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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: Lorddave on March 19, 2010, 02:31:09 PM

Title: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 19, 2010, 02:31:09 PM
I need one of you FEers to answer Bendy Light Questions.

If you are unable to explain any of the effects of the Bendy Light stuff, I'm calling BS on the whole Bendy Light thing since you should be able to predict it's effects in order to verify that it does, indeed, exist.

1. Does all EM radiation (photons) bend Equally?
2. Does the bend angle or inclination change based on angle of path to the ground?  (in other words, if I were to shine a light straight up, does it bend?
3. Can you tell me a way to determine how the light bends and where it will be on an X/Y graph at any given point with any given distance?

More will come once these 3 are answered.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Drdevice on March 19, 2010, 03:23:34 PM
Bendy light was disproved and they are working on a new theory.

I froget what it is but it had something to do with how the air was kept in.

THe problem with bendy light was parallax. Two stars directly over head would get further apart the closer to the horizon they got. (because the stars are 100 miles further than the sun and moon this increases the deflection of them by the bendy variable)

d=sqr(13h) where d is the distance to the horizon in kilometers, and h is how high you are off of the ground only for the stars the distance would be increased by 160.9344 Km at the horizon. This whole equation changes as the stars move up and away from the horizon... and blah blah blah.

I can't type more right now. It was either TD or 2FST4U who talked about it they could direct you to the page about it.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Parsifal on March 19, 2010, 03:27:51 PM
Bendy light was disproved and they are working on a new theory.

This is not the case.

To answer your questions, OP:

1. Yes.
2. Yes. Horizontal light is bent most significantly, and vertical light not at all.
3. I posted an approximate equation sometime last year; the search function should be able to find it. There is, as yet, no precise mathematical analysis.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 19, 2010, 03:37:57 PM
Bendy light was disproved and they are working on a new theory.

This is not the case.

To answer your questions, OP:

1. Yes.
2. Yes. Horizontal light is bent most significantly, and vertical light not at all.
3. I posted an approximate equation sometime last year; the search function should be able to find it. There is, as yet, no precise mathematical analysis.

Thank you.

So let me make sure I understand it...

Photons bends towards the direction of the Planet's movement. (FE says the Earth [and universe?] is accelerating constantly.)

Ok, that should be easy enough to figure out. 

Now, does this only apply light originating from the Earth?  How about the sun and moonlight?
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Drdevice on March 19, 2010, 04:00:10 PM
Found it, Here (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=32055.msg791087#msg791087)
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 19, 2010, 06:06:31 PM
Found it, Here (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=32055.msg791087#msg791087)

Ok, I gotta quote this...

Quote
The spotlight form of the Sun's illumination upon the Earth is, in my opinion, caused by the curvature of light rays. As light from the Sun travels towards the Earth (except for perfectly vertical light), it bends towards the horizontal. At locations on the Earth's surface where it is sunrise or sunset, the light has bent all the way to horizontal by the time it reaches the Earth. Places which are further away from the Sun than this are not illuminated because the light bends back on itself before it can reach the Earth.

What the Hell?
This quote and the answers above are telling me that light from the Earth bends perpendicular from the surface of the Earth and light from above the Earth bends parallel?
Except light traveling in a perfectly straight towards the Earth does not bend towards the horizon.

This requires a picture...
(http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Lord_dave/?action-view&current=WeirdLight.jpg)
The yellow light is the sunlight coming down to the Earth.  The blue is any light originating on the Earth.

Is this accurate?

Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Thermal Detonator on March 19, 2010, 06:35:26 PM
Bendy light was disproved and they are working on a new theory.

I froget what it is but it had something to do with how the air was kept in.

THe problem with bendy light was parallax. Two stars directly over head would get further apart the closer to the horizon they got. (because the stars are 100 miles further than the sun and moon this increases the deflection of them by the bendy variable)

d=sqr(13h) where d is the distance to the horizon in kilometers, and h is how high you are off of the ground only for the stars the distance would be increased by 160.9344 Km at the horizon. This whole equation changes as the stars move up and away from the horizon... and blah blah blah.

I can't type more right now. It was either TD or 2FST4U who talked about it they could direct you to the page about it.

I didn't realise somebody had actually done the maths on the distance shift you would see. Well done that person.
It's not really correct to describe it as parallax, it's more a distortion such as one would see in an unevenly curved mirror.
But essentially yes, this has disproved bendy light. Parsifal will say it hasn't, but since he is unable to provide an alternative explanation, one can safely ignore him.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Drdevice on March 19, 2010, 07:09:24 PM
It's the equation to determine how far the horizion is away from you. THe horizon itself actualy extends another 20% of this distance. But that is from light refraction or something or another.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 20, 2010, 10:51:24 AM
After reading about the Bedford Level experiment I have a question:
If light always bends upwards on the Earth, why was he able to see the sheet?  According to Bendy Light Hypothesis I mean.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: markjo on March 20, 2010, 11:01:29 AM
Bendy Light is incompatible with the Bedford Levels experiment because bendy light makes the flat earth look round while the Bedford Levels experiment proved that the earth looks flat.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 20, 2010, 11:18:46 AM
Bendy Light is incompatible with the Bedford Levels experiment because bendy light makes the flat earth look round while the Bedford Levels experiment proved that the earth looks flat.

Which is why I'm confused how a Flat Earther can use that experiment as evidence as well as support bendy light.
Is there any explanation?
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: markjo on March 20, 2010, 11:28:19 AM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 20, 2010, 11:30:37 AM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: EireEngineer on March 20, 2010, 12:24:23 PM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?
Bendy light.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 20, 2010, 12:41:28 PM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?
Bendy light.

So the people who don't support bendy light explain the visual curvature at the horizon with bendy light?
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Catchpa on March 20, 2010, 12:53:02 PM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?

They keep quiet and pretend to forget about the thread in which they have to explain it.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 20, 2010, 01:43:03 PM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?

They keep quiet and pretend to forget about the thread in which they have to explain it.

So I should spam their inbox?
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: markjo on March 20, 2010, 02:38:05 PM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?

Some claim that it's an effect of perspective.  Read Earth Not a Globe for the full explanation.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 20, 2010, 04:11:38 PM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?

Some claim that it's an effect of perspective.  Read Earth Not a Globe for the full explanation.

....

So perspective = Factual whole?
Ok....
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: flyingmonkey on March 21, 2010, 05:04:29 AM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?

Some claim that it's an effect of perspective.  Read Earth Not a Globe for the full explanation.


I'd love to see the kind of perspective they talk about to make something flat appear curved when viewed at from large distances.
Title: Re: Need a Bendy Light Specialist
Post by: Lorddave on March 21, 2010, 11:22:34 AM
Some FE'ers don't support bendy light.  There was even a recent attempt to have references to bendy light removed from the FAQ.

How do these people explain visual curvature at the horizon?

Some claim that it's an effect of perspective.  Read Earth Not a Globe for the full explanation.


I'd love to see the kind of perspective they talk about to make something flat appear curved when viewed at from large distances.

And how Bendy light fits in.