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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: fathomak on May 01, 2006, 05:10:11 PM

Title: Moon issues...
Post by: fathomak on May 01, 2006, 05:10:11 PM
I suppose the same would go for the sun.  You'll have to link to the picture to see what I've done, as there are a lot of diagrams that are needed to help explain what is being done.  Please forgive the crudeness and size of the image; I went through it very quickly (though it still took a while).  You'll probably notice the text got smaller as I went along.

This is basically taking note of the apparent sizes of the moon as viewed from two different perspectives on the flat earth, and how they conflict with what is actually observed.  I've read the FAQ, and I understand (at least I think I do) the optical illusion thing, but please read anyway, and feel free to ask any questions, as some of what I did may seem weird or vague.

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?6fb03bf45c.jpg
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: pHluid on May 01, 2006, 09:02:42 PM
I'm gonna throw out the obvious bone here...

The moon isn't a flat disc, but a convex one?
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: Svcen1988uk on May 01, 2006, 09:20:59 PM
Tis a shame really, a Viable point (didn't understand) and no responses.
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: fathomak on May 02, 2006, 05:49:43 PM
Why were all of the posts deleted?
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: pspunit on May 02, 2006, 05:57:25 PM
Quote from: "fathomak"
Why were all of the posts deleted?


They had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: Doubter on May 02, 2006, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: "pHluid"
I'm gonna throw out the obvious bone here...

The moon isn't a flat disc, but a convex one?


And the extreem of a convex shape is what?  A Sphere.

But if you look at the moon with a good telescope, you can see the shadows of the mountains and other features near the dark side of the moon.  You can also see part of the dark sided on anytime but a full moon.

Therefore the moon can not glow of it's own light, as is stated by the FAQ's
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: ROTARY on May 06, 2006, 04:48:33 PM
the moon is flat too it just looks round
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: fathomak on May 07, 2006, 03:19:06 PM
I'm not saying the flat moon wouldn't be round, I'm saying it would be distorted.  Look at the link in my first post.
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: fathomak on October 27, 2006, 08:27:48 PM
I'm gonna say "bump" because I never got a good reply for all of the time I wasted on that diagram.
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: woopedazz on October 27, 2006, 08:34:04 PM
twas a nice diagram
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: fathomak on October 27, 2006, 08:38:52 PM
Why, thank you.
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: msu320 on October 27, 2006, 10:24:42 PM
you may want to check up on the law of cosines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_cosines

you apply it to an scalene triangle (observer B), when the theorem applies to right triangles only.

BUT, the law of sines can handle non right triangles.

Also, a reliable way to measure the arc length of objects with eye sight would help.
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: fathomak on October 27, 2006, 11:08:49 PM
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you may want to check up on the law of cosines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_cosines

you apply it to an scalene triangle (observer B), when the theorem applies to right triangles only.


...uh, no, actually:

"In trigonometry, the law of cosines (also known as the cosine formula or cosine rule) is a statement about a general triangle which relates the lengths of its sides to the cosine of one of its angles." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_cosines

It would be redundant to have a cos(theta) term in an equation when we're confined to 90 degrees since cos(90) = 0 and the term would drop out anyway.  Just notice that when theta = 90 it becomes the Pythagorean equation.

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Also, a reliable way to measure the arc length of objects with eye sight would help.


I'm using basic geometry based on distance.  It wouldn't at all be necessary to measure the arc length to notice the distortion, although I'm sure one simple way to do it would be to measure the respective dimensions with a ruler at arms length.

(http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2735/crapko0.png)
Title: Moon issues...
Post by: woopedazz on October 27, 2006, 11:52:56 PM
maybe he was talking about thinking of the moon as a flat plain facing towards the earth? if u think of two parallel lines (one for a flat earth and one for a flat moon) and then form a triangle using the diameter of the moon as one side, and its opposing angle situated at a single point on the Earth's surface then a scalene triangle may be formed...

actually on second thoughts no...this wouldn't help his argument either...forget about it  :lol:  haha

however, by doing this, distances between the earth and moon could be predicted, and by making the measurements at different places on the earth it may be possible to show that if the moon was flat and was parallel to the earth then the distances would be impossible. thereby proving a round moon with its diameter always facing perpendicular to the observer (round moon), rather than parallel to the earth (flat moon).

mm, sorry bout not making that very clear, if i find time ill draw a few diagrams later on