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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: Xzentrus on November 13, 2011, 11:04:02 PM

Title: Spooky stuff
Post by: Xzentrus on November 13, 2011, 11:04:02 PM
a flat Earth....
i thought at first that your all full of crap. but then i realized that i cant prove that it is round. but i also cant prove that its flat either. i don't know what to think!
all the research i do to find this stuff out could be fake. i don't know whats right or wrong anymore!!!
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 13, 2011, 11:14:33 PM
a flat Earth....
i thought at first that your all full of crap. but then i realized that i cant prove that it is round. but i also cant prove that its flat either. i don't know what to think!
all the research i do to find this stuff out could be fake. i don't know whats right or wrong anymore!!!


Good fellow, the world is truly a remarkable place to occupy.  It is also a mysterious  one full of uncertainty.  You must endure times of hardship and not suffer from a drastic loss in the ability to live with uncertainty like I have at times.  It leads to anxiety and depression.  These endeavors must be negotiated with confidence and poise if you are to remain in a stable state of mind.  If you need additional support or counsel please feel free to PM me as needed.  I also know of additional methods which are a bit unorthodox, but still foster desirable results when coping with these psychological difficulties.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 14, 2011, 11:59:53 AM
i realized that i cant prove that it is round

I can, look:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

The problem is, they can't prove it's flat, nor can they prove it isn't round beyond saying, "NASA is lying and it's all a cover-up!"  As if, there's really some huge advantage to lying about the shape of the Earth.

You know, I mean... when you assume that the REAL experts in the field are a part of a conspiracy to spread misinformation, well, that leaves you subject to believe anything.  Can the FES prove it isn't a pyramid?
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 14, 2011, 12:15:01 PM
i realized that i cant prove that it is round

I can, look:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

The problem is, they can't prove it's flat, nor can they prove it isn't round beyond saying, "NASA is lying and it's all a cover-up!"  As if, there's really some huge advantage to lying about the shape of the Earth.

You know, I mean... when you assume that the REAL experts in the field are a part of a conspiracy to spread misinformation, well, that leaves you subject to believe anything.  Can the FES prove it isn't a pyramid?


The question is why would one (you) believe the earth to be  pyramid shaped?  There have been experiments demonstrating the earth to be a plane, where are the results alluding to a pyramid shaped earth?  There is much more than your elementary analysis  of FE advocates and their ideas.  You have simply viewed  a few replies from alleged FE advocates and attributed them to everyone  who might subsequently suggest the earth is flat.  That is rather  mainstream media of you kristagurl.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 15, 2011, 07:04:39 AM
The question is why would one (you) believe the earth to be  pyramid shaped?  There have been experiments demonstrating the earth to be a plane, where are the results alluding to a pyramid shaped earth?  There is much more than your elementary analysis  of FE advocates and their ideas.  You have simply viewed  a few replies from alleged FE advocates and attributed them to everyone  who might subsequently suggest the earth is flat.  That is rather  mainstream media of you kristagurl.

That's my point.  Why would one believe the earth to be flat?  There have been experiments demonstrating the earth to be a sphere!  Like... pictures! 

I mean, you can't generalize a group of people under ANY umbrella, so we make assumptions of the parts based on the aspects of the majority.  It's human nature.  I'm sorry if I misjudged your beliefs or whatever, rather than simply judging them as wrong.  I know there's more to the FE theory, including a lot of convenient, HIGHLY unlikely haphazard explanations like... we only see one side of the sphere because the rest of it is too dark.  FEers and REers alike disagree on aspects of their theory within their own group. 

I guess... to me... I don't have a problem living on a flat earth if that's what it is.  There's no motivation for me to keep people thinking the world is round.  So, if there's evidence that the world is flat (that doesn't include dismissing the proof of RE as a cover-up) and that the world CAN'T be round, then I'll go with the flat earth.  I beleive that if there was a motivation behind proving the world is a pyramid, you COULD find scientists who could pull some kind of fringe logic out of their asses to prove it.  I guess that's what my point was.  RE came from taking science and forming an unbiased conclusion.  It seems (to me at least) that FE is mainly taking a debunked, outdated conclusion and trying to scrounge for unlikely evidence to support it... like people who try to use the grand canyon to prove the validity of the story of Noah.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Tgor on November 15, 2011, 06:36:50 PM
So you can say that the earth is in a superposition of beeing every shape at once.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 15, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
So you can say that the earth is in a superposition of beeing every shape at once.

Haha... the world is what you make of it!
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: PizzaPlanet on November 16, 2011, 12:22:15 AM
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg
What a nice two-dimensional circle. What is it?
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 16, 2011, 06:24:57 AM
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

What a nice two-dimensional circle. What is it?

Looks to me like north america wrapping around a sphere.  Observe the image below I just put together in Photoshop:

(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i464/Krista7714/3ESmall.jpg)

On the left is the picture you provided.  In the middle is a head-on satellite image of western North America.  It's the closest thing you'll find to a flat image of North America.  You'll see that it doesn't really resemble the first picture.  Now, for the 3rd picture, I took the head-on satellite image and adjusted the dimensions to make it look more similar to the first picture.  In order to do that, I rotated the map (to about the same degree as the Earth's "alleged" rotational axis), and scrunched it up in width, leaving the height alone.  Which... if North America was on a sphere that was rotating, away from the observer, that's exactly how it would look.

So, that piture proves to me the Earth is round.

And besides, I'm still waiting for someone to explain why you can see stars just over the horizon if the Earth were flat?  If it were flat, those stars would be behind the dark portion of the flat Earth, and thus not in sight, right?
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: LinearPlane on November 16, 2011, 08:53:12 AM
i realized that i cant prove that it is round

I can, look:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

The problem is, they can't prove it's flat, nor can they prove it isn't round beyond saying, "NASA is lying and it's all a cover-up!"  As if, there's really some huge advantage to lying about the shape of the Earth.

You know, I mean... when you assume that the REAL experts in the field are a part of a conspiracy to spread misinformation, well, that leaves you subject to believe anything.  Can the FES prove it isn't a pyramid?

Um, you can easily prove it's round. GPS's work.

FE society destroyed in one two word sentence.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 16, 2011, 09:46:29 AM
i realized that i cant prove that it is round

I can, look:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

The problem is, they can't prove it's flat, nor can they prove it isn't round beyond saying, "NASA is lying and it's all a cover-up!"  As if, there's really some huge advantage to lying about the shape of the Earth.

You know, I mean... when you assume that the REAL experts in the field are a part of a conspiracy to spread misinformation, well, that leaves you subject to believe anything.  Can the FES prove it isn't a pyramid?

Um, you can easily prove it's round. GPS's work.

FE society destroyed in one two word sentence.

Well, to play devil's advocate, FE'ers don't really believe that there are satellites going around the earth.  All the signals we get on all our little gadgets come from control towers.  So, to them, Global positioning comes from radio towers.  Not sure how that works but... meh...
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: LinearPlane on November 16, 2011, 09:58:33 AM
i realized that i cant prove that it is round

I can, look:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

The problem is, they can't prove it's flat, nor can they prove it isn't round beyond saying, "NASA is lying and it's all a cover-up!"  As if, there's really some huge advantage to lying about the shape of the Earth.

You know, I mean... when you assume that the REAL experts in the field are a part of a conspiracy to spread misinformation, well, that leaves you subject to believe anything.  Can the FES prove it isn't a pyramid?

Um, you can easily prove it's round. GPS's work.

FE society destroyed in one two word sentence.

Well, to play devil's advocate, FE'ers don't really believe that there are satellites going around the earth.  All the signals we get on all our little gadgets come from control towers.  So, to them, Global positioning comes from radio towers.  Not sure how that works but... meh...

Yeah I realize they think it is towers and pseudolites, another made up thing because they got cornered. Yet another thing you can't see with a normal telescope.

It's real easy to examine the FREE code out there for creating GPS software and know GPS technology absolutely destroys this fake flat earth society.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Tom Bishop on November 16, 2011, 02:52:08 PM
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

What a nice two-dimensional circle. What is it?

Looks to me like north america wrapping around a sphere.  Observe the image below I just put together in Photoshop:

(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i464/Krista7714/3ESmall.jpg)

On the left is the picture you provided.  In the middle is a head-on satellite image of western North America.  It's the closest thing you'll find to a flat image of North America.  You'll see that it doesn't really resemble the first picture.  Now, for the 3rd picture, I took the head-on satellite image and adjusted the dimensions to make it look more similar to the first picture.  In order to do that, I rotated the map (to about the same degree as the Earth's "alleged" rotational axis), and scrunched it up in width, leaving the height alone.  Which... if North America was on a sphere that was rotating, away from the observer, that's exactly how it would look.

So, that piture proves to me the Earth is round.

And besides, I'm still waiting for someone to explain why you can see stars just over the horizon if the Earth were flat?  If it were flat, those stars would be behind the dark portion of the flat Earth, and thus not in sight, right?

Funny that there's not a single cloud in the sky over the entirely of North America in these "head-on" satellite images.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: El Cid on November 16, 2011, 03:00:53 PM
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

What a nice two-dimensional circle. What is it?

Looks to me like north america wrapping around a sphere.  Observe the image below I just put together in Photoshop:

(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i464/Krista7714/3ESmall.jpg)

On the left is the picture you provided.  In the middle is a head-on satellite image of western North America.  It's the closest thing you'll find to a flat image of North America.  You'll see that it doesn't really resemble the first picture.  Now, for the 3rd picture, I took the head-on satellite image and adjusted the dimensions to make it look more similar to the first picture.  In order to do that, I rotated the map (to about the same degree as the Earth's "alleged" rotational axis), and scrunched it up in width, leaving the height alone.  Which... if North America was on a sphere that was rotating, away from the observer, that's exactly how it would look.

So, that piture proves to me the Earth is round.

And besides, I'm still waiting for someone to explain why you can see stars just over the horizon if the Earth were flat?  If it were flat, those stars would be behind the dark portion of the flat Earth, and thus not in sight, right?

Funny that there's not a single cloud in the sky over the entirely of North America in these "head-on" satellite images.
I don't think it's funny.  Especially not when they take satellite photographs when there are no clouds.  Either way, definitely not funny.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Ski on November 16, 2011, 06:21:23 PM

Funny that there's not a single cloud in the sky over the entirely of North America in these "head-on" satellite images.

Not to mention how easy it was to distort North America to make it look like it might on a sphere.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 16, 2011, 07:09:05 PM

Funny that there's not a single cloud in the sky over the entirely of North America in these "head-on" satellite images.

Not to mention how easy it was to distort North America to make it look like it might on a sphere.

Yeah, I rotated the image.  Kinda like... what happens when the actual continent goes around on the face of the earth as IT rotates.  It was a lot easier than trying to stretch Australia, Africa and South America twice as wide as it should be and then passing it off as, "oh, unproven EAT proves this crap."  Trust me, NASA is full of it.  MY doctored pictures are the REAL deal.

Besides... that picture was introduced to this forum by a FE believer.  How come a picture is admissible if it supports FET, but when I prove it actually supports RET, all of a sudden it's a fabrication.  Either believe it's a hoax or not.  It's not a hoax when it's convenient for you.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Ski on November 16, 2011, 09:41:38 PM
You simply showed how easy it is to take a flat ("head on") picture of a land mass and make it appear to be on a sphere. Everyone already knows this, I suspect, but it was nice of you to provide an example.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 17, 2011, 06:59:06 AM
You simply showed how easy it is to take a flat ("head on") picture of a land mass and make it appear to be on a sphere. Everyone already knows this, I suspect, but it was nice of you to provide an example.

Now, I can't help you if you're not willing to help yourself.

That is exactly what i did.  I showed how the flat picture (which isn't actually flat, you're looking down on a convex land mass) is actually on the face of a sphere by rotating the picture and comparing that to the rotated portion of that area of the sphere!  All the while, using a picture provided by a FE Theorist!!!  What's the problem???  I don't see any FE'ers taking a deformed version of a southern continent and showing how that makes sense on a satellite image...  I'm taking a REAL picture and showing how it fits in a REAL scenario.  And you're using that to prove it could have been photoshopped???  But, the image that was supposed to have been photoshopped was introduced as legitimate by a FE believer!!!  Is the photo real or not???

The picture of the globe is not fabricated.  An example of a digitally fabricated picture of the Earth is this:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-EiaIHMcIlpc/TmopqTOh8OI/AAAAAAAAAmA/nogHk_Szs5A/s1600/modern+flat+earth+map.png)
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: LinearPlane on November 18, 2011, 12:39:27 PM

Funny that there's not a single cloud in the sky over the entirely of North America in these "head-on" satellite images.

Not to mention how easy it was to distort North America to make it look like it might on a sphere.

Um hate to break it to you but there are independent companies who do sat imaging not related to NASA. Again, FET destroyed.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Copernicious on November 19, 2011, 05:20:56 PM
Another problem about satellites:

See the following image:
http://www.astra-aps.de/worldskies/satellites/footprints/NSS-5-340E-Global.jpg

It is the footprint (area of reception) of NSS-5, located @ 20 degrees West, supposedly above the Equator. The picture uses a flat projection (Mercator?) of an assumed spherical Earth. Due to the projection, the boundary looks like a "squircle" - the same image projected on a sphere would show the boundary as a true circle. Projecting it on the disc map commonly used on this forum, yields a completely nondescript shape.

This particular radio source (satellite? tower?) radiates nearly omnidirectionally, so if from a point on Earth, you have a line of sight to it, then a big-enough dish should allow you to receive the signal. Hence the distinctive perimeter shape (to which all other supposed satellite signals tend to converge - often, a more directional beam, when mapped, will look like it is "cut off" by this shape) - at the perimeter, the radio source can be seen touching the horizon; and crossing the perimeter causes it to drop below the horizon, preventing further reception.

My question is: Why is the shape of the perimeter (the curve at which the radio source appears to touch the horizon) shaped the way it is?

If we assume that the Earth is round, then we can easily explain it as an object in geosynchronous orbit (a satellite) emitting the signal. Any point-like object that emits radiation isotropically will always light up an area on any nearby sphere that will be bounded by a circle. The relative radius of the bounding circle is a function of the radius of the sphere, and the distance between the emitter and the center of the sphere.

However, on a flat Earth, we get no such model. Instead, translating the above image onto the disc map will yield a footprint with a perimeter that is impossible to achieve with a single emitter. (Remember, it is not enough to just lose signal exactly at the perimeter - the cause of the signal loss must be the radio source going below the horizon, for the theory to be consistent with observation.) The idea of multiple emitters may come up, but it is easily disproven by the fact that there are no reports of geographical fluctuations/discontinuities in the received signal strength of this source.
(On top of that, I suspect that not even multiple emitters can yield the above footprint on a flat disk.)

EDIT: Here is another radio source showing the same footprint: http://staging.satbeams.com/footprints?beam=6321
(The map projection is different, but it is the same basic footprint.)

Unlike the other one, this "satellite" broadcasts a continuous DVB-T transmission of Benin's Canal 3 TV channel, so it should be easier to confirm.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: EmperorZhark on November 20, 2011, 03:22:33 AM
You have question, right.

But you don't have answers. Is it enough for doubting the existence of satellites?
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on November 20, 2011, 07:00:17 PM
Another problem about satellites:

See the following image:
http://www.astra-aps.de/worldskies/satellites/footprints/NSS-5-340E-Global.jpg

It is the footprint (area of reception) of NSS-5, located @ 20 degrees West, supposedly above the Equator. The picture uses a flat projection (Mercator?) of an assumed spherical Earth. Due to the projection, the boundary looks like a "squircle" - the same image projected on a sphere would show the boundary as a true circle. Projecting it on the disc map commonly used on this forum, yields a completely nondescript shape.

This particular radio source (satellite? tower?) radiates nearly omnidirectionally, so if from a point on Earth, you have a line of sight to it, then a big-enough dish should allow you to receive the signal. Hence the distinctive perimeter shape (to which all other supposed satellite signals tend to converge - often, a more directional beam, when mapped, will look like it is "cut off" by this shape) - at the perimeter, the radio source can be seen touching the horizon; and crossing the perimeter causes it to drop below the horizon, preventing further reception.

My question is: Why is the shape of the perimeter (the curve at which the radio source appears to touch the horizon) shaped the way it is?

If we assume that the Earth is round, then we can easily explain it as an object in geosynchronous orbit (a satellite) emitting the signal. Any point-like object that emits radiation isotropically will always light up an area on any nearby sphere that will be bounded by a circle. The relative radius of the bounding circle is a function of the radius of the sphere, and the distance between the emitter and the center of the sphere.

However, on a flat Earth, we get no such model. Instead, translating the above image onto the disc map will yield a footprint with a perimeter that is impossible to achieve with a single emitter. (Remember, it is not enough to just lose signal exactly at the perimeter - the cause of the signal loss must be the radio source going below the horizon, for the theory to be consistent with observation.) The idea of multiple emitters may come up, but it is easily disproven by the fact that there are no reports of geographical fluctuations/discontinuities in the received signal strength of this source.
(On top of that, I suspect that not even multiple emitters can yield the above footprint on a flat disk.)

EDIT: Here is another radio source showing the same footprint: http://staging.satbeams.com/footprints?beam=6321
(The map projection is different, but it is the same basic footprint.)

Unlike the other one, this "satellite" broadcasts a continuous DVB-T transmission of Benin's Canal 3 TV channel, so it should be easier to confirm.

I'm not really sure if you're a RE'er or a FE'er... but, the reason for the squircle is that, like how the mercator map forces you to stretch the polar regions, the circle shape it would project has to be stretched at the top and bottom.  When you keep the integrity of the middle of a circle and stretch the top and bottom, you get this squircle shape. 
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Copernicious on November 21, 2011, 03:06:46 AM
Yes, I understand why it is a squircle - I merely pointed it out that the weird shape (squircle) has a logical explanation; it's a circle when projected on a spherical surface.

My question was to FEers / those denying the existence of satellites - the boundary being a squircle in a flat (Mercator? Cylinder?) projection is consistent with a satellite radio source orbiting around a globe (round Earth), possibly also with a satellite hovering in circles above a flat plane (flat Earth, with satellites possible - not sure about this), but not with the signal coming from ground sources fixed to a flat plane (flat Earth model with no spaceflight and ground pseudolites).
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: snipez on November 25, 2011, 03:22:16 AM
i realized that i cant prove that it is round

I can, look:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/earth/apollo16_earth_northamerica.jpg

The problem is, they can't prove it's flat, nor can they prove it isn't round beyond saying, "NASA is lying and it's all a cover-up!"  As if, there's really some huge advantage to lying about the shape of the Earth.

You know, I mean... when you assume that the REAL experts in the field are a part of a conspiracy to spread misinformation, well, that leaves you subject to believe anything.  Can the FES prove it isn't a pyramid?

advantage?

to remove GOD from this world you retard

that is the main objective

same with evolution

next time use your brain instead of spouting nasa BS.

I'm sick and tired of you people who are so lazy you just find some stupid link and say it proves something. Where is your research proving the earth is round? See, it's easier for your little brain to use someone else's theory or rather picture. In your small mind you hope you will change people's minds by posting fake photos.

A picture proves nothing.  Denying doesn't change reality.

Why are you here if you do not believe? This site isn't called The Round Earth Society. If you have proof that you obtained yourself maybe we can talk. Until then why don't you go jerk off some-more to all the nasa pictures that seem to give you a hard-on.

The people in charge of this world trick alot of people with their lies. But they make it easy for people with open minds because 100% of what they tell the public are lies. So in simple terms it's usually the opposite of what is sold to the public.

Round earth?

LIES

What's the opposite? FLAT

In my life I enjoy questioning things. Not bent over and salivating at what is coming up the rear.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: NoFlatChicks on November 25, 2011, 01:05:38 PM
I don't know or care what side snipez is on because I didn't bother to read it, because if your post contains the word "retard", then your argument is invalid.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 25, 2011, 07:04:13 PM
I don't know or care what side snipez is on because I didn't bother to read it, because if your post contains the word "retard", then your argument is invalid.


Let me try,  2 subracted from 13 equals 11 Retard.......didnt work, its still fact.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: NoFlatChicks on November 25, 2011, 07:39:42 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 25, 2011, 09:49:03 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: NoFlatChicks on November 26, 2011, 11:44:09 AM
I'll take this one back.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: PizzaPlanet on November 26, 2011, 12:11:52 PM
I'm not certain what it means for someone to "retard [your] posting habits"
Oh, I'll be happy to help!

In British English:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/retard_1?q=retard
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/retard_1

In American English:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/american-english/retard
http://oaadonline.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/retard
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: EmperorZhark on November 28, 2011, 03:04:55 PM
I'm not certain what it means for someone to "retard [your] posting habits"
Oh, I'll be happy to help!

In British English:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/retard_1?q=retard
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/retard_1

In American English:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/american-english/retard
http://oaadonline.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/retard

Still patronizing?
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 28, 2011, 03:48:34 PM
I'm not certain what it means for someone to "retard [your] posting habits"
Oh, I'll be happy to help!

In British English:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/retard_1?q=retard
http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/retard_1

In American English:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/american-english/retard
http://oaadonline.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/retard

Still patronizing?


Still kind enough to explain simple english words to those not keen enough to look them up themselves.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: jraffield1 on November 28, 2011, 08:35:26 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

Hypocrite much. You got mad at me when I made fun of the guy who Neil Armstrong assassinated, and now you spout this.

Time to grow up I do believe.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: El Cid on November 28, 2011, 08:45:08 PM
advantage?

to remove GOD from this world you retard

that is the main objective

same with evolution
Evolution shows us that man cannot be separated from the universe.  That we are a part of the universe, and we are something that the universe is doing, is making, every moment, physics and chemistry keep us alive, the same as everything else, that we are not just some freak of nature, a terrible accident, or something silly like that.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 28, 2011, 08:47:50 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

Hypocrite much. You got mad at me when I made fun of the guy who Neil Armstrong assassinated, and now you spout this.

Time to grow up I do believe.


Neil Armstrong did not  assasinate Grissom.  Your poor attempt at humor in that thread did not retard my posting habits, I simply said that if your take the deaths of others as something  to laugh at then you might be better speaking to someone else who's humor  agrees with your own twisted sense.  Now you tell me to grow up, you call me a hypocrite.  Please dear fellow, be careful, once contempt for another takes hold, it may cause one to act in ways they otherwise would not.  This coupled with victim sentiment will also allow for the personal justification of all behaviour, no matter how hienous.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: jraffield1 on November 28, 2011, 08:53:57 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

Hypocrite much. You got mad at me when I made fun of the guy who Neil Armstrong assassinated, and now you spout this.

Time to grow up I do believe.


Neil Armstrong did not  assasinate Grissom.  Your poor attempt at humor in that thread did not retard my posting habits, I simply said that if your take the deaths of others as something  to laugh at then you might be better speaking to someone else who's humor  agrees with your own twisted sense.  Now you tell me to grow up, you call me a hypocrite.  Please dear fellow, be careful, once contempt for another takes hold, it may cause one to act in ways they otherwise would not.  This coupled with victim sentiment will also allow for the personal justification of all behaviour, no matter how hienous.

Just as you don't "retard" your posts because of others, I similarly don't "retard" my humor. That's another thing that is unclear to me, what do you mean by "retard" in this context, change? slow down?

Lol I still view you the same way as when we first spoke, there is no contempt, there are bits of humor at your expense I'll admit... and quite frankly I don't care enough about your feelings to change the way I act. But that having been said, I do enjoy our discussions and look forward to nonsense flying everywhere  ;D
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 28, 2011, 09:09:54 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

Hypocrite much. You got mad at me when I made fun of the guy who Neil Armstrong assassinated, and now you spout this.

Time to grow up I do believe.


Neil Armstrong did not  assasinate Grissom.  Your poor attempt at humor in that thread did not retard my posting habits, I simply said that if your take the deaths of others as something  to laugh at then you might be better speaking to someone else who's humor  agrees with your own twisted sense.  Now you tell me to grow up, you call me a hypocrite.  Please dear fellow, be careful, once contempt for another takes hold, it may cause one to act in ways they otherwise would not.  This coupled with victim sentiment will also allow for the personal justification of all behaviour, no matter how hienous.

Just as you don't "retard" your posts because of others, I similarly don't "retard" my humor. That's another thing that is unclear to me, what do you mean by "retard" in this context, change? slow down?

Lol I still view you the same way as when we first spoke, there is no contempt, there are bits of humor at your expense I'll admit... and quite frankly I don't care enough about your feelings to change the way I act. But that having been said, I do enjoy our discussions and look forward to nonsense flying everywhere  ;D

You do exhibit a habit of placing  words in others mouths.  I never said I retard myself so I can rightly understand your expressed confusion.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: jraffield1 on November 28, 2011, 09:12:13 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

I put the evidence in bold.  ;D
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 28, 2011, 09:30:38 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

I put the evidence in bold.  ;D

Thank you but I didnt need the  evidence brought forth to prove you wrong.  I was clearly speaking of others concerns and  interests retarding my posting habits and not myself retarding my posting habits so we can lay yet another one of your semantic  escapades to rest.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: jraffield1 on November 28, 2011, 09:31:52 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

I put the evidence in bold.  ;D

Thank you but I didnt need the  evidence brought forth to prove you wrong.  I was clearly speaking of others concerns and  interests retarding my posting habits and not myself retarding my posting habits so we can lay yet another one of your semantic  escapades to rest.

Retard your posts if you must, I am off to bed.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on November 28, 2011, 09:40:48 PM
I don't really know or care what you just said


I dont expect you to know or care.  You, or anybody elses concern is beyond my consideration.  My comments and ideas are not dictated by anyones personal interests.  I will not allow others lack of caring to retard my posting habits.

I put the evidence in bold.  ;D

Thank you but I didnt need the  evidence brought forth to prove you wrong.  I was clearly speaking of others concerns and  interests retarding my posting habits and not myself retarding my posting habits so we can lay yet another one of your semantic  escapades to rest.

Retard your posts if you must, I am off to bed.

What part of the eastern U.S do you reside?
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: TonySonofGawain on December 05, 2011, 08:13:41 AM
Wow! Its amazing how easily everyone is swayed from the topic (ON BOTH SIDES!) just because of a few insults. Ive been trying to read the threads with the most interesting titles just because there are so many but it seems that most of them are packed with people fighting like children. Make me laugh.  ;D
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on December 05, 2011, 08:54:30 AM
Wow! Its amazing how easily everyone is swayed from the topic (ON BOTH SIDES!) just because of a few insults. Ive been trying to read the threads with the most interesting titles just because there are so many but it seems that most of them are packed with people fighting like children. Make me laugh.  ;D


I suppose you have evidence for this outlandish claim?
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: TonySonofGawain on December 05, 2011, 11:15:47 AM
Wow! Its amazing how easily everyone is swayed from the topic (ON BOTH SIDES!) just because of a few insults. Ive been trying to read the threads with the most interesting titles just because there are so many but it seems that most of them are packed with people fighting like children. Make me laugh.  ;D


I suppose you have evidence for this outlandish claim?
With all due respect, the evidence is in the last few pages and name calling is the least of it. What really makes me laugh is that 'snipez' fellow who basically insults people, sticks out his tongue and then runs away with no intention of debating the things he says (& has done the same thing in a few other threads Ive come across). Very childish if you ask me. You seemed to support him too, ripping off that poor fellow who didnt understand the context in which you used the word 'retard'. I understand if you were just having a bit of fun but in the end it seemed like intellectual bullying. This surprised me as all the other posts of yours that I have read seem very polite and well structured. Am I wrong?
The main reason for my comment, however, is that the topic is "Spooky Stuff" and there has been very little discussion about that particular subject matter (even though the original person was talking about the 'spookiness' of his confusion in what to believe). The interesting title was, as I said before, the reason I was initially interested in this thread.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: TonySonofGawain on December 05, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
Oh, and a very similiar thing happens in most of the other threads (deviation from the subject matter I mean) but I guess that the contraversial subject matter of FE theory itself tends to get people all 'hot under the collar' as they say. I just wish people could be civil and actually talk to each other rather than angrily playing intellectual tennis and then losing the ball entirely.  ;D

Oh, and perhaps you can help me, I'm a so-called noob and Im trying to figure out how to keep track of my posts. Is there an easy way of doing this?

Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on December 06, 2011, 07:01:16 AM
Oh, and a very similiar thing happens in most of the other threads (deviation from the subject matter I mean) but I guess that the contraversial subject matter of FE theory itself tends to get people all 'hot under the collar' as they say. I just wish people could be civil and actually talk to each other rather than angrily playing intellectual tennis and then losing the ball entirely.  ;D

Oh, and perhaps you can help me, I'm a so-called noob and Im trying to figure out how to keep track of my posts. Is there an easy way of doing this?

There is a small icon appearing on the threads you have posts in.  Also, try unread replies, this should be near the top right of your screen.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on December 06, 2011, 07:07:07 AM
Wow! Its amazing how easily everyone is swayed from the topic (ON BOTH SIDES!) just because of a few insults. Ive been trying to read the threads with the most interesting titles just because there are so many but it seems that most of them are packed with people fighting like children. Make me laugh.  ;D


I suppose you have evidence for this outlandish claim?
With all due respect, the evidence is in the last few pages and name calling is the least of it. What really makes me laugh is that 'snipez' fellow who basically insults people, sticks out his tongue and then runs away with no intention of debating the things he says (& has done the same thing in a few other threads Ive come across). Very childish if you ask me. You seemed to support him too, ripping off that poor fellow who didnt understand the context in which you used the word 'retard'. I understand if you were just having a bit of fun but in the end it seemed like intellectual bullying. This surprised me as all the other posts of yours that I have read seem very polite and well structured. Am I wrong?
The main reason for my comment, however, is that the topic is "Spooky Stuff" and there has been very little discussion about that particular subject matter (even though the original person was talking about the 'spookiness' of his confusion in what to believe). The interesting title was, as I said before, the reason I was initially interested in this thread.

Good fellow, I can assure you that the poster in question, ''noflatchicks'', was attempting to be condescending and speak down to people here.  Then he posted a rather unlettered comment about the word, ''retard'' which in his shoebox of a world he occupies simply thinks the word means a person of metal handicap.  He set himself up for this with his condescending matter.  Truth is, he had no backing for acting superior, I simply put it out there for all to see.  The poster has since left.  Thank you for noticing my eloquent polite manner, most will not admit it and there is also an anti-Archibald sentiment growing endogenously within some of the dissaffected posters.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: TonySonofGawain on December 06, 2011, 08:44:15 AM
Wow! Its amazing how easily everyone is swayed from the topic (ON BOTH SIDES!) just because of a few insults. Ive been trying to read the threads with the most interesting titles just because there are so many but it seems that most of them are packed with people fighting like children. Make me laugh.  ;D


I suppose you have evidence for this outlandish claim?
With all due respect, the evidence is in the last few pages and name calling is the least of it. What really makes me laugh is that 'snipez' fellow who basically insults people, sticks out his tongue and then runs away with no intention of debating the things he says (& has done the same thing in a few other threads Ive come across). Very childish if you ask me. You seemed to support him too, ripping off that poor fellow who didnt understand the context in which you used the word 'retard'. I understand if you were just having a bit of fun but in the end it seemed like intellectual bullying. This surprised me as all the other posts of yours that I have read seem very polite and well structured. Am I wrong?
The main reason for my comment, however, is that the topic is "Spooky Stuff" and there has been very little discussion about that particular subject matter (even though the original person was talking about the 'spookiness' of his confusion in what to believe). The interesting title was, as I said before, the reason I was initially interested in this thread.

Good fellow, I can assure you that the poster in question, ''noflatchicks'', was attempting to be condescending and speak down to people here.  Then he posted a rather unlettered comment about the word, ''retard'' which in his shoebox of a world he occupies simply thinks the word means a person of metal handicap.  He set himself up for this with his condescending matter.  Truth is, he had no backing for acting superior, I simply put it out there for all to see.  The poster has since left.  Thank you for noticing my eloquent polite manner, most will not admit it and there is also an anti-Archibald sentiment growing endogenously within some of the dissaffected posters.

Ok, but what about snipez? He comments were both rude and condescending, not to mention obscene ... surely he broke all of the rules? Why was he not at least reprimanded? If I was a moderator I might have even kicked him out altogether as it is obvious that he does want to discuss his views (at least with non FE'ers).
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: TonySonofGawain on December 06, 2011, 08:51:53 AM
Oh and thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on December 06, 2011, 11:40:33 AM
Wow! Its amazing how easily everyone is swayed from the topic (ON BOTH SIDES!) just because of a few insults. Ive been trying to read the threads with the most interesting titles just because there are so many but it seems that most of them are packed with people fighting like children. Make me laugh.  ;D


I suppose you have evidence for this outlandish claim?
With all due respect, the evidence is in the last few pages and name calling is the least of it. What really makes me laugh is that 'snipez' fellow who basically insults people, sticks out his tongue and then runs away with no intention of debating the things he says (& has done the same thing in a few other threads Ive come across). Very childish if you ask me. You seemed to support him too, ripping off that poor fellow who didnt understand the context in which you used the word 'retard'. I understand if you were just having a bit of fun but in the end it seemed like intellectual bullying. This surprised me as all the other posts of yours that I have read seem very polite and well structured. Am I wrong?
The main reason for my comment, however, is that the topic is "Spooky Stuff" and there has been very little discussion about that particular subject matter (even though the original person was talking about the 'spookiness' of his confusion in what to believe). The interesting title was, as I said before, the reason I was initially interested in this thread.

Good fellow, I can assure you that the poster in question, ''noflatchicks'', was attempting to be condescending and speak down to people here.  Then he posted a rather unlettered comment about the word, ''retard'' which in his shoebox of a world he occupies simply thinks the word means a person of metal handicap.  He set himself up for this with his condescending matter.  Truth is, he had no backing for acting superior, I simply put it out there for all to see.  The poster has since left.  Thank you for noticing my eloquent polite manner, most will not admit it and there is also an anti-Archibald sentiment growing endogenously within some of the dissaffected posters.

Ok, but what about snipez? He comments were both rude and condescending, not to mention obscene ... surely he broke all of the rules? Why was he not at least reprimanded? If I was a moderator I might have even kicked him out altogether as it is obvious that he does want to discuss his views (at least with non FE'ers).

I havent paid any attention to the poster snipez, I was just addressing your concerns about my deviation from being polite and formal.  Npflatchicks had it coming, now he's gone.  As for the insults, some of the boards are more heavily moderated than others but you will soon notice that there is lack of professionalism and consistency within the MOD staff.  There are some that are good mods, but one in particular seems to be as whimsical as a sophmore girl picking out a homecoming dress.  Im certain that as long as snipez keeps his insults out of FE  debate, and SC, he will not be banned.  Oh and so long as he stays away from the third rail (KFC).
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: BluePear on December 06, 2011, 07:41:52 PM
a flat Earth....
i thought at first that your all full of crap. but then i realized that i cant prove that it is round. but i also cant prove that its flat either. i don't know what to think!
all the research i do to find this stuff out could be fake. i don't know whats right or wrong anymore!!!

There is a very simple test to show the curvature of the earth. Watch a ship as it sails off into the distance, if the world were flat the ship would become smaller and smaller until it disappeared however, this is not the case. What actually happens is the hull of the ship appears to be engulfed by the water rising upwards eventually swallowing the mast and the sail. This proves the earth is an oblate spheroid as you can observe this at any point on the earth.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Archibald on December 06, 2011, 07:45:43 PM
a flat Earth....
i thought at first that your all full of crap. but then i realized that i cant prove that it is round. but i also cant prove that its flat either. i don't know what to think!
all the research i do to find this stuff out could be fake. i don't know whats right or wrong anymore!!!

There is a very simple test to show the curvature of the earth. Watch a ship as it sails off into the distance, if the world were flat the ship would become smaller and smaller until it disappeared however, this is not the case. What actually happens is the hull of the ship appears to be engulfed by the water rising upwards eventually swallowing the mast and the sail. This proves the earth is an oblate spheroid as you can observe this at any point on the earth.

Incorrect, but common misconception.  There are numerous threads which explain why this happens.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: jraffield1 on December 06, 2011, 07:49:54 PM
a flat Earth....
i thought at first that your all full of crap. but then i realized that i cant prove that it is round. but i also cant prove that its flat either. i don't know what to think!
all the research i do to find this stuff out could be fake. i don't know whats right or wrong anymore!!!

There is a very simple test to show the curvature of the earth. Watch a ship as it sails off into the distance, if the world were flat the ship would become smaller and smaller until it disappeared however, this is not the case. What actually happens is the hull of the ship appears to be engulfed by the water rising upwards eventually swallowing the mast and the sail. This proves the earth is an oblate spheroid as you can observe this at any point on the earth.

Incorrect, but common misconception.  There are numerous threads which explain why this happens.

Yes, and they all rely on incorrect perspective laws (the conman Rowbotham) or unproven physics (bendy light). So don't get your hopes up.  ::)
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on August 20, 2012, 01:28:55 PM
a flat Earth....
i thought at first that your all full of crap. but then i realized that i cant prove that it is round. but i also cant prove that its flat either. i don't know what to think!
all the research i do to find this stuff out could be fake. i don't know whats right or wrong anymore!!!

There is a very simple test to show the curvature of the earth. Watch a ship as it sails off into the distance, if the world were flat the ship would become smaller and smaller until it disappeared however, this is not the case. What actually happens is the hull of the ship appears to be engulfed by the water rising upwards eventually swallowing the mast and the sail. This proves the earth is an oblate spheroid as you can observe this at any point on the earth.

Incorrect, but common misconception.  There are numerous threads which explain why this happens.

So, why don't YOU enlighten us with your incorrect and unproven explanations on bendy light for us?  I don't understand this whole thing where... just because a topic was covered in a forum before, the question can't be raised again.  You are, for all intents and purposes, the BEST repository for this fake pseudo-science.  One would think you would bend over backwards to explain to us WHY a ship doesn't get smaller and smaller until it disappears, rather it goes over the curviture of the Earth rather than just saying, "This has already been covered..." and expect us to go through pages and pages and pages of forums to find the answers.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: Cat Earth Theory on August 20, 2012, 01:57:54 PM
Archibald has since admitted to being a troll and said he was leaving the forums for good.  He also posted some pictures of his gross mug.  It was gross.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: KristaGurl on August 21, 2012, 06:37:55 AM
Archibald has since admitted to being a troll and said he was leaving the forums for good.  He also posted some pictures of his gross mug.  It was gross.

Oh, damn.  Because, I thought that these guys didn't want people asking questions that had been asked in previous forums... so, I tried to go to an old forum full of people who don't exist anymore.
Title: Re: Spooky stuff
Post by: professor on August 28, 2012, 07:47:46 PM
Archibald has since admitted to being a troll and said he was leaving the forums for good.  He also posted some pictures of his gross mug.  It was gross.
he was sent by NASA