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Title: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: kinereoj on March 22, 2007, 08:39:41 AM
I have a challenge for anyone who actually thinks there is a legitimate debate on this topic. Set up a very heavy pendulum somewhere, but make sure it is free to rotate if it feels any forces on it.

Guess what . . . it WILL rotate (unless you live at the equator). There is only explanation for this rotation . . . the earth is spinning. A spinning earth is a non-intertial reference frame. Therefore, the pendulum will try to remain oriented in the same direction by spining in the opposite direction relative to the surface of the earth.

Now, after you do that and you are convinced that the earth is spinning I have a second experiment for you to do, but it's going to require some traveling.

Record the period of rotation. That is, time how long it takes for your pendulum to spin around one time. Now go to a different lattitude and time it again. You will notice that the closer you get to the North Pole, the period of rotation will approach 24 hours (the period of rotation of the earth). The closer you get to the equator, it will approach infinity (it will not spin). If you do not have access to either of these places, you will simply notice that as you go north, it will spin faster. If you can get sound of the equator, it will spin the opposite direction.

There is no explanation other than RE theory for these effects occuring in precisely this way. Theory proven . . . everyone else go home!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: dysfunction on March 22, 2007, 01:07:40 PM
A rotating Earth and a flat Earth are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 22, 2007, 03:29:54 PM
The rotating disk would give different sets of results than a rotating sphere though, I think that's the point of this experiment. 
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Franc T., Planar on March 22, 2007, 03:34:42 PM
1. A pendulum is rotating.
2. ? ? ?
3. ROUND EARTH!

Your reasoning is pretty much like those psychic bullshitters who claim they can move pendulums with their minds.

In both cases, the explanation is mundane. The ambient wind, temperature changes, movements of the subject, etc... explain rotation very well.

Round Earthism is a religion with zero evidence.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Midnight on March 22, 2007, 03:36:31 PM
Round Earthism is a religion with zero evidence.


That was neat.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: YourAverageJoe on March 22, 2007, 05:08:36 PM
I've got proof: When you see a ship approaching from somewhere very far, you don't see it fade in, like it would when exiting fog. No, you see how it first rises, as if climbing a slope, while approaching you.

This has been seen by sailors and related peoples for milleniae. Alternative: Go on a cruise, and watch as the land rises out from the horizon when you approach it.

The earth's rotation around the sun? Just put up a camera somewhere, making sure to get a good view of the night sky, while still having some environment in the shot as a referrence point. If you take a picture every night for about six months, you'll see that the first picture is very different from the first one, and that you can clearly see the night sky "moving" if you can set them up as one frame each in an animation (Flash? MovieMaker?)

Funny thing is, these two experiments are both pretty old, and have been redone millions of times for all kinds of educational films and such.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Franc T., Planar on March 22, 2007, 05:13:00 PM
I've got proof: When you see a ship approaching from somewhere very far, you don't see it fade in, like it would when exiting fog. No, you see how it first rises, as if climbing a slope, while approaching you.

Actually, I have never seen that, and neither have any of the FEers on this board.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Ireland on March 23, 2007, 06:18:39 AM
I've got proof: When you see a ship approaching from somewhere very far, you don't see it fade in, like it would when exiting fog. No, you see how it first rises, as if climbing a slope, while approaching you.

Actually, I have never seen that, and neither have any of the FEers on this board.

Have you ever looked?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: kinereoj on March 23, 2007, 07:41:40 AM
It's very simple to explain how it works. A swinging pendulum, if it is free to rotate, will remain at rest in an inertial reference frame. That is, it will remain at rest compared to the distant stars. Relative to the surface of the earth, it will rotate about its axis, trying to stay at rest in the inertial frame (relative to the distant stars).

That only proves the earth is spinning. You are correct that it does not prove that it's round. However, you will discover that the speed at which it rotates depends purely on latitude. It doesn't spin at all on the equator. In the southern hemisphere it spins the other direction. At the poles it spins the fastest (once per 24 hours).

If it is the wind that's making it rotate you wouldn't get precisely the same result everytime. Franc T., Planer . . . none of the things you mentioned precisely explain that rotation in any way at all.

It figures, you FE'ers are satisfied with explainations that completely suck. They make explain things in your little imaginary world, but we scientists have to solve things for real in the grown-up world.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Ireland on March 23, 2007, 08:45:44 AM
It's very simple to explain how it works. A swinging pendulum, if it is free to rotate, will remain at rest in an inertial reference frame. That is, it will remain at rest compared to the distant stars. Relative to the surface of the earth, it will rotate about its axis, trying to stay at rest in the inertial frame (relative to the distant stars).

That only proves the earth is spinning. You are correct that it does not prove that it's round. However, you will discover that the speed at which it rotates depends purely on latitude. It doesn't spin at all on the equator. In the southern hemisphere it spins the other direction. At the poles it spins the fastest (once per 24 hours).

If it is the wind that's making it rotate you wouldn't get precisely the same result everytime. Franc T., Planer . . . none of the things you mentioned precisely explain that rotation in any way at all.

It figures, you FE'ers are satisfied with explainations that completely suck. They make explain things in your little imaginary world, but we scientists have to solve things for real in the grown-up world.

I don't think Franc's theory of the earth spins being it's an infinite plane.  He's just angry and desperatly searching for reasoning to support his beliefs, which he has no evidence of.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 23, 2007, 08:50:38 AM
Best to ignore Francois's answers, he's in some crazy little flat world of his own.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 23, 2007, 08:52:57 AM
I find myself skipping past threads in which he has posted.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 23, 2007, 08:54:42 AM
Nah I like reading his posts, but I dont think of them as FE answers
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Ireland on March 23, 2007, 08:55:22 AM
I find myself skipping past threads in which he has posted.

Well I find myself telling him to show evidence everytime I see his replies.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 23, 2007, 09:14:06 AM
I'm all for spam but when it's not funny, repetetive and dull - well it's just annoying.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Ireland on March 23, 2007, 09:15:08 AM
Good point.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Miss M. on March 23, 2007, 10:00:20 AM
Nah I like reading his posts, but I dont think of them as FE answers
I think of them as...dunno. Not quite spam, cause it's a tirade that causes bannage.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 23, 2007, 10:03:51 AM
Nah I like reading his posts, but I dont think of them as FE answers
I think of them as...dunno. Not quite spam, cause it's a tirade that causes bannage.

They're not spam, they're just, well, odd
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 23, 2007, 10:04:46 AM
Every thread he posts in he takes it off topic with his plane earth bullshit. I only want to see FE bullshit.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Franc T., Planar on March 23, 2007, 01:55:14 PM
I find myself skipping past threads in which he has posted.

Keep skipping, troll. We don't want you to post here. Get along and go to another board.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Tobias on March 23, 2007, 02:03:04 PM
ok moving on swiftly.. on a simalar subject do you know if physics guy is an FE'er cause some of the stuff (especially pics) he posts look like they are seriously just taking the piss!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mary Lou Johnson on March 23, 2007, 05:21:08 PM
I've got proof: When you see a ship approaching from somewhere very far, you don't see it fade in, like it would when exiting fog. No, you see how it first rises, as if climbing a slope, while approaching you.

This has been seen by sailors and related peoples for milleniae. Alternative: Go on a cruise, and watch as the land rises out from the horizon when you approach it.

The earth's rotation around the sun? Just put up a camera somewhere, making sure to get a good view of the night sky, while still having some environment in the shot as a referrence point. If you take a picture every night for about six months, you'll see that the first picture is very different from the first one, and that you can clearly see the night sky "moving" if you can set them up as one frame each in an animation (Flash? MovieMaker?)

Funny thing is, these two experiments are both pretty old, and have been redone millions of times for all kinds of educational films and such.
The stars move idiot. ever seen a metero shower??
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Franc T., Planar on March 23, 2007, 05:29:42 PM
The stars move idiot. ever seen a metero shower??

Hahahahahaha

You seriously believe that "shooting stars" are actual stars?

Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mary Lou Johnson on March 23, 2007, 07:49:52 PM
The stars move idiot. ever seen a metero shower??

Hahahahahaha

You seriously believe that "shooting stars" are actual stars?


Aren't they? they r afterall shooting stars.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: TheEngineer on March 23, 2007, 07:50:29 PM
Uh...no.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Franc T., Planar on March 23, 2007, 07:53:12 PM
WORST. POSTER. EVER.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mary Lou Johnson on March 23, 2007, 08:21:12 PM
WORST. POSTER. EVER.
that's mean. and how do you know they arent stars?!?!?!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: TheEngineer on March 23, 2007, 08:59:08 PM
Stars tend to be rather large, and I think we would notice if the earth hit one...
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Cobra585 on March 23, 2007, 09:25:27 PM
Stars tend to be rather large, and I think we would notice if the earth hit one...
So maybe its a small miniature star. You can't prove that it isn't can you? according to your logic about the shape of our planet nothing in space can be proven since NASA is involved in mostly everything we know about space. I'm not saying I agree with him but if you want to be consistent then you should be saying he has a point. of course none of these flat earth arguments are consistent anyway.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: YourAverageJoe on March 24, 2007, 03:43:39 AM
The stars move idiot. ever seen a metero shower??

Hahahahahaha

You seriously believe that "shooting stars" are actual stars?


Aren't they? they r afterall shooting stars.

Normal stars are massive globes of hydrogen that's constantly fusing to create helium...or so the story says. Shooting stars are big clumps of ice that got left out back when our solar system was still in its birth years.

If you don't believe NASA, you could at least believe the hundreds of thousands of star-watchers and enthusiasts that made independant studies that support these two notions.

On a final note: yes, stars move, really fast actually, but the earth's too far away for anyone who hasn't been looking for a very long time (tens of years) to notice.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 24, 2007, 04:45:27 AM
So when I was wish on a shooting star I'm wishing on a lie? No wonder I never got that damn pony!  >:(
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 24, 2007, 04:56:38 AM
I wished for a pony and the next morning I had £25 under my pillow.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Miss M. on March 24, 2007, 05:10:06 AM
Maybe the star mal-functioned?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 24, 2007, 05:13:08 AM
Damn you Kasroa, I didnt even get money!

Farking malfunctioning stars *mutters angrily*
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Geordi la Forge on March 24, 2007, 05:58:01 AM
I wished for a pony and the next morning I had £25 under my pillow.

Thats almost $50 American!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: inuyashakusho on March 24, 2007, 05:36:20 PM
The pendulum merely spinning, doesn't actually prove a round earth.  The FE'er's are correct (EEEEEEEEEEEK!!!!  :-X) However, the Faulcout pendulum does not merely "rotate" anywhere, the fact that it infact does NOT rotate is the proof.  Anywhere directly on the equator, a Foucault Pendulum, does not function properly.  Why would it not rotate of FE, the Equator is not, gravitationally anything special in that fantasy world.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Darkfrog on March 25, 2007, 03:11:56 PM
BTW, when is the next good meteor shower? I tried for the Geminids and the Leonids last year but was quite disappointed. The last really good one I remember was a storm in 2001, I think those were the Leonids then, saw about 8-12/minute during the peak and saw at least 3 good fireballs.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: katmarie on March 25, 2007, 03:52:57 PM
BTW, when is the next good meteor shower? I tried for the Geminids and the Leonids last year but was quite disappointed. The last really good one I remember was a storm in 2001, I think those were the Leonids then, saw about 8-12/minute during the peak and saw at least 3 good fireballs.
I know there's a rather nice one mid-to late august, in the southern Ontario area. That's not exactly soon, but if you ever get the chance go watch it it's amazing. I saw about 20 nice ones in one night.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mary Lou Johnson on March 25, 2007, 03:54:08 PM
Stars tend to be rather large, and I think we would notice if the earth hit one...
So maybe its a small miniature star. You can't prove that it isn't can you? according to your logic about the shape of our planet nothing in space can be proven since NASA is involved in mostly everything we know about space. I'm not saying I agree with him but if you want to be consistent then you should be saying he has a point. of course none of these flat earth arguments are consistent anyway.
thnk you. btw im a gurl.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 03:55:58 PM
Girl?

This way please ------> Non-FE-Related boards
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 04:39:45 PM
I hate posting irrelevent stuff, but i have to.

Franc, you have no life.  no one likes you, you have no friends, and your psychotic ramblings only serve to further your stupid BS hypotheses/views which have no backing and are considered non-sensical in all scientific fields.  The only way you could help this site would be for you to leave, because your posts do not further the discussion, and most people ignore you anyways.  the only reason why i'm not ignoring you is to help you understand why your life hasn't furthered any more than it has.  I'm sorry, you weren't meant to live.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 04:40:51 PM
Okay Mr 5-posts!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 04:43:12 PM
while it is true that i am a new member, i've been reading posts for months now...i just never really cared to join until i got really bored today :)
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 04:44:53 PM
Best choice you ever made but you got look further down towards the off-topic boards :P
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 04:46:21 PM
and kas, i could have more posts if i posted a lot of nonrelevant agreements and disagreements like you do ;)
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 25, 2007, 04:47:41 PM
and kas, i could have more posts if i posted a lot of nonrelevant agreements and disagreements like you do ;)

HAH! Brilliant, i like you already!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 04:47:51 PM
Link please..
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 04:48:44 PM
Not like there's any science to talk about :(
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 04:52:32 PM
if i provide links (which i as well as any other member here could do) you will only say that i'm 'not talking science' which you've already stated and i don't want to offend you further...plus i'm really lazy
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 04:53:44 PM
links to me posting none-relevant aggreements and disagreements I meant
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 04:59:36 PM
find them yourself
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: narcberry on March 25, 2007, 05:00:13 PM
Cant you RE'ers get along?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:01:32 PM
And how can an agreement or a disagreement even be non-relevant?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:02:23 PM
can't you FE'er's understand reality?  and look at this...i've already doubled my amount of posts since 30 mins ago...kas should be proud of me!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 25, 2007, 05:02:43 PM
Cant you RE'ers get along?

Nope ;D
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:04:40 PM
can't you FE'er's understand reality?  and look at this...i've already doubled my amount of posts since 30 mins ago...kas should be proud of me!

5 posts in 30 minutes is a disgrace.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:05:47 PM
if the relevency of the original topic is questionable then surely an agreement/disagreement would be barely relevant...and besides, agreeing/disagreeing only has the application of attempting to strengthen an argument, so inherently simply agreeing/disagreeing truly has no purpose but to explain what you think, and if you want to get off on that tangent, relevency is sheerly up to one's perception, so you can make it relevent or non-relevent based on your mental standing of the situation
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:06:33 PM
you're a disgrace
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: narcberry on March 25, 2007, 05:07:54 PM
Woot, postcount++
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:09:14 PM
lol thanks narc  ;D
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:13:14 PM
if the relevency of the original topic is questionable then surely an agreement/disagreement would be barely relevant...and besides, agreeing/disagreeing only has the application of attempting to strengthen an argument, so inherently simply agreeing/disagreeing truly has no purpose but to explain what you think, and if you want to get off on that tangent, relevency is sheerly up to one's perception, so you can make it relevent or non-relevent based on your mental standing of the situation

An agreement or disagreement can be nothing but relevant to the subject you are agreeing with or disagreeing with. Unless you think I've made a post, somewhere, analogous to this example:

Person A: I like Cornflakes; my favourite breakfast. They are the best don't you think?

Me: I disagree, I think a Bear would beat a Tiger in a fight.

Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 25, 2007, 05:14:50 PM
I do think a bear would beat a tiger in a fight
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:16:44 PM
unless of course it's a siberian tiger...those things will kick the shit out of anything
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:16:54 PM
I agree, increasing tax on high-emissions vehicles really won't stop people buying them.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:18:50 PM
I agree, increasing tax on high-emissions vehicles really won't stop people buying them.

there [wo]man, there's your non relevant agreement.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:20:09 PM
Oh damn he got me.

And you've been reading for weeks and know about all these non-relevant posts I've supposedly made but....

don't know my gender?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 25, 2007, 05:22:44 PM
Kasroa is a hairy woman
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:22:53 PM
nope i don't know your gender...i don't care about it, therefore i don't know.  and i'm lazy as i stated before, and that quote was the most readily accessible :)
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: narcberry on March 25, 2007, 05:23:55 PM
I wish you guys would focus your attention to the arguments at hand... We need you RE'ers to band together if theres ever hope of you contributing to a valid argument against FE.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:24:23 PM
You don't have to care about it to know.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:25:12 PM
LOL that was uncalled for...but as the general has WAYYYY more posts than me and since as kas insinuated the more posts you have the more you know about the site, i have to believe the general.  ;D
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:25:56 PM
narc you're so full of shit your eyes are brown...and don't say they aren't, i know they are...
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:27:12 PM
But I am a hairy woman.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 25, 2007, 05:27:27 PM
LOL that was uncalled for...but as the general has WAYYYY more posts than me and since as kas insinuated the more posts you have the more you know about the site, i have to believe the general.  ;D

Yeah believe me I know everything ;D I am the Mod's favourite...
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: piggystart on March 25, 2007, 05:28:32 PM
then, kas, i feel sorry for you.  god has cursed you, may he reward you in heaven.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Kasroa Is Gone on March 25, 2007, 05:29:27 PM
It is a blessing not a curse. Jealous.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Colonel Gaydafi on March 25, 2007, 05:29:54 PM
Kasroa is proud of her beard, she is planning on joining a travelling freak show in the near future
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Post by: RAmenBrother on March 25, 2007, 07:43:43 PM
I find it mildly amusing that people line narcberry see the Flat Earth society as this juggernaut slowly picking up momentum, like some sleeping dragon that no longer wishes to play the underdog and is in a position to take over the whole world. That is simply not the case.

In case it escaped your notice, there are very few of you, and your numbers are declining. Hell, scientology is more popular than you guys. And I generally don't trust societies based on incompetent, senile inventors (Rowbotham), who was then forcibly replaced by a cruel, heartless tyrant (Voliva) who used the raw labour of his followers in his Zion Industries front.

Yep, sounds like the cradle of truth and justice to me.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Darkfrog on March 26, 2007, 11:10:54 AM
BTW, when is the next good meteor shower? I tried for the Geminids and the Leonids last year but was quite disappointed. The last really good one I remember was a storm in 2001, I think those were the Leonids then, saw about 8-12/minute during the peak and saw at least 3 good fireballs.
I know there's a rather nice one mid-to late august, in the southern Ontario area. That's not exactly soon, but if you ever get the chance go watch it it's amazing. I saw about 20 nice ones in one night.
The August shower I believe is the Perseids from comet Swift-Tuttle. There have been some great Perseids, but none in the last few years that I remember. There was supposed to be a good one in 2004 but my area had too much cloud cover. Last year, they hit during a bright moon phase which made viewing difficult.

I wonder how many astronomical observers are in this forum. A real fun thing to attempt is a Messier Marathon. This year the best time was just over a week ago during the new moon. It is the one time of year when all 110 Messier deep-sky objects can be seen in one night. Due to the rotation of the Earth (don't know how the FE people explain this), you have start right at sundown to get those like M77 and M74 that dip away in the west right after the sun and go until sunrise. I have never completed one, but I'm not as proficient as finding and positively identifying them as I could be.

So does anyone else routinely go out with telescope viewing?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: YourAverageJoe on March 27, 2007, 10:38:50 AM
Stars tend to be rather large, and I think we would notice if the earth hit one...
So maybe its a small miniature star. You can't prove that it isn't can you? according to your logic about the shape of our planet nothing in space can be proven since NASA is involved in mostly everything we know about space. I'm not saying I agree with him but if you want to be consistent then you should be saying he has a point. of course none of these flat earth arguments are consistent anyway.

Have you any idea how small a star can be? Look at Jupiter, a massive globe of gasses, riddled with inhumane storms only because of its insane gravity. It's multiple times bigger than the earth. Even then, it's not nearly massive enough to be a star. How the hell do you suppose an object that's hundreds of times bigger than the earth to hit it without us noticing!?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: RAmenBrother on March 27, 2007, 11:50:44 AM
That's an interesting point. Since NASA is a large parto of the conspiracy, why believe ANYTHING they say about the universe, including the requirements of a star or other stellar object? Hell, it could be a cover-up for an even BIGGER theory than flat earth... maybe a flat universe!
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Tobias on March 27, 2007, 11:54:53 AM
now you are just being silly :)
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: YourAverageJoe on March 27, 2007, 04:01:57 PM
Because even if NASA were to hold up a conspiracy to "hide" the "truth" about the Earth's shape, how do you explain the hundreds of thousands of independant studies that support their so-called "conspiracy?" And, on that note, how could they change history books that tell of the Earth's shape's discoveries, decades before NASA was born?
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: CommonCents on March 27, 2007, 04:12:11 PM
Because even if NASA were to hold up a conspiracy to "hide" the "truth" about the Earth's shape, how do you explain the hundreds of thousands of independant studies that support their so-called "conspiracy?" And, on that note, how could they change history books that tell of the Earth's shape's discoveries, decades before NASA was born?

Fisheye lenses probably...crafty bastards
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: sokarul on March 29, 2007, 12:18:38 PM
This thread is full of worthless posts.  So someone recap how fe'ers explain Foucault Pendulum.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Midnight on March 29, 2007, 12:19:06 PM
I find myself skipping past threads in which he has posted.

Keep skipping, troll. We don't want you to post here. Get along and go to another board.

(http://beerbaron.kibblesnbits.net/SA/Macros/wambulance0eo.jpg)
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: CommonCents on March 29, 2007, 12:26:37 PM
Franc's reply:
In both cases, the explanation is mundane. The ambient wind, temperature changes, movements of the subject, etc... explain rotation very well.

Other dude's reply:
A rotating Earth and a flat Earth are not mutually exclusive.



Only 2 I saw reading it over...both on the first page.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: sokarul on March 29, 2007, 05:00:40 PM
Thanks.

The problem with dumb ass francs reply is that the experiment would work in a vacuum.  And the problem with the other reply is that according the FE model the earth doesn’t rotate.  The sun magically spins above the Earth.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Ireland on March 30, 2007, 08:51:17 AM
Thanks.

The problem with dumb ass francs reply is that the experiment would work in a vacuum.  And the problem with the other reply is that according the FE model the earth doesn’t rotate.  The sun magically spins above the Earth.


The earth rotates.  But how the sun/moon move is still unkown.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Midnight on March 30, 2007, 10:04:53 AM
Thanks.

The problem with dumb ass francs reply is that the experiment would work in a vacuum.  And the problem with the other reply is that according the FE model the earth doesn’t rotate.  The sun magically spins above the Earth.


The earth rotates.  But how the sun/moon move is still unkown.

More than that is unknown in this crap.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: narcberry on April 02, 2007, 01:36:10 PM
Thanks.

The problem with dumb ass francs reply is that the experiment would work in a vacuum.  And the problem with the other reply is that according the FE model the earth doesn’t rotate.  The sun magically spins above the Earth.


The earth rotates.  But how the sun/moon move is still unkown.

More than that is unknown in this crap.

The problem isnt that there are so many unknowns. The problem is that there are so many lazy posters that suggest problems without using the search and seeing the solution before they ask the question.
Title: Re: I have PROOF of RE theory!!!!!
Post by: Human on April 02, 2007, 11:25:13 PM
Round Earthism is a religion with zero evidence.

Actually "Round Earthism" as you put it,
Does have evidence.
You simply claim it is all a hoax and try to provide counter evidence.
I could just as easily claim "Flat Earthism" is a hoax
or that "Flat Earthism is a religion with zero evidence."