The autopilot/pilot is always making constant adjustments to correct for air currents. The small adjustments needed to keep the plane at the right altitude would be part of these.
The autopilot/pilot is always making constant adjustments to correct for air currents. The small adjustments needed to keep the plane at the right altitude would be part of these.
Wrong, if you have ever been on a plane the flaps of the wings (aileron) never move not once at cruising level....
The autopilot/pilot is always making constant adjustments to correct for air currents. The small adjustments needed to keep the plane at the right altitude would be part of these.
Wrong, if you have ever been on a plane the flaps of the wings (aileron) never move not once at cruising level....
Whether FE or RE, this is related to density altitude. The plane will naturally settle where the lift and weight are at equilibrium.
Wrong, if you have ever been on a plane the flaps of the wings (aileron) never move not once at cruising level....
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You were measuring them the whole time, were you?
True enough, hard to see those tail elevators but you can hear the motor of the elevators, just like you can hear the motors of the aileron and spoilers, oh yes, and flaps too. I have flown on the cheapo seats, no noise, no nose pitch of the aircraft every now and about. The Earth is Flat.
Wrong, if you have ever been on a plane the flaps of the wings (aileron) never move not once at cruising level....
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Ailerons are for roll control (banking left or right). The elevators at the back of the plane are for pitch control (up/down).
The Earth is Flat.
This may be simply for you to answer, and may sound stupid. But nonetheless I'd like to have it cleared up.
The FE theory claims the Earth is moving upward in space, thus causing the sensation we RE'ers call Gravity. Wouldn't the plane, after takeoff, be slammed by the upward moving Earth if we were simply flying horizontal?
The FE theory claims the Earth is moving upward in space, thus causing the sensation we RE'ers call Gravity. Wouldn't the plane, after takeoff, be slammed by the upward moving Earth if we were simply flying horizontal?
True enough, hard to see those tail elevators but you can hear the motor of the elevators, just like you can hear the motors of the aileron and spoilers, oh yes, and flaps too. I have flown on the cheapo seats, no noise, no nose pitch of the aircraft every now and about. The Earth is Flat.
Wrong, if you have ever been on a plane the flaps of the wings (aileron) never move not once at cruising level....
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Ailerons are for roll control (banking left or right). The elevators at the back of the plane are for pitch control (up/down).
Elevator trim frees the pilot from constantly adjusting the pitch controls. A longitudinal trim control (often in the shape of a wheel) is adjusted by the pilot to cancel out control forces for a given airspeed or weight distribution. When the trim control is rotated forward the nose is held down and conversely if the trim wheel is moved back the tail becomes heavy. Many newer aircraft, especially jet aircraft have electric trim controls.
Wrong, if you have ever been on a plane the flaps of the wings (aileron) never move not once at cruising level....
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Ailerons are for roll control (banking left or right). The elevators at the back of the plane are for pitch control (up/down).
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True enough, hard to see those tail elevators but you can hear the motor of the elevators, just like you can hear the motors of the aileron and spoilers, oh yes, and flaps too. I have flown on the cheapo seats, no noise, no nose pitch of the aircraft every now and about. The Earth is Flat.
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Ever heard of trim tabs?
Elevator trim frees the pilot from constantly adjusting the pitch controls. A longitudinal trim control (often in the shape of a wheel) is adjusted by the pilot to cancel out control forces for a given airspeed or weight distribution. When the trim control is rotated forward the nose is held down and conversely if the trim wheel is moved back the tail becomes heavy. Many newer aircraft, especially jet aircraft have electric trim controls.
Ever heard of trim tabs?QuoteElevator trim frees the pilot from constantly adjusting the pitch controls. A longitudinal trim control (often in the shape of a wheel) is adjusted by the pilot to cancel out control forces for a given airspeed or weight distribution. When the trim control is rotated forward the nose is held down and conversely if the trim wheel is moved back the tail becomes heavy. Many newer aircraft, especially jet aircraft have electric trim controls.
Your agreeing the Earth is Flat.
At point (A) the airplane reaches cruising altitude and pilot engages trim tabs, the ground below is a given 34,000 ft, upon reaching point (B) 500 miles later the ground below curved underneath around the so-called round Earth and gained altitude, now the airplane has to reach point (E), therefore altitude adjustment must be implemented or air routes are compromised.
Not necessarily. The gravitational attraction of the earth is always perpendicular to the surface of the earth so an airplane in level flight would naturally want to follow that curvature in order to maintain its level.
Ever heard of trim tabs? Elevator trim frees the pilot from constantly adjusting the pitch controls. A longitudinal trim control (often in the shape of a wheel) is adjusted by the pilot to cancel out control forces for a given airspeed or weight distribution. When the trim control is rotated forward the nose is held down and conversely if the trim wheel is moved back the tail becomes heavy. Many newer aircraft, especially jet aircraft have electric trim controls.
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Your agreeing the Earth is Flat.
At point (A) the airplane reaches cruising altitude and pilot engages trim tabs, the ground below is a given 34,000 ft, upon reaching point (B) 500 miles later the ground below curved underneath around the so-called round Earth and gained altitude, now the airplane has to reach point (E), therefore altitude adjustment must be implemented or air routes are compromised.
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Not necessarily. The gravitational attraction of the earth is always perpendicular to the surface of the earth so an airplane in level flight would naturally want to follow that curvature in order to maintain its level.
Wow. The fail of this thread is epic. I mean truly epic.
Hydraulic boosted flight controls = no sound.
I cannot believe this is a serious question. The plane does not need to make any adjustments to fly at constant altitute around a hypothetical round Earth. It has nothing to do with sound, it has to do with physics.
Whether FE or RE, this is related to density altitude. The plane will naturally settle where the lift and weight are at equilibrium.
I cannot believe this is a serious question. The plane does not need to make any adjustments to fly at constant altitute around a hypothetical round Earth. It has nothing to do with sound, it has to do with physics.
I can't believe you can't explain it!!!!!! The pilot would have to adjust the altitude periodically on a round Earth which by the way DOESN'T happen. And because you can't defend the round lie, the truth of the matter is that the Earth is flat.
[At point (A) the airplane reaches cruising altitude and pilot engages trim tabs, the ground below is a given 34,000 ft, upon reaching point (B) 500 miles later the ground below curved underneath around the so-called round Earth and gained altitude, now the airplane has to reach point (E), therefore altitude adjustment must be implemented or air routes are compromised.]
Whether FE or RE, this is related to density altitude. The plane will naturally settle where the lift and weight are at equilibrium.
I can't believe you can't explain it!!!!!! The pilot would have to adjust the altitude periodically on a round Earth which by the way DOESN'T happen. And because you can't defend the round lie, the truth of the matter is that the Earth is flat.
[At point (A) the airplane reaches cruising altitude and pilot engages trim tabs, the ground below is a given 34,000 ft, upon reaching point (B) 500 miles later the ground below curved underneath around the so-called round Earth and gained altitude, now the airplane has to reach point (E), therefore altitude adjustment must be implemented or air routes are compromised.]
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First off all trim tabs are electric and "engaged" even before the engines start up on the ground.
The reason an aircraft can follow the "curvature" of the earth is pressure. The autopilot maintains a constant MSL altitude by staying at a set pressure once it has reached up to its cruising level. Now while at this set MSL altitude, the aircraft may actually change it's AGL altitude as you fly along if the pressure changes. But the pilot only knows this if he has a radar altimeter that is on at altitude. Most don't. Otherwise as long as the main altimeter stays at the assigned MSL altitude it's good to go.
A better question would be how a plane follows the longitudinal curve... Shortest path?
Wow. The fail of this thread is epic. I mean truly epic.
Do RE'ers no longer assert that the whole curving flight path theory is fishy to say the least? Have we stopped asking why you cannot fly in a straight line between points?
A better question would be how a plane follows the longitudinal curve... Shortest path?
Explain your point and question with more words. If I did understand correctly same reason why they don't fly over the North pole to get to Asia. D-E-C-E-P-T-I-O-N
wouldn't the centripetal force of a round earth bring the plane crashing down since the force downward is more than gravity? I think i have busted the round earth conspiracy
A better question would be how a plane follows the longitudinal curve... Shortest path?
Explain your point and question with more words. If I did understand correctly same reason why they don't fly over the North pole to get to Asia. D-E-C-E-P-T-I-O-N
I can assure you that planes do not constantly trim their flight to maintain altitude. Just as a rock that is tied to one's finger may be kept spinning about it, a plane that is pulled to the earth by the force of gravity will not just float off into space bacause it is going fast
As for your "evidence" in the form of hearing observations, there is no way that you could have heard a commercial jet's hydrolics from inside the cabin (which can be as loud as 86 decibels).
Explain your point and question with more words. If I did understand correctly same reason why they don't fly over the North pole to get to Asia. D-E-C-E-P-T-I-O-N
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"They"? Who is this generic "they"? If you mean flights from australia then it is obvious why they do not fly over the North Pole to get to Asia - that would take forever. If you mean flights from north america then you are simply fail at geography - they do fly over the arctic ocean to get to asia. In either case this was not a very convincing arguement.
Explain your point and question with more words. If I did understand correctly same reason why they don't fly over the North pole to get to Asia. D-E-C-E-P-T-I-O-N
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"They"? Who is this generic "they"? If you mean flights from australia then it is obvious why they do not fly over the North Pole to get to Asia - that would take forever. If you mean flights from north america then you are simply fail at geography - they do fly over the arctic ocean to get to asia. In either case this was not a very convincing arguement.
You like lies my friend, and "they" are "those" who lie. Conviction are for the faithful.
Explain your point and question with more words. If I did understand correctly same reason why they don't fly over the North pole to get to Asia. D-E-C-E-P-T-I-O-N
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Aw, hell I'll try. FET holds that planes and boats travel in arcs instead of lines. Therefore a boat or a plane under FET theory would travel in an arc pretty much equivalent to the the longitudinal arc equivalent under RET between two points. My assertion is that at least with planes, with FET you could potentially move directly from one point to another by moving in a straight line between those points.
Dude, either answer him or shut the fuck up. Do you think people are really into your cryptic shit? I don't trust religious people at all, regardless of what the believe in, and you are in deeper than most.
The shortest route to get to Asia from north America is over the north pole.
The shortest route to get to Asia from north America is over the north pole.
Since that is true both on FE and RE, how do you rationalize avoiding the north pole as somehow being part of the conspiracy?
just to be clear are Fe'ers saying Fe straight paths would give a faster route?
Whether FE or RE, this is related to density altitude. The plane will naturally settle where the lift and weight are at equilibrium.
This is partially incorrect. The first part is correct the second part is not. Lift and weight distribution have to be at equilibrium upon takeoff. Otherwise the aircraft will either not get off the ground or flip over once airborne and crash.
Whether FE or RE, this is related to density altitude. The plane will naturally settle where the lift and weight are at equilibrium.
This is partially incorrect. The first part is correct the second part is not. Lift and weight distribution have to be at equilibrium upon takeoff. Otherwise the aircraft will either not get off the ground or flip over once airborne and crash.
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At take off the lift and weight are not at equilibrium. L>W at take off or you would not take off.
You like lies my friend, and "they" are "those" who lie. Conviction are for the faithful.
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I'll jump into the topic.Nice try but it makes no difference about how slow the pitch is. The fact remains that pilots would have to alter constant level instead of flying against the level horizon of their instrument.
Yes the Aircraft attitude does constantly pitch down as it moves across the Earth.
It seems nobody has actually done the calculations so here they are.
At 450 Kts you travel around the Earth in 48 hours.
The Aircraft must therefore pitch 360 degrees in 48 hours.
That is FOUR times slower than the movement of the Hour Hand on a Clock. You cannot even see the hour hand on a clock moving at normal speed...
The rate is 1 degree every 8 minutes if cruising at 450 Kts.
No person on Earth can feel steady movement this slow.
The aircraft is flown at a steady altitude by reference to the Altimeter and Vertical Speed indicator - that requires numerous tiny adjustments every minute - whether being hand flown or by the autopilot.
1 degree of pitch in 8 minutes is completely absorbed by these smaller and more frequent corrections. Since the perspective in the window does not change the pitch down is completely imperceptible.
Nice try but it makes no difference about how slow the pitch is. The fact remains that pilots would have to alter constant level instead of flying against the level horizon of their instrument.
We all know that the horizon level is adhered to whilst cruising altitude is achieved which is kept set by auto pilot for most of the time.
This is why planes zig zag to destinations after setting courses, because it ensures they don't take any curved path around a flat Earth and giving rise to immediate questioning by savvy people.
The Earth is absolutely 100% not a rotating globe and planes above all else prove it way beyond any reasonable doubt.
Indoctrination in schools and colleges etc, is severe and keeps many people quite happy to simply follow something that should be so far out of logic as to be crystal clear to be complete and utter bollocks and yet the promise of a certificate keeps the mindset of most on acceptance of anything the idols/tutors/professors...etc...etc...etc, say.
You really shouldn't waste your time trying to convince me. I already know the global Earth is a massive load of old bullshit and no amount of your words will change that.Nice try but it makes no difference about how slow the pitch is. The fact remains that pilots would have to alter constant level instead of flying against the level horizon of their instrument.
We all know that the horizon level is adhered to whilst cruising altitude is achieved which is kept set by auto pilot for most of the time.
The plane stays at the same altitude because of the shape of the wing and the way it deals with the atmosphere around it. That atmosphere is also following the curve of the Earth.QuoteThis is why planes zig zag to destinations after setting courses, because it ensures they don't take any curved path around a flat Earth and giving rise to immediate questioning by savvy people.
Planes 'zig zag' to follow agreed routes to destinations so that they don't start running into other air craft and so that they can avoid potential hazards like mountains and people firing missiles at them. The zig zags are not to fool people like you, they wouldn't need to stretch to something that complicated.Quote
The Earth is absolutely 100% not a rotating globe and planes above all else prove it way beyond any reasonable doubt.
Yes it is and no, they don't.Quote
Indoctrination in schools and colleges etc, is severe and keeps many people quite happy to simply follow something that should be so far out of logic as to be crystal clear to be complete and utter bollocks and yet the promise of a certificate keeps the mindset of most on acceptance of anything the idols/tutors/professors...etc...etc...etc, say.
If only you'd stayed in there long enough to get one.
You really shouldn't waste your time trying to convince me. I already know the global Earth is a massive load of old bullshit and no amount of your words will change that.
simple test, next time you're in a plane, ask the pilot to dip the nose now and then..A google search, hahahahahaha.
I'm guessing you won't be back with any results
some of these flat earth 'proofs' are absolutely shockingly ridiculous
here: a plane flies straight, gravity pulls it down, engine power keeps it up keeping it constant
a simple google search would explain this for you, it's hardly a difficult question
(...) no amount of your words will change that.What's the point of having a closed mind?
You really shouldn't waste your time trying to convince me. I already know the global Earth is a massive load of old bullshit and no amount of your words will change that.
oh so everything on Google is a conspiracy too? its not something that WOULD be hidden, I see you didn't attempt to actually replyThere's lots of things on google that will be true. There will be lots that are just guesses. There's also lost of stuff that is complete and utter crap, so citing google isn't a proof of anything, is it?
also, Google tells me that paper comes from trees, holy shit, I've been indoctrinated!! :O can you, with your infinite wisdom, explain to me where paper actually comes from?!?!
also, if you answer nothing else, please answer this:
do you believe in angels?
I could be wrong about many things. One thing I'm not wrong about, is the Earth not being a spinning globe. I'm 100% correct about that.You really shouldn't waste your time trying to convince me. I already know the global Earth is a massive load of old bullshit and no amount of your words will change that.
When you finally realise you were wrong, when that realisation smacks you right between the eyes that you were making a dick of yourself all those years on the internet, I want to make sure you won't be able to say "nobody told me...".
The autopilot/pilot is always making constant adjustments to correct for air currents. The small adjustments needed to keep the plane at the right altitude would be part of these.
Wrong, if you have ever been on a plane the flaps of the wings (aileron) never move not once at cruising level....
Wow. The fail of this thread is epic. I mean truly epic.
I concur. Although I am unable to explain this phenomenon (I have yet to take a school course in physics) I can assure you that planes do not constantly trim their flight to maintain altitude. Just as a rock that is tied to one's finger may be kept spinning about it, a plane that is pulled to the earth by the force of gravity will not just float off into space bacause it is going fast
As for your "evidence" in the form of hearing observations, there is no way that you could have heard a commercial jet's hydrolics from inside the cabin (which can be as loud as 86 decibels).