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The Flat Earth Society => Announcements => Topic started by: Lord Wilmore on March 11, 2012, 03:00:50 PM

Title: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on March 11, 2012, 03:00:50 PM
Okay, so the current theme is basically very ugly, and nobody really likes it. We need a new one.


Now, I've long felt that given how many people here are handy when it comes to design, it might be an idea to ask the members to come up with theme proposals. I'll set a deadline for submissions (say a month from now), at which point we'll ask everyone to tell us which theme they like best. The winning entry will become the site theme.


In terms of rough guidelines, personally I think something that is akin to the old theme would be best, but who knows, someone might come up with something different that looks better. The only set-in-stone criterion is that it match the current FES logo (which means the colour-scheme probably shouldn't be very different).


Now, to absolutely clear, the administration and Daniel has the final call. So if you make a penis theme and it's overwhelming popular, don't expect us to upload it. Furthermore, admins/mods are also allowed to contribute, so don't be too bummed if one of them gets the nod. I don't have any aptitude for visual design, but I know John is already doing something, and some of the other mods may be interested. Basically, it's not members-only.


So yeah, that's about it. I look forward to viewing the place without sunglasses at some point in the near future. GO FORTH AND CREATE
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on March 11, 2012, 03:02:18 PM
Some inspiration for all of you:


Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 11, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
???

How do we create a theme? You would need to give us dimensions for banners, backgrounds, buttons etc etc.

In short I'm handy with a computer brush, but I don't even know where to begin. What is required?

Are you expecting us to modify the html of a theme.css file that we can't see?

Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on March 11, 2012, 03:24:32 PM
Well to be honest with you, I really don't have any more of an idea than you. Having no aptitude for this sort of thing, I've simply never done it. However, given that different themes usually have different dimensions for all of the above, I assume there aren't any set figures. I mean, lots of the standard themes you can dowload have different banner/border/button sizes.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 11, 2012, 03:27:24 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone who doesn't own their own server with smf on it to test, will be able to enter.

As the dragons say ...

(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/ac3/a5c/319/resized/business-cat-meme-generator-and-fot-that-reason-i-m-out-cb7411.jpg)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: EnglshGentleman on March 11, 2012, 03:29:35 PM
Some inspiration for all of you:




Saying, "I'm on the weird part of youtube, again" does not even begin to describe this video.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on March 11, 2012, 03:42:55 PM
Thork.
http://www.simplemachines.org/

Find the forum software.
Download it.
Go to the themes folder.
Edit to your heart's content.

You may want to start an SQL server and ftp server so you can have a live visual while altering the theme.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 11, 2012, 03:45:56 PM
You may want to start an SQL server and ftp server so you can have a live visual while altering the theme.
And here my quest ends. I'll look forward to your entry.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on March 11, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
You may want to start an SQL server and ftp server so you can have a live visual while altering the theme.
And here my quest ends. I'll look forward to your entry.
Why? It's easy. I've done it.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 11, 2012, 04:51:35 PM
I'm not installing all that crap onto my PC. I'll look forward to your entry. If you need a banner or background or something, let me know.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on March 11, 2012, 05:08:40 PM
I'm not installing all that crap onto my PC. I'll look forward to your entry. If you need a banner or background or something, let me know.

Then use a virtual machine.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on March 12, 2012, 03:02:53 AM
Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone who doesn't own their own server with smf on it to test, will be able to enter.

I'll see if I can install SMF on my server, such that any idiot can upload a theme to it. I'm no good with design, so it'll be my contribution to this shindig.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 12, 2012, 04:17:50 AM
Okay, so the current theme is basically very ugly, and nobody really likes it.


The only set-in-stone criterion is that it match the current FES logo (which means the colour-scheme probably shouldn't be very different).

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/FESlogo.gif)
So the theme must have a bright white background, be blue and use green or yellow? Text in black?

It is unfortunate that the logo is such a heinous piece of crap. Its child-like and garish. By dictating the forum must look like the hideous logo, the forum will continue to look as though it dressed itself in the dark.

How about ... just going out on a limb here, the theme only needs to include the logo. I recon I could do something pretty cool, but I would probably inset the logo into the steel hilt of a Crusader's sword or carved into the knocker of some magnificent doors or something. I wouldn't leave it looking as though it was crayoned on by Zippy and Bungle.

I'll tell you what. If Parsifal makes it so that indeed an idiot can create a theme on his server, I'll make something that does not offend the eyes. If it can't be the main theme for fear 5 year olds mightn't like it, maybe just upload it so as those who want a darker less offensive theme can select it as a preference?

I'll see if I can install SMF on my server, such that any idiot can upload a theme to it. I'm no good with design, so it'll be my contribution to this shindig.
If it means I can easily get on with it and not be messing about installing god knows what, then I would accept your most generous offer.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Blanko on March 12, 2012, 06:05:48 AM
It is unfortunate that the logo is such a heinous piece of crap.

Please keep the trolling in the lower fora.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on March 12, 2012, 06:14:30 AM
Well Thork as far as creating a theme fast and easy this is what I would do:

Design the theme or a mockup on paper and/or photoshop
Export necessary Placeholder images from ps
Code the CSS / HTML for a few pages
Edit it for the template engine to use by adding in whatever additional markup you need

As far as a white background no.  You could use a .png with a transparent background. 

I'm not crazy about the logo myself (hence commissioning my own years ago), but there is a lot of room to work around it.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on March 12, 2012, 08:09:06 AM
Yeah, when I said the colour scheme shouldn't be very different, I probably could've been clearer - I meant it probably shouldn't be too different to the old theme, rather than exactly the same as the logo (after all, the old theme didn't have any green or yellow in it). However, as I say, I have absolutely no artistic skill or aptitude, so I can't really say what colour schemes will or won't work.


That said, I really like our current logo. I think it's bright and colourful, and gives the right impression.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on March 12, 2012, 08:31:24 AM
Personally, I'm going to pitch a different colour scheme all together.  This blue is extremely dated.

If you do this or something like this, just make sure it works.  If this is your first time attempting something like this, I'd start with photoshop or gimp and choose a similar structure and style.  That way you won't have to rewrite all the css and start from a brand new fresh empty template.

You can also find a free to use and modify theme online and alter it appropriately.   This is a great idea if this your first attempt at anything like this.

I'd suggest against this if you plan on winning instead of just having your theme one of the choices available;  I hope to unify the theme across the site to solidify our design and identity.  So if your choice wins, I will likely alter it to create the front page site and I hope that will also be reflected in the judging.  I believe Daniel gets final say though.

Obviously, by entering you are agreeing that we can use your design however we want and see fit for this site or organization for as long as we want.





Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 12, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
Mmm. Could just blend the logo with other things to make it look a bit less cartoon-like and set a theme around that.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/msj88n.png)

Dunno. I might leave this for Jon. It seems a huge waste of someone's time if theirs isn't picked.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on March 12, 2012, 03:29:55 PM
Why not just use the logo but with no color?  That way whatever theme is decided on, we can match the logo to the colors?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on March 13, 2012, 05:15:55 AM
Update: I've got SMF up and running: http://smf.steven-mcdonald.id.au/

However, there's currently no way for you guys to upload themes. I was hoping to hack up something crude but functional tonight, but then I had to give my attention to an unexpected problem that arose at work. I'll keep you posted; hopefully there'll be some way you can use this to test your themes by the time the weekend rolls around.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on March 13, 2012, 07:13:51 AM
It seems a huge waste of someone's time if theirs isn't picked.
I was under the impression that even if you don't win, if your theme isn't crap it will still be a user option, just not the default.

On the otherhand, looking through all the code for each theme for malicious code would be a daunting task depending on the number of entries.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on March 13, 2012, 01:16:27 PM
Update: I've got SMF up and running: http://smf.steven-mcdonald.id.au/

However, there's currently no way for you guys to upload themes. I was hoping to hack up something crude but functional tonight, but then I had to give my attention to an unexpected problem that arose at work. I'll keep you posted; hopefully there'll be some way you can use this to test your themes by the time the weekend rolls around.

Can't admins upload new themes?  All they need to do is download a theme, unzip it, alter it to their heart's content, then rezip it and upload it via the admin page.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on March 14, 2012, 12:11:20 AM
Can't admins upload new themes?  All they need to do is download a theme, unzip it, alter it to their heart's content, then rezip it and upload it via the admin page.

Possibly, but giving arbitrary users admin privileges isn't something I'm keen on doing.

I'll see whether SMF's privilege system allows me to do something a bit more flexible.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on March 14, 2012, 04:02:32 AM
The upload functionality on my board is ready to roll. I've written an explanatory post here: http://smf.steven-mcdonald.id.au/index.php?topic=2.0

As per that post, please PM me either here, or on that forum, to obtain login credentials to upload your themes. Just a heads up though, I'm unlikely to respond until about 20 hours from now, as I'm about to go to bed and work thereafter.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on March 14, 2012, 08:43:15 AM
Thanks for doing this Steve, I'm sure anyone designing a theme will appreciate it.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 15, 2012, 12:51:46 PM
Just want to say I have been using Parsifal's new set up and it is really easy to use.

All you need is a text editor (I use notepad ++ (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/), its free) and a paint program (I use paint.net (http://www.getpaint.net/[/url) also free). Its surprisingly easy to take an old theme and chop it up. I have a bunch of ideas but won't be able to do them all. Maybe some other people would like them.

Complete nonsense has a theme. Angry Rantings doesn't. That might be a really fun one to do. Also a phone version as we only have one phone option.

Anyway, just wanted to say parsifal has made it really easy and has made this theme thing possible for the great unwashed to participate in. Hopefully we'll have a bunch of good themes to choose from and if you steal a ready made theme and just adapt it to look FESsy you don't need to know anything about coding.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 15, 2012, 05:08:45 PM
We are only one day in, so I have only had time to make a banner, but wondered if people liked what I was doing? I want a kind of moon light feel to the theme. the bright white will go as will writing across my banner and a whole heap of other changes, but essentially its just the blue background and RE/FE banner that I did today.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/14v5u05.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/14kut6t.png)
*click for full size.

Also did I pitch it right? I didn't fill it with moonshramp but I wanted to make it look interesting and friendly - like the people here. :P I should say its Isaac Newton on the left and Rowbotham on the right to save any embarrassment. :D

Maybe someone else will do a moonshramp theme?

I thought I'd ask as there is no point ploughing on doing something if everyone will hate it and not use it at the end. :(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Coconutface on March 15, 2012, 05:57:32 PM
We are only one day in, so I have only had time to make a banner, but wondered if people liked what I was doing? I want a kind of moon light feel to the theme. the bright white will go as will writing across my banner and a whole heap of other changes, but essentially its just the blue background and RE/FE banner that I did today.

(http://i44.tinypic.com/14v5u05.jpg) (http://i43.tinypic.com/14kut6t.png)
*click for full size.

Also did I pitch it right? I didn't fill it with moonshramp but I wanted to make it look interesting and friendly - like the people here. :P I should say its Isaac Newton on the left and Rowbotham on the right to save any embarrassment. :D

Maybe someone else will do a moonshramp theme?

I thought I'd ask as there is no point ploughing on doing something if everyone will hate it and not use it at the end. :(
Why is there money?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 15, 2012, 05:59:05 PM
Because there is a conspiracy? don't give me crap about there is or isn't a conspiracy. We discuss it a lot and have a bizillion threads about conspiracy - or it could be NASA's dirty slush money if you like. The money is on the RE side of the moon.

Do you actually liek how it looks? tell me or I crey! :'(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Coconutface on March 15, 2012, 06:05:58 PM
Because there is a conspiracy? don't give me crap about there is or isn't a conspiracy. We discuss it a lot and have a bizillion threads about conspiracy - or it could be NASA's dirty slush money if you like. The money is on the RE side of the moon.

Do you actually liek how it looks? tell me or I crey! :'(
My Opinion doesn't matter I'm new here. am i doing it rite, Nomud?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on March 16, 2012, 07:46:16 AM
Thork,

Since you've only done the banner, I'll just say what I think about that.  The theme as a whole I'm not extremely fond of, but I'll wait til you are done.

The gradient to white is a bit odd.  That looks like it might be the parent theme though.
I like the concept and choice of graphics, but it currently looks cluttered and without order. 
Title and Time are both hard to read


Steve,

Thanks a ton, we really appreciate it.



Everyone else,

If you have no idea about css/html feel free to design just a mockup (and supply me with appropriate files to edit when the time comes).  I'll do the legwork if it wins or is going to be featured to make it into a full theme.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 16, 2012, 11:15:18 AM
I had only done the banner and background. ??? I want to move the time and do a proper logo when I have time + there won't be balloon etc. That's all from the original. I will likely remove the quick search bar too, because it just encourages people to not use the filters and search the whole damn forum. 

Oh well, whilst not brimming with confidence now, I'll plug on. :-\

Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 16, 2012, 04:03:59 PM
Well a bit moar done.

(http://i41.tinypic.com/3038zmr.png) (http://i41.tinypic.com/3038zmr.png)
*click for fullscreen

I still haven't executed the balloons or moved the time etc, but slowly slowly, catchy monkey.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on March 17, 2012, 09:06:56 AM
Thanks for doing this Steve, I'm sure anyone designing a theme will appreciate it.
Steve,

Thanks a ton, we really appreciate it.

No problem. I'm happy to help, and it was fun to set up anyway.

So far, Thork is the only person to upload a theme. Feel free to PM me for login details if you're interested in entering; I promise I won't bite! :)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on March 17, 2012, 09:20:28 AM
I will add, its really easy. There are enough people here to offer support just in case anyway. If you have some free time and feel creative, give it a go.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on March 17, 2012, 10:23:23 AM
And any technical problems with the service will be promptly addressed. As Thork puts it:

Christ, you don't mess about.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Eddy Baby on March 31, 2012, 03:34:59 PM
i dont know who peter is!!
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on April 01, 2012, 11:32:58 PM
I like it, Thork, but I'd make the blue background much more pale.  The vibrant blue you've got draws a lot of attention to itself when it has absolutely no reason to.  The eye should be drawn towards the content, not away from it.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on April 02, 2012, 08:28:30 AM
Here's my thoughts on the theme itself, not your changes.  I hope they prove useful to you.  I am not trying to knock your design or anything, just give you useful constructive criticism and some areas I see right off that might be easy to change and should increase your design usability a ton.

That blue is odd.  On some monitors it may appear more purple than you'd intend.  I need to colour callibrate my new monitor soon. I'll let you know when I do and how it looks.
I like it, Thork, but I'd make the blue background much more pale.  The vibrant blue you've got draws a lot of attention to itself when it has absolutely no reason to.  The eye should be drawn towards the content, not away from it.
This seems like a reasonable idea.  Our current site has that heavy dark matte that the site sits in.  This, to me, creates a weird effect where you are both drawn to the content while at the same time drawn to the borders of the site.  The issue is worse on larger monitors.  A paler colour would do wonders.  Or even an appropriate background texture, image, etc.

The white gradients look weird with it as well, especially when it fades to white on the borders of content areas.  This serves no purpose design or functionality wise and looks out of place.

The dotted background images make the text harder to read.

The header image overlaps the weird white gradient while also leaving a jagged edge at the edges (not accounting for the curved corners I imagine)

Text for date is hard to read.

The font on the logo seems a little too ornate for this.  In addition some of the tweening / spacing / sizing on it needs to be manually adjusted.  It appears to be a display or graphical font as well.  Its feeling also imo doesn't really represent the society.

Navigation bar is too tall for the text displayed in it.

Search area has different margins on the search input than on the submit button.  Perhaps a taller input?  Also it is, like the news (listed next) almost flush with the top of that div.  Perhaps it would make more sense anyways in the nav bar.

News has no margin or padding to move it away from the top of its containing div.  That whole area (and most areas) should have a unified or at least sensible scheme for padding and margin.  It also appears to have different left and right margins / padding than the rest of that area.

It looks like you used a png  for the header.  I'd suggest using a jpeg with the appropriate color as a background instead.  This saves download time and bandwidth as well as a few display issues on older browsers.

User information in the top left seems to be a different colour scheme and also in general just looks a bit out of place and style.

Border radius on the main content area differs from those areas contained within it.  This, like most of these notes, are minor but when put together cause a real strain on the design and eye.

Balloons.

Remove white around logo





Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on April 02, 2012, 08:37:06 AM
Many of these things have been adjusted already. I have moar improvements to go. It'll be another week before I return to finish it off. I probably shouldn't have posted incremental changes but nevermind.

Also, I look forward to seeing other people's efforts. I haven't seen anyone else paste anything yet.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 02, 2012, 08:52:44 AM
I really like the banner Thork, but like John and Nomad I am not a big fan of the overall colour scheme. A pale blue would do your theme a lot more justice, in my opinion.  I'm not big on the font for 'The Flat Earth Society' either. Something a bit more... subtle would be good. Oh, and no baloons methinks.


I too would like to see what (if anything) other members have done. Has anyone else even done a mock-up as John suggested?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on April 02, 2012, 09:04:18 AM
huff. The logo was purely because I haven't decided how to incorporate the child's logo we have in yet.

The balloons will be gone. They are going to be replaced with social media buttons linking the forum to facebook, daniel's twitter and the FES wiki. I already made the buttons but I'll just add them before I show you. Instead of cycling the balloons it can cycle messages such as "(http://smallbuck.com/nashvillewebdesign/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/facebook_like_button_big.jpg) us on facebook" or "Follow our leader on twitter." "check out our wiki" "join the society" or words to that effect. There is an option to turn the prompts off if they are annoying.

The search bar has already gone - same as current theme. The banner no longer has abrupt edges, the black text on the dotted headers is now white everywhere, the top menu font will be getting enlarged + I have a few other ideas.

The theme ... is not finished. There will be no moar updates. I'll just show you next when its finished. Be in about 2 weeks as this week is a write off for me.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Pongo on April 02, 2012, 10:04:06 AM
Thork, it's pretty cool I guess, but can you remove the balloons?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on April 02, 2012, 04:13:30 PM
Might I suggest leaving out the balloons?

Also, I think someone should mention that those balloons don't look very good.

HEY THORK SEEMS I'M THE ONLY ONE TO TELL YOU GET RID OF THOSE BALLOONS

I kind of like the idea for the social networking stuff, but could you also include a version without them?  I'm a less is more kind of guy, and since I'm already connected to FES on facebook I don't still need FES constantly telling me to.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 02, 2012, 04:27:36 PM
Get rid of those stupid balloons, Thork.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on April 02, 2012, 04:37:27 PM
I too think the balloons are a bit much.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Ski on April 02, 2012, 05:12:40 PM
I rather like the banner, but am surprised noone has complained about the balloons previously.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on April 03, 2012, 02:45:00 AM
Due to public demand the balloons will remain a permanent feature. I didn't really like them but you all begged and begged.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on April 03, 2012, 01:46:59 PM
Due to public demand the balloons will remain a permanent feature. I didn't really like them but you all begged and begged.
Finally a voice of reason.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: theonlydann on April 06, 2012, 05:41:46 PM
Balloon approval modification alteration.

bummed
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: iwanttobelieve on April 09, 2012, 07:47:39 PM
whats wrong with balloons??? 

especially because of the awesome anti-war song, 99 red balloons.

I think this is the way of Thork saying that discearththoery is a benevolent  group.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on April 21, 2012, 02:57:29 AM
So is this done yet?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: iwanttobelieve on April 24, 2012, 09:39:48 AM
Who won and what was his/her prize?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on May 01, 2012, 11:14:32 AM
I'll be throwing one in at some point.  Clearly its not done as we don't even have one completed entry.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Supertails on May 01, 2012, 02:12:34 PM
I'd try, I'm just not sure I would even know where to start. I've always designed my own avvys, signatures, wallpapers, and Chrome Themes though, so I might have a tiny bit to offer.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Verrine on May 12, 2012, 12:06:44 PM
I'd try, I'm just not sure I would even know where to start. I've always designed my own avvys, signatures, wallpapers, and Chrome Themes though, so I might have a tiny bit to offer.

Judging by your avatar, you don't.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Supertails on May 12, 2012, 12:52:38 PM
Yeah I know. :(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on June 30, 2012, 04:01:01 PM
HURRY UP THORK WE NEED THIS THEME STAT
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on July 01, 2012, 02:18:58 AM
HURRY UP THORK WE NEED THIS THEME STAT

I made an effort but everyone bitched they didn't like the colour scheme and this bit and that bit and I just gave up. I assumed no one was interested in it because everyone hated it.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/3038zmr.png) (http://i41.tinypic.com/3038zmr.png)
*click for fullscreen

And yeah, I did get rid of the balloons. >:(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on July 01, 2012, 02:59:45 AM
It appears my theme sandbox is broken somehow. One moment, fixing.

Edit: Fixed. During my Linode migration to LVM, I accidentally nuked extended filesystem ACLs, resulting in the web server having no permission to read the site content. My bad. :(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on July 01, 2012, 08:39:57 AM
Honestly, I like the current theme. 
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on July 02, 2012, 08:48:51 PM
Honestly, I like the current theme.


The theme is okay, but the real problem is that there is no integrated banner, or general aesthetic. This kind of look was fine a few years ago, but it's starting to look dated. There were parts of Thork's theme I didn't like (BALLOONS), but overall it looked much better than what we have. Honestly, if the balloons were burst, it was blue, and the banner text had a different font, I would be all for replacing what we have with Thork's effort. It looked a lot more professional. The Newton/Rowbotham graphic looked pretty cool.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: John Davis on July 02, 2012, 08:52:09 PM
I'll try to get my entry for the front site and forum up in the next week or two.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: iwanttobelieve on December 10, 2012, 06:42:32 PM
did anyone ever win the is noble contest?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 10, 2012, 06:42:59 PM
did anyone ever win the is noble contest?


Win? Nobody entered...
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on December 10, 2012, 06:43:29 PM
I'll try to get my entry for the front site and forum up in the next week or two.

We're still waiting, John.  Hmph, typical.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: iwanttobelieve on December 10, 2012, 07:06:14 PM
Would be great to see Davis;s entry.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 10, 2012, 07:13:35 PM
I'd like to see John's, but Thork's offering was actually really good. I'd like a lighter shade of blue (as the dark blue is one of the problems with the current theme), and maybe a different font for the banner, but even as is, I think it looks like a big improvement on the current theme. I mean, the Newton/Rowbotham graphic looks really cool.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 10, 2012, 07:27:26 PM
I actually do the graphics thing for a living, so maybe I'll take a shot at this if I can find the time in the next few days :)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 10, 2012, 07:32:38 PM
I actually do the graphics thing for a living, so maybe I'll take a shot at this if I can find the time in the next few days :)


That would be great!


RE: doing it for a living... bear in mind that we do not pay well. Unless you eat keyrings, or live in a country where they are accepted as legal tender.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on December 11, 2012, 08:50:19 AM
If Parsifal would be so good as to get the damn profile picture working in the version I built, it could certainly be added as an option. At least its site themed.

It just needs to keep the picture in the top left small. :(

And by the way, there are no balloons anymore.  >o<
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Pongo on December 11, 2012, 10:05:57 AM
And by the way, there are no balloons anymore.  >o<

I used to hate the balloons, but they've grown on me.  And they are a reference to Vonnegut's granfalloon which is perfect for describing the society's members.  I love the balloons, can you bring them back?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on December 11, 2012, 03:11:15 PM
I'm really bummed that there will be no balloons.  :(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Ski on December 11, 2012, 03:23:40 PM
Due to public demand the balloons will remain a permanent feature. I didn't really like them but you all begged and begged.
Finally a voice of reason.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on December 11, 2012, 03:31:51 PM
Fine, I will consult with Parsifal. There will be balloons.

Jesus Christ! >o<
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 11, 2012, 03:52:02 PM
Nobody really wants the balloons. Everyone wants your theme. I want it bluer. These are true things, ignoreth the lies.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 11, 2012, 04:13:07 PM
I won't be satisfied unless there's cats
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on December 11, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
Now I remember why I didn't finish it the first time. >:(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Saddam Hussein on December 11, 2012, 08:38:38 PM
Have any of you tried editing some of the other themes we have, instead of just the current default?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 12, 2012, 11:55:20 AM
Have any of you tried editing some of the other themes we have, instead of just the current default?

I am actually working on a re-skin of the current theme, because I think the layout works quite well.  I'll look at some of the others, too :)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Beorn on December 12, 2012, 12:26:48 PM
Are you adding balloons?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Thork on December 12, 2012, 12:29:32 PM
Are you adding balloons?
There is no way I can answer this yes or no and have you like the answer. It'll have to be a surprise.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Saddam Hussein on December 12, 2012, 12:30:05 PM
I'm currently using the Celeste option.  I like the colors.  It's a much lighter blue than the abrasive default.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Beorn on December 12, 2012, 12:30:54 PM
I did leave FES when they changed from the old theme, don't make that happen again.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PM
Here you go, re-skin of the existing default theme, it's very much work-in-progress.   I nixed the blue background in favor of a lovely parchment tone, killed the harsh gradients, de-saturated colors all over, and added some distressed celestial charts for visual interest - nothing specific enough to be recognizable, just flair.  Also, I made a shiny new transparent png logo for the header. 

Yes - it's basically the same theme we have now, except with some visual interest and less harsh colors.  I'll take a look at some others as well too, if we want a layout shift.

http://prntscr.com/m0p2z (http://prntscr.com/m0p2z)

EDIT:  I do plan on updating most / all of the icons as well, as they're still the old garish blue.  But this is sufficient for a preview I think :)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tom Bishop on December 12, 2012, 01:06:47 PM
Very good.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Saddam Hussein on December 12, 2012, 01:21:09 PM
I like it.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Beorn on December 12, 2012, 02:20:56 PM
Nice
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 12, 2012, 04:10:40 PM
That's quite nice.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on December 12, 2012, 07:02:05 PM
I really like that.  I declare Tintagel the winner.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Particle Person on December 12, 2012, 08:27:12 PM
I don't know. Where are the balloons?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 12, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
I don't know. Where are the balloons?

Well, I do still have the icons to re-work.  There could well be a balloon in there somewhere by the time I'm through :)

Also, thanks for all the kind words from everyone else.  I'm still nitpicking it (and will continue to do so even after it's "finished") but it's good to know we're on the right track.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tom Bishop on December 12, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
My only suggestion is to make The Flat Earth Society in all one line without breaks.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 13, 2012, 06:46:27 AM
I think that looks great! Really professional. I agree with Tom about the logo though, but that should be simple to do (he blindly assumes). The banner is really nice. Awesome stuff Tintagel!
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 13, 2012, 08:03:19 AM
Tintagel gets the best noob award.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 13, 2012, 11:11:16 AM
Tintagel gets the best noob award.

\o/

Sig'd.  Also, re: the type all on one line - I set it the way I did to match the typesetting on the existing masthead, but you're right, easily enough managed.  I'll try to do that this afternoon.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 13, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
What do you have in mind for the new post indicators for each forum?  The thought of having them little FES logos came to mind (greyed out when no new posts), but that may be too busy.

Maybe with the cartography theme of the template, could do little compass roses.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 13, 2012, 12:52:30 PM
What do you have in mind for the new post indicators for each forum?  The thought of having them little FES logos came to mind (greyed out when no new posts), but that may be too busy.

Maybe with the cartography theme of the template, could do little compass roses.

I did definitely think of using little FES logos - though your idea of compass roses is lovely as well.  I'll play around with it!  Today work is absolutely insane - but I'll do my best to get the theme complete by the weekend.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 18, 2012, 06:35:52 PM
Tintagel gets the best noob award.


Agreed!
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 18, 2012, 08:32:46 PM
Tintagel gets the best noob award.


Agreed!

Thanks very much, Wilmore :)  I'm still workin on this - those post indicator icons are teeny and tedious to edit if one wants them crisp, so it's a pixel-by-pixel process.  Look for a complete theme by Christmas, though.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 19, 2012, 03:58:35 AM
That's awesome Tintagel! I really appreciate this - it's a really nice thing to do, and this place has been crying out for a new lick of paint. Also, check your PMs.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 20, 2012, 01:17:02 PM
Uploaded a new build, with new (but admittedly not yet perfect, now that I get to see them in place) icons for new posts / no new posts / redirect and some others.  Also updated the logo so that the text isn't stacked.

Apart from minor pixel issues, most of what I'm looking to catch now are bugs that are in the CSS itself - I haven't gone thought all the stylesheets so I'm sure there are places where the old color scheme is hard-coded and doesn't match the new skin.

Probably just one more update before this can be used, so it's coming Real Soon Now (tm) :)

http://prntscr.com/mqqgw (http://prntscr.com/mqqgw)

Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: hoppy on December 20, 2012, 01:23:02 PM
AWSOME
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Space Cowgirl on December 21, 2012, 11:00:52 AM
It looks really nice, Tintagel.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 21, 2012, 06:39:19 PM
Looks pretty cool :D  Only thing I might request is a little anti-aliasing on the post indicators (which I'm sure is exactly what you noticed as well) and MAYBE greying the entire "no new posts" one instead of just the landmasses, but otherwise I'm really digging it.  :D
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on December 22, 2012, 09:47:34 PM
Very lovely.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 23, 2012, 03:36:08 AM
Uploaded a new build, with new (but admittedly not yet perfect, now that I get to see them in place) icons for new posts / no new posts / redirect and some others.  Also updated the logo so that the text isn't stacked.

Apart from minor pixel issues, most of what I'm looking to catch now are bugs that are in the CSS itself - I haven't gone thought all the stylesheets so I'm sure there are places where the old color scheme is hard-coded and doesn't match the new skin.

Probably just one more update before this can be used, so it's coming Real Soon Now (tm) :)

http://prntscr.com/mqqgw (http://prntscr.com/mqqgw)


This looks really great.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: iwanttobelieve on December 23, 2012, 07:05:41 PM
this is really good, when will it be implemented?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 23, 2012, 08:41:10 PM
this is really good, when will it be implemented?

Home with family until Tuesday - will get a finalized version uploaded then :)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 26, 2012, 08:31:07 AM
Think we're ready to go - once it's in place and being used, I am sure that inconsistencies and bugs will be found, but I will squash those as they arise.   All that remains is for me to get the theme files to the admins here, and for them to upload it. 

http://prntscr.com/n8qps (http://prntscr.com/n8qgo)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on December 26, 2012, 08:48:27 AM
All that remains is for me to get the theme files to the admins here, and for them to upload it.

With luck, you'll be able to get them to action that by this time next year.

Thanks for the theme Tintagel, looks nice.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 26, 2012, 11:16:18 AM
Very nice.  Excited to see this in action :D
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 28, 2012, 05:37:22 AM
Think we're ready to go - once it's in place and being used, I am sure that inconsistencies and bugs will be found, but I will squash those as they arise.   All that remains is for me to get the theme files to the admins here, and for them to upload it. 

http://prntscr.com/n8qps (http://prntscr.com/n8qgo)


Daniel already knows this was in the works, but I'll let him know that it's finished immediately.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 28, 2012, 09:44:18 AM
AWESOME.  This looks great!  Thanks Tintagel!
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lorddave on December 28, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
All that remains is for me to get the theme files to the admins here, and for them to upload it.

With luck, you'll be able to get them to action that by this time next year.

Thanks for the theme Tintagel, looks nice.
Once again, Partial is wrong.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Daniel on December 28, 2012, 09:49:15 AM
Tintagel,

The theme looks absolutely amazing.  A huge improvement over what we've been using.  Thanks so much for setting all this up.  I'll email you about what you and Wilmore discussed..
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 28, 2012, 09:57:37 AM
Tintagel,

The theme looks absolutely amazing.  A huge improvement over what we've been using.  Thanks so much for setting all this up.  I'll email you about what you and Wilmore discussed..

Thanks so much :) 

Everyone - I suspect some bugs may crop up with regular use, since the theme didn't get much of a workout over on the test server.  Should you find some, please post them here (or in a new sticky thread, perhaps) and I'll fix them as needed.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 28, 2012, 10:02:21 AM
Hah, just noticed one right now.  The "online" notification thing next to your names isn't showing up.  Probably just accidentaly the image when copying over.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Blanko on December 28, 2012, 10:04:50 AM
Thank goodness, I almost feared we'd have to use Thork's theme.

But yeah, really good work on this. Personally I'd change the board indicators to something else, the FES logos look too crowded in there and even a bit misshapen since they're resized.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 28, 2012, 10:06:09 AM
Hah, just noticed one right now.  The "online" notification thing next to your names isn't showing up.  Probably just accidentaly the image when copying over.

Noted, as well as a sizing issue with some avatars (Markjo's is the one I noticed).  I'll see if I can track them down in the CSS.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 28, 2012, 10:19:08 AM
Some of the newer 'star' images are not appearing either. I think that's something that Daniel needs to sort out, rather than Tintagel.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 28, 2012, 10:24:17 AM
Some of the newer 'star' images are not appearing either. I think that's something that Daniel needs to sort out, rather than Tintagel.

Sure, if the theme was modified here after it was installed those modifications will need to be made again.  I snagged the original version of the old theme and used that as my starting point.

I'll still take a look at the css.  Daniel and I can work out reconciling incremental changes from the old theme via email, probably.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Eddy Baby on December 28, 2012, 10:25:50 AM
Well this is pretty
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 28, 2012, 10:26:14 AM
Personally I'd change the board indicators to something else, the FES logos look too crowded in there and even a bit misshapen since they're resized.


Also, this is perhaps the only criticism I would make. Perhaps the compass idea should be resurrected? Though I feel really stingy making any criticisms, as this is such a good job.


Sure, if the theme was modified here after it was installed those modifications will need to be made again.  I snagged the original version of the old theme and used that as my starting point.

I'll still take a look at the css.  Daniel and I can work out reconciling incremental changes from the old theme via email, probably.


Yeah, John put some extra stuff in a while back, which won't be in the original theme. Should all be easy enough for Daniel to find in the images folder.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 28, 2012, 10:30:19 AM
Personally I'd change the board indicators to something else, the FES logos look too crowded in there and even a bit misshapen since they're resized.


Also, this is perhaps the only criticism I would make. Perhaps the compass idea should be resurrected? Though I feel really stingy making any criticisms, as this is such a good job.


Sure, if the theme was modified here after it was installed those modifications will need to be made again.  I snagged the original version of the old theme and used that as my starting point.

I'll still take a look at the css.  Daniel and I can work out reconciling incremental changes from the old theme via email, probably.


Yeah, John put some extra stuff in a while back, which won't be in the original theme. Should all be easy enough for Daniel to find in the images folder.

Don't feel stingy, I don't mind! :)  There is a lot going on in the FES logo to be reproduced at 19x19 pixels (for the smaller ones), so the criticism is valid.   I'll see what I can work out as an alternative. 
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Moon squirter on December 28, 2012, 10:39:54 AM
Some of the newer 'star' images are not appearing either. I think that's something that Daniel needs to sort out, rather than Tintagel.

This is how it looks on an iPad running Safari.
(http://i45.tinypic.com/316axyg.jpg)

The only minor issue apart from the missing images is the banner text "The Flat Earth Society" running into the status text.  Lots of people use iPads (like it or not), so I think this is worth addressing at some point.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Blanko on December 28, 2012, 10:51:57 AM
Have you tried not horrendously upscaling all the images on the screen?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Moon squirter on December 28, 2012, 11:01:05 AM
Have you tried not horrendously upscaling all the images on the screen?
I don't think you can control that in iPad/Safari. (Or I don't know how).
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Blanko on December 28, 2012, 11:02:14 AM
>buying a fancy tablet only to have it forcibly upscale everything

Oh wow
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Moon squirter on December 28, 2012, 01:43:36 PM
>buying a fancy tablet only to have it forcibly upscale everything

Oh wow
That's fine, but thousands/millions of other potential FES members also sit on their sofas using iPads with Retina displays. It may not be ideal, but it's the reality.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Daniel on December 28, 2012, 01:51:53 PM
Hah, just noticed one right now.  The "online" notification thing next to your names isn't showing up.  Probably just accidentaly the image when copying over.

I just fixed that.  Shouldn't be an issue anymore.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tom Bishop on December 28, 2012, 01:58:51 PM
I think the background blues in the posts should be lighter and the text itself should be a darker grey, if not black. The dark blue background behind every other post is way too blue. High contrast makes for easier reading.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 28, 2012, 02:27:26 PM
I have sent an updated version of the theme to Daniel containing updated post indicator icons (I tried the compass rose idea and found that they looked fine, but a bit 'generic' - so I'm using a simplified and de-saturated iteration of the FES logo again) and a fix for the tablet display issue.

Further updates should be minor from here, I'll let you know when I fix something  :)
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Daniel on December 28, 2012, 02:52:17 PM
Ok, latest version is running now.  And I've fixed a few of the missing stars and the 'user online' image.  Anything else missing?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Beorn on December 28, 2012, 04:03:57 PM
Markjo's avatar seems to be huge, don't know if it's because of the new them though.

Also, where are the balloons?



Oh, at the top where the news and search button is the button stuff is half over the search stuff

(http://s9.postimage.org/wp82wgxu3/Screen_shot_2012_12_29_at_1_05_24_AM.jpg)

Alrighty image didn;t work out and I don't feel like chaning now
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 28, 2012, 08:02:52 PM
Ok, latest version is running now.  And I've fixed a few of the missing stars and the 'user online' image.  Anything else missing?


As far as I can tell, just the silver stars of the Elder Ones usergroup.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 28, 2012, 08:04:26 PM
Also, the banner seems to have rest so that 'The Flat Earth Society' is on two lines again.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on December 28, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
Ok, latest version is running now.  And I've fixed a few of the missing stars and the 'user online' image.  Anything else missing?


As far as I can tell, just the silver stars of the Elder Ones usergroup.

And my spanners.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 28, 2012, 09:12:47 PM
Also, the banner seems to have rest so that 'The Flat Earth Society' is on two lines again.

This is to fix the fact that the banner was too wide on tablet and mobile browsers.  An unfortunate necessity, but I'm open to other solutions.  I didn't want to make the text smaller, so this was the better solution.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Nomad on December 28, 2012, 10:30:33 PM
Oh hey, I like those new post notification icons.  It does look better without the circle.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Lord Wilmore on December 29, 2012, 07:27:00 PM
Also, the banner seems to have rest so that 'The Flat Earth Society' is on two lines again.

This is to fix the fact that the banner was too wide on tablet and mobile browsers.  An unfortunate necessity, but I'm open to other solutions.  I didn't want to make the text smaller, so this was the better solution.


Ah, that makes sense. The only solution I can think of is to have two near-identical themes loaded, with one set as default for phones and tablets. Is a mod like this (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=470580.0) all that is required, or is it more involved?
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Tintagel on December 30, 2012, 08:51:17 AM
Also, the banner seems to have rest so that 'The Flat Earth Society' is on two lines again.

This is to fix the fact that the banner was too wide on tablet and mobile browsers.  An unfortunate necessity, but I'm open to other solutions.  I didn't want to make the text smaller, so this was the better solution.


Ah, that makes sense. The only solution I can think of is to have two near-identical themes loaded, with one set as default for phones and tablets. Is a mod like this (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=470580.0) all that is required, or is it more involved?

A ha, that may indeed work.  Worth a try anyway :)  I can send just the wider, horizontal header image over, since that's all that will change between the two.  We'll just have to remember when we update the theme incrementally in the future to update both copies, but otherwise, if the plugin does what it says, that  would solve it.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Parsifal on December 30, 2012, 08:52:57 AM
Also, the banner seems to have rest so that 'The Flat Earth Society' is on two lines again.

This is to fix the fact that the banner was too wide on tablet and mobile browsers.  An unfortunate necessity, but I'm open to other solutions.  I didn't want to make the text smaller, so this was the better solution.


Ah, that makes sense. The only solution I can think of is to have two near-identical themes loaded, with one set as default for phones and tablets. Is a mod like this (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=470580.0) all that is required, or is it more involved?

You could alternatively avoid code replication by simply using a .htaccess to serve a different banner image for mobile browsers. I'm sure our competent server administrator Daniel can work out how.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Saddam Hussein on December 30, 2012, 11:31:25 AM
But now that you've suggested it, he won't.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: OrbisNonSufficit on December 30, 2012, 10:23:34 PM
But now that you've suggested it, he won't.

Judging Mad Phat.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Beorn on March 07, 2013, 10:18:55 AM
This site has to keep ahead of all the other flat earth business sites.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: Genius on March 07, 2013, 12:07:09 PM
This site has to keep ahead of all the other flat earth business sites.

Forbid we ever become second best in the flat earth market.
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: markjo on March 07, 2013, 12:36:01 PM
This site has to keep ahead of all the other flat earth business sites.

Forbid we ever become second best in the flat earth market.

Believe it or not, we have.  :'(
Title: Re: New Forum Theme Competition
Post by: FlatOrange on April 01, 2013, 02:56:22 PM
Some inspiration for all of you:


(http://)

If someone ever forced me to watch that entire video I'd most likely find a way to slit my wrists before it finished.