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Title: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: i_feel_tiredsleepy on April 11, 2007, 06:30:24 PM
Hello, ok so magnetotaxic bacteria are bacteria that move along magnetic field lines, and have been heavily studied.
How does this relate to the Earth being round? Well in the northern hemisphere the MTBs (magnetotaxic bacteria) swim along magnetic field lines towards the north end, and the ones in the southern do the opposite.  In the wild this locates them along the bottom edges of lakes facing the pole, this can only be explained by the inclination of a round earth.  If the earth were flat and they were swimming towards a fixed pole, then they would not concentrate downwards, but would just concentrate all along one side of a lake.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: ∂G/∂x on April 11, 2007, 06:46:56 PM
Conspirator! Read the FAQ. I know theres nothing about Magnetotaxic bacteria in there, but that's because your argument is valid. Valid arguments belong out there! *points towards the light outside*
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: i_feel_tiredsleepy on April 20, 2007, 09:34:34 AM
I wish someone would atleast try to prove me wrong T_T. bump :D
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 20, 2007, 09:53:18 AM
I don't see how this conflicts with the FE.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: i_feel_tiredsleepy on April 20, 2007, 10:15:33 AM
I wish I could draw a diagram, but anyway.  Since the bacteria move directly towards the poles, and since the earth curves.  A straight line towards the pole from any point goes through the ground.  So, the fact that the bacteria orient themselves downward and towards poles implies that the earth curves and is round.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: DakaSha on April 20, 2007, 10:22:16 AM
yeah but so does the horizon :P
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 20, 2007, 01:14:40 PM
I wish I could draw a diagram, but anyway.  Since the bacteria move directly towards the poles, and since the earth curves.  A straight line towards the pole from any point goes through the ground.  So, the fact that the bacteria orient themselves downward and towards poles implies that the earth curves and is round.
The poles are underground in the FE, also.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: i_feel_tiredsleepy on April 20, 2007, 02:50:02 PM
Yes, but the positions of the bacteria would be different on a flat earth.  On a round Earth, as you move along a constant latitude the angle which the bacteria swim at is relatively constant, as the distance from the bacteria to the core of the earth, and from the bacteria to the pole is constant.  Now on a flat earth, assuming that these underground poles are at a constant fixed point.  As you moved along the same latitude the angle which the bacteria swim at would change since the distance from the bacteria to the underground pole would change.  This would result in a smaller and smaller angle as you moved away from the pole, thus the bacteria would no longer be orienting themselves downward, however the bacteria do so there.  I hope this all made sense it would be easier with diagrams >.<
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 20, 2007, 05:56:59 PM
I thought you said they align themselves with the field lines?  Now they point at the core?  How do they know where it is?
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: i_feel_tiredsleepy on April 20, 2007, 06:06:39 PM
I was just using the core of the earth as a point of a large triangle to show that as you move along a latitude the distance to the pole stays constant, as well as the distance to the core, so the angle is constant.  In a flat earth the angle would get smaller and then the bacteria at the extremes of the flat earth would increasingly be more directed towards the surface, but they aren't.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 20, 2007, 08:12:09 PM
The angle would be getting greater the closer to the pole you get.  Same as RE, and FE.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: sheepofdarkness on April 20, 2007, 10:07:49 PM
If FE theory can explain compass needles, then it can explain magnetotaxic bacteria.  There's really no difference.  Basically FE theory rearranges the magnetic poles so that the magnetic field lines are exactly the same as those on a hypothetical RE.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 21, 2007, 08:09:09 AM
It's a good argument seeing as I've yet to see how the flat Earth's magnetic field would work.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 21, 2007, 08:09:59 AM
It's a good argument seeing as I've yet to see how the flat Earth's magnetic field would work.
Just like it does on the RE.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 21, 2007, 08:13:31 AM
Impossible, the field would have to be denser in the middle than at the edges.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 21, 2007, 09:03:52 AM
Yep.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 21, 2007, 09:07:01 AM
Which means at the south pole the field is way, way less dense than at the north pole. Which it isn't.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 21, 2007, 09:09:10 AM
No, the field is the same at the poles.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on April 21, 2007, 09:23:38 AM
Well your knowledge of magnetic fields is better than mine so you'll have to explain because I don't understand it.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: i_feel_tiredsleepy on April 22, 2007, 05:30:52 PM
The angle would be getting greater the closer to the pole you get.  Same as RE, and FE.

Closer to the pole is longitude, along a latidunal line, such as the equator the angle would stay the same on a round earth, but on a flat earth it would get smaller.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheOtherTom on April 22, 2007, 08:08:10 PM
Perhaps from millions of years of magnetic field lines passing through it, the ice wall itself acquired a magnetic charge.  That is, the part of the ice wall above the earth became a south pole, and the part below the earth became a north pole.  And there is no reason to suppose the ice wall does not extend below the surface of flat earth.
Title: Re: Magnetotaxic Bacteria as evidence for a RE
Post by: TheEngineer on April 22, 2007, 11:57:51 PM
The angle would be getting greater the closer to the pole you get.  Same as RE, and FE.

Closer to the pole is longitude, along a latidunal line, such as the equator the angle would stay the same on a round earth, but on a flat earth it would get smaller.
Why would the equator get closer to the pole on the FE?