The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: klandri on April 12, 2011, 05:48:57 PM
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Should be Flat Earth Hypothesis. Same goes for most "theories" involved with Flat Earth.
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I will notify the High Command immediately.
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Should be Flat Earth Hypothesis. Same goes for most "theories" involved with Flat Earth.
Just like evolution.
From this point forward all theories shall now be call hypotheses.
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Should be Flat Earth Hypothesis. Same goes for most "theories" involved with Flat Earth.
Just like evolution.
From this point forward all theories shall now be call hypotheses.
Sorry, but no. A hypothesis is a testable belief. Evolution is a theory, which is a tested, proven, and not unproven belief (If there is evidence to the contrary, it is not a theory).
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"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."
Charles Darwin, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life,"
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"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."
Charles Darwin, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life,"
So how many times have you posted that quote-mined piece here before? Five, six times?
Intellectual dishonesty is not very becoming Wardogg.
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Should be Flat Earth Hypothesis. Same goes for most "theories" involved with Flat Earth.
Just like evolution.
From this point forward all theories shall now be call hypotheses.
Evolution is not even a hypotheses, its a straight lie.
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Wardogg is just another hardcore conservative ideologue with as much credibility as New Earth but less entertainment value. A sad combination, indeed. :'(
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"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree."
Charles Darwin, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life,"
So how many times have you posted that quote-mined piece here before? Five, six times?
Intellectual dishonesty is not very becoming Wardogg.
Actually its the first, thank you very much.
Wardogg is just another hardcore conservative ideologue with as much credibility as New Earth but less entertainment value. A sad combination, indeed. :'(
You got me all figured out don't you new guy.
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I don't consider that Darwin quote a quote-mine. Darwin did give some fleeting possible explanations for the evolution of the eye in his paragraph after that one, but he still said that quoted paragraph none the less.
Here's the full quote:
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.
Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real."
Notice the last line: can hardly be considered real
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I don't consider that Darwin quote a quote-mine. Darin did give some fleeting possible explanations for the evolution of the eye in his paragraph after that one, but he still said that quoted paragraph none the less.
Here's the full quote:
"To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.
Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real."
Notice the last line: can hardly be considered real
I think the "can hardly be considered real" was referring to the "difficulty of believing".
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Wardogg is just another hardcore conservative ideologue with as much credibility as New Earth but less entertainment value. A sad combination, indeed. :'(
Oh so I have no credibility? Hey buddy if you think I'm entertaining, pay me, in this country entrainment cost money you bootlegger. lol
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You got me all figured out don't you new guy.
Yes, it really wasn't difficult at all, old guy.
New Earth, you know I kid, we have some great laughs together, you and I.
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You got me all figured out don't you new guy.
Yes, it really wasn't difficult at all, old guy.
New Earth, you know I kid, we have some great laughs together, you and I.
How do you know we did if we never saw each other or met one another in real life?
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You got me all figured out don't you new guy.
Yes, it really wasn't difficult at all, old guy.
New Earth, you know I kid, we have some great laughs together, you and I.
How do you know we did if we never saw each other or met one another in real life?
He knows.
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You got me all figured out don't you new guy.
Yes, it really wasn't difficult at all, old guy.
New Earth, you know I kid, we have some great laughs together, you and I.
How do you know we did if we never saw each other or met one another in real life?
He knows.
Oh so he must be a psycho, I'm sorry I meant psychic. lol
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I don't consider that Darwin quote a quote-mine. Darwin did give some fleeting possible explanations for the evolution of the eye in his paragraph after that one, but he still said that quoted paragraph none the less.
I stated it was a quote mine because Wardogg posted it as to undermine the validity of Evolution, by acting as though even Darwin believes it is ludicrous, when in fact the quote in-context shows that Evolution would seem ludicrous to those that misunderstand evolution. The example he gives is a full functioning eye magically appearing in one generation.
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Exactly, its not testable, you can't observe it.
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Exactly, its not testable, you can't observe it.
Exactly. Nobody's ever seen evolution.
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Really? Damn. My degrees in microbiology and genetics are going to be useless now!
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Exactly, its not testable, you can't observe it.
Exactly. Nobody's ever seen evolution.
Yup and that's what I have been arguing on this forum. In return they presented no counter argument besides harassment.
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Really? Damn. My degrees in microbiology and genetics are going to be useless now!
If you have those degrees why don't you have a job?
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Exactly, its not testable, you can't observe it.
Exactly. Nobody's ever seen evolution.
Yup and that's what I have been arguing on this forum. In return they presented no counter argument besides harassment.
I am impressed by your wisdom, and am truly sorry if you saw their arguments as harassment. I understand that some people can't handle spirited debate, which unfortunately is what people seem to constantly want to engage in here.
Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Really? Damn. My degrees in microbiology and genetics are going to be useless now!
If you have those degrees why don't you have a job?
Er.
You don't consider this remark to be harassment? ???
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Really? Damn. My degrees in microbiology and genetics are going to be useless now!
If you have those degrees why don't you have a job?
When have I ever stated I do not? ???
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Really? Damn. My degrees in microbiology and genetics are going to be useless now!
If you have those degrees why don't you have a job?
When have I ever stated I do not? ???
Well you are here every day at all times of day and night, so I figure you may be unemployed?
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Really? Damn. My degrees in microbiology and genetics are going to be useless now!
If you have those degrees why don't you have a job?
When have I ever stated I do not? ???
Well you are here every day at all times of day and night, so I figure you may be unemployed?
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If you compare my time here to total time online, I only spend about 6% of my day here. That is like a hour and a half a day.
I spend so much time here! It is like a second job!
A mod should give New Earth a stern warning about this harassment I am receiving from him.
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Don't worry about it. He already gave me a warning. I insulted you one time and your friend Roundy threatens to ban me, you insulted me since the very day I came here and nothing is being done about you. Fuck that shit. You don't need to ban me cause I won't be back.
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ITT:
BAWWWWW
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you can't observe it.
ob?serve
a : to watch carefully especially with attention to details or behavior for the purpose of arriving at a judgment
b : to make a scientific observation on or of
ob?ser?va?tion
a : an act of recognizing and noting a fact or occurrence
I observe transitional fossil species, therefore I observe (evidence of) evolution.
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I have observed both evolution and the flatness of the Earth.
/thread.
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Fluffy has spoken.
/forum.
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
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Sorry, but no. A hypothesis is a testable belief. Evolution is a theory, which is a tested, proven, and not unproven belief (If there is evidence to the contrary, it is not a theory).
See also: gravitation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation#Anomalies_and_discrepancies - evidence to the contrary
Also, please be sure to revise your definition of a theory: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/theory
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We just need 2 put some MUNAA PILLUUN and tadam, earth actually is flat.
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We just need 2 put some MUNAA PILLUUN and tadam, earth actually is flat.
Perkele!
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Exactly, its not testable, you can't observe it.
Exactly. Nobody's ever seen evolution.
Yup and that's what I have been arguing on this forum. In return they presented no counter argument besides harassment.
We see evolution all the time. Many illnesses evolve from year to year, which makes it impossible to create a vaccine for them. There are also superviruses, which have evolved to be immune to certain antibiotics. We've tested evolution on flies and other short-lived creatures.
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Exactly, its not testable, you can't observe it.
Exactly. Nobody's ever seen evolution.
Yup and that's what I have been arguing on this forum. In return they presented no counter argument besides harassment.
We see evolution all the time. Many illnesses evolve from year to year, which makes it impossible to create a vaccine for them. There are also superviruses, which have evolved to be immune to certain antibiotics. We've tested evolution on flies and other short-lived creatures.
Not to mention selective breeding of animals and plants.
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Evolution is really not even a hypothesis, as it's not testable.
Exactly, its not testable, you can't observe it.
Exactly. Nobody's ever seen evolution.
Yup and that's what I have been arguing on this forum. In return they presented no counter argument besides harassment.
We see evolution all the time. Many illnesses evolve from year to year, which makes it impossible to create a vaccine for them. There are also superviruses, which have evolved to be immune to certain antibiotics. We've tested evolution on flies and other short-lived creatures.
Not to mention selective breeding of animals and plants.
For example, cabbage evolving (not being cultivated) into broccoli and cauliflower over just the past few thousand years.
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
You probably drove across Kansas on I 70?
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You probably drove across Kansas on I 70?
I thought you were taking your ball and going home.
You don't need to ban me cause I won't be back.
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You probably drove across Kansas on I 70?
I thought you were taking your ball and going home.
You don't need to ban me cause I won't be back.
I'm home, I'm a flat earther.
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Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real."
Notice the last line: can hardly be considered real
And notice the subject: the difficulty of believing
Was Darwin always this keen on run-on sentences?
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It certainly isn't the easiest sentence to parse, so I don't blame Tom for doing so incorrectly at a glance. It actually reminds me of the often-convoluted prose of another 19th century figure.
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
Unless you have been to the edge or been into space (both of which appear to be impossible in FET), I don't think you can say that you've observed the flatness of the Earth.
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
Unless you have been to the edge or been into space (both of which appear to be impossible in FET), I don't think you can say that you've observed the flatness of the Earth.
I'm observing the flatness of the Earth right at this moment.
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I'm observing the flatness of the Earth right at this moment.
And which facts or occurences are you noting that lead you to the conclusion that the Earth is flat?
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
Unless you have been to the edge or been into space (both of which appear to be impossible in FET), I don't think you can say that you've observed the flatness of the Earth.
I'm observing the flatness of the Earth right at this moment.
Interesting. I thought that you would be observing the flatness of you display device at the moment that you were typing your response. *shrug*
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
Unless you have been to the edge or been into space (both of which appear to be impossible in FET), I don't think you can say that you've observed the flatness of the Earth.
I'm observing the flatness of the Earth right at this moment.
That is odd, as I am observing much roundness at the moment.
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
Unless you have been to the edge or been into space (both of which appear to be impossible in FET), I don't think you can say that you've observed the flatness of the Earth.
I'm observing the flatness of the Earth right at this moment.
That is odd, as I am observing much roundness at the moment.
wat?
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I have observed the flatness of the Earth.
How is that possible?
Through a lifetime of careful observation.
Unless you have been to the edge or been into space (both of which appear to be impossible in FET), I don't think you can say that you've observed the flatness of the Earth.
I'm observing the flatness of the Earth right at this moment.
That is odd, as I am observing much roundness at the moment.
wat?
I cannot see one single area of flatness outside.
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That is odd, as I am observing much roundness at the moment.
wat?
I cannot see one single area of flatness outside.
But you do see roundness?
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That is odd, as I am observing much roundness at the moment.
wat?
I cannot see one single area of flatness outside.
But you do see roundness?
Yes. It's neither flat, nor sharp.
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Arguing whether or not flatness or roundness is observed from the seat at your computer is just going to break down into pedantry and hyperbole.
I'm just saying it's impossible to conclusively do either.