The Flat Earth Society

The Flat Earth Society => Announcements => Topic started by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 09:52:07 AM

Title: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 09:52:07 AM
I've been wondering lately if there's any way we can promote the society in order to boost the movement's membership and exposure. Though I have a few ideas of my own, I want the members to be as involved in this as possible, because there are a lot of creative people here at TFES. So I thought I'd post this up and see if we can think of ways whereby we can promote the site as a group, but in a co-ordinated fashion. I think this is something that everyone can get involved in.


First off, we're going to try and get a bigger online presence. I've already begun by trying to get the facebook page moving, but what would be great is if anyone who's a member of our facebook group would suggest us to as many of your friends as possible. This is a perfect example of how members can really get involved in promoting the site.


I've also created a YouTube page (click) (http://www.youtube.com/user/flatearthtoday) and a Twitter page (click) (https://twitter.com/FlatEarthToday) under the name 'Flat Earth Today', so if you have a YouTube or Twitter account, please join! There's not much on the YouTube page right now, but hopefully that will change in the coming months - I know there are already a few FE related videos out there. Ideally, I'd like to run this in a similar fashion to the wiki, with some members being given access to the youtube account so they can upload content.


After that, we're going to pursue more active, 'real life' stuff (thinking poster campaigns, letter-writing), but first I'd like to have the online setup ready. Now, does anyone have any other ideas?
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Secret User on January 24, 2010, 09:55:42 AM
I've uploaded a couple of flat earth videos.... If you view the comments it's not exactly the kind of people we would want on the society, although there are a few people who are genuinely interested.  

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWayfaringStranger#p/a/u/2/99E-aTIk9xM (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWayfaringStranger#p/a/u/2/99E-aTIk9xM)

Ah, I see you've already found and subscribed to me.  :)
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Crustinator on January 24, 2010, 09:56:33 AM
Rerun the Bedford level experiment.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 10:00:52 AM
I've uploaded a couple of flat earth videos.... If you view the comments it's not exactly the kind of people we would want on the society, although there are a few people who are genuinely interested.  

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWayfaringStranger#p/a/u/2/99E-aTIk9xM (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWayfaringStranger#p/a/u/2/99E-aTIk9xM)


I was actually favouriting your videos and subscribing to you while you were posting!


Rerun the Bedford level experiment.


Daniel actually did this a while back, and uploaded pictures on Facebook, though the canal is in a bit of a state.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Crustinator on January 24, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
Daniel actually did this a while back, and uploaded pictures on Facebook, though the canal is in a bit of a state.

He re ran the whole experiment? With the boats and the flags and everything? And the earth was proven flat? Did he go to the press with his evidence?
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 10:09:31 AM
Daniel actually did this a while back, and uploaded pictures on Facebook, though the canal is in a bit of a state.

He re ran the whole experiment? With the boats and the flags and everything? And the earth was proven flat? Did he go to the press with his evidence?


I'm not going to engage in a debate about the experiment here, and more importantly, neither is anyone else.


Just making sure that's clear.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Nomad on January 24, 2010, 10:11:04 AM
Not the thread for it, yeah.

I subscribed to both.  yay

Also joined the FB group while I was at it, since I never bothered to before.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Crustinator on January 24, 2010, 10:14:40 AM
I'm not going to engage in a debate about the experiment here, and more importantly, neither is anyone else.

That be coo bro.

So my suggestion is to run the experiment exactly as performed originally by Hampden/Wallace. Have a wager staked on it. Invite the press.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 10:27:23 AM
Also, those of you who are members of our facebook group, send suggestions to your friends! You don't have to send it to all of them, but anyone you think might be interested. Who knows, it might spread!
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Secret User on January 24, 2010, 10:34:19 AM
Done.

It might also be a good idea to write to your local newspaper to get stuff published in the opinions page. I wrote an article about FES and how people have dogmatic assumptions and it was published in the paper.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 10:40:36 AM
A letter-writing campaign of some sort is definitely going to happen.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: theonlydann on January 24, 2010, 11:01:25 AM
We need a Flat Earth pamphlet, for distribution to our peers are places like school and such. I can't be bothered to remember EVERYTHING... maybe just something with the basics of UA and some references to ENAG.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Secret User on January 24, 2010, 11:03:33 AM
We need a Flat Earth pamphlet, for distribution to our peers are places like school and such. I can't be bothered to remember EVERYTHING... maybe just something with the basics of UA and some references to ENAG.

I made one, with the basics of the FAQ on it. I also made a button that I wear that says "Ask me about Flat Earth Theory". So when people do ask, which is quite often, I am able to give them a pamphlet and discuss the basics and direct them to here.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 11:04:31 AM
We need a Flat Earth pamphlet, for distribution to our peers are places like school and such. I can't be bothered to remember EVERYTHING... maybe just something with the basics of UA and some references to ENAG.

I made one, with the basics of the FAQ on it. I also made a button that I wear that says "Ask me about Flat Earth Theory". So when people do ask, which is quite often, I am able to give them a pamphlet and discuss the basics and direct them to here.


Okay, that is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Secret User on January 24, 2010, 11:09:08 AM
I have a folder in which in bold letters says "PARRALAX" on it, and inside there is a printed copy of ENAG, an interview with Charles K. Johnson, three different version of the FAQ, and a printed out copy if 100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe. That way, wherever I am, I have a mini flat earth "office" that people can look into.

And, if people are legitimately interested, I have about 5 USB cords on me at all times that have Flat Earth literature and pictures downloaded onto them that I can hand out.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: theonlydann on January 24, 2010, 11:36:48 AM
WTF!

Me want.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Saddam Hussein on January 24, 2010, 12:05:11 PM
Wow, SecretUser has put in some pretty good effort.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 24, 2010, 12:20:46 PM
I have a folder in which in bold letters says "PARRALAX" on it, and inside there is a printed copy of ENAG, an interview with Charles K. Johnson, three different version of the FAQ, and a printed out copy if 100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe. That way, wherever I am, I have a mini flat earth "office" that people can look into.

And, if people are legitimately interested, I have about 5 USB cords on me at all times that have Flat Earth literature and pictures downloaded onto them that I can hand out.


This is all great stuff, and just the kind of enthusiasm we need. I am definitely going to borrow some of this.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Secret User on January 24, 2010, 12:42:24 PM
Flat Earth Pamphlet
The heading is Daniel's flat earth symbol.

1. What is the circumference and diameter of the Earth?  1. What is the circumference and diameter of the Earth?

2.Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth? 2. The Earth is not one of the other planets. The Earth is special and unlike the other bodies in numerous ways.

3. What about gravity? 3. Dark Energy accelerates the Earth and all celestial bodies in the universe at 9.8m/s2. This is commonly known as Universal Acceleration, which produces the same effect as gravity. General relativity uses this concept to explain the equivalence between proper acceleration and gravity.

4. If the world was really flat, what would happen if you jump off the disc's edge? 4. You would become directly affected by Dark Energy as the Earth is, creating the illusion that you are standing next to the Earth.

5. Exactly what shape is the Earth if it's flat? Square or circle? 5. Circle, like in the UN logo. However, the earth is NOT 2D; it is in the shape of a cylinder.

6. Why doesn't water run off the Earth? 6. There is a vast ice wall that keeps the water where it is. The ice wall is roughly 150ft high. This also explains why you can find a vast plane of ice when you travel south. Antarctica as a continent does not exist.

7. NASA and other world space agencies have pictures of the Earth from space, and in those pictures the Earth is clearly a globe; in this day and age, hasn't it been proven beyond any doubt that the Earth is round? 7. NASA and the rest of the world's space agencies who claim to have been to space are involved in a Conspiracy to keep the shape of the Earth hidden.  The pictures are faked using simple imaging software.

Contact Info
www.theflatearthsociety.org
Scollins@theflatearthsociety.org

Those really are the questions that people ask me in the street most often.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Benjamin Franklin on January 24, 2010, 12:46:50 PM
I think the best method is a personal, word of mouth approach. Wear your FES shirt and be willing to talk about it, or at least direct people to the site, in public.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Daniel on January 24, 2010, 02:10:13 PM
I have a folder in which in bold letters says "PARRALAX" on it, and inside there is a printed copy of ENAG, an interview with Charles K. Johnson, three different version of the FAQ, and a printed out copy if 100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe. That way, wherever I am, I have a mini flat earth "office" that people can look into.

And, if people are legitimately interested, I have about 5 USB cords on me at all times that have Flat Earth literature and pictures downloaded onto them that I can hand out.

I carry about a dozen of my business cards with me.

You win.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Crustinator on January 25, 2010, 09:29:50 AM
Done.

It might also be a good idea to write to your local newspaper to get stuff published in the opinions page. I wrote an article about FES and how people have dogmatic assumptions and it was published in the paper.

I positively encourage all flat earth believers to write to their local newspapers.

Also letters to MPs and local council would help, perhaps pointing out that they are using conspiracy tampered equipment designed to indoctrinate them to round earth belief (theodolites, maps and so on)
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: cmdshft on January 25, 2010, 01:36:21 PM
I have a folder in which in bold letters says "PARRALAX" on it, and inside there is a printed copy of ENAG, an interview with Charles K. Johnson, three different version of the FAQ, and a printed out copy if 100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe. That way, wherever I am, I have a mini flat earth "office" that people can look into.

And, if people are legitimately interested, I have about 5 USB cords on me at all times that have Flat Earth literature and pictures downloaded onto them that I can hand out.

I carry about a dozen of my business cards with me.

You win.

I vote for SecretUser as supreme overlord of TFES.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on January 25, 2010, 04:42:28 PM
I have a folder in which in bold letters says "PARRALAX" on it, and inside there is a printed copy of ENAG, an interview with Charles K. Johnson, three different version of the FAQ, and a printed out copy if 100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe. That way, wherever I am, I have a mini flat earth "office" that people can look into.

And, if people are legitimately interested, I have about 5 USB cords on me at all times that have Flat Earth literature and pictures downloaded onto them that I can hand out.

I carry about a dozen of my business cards with me.

You win.

I vote for SecretUser as supreme overlord of TFES.
Seconded
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: markjo on January 25, 2010, 06:18:06 PM
I have a folder in which in bold letters says "PARRALAX" on it, and inside there is a printed copy of ENAG, an interview with Charles K. Johnson, three different version of the FAQ, and a printed out copy if 100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe. That way, wherever I am, I have a mini flat earth "office" that people can look into.

And, if people are legitimately interested, I have about 5 USB cords on me at all times that have Flat Earth literature and pictures downloaded onto them that I can hand out.

I carry about a dozen of my business cards with me.

You win.

I vote for SecretUser as supreme overlord of TFES.
Seconded
Hmm...  I thought that Daniel was supreme overlord of TFES and as such he has to be assassinated by his successor.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Nomad on January 25, 2010, 08:52:28 PM
I have a folder in which in bold letters says "PARRALAX" on it, and inside there is a printed copy of ENAG, an interview with Charles K. Johnson, three different version of the FAQ, and a printed out copy if 100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe. That way, wherever I am, I have a mini flat earth "office" that people can look into.

And, if people are legitimately interested, I have about 5 USB cords on me at all times that have Flat Earth literature and pictures downloaded onto them that I can hand out.

I carry about a dozen of my business cards with me.

You win.

I vote for SecretUser as supreme overlord of TFES.
Seconded
Hmm...  I thought that Daniel was supreme overlord of TFES and as such he has to be assassinated by his successor.

This quite possibly could be the case.  I think Daniel himself just waited until the previous overlord died from natural causes to pick up the torch himself.  Hmm.

We might need to invest in security.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Ocius on January 26, 2010, 04:28:46 AM
If you have an official advertisement, I  can print some out and put them up on the bulletin boards at my school.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Daniel on January 27, 2010, 03:16:20 PM
Big news here.  I have two words for you: Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/) interview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview).

More details as the situation develops!
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 27, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Woah! Absolutely fantastic!
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: theonlydann on January 27, 2010, 05:35:44 PM
Meh. Get an interview with an American paper and i'll be all like... WHOA!

Also, remember to constantly refer to your regulars as fervent disciples..
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 27, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
The Guardian is probably the worlds biggest left-wing broadsheet, so in international terms it would be a massive scoop.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: theonlydann on January 27, 2010, 05:41:46 PM
I am quite American-centric.

Also, i forgot to say, congrats.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Nomad on January 27, 2010, 06:08:43 PM
Big news here.  I have two words for you: Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/) interview (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interview).

More details as the situation develops!

I sharted!
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: frostee on January 27, 2010, 11:46:06 PM
As long as I am mentioned, I'm content.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Sentient Fridge on January 28, 2010, 03:42:46 AM
I plan on getting a vanity plate when I get mah car. It's gun' be TFES related as possible. (Maybe Tflat3s, or something like that? Depends what I can get on there.)

Also, WE NEED STICKERS. Because, slapping stickers around places totally helps people get interested. At least, it did for me whenever I saw one.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on January 28, 2010, 06:52:25 AM
As long as I am mentioned, I'm content.
This

But also nice one Daniel
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Daniel on January 29, 2010, 10:37:39 AM
I just got back from the interview.  It was a slightly strange experience as I've never really publicly spoken about this sort of thing before.  The reporter was very nice, though, and I think the interview went well.  I suppose there's no guarantee that it will turn into a story but I'm hoping something comes of it.  If he does end up writing a piece based on the interview, it will give the Society a tremendous amount of publicity.  As Wilmore said, The Guardian is quite a big deal.  I suppose it's sort of like the New York Times of the UK -- maybe of Europe in general.  Its readership tends to be liberal, educated and fairly open-minded.  So I'm hopeful that the article would generate visitors who are genuinely interested in the Society and willing to consider the Flat Earth Model seriously rather than just creating accounts and insulting us.

There are a couple other things in the works as well but I don't want to jinx them.  I'll keep everyone updated, of course!
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 29, 2010, 10:38:54 AM
Fantastic. If this comes off, it really will be a triumph =)
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 29, 2010, 10:48:27 AM
By the way Daniel, did he give any indication as to what kind of piece he was thinking of writing? How long was the interview?
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on January 29, 2010, 11:16:52 AM
And more importantly, did you mention me?
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: theonlydann on January 29, 2010, 11:40:39 AM
or me?
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Daniel on January 29, 2010, 02:06:29 PM
By the way Daniel, did he give any indication as to what kind of piece he was thinking of writing? How long was the interview?

We spoke for about 35 minutes.

He's the environmental correspondent for The Guardian.  He's interested in why certain groups have beliefs which run counter to mainstream science.   Specifically, I think he's comparing/contrasting the Flat Earth Society's beliefs with those of climate-change deniers.  For instance, he thinks that climate-change deniers are motivated by financial and/or political factors but doesn't understand what the Society's motivations are.  He was up-front about all of this and seems to have a genuine interest in the subject.  We talked about that topic, standards of evidence, the conspiracy and how my Flat Earth beliefs relate to my views of other topics.  I'm sure I didn't change his mind about the shape of the Earth but I'm not expecting him to ridicule our beliefs either.  It sounded like an interesting premise, to be honest.  I think I'd enjoy reading the article even if I weren't part of its subject matter.

Oh, there's also apparently some sort of podcast he's involved in.  We did a little mini-interview afterward for that.  So maybe you'll get to hear me on there at some point!
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Sentient Fridge on January 29, 2010, 02:44:36 PM
It will need to be linked to!
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Lord Wilmore on January 29, 2010, 04:18:05 PM
By the way Daniel, did he give any indication as to what kind of piece he was thinking of writing? How long was the interview?

We spoke for about 35 minutes.

He's the environmental correspondent for The Guardian.  He's interested in why certain groups have beliefs which run counter to mainstream science.   Specifically, I think he's comparing/contrasting the Flat Earth Society's beliefs with those of climate-change deniers.  For instance, he thinks that climate-change deniers are motivated by financial and/or political factors but doesn't understand what the Society's motivations are.  He was up-front about all of this and seems to have a genuine interest in the subject.  We talked about that topic, standards of evidence, the conspiracy and how my Flat Earth beliefs relate to my views of other topics.  I'm sure I didn't change his mind about the shape of the Earth but I'm not expecting him to ridicule our beliefs either.  It sounded like an interesting premise, to be honest.  I think I'd enjoy reading the article even if I weren't part of its subject matter.

Oh, there's also apparently some sort of podcast he's involved in.  We did a little mini-interview afterward for that.  So maybe you'll get to hear me on there at some point!


Sounds good. Honestly, as you say, I'm not really too bothered whether or not he presents our ideas as even plausible - the main point is that it's a serious piece that will bring people here so they can decide for themselves.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: markjo on January 29, 2010, 05:53:25 PM
In other words, prepare for another round of noob invasions.
Title: Re: Promoting the Society
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on January 29, 2010, 11:02:49 PM
In other words, prepare for another round of noob invasions.

Hooray I might get to do some banning!