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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: narcberry on August 04, 2008, 11:01:00 PM

Title: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: narcberry on August 04, 2008, 11:01:00 PM
Many people have claimed to see a curvature of the earth from tall towers or from aircraft. Well the RE model is clear, such a curve is not observable at these low altitudes. What then are people seeing?

It is tempting to dismiss such observations as nonsense or nincompoopual, but they are quite possible.

The FE model demonstrates that the accelerating earth would act as a visible block from light reflected of the earth at far distances. Because of this, the viewable horizon of FE is much closer than that of FE. FE actually predicts a visible curve (the visible area being a disk and appearing curved) at much lower altitudes.

So when you are seeing a curve to the earth at such low altitudes, you are actually witnessing proof of the earth's flatness and it's acceleration upwards!
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: narcberry on August 05, 2008, 12:07:43 AM
I'm not surprised no RE'er has responded. They may as well admit their wrong.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: WardoggKC130FE on August 05, 2008, 12:13:13 AM
You can't see the curvature of the round earth from low altitudes.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: lindelof on August 05, 2008, 12:43:51 AM
The FE model demonstrates that the accelerating earth would act as a visible block from light reflected of the earth at far distances. Because of this, the viewable horizon of FE is much closer than that of FE. FE actually predicts a visible curve (the visible area being a disk and appearing curved) at much lower altitudes.

So when you are seeing a curve to the earth at such low altitudes, you are actually witnessing proof of the earth's flatness and it's acceleration upwards!

Someone has to argue this the next time some noob says they've seen the curvature of the Earth from a 5,000 feet.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: frostytwospoons on August 05, 2008, 01:45:17 AM
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/686640-Famous_Sunset_sunset_point_in_Oia_Valley-Fira.jpg)

Please explain...
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: frostytwospoons on August 05, 2008, 01:52:06 AM
(http://www.pwcs.edu/Bennett/labwork/Moon_phases_small.jpg)

Please explain...
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: frostytwospoons on August 05, 2008, 01:53:58 AM
I'm not surprised no RE'er has responded. They may as well admit their wrong.

I'm not suprised no FE theorist has responded. They may as well admit they're wrong.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: Fluffs on August 05, 2008, 01:57:40 AM
Ok.

Grab a soccer ball.... place your hand on it and spin it. Youl notice that There is always a curve created. You can only see half of the ball, but uknow its got another side.

Basically what your saying is because its impossible for the naked eye to view a sphere (that is indeed any sphere in existence) on all sides the same time, then it must be flat. Therefore any object that is 3D (well that jsut about everything) is infact Flat.

Because your basis of argument is that as you cannont see it, it cant be there.

Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: Hor-I-Son on August 05, 2008, 04:29:58 AM
I'm not surprised no RE'er has responded. They may as well admit their wrong.
they're

you academic types  :-\
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: Hotpoint on August 05, 2008, 05:39:52 AM
Many people have claimed to see a curvature of the earth from tall towers or from aircraft. Well the RE model is clear, such a curve is not observable at these low altitudes. What then are people seeing?

Indeed, one cannot see any curvature from such a low altitude, but you can from 60,000 feet. What was I seeing? (Please don't respond with "atmospheric refraction", I have already dismissed that response as nonsense.)
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: narcberry on August 05, 2008, 11:37:55 AM
What were you seeing indeed?
Maybe you'll need to give a little more information, as you've currently given none.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: Snaaaaake on August 05, 2008, 12:15:28 PM
Maybe you should provide proof to anything in the FE theory, which so far hasn't been done by anyone.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: lindelof on August 05, 2008, 12:35:28 PM
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/686640-Famous_Sunset_sunset_point_in_Oia_Valley-Fira.jpg)

Please explain...

Atmospheric refraction

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2736518118_50585678ee.jpg?v=0)

Light doesn't really travel in straight lines on a large scale all that much in Fe.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: lindelof on August 05, 2008, 12:37:02 PM
Many people have claimed to see a curvature of the earth from tall towers or from aircraft. Well the RE model is clear, such a curve is not observable at these low altitudes. What then are people seeing?

Indeed, one cannot see any curvature from such a low altitude, but you can from 60,000 feet. What was I seeing?

Atmospheric refraction/suns spotlight on the Earth.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: Kato on August 05, 2008, 12:38:43 PM
I like it, simple to the point and true.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: frostytwospoons on August 05, 2008, 12:55:39 PM
(http://cache.virtualtourist.com/686640-Famous_Sunset_sunset_point_in_Oia_Valley-Fira.jpg)

Please explain...

Atmospheric refraction

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/2736518118_50585678ee.jpg?v=0)

Light doesn't really travel in straight lines on a large scale all that much in Fe.
Thank you for your cute drawing. Two things,

1. This doesn't really explain why the horizon cuts a line accross the sun, exactly where the sun is refracted to appear from the position this picture was taken on earth.

2. If refraction was indeed in effect, the sun would not have such an obviously a flat base, it would have an oliptical apperance. And the base would be just as 'hazy' in appearence as the top of the sun (in the picture I supplied).

Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: narcberry on August 05, 2008, 04:00:57 PM
Let me know when you RE'ers can agree on something, then I'll bother debunking it.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: dclamp on August 05, 2008, 04:24:35 PM
i have a question. if the earth is flat, then it must have an end some where. can some one please go an take a picture of the end of the earth, i would like to see it.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: narcberry on August 05, 2008, 04:27:44 PM
Why don't you? You seem motivated.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: Fluffs on August 05, 2008, 05:42:26 PM
Hes trying to asatain some evidence in your claim.

Ive got no problem with you thinking the earth is flat just like i have no problem with christians beliving the world was created in 6 days.

But at least the christians didnt go "well if u want proof why dont u try and make the world in 6 days"

You seem to show no pride in FE other then telling others your right and their wrong.

Some proof other then a photo taking of the sun setting.

Proof would be: A FE supporter becoming an astronaut, going in to space and taking photos of the TRUE flat earth. and smuggling them back and exposing the world to it.

Not posting a picture of the sun and explaining medieval astronomy to me.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: sokarul on August 05, 2008, 05:46:05 PM
Let me know when you RE'ers can agree on something, then I'll bother debunking it.
I sure wish the fe'ers would do that.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: Fluffs on August 05, 2008, 05:52:42 PM
Fe's can agree on something.

They are right and the other 99.99999999999999% of the world is wrong.


Other then that they show Medieval astronomy to prove us wrong.
Title: Re: You see a curve? Proof of FE!
Post by: narcberry on August 08, 2008, 09:11:12 PM
Assuming 1 FE'er would still make your assertion invalid.