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Title: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 23, 2011, 07:32:35 AM
I can't quite understand why people say that it is wrong for any reason other than the fact that they would never do it themselves... can someone actually give some good reasons?
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Wendy on February 23, 2011, 08:11:07 AM
No. It's hilarious trollbait, though.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 23, 2011, 08:11:46 AM
No. It's hilarious trollbait, though.
True, and for some reason I love arguing with trolls...
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: EnglshGentleman on February 23, 2011, 08:13:14 AM
We have only two users here that would even take the bait, and they haven't been really active lately.

That and their justification is that the bible says no no.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Marcus Aurelius on February 23, 2011, 08:21:41 AM
We have only two users here that would even take the bait, and they haven't been really active lately.

That and their justification is that the bible says no no.

Wardogg:  "But that's the old testament, haven't you been listening?"
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Weegee Board on February 23, 2011, 08:59:19 AM
A 3000-year-old book of questionable authenticity.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Chris Spaghetti on February 23, 2011, 09:07:57 AM
I tried to put together a Devil's advocate here but I couldn't find any decent arguments which couldn't be demolished by someone with the wit more than a 10 year old.

Including:
-"It's unnatural"
-"Causes a breakdown of the traditional family unit"
-"Where homosexuality is encouraged there is a worryingly low birth rate."
-"Causes an influx of cheesy musical theatre productions"
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Wendy on February 23, 2011, 09:59:00 AM
lol, we said arguments, not lies.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Beorn on February 23, 2011, 10:45:18 AM
-"Causes an influx of cheesy musical theatre productions"

that is a real concern though
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Weegee Board on February 23, 2011, 11:23:30 AM
Gay people also gave us Bohemian Rhapsody. So I'm cool w/ them.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Chris Spaghetti on February 23, 2011, 01:41:34 PM
There's a flimsy straw man if you want it.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Wendy on February 23, 2011, 03:19:15 PM
Not to mention that Bohemian Rhapsody isn't even very good.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: General Disarray on February 23, 2011, 03:48:44 PM
The earth is too crowded anyway, we need moar homos.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Weegee Board on February 23, 2011, 04:23:52 PM
Not to mention that Bohemian Rhapsody isn't even very good.

You're lying.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Tausami on February 23, 2011, 07:18:35 PM
Not to mention that Bohemian Rhapsody isn't even very good.

This is one of the few times an opinion can be wrong.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Particle Person on February 23, 2011, 07:34:05 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 23, 2011, 08:08:54 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Particle Person on February 23, 2011, 08:13:10 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 23, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.

"bible" is not a reason, specifics? I can tell you there are only about 6 verses that are against homosexuality and about 30 verses against heterosexuality (these numbers are the closest to the actual figures that I can remember, but I know that there's more against hetros than homos)
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Mr Pseudonym on February 23, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
Homosexuality is seen as bad between 2 guys, but lesbianism is seen as terrific.  I love the double standard.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Particle Person on February 23, 2011, 08:43:17 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.

"bible" is not a reason, specifics? I can tell you there are only about 6 verses that are against homosexuality and about 30 verses against heterosexuality (these numbers are the closest to the actual figures that I can remember, but I know that there's more against hetros than homos)

The Bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality. There are about 6 verses to confirm this.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 23, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.

"bible" is not a reason, specifics? I can tell you there are only about 6 verses that are against homosexuality and about 30 verses against heterosexuality (these numbers are the closest to the actual figures that I can remember, but I know that there's more against hetros than homos)

The Bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality. There are about 6 verses to confirm this.

And there are more verses saying that heterosexuality is bad, so how is homosexuality "wrong" and heterosexuality "right"
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Particle Person on February 23, 2011, 09:56:39 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.

"bible" is not a reason, specifics? I can tell you there are only about 6 verses that are against homosexuality and about 30 verses against heterosexuality (these numbers are the closest to the actual figures that I can remember, but I know that there's more against hetros than homos)

The Bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality. There are about 6 verses to confirm this.

And there are more verses saying that heterosexuality is bad, so how is homosexuality "wrong" and heterosexuality "right"

Neither are wrong or right, they're both natural.

homosexauls are fags and bible

This is a parody of religious gay bashers, sorry if that wasn't made clear.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Pongo on February 23, 2011, 09:58:42 PM
The only purpose of marriage is to produce kids.  Infertile couples should not be allowed to marry as well.  They end-game goal of the human race is to populate so much that we choke out all other life, including bacteria and viruses (if you consider them life, lolz) and then live forever as the supreme beings on the planet.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 23, 2011, 10:03:43 PM
The only purpose of marriage is to produce kids.  Infertile couples should not be allowed to marry as well.  They end-game goal of the human race is to populate so much that we choke out all other life, including bacteria and viruses (if you consider them life, lolz) and then live forever as the supreme beings on the planet.
I like that... explains society well
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Beorn on February 23, 2011, 11:00:27 PM
Homosexuality is seen as bad between 2 guys, but lesbianism is seen as terrific.  I love the double standard.

And only when the women are good looking.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: optimisticcynic on February 24, 2011, 09:14:21 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.

"bible" is not a reason, specifics? I can tell you there are only about 6 verses that are against homosexuality and about 30 verses against heterosexuality (these numbers are the closest to the actual figures that I can remember, but I know that there's more against hetros than homos)

The Bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality. There are about 6 verses to confirm this.
out of curiosity how many are from the new Testament?
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: parsec on February 24, 2011, 11:05:03 PM
AIDS
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Supertails on February 24, 2011, 11:54:00 PM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.

"bible" is not a reason, specifics? I can tell you there are only about 6 verses that are against homosexuality and about 30 verses against heterosexuality (these numbers are the closest to the actual figures that I can remember, but I know that there's more against hetros than homos)

The Bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality. There are about 6 verses to confirm this.
out of curiosity how many are from the new Testament?
Jesus and several others in the New Testament say the Old rules still apply.  Anyone who tries to weasel out of the Old by saying they follow the New needs to go back and actually read the books instead of trying to justify it.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 25, 2011, 01:16:31 AM
AIDS

if we were to pass laws that would get rid of AIDS then hetros would be outlawed too, and lesbianism would be promoted (not like it isn't already) AIDS is as much of a risk to straight people as it is to gays
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Wendy on February 25, 2011, 04:35:55 AM
AIDS

if we were to pass laws that would get rid of AIDS then hetros would be outlawed too, and lesbianism would be promoted (not like it isn't already) AIDS is as much of a risk to straight people as it is to gays

It's k, bro. This isn't the most serious thread.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: stume on February 25, 2011, 04:50:13 AM
AIDS

if we were to pass laws that would get rid of AIDS then hetros would be outlawed too, and lesbianism would be promoted (not like it isn't already) AIDS is as much of a risk to straight people as it is to gays

It's k, bro. This isn't the most serious thread.

I know, I wish it was though... we need moar trolls in this thread
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: parsec on February 25, 2011, 07:28:32 AM
AIDS

if we were to pass laws that would get rid of AIDS then hetros would be outlawed too, and lesbianism would be promoted (not like it isn't already) AIDS is as much of a risk to straight people as it is to gays

Now that homos have already spread it, yes, it is prevalent among heteros as well.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Beorn on February 25, 2011, 07:37:43 AM
AIDS

if we were to pass laws that would get rid of AIDS then hetros would be outlawed too, and lesbianism would be promoted (not like it isn't already) AIDS is as much of a risk to straight people as it is to gays

Now that homos have already spread it, yes, it is prevalent among heteros as well.

euh what?
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: parsec on February 25, 2011, 07:40:54 AM
AIDS

if we were to pass laws that would get rid of AIDS then hetros would be outlawed too, and lesbianism would be promoted (not like it isn't already) AIDS is as much of a risk to straight people as it is to gays

Now that homos have already spread it, yes, it is prevalent among heteros as well.

euh what?

GRIDS.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Wendy on February 25, 2011, 07:41:39 AM
I think we should still call it GRIDS, as an honour to the victims of the past.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Chris Spaghetti on February 25, 2011, 08:33:02 AM
It's true, homosexual couples often spread sexually transmitted diseases to heterosexual couples by means of... erm... magic AIDS bullets!
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: optimisticcynic on February 25, 2011, 09:33:32 AM
homosexauls are fags and bible

That doesn't sound like a reasoning

It's biblical reasoning.

"bible" is not a reason, specifics? I can tell you there are only about 6 verses that are against homosexuality and about 30 verses against heterosexuality (these numbers are the closest to the actual figures that I can remember, but I know that there's more against hetros than homos)

The Bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality. There are about 6 verses to confirm this.
out of curiosity how many are from the new Testament?
Jesus and several others in the New Testament say the Old rules still apply.  Anyone who tries to weasel out of the Old by saying they follow the New needs to go back and actually read the books instead of trying to justify it.
That was not actually my point. my point is that if all the laws about homosexuals come from the old testament and they are following those laws they must also follow these laws.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33726.0
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Supertails on February 25, 2011, 07:23:49 PM
Ahh, well played, I see your point and agree.  :D
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Tausami on February 25, 2011, 08:45:34 PM
And before we go any farther, I'd like to point out that 'sodomy' is gay sex, anal sex, oral sex, protected sex, bestiality, sex with someone who is known to be unfertile, masturbation, and any other form of sexual pleasure which does not have the ability to produce offspring.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Tausami on April 15, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
*bump*

I feel like arguing this, now that we have our trolls back.

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Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: New Earth on April 15, 2011, 05:08:24 PM
We have only two users here that would even take the bait, and they haven't been really active lately.

That and their justification is that the bible says no no.


The bible says no no, but you say yes yes? makes me wonder.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: General Disarray on April 15, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
We have only two users here that would even take the bait, and they haven't been really active lately.

That and their justification is that the bible says no no.


The bible says no no, but you say yes yes? makes me wonder.

But its the Old Testament that doesn't like homosexuality, none of that applies now.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: EnglshGentleman on April 15, 2011, 05:17:38 PM
We have only two users here that would even take the bait, and they haven't been really active lately.

That and their justification is that the bible says no no.


The bible says no no, but you say yes yes? makes me wonder.

When did I ever say, "yes yes". ???

Putting words in other people's mouths is intellectually dishonest.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Trekky0623 on April 15, 2011, 05:21:25 PM
This thread is gay.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Tausami on April 15, 2011, 05:43:56 PM
We have only two users here that would even take the bait, and they haven't been really active lately.

That and their justification is that the bible says no no.


The bible says no no, but you say yes yes? makes me wonder.

The Bible says no to sodomy. Big difference.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Tausami on April 15, 2011, 06:59:50 PM
We have only two users here that would even take the bait, and they haven't been really active lately.

That and their justification is that the bible says no no.


The bible says no no

The Bible says no to a lot of things. It's against healing your body like a temple. And ladies should have their heads covered. And in Deuteronomy, a marriage is only valid if the woman is a virgin, and she should be executed if she isn't. And anyone who commits adultery should be stoned to death. In Mark, divorce is illegal. I assume that you are referring to Leviticus 18:6: "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female. It is an abomination." A similar verse occurs two chapters later, in Leviticus 20:13: "A man who sleeps with another man is an abomination and should be executed." Leviticus is a holy code written 3,000 years ago. It also includes prohibitions against round haircuts, tattoos, working on the Sabbath, wearing garments of mixed fabrics, eating pork or shellfish, getting your fortune told, and even playing with the skin of a pig (There goes football!). Either ask people to follow all of your god's laws, or do not ask at all.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: New Earth on April 15, 2011, 07:35:51 PM
To me homosexuality is purely a cultural issue. In the biblical days Jewish culture condemned homosexuality, this belief carried over to Europe through Christianity. In Islam homosexuality is also a great sin but that is also because Islam has it roots in Judeo-Christianity. In ancient Greece and Rome, homosexuality was considered normal. In Japan homosexuality was never a taboo. It just depends what the society says about it. This has nothing to do with God.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Particle Person on April 15, 2011, 07:36:47 PM
To me homosexuality is purely a cultural issue. In the biblical days Jewish culture condemned homosexuality, this belief carried over to Europe through Christianity. In Islam homosexuality is also a great sin but that is also because Islam has it roots in Judeo-Christianity. In ancient Greece and Rome, homosexuality was considered normal. In Japan homosexuality was never a taboo. It just depends what the society says about it. This has nothing to do with God.

What the hell? You said something sensible that I agree with!  :o
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: New Earth on April 15, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
To me homosexuality is purely a cultural issue. In the biblical days Jewish culture condemned homosexuality, this belief carried over to Europe through Christianity. In Islam homosexuality is also a great sin but that is also because Islam has it roots in Judeo-Christianity. In ancient Greece and Rome, homosexuality was considered normal. In Japan homosexuality was never a taboo. It just depends what the society says about it. This has nothing to do with God.

What the hell?


Argue your point, what the hell means nothing.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Vindictus on April 15, 2011, 07:40:31 PM
To me homosexuality is purely a cultural issue. In the biblical days Jewish culture condemned homosexuality, this belief carried over to Europe through Christianity. In Islam homosexuality is also a great sin but that is also because Islam has it roots in Judeo-Christianity. In ancient Greece and Rome, homosexuality was considered normal. In Japan homosexuality was never a taboo. It just depends what the society says about it. This has nothing to do with God.

What the hell? You said something sensible that I agree with!  :o

He does it occasionally. Either has a rational moment or just gets bored of trolling.

Either way, concur.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Puttah on April 15, 2011, 11:13:58 PM
To me homosexuality is purely a cultural issue. In the biblical days Jewish culture condemned homosexuality, this belief carried over to Europe through Christianity. In Islam homosexuality is also a great sin but that is also because Islam has it roots in Judeo-Christianity. In ancient Greece and Rome, homosexuality was considered normal. In Japan homosexuality was never a taboo. It just depends what the society says about it. This has nothing to do with God.

What the hell? You said something sensible that I agree with!  :o

Such is life when he isn't talking about an infinite Earth.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: New Earth on April 16, 2011, 01:22:52 AM
I'm not trolling about infinite earth guys. I think that concept is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Homosexuality
Post by: Hazbollah on April 16, 2011, 02:09:41 AM
If you can actually understand a word of what he is saying, it's relevant in quite a funny way: