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Title: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 15, 2008, 10:26:08 AM
Supposedly Tesla was on to something like this, before Edison trashed his lab. Anyone have any information on this? It's a very curious topic.

For those curious as to what it is, briefly, it's one possible usage would be to hide a door in a wall with a magnetic field. You have a specific tone play and the wall loses integrity partially, and you can pass through it, when the tone stops the wall then becomes solid again.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: semperround on October 15, 2008, 04:43:55 PM
fascinating, never heard of it.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Parsifal on October 15, 2008, 06:49:30 PM
What happens if you're halfway through the wall and the tone stops?
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 15, 2008, 07:24:57 PM
What happens if you're halfway through the wall and the tone stops?

Probably severs your body. Or you get stuck in the wall.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: The Anarchist on October 15, 2008, 07:51:00 PM
So the wall becomes a liquid?
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Parsifal on October 15, 2008, 07:55:42 PM
So the wall becomes a liquid?

Yes, a wall of liquid is going to stay upright.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Mr. Ireland on October 15, 2008, 07:58:54 PM
So the wall becomes a liquid?

Yes, a wall of liquid is going to stay upright.

With gravity being a giant magnet sort of thing, yes, yes it would.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: The Anarchist on October 15, 2008, 08:00:19 PM
So the wall becomes a liquid?

Yes, a wall of liquid is going to stay upright.
Didn't make much sense to me either.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 15, 2008, 08:01:17 PM
So the wall becomes a liquid?

Not so much a liquid, but a wall of dust due to the harmonic disruption. When the resonance stops, it becomes rigid again.

I'm not making this up, I seriously heard that Tesla was onto something like this but could never finish his research because Edison destroyed his research lab. They all thought he was crazy when he came up with alternating current, but looks like he wasn't afterall; your homes are powered in AC (although most of the appliances and devices you use convert it back to direct current (DC)).
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 15, 2008, 09:05:14 PM
What happens if you're halfway through the wall and the tone stops?
I thought the same thing.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: MrKappa on October 17, 2008, 12:33:02 PM
I went looking for this. The closest terminology I found was rapid-phase-transition.

I don't think anyone is even trying to do this. I am almost certain that some industrial processes use sonics to cure materials and strengthen them. I am also aware of Newtonian fluids which will solidify with sound vibrations.

Are Bose-Einstein condensates a candidate for this sort of thing? I realize they require sub-zero temperatures so for practcal purposes it doesn't match Tesla's ideas. But I don't think Tesla was ever practical was he?
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: divito the truthist on October 17, 2008, 12:34:55 PM
But I don't think Tesla was ever practical was he?

...
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: MrKappa on October 17, 2008, 12:47:39 PM
But I don't think Tesla was ever practical was he?

...

Correction... I don't think he was very grounded... He was a brilliant visionary but he was trumped by business people with entrepreneurial hunger...

Not practical in a capitalist environment. It's just an assumption... I would rather be a Tesla than an Edison.

Visionaries inspire people. Hungry entrepreneurs are "see through".
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 17, 2008, 02:05:59 PM
But I don't think Tesla was ever practical was he?

...

Correction... I don't think he was very grounded... He was a brilliant visionary but he was trumped by business people with entrepreneurial hunger...

Not practical in a capitalist environment. It's just an assumption... I would rather be a Tesla than an Edison.

Visionaries inspire people. Hungry entrepreneurs are "see through".

Tesla vastly improved Edison's electrical lab's, refining his inefficient systems. Tesla was more than sound as an engineer and a scientist. The only reason he was trumped was because Edison screwed him out of large sum's of money, mocking Tesla's alienism by saying "Clearly, Tesla, you do not understand our American humor."
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Chris Spaghetti on October 20, 2008, 01:44:17 AM
What happens if you're halfway through the wall and the tone stops?

Reminds me of that Start Trek episode with the phase-cloak.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Dead Kangaroo on October 21, 2008, 12:25:13 PM
Supposedly Tesla was on to something like this, before Edison trashed his lab. Anyone have any information on this? It's a very curious topic.

For those curious as to what it is, briefly, it's one possible usage would be to hide a door in a wall with a magnetic field. You have a specific tone play and the wall loses integrity partially, and you can pass through it, when the tone stops the wall then becomes solid again.
Sounds like Stargate Atlantis stuff this.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 21, 2008, 12:25:57 PM
Supposedly Tesla was on to something like this, before Edison trashed his lab. Anyone have any information on this? It's a very curious topic.

For those curious as to what it is, briefly, it's one possible usage would be to hide a door in a wall with a magnetic field. You have a specific tone play and the wall loses integrity partially, and you can pass through it, when the tone stops the wall then becomes solid again.
Sounds like Stargate Atlantis stuff this.

That's where I got the idea to post about it, but the little research I did about Tesla and his dealings with Edison were true.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Conspiracy Mastermind on October 26, 2008, 12:10:28 PM
Magic liquid doors? Yes, we have those, in fact the entire back wall of the Lincoln Memorial is a magic liquid door to our secondary division of conspiracy control. It doesn't exist, but you can activate it by standing dead centre of the memorial and singing "Here we go here we go here we go!!!" at the top of your lungs.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 04:25:04 PM
So the wall becomes a liquid?

Not so much a liquid, but a wall of dust due to the harmonic disruption. When the resonance stops, it becomes rigid again.

I'm not making this up, I seriously heard that Tesla was onto something like this but could never finish his research because Edison destroyed his research lab. They all thought he was crazy when he came up with alternating current, but looks like he wasn't afterall; your homes are powered in AC (although most of the appliances and devices you use convert it back to direct current (DC)).

DC is far superior to AC for most purposes. The majority of electrical circuits use DC, AC just doesn't make sense usually. The reason our homes are powered with AC was psychological. DC was used to fry people in the first electric chairs. It frightened people. AC was "friendly" and people bought into it.

If we were to re-evaluate our decision, I'm confident we would be using DC today. Many of our biggest electrical problems stem from using AC opposed to DC...
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 26, 2008, 04:27:01 PM
You're probably right, on that one.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2008, 06:53:15 PM
So the wall becomes a liquid?

Not so much a liquid, but a wall of dust due to the harmonic disruption. When the resonance stops, it becomes rigid again.

I'm not making this up, I seriously heard that Tesla was onto something like this but could never finish his research because Edison destroyed his research lab. They all thought he was crazy when he came up with alternating current, but looks like he wasn't afterall; your homes are powered in AC (although most of the appliances and devices you use convert it back to direct current (DC)).

DC is far superior to AC for most purposes. The majority of electrical circuits use DC, AC just doesn't make sense usually. The reason our homes are powered with AC was psychological. DC was used to fry people in the first electric chairs. It frightened people. AC was "friendly" and people bought into it.

If we were to re-evaluate our decision, I'm confident we would be using DC today. Many of our biggest electrical problems stem from using AC opposed to DC...

Wow you are wrong. AC is used to fry people. DC can not kill you. The reason AC is used is because it can travel distances much better than DC. That is why DC is used for batteries, AC is used for powerlines.

NARCFAIL!!!!!
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 26, 2008, 07:12:36 PM
Good thing I said probably right, not is right.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 07:30:41 PM
DC can not kill you.

Does this mean Hara's gonna jump fence again?
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Mr. Ireland on October 26, 2008, 07:34:13 PM
The reason our homes are powered with AC was psychological.

Last I heard there something about conversions and DC requiring many power lines as opposed to AC and its one.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Mrs. Peach on October 26, 2008, 07:42:52 PM
Westinghouse was just smarter than Edison.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 08:00:51 PM
Edison was a douche to say the least.


DC can not kill you.
For those unaware, lightning is DC.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2008, 08:42:15 PM
Edison was a douche to say the least.


DC can not kill you.
For those unaware, lightning is DC.
My statement was incorrect, DC is less likely to kill you. Edison did the experiments showing AC kill edison then using equal amounts of DC on himself.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 08:48:28 PM
Edison did experiments killing himself with AC?
That guy sure was devoted. I'm glad he survived to demonstrate DC was survivable.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2008, 08:51:26 PM
OK now I am failing hard. I need sleep.

Edison did experiment showing AC killing elephants, then would allow the same amount of DC pass through himself and show no ill effects.

/sleep deprived raist.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 08:56:22 PM
Same amount defined as potential difference, amperes, coulombs, or watts?

All 4 have different ways of implying false conclusions, something Edison was famous for.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2008, 08:58:32 PM
Same amount defined as potential difference, amperes, coulombs, or watts?

All 4 have different ways of implying false conclusions, something Edison was famous for.

i believe all the answers you need are here link (http://www.google.com)
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 09:00:28 PM
Hey guys, I have these really retarded ideas that prove you wrong, all you have to do to verify it is check my sources below!
link (http://www.google.com)
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2008, 09:36:09 PM
You stated that AC is used because people feared DC would kill them.

Prove it right.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: cmdshft on October 26, 2008, 09:38:00 PM
Hey guys, I have these really retarded ideas that prove you wrong, all you have to do to verify it is check my sources below!
link (http://www.google.com)

Clever! I'll link to Google instead of providing thought provoking material! Robin Williams should just say "Why did the chicken cross the road? Fuck you, Google it!".
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 09:46:42 PM
Edison did experiment showing AC killing elephants, then would allow the same amount of DC pass through himself and show no ill effects.

We're still questioning this awesome reference, Raist.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2008, 10:19:49 PM
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/06/ads-gone-bad-edison-electrocutes-topsy-the-elephant/


first hit on google.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 26, 2008, 10:23:40 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: narcberry on October 26, 2008, 10:27:01 PM
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/06/ads-gone-bad-edison-electrocutes-topsy-the-elephant/


first hit on google.

Says nothing of Edison doing anything to himself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents

Also says nothing of Edison electrocuting himself.

You could work for the press.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Vauxhall on October 27, 2008, 01:14:08 AM
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/06/ads-gone-bad-edison-electrocutes-topsy-the-elephant/


first hit on google.

Says nothing of Edison doing anything to himself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents

Also says nothing of Edison electrocuting himself.

You could work for the press.

Reported.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: ﮎingulaЯiτy on October 27, 2008, 07:24:14 AM
I'm too lazy to confirm this, but I recall from somewhere that AC was much more efficient for electric lines over long distances. DC is more intuitive, but AC was superior in this way. We use both where they make more sense. We didn't build the national electrical systems around psychological reasons, but practical ones.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Raist on October 27, 2008, 09:10:09 AM
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/09/06/ads-gone-bad-edison-electrocutes-topsy-the-elephant/


first hit on google.

Says nothing of Edison doing anything to himself.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents

Also says nothing of Edison electrocuting himself.

You could work for the press.
Back up your statement that someone was using DC to kill animals and that made AC more popular.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: S_Penrod on May 06, 2011, 09:34:51 AM
The wall isnt dust! All things being made up of matter. There is space located between all matter the atoms of a solid wall only appear solid on a larger than molecular level. The "sound" or "tones" used in this theory of harmonic magnetic resonance briefly disrupts the bonds between the atoms allowing for a momentary lapse of solidity. Through this disruption the bonds between the atoms becomes unstable long enough for something to pass through them as the atoms are magnetically placed in a rapid state of vibration.
                        S. Penrod
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: S_Penrod on May 06, 2011, 09:52:20 AM
  Tesla came to the states in hopes of working with Edison, Edison turned him away and spent the latter part of his career trying to discredit Tesla. Tesla would sit in his lab surrounded by millions of volts of alternating current shooting around him like lightning. Edison used the AC current to elctrocute many stray animals on the city streets to show the dangers of AC. (in fact ALL electricity whether AC or DC is dangerous if not properly handled. Tesla is actually responsible for nearly EVERY electrical device around you today, he invented the radio, cellular communication, devised the star wars program, created perpetual motion etc.. With Teslas research he was the one to bring light to the worlds fair, his engines are what is responsible for you driving, he used Niagra falls to create and send electricity to Jersy or somewhere on the east coast. His generator designs are still used there.  The Government still has not made since of all the research that was confiscated from Teslas labs after his death... Edison despised the fact that his lifes work came so naturally to someone else and also in the instance that Tesla understood more than Edison did. Edison believed that "genius is 1% inspiration and 99% persperation". And honestly Edison and the light bulb, the light bulb was created by a team of scientists, the only real contribution Edison made was thinning the filament inside the bulb so that it would burn brighter and longer.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Lorddave on May 06, 2011, 10:14:36 AM
AC has a longer transmission length before it needs a "boost". DC has a relatively short transmission length before it needs a boost.

It takes less energy to vibrate a string of electrons than it takes to move them.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: Dave on May 09, 2011, 07:16:09 PM
Ohm's Law kids... V=IR

To get the same current capacity as a standard AC source (~120V) you would need to produce a 120VDC source. Since DC does not work with transformers this severely limits your options.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: optimisticcynic on May 11, 2011, 11:25:52 AM
Ohm's Law kids... V=IR

To get the same current capacity as a standard AC source (~120V) you would need to produce a 120VDC source. Since DC does not work with transformers this severely limits your options.
this.
my understanding was the entire reason we us AC is it is much easier to up or lower the voltage. this way you can send it through power lines at high voltage then lower it back down when it gets where it needs to be. granted I could be wrong but that is my basic understanding of the subject.
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: vhu9644 on May 16, 2011, 11:26:41 PM
Ohm's Law kids... V=IR

To get the same current capacity as a standard AC source (~120V) you would need to produce a 120VDC source. Since DC does not work with transformers this severely limits your options.
this.
my understanding was the entire reason we us AC is it is much easier to up or lower the voltage. this way you can send it through power lines at high voltage then lower it back down when it gets where it needs to be. granted I could be wrong but that is my basic understanding of the subject.
yea, and also i remember seeing that generators are more easily made for ac, not dc as well

but inverters are a pain in the ass to build. (built one, tested it on my dad's occilascope)
rectifiers are soooooooooo much easier
Title: Re: Controlled Magnetic Harmonic Resonance
Post by: ﮎingulaЯiτy on May 17, 2011, 05:46:05 AM
lol. The first me clearly didn't read the thread. Lazy bastard.