?

If they are lucky enough to be resistant to moonlight, how are they "poor?"
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on August 04, 2013, 06:28:24 AM
When he says "recessive anti-moonlight gene" he means people who are negatively affected by the moon.  As I have pointed out, though, Wilmore, Ichi, and our other moonlight theorists have never said anything about recessive genes or how only some people are hurt by the moon, and I suspect that because of their conclusions from experiments like Ichi's work with plants, they would reject such an idea.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on August 04, 2013, 07:26:07 AM
Just ignore iwanttobelieve like everyone else. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: REphoenix on August 05, 2013, 01:39:14 PM
Ummmm..... OK I'm pretty sure this is a FE joke but i'm going to post anyway. I go camping all the time and we always stay up really late out by the campfire. I have never been affected by the moonlight in any way and none of my fellow campers have ever turned into a werewolf, had internal bleeding, died or even been mildly sick from the moonlight. So are we all just immune or what?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on August 06, 2013, 04:30:59 PM
Ummmm..... OK I'm pretty sure this is a FE joke but i'm going to post anyway. I go camping all the time and we always stay up really late out by the campfire. I have never been affected by the moonlight in any way and none of my fellow campers have ever turned into a werewolf, had internal bleeding, died or even been mildly sick from the moonlight. So are we all just immune or what?


You are most likely immune, sadly a very small population is not.
hoppy and I pray for them.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: REphoenix on August 06, 2013, 04:49:28 PM
Ummmm..... OK I'm pretty sure this is a FE joke but i'm going to post anyway. I go camping all the time and we always stay up really late out by the campfire. I have never been affected by the moonlight in any way and none of my fellow campers have ever turned into a werewolf, had internal bleeding, died or even been mildly sick from the moonlight. So are we all just immune or what?


You are most likely immune, sadly a very small population is not.
hoppy and I pray for them.

Oh well that's good news! I guess I can put away my moonblock then. ::)

Oddly enough that small population seems to only include FEers.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on August 06, 2013, 05:36:05 PM
Ummmm..... OK I'm pretty sure this is a FE joke but i'm going to post anyway. I go camping all the time and we always stay up really late out by the campfire. I have never been affected by the moonlight in any way and none of my fellow campers have ever turned into a werewolf, had internal bleeding, died or even been mildly sick from the moonlight. So are we all just immune or what?


You are most likely immune, sadly a very small population is not.
hoppy and I pray for them.

Oh well that's good news! I guess I can put away my moonblock then. ::)

Oddly enough that small population seems to only include FEers.

Please do not pay attention to iwtb.  His views are very different from mainstream FE'ers. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on August 06, 2013, 05:59:35 PM
Ummmm..... OK I'm pretty sure this is a FE joke but i'm going to post anyway. I go camping all the time and we always stay up really late out by the campfire. I have never been affected by the moonlight in any way and none of my fellow campers have ever turned into a werewolf, had internal bleeding, died or even been mildly sick from the moonlight. So are we all just immune or what?


You are most likely immune, sadly a very small population is not.
hoppy and I pray for them.

Oh well that's good news! I guess I can put away my moonblock then. ::)

Oddly enough that small population seems to only include FEers.

Please do not pay attention to iwtb.  His views are very different from mainstream FE'ers.

Which he clearly has some trouble accepting.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on August 15, 2013, 04:18:47 PM
if this is truely a Zetetic society, yes, there is no evidence that moonlight is harmful.
if this is a conspiracy theory society, moonlight maybe deadly.

This is why i warn, those that believe in the latter, avoid moonlight, even during the daytime, at all cause,
those that are Zetetics, there is nothing to fear.

Its amazing how Willmore keeps outing himself as a non=Zetetic.

Its time for new leadership
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on August 15, 2013, 04:46:14 PM
if this is truely a Zetetic society, yes, there is no evidence that moonlight is harmful.
if this is a conspiracy theory society, moonlight maybe deadly.

This is why i warn, those that believe in the latter, avoid moonlight, even during the daytime, at all cause,
those that are Zetetics, there is nothing to fear.

Its amazing how Willmore keeps outing himself as a non=Zetetic.

Its time for new leadership

As I recall, both Willmore and John Davis have reported unusual gastric discomfort during full moons.  Therefore, they have both experienced first hand evidence of the harmful effects of moonlight.  Sounds zetetic to me.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on August 15, 2013, 04:56:35 PM
markjo has become a FE'er and iwanttobelieve has become a RE'er.  This should be interesting.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on August 15, 2013, 07:49:05 PM
What a twist! (http://#)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on August 31, 2013, 06:18:54 AM
if this is truely a Zetetic society, yes, there is no evidence that moonlight is harmful.
if this is a conspiracy theory society, moonlight maybe deadly.

This is why i warn, those that believe in the latter, avoid moonlight, even during the daytime, at all cause,
those that are Zetetics, there is nothing to fear.

Its amazing how Willmore keeps outing himself as a non=Zetetic.

Its time for new leadership

As I recall, both Willmore and John Davis have reported unusual gastric discomfort during full moons.  Therefore, they have both experienced first hand evidence of the harmful effects of moonlight.  Sounds zetetic to me.



Maybe they carry the recessive moonlight gene?
Somehow John Davis, through Zetetic experimentation has found a cure.
Willmore still suffers.  :'(
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on August 31, 2013, 06:23:20 AM
You're allowed to disagree with Wilmore and John, iwanttobelieve.  You don't need to keep trying to rationalize it by talking about genes.  Just accept the fact that you hold a different opinion.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on August 31, 2013, 01:43:21 PM
I think its silly to have a stickied thread warning about the dangers of moonlight when only 1 member seems to be severely afflicted. If so few our the worlds population is, it must be a recessive gene. Do you have an alternate explanation?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Thork on August 31, 2013, 02:07:05 PM
I think its silly to have a stickied thread warning about the dangers of moonlight when only 1 member seems to be severely afflicted. If so few our the worlds population is, it must be a recessive gene. Do you have an alternate explanation?
Yes. John Davis is a hermaphrodite and once a month he gets period pains. He has attributed these stomach pains to the cycle of the moon, but it is actually just his womanly cycle.
This also explains why he can be such a miserable bitch.

Anyhow, its a reasonable sticky because its interesting and not something people immediately associate with the society, so I guess interesting for the noobs.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on August 31, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
It is good Davis has found relief, but what about Willmore? Why does the moon cause him severe discomfort?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Thork on August 31, 2013, 03:08:30 PM
It is good Davis has found relief, but what about Willmore? Why does the moon cause him severe discomfort?
He dates Davis.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on October 08, 2013, 06:20:07 PM
but I thought Willmore was Davis? or is he Daniel? This is all so confusing.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on October 08, 2013, 06:36:13 PM
Wilmore is nobody but Wilmore.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Rushy on October 08, 2013, 07:37:02 PM
Stop replying to it, Saddam.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on October 14, 2013, 10:43:34 AM
Is this serious?
Why is this stickied?
I hate you guys.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Thork on October 14, 2013, 10:44:51 AM
Is this serious?
Why is this stickied?
I hate you guys.
Just make sure you heed the precautions. Its easier to hate us when you aren't suffering from moonburn.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on October 14, 2013, 11:58:34 AM
Is this serious?
Why is this stickied?
I hate you guys.
Just make sure you heed the precautions. Its easier to hate us when you aren't suffering from moonburn.
I frequently stare at the moon out of pure wonderment.
I'm neither  blind, nor have I even gotten any type of burn.
Most of the time I spend outside is at night.
I rarely get Sun burn.
I don't think I need to "heed" any "precautions".
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: EarthIsASpaceship on October 14, 2013, 12:04:04 PM
A full moon is closest to the Earth and I personally believe the moon is what creates the light of the sun.  So the electromagnetic energy it creates may be why some people are more sensitive to it and why women's menstrual cycles are affected by it (iron related). 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on October 14, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
A full moon is closest to the Earth and I personally believe the moon is what creates the light of the sun.  So the electromagnetic energy it creates may be why some people are more sensitive to it and why women's menstrual cycles are affected by it (iron related).

That hypothesis is supported by literally nothing.
Not observation, not data, not experimentation.
It is a baseless assumption.
I would like for you to cite at least one observation that led you to believe this.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: 29silhouette on October 14, 2013, 12:24:42 PM
Probably all mental anyway.  They've convinced themselves so thoroughly that it's dangerous, that their brains imagine pain. 

A session or two with a hypnotist should fix them right up.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: EarthIsASpaceship on October 14, 2013, 12:26:24 PM
They both move approx. 15 degrees/hr.
They both appear to be the same size.
They both take 24 hrs. from rise to set.
They both have dark "spots" on them.   :P
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rottingroom on October 14, 2013, 12:29:53 PM
They both move approx. 15 degrees/hr.
They both appear to be the same size.
They both take 24 hrs. from rise to set.
They both have dark "spots" on them.   :P

All these should be telling you that the earth is rotating. And the sun's dark spots are dynamic while the moon always has the same old dark spots.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on October 14, 2013, 12:31:23 PM
They both move approx. 15 degrees/hr.
They both appear to be the same size.
They both take 24 hrs. from rise to set.
They both have dark "spots" on them.   :P

You proved that they look similar to the naked eye.
I see no evidence that the moon creates the Sun's light here.
Frankly, you won't find any, 'cause it's not true.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: EarthIsASpaceship on October 14, 2013, 12:32:35 PM
All these should be telling you that the earth is rotating. And the sun's dark spots are dynamic while the moon always has the same old dark spots.

Well, as long as there is another explanation, I will not just simply go with the one you chose.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rottingroom on October 14, 2013, 12:35:36 PM
If it was the moon lighting up the sun then it would be the sun going through phases instead of the moon. Also, the simple fact that the sun is brighter is an enormously obvious clue.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: EarthIsASpaceship on October 14, 2013, 12:36:21 PM
The sun is just light, reflecting off the glass dome.   So the spots are just cooler spots on the dome.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on October 14, 2013, 12:37:37 PM
All these should be telling you that the earth is rotating. And the sun's dark spots are dynamic while the moon always has the same old dark spots.

Well, as long as there is another explanation, I will not just simply go with the one you chose.

Wait, so, you just reject reality and substitute your own as you please, just because it "goes against the grain" to do so?
You badass.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on October 14, 2013, 12:38:56 PM
The sun is just light, reflecting off the glass dome.   So the spots are just cooler spots on the dome.
Light from where???
You and scepti need to seriously reevaluate this "ice dome" NONSENSE.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rottingroom on October 14, 2013, 12:40:49 PM
The sun is just light, reflecting off the glass dome.   So the spots are just cooler spots on the dome.

This is obviously false because if we were in a dome we'd be be dead.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: th3rm0m3t3r0 on October 14, 2013, 12:54:42 PM
I'm a badass!  You say that like it's a good thing....well, it was in my younger years at least.   ;D
Usually, in science, it's not good to be different just for the sake of being different when you have no evidence.
Usually, it just makes you look really, really, really stupid.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 14, 2013, 03:38:09 PM
Is this serious?
Why is this stickied?
I hate you guys.
Just make sure you heed the precautions. Its easier to hate us when you aren't suffering from moonburn.
I frequently stare at the moon out of pure wonderment.
I'm neither  blind, nor have I even gotten any type of burn.
Most of the time I spend outside is at night.
I rarely get Sun burn.
I don't think I need to "heed" any "precautions".

It is well known that moon light causes mental problems in humans.  The condition is known as lunacy and the people affected are lunatics.  You may or may not be too far along to reverse this condition; however, there is always hope. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 14, 2013, 04:10:58 PM
They both take 24 hrs. from rise to set.
You're kidding, right?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on October 14, 2013, 04:13:24 PM
Why would evolution, or a God make something that shines near 100% of the time deadly? \
Why do the silly faqqers believe humans are so inferior to all other life?
Wait a second, they may be right.  ;)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: EarthIsASpaceship on October 14, 2013, 05:24:17 PM
They both take 24 hrs. from rise to set.
You're kidding, right?
I meant from rise to rise.  Thought that was obvious. ???
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 14, 2013, 06:49:55 PM
They both take 24 hrs. from rise to set.
You're kidding, right?
I meant from rise to rise.  Thought that was obvious. ???
First of all, for most of the earth, sunrise to sunrise are not exactly 24 hours apart.  Have you not noticed the seasonal changes in the length of daylight hours?  Moonrise to moonrise timing undergoes a similar monthly change in its time above the horizon and averages closer to 25 hours from moonrise to moonrise.  The nuances of the sun's and moon's motions are not necessarily as obvious as you might think.
http://star-www.st-and.ac.uk/~fv/sky/moon-general.html (http://star-www.st-and.ac.uk/~fv/sky/moon-general.html)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 14, 2013, 06:58:47 PM
Have you not noticed the seasonal changes in the length of daylight hours?

What does the length of daylight hours have to do with the amount of time between sunrises?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rottingroom on October 14, 2013, 07:04:40 PM
Have you not noticed the seasonal changes in the length of daylight hours?

What does the length of daylight hours have to do with the amount of time between sunrises?

Have you noticed how the sun is responsible for daylight?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: 29silhouette on October 14, 2013, 07:16:52 PM
Have you not noticed the seasonal changes in the length of daylight hours?

What does the length of daylight hours have to do with the amount of time between sunrises?
In spring the sun rises earlier than the day before until the summer solstice, and in fall it rises later than the day before until the winter solstice, therefore it varies a little more or a little less than 24 hours.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 14, 2013, 07:40:21 PM
Have you not noticed the seasonal changes in the length of daylight hours?

What does the length of daylight hours have to do with the amount of time between sunrises?
Seriously?  You never noticed that sunrise and sunset occur a few minutes earlier or later every day depending on the season?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 14, 2013, 07:47:22 PM
When the day gets shorter, the night gets longer, and vice versa.  The length of a day, not daylight, stays pretty much the same through out the year. 

In other words, the amount of daylight and night are roughly inversely proportionate.  So, the amount of time between sunrise and sunrise remains approximately the same through out the year.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: sokarul on October 14, 2013, 08:03:28 PM
When the day gets shorter, the night gets longer, and vice versa. 
Yes
Quote
The length of a day, not daylight, stays pretty much the same through out the year. 
Days are 24 hours throughout the year.

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In other words, the amount of daylight and night are roughly inversely proportionate.
They must equal 24 hours.
 
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So, the amount of time between sunrise and sunrise remains approximately the same through out the year.
Not even close. The sun does not rise at 6:30 AM every day. Try harder.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: EarthIsASpaceship on October 15, 2013, 08:35:05 AM
We all know the sunrise and sunset times change throughout the year...and length of day and night changes throughout the year....SIGH
I don't care if the damn moon and sun are off by MINUTES.  The fact is, from one day to another....on every calendar in the world...on every clock in the world....THERE ARE 24 HOURS in a day.
It amazes me the crap you people debate on here.  ANAL RETENTIVE OR WHAT?!!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 15, 2013, 08:43:06 AM
The length of a day is not defined by sunrise to sunrise or by moonrise to moonrise. 

The point that I was trying to make is that moonrise to moonrise is not 24 hours, as you had claimed.  Moonrise to moonrise is closer to 25 hours, but varies in both monthly and annual cycles.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on January 11, 2014, 12:01:33 AM
The earth is constantly losing angular velocity and rotational energy through a process called tidal acceleration, which leads to a slow lengthening of the day.

A hundred years ago, the average day was about 1.7 milliseconds shorter than today, while in the late Neoproterozoic period about 600 million years ago a day had only about 21.9 hours.

FEs should note the phrase angular velocity, IE the velocity of a spherical object at its surface.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on January 11, 2014, 12:10:32 AM

 I've just read through this entire thread, but I'm not sure whether or not it's a spoof, or a serious consideration for flat earthers?

The crux of the matter is that the moon has no luminescence of its own, and the light we see reflected from its surface is merely sunlight.

Are FEs claiming that somehow, when sunlight is reflected off the moon, there's some sort of transformation at a nuclear level that causes the light to be harmful?  Say, for example, concentrating the UV element of the light?
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on January 20, 2014, 06:20:13 PM

 I've just read through this entire thread, but I'm not sure whether or not it's a spoof, or a serious consideration for flat earthers?

The crux of the matter is that the moon has no luminescence of its own, and the light we see reflected from its surface is merely sunlight.

Are FEs claiming that somehow, when sunlight is reflected off the moon, there's some sort of transformation at a nuclear level that causes the light to be harmful?  Say, for example, concentrating the UV element of the light?

No, we are claiming the moon is self-luminescent.  Possibly due to some kind of bioluminescent creature on its surface.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on January 28, 2014, 07:52:55 PM
Those who carry the recessive moon gene, you should be safe for the next following days, as the moon shrimp are hibernating.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on January 29, 2014, 09:38:22 AM

No, we are claiming the moon is self-luminescent.  Possibly due to some kind of bioluminescent creature on its surface.

What evidence—or hypothesis—do you have to claim that there's bioluminescent creatures living on the surface of the moon?  Surely some form of luminescent mineral—such as strontium, tourmaline, or zircon would be more likely than any life form?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on February 02, 2014, 07:01:09 AM

No, we are claiming the moon is self-luminescent.  Possibly due to some kind of bioluminescent creature on its surface.

What evidence—or hypothesis—do you have to claim that there's bioluminescent creatures living on the surface of the moon?  Surely some form of luminescent mineral—such as strontium, tourmaline, or zircon would be more likely than any life form?


Willmore said so, and now it is truth.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on February 02, 2014, 07:28:45 AM
Wilmore said so, and now it is truth.


In that case, Lord Wilmore is horribly misinformed.   :P

Ask any professional astro-photographer at what colour temperature he sets his camera when photographing the moon at night.

He'll tell you "daylight 5600K" which is the temperature of noonday sunlight.  And because "moonlight" is simply reflected sunlight.
 
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on February 02, 2014, 11:56:21 AM

No, we are claiming the moon is self-luminescent.  Possibly due to some kind of bioluminescent creature on its surface.

What evidence—or hypothesis—do you have to claim that there's bioluminescent creatures living on the surface of the moon?  Surely some form of luminescent mineral—such as strontium, tourmaline, or zircon would be more likely than any life form?

It really is little more than a hypothesis.  I don't think the evidence is strong enough that this is the case and that the moon isn't luminescent independent of the sun for other reasons (perhaps internal).  I believe Brother John has discussed biological material falling from the heavens as evidence in support of the hypothesis (and again, I make no claim personally about the strength of this argument).
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Towndown on February 05, 2014, 07:05:58 AM
Since the dawn of history, the Moon has possessed an almost unequalled hold over the imagination of man, provoking by turns fascination.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Ski on February 05, 2014, 07:34:43 AM

No, we are claiming the moon is self-luminescent.  Possibly due to some kind of bioluminescent creature on its surface.

What evidence—or hypothesis—do you have to claim that there's bioluminescent creatures living on the surface of the moon?  Surely some form of luminescent mineral—such as strontium, tourmaline, or zircon would be more likely than any life form?
I'd imagine radioluminescence is far more likely than bioluminescent creatures. I don't think any harm is likely to come to anyone being exposed to moonlight. Cases of "luna"cy and distemper are well-documented through history, however. A little precaution never hurt anyone.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on February 07, 2014, 09:43:39 AM
should we also fear fireflies?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on February 07, 2014, 03:41:28 PM

Cases of lunacy and distemper are well-documented through history, however. A little precaution never hurt anyone.

In 1996, professors Ivan Kelly, James Rotton and Roger Culver examined over 100 studies on lunar effects and concluded that the studies have failed to show a reliable and significant correlation (IE: one not likely due to chance) between the full moon, or any other phase of the moon, and each of the following:

    - homicide rate
    - traffic accidents
    - crisis calls to police or fire stations
    - domestic violence
    - suicide
    - major disasters
    - kidnappings   
    - violence in prisons
    - psychiatric admissions (one study found admissions were lowest during a full moon)
    - agitated behavior by nursing home residents
    - assaults
    - gunshot wounds   
    - emergency room admissions 
    - alcoholism
    - sleep walking
    - epilepsy

If so many studies have failed to prove a significant correlation between the full moon and anything, why do so many people believe in these lunar myths? Kelly, Rotton, and Culver suspect five factors: media effects, folklore and tradition, misconceptions, cognitive biases, and communal reinforcement.
 

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 07, 2014, 03:55:43 PM
Throughout history, there have been documented cases of mental and physical diseases that have been linked to lunar exposure.  One little case study conducted by a couple of grad students does not impress me. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on February 07, 2014, 05:02:13 PM
Throughout history, there have been documented cases of mental and physical diseases that have been linked to lunar exposure.  One little case study conducted by a couple of grad students does not impress me.

Can you please post references to these documented cases of lunar exposure-caused illnesses?

And if you were referring to Kelly, Rotton and Culver as "grad students" then you should know all have PhDs and decades of experience as researchers.  And it wasn't "one little case study"; it was a mega-analysis.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on February 08, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
crime also goes way up (in the North) during summer.
maybe all light is dangerous.
please set your monitor to its lowest illumination and turn off your lights.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 08, 2014, 01:24:33 PM
Are you trying to claim that there are no documented cases of lunacy?   ???
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on February 08, 2014, 02:37:33 PM
Are you trying to claim that there are no documented cases of lunacy?   ???


are you trying to say that all light is not harmful?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: hoppy on February 08, 2014, 04:50:27 PM
Throughout history, there have been documented cases of mental and physical diseases that have been linked to lunar exposure.  One little case study conducted by a couple of grad students does not impress me.
In all these historical cases it was shown that none of the affected were wearing their jockstrap at the time. Onset of lunacy occurs only when this precaution is neglected.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: dephelis on February 08, 2014, 05:23:09 PM
Are you trying to claim that there are no documented cases of lunacy?   ???

There are no documented cases of lunacy that would now still be classed as a condition caused by the moon, on the basis that:

1. Dozens of studies since the 80's have shown no correlation between the moon and, amongst many other things,  birth rates, murder rates & mental health.

2. The very few studies where correlation has been suggested have either been statistically flawed, misinterpreted or do not correlate with each other.

3. The actual causes of mental health issues are much better understood than back at the dawn of history, when the term was invented or in the 20s when it was last used.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on February 11, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
the evidence is overwhelming, Willmore can not even venture outside if their is even a sliver of moonlight.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: dephelis on February 11, 2014, 02:25:00 PM
the evidence is overwhelming, Willmore can not even venture outside if their is even a sliver of moonlight.
Evidence please. Willmore is anecdotal.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on February 11, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
Wilmore wears his sunglasses at night.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on February 11, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Wilmore wears his sunglasses at night.


That is a million dollar idea Space Cowgirl, make a pair of optical lenses that renders those who carry the recessive move gene immune.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on February 11, 2014, 08:20:33 PM
Wilmore wears his sunmoonglasses at night.
Fixed.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: dephelis on February 13, 2014, 07:59:03 AM
Wilmore wears his sunmoonglasses at nightwhen the moon is up.
Fixed.
More fixed.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on February 13, 2014, 11:24:55 AM

More fixed.

I'm surprised that most flat earthers don't seem to understand that you can see the moon in broad daylight.  Why is this?
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 13, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
I'm surprised that most flat earthers don't seem to understand that you can see the moon in broad daylight.  Why is this?

I think the light could be less potent when the moon is out during the day.  Perhaps the sun light somehow cancels or drowns out some of these negative effects?  At this point, I would not take any chances until these negative and positive energies are better understood.   
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on February 14, 2014, 10:49:42 AM
I agree with JROA. Those that suffer from moon sickness should stay indoors whenever possible.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RandomREalist on April 03, 2014, 01:37:50 PM
I agree with JROA. Those that suffer from moon sickness should stay indoors whenever possible.

Should stay away from the internet too, i hear it amplifies the moon's effects exponentially
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 04, 2014, 06:01:01 AM
I note too that jroa never bothered to address my earlier question directed at him after he claimed that:

Quote
Throughout history, there have been documented cases of mental and physical diseases that have been linked to lunar exposure.  One little case study conducted by a couple of grad students does not impress me.


Can you please post references to these documented cases of lunar exposure-caused illnesses?

And if you were referring to Kelly, Rotton and Culver as "grad students" then you should know all have PhDs and decades of experience as researchers.  And it wasn't "one little case study"; it was a mega-analysis.

I'm still waiting for your response jroa.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 04, 2014, 06:03:36 AM
Are you claiming that there are no documented cases of lunar light causing lunacy? 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 04, 2014, 06:15:09 AM
Are you claiming that there are no documented cases of lunar light causing lunacy?

In a word?  Yes.  I'm asking you to provide some citations to support your contradictory claim.  Where are they?
 
The burden of proof is on you jroa—as the proponent of the claim—that mental illnesses can be caused by exposure to moonlight, or reflected sunlight.
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 04, 2014, 06:19:11 AM
I am going to bed soon, so I don't have time right now.  I will be at work later, and I will have time to pull up some evidence for you.  In the mean time, why do you think they call it lunacy?  Could it be because of the luna causing the illness?  Do you think that if this is the case, there might be some documentation?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RandomREalist on April 04, 2014, 10:43:14 AM
I am going to bed soon, so I don't have time right now.  I will be at work later, and I will have time to pull up some evidence for you.  In the mean time, why do you think they call it lunacy?  Could it be because of the luna causing the illness?  Do you think that if this is the case, there might be some documentation?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Luna (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Luna) I think they've consumed too much silver!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on April 05, 2014, 11:28:43 AM
it is quite obvious that less evolved lifeforms are sensitive to moonlight, eg. Willmore.
We should work together to find a solution.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Ichimaru Gin :] on April 05, 2014, 12:52:01 PM

More fixed.

I'm surprised that most flat earthers don't seem to understand that you can see the moon in broad daylight.  Why is this?
Great question Aus, since I have shown that moonlight and sunlight are two distinct phenomena, it only makes sense that we have distinct bipolar sensory pathways to the dorsal horn of the spinal cord. As the neural pathway progresses, sunlight tract activation minimizes the amount of response the body will exhibit towards moonlight. This is in align with what many leading neurologists refer to as a gatekeeper theory. Look up synaptic gating.

I will give a comparable scenario. Ever wonder why a physician shakes the cheek of someone about to get a needle in their face? There are two reasons. The first is because it provides a distraction. Secondly, it is because the amount of proprioception actually decreases!!! That is because simple touch neurons are faster in sending electrical signals. It therefore reaches the localization of where synaptic gating occurs before pain stimuli reaches the same progress. Synaptic gating occurs and the proprioception is actually dulled!!!

It is the same with sunlight and moonlight. The neural tract for sunlight carries electrical impulses faster than moonlight. Therefore SUNLIGHT is the synaptic gatekeeper and moonlight stimuli is reduced. The Lord Sun is truly magnificent. A great adaptation of evolution in its finest form.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 05, 2014, 01:13:15 PM
In the mean time, why do you think they call it lunacy?  Could it be because of the luna causing the illness? 


"They" don't call any mental illness "lunacy" in the 21st century.  Why is it that you persist in using such outdated  terminology to propound so many of your arguments jroa?  You really need to move on from the days of Samuel Rowbotham and all the other seriously outdated flat earth pseudo-sciences you rely on.

Incidentally, the term "lunacy" was first coined by astrologers who erroneously thought that sunlight reflected from the moon's surface had some peculiar effects on certain individuals.  Which of course, like the rest of astrology, is total rubbish.
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 05, 2014, 01:58:44 PM
You can plug your ears and dismiss lunacy all you want.  That does not mean that it is not real.  In fact, I am starting to wonder if you may have been exposed to too much moonlight lately.  Perhaps you should stay indoors at night for a little while and see if the symptoms are reduced? 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 05, 2014, 02:37:25 PM
You can plug your ears and dismiss lunacy all you want.  That does not mean that it is not real.  In fact, I am starting to wonder if you may have been exposed to too much moonlight lately.  Perhaps you should stay indoors at night for a little while and see if the symptoms are reduced?

Ahhh... I knew it couldn't last LOL.

Backed into a corner yet again, the intellectually bankrupt jroa has to resort to the tried and trusted ad hominem.

Well done mate.   ;D


 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 05, 2014, 02:44:31 PM
I am not sure about this, but I have heard that a good SPF can reduce the effects of lunar exposure.  Give it a try and let us know how well it works for you. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 05, 2014, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: jroa link=topi54468.msg1599215#msg1599215 date=1396734271
I am not sure about this, but I have heard that a good SPF can reduce the effects of lunar exposure.  Give it a try and let us know how well it works for you.

Underneath all your hollow, on-line bravado—and behind your big man's moderator uniform—you really are a pretty dense sort of guy aren't you jroa?

Whenever you're lost for some sort of reasoned response to a round earther's comments, you invariably resort to personal attacks, or feeble-minded schoolkids' jokes.  Anything to divert peoples' attention from your lack of any real scientific knowledge.

With your simplistic mindset, if you can't answer a question, you simply insult the person asking it don't you?  All a bit obvious now mate, and also fast becoming ultra-boring.  Sorry.
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 05, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
SPF 30 or better is ideal, though I don't suppose you can ever have too much.  When I go out in the moonlight I also make sure my arms and legs are well-covered, and that my hands are gloved and my feet are shod, and that I am wearing a hat with maximum coverage (mine is straw) to shield me from the moon's rays.  In a full moon I wear a trenchcoat as well.  In my experience you can never be too careful; I've lost too many loved ones.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 05, 2014, 03:05:47 PM
I don't know what ausGeoff is getting his panties in a bundle about.  These are simply precautions.  We are only concerned with you health. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 05, 2014, 04:00:14 PM

Oh dear... tinfoil hat time again.   ;D
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 05, 2014, 04:06:29 PM

Oh dear... tinfoil hat time again.   ;D

No, it's a straw hat.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 05, 2014, 04:07:07 PM
If you want to expose yourself to potentially harmful radiation, then be my guest.  We are simply warning you. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 05, 2014, 04:13:42 PM
If you want to expose yourself to potentially harmful radiation, then be my guest.  We are simply warning you.

You do—I hope—understand that so-called moonlight is simply sunlight reflected off the moon's surface.  If one were to be affected negatively by exposure to moonlight, then one would probably find being exposed to direct sunlight fatal.
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 05, 2014, 04:15:16 PM
If you want to expose yourself to potentially harmful radiation, then be my guest.  We are simply warning you.

You do—I hope—understand that so-called moonlight is simply sunlight reflected off the moon's surface.  If one were to be affected negatively by exposure to moonlight, then one would probably find being exposed to direct sunlight fatal.

This isn't a debate thread.  Please take it to the appropriate subforum.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 05, 2014, 04:16:47 PM
We don't understand the mechanics of it completely.  However, we can see the effects of it.  We are only concerned for you health and well being. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on April 06, 2014, 01:28:34 PM
Is your big man's moderator uniform new? I bet it looks great in the moonlight.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 06, 2014, 04:13:21 PM
Yes, it is.  Thank you for asking. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Saddam Hussein on April 07, 2014, 07:13:07 PM
SPF 30 or better is ideal, though I don't suppose you can ever have too much.  When I go out in the moonlight I also make sure my arms and legs are well-covered, and that my hands are gloved and my feet are shod, and that I am wearing a hat with maximum coverage (mine is straw) to shield me from the moon's rays.  In a full moon I wear a trenchcoat as well.  In my experience you can never be too careful; I've lost too many loved ones.

Your loins are protected, then?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 07, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
SPF 30 or better is ideal, though I don't suppose you can ever have too much.  When I go out in the moonlight I also make sure my arms and legs are well-covered, and that my hands are gloved and my feet are shod, and that I am wearing a hat with maximum coverage (mine is straw) to shield me from the moon's rays.  In a full moon I wear a trenchcoat as well.  In my experience you can never be too careful; I've lost too many loved ones.

Your loins are protected, then?

Well, of course.  You don't think I'd dare go outside at night naked, do you?  Of course I only bother with a cup on a full moon.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on May 26, 2014, 07:38:19 AM
Roundy gives us a full moon?  ???
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 13, 2014, 01:26:38 PM
Just a word of warning.  Not only is there a full moon tonight, but it is also Friday the 13th.  Be especially wary tonight, all.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 13, 2014, 01:31:20 PM
to those afflicted better start the double baking soda regiments at once.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 13, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
Silly markjo, the moonlight does not care what day it is.  ::)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 13, 2014, 04:07:11 PM
Silly markjo, the moonlight does not care what day it is.  ::)
Be careful jroa, lest your flippancy cost you dearly.  The full moon is not to be trifled with and neither is Friday the 13th.  When they occur together, disaster is surely just around the corner.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: iwanttobelieve on June 13, 2014, 07:03:40 PM
Silly markjo, the moonlight does not care what day it is.  ::)
 

Tell that to Jason
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on July 08, 2014, 01:26:50 PM
Moon sensitives beware; July 12 is the first of 3 consecutive supermoons.  :o
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on July 08, 2014, 11:53:59 PM
Moon sensitives beware; July 12 is the first of 3 consecutive supermoons.

Considering that "moonlight" is nothing more than reflected sunlight, those folks had better spend the entire 72 hours indoors.

Moonlight is about 400,000 times fainter than direct sunlight.

So... slop on the SPF 50+ guys.   ;D
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on July 09, 2014, 12:13:14 AM
I fear that someone has not been properly applying their moonscreen lotion.  :(
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Pongo on July 13, 2014, 08:42:37 AM
Super Moon this week.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on July 13, 2014, 10:09:31 AM
Supermoons in August and September as well.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on August 07, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
Correct. Supermoon on Sunday evening this weekend.  That gives time for those who must take extra care to supply-up before it arrives.   
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on August 08, 2014, 01:15:03 AM
Thank you for the heads up, gotham.  I will plan for the worst and I will make sure I wear my moon screen lotion. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 08, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
Supermoon tonight. WEAR YOUR MOONSCREEN!

Also, this is the Harvest moon, and the last supermoon of the summer.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on September 08, 2014, 03:32:29 PM
Supermoon tonight. WEAR YOUR MOONSCREEN!

Also, this is the Harvest moon, and the last supermoon of the summer.

Thank you for the notice Space Cowgirl. Many do appreciate the warning.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: bullhorn on September 08, 2014, 05:34:46 PM
I will be examining the moon thoroughly tonight.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 09, 2014, 11:02:05 AM
It was overcast last night, so I only saw the moon peeping through the clouds a couple times.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Pongo on September 09, 2014, 11:59:19 AM
It was overcast last night, so I only saw the moon peeping through the clouds a couple times.

Can clouds stop the harmful effects of moonrays?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 09, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
Probably not, I should take a nap!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on September 10, 2014, 03:35:22 AM
I just want to interject and mention...

I've been sleeping in full view of the moon for like 2 weeks now. Still not burnt, no werewolfism. No ill effects at all.
Since nobody wants to answer me in the other thread..

When can I expect to be affected by the moon? I mean, I've got this geeky pearl-white skin just ripe for burns. I go to the beach and I'm toasted. Under the moon.. nothing.

jroa? Ichi? You did these experiments apparently, you should be able to tell me the mechanism by which I can experience these so called negative effects. ... Right?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: guv on September 10, 2014, 03:51:40 AM
The full moon has been accused of causing lunacy. After a few months observing this lot I don't think the moon is to blame. It must be the flat cookies. I be just a tiny bit jealous.   
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Pongo on September 10, 2014, 07:23:10 AM
I just want to interject and mention...

I've been sleeping in full view of the moon for like 2 weeks now. Still not burnt, no werewolfism. No ill effects at all.
Since nobody wants to answer me in the other thread..

When can I expect to be affected by the moon? I mean, I've got this geeky pearl-white skin just ripe for burns. I go to the beach and I'm toasted. Under the moon.. nothing.

jroa? Ichi? You did these experiments apparently, you should be able to tell me the mechanism by which I can experience these so called negative effects. ... Right?

If I told you that I've smoked cigarettes for two weeks now and I'm fine, would you think that I can smoke cigarettes for the rest of my life with no harmful side effects?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on September 10, 2014, 09:34:59 AM
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If I told you that I've smoked cigarettes for two weeks now and I'm fine, would you think that I can smoke cigarettes for the rest of my life with no harmful side effects?
Well, using the logic I've seen countless times on these boards, that would count as irrefutable evidence.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on September 10, 2014, 10:34:14 AM
This thread is indeed one of the more thought provoking threads on the fora.*

But....Which is the more dangerous.:
1. The moon appears larger when it first rises on the horizon. Is this some form of reverse perspective in the flat earth theory of perspective ? Is the moon more or less dangerous depending on size ?
2.The moon often appears an orange-ish color when it first rises or sets on the horizon.
Which is the most dangerous ?: The orange colored moon at moonrise, the white colored moon when it is directly overhead or the "once in a blue moon" colored moon ?

I await the answers and explanation of the above, being admittedly ignorant of flat earth theories on these and other flat earth theories.

* From viewers like us. Thank you .
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on September 10, 2014, 07:22:02 PM
If I told you that I've smoked cigarettes for two weeks now and I'm fine, would you think that I can smoke cigarettes for the rest of my life with no harmful side effects?


Your assumption that you're "fine" (health-wise) is demonstrably incorrect—apart from being a fallacious analogy.

Even two weeks of smoking cigarettes has some negative effect on thousands of alveoli that line your lungs, and also your respiratory cilia.

Can you please cite some references to research that shows "moonlight" is a health hazard?  Or, can you explain exactly why photons reflected to earth from the moon's surface are potentially dangerous—considering that these are identical (obviously) to the photons released by the sun.  What changes their nature to cause them to be hazardous?
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Pongo on September 11, 2014, 08:47:13 AM
If I told you that I've smoked cigarettes for two weeks now and I'm fine, would you think that I can smoke cigarettes for the rest of my life with no harmful side effects?


Your assumption that you're "fine" (health-wise) is demonstrably incorrect—apart from being a fallacious analogy.

Even two weeks of smoking cigarettes has some negative effect on thousands of alveoli that line your lungs, and also your respiratory cilia.

Can you please cite some references to research that shows "moonlight" is a health hazard?  Or, can you explain exactly why photons reflected to earth from the moon's surface are potentially dangerous—considering that these are identical (obviously) to the photons released by the sun.  What changes their nature to cause them to be hazardous?

Gladly:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42960.msg1064383#msg1064383 (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42960.msg1064383#msg1064383)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on September 11, 2014, 09:39:46 AM
Citation please. I tried to search for this study. I figured "341 day study institute of neurology UCL moonlight seizure" was a good term to search with. Got some narrow results, most of the pages containing nothing. The top result? THAT LINK.

Proof please.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Pongo on September 11, 2014, 11:58:48 AM
Citation please. I tried to search for this study. I figured "341 day study institute of neurology UCL moonlight seizure" was a good term to search with. Got some narrow results, most of the pages containing nothing. The top result? THAT LINK.

Proof please.

Seriously?  The citations are in the link.  Use your eyeballs and a world of knowledge will flatten before you.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: abaaaabbbb63 on September 11, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
Um... does this mean that sunlight reflected off Venus is dangerous too?

OHOH, or sunlight reflected off the surface of the Earth! It must be dangerous too!

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on September 11, 2014, 01:24:06 PM
Quote
Seriously?  The citations are in the link.  Use your eyeballs and a world of knowledge will flatten before you.
What, that paywalled article whose abstract is dealing with epilepsy and light reflected by the moon?
You're right, and for 39.99 I can find out how you're right!

By the way, the abstract goes against your flat earth sensibilities:
Quote
We found a significant negative correlation between the mean number of seizures and the fraction of the moon illuminated by the sun
So, the moon DOES reflect sunlight? What about those moon shrimp and moon fungus I keep hearing about?  I thought the sun and moon acted more like heat lamps, warming a nice pie. Custard pie.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: sokarul on September 11, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
The article is saying that the light from the moon lighting up the night sky can possibly cause seizures in epilepsy sufferers. It does not say that the light is dangerous. Pongo is taking it out of context which is usual for fe'ers.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on September 12, 2014, 09:24:23 AM

Gladly:

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42960.msg1064383#msg1064383 (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42960.msg1064383#msg1064383)

Your link proves nothing whatsoever.  It's like saying that steam from a kettle can scald you.  Things injurious to human health only apply under a narrow band of possibility.

At the very least, I'm pleased to see that you're now accepting that "moonlight" is nothing other than reflected sunlight.  Some of your peers claim that the moon possesses its own luminance LOL.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on September 12, 2014, 11:48:07 AM
Rowbotham had some curious ideas about moonlight and sunlight. (You could hardly call them them theories or maybe even hypotheses !)

According to him sunlight would put out a fire while moonlight would support it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 07, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/515abeff750f6491efff56d3c41e66a8/tumblr_nd1pznLeyF1t5fphqo1_500.gif)

Lunar eclipse early Oct 8th. Also this one is called a "selenelion".

http://www.space.com/27338-total-lunar-eclipse-rare-sunrise-selenelion.html (http://www.space.com/27338-total-lunar-eclipse-rare-sunrise-selenelion.html)

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On Oct. 8, Interested skywatchers should attempt to see the total eclipse of the moon and the rising sun simultaneously. The little-used name for this effect is called a "selenelion," a phenomenon that celestial geometry says cannot happen.

And indeed, during a lunar eclipse, the sun and moon are exactly 180 degrees apart in the sky. In a perfect alignment like this (called a "syzygy"), such an observation would seem impossible. But thanks to Earth's atmosphere, the images of both the sun and moon are apparently lifted above the horizon by atmospheric refraction. This allows people on Earth to see the sun for several extra minutes before it actually has risen and the moon for several extra minutes after it has actually set.

Sounds like something the CONSPIRACY would say  >:(
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on October 07, 2014, 04:27:08 PM
Sounds like something the CONSPIRACY would say  >:(

Why would "the CONSPIRACY" say this? What's in it for them?

What is you think "they" are saying, anyway? Do you think this eclipse isn't going to happen as predicted? It's easy enough to check if you live in North America. Even if you can't see it (unfavorable location, clouds) or won't see it (<see thread title>, just too much bother), plenty of others will. Is it possible to fake an eclipse that hundreds of millions of people can see for themselves, using nothing other than their own eyes?

If it's the "selenelion" thing you're fussing about, that's overblown anyway.  All lunar eclipses occur when the Moon is (almost) exactly 180 degrees from the Sun. That's why it's an eclipse. No news there. And it happens somewhere during every eclipse - wherever the Eclipsed Moon is setting right at sunrise.  It's widely visible in the good ol' USA this time, though, and interesting sciencesy news tidbits are always in demand here, kind of  like the "Supermoon!", so maybe that's it? I'm sure it will happen, just as described, but so what?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 08, 2014, 06:48:53 AM
The conspiracy made me sleep through the eclipse!  >:(
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 08, 2014, 06:50:34 AM
Those bastards.  >o<
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 08, 2014, 07:29:24 AM
The conspiracy made it rain during the eclipse.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 08, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
I live in southern Australia, and managed to get a few glimpses of the eclipse.  I tried to snap a few photos with my very ordinary Sony 16MP digital camera (I'm a 35mm and medium-format film person) but a light cloud cover prevented me capturing anything meaningful—other than showing that the lunar eclipse actually occurred at the time the round earthers predicted.....


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This much more professional shot was taken in Brisbane (around 1,800km N/E of me).....


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/08/1412728729128_wps_18_The_moon_moves_out_of_a_l.jpg)


I'd be interested to see how (or if) the flat earthers can explain how their "shadow object" caused this lunar eclipse.  I'd also like them to predict the exact date of the next lunar eclipse using flat earth astrophysics.  (Round earth science says it'll next occur on 27 July 2018.)  Can any flat earthers confirm this date, or suggest a different date—and explain their calculations in detail?





Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 08, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
Please learn how to resize pictures.  It is the decent thing to do.   :P
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 08, 2014, 02:11:04 PM
Please learn how to resize pictures.  It is the decent thing to do.

Seriously jroa..... is that the only comment you can mnake about the photos I've taken a bit of trouble to capture and post here?

How about a bit of a critique from a flat earther's position?  Do you think the pics are representative of a lunar eclipse as posited by your "shadow object" hypothesis?  Can you explain why the earth's shadow on the moon appears circular if the earth is allegedly flat?  Why does your "shadow object" not completely block out the reflected sunlight at any time during the eclipse?  And why does the colour of the moon appear to be a rusty red?

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on October 08, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
Are you crazy Geoff?
Posting large pics of the moon during an ECLIPSE?? you want to be responsible for infecting everyone over the internet with evil moon fungus rays?

Playing with dynamite here.. you want to post a picture of Mohammed while you're at it man?!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 08, 2014, 02:26:29 PM
Are you crazy Geoff?
Posting large pics of the moon during an ECLIPSE?? you want to be responsible for infecting everyone over the internet with evil moon fungus rays?


Well..... I was standing out in the moonlight for 30 minutes trying to get some decent shots, and you know what the flat earthers say about the dangers of too much moonlight on the human body.  So..... just maybe?  Naaah..... couldn't be.  Could it?

    ;D
Title: MOON BURN WARNING
Post by: piewalker442 on October 09, 2014, 08:41:19 AM
UPCOMING ECLIPSE: The government uses the moon during an eclipse to send infared waves which are not visible to the eye that AFFECT OUR BRAIN TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY. AVOID MOOOON BUUURN BY WEARING PROTECTIVE FOIL HATS AND 3D GLASSES
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: aaronsomthing on October 09, 2014, 08:56:54 AM
This phenomenon has been noted by the ancient people and these techniques are highly advanced and fairly simple ways of protecting ourselves.
Title: Re: MOON BURN WARNING
Post by: Googleotomy on October 09, 2014, 09:31:23 AM
UPCOMING ECLIPSE: The government uses the moon during an eclipse to send infared waves which are not visible to the eye that AFFECT OUR BRAIN TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY. AVOID MOOOON BUUURN BY WEARING PROTECTIVE FOIL HATS AND 3D GLASSES

Actually those supposed so-called"laser measurements of the distance from the earth to the moon" by astronomical observatories are really government rays reflected off the moon to send those rays back to the earth to affect our brains to believe what they say. The ham radio operators are also in on this in their so-called "moon bounce" operations. "Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of man ?"

It would really be best to wear a welding helment and a tinfoil raincoat whilst outside on a bright moonlight night or an eclipse....especially one of a "blood red" eclipse.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 09, 2014, 09:36:08 AM
Being outdoors during an eclipse is something I would highly recommend against doing.  Better to be safe than sorry. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 09, 2014, 10:55:56 AM
Please learn how to resize pictures.  It is the decent thing to do.

Seriously jroa..... is that the only comment you can mnake about the photos I've taken a bit of trouble to capture and post here?

How about a bit of a critique from a flat earther's position?  Do you think the pics are representative of a lunar eclipse as posited by your "shadow object" hypothesis?  Can you explain why the earth's shadow on the moon appears circular if the earth is allegedly flat?  Why does your "shadow object" not completely block out the reflected sunlight at any time during the eclipse?  And why does the colour of the moon appear to be a rusty red?

Well, this isn't really the proper thread to start a debate in. This is a thread to warn you of your impending MOON DOOM. Your photos are nice, tho.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 09, 2014, 11:51:37 AM
Better to be safe than sorry.
I've always thought that was a piss poor way to live life.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 10, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
Well, this isn't really the proper thread to start a debate in. This is a thread to warn you of your impending MOON DOOM. Your photos are nice, tho.

Thanks Cowgirl.  They're actually pretty crappy quality, but I tried to capture them myself in order to offset the expected claims from certain flat earthers that this lunar eclipse was bogus—and if I simply posted other people's photos, they'd claim I hadn't personally taken any pics.

I was actually hoping for some intelligent comments about this lunar phenomenon.  The best jroa could come up with was a complaint about the image sizing, and recommending being indoors during an eclipse LOL.

So I asked specifically...

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How about a bit of a critique from a flat earther's position?  Do you think the pics are representative of a lunar eclipse as posited by your "shadow object" hypothesis?  Can you explain why the earth's shadow on the moon appears circular if the earth is allegedly flat?  Why does your "shadow object" not completely block out the reflected sunlight at any time during the eclipse?  And why does the colour of the moon appear to be a rusty red?

And as I was expecting, absolutely no meaningful response was forthcoming from jroa (or any other genuine flat earther).

This, not unexpectedly, is par for the course whenever a round earther posts any sort of evidence supporting the round earth model.  There's a deathly silence amongst the ranks of flat earthers.

PS:  I didn't start a new topic, because the flat earthers would've totally ignored it with a title along the lines of "Lunar Eclipse Proves Spherical Earth".    ::)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 10, 2014, 07:01:39 AM
I think you have been spending too much time exposed to lunar light.  You should get yourself check out for lunacy.  You are starting to act autistic, ausGeoff. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 10, 2014, 07:39:08 AM
I think you have been spending too much time exposed to lunar light.  You should get yourself check out for lunacy.  You are starting to act autistic, ausGeoff.

So can I take it from this silly, off-topic comment that you're in fact unable—or unwilling—to address my questions jroa?  Why is that?

(And I'd also appreciate you not making a joke out of the very debilitating affliction of autism.  You might not think it's so funny if ever you contract some sort of life-changing disorder.  Thanks.)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 10, 2014, 07:44:23 AM
I am sorry for offending you about your autism.  I will drop the subject.  However, have you ever thought that maybe lunar light could be the cause? 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 10, 2014, 08:13:29 AM
I am sorry for offending you about your autism. 
No you aren't.

I will drop the subject. 
That would be nice.

However, have you ever thought that maybe lunar light could be the cause?
So much for dropping the subject. ::)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on October 10, 2014, 09:21:41 AM
Hey, moderator. Can we get some moderation here?
I'm guessing you've never dealt with those with (actual) autism huh.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: octojay on October 10, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
I don't think he was trying to be a dick just saying (and rightfully so) that the cause of autism is the moon it used to be called lunicy but we've learned a lot sence then
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on October 10, 2014, 06:53:29 PM
I don't think he was trying to be a dick...
You're new here, aren't you?

... just saying (and rightfully so) that the cause of autism is the moon...
Citation please.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: octojay on October 10, 2014, 07:24:19 PM
So you can say "no cuz science booklearned me so im right"?

lunar eclipes cause autism so do vaccenes its pretty obvious for those of us that actually look around us instead of just saying what They have teached you
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lord Wilmore on October 10, 2014, 07:33:31 PM
I personally support vaccination. The Moon is very different.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: sokarul on October 10, 2014, 08:42:31 PM
So you can say "no cuz science booklearned me so im right"?

lunar eclipes cause autism so do vaccenes its pretty obvious for those of us that actually look around us instead of just saying what They have teached you
Without evidence it's just your opinion.  You must have seen something that made you believe the moon causes autism, what was it?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 11, 2014, 03:52:55 AM
Cases of lunacy have been documented for centurys.  Look it up. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Rama Set on October 11, 2014, 07:16:49 AM
Cases of lunacy have been documented for centurys.  Look it up.

You mean like some diseases are attributed to an imbalance in the humors? Or an evil spirits curse?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 11, 2014, 09:17:32 AM
Cases of lunacy have been documented for centurys.  Look it up.

No they haven't.  And I did look it up...

"There is a more serious problem for fervent believers in the lunar lunacy effect: no evidence that it exists. Florida International University psychologist James Rotton, Colorado State University astronomer Roger Culver, and University of Saskatchewan psychologist Ivan W. Kelly have searched far and wide for any consistent behavioral effects of the full moon.

In all cases, they have come up empty-handed. By combining the results of multiple studies and treating them as though they were one huge study—a statistical procedure called  meta-analysis—they have found that full moons are entirely unrelated to a host of events, including crimes, suicides, psychiatric problems and crisis center calls.

In their 1985 review of 37 studies entitled "Much Ado about the Full Moon" which appeared in one of psychology’s premier journals, Psychological Bulletin, Rotton and Kelly humorously bid adieu to the full-moon effect and concluded that further research on it was unnecessary."

—And again, my apologies for posting actual scientific evidence.  I know it's frowned upon in these forums, but I just can't resist LOL.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: sokarul on October 12, 2014, 12:40:20 AM
Cases of lunacy have been documented for centurys.  Look it up.
Sickness from the moon has been debunked. Had you actually read the thread you would have seen that octojay made the claim that autism is caused by the moon. This is what we want evidence for. Currently it seems that octojay ran away from the thread.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: octojay on October 12, 2014, 07:51:36 AM
Autism is worst when the moon is full FACT

Proof to me that it isnt.  JUST LOOK AROUND YOURSELVE
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: sokarul on October 12, 2014, 10:03:07 AM
Autism is worst when the moon is full FACT

Proof to me that it isnt.  JUST LOOK AROUND YOURSELVE
Cute opinion.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: octojay on October 12, 2014, 11:16:26 AM
that you're theory is that we all live on a magic ball that everything sticks to?  that is pretty cute
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: sokarul on October 12, 2014, 11:22:46 AM
that you're theory is that we all live on a magic ball that everything sticks to?  that is pretty cute
Feel free to back up anything you say. Or is it too hard?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 12, 2014, 01:08:37 PM
Autism is worst when the moon is full FACT

Proof to me that it isn't.
 


Autism is caused by what's known as brain "overgrowth" during the embryonic stage of human gestation, as per the following:

•  An excess of neurons that causes local overconnectivity in key brain regions;
•  Disturbed neuronal migration;
•  Unbalanced excitatory/inhibitory networks;
•  Abnormal formation of synapses and dendritic spines;
•  Modulation of the neurexin–neuroligin cell-adhesion system;
•  Poorly regulated synthesis of synaptic proteins.

Can you now provide us evidence supporting your hypothesis that autism is aggravated by sunlight reflected off the moon.  Can you also explain why—despite everybody being exposed to "moonlight"—only people with autism are negatively affected.  Additionally, what specific symptoms do people with autism display during full moon periods, and are blind (totally sightless) sufferers affected in the same way?


Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on October 13, 2014, 06:03:18 AM
Florida International University psychologist James Rotton, Colorado State University astronomer Roger Culver, and University of Saskatchewan psychologist Ivan W. Kelly have searched far and wide for any consistent behavioral effects of the full moon.

I wonder how much they were paid to say that?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: sokarul on October 13, 2014, 02:14:46 PM
Florida International University psychologist James Rotton, Colorado State University astronomer Roger Culver, and University of Saskatchewan psychologist Ivan W. Kelly have searched far and wide for any consistent behavioral effects of the full moon.

I wonder how much they were paid to say that?
Feel free to peer review their work.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on October 14, 2014, 09:41:58 AM
Florida International University psychologist James Rotton, Colorado State University astronomer Roger Culver, and University of Saskatchewan psychologist Ivan W. Kelly have searched far and wide for any consistent behavioral effects of the full moon.

I wonder how much they were paid to say that?

Well, I'd say Psychologist and Astronomer money respectively.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 15, 2014, 08:22:22 AM
Well, I'd say Psychologist and Astronomer money respectively.


LOL... poor old jroa must think that research scientists work for free?

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on October 15, 2014, 02:06:23 PM
So guys, back to the subject.
When can I expect to become a werewolf or grow an autism or whatever happens with long term exposure to the moon? Including supermoons by the way.

It's been pretty well a month or so. Can I call this sufficiently BS, or is there something I'm doing wrong?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Macpie on October 15, 2014, 02:25:08 PM
So guys, back to the subject.
When can I expect to become a werewolf or grow an autism or whatever happens with long term exposure to the moon? Including supermoons by the way.

It's been pretty well a month or so. Can I call this sufficiently BS, or is there something I'm doing wrong?

Can't you see it? It has already happened! You have spent all your life walking under the Moon just like that, and now your small, moonlight-fried brain makes you believe in RE! Despite all the evidence for FE!!!1!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on October 15, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
Holy sweet atheismo you're right!
I've gone full lunatic!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Macpie on October 15, 2014, 02:37:09 PM
I've gone full lunatic!

See? Even the name fits :D

By the way, I wonder what do these moon-will-kill-us-all guys think causes the moonlight to be so "harmful". Is it some weird frequency/wavelength? Polarization, maybe? Or does it contain some "moonar" spores which can infect us and make us sick?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 16, 2014, 01:23:04 PM
By the way, I wonder what do these moon-will-kill-us-all guys think causes the moonlight to be so "harmful".


It's the subtle but undeniable effects of denpressure on the light's wavelength as it travels through the earth's atmoplane.  Denpressure twists the light's molecular structure, and increases its UV component by several hundred per cent.  It therefore acts like sunburn on a summer's day.  Apparently most flat earthers avoid this danger by wearing SPF 35 and dark glasses when they're outside during the night.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: piewalker442 on October 21, 2014, 08:41:57 AM
As you all say, autism becomes worse under moonlight, these poor, innocent people slowly being seduced under the influence of the government, who use the moon to send light waves which stimulate parts of the brain, causing this heinous phenomenon (it's why sometimes when we look at the full moon, it's so bright we just can't look away). Perhaps down syndrome is caused by this as well, as pregnant women look into the moon their fetus' minds become corrupt. BEWARE OF THIS PHENOMENON CALLED MOON BURN, BY WEARING FOIL HATS (METALLIC POTS PREFERRED), LEAD JACKETS, AS WELL AS SUNGLASSES  8) THAT CANCEL OUT INFRARED WAVES!!!!!! HEED TO THIS PLEASE IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!!!!!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: jyablon on February 26, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
I'm not sure what's more dangerous the moon or your stupidity what does the media and government gain by not telling people the earth is flat
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on February 27, 2015, 11:47:43 AM
i hadn't thought about this before, but it makes sense. sunlight causes skin cancer and sunburn, and the moon is just the same kind of object, just closer to the earth, with less in the way to disrupt the rays.
it seems so clear it could be dangerous. it's a pity so few people are aware of the true shape of the earth, and the real dangers.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on February 27, 2015, 02:35:14 PM
i hadn't thought about this before, but it makes sense. sunlight causes skin cancer and sunburn, and the moon is just the same kind of object, just closer to the earth, with less in the way to disrupt the rays.
it seems so clear it could be dangerous. it's a pity so few people are aware of the true shape of the earth, and the real dangers.

So-called "moonlight" is in fact simply reflected light irradiated by the sun.  The albedo of the moon is 0.038 at the UV wavelength of 1700 Angstroms, which is the harmful component of sunlight.  Albedo is a non-dimensional, unitless quantity that indicates how well a surface reflects solar energy. Albedo varies between 0 and 1.  Clean snow has an albedo of 0.9 as a comparison.

Moonlight has a solar radiation component which is about 1/500,000th of that of the sun at the earth's surface.  Or put another way, sunlight is approximately 500,000 times stronger than moonlight.

To think for even a moment that moonlight can cause sunburn or skin cancer is totally unfounded—to say the least.  I challenge any flat earther to provide any viable evidence that would contradict this, along with citations of course.  I also note the typical flat earth inclusion of the phrase "could be" when making alleged statements of fact.  They're commonly called "weasel words" and are usually employed by people who are unsure of their argument, and need to provide an escape clause when empirical evidence destroys their claims.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on February 28, 2015, 10:40:30 AM
i hadn't thought about this before, but it makes sense. sunlight causes skin cancer and sunburn, and the moon is just the same kind of object, just closer to the earth, with less in the way to disrupt the rays.
it seems so clear it could be dangerous. it's a pity so few people are aware of the true shape of the earth, and the real dangers.

So-called "moonlight" is in fact simply reflected light irradiated by the sun.  The albedo of the moon is 0.038 at the UV wavelength of 1700 Angstroms, which is the harmful component of sunlight.  Albedo is a non-dimensional, unitless quantity that indicates how well a surface reflects solar energy. Albedo varies between 0 and 1.  Clean snow has an albedo of 0.9 as a comparison.

Moonlight has a solar radiation component which is about 1/500,000th of that of the sun at the earth's surface.  Or put another way, sunlight is approximately 500,000 times stronger than moonlight.

To think for even a moment that moonlight can cause sunburn or skin cancer is totally unfounded—to say the least.  I challenge any flat earther to provide any viable evidence that would contradict this, along with citations of course.  I also note the typical flat earth inclusion of the phrase "could be" when making alleged statements of fact.  They're commonly called "weasel words" and are usually employed by people who are unsure of their argument, and need to provide an escape clause when empirical evidence destroys their claims.

the scientific community refuses to take us seriously and so we cannot test or provide evidence of what we say. they are too concerned with their monopoly. would you suggest we steal or build from scratch high functioning machines?
i can say only 'i believe' or 'could be' as all i am able to offer is my opinion, which is backed by observation, but cannot be backed with details because there is no way to get them. you do not conduct any of these fantasy experiments you rely on yourself, you trust the words of others and liars and money-seeking crooks. we do not do the same, because we are better than that.

think for yourself. just thinking at all is a good start.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 01, 2015, 04:03:39 AM
The scientific community refuses to take us seriously and so we cannot test or provide evidence of what we say. they are too concerned with their monopoly. would you suggest we steal or build from scratch high functioning machines?

The scientific community doesn't take the flat earthers seriously simply because they've yet to provide even the tiniest modicum of empirical evidence supporting their multitude of pseudo-scientific notions.  I'm not sure what you mean by a scientific "monopoly"?  It's rather that the accredited sciences fully satisfy all our theories and observations of astrophysical and geophysical phenomena.  There's currently no competing body of alternative scientific theories, so I guess I'd agree on the monopoly definition in its simplest meaning—the exclusive possession of something.
 
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I can say only 'i believe' or 'could be' as all i am able to offer is my opinion, which is backed by observation, but cannot be backed with details because there is no way to get them.

I understand this, but I repeat; opinions do not equate with established, verifiable theories. An opinion is defined as a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

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You do not conduct any of these fantasy experiments you rely on yourself, you trust the words of others and liars and money-seeking crooks. we do not do the same, because we are better than that.

Of course I "trust" the experimentation and research results of thousands of scientists with multiple doctorates in numerous fields of endeavour.  Why shouldn't I?  Don't you?
And what do you mean by claiming that I also trust the words of liars and crooks?  And how dare you claim that you (flat earthers?) are "better" than round earthers at discerning the liars from the straight-shooters?

So... on the one hand you admit to having no evidence supporting your own theories, but at the same time claim that mine are bogus or immaterial?  How exactly does this "logic" work?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 01, 2015, 06:21:15 AM
The scientific community refuses to take us seriously and so we cannot test or provide evidence of what we say. they are too concerned with their monopoly. would you suggest we steal or build from scratch high functioning machines?

The scientific community doesn't take the flat earthers seriously simply because they've yet to provide even the tiniest modicum of empirical evidence supporting their multitude of pseudo-scientific notions.  I'm not sure what you mean by a scientific "monopoly"?  It's rather that the accredited sciences fully satisfy all our theories and observations of astrophysical and geophysical phenomena.  There's currently no competing body of alternative scientific theories, so I guess I'd agree on the monopoly definition in its simplest meaning—the exclusive possession of something.
 
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I can say only 'i believe' or 'could be' as all i am able to offer is my opinion, which is backed by observation, but cannot be backed with details because there is no way to get them.

I understand this, but I repeat; opinions do not equate with established, verifiable theories. An opinion is defined as a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

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You do not conduct any of these fantasy experiments you rely on yourself, you trust the words of others and liars and money-seeking crooks. we do not do the same, because we are better than that.

Of course I "trust" the experimentation and research results of thousands of scientists with multiple doctorates in numerous fields of endeavour.  Why shouldn't I?  Don't you?
And what do you mean by claiming that I also trust the words of liars and crooks?  And how dare you claim that you (flat earthers?) are "better" than round earthers at discerning the liars from the straight-shooters?

So... on the one hand you admit to having no evidence supporting your own theories, but at the same time claim that mine are bogus or immaterial?  How exactly does this "logic" work?

flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to. just because someone can come up with a fiction that matches reality, doesn't mean it's true. you need evidence to back it up, and this is evidence exclusively the province of lying scientists, and inaccessible to everyone else. you take their word for it, and do not thing for yourself.
scientists are paid to get results. if you pay someone to do something, they're biased. a little research shows that scientists are paid by oil companies and sugar companies, and get different results to scientists who aren't. scientists are not reliable.

we do not need to distinguish liars from crooks, because we think for ourselves.
either the earth is stationary, in which gravity does not exist, and the supposed formation of the round earth could not have happened. if the earth is accelerating, it would be flattened by that acceleration, and would not have become a sphere. that is a simple example of how we can think for ourselves.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 01, 2015, 06:52:35 AM
Flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to.

This is just pure, unadulterated nonsense, and you know it.  If you can "easily" provide evidence, then how are you being stopped and by whom?  And doesn't that nonsensical excuse seem a little all-too-convenient?

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Just because someone can come up with a fiction that matches reality, doesn't mean it's true.

Uh... you do know what a non sequitur is don't you?  Maybe not LOL.

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You need evidence to back it up, and this is evidence exclusively the province of lying scientists, and inaccessible to everyone else.

You're obviously living in some sort of internally-created fantasy world.  Do you really think that every one of the world's 6 million scientists is "lying" and covering up the true shape of the earth?  Seriously?  Please look up the word paranoia in your medical dictionary.  It's important that you understand its meaning before you next see your psychiatrist.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: kman on March 01, 2015, 07:05:38 AM

Flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to.

Please give us an outline of an experiment you would do if you were "permitted"
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 01, 2015, 07:11:31 AM

Flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to.

Please give us an outline of an experiment you would do if you were "permitted"

well one obvious thing to do would be to launch a nasa rocket and see what actually happens. then we can measure levels of resistance at sea level, at the height of an airplane, and as high as possible. that way aether will be confirmed.

such things are only done by scientists who've already decided what they want to see, however.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: inquisitive on March 01, 2015, 07:51:31 AM

Flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to.

Please give us an outline of an experiment you would do if you were "permitted"

well one obvious thing to do would be to launch a nasa rocket and see what actually happens. then we can measure levels of resistance at sea level, at the height of an airplane, and as high as possible. that way aether will be confirmed.

such things are only done by scientists who've already decided what they want to see, however.
Other makes of rocket are available.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 02, 2015, 04:22:35 PM
Flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to.

You can easily redress this complaint of yours about being censured elsewhere.  Surely this site is the perfect place to provide the alleged "evidence" you have supporting a flat earth?  After all, it is one of the public faces of the FES and its beliefs.

Or are you claiming that the moderators will not allow you to do so?  Similarly, how could any round earther prevent you from posting your evidence on this forum?  Your unevidenced "not permitted to" excuse for not providing it is simply because you don't have any.

So go ahead—prove me wrong.  If you can that is.    ::)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 03, 2015, 06:21:37 AM
Flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to.

You can easily redress this complaint of yours about being censured elsewhere.  Surely this site is the perfect place to provide the alleged "evidence" you have supporting a flat earth?  After all, it is one of the public faces of the FES and its beliefs.

Or are you claiming that the moderators will not allow you to do so?  Similarly, how could any round earther prevent you from posting your evidence on this forum?  Your unevidenced "not permitted to" excuse for not providing it is simply because you don't have any.

So go ahead—prove me wrong.  If you can that is.    ::)

try reading. i've posted plenty of evidence for the facts on this forum, i just do not have the ability to be scientifically rigorous without access to equipment that would ruin me for thousands.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on March 03, 2015, 06:44:15 AM
Flat earthers could provide plenty of evidence, but we do not have the ability to do so because we are not permitted to.

You can easily redress this complaint of yours about being censured elsewhere.  Surely this site is the perfect place to provide the alleged "evidence" you have supporting a flat earth?  After all, it is one of the public faces of the FES and its beliefs.

Or are you claiming that the moderators will not allow you to do so?  Similarly, how could any round earther prevent you from posting your evidence on this forum?  Your unevidenced "not permitted to" excuse for not providing it is simply because you don't have any.

So go ahead—prove me wrong.  If you can that is.    ::)

try reading. i've posted plenty of evidence for the facts on this forum,
Where? All I've read from you is speculation that you claim to be true without evidence. If I missed some facts, please point to them.

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i just do not have the ability to be scientifically rigorous without access to equipment that would ruin me for thousands.

I see... so you can't provide "factual" facts, just the "I think it should be this but I can't test it so I have no data" kind of facts. The latter are more properly called "opinions" or "conjecture", not "facts".
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 04, 2015, 04:56:07 AM
I've posted plenty of evidence for the facts on this forum, I just do not have the ability to be scientifically rigorous without access to equipment that would ruin me for thousands.

Nope.  You've not posted one single scientific reference work in support of any of your claims.  It didn't take me long—and yes, I was bored LOL—to check out all your posts over the past couple of weeks since you joined this forum, so I know what I'm talking about, and can even quote some of your responses verbatim when asked by round earthers to cite your sources, or to respond with citations disproving any round earth claims:

•  Offer some evidence for your bs, or are you incapable of that?
•  I have provided simple evidence based on what I've already stated as fact
•  Look at my previous posts, I'm sick of repeating myself
•  I have stated my beliefs clearly several times
•  I have described what it does
•  I have answered you, stop being so foolish
•  I have answered that, pay attention
•  I have explained myself well enough
•  I answered, now you pretend I haven't because you can't deal with the fact you're wrong
•  Try thinking rather than spewing garbage
•  How about in the fucking message you replied to you total fucking buffoon?
•  I've no idea what you're trying to get at
•  I'm about to make another post explaining the solar system. Wait for that
•  You've missed a lot of discussion where I have refuted every piece of bs you round earthers threw up.
•  You're lying. Try again
•  You're too brainwashed and arrogant to admit that you are wrong
•  You keep telling yourself that
•  If you consider what I have said, the answers are readily apparent
•  I don't give a damn about relativity
•  At least you admit your claims are bullshit

The majority of your comments are typical of this format, but did I see any references or citations that I could check?  Nope.

PS:  I've auto-corrected your woeful syntax, but can you please get your CAPS lock and/or your Shift key fixed?

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 04, 2015, 05:54:33 AM
I've posted plenty of evidence for the facts on this forum, I just do not have the ability to be scientifically rigorous without access to equipment that would ruin me for thousands.

Nope.  You've not posted one single scientific reference work in support of any of your claims.  It didn't take me long—and yes, I was bored LOL—to check out all your posts over the past couple of weeks since you joined this forum, so I know what I'm talking about, and can even quote some of your responses verbatim when asked by round earthers to cite your sources, or to respond with citations disproving any round earth claims:

•  Offer some evidence for your bs, or are you incapable of that?
•  I have provided simple evidence based on what I've already stated as fact
•  Look at my previous posts, I'm sick of repeating myself
•  I have stated my beliefs clearly several times
•  I have described what it does
•  I have answered you, stop being so foolish
•  I have answered that, pay attention
•  I have explained myself well enough
•  I answered, now you pretend I haven't because you can't deal with the fact you're wrong
•  Try thinking rather than spewing garbage
•  How about in the fucking message you replied to you total fucking buffoon?
•  I've no idea what you're trying to get at
•  I'm about to make another post explaining the solar system. Wait for that
•  You've missed a lot of discussion where I have refuted every piece of bs you round earthers threw up.
•  You're lying. Try again
•  You're too brainwashed and arrogant to admit that you are wrong
•  You keep telling yourself that
•  If you consider what I have said, the answers are readily apparent
•  I don't give a damn about relativity
•  At least you admit your claims are bullshit

The majority of your comments are typical of this format, but did I see any references or citations that I could check?  Nope.

PS:  I've auto-corrected your woeful syntax, but can you please get your CAPS lock and/or your Shift key fixed?

FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT. I PROVIDE SIMPLE LOGIC FOR MY CLAIMS, AND IF YOU HAVE READ MY POSTS AS YOU CLAIM YOU WOULD SEE THAT. WHY DO YOU OBJECT TO BEING ASKED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF?
ARE YOU DENYING THAT LOGIC WORKS? YOU DON'T NEED ARTICLES OF GIBBERISH FROM PEOPLE OF DUBIOUS MERIT WHEN SIMPLE LOGIC IS ENOUGH TO DRAW MANY CONCLUSIONS. IGNORING THAT ONLY MAKES YOU LOOK BAD.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 04, 2015, 06:16:19 AM
FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT. I PROVIDE SIMPLE LOGIC FOR MY CLAIMS, AND IF YOU HAVE READ MY POSTS AS YOU CLAIM YOU WOULD SEE THAT. WHY DO YOU OBJECT TO BEING ASKED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF?
ARE YOU DENYING THAT LOGIC WORKS? YOU DON'T NEED ARTICLES OF GIBBERISH FROM PEOPLE OF DUBIOUS MERIT WHEN SIMPLE LOGIC IS ENOUGH TO DRAW MANY CONCLUSIONS. IGNORING THAT ONLY MAKES YOU LOOK BAD.

Firstly, can you please refrain from using all CAPS.  It's considered bad netiquette as it means you're SHOUTING.  And perhaps you should be using some of those spare CAPS in the rest of your comments on these forums in order to make them more legible, and not look as though they were written by a dyslexic grade-schooler.

So... can you quote exactly what "gibberish" I've posted from scientists of "dubious merit"?  Can you also post viable evidence that indicates that any of these scientists act dubiously in order to deceive anybody—or is this just your own personal opinion, unsubstantiated by any evidence?

Can you also explain exactly how you define "simple logic" as regards matters scientific.  Are you claiming that one need not refer to accredited scientific texts in order to fully understand geophysics and astrophysics and astronomy for example?  Or are you claiming that simply "thinking for yourself" is sufficient in understanding the universe, with zero scientific input from suitably qualified third parties?

That's a pretty bold statement to make; let's see you defend it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 04, 2015, 08:16:14 AM
FOCUS ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT. I PROVIDE SIMPLE LOGIC FOR MY CLAIMS, AND IF YOU HAVE READ MY POSTS AS YOU CLAIM YOU WOULD SEE THAT. WHY DO YOU OBJECT TO BEING ASKED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF?
ARE YOU DENYING THAT LOGIC WORKS? YOU DON'T NEED ARTICLES OF GIBBERISH FROM PEOPLE OF DUBIOUS MERIT WHEN SIMPLE LOGIC IS ENOUGH TO DRAW MANY CONCLUSIONS. IGNORING THAT ONLY MAKES YOU LOOK BAD.

Firstly, can you please refrain from using all CAPS.  It's considered bad netiquette as it means you're SHOUTING.  And perhaps you should be using some of those spare CAPS in the rest of your comments on these forums in order to make them more legible, and not look as though they were written by a dyslexic grade-schooler.

So... can you quote exactly what "gibberish" I've posted from scientists of "dubious merit"?  Can you also post viable evidence that indicates that any of these scientists act dubiously in order to deceive anybody—or is this just your own personal opinion, unsubstantiated by any evidence?

Can you also explain exactly how you define "simple logic" as regards matters scientific.  Are you claiming that one need not refer to accredited scientific texts in order to fully understand geophysics and astrophysics and astronomy for example?  Or are you claiming that simply "thinking for yourself" is sufficient in understanding the universe, with zero scientific input from suitably qualified third parties?

That's a pretty bold statement to make; let's see you defend it.

the caps is called sarcasm. i am completely intelligible the rest of the time, you insist on meaningless additions.

simple logic is a starting point. if that does not hold, no science holds. so if something does not align with simple logic, it cannot align with any science. it's very simple. if science showed you that tables could fly, would you believe it, or think "that's wrong, no they can't?"
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on March 04, 2015, 01:30:30 PM
the caps is called sarcasm.
No.  All caps is considered shouting.  Posting blue text is considered sarcasm.

Also, this thread is about the dangers of moonlight.  Please stay on topic.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 04, 2015, 01:33:02 PM
the caps is called sarcasm.
No.  All caps is considered shouting.  Posting blue text is considered sarcasm.

Also, this thread is about the dangers of moonlight.  Please stay on topic.

context.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 04, 2015, 03:44:19 PM
If science showed you that tables could fly, would you believe it, or think "that's wrong, no they can't?"

So you can't name specifically any scientists of dubious intent?  You're happy to just claim every single one is a fraudster?  Wow... that's sure sound evidence in support of your bizarre pseudo-scientific notions LOL.

And of course, common logic tells me that if scientists claimed tables could fly, then I'd expect to see some sort of empirical evidence supporting that claim wouldn't I... using the same common logic that tells me moonlight can't cause me sunburn.

Does your common logic tell you that moonlight can be dangerous and you need to take precautions, or do you disagree with your flat earth peers on this point?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on March 04, 2015, 07:41:10 PM
If science showed you that tables could fly, would you believe it, or think "that's wrong, no they can't?"
Are you suggesting that tables can't fly? ???
FLYING TABLE (http://#ws)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 05, 2015, 03:07:14 AM
If science showed you that tables could fly, would you believe it, or think "that's wrong, no they can't?"

So you can't name specifically any scientists of dubious intent?  You're happy to just claim every single one is a fraudster?  Wow... that's sure sound evidence in support of your bizarre pseudo-scientific notions LOL.

And of course, common logic tells me that if scientists claimed tables could fly, then I'd expect to see some sort of empirical evidence supporting that claim wouldn't I... using the same common logic that tells me moonlight can't cause me sunburn.

Does your common logic tell you that moonlight can be dangerous and you need to take precautions, or do you disagree with your flat earth peers on this point?

given the moon is obviously a star like the sun, it's clear it can be dangerous. it's less focused due to how often it spins, but the danger is there.

if science defies logic, then there is no reason to accept that science. it's simple. logic is where i first go to when i hear a discovery.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on March 05, 2015, 03:59:00 AM
If science showed you that tables could fly, would you believe it, or think "that's wrong, no they can't?"

So you can't name specifically any scientists of dubious intent?  You're happy to just claim every single one is a fraudster?  Wow... that's sure sound evidence in support of your bizarre pseudo-scientific notions LOL.

And of course, common logic tells me that if scientists claimed tables could fly, then I'd expect to see some sort of empirical evidence supporting that claim wouldn't I... using the same common logic that tells me moonlight can't cause me sunburn.

Does your common logic tell you that moonlight can be dangerous and you need to take precautions, or do you disagree with your flat earth peers on this point?

given the moon is obviously a star like the sun, it's clear it can be dangerous. it's less focused due to how often it spins, but the danger is there.

if science defies logic, then there is no reason to accept that science. it's simple. logic is where i first go to when i hear a discovery.

Logically, the moon doesn't do what flatties say it does. If you look back a few pages I was experimenting with sleeping under the moon. I think it was like a month or two before I stopped. No burns, no adverse effects. (And no NASA shills trying to shut my experiment down... )

The spinning argument I think is BS. You can see features of the moon, and they appear stationary. Plus, it's not a wacky water (light?) weasel. If it emitted light/radiation like the sun, it wouldn't matter one lick how fast either of us were rotating.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on March 05, 2015, 05:28:59 AM
Arith has acquired lunacy and does not even know it.  Play with fire (moon) and you are going to get burnt. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 05, 2015, 07:43:52 AM
Given the moon is obviously a star like the sun, it's clear it can be dangerous.

Uh... are you seriously claiming that the moon is a star?  You do understand what a star is don't you?  A sphere of plasma held together by its own gravity.  And assuming that was the case, how then do you explain the different phases of the moon?

Wouldn't always appear as "full" whenever it was in our particular eastern or western hemisphere, as it would be luminous?

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 05, 2015, 07:49:41 AM
Given the moon is obviously a star like the sun, it's clear it can be dangerous.

Uh... are you seriously claiming that the moon is a star?  You do understand what a star is don't you?  A sphere of plasma held together by its own gravity.  And assuming that was the case, how then do you explain the different phases of the moon?

Wouldn't always appear as "full" whenever it was in our particular eastern or western hemisphere, as it would be luminous?

that is not what a star is. stars are metal cores heated white hot by friction with the aether, coated in rock which is not luminescent, which creates the spotlight effect. it rotates, there is no reason to think we see only one face of the moon. we see the moon from the side, and see the same traits as only one face of the moon gives off light.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 05, 2015, 08:30:07 AM
Stars are metal cores heated white hot by friction with the aether, coated in rock which is not luminescent, which creates the spotlight effect.


Citation required to support this claim.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 05, 2015, 08:44:23 AM
Stars are metal cores heated white hot by friction with the aether, coated in rock which is not luminescent, which creates the spotlight effect.


Citation required to support this claim.

logic works just fine. it would be a natural consequence of a flat earth and aetheric whirlpools, and makes much more sense than magically stuck together gas.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on March 05, 2015, 08:51:44 AM
that is not what a star is. stars are metal cores heated white hot by friction with the aether, coated in rock which is not luminescent, which creates the spotlight effect.
Then why does the moon have phases while the sun doesn't?  Why is the bright part of the moon always facing towards the sun?

it rotates, there is no reason to think we see only one face of the moon.
Well, yes, the moon does rotate, but the period of rotation is exactly the same period as its orbit around the earth resulting in us seeing the same side of the moon all month.  This is referred to as tidal locking. 

we see the moon from the side, and see the same traits as only one face of the moon gives off light.
Incorrect.  Properly exposed, traits from the dark portions of the moon are visible.
(http://wallpho.com/wp-content/uploads/8589130497867-winter-crescent-moon-wallpaper-hd.jpg)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 05, 2015, 08:53:02 AM
Stars are metal cores heated white hot by friction with the aether, coated in rock which is not luminescent, which creates the spotlight effect.


Citation required to support this claim.

logic works just fine. it would be a natural consequence of a flat earth and aetheric whirlpools, and makes much more sense than magically stuck together gas.

Uh... this is not a citation.  A citation is a reference to an accredited scientific source which supports one's claims.  What you've posted here is nothing more than a personal opinion.  Science is not based on personal opinions but verifiable facts.  There's also no magic involved with science;  if you think there is, then it's nothing more than pseudo-science.

You've also yet to provide any empirical evidence to support your notions of "aether" and its purported "whirlpools", so you entire argument as it stands here is a major non sequitur.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on March 05, 2015, 08:54:47 AM
Stars are metal cores heated white hot by friction with the aether, coated in rock which is not luminescent, which creates the spotlight effect.


Citation required to support this claim.

logic works just fine. it would be a natural consequence of a flat earth and aetheric whirlpools, and makes much more sense than magically stuck together gas.

Uh... this is not a citation.  A citation is a reference to an accredited scientific source which supports one's claims.  What you've posted here is nothing more than a personal opinion.  Science is not based on personal opinions but verifiable facts.  There's also no magic involved with science;  if you think there is, then it's nothing more than pseudo-science.

You've also yet to provide any empirical evidence to support your notions of "aether" and its purported "whirlpools", so you entire argument as it stands here is a major non sequitur.

didn't you say you'd stop engaging with me? please do.

your worship of scientists has nothing to do with logic. logic is all that is needed. empirical evidence means nothing without logic.

please try to stay on topic, anyway. this is about how the moon can be dangerous. clearly, it can be.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 05, 2015, 09:13:51 AM
This is about how the moon can be dangerous. clearly, it can be.

So... another personal opinion? 

At any rate, what then, in your personal opinion, makes moonlight dangerous?  What are the potential negative effects on the human body, and how do they manifest themselves?  What sorts of treatment would a medical practitioner utilise to heal these ill-effects?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on March 05, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
At any rate, what then, in your personal opinion, makes moonlight dangerous?  What are the potential negative effects on the human body, and how do they manifest themselves?  What sorts of treatment would a medical practitioner utilise to heal these ill-effects?


Maybe you should actually start from the first post in this thread.  You act like you just came up with an original question that nobody has ever thought to ask in all of the years that this thread has been active. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 05, 2015, 10:02:38 AM
Maybe you should actually start from the first post in this thread.  You act like you just came up with an original question that nobody has ever thought to ask in all of the years that this thread has been active.

You mean all that nonsense about werewolves etc?  Seriously?

Rather than wasting your time with your typically snide little one-liners jroa, did it ever occur to you to maybe—just maybe—address my question?  You know... give a legitimate answer to a legitimate question for once.

Or is it that you're unable to answer my questions about moonlight's harmful effects?  Hmmm...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on March 06, 2015, 03:51:44 AM
Arith has acquired lunacy and does not even know it.  Play with fire (moon) and you are going to get burnt.

Heh yeah, those moon shrimp can really do a number on you.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: simplyfascinated on March 28, 2015, 10:23:28 AM
I'm sorry, but the site you linked us to also has a vast number of disclaimers to go along with this hysteria.

"A meta-analysis of thirty-seven studies that examined relationships between the moon's four phases and human behavior revealed no significant correlation. The authors found that, of twenty-three studies that had claimed to show correlation, nearly half contained at least one statistical error.[1][3] Similarly, in a review of twenty studies examining correlations between Moon phase and suicides, most of the twenty studies found no correlation, and the ones that did report positive results were inconsistent with each other.[3]"

This is a quote from the site, but there are also numerous other disclaimers that there is in fact no correlation to the claimed fears of the moon and actual events.

I just hope you have a good life. Life in fear is life without joy.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 28, 2015, 05:21:48 PM
What's so funny about this "dangers" of moonlight thread is that the flat earthers can't seem to comprehend the simple grade-school science that says that so-called moonlight is nothing more than reflected light from the sun.  They seem to regard the moon with the same ill-educated awe that 14th century peasants did, as though its reflected light has some powerful, mystical properties uniquely its own.

Although... I've often wondered if this entire thread is simply an in-joke in order to test the limit's of peoples clear thinking abilities or powers of logic—post something so utterly outrageous that even a trained baboon would reject it—and then sit back and watch the serious and unnecessarily involved attempts mounted to shoot it down.

Recently, one of the brighter stars [sic] of the flat earth movement, JRoweSkeptic, actually said that "Logic is all that is needed. Empirical evidence means nothing without logic."  I know this sounds unbelievably naive to any person involved or interested in the sciences, but as the guy has repeated "this logic outweighs evidence" mantra several times elsewhere on these forums, I think he actually believes it LOL.

When I asked JRoweSkeptic the following:  "what then, in your personal opinion, makes moonlight dangerous?  What are the potential negative effects on the human body, and how do they manifest themselves?  What sorts of treatment would a medical practitioner utilise to heal these ill-effects?" the ever-protective mother hen of flat earth proponents, jroa, was embarrassingly quick in leaping to the defence of the deluded JRoweSkeptic, and admonish me for allegedly not reading the thread in its entirety (which I had of course—I always do).  Due to his  haste, jroa apparently thought I'd merely asked a question that had already been addressed numerous times previously;  what he failed to notice was that it was a question directed specifically at JRoweSkeptic.  (As per my bolding above.)

Of course, other than giving me a slap on the wrist for having the temerity to ask a flat earther a perfectly legitimate question—considering the nature of the thread—jroa was not forthcoming with any relevant, on-topic response of his own.  Which is his usual modus operandi—forever the playground bully but never the teacher.

It's also of note that JRoweSkeptic never returned to elaborate on his claims about the "harmful" effects of moonlight.  He obviously realised that he'd made somewhat of a fool of himself by jumping into the debate with insufficient prior knowledge of the topic, but this withdrawal from his often ludicrous assertions and misrepresentations of fact is not unusual across these forums.

"Spooky effects have been ascribed to the phases of the moon.... But when the statistics are redone properly, the correlation with lunar phase always evaporates.... Yet many sensible people—including police officers and emergency room staff—continue to believe otherwise."

—Steven Strogatz PhD  (Schurman Professor of applied mathematics at US Cornell University)

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: FalseProphet on March 28, 2015, 06:04:32 PM
  They seem to regard the moon with the same ill-educated awe that 14th century peasants did, as though its reflected light has some powerful, mystical properties uniquely its own.

Can't see nothing bad about this awe - as long as you don't try to make a science off it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on March 28, 2015, 08:57:29 PM
  They seem to regard the moon with the same ill-educated awe that 14th century peasants did, as though its reflected light has some powerful, mystical properties uniquely its own.

Can't see nothing bad about this awe - as long as you don't try to make a science off it.

Unfortunate, for many flat earthers, it seems they do make "science" out of it.  Or, as we say in the real world, pseudoscience.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: HansS on April 03, 2015, 02:57:44 AM
I saw someone mention that we can't afford to take measurements because it would make them poor by a few thousand dollars.  A simple glass prism for around $5 and a piece of black paper will tell you in a few minutes that the light spectrum (frequencies, wavelengths) of sunlight and moon light are very similar, except for some of the energy is absorbed by the lunar surface.  That's how they guessed what the moon was made of before they got there.  Same way that we try to figure out which Kepler planets have water... just a bit fancier equipment than the above.

A $2 flashlight and a pair of balls (tennis, golf, softball, hardball, etc) and a few hand-sketched diagrams would disprove many of the FE assertions, if those have the determination to want to prove it to themselves.

A rocket can be made for 100-200$ that will go up to the top of the atmosphere, with a video camera.  Many amateurs have already done this, and posted their videos.  See one random example (more expensive example but cool video) (http://)

I DO use a 50% grey filter when observing the moon in a telescope, because the dark-adapted eye at night mildly freaks out when the light level goes from 0.001 lux of a dark overcast moonless night, to 1 lux full moonlight (compared to up to 100 k lux for sunlight).  This happens just as easily on a sunny day going from inside to outside.  Another reason for the filter is that my telescope makes my 1/8 inch eyeball opening into a 12" one, turning moonlight into sunlight.  See more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lux)

There are many newly found effects that occur in the upper atmosphere / ionosphere / earths magnetic field, as well as known very subtle shifts in gravity caused by lunar orbit.  Whats strange is that animals seem to be aware of it.  (Look up Society of Amateur Radio Astronomers or SARA website for do-it-yourself ideas).  I don't know that we have any proper understanding of these fields on the brain, mostly since there aren't matching known frequency sensitivities (ie light vs electrical vs magnetic vs gravitational) with the brain.  BTW the brain is already optically opaque, so I am not sure how moonlight can affect the brain above and beyond the optical sensitivity of the skin (mostly to infrared and ultraviolet as heat and dangerous biological energy) and the eyes (super-narrow band of visible light frequencies ony).  The moon emits so little infrared (its cold light), and almost no UV.  If anything, the human nervous system is known to be sensitive to the near-field electrical effects (ie inch(s)) - I can speak on this because I am a patent co-holder on the TENS chronic pain easing device.  I don't know about any electromagnetic field (light, etc) that has any other impact.

Apparently Hitler did experiments of intense E and M fields impact on humans, found that his electrical bill was crazy, and didn't find much.  Fields strong enough to crumple the tin hat.  I didn't research this, but remember this from a documentary a long time ago.

Last week I got to look at the massive beam focussing and acceleration facilities at Stanford (SLAC).  Those guys can tell you stories about all the fun energies they play with, and the hundreds of experiments they did.  I wish I had the time to absorb it all.

BTW infrared is also detectable by common cell phone and pocket cameras. Take a cellphone photo of a security camera with a halo of IR lights around it.  These photos are not as good as the ones the military uses, cause we need to keep peoples warm boobs from showing through their clothing, so the cameras have built-in IR block filters.  These can be removed in many cameras, like my 40D, which allows use to take pictures like www.deepskycolors.com (http://www.deepskycolors.com) - all the pink colors in the photos are mixed from IR-only images taken by expensive IR cameras, by a neighbor friend of mine.  His first photos were taken with a 40D as well.  I also have nice sets of lunar eclipse photos taken with telescope, as well as a few of Venus whipping across the sun, surrounded by a few sunspots.  If you ask, I will take the time to post them.

Another thought, why would plants not take advantage of moonlight and harness the energy just as they have done with sunlight?  We now understand that plants' light energy absorption to be a chemical reaction that is so sophisticated that we can't easily recreate it ourselves.  I would postulate, because the only energy coming from the moon isn't worth bothering with because its too weak.  You are with me on the theory that plants have spent many millions of years evolving and without them all animals and most bacteria would die of starvation?

Anyways, its late, will continue another day.  I am happy to share hand-measurable details and methods with anyone who wishes to ask/discuss.  I am a detailed oriented person, and if you feel uncomfortable with what I say, I can leave.  But you know what that would mean...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 03, 2015, 04:07:52 AM
A flashlight shone through a prism will also give similar results to either sunlight or moonlight.  Does that mean the effects of the flashlight shining on the skin are exactly the same as standing in sunlight with unprotected skin?  I think not. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 03, 2015, 05:23:55 AM
A flashlight shone through a prism will also give similar results to either sunlight or moonlight.  Does that mean the effects of the flashlight shining on the skin are exactly the same as standing in sunlight with unprotected skin?  I think not.

If it's an LED flashlight it won't.  Totally different wavelength spread to sunlight.  Sorry to bring actual science  into the argument.       :P
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on April 03, 2015, 05:38:57 AM
A flashlight shone through a prism will also give similar results to either sunlight or moonlight.  Does that mean the effects of the flashlight shining on the skin are exactly the same as standing in sunlight with unprotected skin?  I think not.

If it's an LED flashlight it won't.  Totally different wavelength spread to sunlight.  Sorry to bring actual science  into the argument.       :P

LEDs and LED arrays can produce white light as well. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on April 08, 2015, 08:47:27 AM
A flashlight shone through a prism will also give similar results to either sunlight or moonlight.  Does that mean the effects of the flashlight shining on the skin are exactly the same as standing in sunlight with unprotected skin?  I think not.

If it's an LED flashlight it won't.  Totally different wavelength spread to sunlight.  Sorry to bring actual science  into the argument.       :P

LEDs and LED arrays can produce white light as well.
Actually, LEDs can produce an approximation of white light that your eye will consider to be "close enough".  Proper spectral analysis will produce a very different story.
(http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/lightandcolor/images/lightsourcesfigure3.jpg)
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/lightandcolor/lightsourcesintro.html (http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/lightandcolor/lightsourcesintro.html)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on April 13, 2015, 09:55:28 AM
A flashlight shone through a prism will also give similar results to either sunlight or moonlight.  Does that mean the effects of the flashlight shining on the skin are exactly the same as standing in sunlight with unprotected skin?  I think not.

If it's an LED flashlight it won't.  Totally different wavelength spread to sunlight.  Sorry to bring actual science  into the argument.       :P

LEDs and LED arrays can produce white light as well.
Actually, LEDs can produce an approximation of white light that your eye will consider to be "close enough".  Proper spectral analysis will produce a very different story.

Please don't further confuse the flat earthers such as jroa by introducing empirical scientific evidence into the debate.  At any rate, I'm more than sure that jroa instructs his family to never shine any LED flashlight in his direction.

Just in case LOL.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: The Ellimist on April 13, 2015, 03:54:49 PM
Apparently Hitler did experiments of intense E and M fields impact on humans, found that his electrical bill was crazy, and didn't find much.

His gas bill was even crazier.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on April 13, 2015, 04:43:52 PM
Maybe you should actually start from the first post in this thread.  You act like you just came up with an original question that nobody has ever thought to ask in all of the years that this thread has been active.

You mean all that nonsense about werewolves etc?  Seriously?

Rather than wasting your time with your typically snide little one-liners jroa, did it ever occur to you to maybe—just maybe—address my question?  You know... give a legitimate answer to a legitimate question for once.

Or is it that you're unable to answer my questions about moonlight's harmful effects?  Hmmm...

ausGeoff There is a song in "Man Of La Mancha"....."To dream the impossible dream"...Hmmm
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on April 13, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
A flashlight shone through a prism will also give similar results to either sunlight or moonlight.  Does that mean the effects of the flashlight shining on the skin are exactly the same as standing in sunlight with unprotected skin?  I think not.

If it's an LED flashlight it won't.  Totally different wavelength spread to sunlight.  Sorry to bring actual science  into the argument.       :P

LEDs and LED arrays can produce white light as well.
Actually, LEDs can produce an approximation of white light that your eye will consider to be "close enough".  Proper spectral analysis will produce a very different story.

Please don't further confuse the flat earthers such as jroa by introducing empirical scientific evidence into the debate.  At any rate, I'm more than sure that jroa instructs his family to never shine any LED flashlight in his direction.

Just in case LOL.

jroa shouldn't go driving or  walking by the highway at night either. Some cars, including the Toyota Corolla have LED headlights. Just in case also. LOL.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on April 13, 2015, 05:55:06 PM
Arith has acquired lunacy and does not even know it.  Play with fire (moon) and you are going to get burnt.

I believe there is something in Samuel Birley Rowbotham's "Earth Not A Globe" (ENAG) which states that moonlight supports combustion while sunlight suppresses combustion .
Is this what you mean, jroa ?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ZennerOne on April 24, 2015, 01:00:07 PM
I believe there is something in Samuel Birley Rowbotham's "Earth Not A Globe" (ENAG) which states that moonlight supports combustion while sunlight suppresses combustion.

This is correct.  I have taken the time to check out ENaG at some length(!), and quote the following passage from that document:

"It is a well known fact, that if the sun is allowed to shine strongly upon a common coal, coke, wood, or charcoal fire, the combustion is greatly diminished; and often the fire is extinguished.  It is not an uncommon thing for cooks, housewives, and others to draw down the blinds in summer time to prevent their fires being put out by the continued stream of sun-light pouring through the windows. Many philosophers have recently attempted to deny and ridicule this fact, but they are met, not only by the common sense and every-day experience of very practical people, but by the results of specially instituted experiments.

It is not so well known perhaps, but it is an equally decided fact, that when the light of the moon is allowed to play upon a common carbonaceous fire, the action is increased, the fire burns more vividly, and the fuel is more rapidly consumed."

I would appreciate a flat earther clarifying this for me, as it would seem to be counter-intuitive, because ENaG also claims sunlight is warm whilst moonlight is cool.  Is this not a contradiction?  Could any flat earther please provide me a simple experiment that proves these claims about sunlight and moonlight?  TIA.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on April 24, 2015, 06:29:44 PM
I believe there is something in Samuel Birley Rowbotham's "Earth Not A Globe" (ENAG) which states that moonlight supports combustion while sunlight suppresses combustion.

This is correct.  I have taken the time to check out ENaG at some length(!), and quote the following passage from that document:

"It is a well known fact, that if the sun is allowed to shine strongly upon a common coal, coke, wood, or charcoal fire, the combustion is greatly diminished; and often the fire is extinguished.  It is not an uncommon thing for cooks, housewives, and others to draw down the blinds in summer time to prevent their fires being put out by the continued stream of sun-light pouring through the windows. Many philosophers have recently attempted to deny and ridicule this fact, but they are met, not only by the common sense and every-day experience of very practical people, but by the results of specially instituted experiments.

It is not so well known perhaps, but it is an equally decided fact, that when the light of the moon is allowed to play upon a common carbonaceous fire, the action is increased, the fire burns more vividly, and the fuel is more rapidly consumed."

I would appreciate a flat earther clarifying this for me, as it would seem to be counter-intuitive, because ENaG also claims sunlight is warm whilst moonlight is cool.  Is this not a contradiction?  Could any flat earther please provide me a simple experiment that proves these claims about sunlight and moonlight?  TIA.

That was exactly what I have wondered about, too.  ::) ???

There is also something in ENAG which states that while directing a beam of sunlight on a thermometer will increase the temperature while directing a beam of  moonlight on a thermometer will decrease the temperature.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on May 11, 2015, 06:59:11 AM
There is also something in ENAG which states that while directing a beam of sunlight on a thermometer will increase the temperature while directing a beam of  moonlight on a thermometer will decrease the temperature.

It's also embarrassingly obvious that—after a month—the flat earthers can't support this claim with any viable scientific evidence.  Like most of their FEW, Rowbotham's meanderings are accepted at face value with zero attempts at justifying them.  And like when most of the harder round earth questions are asked, they all go very, very quiet, and conveniently disappear.

So... has any flat earther got the cojones to address this scenario?

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ZennerOne on May 16, 2015, 03:01:43 AM
I note that no flat earther has attempted to clarify the question I raised three weeks ago:
Quote
I would appreciate a flat earther clarifying this for me, as it would seem to be counter-intuitive, because ENaG also claims sunlight is warm whilst moonlight is cool.  Is this not a contradiction?  Could any flat earther please provide me a simple experiment that proves these claims about sunlight and moonlight?

I can only guess that once again, all the flat earthers shy away from addressing any legitimate round earther questions that cut too close to the bone, or require actual science to explain.  Point up any contradictions in their Flat Earth Wiki, and they all run away like startled field mice.  It is quite funny actually.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on June 01, 2015, 04:25:34 PM
The full strawberry moon is tomorrow evening.  There has been chatter warning people of potential side effects from this one.         
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: simplyfascinated on June 01, 2015, 07:51:44 PM
The full strawberry moon is tomorrow evening.  There has been chatter warning people of potential side effects from this one.       

This one always scares me. If I eat strawberries during a strawberry moon, I turn into Strawberry Shortcake. Thanks for the warning.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 01, 2015, 09:04:57 PM
The full strawberry moon is tomorrow evening.  There has been chatter warning people of potential side effects from this one.       

What symptoms should we be looking for?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on June 02, 2015, 02:52:25 AM
Physical and/or emotional changes. Those who experience the changes will know the specifics.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 02, 2015, 09:28:59 AM
The full strawberry moon is tomorrow evening.  There has been chatter warning people of potential side effects from this one.       

What symptoms should we be looking for?
Physical and/or emotional changes.

Well, that narrows it down.

How much exposure is safe? Is window glass sufficient protection? Is cloth?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on June 02, 2015, 02:51:22 PM
I agree. More funding is needed to determine safety thresholds. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: simplyfascinated on June 03, 2015, 01:59:15 PM
So.... did anyone experience repercussions of the Strawberry Moon?

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on June 03, 2015, 04:52:19 PM
I've been sleeping under the moon for nearly a year solid now.
No effects whatsoever.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 03, 2015, 09:13:46 PM
I was out in shorts and T-shirt under the Strawberry Moon last night, and not even a mild rash or stubbed toe. My wife didn't mention that I was any more insane than I usually am, and she usually notices these sorts of things and doesn't mind commenting on them.

I wish I knew what I was supposed to be watching out for, but the answer was a rather vague "stuff, and things and stuff", so not much help from the "experts".
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: simplyfascinated on June 03, 2015, 10:05:02 PM
Wellll I looked it up and came up with nothing, unless you're a witch. So there's that...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on June 06, 2015, 08:52:13 AM
This one always scares me. If I eat strawberries during a strawberry moon, I turn into Strawberry Shortcake. Thanks for the warning.

I love strawberry shortcake... yummy...    :D
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: harry1999 on June 12, 2015, 08:11:51 AM
Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions (http://)



(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L7N189l6R90/Tx92XVyE5wI/AAAAAAAADFM/bFS8D89P4fI/s400/full-moon.jpg)



Since the dawn of history, the Moon has possessed an almost unequalled hold over the imagination of man, provoking by turns fascination and even worship. Mankind has studied the Moon for thousands of years, and some human depictions of its luminescent features may be over 5,000 years old (http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Earth/OldStarCharts.html).


However for as long as man has revered the Moon, he has also feared it. This topic will chronicle how ancient cultures have perceived the Moon's harmful effects, how modern studies (both scientific and Zetetic) corroborate this view, and how and when to prepare to prepare for periods of high lunar activity and/or exposure. It will also provide a Zetetic Lunar Calendar, and a forecast/record of impending/past spikes in Lunar activity:


1. Moonlight: Historical & Socio-Cultural Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342370#msg1342370)

2. Moonlight: Scientific & Zetetic Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342371#msg1342371)

3. Moonlight: Precautions & Preparations (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342372#msg1342372)

4. The Zetetic Lunar Calendar (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342373#msg1342373)

5. The Lunar Forecast (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342894#msg1342894)


Alarmism is not our aim here at the Flat Earth Society, but the threat presented by contact with Lunar rays is significant, and the mainstream media has proven unwilling to alert the public to the evidence for and dangers of this hazard. Our only goal is to make sure that you and your loved ones remain safe.


Any suggestions regarding additions or improvements should be posted in this topic (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54426.0).

Im scuwrred af can u guide me I think im going insane..... I've been injecting viagra and asprin into my head to sooth the pain....
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: harry1999 on June 12, 2015, 08:37:13 AM
Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions (http://)



(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L7N189l6R90/Tx92XVyE5wI/AAAAAAAADFM/bFS8D89P4fI/s400/full-moon.jpg)



Since the dawn of history, the Moon has possessed an almost unequalled hold over the imagination of man, provoking by turns fascination and even worship. Mankind has studied the Moon for thousands of years, and some human depictions of its luminescent features may be over 5,000 years old (http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Earth/OldStarCharts.html).


However for as long as man has revered the Moon, he has also feared it. This topic will chronicle how ancient cultures have perceived the Moon's harmful effects, how modern studies (both scientific and Zetetic) corroborate this view, and how and when to prepare to prepare for periods of high lunar activity and/or exposure. It will also provide a Zetetic Lunar Calendar, and a forecast/record of impending/past spikes in Lunar activity:


1. Moonlight: Historical & Socio-Cultural Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342370#msg1342370)

2. Moonlight: Scientific & Zetetic Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342371#msg1342371)

3. Moonlight: Precautions & Preparations (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342372#msg1342372)

4. The Zetetic Lunar Calendar (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342373#msg1342373)

5. The Lunar Forecast (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342894#msg1342894)


Alarmism is not our aim here at the Flat Earth Society, but the threat presented by contact with Lunar rays is significant, and the mainstream media has proven unwilling to alert the public to the evidence for and dangers of this hazard. Our only goal is to make sure that you and your loved ones remain safe.


Any suggestions regarding additions or improvements should be posted in this topic (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54426.0).

YO i need 3 metric tons of foil can anyone hook me up my only solution right now is to inject viagra and expired birth control into the back of my head to calm the pain
Title: Re: Moonlight: Preparation & Precautions
Post by: harry1999 on June 15, 2015, 08:28:27 AM
Moonlight: Preparation & Precautions


Of course, the natural response when presented with such compelling evidence is to ask how one can avoid the risks posed by Lunar rays. Unfortunately, the Moon is an almost ever-present feature of our lives, and it emits its injurious beams for a considerable period almost every twenty-four hours.


The most important step, therefore, is to be aware of when such emissions are most likely to take place. Thankfully the Moon's emanations are regular, and therefore with sufficient research can be predicted, so that one can take steps to avoid it when it is most dangerous. Depending on your location, the apparent state of the Lunar cycle may vary, so we advise that you conduct independent, Zetetically rigorous research, preferably through remote means such as video cameras or specialized means of filtrating and projecting its light. You will soon record a cycle lasting approximately nine and-a-half days, punctuated by varying but regular degrees of Lunar emissions.


As the above research indicates that the harmful effects of the Moon correspond with the quantity of Moonlight to which one is exposed, the Full Moon is obviously particularly dangerous, as indeed are the Waxing and Waning Gibbous. Exposure to Moonlight during these periods should be kept to a bare minimum, and ideally should be limited to situations where contact is either necessary or unavoidable. The Waxing and Waning Crescent are obviously less dangerous, but nevertheless it is advised that one should not be foolhardy, as the limited amount of light produced by the Moon during these periods will be more than offset by any extensive exposure.


During the standard Lunar cycle, keeping regular hours and remaining indoors after dark should be enough to prevent illness in the majority of cases. However, many people may find themselves in situations where they are forced to expose themselves to Moonlight. In such cases, noted Zetetic James MacIntyre has the following advice:


When viewing the Moon, or expecting to face exposure to the Moon, please try to follow these procedures:

  • Wear sunglasses - Dark glasses may protect your eyes, which are particularly sensitive, from Moon rays which can damage your eyes.
  • Cover any exposed skin - Cases of Moonlight exposure to bare skin can be particularly severe. Always wear long sleeves, gloves and a hat. A balaclava or thick scarf can protect your nose, mouth, cheeks and ears from the Moon.


He also advises that even when one is inside, one should ensure that your shelter is adequately sealed and protected:


  • Protect your home - Moonlight can seep in through uncovered windows, doors and skylights. Make sure that you have thick curtains, or, better still, shutters on major windows which are likely to face the Moon. You may find it useful to tape reflective material, such as aluminium foil (shiny side out) on gaps in your home, or even on the windows themselves, in order to improve Moon-protection further.


Finally, one should take precautions to ensure the safety of any other biological life for which you may be responsible:


  • Make sure your pets are safe - The Moon can hurt animals just as much as humans. Consider bringing your pets indoors during the evening, or if you intend to let them roam the night, you may want to wrap them up in protective clothing just as you did with yourself!
  • Watch out for plants - Moonlight can putrefy many varieties of unsuspecting garden plant. Most flowers close their petals at night in order to protect them from Moon rays, but during the Super-harvest Moon this may not be enough. You may want to cover even self-defending flowers and other plants with aluminium foil or another protective material.


Though such measures should prove sufficent during the standard Lunar cycle, there are also occasional spikes in Lunar radiance, notably events such as the Super Moon (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=46826.0) and Super Harvest Moon (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42785.0). Though rare, during these events the Moon's intensity is noticeably greater, and thus its effects are especially powerful. During these crises, MacIntyre suggests that "it may be safer to stay indoors entirely and avoid exposure" (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42785.msg1060617#msg1060617). Indeed, some have even suggested that such events may cause an increase in the number of natural disasters here on Earth (http://www.astropro.com/features/articles/supermoon/). Accordingly, it may best to store or stockpile the following items:


  • Several days worth of clean water, uncontaminated by Lunar rays. Filling spare bottles, baths and sinks before hand is a useful strategy.
  • Proteinous tinned food and vegetables, along with any other non-perishables.
  • A portable gas stove with plenty of spare gas cannisters.
  • A fully-equipped first-aid kit.
  • An emergency heat source, and sufficient blankets and other insulative materials.
  • At least two high-quality flashlights, with plenty of spare batteries. If disaster strikes, you may be without electricity, and (for obvious reasons) you will be unable to navigate by Moonlight - indeed you should be sealed off in complete darkness. Make sure to have several high-quality flashlights that will run efficiently and reliably.
  • At least one multi-tool, and ideally a decent knife and perhaps a folding saw and hatchet.
  • Depending on the situation, it may be advisable to stock several firearms and plenty of ammunition, depending on local laws. Natural disasters often bring out the worst in some people, and under the deleterious influence of a Super (Harvest) Moon it could be even worse. Do not seek violence, but be prepared to defend you and your family from the exposed.


So that our members are aware of such crises, we will endeavour to keep an updated list of immanent Super Moon events, detailing the date, duration and (when possible) intensity of these spikes in Lunar activity.

My plants are already insane. Should I bring them to a mental hospital?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on June 28, 2015, 06:25:52 PM
We have confirmation from at least one emergency room administrator of increased admissions during a full moon for both emotional and physical reasons.

Maybe more will come forward, but it can not be said that no emergency room has a moonlight influence.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 30, 2015, 10:42:04 AM
We have confirmation from at least one emergency room administrator of increased admissions during a full moon for both emotional and physical reasons.

Maybe more will come forward, but it can not be said that no emergency room has a moonlight influence.

Citation, please.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: GreatandWiseTrixie on July 12, 2015, 09:15:15 PM
What do I do if I feed on, and thrive on both Lunar and Moon energy.

After all, it is in my name.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on July 14, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
What do I do if I feed on, and thrive on both Lunar and Moon energy.
Apparently you also feed on, and thrive on redundancy as well.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on July 31, 2015, 03:07:38 AM
We have a blue moon. Good Luck and be well.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Arith on August 11, 2015, 03:30:08 AM
We have a blue moon. Good Luck and be well.

This like that strawberry moon thing? Instead of red strawberries, nothing still happens?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Pongo on September 02, 2015, 12:54:08 PM
Super Moon coming on Sept 27th.  Make sure you're well protected.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 02, 2015, 12:58:40 PM
Blood moon.  Stay indoors and hide your womenz. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: chtwrone on September 11, 2015, 12:12:39 PM
Blood moon.  Stay indoors and hide your womenz.

What about my garden plants?  Shall I dig up all my flowers and put them in pots to bring inside?  What about the trees - will they die if I do the same to them?

Oh my god, all of these plants that are going to die - I can't bear the thought.

Damn moonlight - I hate you.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on September 27, 2015, 03:18:54 PM
Super Blood Moon:

ER's have noticed spikes in the past.

Plant studies have rendered opinion.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: MoonMan on November 13, 2015, 08:11:57 AM
I find this article very intriguing and have myself often wondered about the dangers of Moonlight. One matter that was not touched on though was the presence of Werewolfs during peak Moonlight times.  ???
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Touchmetie on November 19, 2015, 09:15:30 AM
Nice thread :)

I have found a recent re-discovery of moon light being cold or having a cooling effect on objects.
It seems hard to believe that the moons light is reflected sunlight these days.

For those who may not have heard of anything of this yet.

Controlled test. Cold moon light.
1 wind block
1 thermometer in the shade of the moon
1 thermometer in the light of the moon - an instant negative temperature shift occurs.

Youtube is blowing up with people second proofing.
(http://) or (http://) many people on youtube are claiming that moon light is in fact cold. I have replicated similar experiments myself it is indeed an interesting fact. I will try to find recorded data to look into.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on December 22, 2015, 04:09:12 PM
There will be a Santa moon on Thursday night.

Read Preparations & Precautions at your earliest convenience.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Empirical on January 10, 2016, 01:46:20 AM
This is a joke right?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on January 12, 2016, 01:36:38 PM
A conclusion is reached that it is not a joke for those who identified effects from a known cause or have provided results of research. Spend time reading through the entire thread starting from the OP including the links, keeping an open mind that research is just beginning. 

We are compelled to admit the claims of proof contributors as evidence until they can be proven otherwise.   

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Round and Proud on March 13, 2016, 08:29:37 AM
 Just when I thought it could not get more insane, I find this thread.

Y'all Rabid Bat Shit Crazy.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on May 13, 2016, 09:35:00 AM
Yikes, the 1st quarter moon and Friday the 13th!  Be sure to slather on extra zinc oxide if going out tonight.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on May 13, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
Yikes, the 1st quarter moon and Friday the 13th!  Be sure to slather on extra zinc oxide if going out tonight.
Thank you!!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: FlatEarther1 on May 16, 2016, 09:52:42 AM
Hey I am new to this society but I wish to learn as much as I can where should I go
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 16, 2016, 09:58:42 AM
Hey I am new to this society but I wish to learn as much as I can where should I go

To learn to use punctuation, for a starts? 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: disputeone on May 27, 2016, 01:37:29 AM
Hey I am new to this society but I wish to learn as much as I can where should I go

To learn to use punctuation, for a starts? 

This is why theres only one real flat earther on this forum, and about four guys who get paid to pretend they believe the earth is flat.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Empirical on June 02, 2016, 03:59:28 PM
Yikes, the 1st quarter moon and Friday the 13th!  Be sure to slather on extra zinc oxide if going out tonight.
Thank you!!
Friday the 13th also releases dangerous radiation!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on June 02, 2016, 04:08:40 PM
Yikes, the 1st quarter moon and Friday the 13th!  Be sure to slather on extra zinc oxide if going out tonight.
Thank you!!
Friday the 13th also releases dangerous radiation!

This is true. I covered my windows with tin foil that night, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Empirical on June 05, 2016, 01:13:57 AM
Well it explains why the day is bad luck.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on June 19, 2016, 12:29:14 PM
June summer solstice full moon is rare and unpredictable...and whose light will be upon those who would venture outdoors during the event.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on June 19, 2016, 12:33:52 PM
June summer solstice full moon is rare and unpredictable...and whose light will be upon those who would venture outdoors during the event.

I will be sure to wear my polarized glasses, and slather on the zinc oxide if I go out tomorrow night!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 19, 2016, 04:29:22 PM
June summer solstice full moon is rare and unpredictable...and whose light will be upon those who would venture outdoors during the event.

This is not much harder to predict than any other full moon. According to this website (http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/june-solstice-full-moon-in-2016), the last full moon on the same GMT day as the June solstice was 1967, almost 50 years ago, and the next will be in 2062. If, by same day, you mean both events occur within 24 hours of each other - that is, it's the same day in at least one time zone - then it's more common, occurring about once every 19 years. Whether once in 19 years (or even once every 50) is "rare" or not depends, of course, on your definition of "rare"[nb]Transits of Venus, for instance, usually occur twice about every 143 years; the reappearance of Halley's Comet is once about every 76 years.[/nb]; at any rate, this is expected.

Regardless, for the superstitious types that don't like being out under the full moon, rejoice! Since the full moon is always on the opposite side of the ecliptic as the Sun, the Moon will be up the shortest amount of time of the entire year on this night while full (in the northern hemisphere)![nb]For you poor bastards south of the equator, it will be up the longest of any full moon this year, but then, it's not a summer solstice for you, so that mystical property, whatever it is, will be absent.[/nb]

Everyone needs to keep calm and carry on.
 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on June 19, 2016, 04:37:53 PM
He didn't mean it's hard to predict when it will occur, lol.

The strawberry moon might be more dangerous than other moons.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Woody on June 19, 2016, 04:40:53 PM
He didn't mean it's hard to predict when it will occur, lol.

The strawberry moon might be more dangerous than other moons.

A strawberry moon can not be bad since strawberries are a delicious treat.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on June 19, 2016, 05:46:18 PM
June summer solstice full moon is rare and unpredictable...

He didn't mean it's hard to predict when it will occur, lol.

The strawberry moon might be more dangerous than other moons.

"... is rare and unpredictable..." hmmm...

Maybe "... is rare and has unpredictable effects..." is what he meant to say. Context suggests otherwise, but that could be offered as an interpretation when pressed, I suppose. One of the hallmarks of mysticism is trying to remain vague enough that alternative meanings can be justified when a more obvious one turns out to be wrong.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lucas Dunn on June 20, 2016, 03:38:24 PM
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Please Help to get more Proof
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on June 20, 2016, 03:39:17 PM
He didn't mean it's hard to predict when it will occur, lol.

The strawberry moon might be more dangerous than other moons.

A strawberry moon can not be bad since strawberries are a delicious treat.

That's what they want you to think  >:(
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 21, 2016, 12:35:30 PM
He didn't mean it's hard to predict when it will occur, lol.

The strawberry moon might be more dangerous than other moons.

A strawberry moon can not be bad since strawberries are a delicious treat.

That's what they want you to think  >:(


Damn "they" !
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on September 15, 2016, 07:19:42 PM
On the verge of a full moon. Will have to see if additional hydration is recommended during the event?  May be adding water or maybe something with electrolytes to the preparation list...just in case it's needed, as they say.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on October 16, 2016, 03:52:53 PM
Supermoon tonight! WEAR YOUR GOGGLES.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on October 16, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
On the verge of a full moon. Will have to see if additional hydration is recommended during the event?  May be adding water or maybe something with electrolytes to the preparation list...just in case it's needed, as they say.

Beware of Di-Hydrogen Monoxide !
Title: Re: Moonlight: Preparation & Precautions
Post by: Nightsky on November 02, 2016, 12:39:32 PM
Moonlight: Preparation & Precautions


Of course, the natural response when presented with such compelling evidence is to ask how one can avoid the risks posed by Lunar rays. Unfortunately, the Moon is an almost ever-present feature of our lives, and it emits its injurious beams for a considerable period almost every twenty-four hours.


The most important step, therefore, is to be aware of when such emissions are most likely to take place. Thankfully the Moon's emanations are regular, and therefore with sufficient research can be predicted, so that one can take steps to avoid it when it is most dangerous. Depending on your location, the apparent state of the Lunar cycle may vary, so we advise that you conduct independent, Zetetically rigorous research, preferably through remote means such as video cameras or specialized means of filtrating and projecting its light. You will soon record a cycle lasting approximately nine and-a-half days, punctuated by varying but regular degrees of Lunar emissions.


As the above research indicates that the harmful effects of the Moon correspond with the quantity of Moonlight to which one is exposed, the Full Moon is obviously particularly dangerous, as indeed are the Waxing and Waning Gibbous. Exposure to Moonlight during these periods should be kept to a bare minimum, and ideally should be limited to situations where contact is either necessary or unavoidable. The Waxing and Waning Crescent are obviously less dangerous, but nevertheless it is advised that one should not be foolhardy, as the limited amount of light produced by the Moon during these periods will be more than offset by any extensive exposure.


During the standard Lunar cycle, keeping regular hours and remaining indoors after dark should be enough to prevent illness in the majority of cases. However, many people may find themselves in situations where they are forced to expose themselves to Moonlight. In such cases, noted Zetetic James MacIntyre has the following advice:


When viewing the Moon, or expecting to face exposure to the Moon, please try to follow these procedures:

  • Wear sunglasses - Dark glasses may protect your eyes, which are particularly sensitive, from Moon rays which can damage your eyes.
  • Cover any exposed skin - Cases of Moonlight exposure to bare skin can be particularly severe. Always wear long sleeves, gloves and a hat. A balaclava or thick scarf can protect your nose, mouth, cheeks and ears from the Moon.


He also advises that even when one is inside, one should ensure that your shelter is adequately sealed and protected:


  • Protect your home - Moonlight can seep in through uncovered windows, doors and skylights. Make sure that you have thick curtains, or, better still, shutters on major windows which are likely to face the Moon. You may find it useful to tape reflective material, such as aluminium foil (shiny side out) on gaps in your home, or even on the windows themselves, in order to improve Moon-protection further.


Finally, one should take precautions to ensure the safety of any other biological life for which you may be responsible:


  • Make sure your pets are safe - The Moon can hurt animals just as much as humans. Consider bringing your pets indoors during the evening, or if you intend to let them roam the night, you may want to wrap them up in protective clothing just as you did with yourself!
  • Watch out for plants - Moonlight can putrefy many varieties of unsuspecting garden plant. Most flowers close their petals at night in order to protect them from Moon rays, but during the Super-harvest Moon this may not be enough. You may want to cover even self-defending flowers and other plants with aluminium foil or another protective material.


Though such measures should prove sufficent during the standard Lunar cycle, there are also occasional spikes in Lunar radiance, notably events such as the Super Moon (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=46826.0) and Super Harvest Moon (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42785.0). Though rare, during these events the Moon's intensity is noticeably greater, and thus its effects are especially powerful. During these crises, MacIntyre suggests that "it may be safer to stay indoors entirely and avoid exposure" (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=42785.msg1060617#msg1060617). Indeed, some have even suggested that such events may cause an increase in the number of natural disasters here on Earth (http://www.astropro.com/features/articles/supermoon/). Accordingly, it may best to store or stockpile the following items:


  • Several days worth of clean water, uncontaminated by Lunar rays. Filling spare bottles, baths and sinks before hand is a useful strategy.
  • Proteinous tinned food and vegetables, along with any other non-perishables.
  • A portable gas stove with plenty of spare gas cannisters.
  • A fully-equipped first-aid kit.
  • An emergency heat source, and sufficient blankets and other insulative materials.
  • At least two high-quality flashlights, with plenty of spare batteries. If disaster strikes, you may be without electricity, and (for obvious reasons) you will be unable to navigate by Moonlight - indeed you should be sealed off in complete darkness. Make sure to have several high-quality flashlights that will run efficiently and reliably.
  • At least one multi-tool, and ideally a decent knife and perhaps a folding saw and hatchet.
  • Depending on the situation, it may be advisable to stock several firearms and plenty of ammunition, depending on local laws. Natural disasters often bring out the worst in some people, and under the deleterious influence of a Super (Harvest) Moon it could be even worse. Do not seek violence, but be prepared to defend you and your family from the exposed.


So that our members are aware of such crises, we will endeavour to keep an updated list of immanent Super Moon events, detailing the date, duration and (when possible) intensity of these spikes in Lunar activity.

Are you for real? Are you to be taken seriously or are you just here for laughs?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on November 02, 2016, 01:48:51 PM
Are you being serious?  Wilmore posted that 5 years ago, and you think the conspiracy has not taken him out yet? 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 09, 2016, 09:07:00 AM
Beware the Beaver Moon!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on November 09, 2016, 02:00:08 PM
He didn't mean it's hard to predict when it will occur, lol.

The strawberry moon might be more dangerous than other moons.

A strawberry moon can not be bad since strawberries are a delicious treat.

That's what they want you to think  >:(

Yes certainly "strawberries are a delicious treat" and the the cream protects from those dangerous rays. Wearing 8) helps too. 8)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 09, 2016, 02:03:05 PM
Strawberry moon is over, rabinoz. The deadly Beaver Moon is nearly upon us.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: andruszkow on November 09, 2016, 02:23:32 PM
I do wonder how FET explains this though:

(http://i.imgur.com/YTjVe6B.jpg)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 09, 2016, 02:26:14 PM
Sometimes the moon is closer, sometimes it's farther away.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RocksEverywhere on November 09, 2016, 03:25:35 PM
Sometimes the moon is closer, sometimes it's farther away.
It's almost like people can make sense here sometimes.

Mind = blown
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on November 09, 2016, 04:28:26 PM
Sometimes the moon is closer, sometimes it's farther away.
Eureka! I finally understand what the Wiki means by:
Quote
The Phases of the Moon
The lunar phases vary cyclically according to the changing geometry of the Moon and Sun, which are constantly wobbling up and down and exchange altitudes as they rotate around the North Pole.

When the moon is below the sun's altitude the moon is dark and a New Moon occurs.

When the moon is above the altitude of the sun the moon is fully lit and a Full Moon occurs.

So according to the  ::) highest authority in the land  ::) when the moon is at its highest point "a Full Moon occurs".

So these predictions of a very large full moon on Nov 14 must be wrong, on that date, the moon is only about 363,400 km away.
"The Wiki" could  ;D NEVER be wrong, no never  ;D! Maybe it's a very large New Moon!

So according to "the Wiki" the next Full Moon must be around Nov 28, when the moon will be about 405,500 km away, about as far as it gets.

Now, should anyone doubt these distances, I invite them to measure the distance to the moon on those dates and come back with actual measurements.

Of course, it will be easy to check if "the Wiki" is right about
         "When the moon is below the sun's altitude the moon is dark and a New Moon occurs" and
         "When the moon is above the altitude of the sun the moon is fully lit and a Full Moon occurs".
Just leave you "Wiki", "ENaG", etc and poke your head outside and have a look on Nov 14 and Nov 28.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 09, 2016, 04:32:53 PM
Settle down, rab. People have been complaining about the wiki forever.

Look, sometimes a beaver makes the moon super dangerious, OK?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on November 09, 2016, 04:49:47 PM
Good thing we have idiots like rabinoz to constantly insist that the wiki needs to be changed.  We would have never known. 

Seriously, if you think something needs to be changed, then type up a correction and submit it to, well, anyone.  If we think you have a better explanation than the current wiki, then we will change it.  If you are unwilling to even do this, then shut the f*ck up about it.  You are a broken record repeating the same crap over and over again. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on November 09, 2016, 09:01:07 PM
Good thing we have idiots like rabinoz to constantly insist that the wiki needs to be changed.  We would have never known. 

Seriously, if you think something needs to be changed, then type up a correction and submit it to, well, anyone.  If we think you have a better explanation than the current wiki, then we will change it.  If you are unwilling to even do this, then shut the f*ck up about it.  You are a broken record repeating the same crap over and over again.
::)  And you don't have better explanations for lunar phases?  ::)

All I can do is point out the errors, I can hardly be expected to find impossible solutions.

Not my problem! Even Ski acknowledge's that Voliva's "calcuation" of 3,000 miles and and Rowbotham's "calcuation" of 700 mile's for the height of the sun "of Rev. Voliva and Dr. Rowbotham can't possibly be correct".
See
Why? Are you talking about the distances involved? Because I'd agree that the classical numbers of Rev. Voliva and Dr. Rowbotham can't possibly be correct.

Also on the "perspective" explanation of sunsets:
The "squishing" of the sun at the horizon is just Rowbotham's perspective at play. I definitely agree that perspective is insufficient to account for the sunset, however, if that is your argument.

The maintenance of the accuracy of "the Wiki" has nothing to do with me, but having obvious fallacies in it makes the Flat Earth look unnecessarily ridiculous. But, don't ask me for better explanations.

As I said, not my problem!

I do have a very simple explanation for all these thing, but a lot of people seem too blinkered to see it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Twerp on November 10, 2016, 12:20:21 AM
Good thing we have idiots like rabinoz to constantly insist that the wiki needs to be changed.  We would have never known. 

Seriously, if you think something needs to be changed, then type up a correction and submit it to, well, anyone.  If we think you have a better explanation than the current wiki, then we will change it.  If you are unwilling to even do this, then shut the f*ck up about it.  You are a broken record repeating the same crap over and over again.

I'm not Rab but I would like to submit a suggestion that we update the wiki to state that the earth is globular. Please consider this my submission.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on November 13, 2016, 03:10:14 PM
Please use extreme caution when viewing the deadly Beaver Moon.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Lonegranger on January 22, 2017, 11:22:09 PM
Please use extreme caution when viewing the deadly Beaver Moon.

Or even viewing beavers by moonlight....can be very dangerous.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Gumby on January 23, 2017, 10:53:01 AM
Please use extreme caution when viewing the deadly Beaver Moon.

Or even viewing beavers by moonlight....can be very dangerous.

To be safe you need to hide inside a crate.

It's a known fact that the moon light has a particular wavelenght that causes several afflictions.
I recommend a diet of water boiled for 12 minutes left to cool in dark place. This water will block the moonlight in your organism. If water catches moonlight must be boiled again. 

The harmfull wavelength is produced by decomposing cheese on the moon surface.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on February 09, 2017, 03:12:13 PM
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/comet-eclipse-and-full-moon-light-friday-night-180962086/

Quote
This time of year, cabin fever often starts to set in across much of North America as the late days of winter set in. But on Friday, there’s a great excuse—actually several excuses—for venturing outdoors. That’s because there will be a penumbral eclipse, a full moon and a fly-by of an emerald green comet all on the same night.

The unusual celestial triple play begins early Friday evening, reports Weather.com. Starting at 5:34 P.M. eastern time, people along the east coast will be able to observe a penumbral lunar eclipse, when the sun, moon and earth all align. Unlike a total eclipse, in which the Earth casts a cone-shaped shadow, or umbra, that blacks out the moon, the effect of a penumbral eclipse is more subtle, reports Deborah Byrd at EarthSky.com. The face of the moon will slowly darken several shades over time as it passes through the penumbra, the more diffuse area on the edge of the shadow cone.

According to Bruce McClure at EarthSky.com, the ideal spots to view this particular eclipse are in Europe, Africa, Greenland and Iceland and that the entire eclipse will last four hours and 20 minutes. In North America, the period of greatest eclipse will take place at 7:44 P.M. local time.
...
Quote
The second cosmic event taking place on Friday is the Full “Snow” Moon, which lights up the sky every February. Doyle Rice at USA Today explains that the name was given to the moon by Native Americans as part of a system used to keep track of the seasons. He reports that the name Snow Moon is pretty apt, since on average February is the snowiest month in the United States. There’s also an alternate name, according to The Old Farmer’s Almanac; it's also called the Full Hunger Moon because tough weather made hunting difficult during this time of year.

Anyone not too tuckered out by watching the eclipse can try and wait up (or get up early) for the third event, a flyby of comet Comet 45P/Honda-Mrkos-Pajdušáková—the so-called New Year Comet. Weather.com reports that the comet will be visible with binoculars in the predawn hours when it passes through the constellation Hercules.

Please, if you're out there Friday night watching the sky, USE PROTECTION.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on March 11, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
Worm moon approaching. Cover open soil to protect them and then take proper measures for humans. 

They rely on us and we them.

All should be clear by Monday.

 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on April 06, 2017, 11:55:26 PM
OMG I just read this. Now I feel like all the times I have held my kid up high to look at the moon, has actually been child abuse  ??? :'(
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Twerp on April 07, 2017, 12:12:37 AM
OMG I just read this. Now I feel like all the times I have held my kid up high to look at the moon, has actually been child abuse  ??? :'(

That is bad! It may not affect them right away but eventually they will turn on you! Probably in their teens.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: AristotleWasWrong on June 01, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
Has anyone ever noticed that eggs cracked on the sidewalk can boil in the heat? I have. The moon most certainly has the same effect except on the human brain. I mean, Hemmingway's records indicate that the moon affected fish strangely, and if it affected fish, it definitely affects humans. Why else would werewolves only come out during the moon light?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: the honest zealot on June 02, 2017, 11:27:21 AM
I agree 100%. I believe that the basic lunar radiation can almost certainly have a lycanthropic effect on those more susceptible to those type things. It would also stand to reason that the reasons werewolves are affected by silver is because the specific density of silver allows it to reflect lunar radiation. This causes an inverse radiation to bounce back at the subject.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: neutrino on June 25, 2017, 11:15:44 AM
Why this nonsense is not in complete nonsense, but pinned here? Holy crap! Is this forum is degraded so much?

Open thinkers, what a hell?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Twerp on June 25, 2017, 01:01:32 PM
Good thing we have idiots like rabinoz to constantly insist that the wiki needs to be changed.  We would have never known. 

Seriously, if you think something needs to be changed, then type up a correction and submit it to, well, anyone.  If we think you have a better explanation than the current wiki, then we will change it.  If you are unwilling to even do this, then shut the f*ck up about it.  You are a broken record repeating the same crap over and over again.

I'm not Rab but I would like to submit a suggestion that we update the wiki to state that the earth is globular. Please consider this my submission.

Just thought maybe this suggestion got lost in all the talk of werewolves and moonlight frying brains like eggs on a hot sidewalk.

Well, what do we think?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Sentinel on June 25, 2017, 01:17:28 PM
Good thing we have idiots like rabinoz to constantly insist that the wiki needs to be changed.  We would have never known. 

Seriously, if you think something needs to be changed, then type up a correction and submit it to, well, anyone.  If we think you have a better explanation than the current wiki, then we will change it.  If you are unwilling to even do this, then shut the f*ck up about it.  You are a broken record repeating the same crap over and over again.


I'm not Rab but I would like to submit a suggestion that we update the wiki to state that the earth is globular. Please consider this my submission.

Just thought maybe this suggestion got lost in all the talk of werewolves and moonlight frying brains like eggs on a hot sidewalk.

Well, what do we think?

Dunno, but I happen to have a feeling that the Wiki would make a lot more sense now when your submission about a globular earth is to be granted.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on August 19, 2017, 11:33:19 AM
Monday will mark an all time high of people looking towards the moon. Expect significant rises in crime, sickness, and accidents. Always make sure to wear suitable protection while viewing the moon.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Prof. John Frink on August 19, 2017, 11:56:12 AM
With the moon getting directly in front of the sun on Monday and being made of cheese there is a very high risk of it melting. Trust me you do NOT want melted cheese in your eyes. Wear protection people.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on August 19, 2017, 12:33:18 PM
This is a serious matter, and I won't have the blindness of people who misunderstand your post to take this as jest on my hands. Please do not post here unless you are prepared to give this subject the seriousness it deserves..
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on August 20, 2017, 06:06:43 PM
I would think that staring at the black sun would cause far more problems than staring at a new moon. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on August 22, 2017, 05:10:50 AM
Monday will mark an all time high of people looking towards the moon. Expect significant rises in crime, sickness, and accidents. Always make sure to wear suitable protection while viewing the moon.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSxUpQU90rWcOTM-VnreouWbxo8_3tD1YIurTYtnxAbXotqP7XRnFqSIbUD)

I guess he didn't get the memo
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on August 22, 2017, 12:55:43 PM
Now we know why our president appears to be mad - because he is.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ItsRoundIPromise on September 13, 2017, 10:17:26 AM
Lord Wilmore, now that I understand that you are just having a little fun by suckering people in with an elaborate troll, would you be willing to disclose how long you intend to keep these people duped?  Is there a point where you come clean and acknowledge that you're just messing with them, and then leave them to reconcile that they've been buying a giant load of crap for literally years?

You could let me know in a private message if you're not ready for the society as a whole to see it; I will absolutely keep your confidence. 

While I sometimes enjoy messing with friends once in awhile, I've never attempted a prank of this scope.  The work and the time you've invested is impressive.  I can't help but wonder if you've considered the damage being done to the people you're duping for your own amusement, or if you feel that they just would have been taken by some other crap anyway. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on September 13, 2017, 10:33:41 AM
Not everybody that believes something different from you is an asshole trying to fuck with people.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 13, 2017, 10:36:48 AM
Lord Wilmore, now that I understand that you are just having a little fun by suckering people in with an elaborate troll, would you be willing to disclose how long you intend to keep these people duped?  Is there a point where you come clean and acknowledge that you're just messing with them, and then leave them to reconcile that they've been buying a giant load of crap for literally years?

You could let me know in a private message if you're not ready for the society as a whole to see it; I will absolutely keep your confidence. 

While I sometimes enjoy messing with friends once in awhile, I've never attempted a prank of this scope.  The work and the time you've invested is impressive.  I can't help but wonder if you've considered the damage being done to the people you're duping for your own amusement, or if you feel that they just would have been taken by some other crap anyway. 

Why are you so cynical?  Has it ever occured to you that people might actually care?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ItsRoundIPromise on September 13, 2017, 10:57:55 AM
Not everybody that believes something different from you is an asshole trying to fuck with people.
I understand this entirely, and I was willing to accept that you (the leadership of the society in this case) legitimately believed the Earth was flat.

However, when I read this thread on "dangers of moonlight" that literally counseled people to wear sunglasses when viewing the moon, and to cover all exposed skin, going so far as to advise a balaclava or scarf to cover the face of the skin and then to further block your home from moonlight "seeping in", it is obvious to any rational person that it's not genuine.  It's too far over the top. 

I'm sorry if I'm ruining your fun, but it's been literally years.  Surely you're going to give up the joke at some point, right?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on September 14, 2017, 11:36:42 AM
I recommend wearing a welding hood while looking at the moon. It's the only way.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on September 14, 2017, 01:31:01 PM
Not everybody that believes something different from you is an asshole trying to fuck with people.
Poe's law - how can you tell the difference?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on September 14, 2017, 01:34:59 PM
I recommend wearing a welding hood while looking at the moon. It's the only way.

Would a tinfoil hat be a good addition to the welding hood ?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: zork on September 14, 2017, 01:42:47 PM
Would a tinfoil hat be a good addition to the welding hood ?
Sure. You can start your own original fashion line with this. I didn't find any welding hoods with tin foil hats on my first search.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Twerp on September 14, 2017, 01:44:41 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/22/30/47/223047b0c8d10e3de2aea3fee55cf729--tin-foil-hat-politics.jpg)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on September 14, 2017, 07:22:23 PM
I think in addition to a certificate and a coin for becoming a member of the flat earth society, you guys should throw in that tin foil hat with welding visor. I think you would get a lot more people sign up

I was also thinking you could do something like the infamous villain Ned Kelly wore back in the day. I believe his armour was not only to protect from bullets but the moonlight as well

(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/11/16/1225798/343910-armour-worn-by-ned-kelly.jpg)

Throw in the gun as well for added protection against werewolves and crazy lunatics deranged from the effects of the moonlight
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on September 17, 2017, 04:23:54 AM
Not everybody that believes something different from you is an asshole trying to fuck with people.
Poe's law - how can you tell the difference?
All the more reason to not act.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ausGeoff on October 18, 2017, 08:42:38 PM
I agree that the behaviours of certain fishes—such as flounder etc—can be affected by moonlight, particularly a full moon—or its absence.  Any nighttime light source starts a natural food-chain reaction by attracting a concentration of small microscopic animals known as plankton.  Bait fish such as shad and minnows are drawn to the light to feed on the plankton, and then larger game fish move in to feed on the bait fish.  Fishing boat running lights and dockside floodlighting will also have the same effect.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Nightsky on November 11, 2017, 04:36:59 AM
Monday will mark an all time high of people looking towards the moon. Expect significant rises in crime, sickness, and accidents. Always make sure to wear suitable protection while viewing the moon.

I’m assuming you have corroborated evidence to support your claim. I imagine you also have data into the nature of the light from the moon that causes the side effects that you claim.
From your standpoint what are the main differences between the moonlight photons and those given off by the sun? Where can we find your data on this subject?

What is the energy source that produces your moonlight photons?

Why do you appear to reject convention scientific wisdom that considers moonlight to be no more than reflected sunlight.
Thank you
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: DhanviMarrapu on November 14, 2017, 07:44:48 AM
Has anyone ever noticed that eggs cracked on the sidewalk can boil in the heat? I have. The moon most certainly has the same effect except on the human brain. I mean, Hemmingway's records indicate that the moon affected fish strangely, and if it affected fish, it definitely affects humans. Why else would werewolves only come out during the moon light?

fish act strangely because they are sleeping. You act strangely when you sleep... just liike your mom.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on November 14, 2017, 08:57:02 AM
Monday will mark an all time high of people looking towards the moon. Expect significant rises in crime, sickness, and accidents. Always make sure to wear suitable protection while viewing the moon.

I’m assuming you have corroborated evidence to support your claim. I imagine you also have data into the nature of the light from the moon that causes the side effects that you claim.
From your standpoint what are the main differences between the moonlight photons and those given off by the sun? Where can we find your data on this subject?

What is the energy source that produces your moonlight photons?

Why do you appear to reject convention scientific wisdom that considers moonlight to be no more than reflected sunlight.
Thank you
Of course. You can find the relevant threads in the forums. However, in short, many life forms have been shown to have their behavior and health altered by moonlight. It also is a well known fact from antiquity that fish rots when left out in the moon.

Here are some relevant citations:
Madness and Crime: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/644065
Spoiling of Food: http://idnc.library.illinois.edu/cgi-bin/illinois?a=d&d=TUC19140217.2.21
Increase Germ Activity: http://idnc.library.illinois.edu/cgi-bin/illinois?a=d&d=TUC19140217.2.21&srpos=10&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN-moonlight+dangerous------


Current research (performed mainly by the now Dr. Ichi) suggests that the moons light is bioluminescent due to its polarized nature.

You can also travel to any hospital or health care facility and ask them if the crazies come out at the full moon. I think the response from these educated fellows will indeed surprise you!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: MonkeyWrench on November 15, 2017, 12:38:17 PM
Monday will mark an all time high of people looking towards the moon. Expect significant rises in crime, sickness, and accidents. Always make sure to wear suitable protection while viewing the moon.
Why do you appear to reject convention scientific wisdom that considers moonlight to be no more than reflected sunlight.
Thank you

You didn't

I usually don't get down in the fray, butt!!! Anybody else get a mental replay of Obi Wan saying "who is more foolish...?"

You seriously played the conventional wisdom card here?

Bwahahahaahaha!!!!!!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on November 15, 2017, 01:09:39 PM
Why do you appear to reject convention scientific wisdom that considers moonlight to be no more than reflected sunlight.
Thank you

Reflected sunlight has the same dangers of regular sunlight. You post alludes that because it is 'reflected' it is harmless.

I give you a task then. Hold up a mirror facing the sun. Then look at the mirror that has the sun on it. It should be harmless because you are only looking at the reflected sunlight, not the actual sunlight right?

I once thought as you did but even science has shown that the light from the moon is polarised to an extent that even dung beetles can make use of it to walk in a straight line.


Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Alpha2Omega on November 24, 2017, 10:15:06 AM
Why do you appear to reject convention scientific wisdom that considers moonlight to be no more than reflected sunlight.
Thank you

Reflected sunlight has the same dangers of regular sunlight. You post alludes that because it is 'reflected' it is harmless.

I give you a task then. Hold up a mirror facing the sun. Then look at the mirror that has the sun on it. It should be harmless because you are only looking at the reflected sunlight, not the actual sunlight right?

The moon isn't a mirror, it's a diffuse reflector (it scatters light falling on it), and not a very efficient one at that since it absorbs most of the incident light and reflects only about 20% of it. Specular reflections (as from a mirror, which does not scatter the light) are not a useful comparison. A more meaningful test would be to hold out a flat piece of paper that reflects something like 20% of the light falling on it.

Direct sunlight (or reflections of the sun off a mirror) can be harmful to our eyes because they are not suited to handle light as intense as nearly full-strength sunlight. Extended exposure to nearly full-strength sunlight can also damage skin. Since moonlight is no brighter than about 0.00025% as bright as full sunlight, this is not a problem.

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I once thought as you did but even science has shown that the light from the moon is polarised to an extent that even dung beetles can make use of it to walk in a straight line.

So? Even if true, this does not suggest that slightly-polarized reflected sunlight is dangerous; it apparently even can be useful to certain organisms. If polarization of reflected sunlight were a problem, we'd be in a lot of trouble since reflections of unpolarized light, even reflections of sunlight from surfaces around us all day, are somewhat polarized in most cases. This is why polarized sunglasses help reduce glare. If you are fearful of the dangers of moonlight, you should be even more afraid of sunlight reflected from nearly everything around you, since it's much brighter than moonlight.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Theo Theardrun on November 26, 2017, 02:26:43 AM
So, do you guys reject the entirety of the scientific process, or just parts that make it harder to believe in a deity and/or self-importance? Your sun is tiny and revolves around you(Narcissus would be proud), gravity doesn't exist(because Newton had silly hair and silly haired people can't be trusted), the world has a flat surface accepting that people could fall off or at the very least look over(Neither thing has been reported and verified, or are we in a "Truman Show"-esque dome?!), there are werewolves(Do you believe in Santa too?), you get attacked by insanity causing moon beams(Possibly why you believe what you believe. Does the sun cause insanity too?), and any science related to any of these topics has not backed any of this up(Every link throughout this forum I clicked on attempting to be scientific was not, or the science that has been done about it was peer reviewed and replicated to find different conclusions than the people here claim they made. I couldn't find any credible research in support of any of your guys' claims in my own research endeavors either).

And this is just the tip of your crazy-ass icebergs I'm sure...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ER22 on November 26, 2017, 12:14:15 PM
Wow, that was interesting.
I am not gonna comment on the dangers of moon light.

Gotta ask (as I believe others have)
How does this have anything to do with a flat earth?

Flat or round, both have a moon.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on November 26, 2017, 05:22:42 PM
Wow, that was interesting.
I am not gonna comment on the dangers of moon light.

Gotta ask (as I believe others have)
How does this have anything to do with a flat earth?

Flat or round, both have a moon.

Some people believe the moon is only a holographic projection
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Copper Knickers on November 28, 2017, 01:39:33 AM
Wow, that was interesting.
I am not gonna comment on the dangers of moon light.

Gotta ask (as I believe others have)
How does this have anything to do with a flat earth?

Flat or round, both have a moon.

Moonlight being reflected sunlight poses problems for many flat-earth models. It can be hard to explain the moon phases, for example. However, if the moon's light were somehow different to sunlight this would lend credence to the idea of the moon being self-illuminating, which would in turn eliminate some of the aforesaid problems.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 02, 2017, 07:48:45 AM
Beware the supermoon December 3rd!

WEAR YOUR WELDING HELMETS ALL NIGHT, PEOPLE.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on December 02, 2017, 02:58:11 PM
Do I still need to wear it when I'm in bed sleeping and all windows to the house are covered? I mean, just to be sure and all....
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 02, 2017, 03:09:21 PM
Yes! Just to be on the safe side, you may need to go ahead and start wearing it now. The moonlight is blinding.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on December 02, 2017, 03:13:45 PM
Thanks for heads up SCG.  I will pass the word along to my friend, the hospital ER administrator, but I expect she is all set to pay a bit of overtime for the influx of activity with people who didn't prepare.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on December 02, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
I have heard that if you coat all the walls and windows in your bedroom with foil, it may be safe to remove your eye protection for short to moderate periods of time.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RocketSauce on December 03, 2017, 09:52:17 AM
Beware the supermoon December 3rd!

WEAR YOUR WELDING HELMETS ALL NIGHT, PEOPLE.

Please give an actual example of how How Super moons are predicted using Flat Earth math.... show your work! Thank you
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Bullwinkle on December 03, 2017, 10:14:01 AM
Super Moon . . .

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If the moon is just on the horizon, it may look a lot bigger, but that's an illusion. Scientists call it the "moon illusion" (https://www.space.com/38940-supermoon-facts.html) and it may be because your brain compares it to nearby objects, or because your brain believes objects on the horizon are larger than objects in the sky.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: EvolvedMantisShrimp on December 25, 2017, 07:20:57 AM
Wow, that was interesting.
I am not gonna comment on the dangers of moon light.

Gotta ask (as I believe others have)
How does this have anything to do with a flat earth?

Flat or round, both have a moon.

The Moon is a real problem for Flat Earthers. Why? Because it's easy to observe, Ned's no special equipment or training to measure and blows a massive hole in Flat Earth Hypothesis.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on December 30, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
The FES predicts supermoon on 1.1.18.  This is potentially a bright one and titled "wolf moon".  Beware/Prepare.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on December 30, 2017, 07:09:26 PM
The FES predicts supermoon on 1.1.18.  This is potentially a bright one and titled "wolf moon".  Beware/Prepare.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D The FES predicts a supermoon and how is that done? tea-leaves of bats droppings? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I do hope you have plenty of tin-foil hats and correctly polarised (42° I think) NS particle excluding dark glasses in stock - John Davis can advise here.

All to protect against sunlight reduced in intensity by a factor of about 400,000 times.
The biggest danger if venturing out wearing said polarised NS particle excluding dark glasses is walking on an upturned rake, piercing you foot and clobbering your tin-foil hat protected head.

Tetanus and rabies shots may be a good precaution too in case of were-wolf attacks and said up-turned rakes.

I do hope that this helps someone avaoid a nasty injury.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ER22 on January 03, 2018, 04:15:13 PM
The FES predicts supermoon on 1.1.18.  This is potentially a bright one and titled "wolf moon".  Beware/Prepare.

Aha ha ha,
FES predicts?
You are probably using an app on your phone based on the globe earth.
If you can predict full moon using a flat earth thingy, please present it.

Without using your phone, computer or any other "NASA or Gov't" info
Using only your FE tech
What kinda moon is happening on January 31/18?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on January 03, 2018, 05:45:11 PM
OK, heard back.  That night could very well be a full moon. Beware/Prepare.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on January 03, 2018, 06:52:50 PM
Anyone versed in flat earth will know that January 31 will be our second full looking moon this month (for some reason you roundies call it 'blue' even though its not blue but hey that works for you), be at its closest approach to Earth (you guys call that 'super') AND turn a reddish colour as the lady moonshramps undergo their version of 'time of month'
DUH!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Twerp on January 03, 2018, 06:55:01 PM
Anyone versed in flat earth will know that January 31 will be our second full looking moon this month (for some reason you roundies call it 'blue' even though its not blue but hey that works for you), be at its closest approach to Earth (you guys call that 'super') AND turn a reddish colour as the lady moonshramps undergo their version of 'time of month'
DUH!

That might explain why full moons are so dangerous!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
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Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: dirty feeler on January 07, 2018, 02:38:50 PM
if the earth is flat why my dicc so big?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on January 07, 2018, 02:40:32 PM
Because you are black?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: FlatOutTruth on January 07, 2018, 02:43:06 PM
if the earth is flat why my dicc so big?

Because you don't understand basic science. Please, educate yourself.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: dirty feeler on January 07, 2018, 02:45:16 PM
If the earth flat why my dicc big?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: FlatOutTruth on January 07, 2018, 02:46:03 PM
Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions (http://)



(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-L7N189l6R90/Tx92XVyE5wI/AAAAAAAADFM/bFS8D89P4fI/s400/full-moon.jpg)



Since the dawn of history, the Moon has possessed an almost unequalled hold over the imagination of man, provoking by turns fascination and even worship. Mankind has studied the Moon for thousands of years, and some human depictions of its luminescent features may be over 5,000 years old (http://www.spacetoday.org/SolSys/Earth/OldStarCharts.html).


However for as long as man has revered the Moon, he has also feared it. This topic will chronicle how ancient cultures have perceived the Moon's harmful effects, how modern studies (both scientific and Zetetic) corroborate this view, and how and when to prepare to prepare for periods of high lunar activity and/or exposure. It will also provide a Zetetic Lunar Calendar, and a forecast/record of impending/past spikes in Lunar activity:


1. Moonlight: Historical & Socio-Cultural Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342370#msg1342370)

2. Moonlight: Scientific & Zetetic Perspectives (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342371#msg1342371)

3. Moonlight: Precautions & Preparations (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342372#msg1342372)

4. The Zetetic Lunar Calendar (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342373#msg1342373)

5. The Lunar Forecast (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54468.msg1342894#msg1342894)


Alarmism is not our aim here at the Flat Earth Society, but the threat presented by contact with Lunar rays is significant, and the mainstream media has proven unwilling to alert the public to the evidence for and dangers of this hazard. Our only goal is to make sure that you and your loved ones remain safe.


Any suggestions regarding additions or improvements should be posted in this topic (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=54426.0).

Listen here, damn it. There's no way to account for a flat Earth AND a moon. The moon is obviously fake and a projection.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: dirty feeler on January 07, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
ok so you get moonburns cuz u a lil pussy
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Bullwinkle on January 07, 2018, 04:13:29 PM
ok so you get moonburns cuz u a lil pussy


come on, D1, you are slightly better than this.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: ER22 on January 31, 2018, 03:46:28 PM
OK, heard back.  That night could very well be a full moon. Beware/Prepare.

Good call Gotham,
There was a full moon.
It was red too!
I stood outside and looked at it for as long as I could.
This was at 6:30 AM MST and it was -32C plus wind where I am.
After 15 minutes I went inside.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on January 31, 2018, 04:03:21 PM
Moonlight warnings have resumed. Minimizing exposure is recommended by those in the know including hospital admins and members of the psychiatric community.   
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on January 31, 2018, 05:34:06 PM
OK, heard back.  That night could very well be a full moon. Beware/Prepare.

Good call Gotham,
There was a full moon.
It was red too!
I stood outside and looked at it for as long as I could.
This was at 6:30 AM MST and it was -32C plus wind where I am.
After 15 minutes I went inside.

You think you are lucky because you got to see a pretty red moon

Let me tell you, that is the trap. There are a plethora of examples in nature where prey is lured in by a beautiful appearance or show. If there were no clouds in the sky where I was, I too would most likely fall victim to the beauty of the blood moon. Like a Medusa, I would just stand there like a stone while my life force is sapped away.

Every once in a while the moonshamps go 'on heat'. That is what makes the moon look red. And looking at the moon is like sex for the shramps. At least in some obscure way you aren't a virgin anymore.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Rounde on February 02, 2018, 03:47:58 AM

eat
pie
earth chan is not flat :(  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on February 02, 2018, 04:26:03 AM

eat
pie
earth chan is not flat :(  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
So what?  ;) ;) The flat earth is round!  ;) ;)
Look
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgk7p91e4nr7wg7/Flat%20Earth%20Ice-wall%20map.png?dl=1)
If you're trying to tell us something, it's not working!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on February 02, 2018, 05:32:25 PM

eat
pie
earth chan is not flat :(  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
So what?  ;) ;) The flat earth is round!  ;) ;)
Look
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgk7p91e4nr7wg7/Flat%20Earth%20Ice-wall%20map.png?dl=1)
If you're trying to tell us something, it's not working!
Pie are not squared.
Pie are round
Cornbread are squared.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: gotham on March 30, 2018, 03:56:20 PM
Time to prepare and take whatever precautions are necessary.  A second blue moon for the month is predicted and there is only one day left.

Just be smart...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on March 30, 2018, 05:03:53 PM
I lined my welding helmet with tinfoil. I am more prepared than ever before.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: TheEarthIsRound...JK on April 11, 2018, 06:39:10 PM
The earth is flat because gucci gang lil pump jake paul mans not hot big shaq and... um...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on April 17, 2018, 07:22:20 PM
Pie are not squared.
Pie are round
Incorrect.
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d247b3d62faec80546c4c787c8380d73-c)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Catavenger on May 03, 2018, 08:22:59 PM
The Moon does not exist. It is only a holographic projection made by the C.I.A. (Cat Intelligence  Agency).
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on May 07, 2018, 06:32:47 AM
You sure have a purty mouth. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on May 15, 2018, 03:15:43 AM
You sure have a purty mouth.
But the eyes, just imagine those under a full moon - scary!
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on May 25, 2018, 04:22:18 PM
We do not reject scientific process. We think its poorly defined, and I think you'll agree if you look at the science you learned in your academic career, those who actually "use" science, and what you think is true retrospectively and analytically.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: SirWulfe on June 17, 2018, 06:04:30 AM
Why is this not in CN? It has nothing to do with anything. Can I start a post about the supernatural powers of Goji juice in FE general?


Read Earth Not a Globe. (http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za29.htm#fr_31) This section was linked to in my original post, had you taken the time to read it.


And no.

So... I did. The problem I find with the Zetetic Theory, is that it doesn't follow scientific... Anything. A scientist must create an experiment, with only a definite answer. Ex: Theory: the water in the bucket is wet. Experiment: i will reach my hand in the bucket, then pull it out. If wet, water is wet. If dry, water is not wet. If done outside during a rainstorm, it would warp the results. If done inside, in a dry, controled environment, the results would be conclusive. (Obviously this is a simple example). Now, from what I've read, the Zetetic Theory is "I think the water is wet. Well my hand was wet, and the water sloshed in the bucket, therefore, putting the 'facts in logical order,' i would say water is wet. Now, i observed the water for long stretches. I allowed it to remain inactive. I never touched it, so I couldn't contaminate it with other 'wet.' So, given my evidence, I will say, water is wet." As for moonlight gene. Im pale. Ive been known to burn on a cloudy day. I have never once, not once, been effected by the moon. Seeing as it reflects the suns rays (New Moon phase will prove this) shouldn't I, a pale fellow who burns if looked at funny, burn, or scar, or in some way shape or form, be effected?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 17, 2018, 02:15:55 PM
Pretty much everything you said is incorrect.  Neither the scientific or zetetic methods ever prove anything.  At best, you gather evidence for or against an idea.

The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on June 17, 2018, 03:29:39 PM
Pretty much everything you said is incorrect.  Neither the scientific or zetetic methods ever prove anything.  At best, you gather evidence for or against an idea.

The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
Really?
So how did the "zetetic method" lead to the Universal Acceleration Hypothesis?

So how did the "zetetic method" lead to the hypothesis that the sun, moon, planets and stars circle above the earth?

And so on.

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 19, 2018, 10:52:19 AM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on June 19, 2018, 02:17:53 PM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 19, 2018, 07:08:27 PM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
A properly designed experiment will conclusively confirm or refute any preconceived bias.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on June 19, 2018, 07:23:37 PM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
A properly designed experiment will conclusively confirm or refute any preconceived bias.

Give me an example of a modern experiment done today where the scientist doesn't already think he knows what the outcome is?

If you find one, then is it motivated by knowledge? Or money?

I worked in the medical research industry and the researchers who used to apply for grants have have a drug manufactured by a company on the stock exchange wanted big things out of it. A lot of promises were made, hence, a lot of cherry picking of data and changing of the rules in the middle of the experiment were done as a result.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on June 19, 2018, 09:39:52 PM
Pretty much everything you said is incorrect.  Neither the scientific or zetetic methods ever prove anything.  At best, you gather evidence for or against an idea.

The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
Really?
So how did the "zetetic method" lead to the Universal Acceleration Hypothesis?

So how did the "zetetic method" lead to the hypothesis that the sun, moon, planets and stars circle above the earth?

And so on.

And also :
(1) The Ice Ring on a flat earth
(2) The Horizon on a flat earth
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: John Davis on June 20, 2018, 09:24:00 AM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
A properly designed experiment will conclusively confirm or refute any preconceived bias.
Incorrect. However, giving this to you, do you think properly designed experiments exist in reality and in practice?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 20, 2018, 09:44:58 AM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
A properly designed experiment will conclusively confirm or refute any preconceived bias.

Give me an example of a modern experiment done today where the scientist doesn't already think he knows what the outcome is?
For many years astronomers were convinced that the expansion of the universe was slowing down and might eventually stop and then ultimately collapse upon itself.  In the late 1990s, they made a bunch of measurements with the Hubble space telescope to measure the rate of slowing.  However, they found that the expansion of the universe was not slowing down.  To their complete shock, they found that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating.  This forced the scientific community to rethink everything that they thought that they knew about the universe.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on June 20, 2018, 02:34:43 PM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
A properly designed experiment will conclusively confirm or refute any preconceived bias.

Give me an example of a modern experiment done today where the scientist doesn't already think he knows what the outcome is?
For many years astronomers were convinced that the expansion of the universe was slowing down and might eventually stop and then ultimately collapse upon itself.  In the late 1990s, they made a bunch of measurements with the Hubble space telescope to measure the rate of slowing.  However, they found that the expansion of the universe was not slowing down.  To their complete shock, they found that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating.  This forced the scientific community to rethink everything that they thought that they knew about the universe.

And those twerps walked away with prize money and a Nobel prize for their 'discovery'

I bet with a different set of data or if new data was found their findings could be deemed as rubbish. What do they care? They walked away with money and a medal.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 21, 2018, 08:45:11 PM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
A properly designed experiment will conclusively confirm or refute any preconceived bias.

Give me an example of a modern experiment done today where the scientist doesn't already think he knows what the outcome is?
For many years astronomers were convinced that the expansion of the universe was slowing down and might eventually stop and then ultimately collapse upon itself.  In the late 1990s, they made a bunch of measurements with the Hubble space telescope to measure the rate of slowing.  However, they found that the expansion of the universe was not slowing down.  To their complete shock, they found that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating.  This forced the scientific community to rethink everything that they thought that they knew about the universe.

And those twerps walked away with prize money and a Nobel prize for their 'discovery'
Yes, they won a prize for completely upending the status quo that you claim must not be challenged.

I bet with a different set of data or if new data was found their findings could be deemed as rubbish. What do they care? They walked away with money and a medal.
No kidding.  A different set of data would have led to different results which probably would not have led to a prestigious prize for upending the status quo. 
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on June 21, 2018, 08:57:30 PM
The main difference between the scientific method and the zetetic method is that the scientific method has one start with a supposition and then you work through the other steps in order to provide evidence in favor of it.  With the zetetic method, you don't first have to make an educated guess before moving on to the rest of the steps.  No hypothesis is required to start.
In other words, Zetetics have no idea of what they're trying to prove or how to prove it.

In other words, their investigations are not tainted by any pre conceived bias.
A properly designed experiment will conclusively confirm or refute any preconceived bias.

Give me an example of a modern experiment done today where the scientist doesn't already think he knows what the outcome is?
For many years astronomers were convinced that the expansion of the universe was slowing down and might eventually stop and then ultimately collapse upon itself.  In the late 1990s, they made a bunch of measurements with the Hubble space telescope to measure the rate of slowing.  However, they found that the expansion of the universe was not slowing down.  To their complete shock, they found that the expansion of the universe is actually accelerating.  This forced the scientific community to rethink everything that they thought that they knew about the universe.

And those twerps walked away with prize money and a Nobel prize for their 'discovery'
Yes, they won a prize for completely upending the status quo that you claim must not be challenged.

I bet with a different set of data or if new data was found their findings could be deemed as rubbish. What do they care? They walked away with money and a medal.
No kidding.  A different set of data would have led to different results which probably would not have led to a prestigious prize for upending the status quo.

This is my point. What faith do you have that these scientists worked with every available data point that exists?

Its common for scientists to cherry pick data. What assurances do you have that they didn't do that? Perhaps the data they had told them the expansion was slowing so they go 'well if we take out these few data points and move some decimal places here and there.... Voila!! An expanding universe going faster and faster!!!'
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 21, 2018, 09:10:20 PM
Its common for scientists to cherry pick data. What assurances do you have that they didn't do that? Perhaps the data they had told them the expansion was slowing...
You don't seem to understand that data showing that expansion was slowing is exactly the data that they were expecting, but they found that the data didn't support their preconception.  The accelerating expansion was completely unexpected and had to pass a lot of review before it was finally accepted.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on June 21, 2018, 09:13:57 PM
Its common for scientists to cherry pick data. What assurances do you have that they didn't do that? Perhaps the data they had told them the expansion was slowing...
You don't seem to understand that data showing that expansion was slowing is exactly the data that they were expecting, but they found that the data didn't support their preconception.  The accelerating expansion was completely unexpected and had to pass a lot of review before it was finally accepted.

But coming up with an 'expected' result would not net them a Nobel prize and lots of $$$.

If the corruption is with the data itself than you can repeat the experiment with corrupted data over and over and you will get the same hogwash expanding universe result they came up with

In truth the universe is not expanding. The only thing expanding it seems is the air in between these egg heads ears
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 21, 2018, 09:27:47 PM
Its common for scientists to cherry pick data. What assurances do you have that they didn't do that? Perhaps the data they had told them the expansion was slowing...
You don't seem to understand that data showing that expansion was slowing is exactly the data that they were expecting, but they found that the data didn't support their preconception.  The accelerating expansion was completely unexpected and had to pass a lot of review before it was finally accepted.

But coming up with an 'expected' result would not net them a Nobel prize and lots of $$$.
What makes you think that they set out to win a Nobel prize with their experiment?

If the corruption is with the data itself than you can repeat the experiment with corrupted data over and over and you will get the same hogwash expanding universe result they came up with
That's why the data is checked by many different scientists to see if it's valid or corrupt.

In truth the universe is not expanding. The only thing expanding it seems is the air in between these egg heads ears
If you can't beat 'em, belittle 'em, right?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on June 21, 2018, 09:38:08 PM
Its common for scientists to cherry pick data. What assurances do you have that they didn't do that? Perhaps the data they had told them the expansion was slowing...
You don't seem to understand that data showing that expansion was slowing is exactly the data that they were expecting, but they found that the data didn't support their preconception.  The accelerating expansion was completely unexpected and had to pass a lot of review before it was finally accepted.

But coming up with an 'expected' result would not net them a Nobel prize and lots of $$$.
What makes you think that they set out to win a Nobel prize with their experiment?

Do you think they enjoy repeating the same mind numbing experiments for predicated results over and over again? Sometimes I guess they like to spice it up a little

If the corruption is with the data itself than you can repeat the experiment with corrupted data over and over and you will get the same hogwash expanding universe result they came up with
That's why the data is checked by many different scientists to see if it's valid or corrupt.

Yes and for a time we all thought we knew the universe was going to collapse in on us. Now we all know it will expand forever. In a few decades will will all have a different theory and anyone who says the universe is expanding faster and faster will be laughed at as if they believe in a flat earth. Different or new sets of data will bring about entirely new perspectives and knowledge of the universe. It is ludicrous to put your faith in this 'expanding universe' theory because it will no doubt change later when someone else wants a Nobel prize

In truth the universe is not expanding. The only thing expanding it seems is the air in between these egg heads ears
If you can't beat 'em, belittle 'em, right?

I worked with medical researchers. They are pompous arrogant arseholes who cherry pick and change rules on the fly to keep their funding going indefinitely

Now this topic is about Moonlight and its dangers. Could we try to steer it back to that? The alleged expanding universe and corruption of scientists and their dubious ethics deserves its own thread
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on June 22, 2018, 06:40:51 AM
Its common for scientists to cherry pick data. What assurances do you have that they didn't do that? Perhaps the data they had told them the expansion was slowing...
You don't seem to understand that data showing that expansion was slowing is exactly the data that they were expecting, but they found that the data didn't support their preconception.  The accelerating expansion was completely unexpected and had to pass a lot of review before it was finally accepted.

But coming up with an 'expected' result would not net them a Nobel prize and lots of $$$.
What makes you think that they set out to win a Nobel prize with their experiment?

Do you think they enjoy repeating the same mind numbing experiments for predicated results over and over again? Sometimes I guess they like to spice it up a little
But they weren't "repeating the same mind numbing experiments for predicated results over and over again".  Although the consensus was that the rate of expansion of the universe was slowing, no one knew the rate at which the expansion was slowing, so they decided to measure it. 

If the corruption is with the data itself than you can repeat the experiment with corrupted data over and over and you will get the same hogwash expanding universe result they came up with
That's why the data is checked by many different scientists to see if it's valid or corrupt.

Yes and for a time we all thought we knew the universe was going to collapse in on us. Now we all know it will expand forever.
No, they still don't know that for certain.  They still don't know enough about how dark matter and dark energy affect the expansion of the universe to be able to determine the ultimate fate of the universe.  They can only speculate on the currently available data.

In a few decades will will all have a different theory and anyone who says the universe is expanding faster and faster will be laughed at as if they believe in a flat earth. Different or new sets of data will bring about entirely new perspectives and knowledge of the universe.
You say that like it's a bad thing.  Deepening our understanding of the universe is always a good thing.

It is ludicrous to put your faith in this 'expanding universe' theory because it will no doubt change later when someone else wants a Nobel prize
I don't think that you understand what it takes to win a Nobel prize in physics.

In truth the universe is not expanding. The only thing expanding it seems is the air in between these egg heads ears
If you can't beat 'em, belittle 'em, right?

I worked with medical researchers. They are pompous arrogant arseholes who cherry pick and change rules on the fly to keep their funding going indefinitely
Then it's a good thing that astronomers and astrophysicists have different standards for having their work accepted than medical researchers.

Now this topic is about Moonlight and its dangers. Could we try to steer it back to that? The alleged expanding universe and corruption of scientists and their dubious ethics deserves its own thread
Good point.  Have any of the medical researchers that you worked with ever cherry picked any data or changed enough rules to fund research the dangers of moonlight yet?  Maybe they should.  Sounds like a gold mine to me.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: JRoweSkeptic on July 14, 2018, 05:45:21 PM
For the love of all that is holy why is this pinned?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: RocketSauce on July 14, 2018, 06:51:26 PM
Why is one of the more obvious joke threads making a comeback on my new replies post?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: rabinoz on July 14, 2018, 07:01:09 PM
For the love of all that is holy why is this pinned?
I suggest that you ask  Lord Wilmore, Vice President, Administrator who was responsible for the OP.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on July 15, 2018, 09:21:14 PM
Yesterday (and not for the first time) I have witnessed the lie that is our moon

It was a very thin crescent shape YET when looking at it, you could see the WHOLE moon! The rest of it was just really dark but you could clearly see a full circle

And don't give me any garbage about it being some stupid 'optical illusion' and that our brain fills in the gaps or other such nonsense. If the moon is as it is described in official texts, than I should NOT have seen a full moon when there should only have been the thinnest of crescents

Moon is debunked

Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Copper Knickers on July 16, 2018, 02:44:26 AM
Yesterday (and not for the first time) I have witnessed the lie that is our moon

It was a very thin crescent shape YET when looking at it, you could see the WHOLE moon! The rest of it was just really dark but you could clearly see a full circle

And don't give me any garbage about it being some stupid 'optical illusion' and that our brain fills in the gaps or other such nonsense. If the moon is as it is described in official texts, than I should NOT have seen a full moon when there should only have been the thinnest of crescents

Moon is debunked

This is quite common and is a result of the dark side of the moon being lit by earthlight.

In what sense do you think it 'debunks the moon' ?
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: MouseWalker on July 17, 2018, 02:01:13 PM
Yesterday (and not for the first time) I have witnessed the lie that is our moon

It was a very thin crescent shape YET when looking at it, you could see the WHOLE moon! The rest of it was just really dark but you could clearly see a full circle

And don't give me any garbage about it being some stupid 'optical illusion' and that our brain fills in the gaps or other such nonsense. If the moon is as it is described in official texts, than I should NOT have seen a full moon when there should only have been the thinnest of crescents

Moon is debunked
As I interpret what you have said, you're seeing the moon just after, the new Moon, as opposed to Full moon. This occurred during the day, and the reason why you see the rest of the Moon dimly lit, Is earth shine, the light reflecting off the earth onto the moon.
Earth shine still occurs after dark.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Shifter on July 17, 2018, 03:10:36 PM
Yesterday (and not for the first time) I have witnessed the lie that is our moon

It was a very thin crescent shape YET when looking at it, you could see the WHOLE moon! The rest of it was just really dark but you could clearly see a full circle

And don't give me any garbage about it being some stupid 'optical illusion' and that our brain fills in the gaps or other such nonsense. If the moon is as it is described in official texts, than I should NOT have seen a full moon when there should only have been the thinnest of crescents

Moon is debunked
As I interpret what you have said, you're seeing the moon just after, the new Moon, as opposed to Full moon. This occurred during the day, and the reason why you see the rest of the Moon dimly lit, Is earth shine, the light reflecting off the earth onto the moon.
Earth shine still occurs after dark.

It was early in the night although pitch black. Not a ray of sunshine

I dont care how many light bulbs you turn on on Earth. It is not going to light up the moon. The surface of the Earth is covered by around 70% water. Hardly reflective enough to light up the Moon
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Copper Knickers on July 17, 2018, 03:24:52 PM
The surface of the Earth is covered by around 70% water. Hardly reflective enough to light up the Moon

Plenty reflective enough, as your own observation testifies. Unless you have another explanation...
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: MouseWalker on July 17, 2018, 05:43:07 PM
Yesterday (and not for the first time) I have witnessed the lie that is our moon

It was a very thin crescent shape YET when looking at it, you could see the WHOLE moon! The rest of it was just really dark but you could clearly see a full circle

And don't give me any garbage about it being some stupid 'optical illusion' and that our brain fills in the gaps or other such nonsense. If the moon is as it is described in official texts, than I should NOT have seen a full moon when there should only have been the thinnest of crescents

Moon is debunked
As I interpret what you have said, you're seeing the moon just after, the new Moon, as opposed to Full moon. This occurred during the day, and the reason why you see the rest of the Moon dimly lit, Is earth shine, the light reflecting off the earth onto the moon.
Earth shine still occurs after dark.


It was early in the night although pitch black. Not a ray of sunshine

I dont care how many light bulbs you turn on on Earth. It is not going to light up the moon. The surface of the Earth is covered by around 70% water. Hardly reflective enough to light up the Moon
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: markjo on July 18, 2018, 09:59:51 AM
Yesterday (and not for the first time) I have witnessed the lie that is our moon

It was a very thin crescent shape YET when looking at it, you could see the WHOLE moon! The rest of it was just really dark but you could clearly see a full circle

And don't give me any garbage about it being some stupid 'optical illusion' and that our brain fills in the gaps or other such nonsense. If the moon is as it is described in official texts, than I should NOT have seen a full moon when there should only have been the thinnest of crescents

Moon is debunked
As I interpret what you have said, you're seeing the moon just after, the new Moon, as opposed to Full moon. This occurred during the day, and the reason why you see the rest of the Moon dimly lit, Is earth shine, the light reflecting off the earth onto the moon.
Earth shine still occurs after dark.

It was early in the night although pitch black. Not a ray of sunshine

I dont care how many light bulbs you turn on on Earth. It is not going to light up the moon. The surface of the Earth is covered by around 70% water. Hardly reflective enough to light up the Moon

I'm guessing that this is something like what you saw:
(https://www.cloudynights.com/uploads/monthly_12_2017/post-99-0-09325400-1513932576.jpg)
The bright part of the moon is directly illuminated by the sun.  The barely visible part is illuminated by sunlight reflecting off of the daytime part of the earth (which is why it's barely visible).
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on July 20, 2018, 10:24:45 AM
Today is "national moon day" don't let them trick you into looking at it.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Bullwinkle on July 20, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/oIihSEg.jpg)
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Tommyocean on August 14, 2018, 12:55:33 PM
When the moon appears as a thin crescent, the Earth is almost at the full phase when seen from the moons dark area.  You know how bright the full moon is?   The full Earth is even brighter.  It is bright enough to partially illuminate the dark portion of the moon.  This effect is sometime referred to as "The old moon in the new moons arms"
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Space Cowgirl on August 14, 2018, 01:11:07 PM
I hope you wear protection when in the arms of the moon.
Title: Re: Moonlight: Dangers & Precautions
Post by: Googleotomy on August 14, 2018, 01:33:00 PM
Yesterday (and not for the first time) I have witnessed the lie that is our moon

It was a very thin crescent shape YET when looking at it, you could see the WHOLE moon! The rest of it was just really dark but you could clearly see a full circle

And don't give me any garbage about it being some stupid 'optical illusion' and that our brain fills in the gaps or other such nonsense. If the moon is as it is described in official texts, than I should NOT have seen a full moon when there should only have been the thinnest of crescents

Moon is debunked
As I interpret what you have said, you're seeing the moon just after, the new Moon, as opposed to Full moon. This occurred during the day, and the reason why you see the rest of the Moon dimly lit, Is earth shine, the light reflecting off the earth onto the moon.
Earth shine still occurs after dark.

It was early in the night although pitch black. Not a ray of sunshine

I dont care how many light bulbs you turn on on Earth. It is not going to light up the moon. The surface of the Earth is covered by around 70% water. Hardly reflective enough to light up the Moon

I'm guessing that this is something like what you saw:
(https://www.cloudynights.com/uploads/monthly_12_2017/post-99-0-09325400-1513932576.jpg)
The bright part of the moon is directly illuminated by the sun.  The barely visible part is illuminated by sunlight reflecting off of the daytime part of the earth (which is why it's barely visible).
That picture of the moon was obviously taken with a camera and film.
 Another case of exposure as in "Why don't you see the stars in the moon pictures ?". 
 Your eyes have a more dynamic range than film and camera.
You would probably see a bit more brightness than in the dark area barely visible  in the picture,