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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: narcberry on April 23, 2007, 12:49:12 PM

Title: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: narcberry on April 23, 2007, 12:49:12 PM
Some people have insisted that the earth is round, since they feel a warmth in the light. This is not due to light carrying warmth. How could a massless wave have any warmth?

The truth is simple. Light acts as a catalyst for heat transfer. All around us is a warm earth, heated by its core. As light hits the skin, the skin can transfer more heat from neighboring particles. This is called the Photoconductive-heat method. It is also, ironically, not taught in your governmentally funded public schools of edunation (no that is not mispelled).

Heat comes from one place, beneath us.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 23, 2007, 12:52:07 PM
Well there's no such thing as heat so it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 23, 2007, 12:52:33 PM
I knew you couldn't stay away forever Makinzeeee. :-*
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on April 23, 2007, 12:53:49 PM
Yay she's back!
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: ∂G/∂x on April 23, 2007, 12:54:02 PM
Narcberry! Back with a bang I see. Sadly this is not a strong post for your return. Infra-red light, which is part of the light emitted by the sun (as is the ultraviolet - also massless - that burns your skin in summer), is radiated by all hot objects. This can be confirmed by its use in night vision and similar visible-light-free environments. There are cookers that use infra-red to heat up your food (http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/infracook.htm?E+scstore (http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/infracook.htm?E+scstore)). A massless particle/wave still contains energy. Higher kinetic energy in atom = higher temperature.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 23, 2007, 12:55:44 PM
You were expecting a strong post? ::)
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: ∂G/∂x on April 23, 2007, 12:57:26 PM
Oh I dunno. I liked the one with 'bubbles always go up'. Classic Narcberry...
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: narcberry on April 23, 2007, 12:57:50 PM
Narcberry! Back with a bang I see. Sadly this is not a strong post for your return. Infra-red light, which is part of the light emitted by the sun (as is the ultraviolet - also massless - that burns your skin in summer), is radiated by all hot objects. This can be confirmed by its use in night vision and similar visible-light-free environments. There are cookers that use infra-red to heat up your food (http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/infracook.htm?E+scstore (http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/infracook.htm?E+scstore)). A massless particle/wave still contains energy. Higher kinetic energy in atom = higher temperature.

Energy doesnt equate to temperature. And the cooker works exactly as described by Photoconductive-heat transfer.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: ∂G/∂x on April 23, 2007, 12:59:44 PM
Energy doesn't equate to temperature, but temperature is the manifestation of increased energy. It's not a huge leap of logic to get where an energetic wave can energise a particle. Just like UV does.

How does photoconductive-heat transfer work then?
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 23, 2007, 01:01:16 PM
What's the point of this thread again?
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: sanity on April 23, 2007, 01:01:38 PM
Is this a serious thread? Sorry if it's not, I'm not used to the FE sense of humour.
The Sun engages nuclear fusion - hydrogen to helium, to be precise - which makes bucketloads of electromagnetic radiation. Light is just one of them. Infrared and ultraviolet are also sent to Earth, which heat us up. There's have to be some nuclear reaction in the core going on to have sustained us for this long, but that would have killed us. The core heating us is impossible.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on April 23, 2007, 01:02:16 PM
It is also, ironically, not taught in your governmentally funded public schools of edunation (no that is not mispelled).


So what's edunation?
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: ∂G/∂x on April 23, 2007, 01:03:41 PM
If light waves could not impart energy then solar panels wouldn't work. Neither would...like...plants...or anything alive....
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: General Douchebag on April 23, 2007, 01:04:18 PM
What's the point of this thread again?

Who cares, The Narcmeister's back!

*Hugs Narcinator*
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 23, 2007, 01:04:46 PM
What's the point of this thread again?

The point is that Narcberry's back!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: narcberry on April 23, 2007, 01:06:19 PM
It is also, ironically, not taught in your governmentally funded public schools of edunation (no that is not mispelled).


So what's edunation?

The propoganda our nation instills in youth. You think you know something because a government told you it was so.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 23, 2007, 01:07:18 PM
Narcberry must have been around during the time I got-banned-and-never-came-back-for-a-few weeks because I don't remember he/she/it.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on April 23, 2007, 01:07:57 PM
It is also, ironically, not taught in your governmentally funded public schools of edunation (no that is not mispelled).


So what's edunation?

The propoganda our nation instills in youth. You think you know something because a government told you it was so.

The government told me that are a very smart person

Don't you remember Narc Kas? I vaguely do
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: ∂G/∂x on April 23, 2007, 01:08:14 PM
Anyone for a refutation? Narcberry? Answer my post?

Edit: Sorry everyone if you feel I take this too seriously, but my frustration with Tom being an idiot means I'm desperate for a change of debate...
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 23, 2007, 01:09:10 PM
I don't think I remember Narc, no. If this was the sort of stuff he/she/it posted then I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: Light is Warm?
Post by: sokarul on April 23, 2007, 01:09:28 PM
Who asked for narcberry to come back?  

Well here you go, narcberry.  
Light, as is all EMW, is energy.  Some have more energy then others.  When the UV rays from the sun hit you they transfer some energy to your skin cells.  When you skin cells get to hot they burn.  Simple as that.  There is no catalyst effect.  
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: ﮎingulaЯiτy on April 23, 2007, 04:56:48 PM
Some people have insisted that the earth is round, since they feel a warmth in the light. This is not due to light carrying warmth. How could a massless wave have any warmth?

The truth is simple. Light acts as a catalyst for heat transfer. All around us is a warm earth, heated by its core. As light hits the skin, the skin can transfer more heat from neighboring particles. This is called the Photoconductive-heat method. It is also, ironically, not taught in your governmentally funded public schools of edunation (no that is not mispelled).

Heat comes from one place, beneath us.

Where's your proof for this?! Without any, it's speculation claimed as fact.
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Mr. Ireland on April 23, 2007, 05:00:36 PM
This is called the Photoconductive-heat method. It is also, ironically, not taught in your governmentally funded public schools of edunation (no that is not mispelled).

I'm learning that either this or next week in my physics class.
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 23, 2007, 05:02:24 PM
I'd also like to know why parts of the Earth that don't get much sunlight tend to be very, very cold...
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Game_Guru777 on April 23, 2007, 05:21:01 PM
Another thing; Why does it get colder in the winter? The Round Earth fact is that the sun gets further away? If all heat comes from earth then why does the temperature change? Does the Earth 'magically' distribute heat depending on where it is winter and where it is summer? Wouldn't it be the same temp all year round everywhere?
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on April 23, 2007, 05:23:34 PM
Actually narcy did say that the light is needed for the heat anyway, as its a catalyst, so that would explain places without much sunlight being cold
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 23, 2007, 05:25:31 PM
Yeah but that's a load of bollocks so I chose to ignore it lol
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: sokarul on April 23, 2007, 05:27:49 PM
Actually narcy did say that the light is needed for the heat anyway, as its a catalyst, so that would explain places without much sunlight being cold
How would the heat from inside the earth come to the surface?  No light gets to it.  He just pulled something out of his ass to try and explain something. 
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on April 23, 2007, 05:28:36 PM
Well yeah its bollocks but was just pointing out what the post said...
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 23, 2007, 05:30:21 PM
Yeah it also said "only one place heat comes from and that's below us" so I was a little confused as to how cold places ever get cold :P
Title: Re: Photoconductive-heat method
Post by: Lulaya on April 23, 2007, 07:02:42 PM
You misunderstand photoconductivity.

Photoconductivity is very real, as we see its use in photocopying and heat seeking missiles.

To cause excitation the light that strikes the semiconductor (Human) must have enough energy to raise electrons across the forbidden bandgap or by exciting the impurities within the bandgap.

Because of this:

In order for photoductivity to occur on humans, they must be in thermal equilibrium with the incoming light rays, having free moving electrons and holes.

Even if humans were able to accept these light rays free and without resistance, they could not accept the heat molecules from the earth's core. Accepting heat while under this process would overturn thermal equilibrium. Thermal equilibrium would then try to balance itself, raising the human's body temperature to well over the limits of life.