The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: m888 on March 16, 2007, 05:39:06 AM
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In your Flat Earth model, does the moon emit it's own light?
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If I didn't misunderstand the FAQ, yes. Cold light.
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yeah but what the hell is 'cold light'?!
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Light which is not warm.
(It all makes so much sense when you try to dumb it down as much as possible...)
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so what do they think the sun and moon are made of?
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Light which is not warm.
(It all makes so much sense when you try to dumb it down as much as possible...)
But I dont understand how light can be cold, everything I know about light is that its pretty warm really
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so what do they think the sun and moon are made of?
Cheese?
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like on wallace and gromit? that would be awesome.
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Though to be fair, on wallace and gromit it's really made out of dough...
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Cold is just the absense of heat. Some of the lgiht reflected from the moon is thermal radiation (heat). Cold light is more of a generalization of the lack of thermal radiation from the moon.
What does moon cheese taste like? How is it cultured? is it made like feta?
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Oh come on ppl
Every self-respecting non-bogus honest FE'er knows very good that there is no such thing as the moon...
What we call moon is actually a black&white reflection of EARTH from the outer layers of the atmosphere. It just looses its color on the way because atmosphere is not such a good mirror. And you cant see it in the morning because an atmosphere doesnt reflect unless its dark.
Even with naked eye you can see the outlines of the continents... And it's why we only see one side of the moon - We always see our side's reflection of course!!! QED
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Oh come on ppl
Every self-respecting non-bogus honest FE'er knows very good that there is no such thing as the moon...
What we call moon is actually a black&white reflection of EARTH from the outer layers of the atmosphere. It just looses its color on the way because atmosphere is not such a good mirror. And you cant see it in the morning because an atmosphere doesnt reflect unless its dark.
Even with naked eye you can see the outlines of the continents... And it's why we only see one side of the moon - We always see our side's reflection of course!!! QED
Yeah. And Ney York really does look like a big apple.
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There is no such thing as cold light. All light provides some thermal energy through photons bombarding the surface.
The moon exists. There are no reflections of our earth in the atmosphere - if it were so, it would be much more fixed. What is providing that light, anyway? Why does the presence of the sun not matter?
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Oh come on ppl
Every self-respecting non-bogus honest FE'er knows very good that there is no such thing as the moon...
What we call moon is actually a black&white reflection of EARTH from the outer layers of the atmosphere. It just looses its color on the way because atmosphere is not such a good mirror. And you cant see it in the morning because an atmosphere doesnt reflect unless its dark.
Even with naked eye you can see the outlines of the continents... And it's why we only see one side of the moon - We always see our side's reflection of course!!! QED
Oh man that's a good one! Seriously I think that could be the funniest thing I've read on this site since Franc started telling us about Blinko the Wanderer.
First off, I often see the moon in the mornings.
Second, get a map of the world. Your part of the world. Compare it with the moon and tell me if you see the same shapes.
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I'd also like to see where the huge crators that riddle the surface of the moon are on Earth, as it is a mirror image. I'd also like to know how universities around the world can continue to measure the distance to the moon with lasers using the several mirrors that were placed on the moon in the Apollo missions. I guess every university is in on this Spherical Earth theory conspiracy too.
This is why we see the same face of the moon all the time:
http://starryskies.com/The_sky/events/lunar-2003/eclipse9.html
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All light causes heat. Even moonlight.
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c'mon people
I'd like some FE input here please... What's your stance on the moon?
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In your Flat Earth model, does the moon emit it's own light?
No.
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so it reflects sunlight?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
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It remits, like FE theory with every new challenge.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
But the sun(s) are the same distance from the earth as the moon right? so it (they) shine directly down and also have another "offshoot" of light over to the moon?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
But the sun(s) are the same distance from the earth as the moon right? so it (they) shine directly down and also have another "offshoot" of light over to the moon?
No, the suns are farther away from the moon.
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I have elaborated on Franc's explanation.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/SNBart/Reflectionmadeeasy.jpg)
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lol Magneto!
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I have elaborated on Franc's explanation.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/SNBart/Reflectionmadeeasy.jpg)
What are these "space mirrors"? There are no "space mirrors."
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But Magneto, that's right isn't it Frenchy? We don't want to make any mistakes with this thing.
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I have elaborated on Franc's explanation.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/SNBart/Reflectionmadeeasy.jpg)
What are these "space mirrors"? There are no "space mirrors."
I have made a few observations to explain.
Space is black. Mirrors reflect things. The Space Mirrors reflect space. The Space Mirrors are therefore black. So they cannot be distinguished from the rest of the sky. Humans cannot SEE them. Therefore, they MUST exist.
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Only the suns, the moon and the Earth.
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The space mirrors were obviously created by Magneto, hence his inclusion in the diagram. How were they created? Easily explained.
After seeing the hit-television series 'Heroes', Magneto found the man who kills people and takes their powers and killed Sue Storm (the Invisible Woman). Since she can bend light to make herself invisible and create forcefields, Magneto stole her powers and created 2 space mirrors so the moon would be able to bounce the light from the sun off onto Earth.
I dare you to debate this.
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But Magneto, that's right isn't it Frenchy? We don't want to make any mistakes with this thing.
Magneto bends the light from the sun into the moon and tricks us into believing that the Earth is round by providing us with two magnetic poles.
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But Magneto, that's right isn't it Frenchy? We don't want to make any mistakes with this thing.
Magneto bends the light from the sun into the moon and tricks us into believing that the Earth is round by providing with two magnetic poles.
Using Sue Storm's powers.
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So can we measure their distances using Cyclops' laser eyes?
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So can we measure their distances using Cyclops' laser eyes?
1.) Cyclops doesn't have laser eyes.
2.) Cyclops' eyes emit a special heat-less energy that acts as a concussive force, similar to being punched. This was established after his initial conception in the 1960s, by Stan Lee whose power physics were very loose, so in the earlier comics his beams would melt things, but they no longer do so.
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Could this be what powers the Earth's acceleration?
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It very well could be.
However, I am a RE'er and do not believe in such things.
But, if I were to guess...I would assume a legion of Gnomes are causing the acceleration by pushing up on the bottom of Earth with their jet-packs.
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It very well could be.
However, I am a RE'er and do not believe in such things.
But, if I were to guess...I would assume a legion of Gnomes are causing the acceleration by pushing up on the bottom of Earth with their jet-packs.
They use chunks of the ice-wall for fuel. Cold fusion.
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But how? I thought the U.S. Military would shoot anyone who got close to it? OH. The land of the Gnomes must be on the OTHER side of the wall, so they get chunks from the opposite side. So I support your theory of Cold Fusion.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
You mean the sunS.
The suns are made of hydrogen and helium.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
You mean the sunS.
The suns are made of hydrogen and helium.
...I'm sorry what? Last tim i looked at the sky there's only one sun. What's forces the sun and moon to circle the planet...er I don't know how to phrase that.
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...I'm sorry what? Last tim i looked at the sky there's only one sun. What's forces the sun and moon to circle the planet...er I don't know how to phrase that.
Have you considered that the sun and moon may be stationary and the earth rotates beneath them?
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...I'm sorry what? Last tim i looked at the sky there's only one sun. What's forces the sun and moon to circle the planet...er I don't know how to phrase that.
Have you considered that the sun and moon may be stationary and the earth rotates beneath them?
Ok, my question still stands. Just switch a few words. Why would the earth be rotating?
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Ok, my question still stands. Just switch a few words. Why would the earth be rotating?
For the same reason the model in the Round Earth hypothesis rotates: Once an object is put into motion it tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.
See: Newton's First Law (http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/CLASS/newtlaws/u2l1a.html)
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Ok, my question still stands. Just switch a few words. Why would the earth be rotating?
For the same reason the model in the Round Earth hypothesis rotates: Once an object is put into motion it tends to stay in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.
See: Newton's First Law (http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/CLASS/newtlaws/u2l1a.html)
Too true. Ok, would you happen to know why France said there's more than one sun?
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Name's FRANC, you ass.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
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...I'm sorry what? Last tim i looked at the sky there's only one sun. What's forces the sun and moon to circle the planet...er I don't know how to phrase that.
Have you considered that the sun and moon may be stationary and the earth rotates beneath them?
And an insanly thin atmosphere magicly pushes a sun around at 3000 miles above earth.
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Franc, please check the FAQ as you are diagreeing with the stated FE stance. The Earth isn't an infinite plane and the moon is a spotlight as the sun (according to the FE FAQ).
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Franc, please check the FAQ as you are diagreeing with the stated FE stance. The Earth isn't an infinite plane and the moon is a spotlight as the sun (according to the FE FAQ).
Franc isn't exactly your standard FE'er... he's more of the "all hail Blinko the wanderer for discovering that the world is infinite" type.
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So Franc is more of an IFE (Infinite Flat Earth) while most others are FFE (Finite Flat Earth)
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
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He probly read it on a forum somewhere. He's most likely one of those people who believe everything they read. Of course, these other lands are highly protected from the views of us, but he just happens to know ALL about them. I say he's a contradictory fool.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
QUOTE PYRAMID!
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If you climb the top of the quote pyramid, you can see all the trolls.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
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Impressive quote pyramid.
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If you climb the top of the quote pyramid, you can see all the trolls.
Heh. They seem like pretty reasonable inquisitive people to me.
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If you climb the top of the quote pyramid, you can see all the trolls.
In case you haven't noticed you're right at the top m'dear.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
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Katmarie why are you arguing with Frenchy about FE when he doesn't believe in FE theory? He makes up answers for everthing you throw at him thus making it a never ending debate.
Could this be the most pointless argument ever seen?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
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Katmarie why are you arguing with Frenchy about FE when he doesn't believe in FE theory? He makes up answers for everthing you throw at him thus making it a never ending debate.
Could this be the most pointless argument ever seen?
Oh, righteo. Well then I think I shall try to do my best to make him contradict himself. *shrug* I don't like to lose silly arguements. Also, I want to see how high we can build our pyramid. ::)
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I agree, don't stop now. For the sake of the pyramid!
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Don't listen to the trolls. They don't really believe in their RE nonsense so they project their lies on FEers.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
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Don't listen to the trolls. They don't really believe in their RE nonsense so they project their lies on FEers.
:o....I'm sorry, I fail to see the logic in that.
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I agree, don't stop now. For the sake of the pyramid!
At this rate, by tomorrow it'll be higher than the great pyramids.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
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Alright I hate to break into this awesome (not) debate, but Franc I can't you continue to make a fool of yourself.... Even if I get a laugh out of it. Lemme start by giving you a tip before tearing apart your points and I'll go slow so you understand.
Flat.... Earthers.....Use.....The.......Same......Story.....Unless.......Their.......Tom.........Bishop.
You.....Are......Not........Tom........Bishop.
Now then, with that out of the way. I'd like to bring up your earlier statement that the sun is farther away then the moon. See the FE FAQ claims their the same distance away, here lemme get a quote.
"Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"
A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall.Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions."
Hmmm seems like your fellow FE'ers seem to have figured this out and either not informed you or you've just ignored it like they ignore our intelligent questions. But lets just say for a minute your right. It WOULD require something close to the picture posted earlier AND magentos (who was in the picture) help which I notice you've failed to say he's not involved at all...
And not only are there 7 suns but there made of feta? Come on man, my cat can think of better stuff and hes an animal. The suns are made of hydrogen and perform a thing called Fusion with it which creates helium. Look it up. And also look up how we're trying to attempt fusion. Still don't believe it? Well, hey heres a thought. Go try it and let us know how it goes, we'll be waiting.
Now anyways 7 suns, you relize how hot that would make our planet right? And god knows what they'd do to the ice wall... Not to mention that unless you have 6 of those "dark spots" or what ever was the rage back in febuary to explain the moons cycles, that it's impossible to hide them. Now if you meant 6 stars and the sun I'd be quick to point out theres far more then 6 stars in the sky AND I can see them from where I am.
By the way, before you try to point out the sun isnt a star I'm going to bring up how super novas and created from stars which perform Fusion, which is what our sun does and they both make like and heat!
Oh and your new thing about emigration... you do know theres nothing behind the Ice wall except space right? Least according to other Fe'ers.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
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Alright I hate to break into this awesome (not) debate, but Franc I can't you continue to make a fool of yourself.... Even if I get a laugh out of it. Lemme start by giving you a tip before tearing apart your points and I'll go slow so you understand.
Flat.... Earthers.....Use.....The.......Same......Story.....Unless.......Their.......Tom.........Bishop.
You.....Are......Not........Tom........Bishop.
Now then, with that out of the way. I'd like to bring up your earlier statement that the sun is farther away then the moon. See the FE FAQ claims their the same distance away, here lemme get a quote.
"Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"
A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator, located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall.Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light," the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions."
Hmmm seems like your fellow FE'ers seem to have figured this out and either not informed you or you've just ignored it like they ignore our intelligent questions. But lets just say for a minute your right. It WOULD require something close to the picture posted earlier AND magentos (who was in the picture) help which I notice you've failed to say he's not involved at all...
And not only are there 7 suns but there made of feta? Come on man, my cat can think of better stuff and hes an animal. The suns are made of hydrogen and perform a thing called Fusion with it which creates helium. Look it up. And also look up how we're trying to attempt fusion. Still don't believe it? Well, hey heres a thought. Go try it and let us know how it goes, we'll be waiting.
Now anyways 7 suns, you relize how hot that would make our planet right? And god knows what they'd do to the ice wall... Not to mention that unless you have 6 of those "dark spots" or what ever was the rage back in febuary to explain the moons cycles, that it's impossible to hide them. Now if you meant 6 stars and the sun I'd be quick to point out theres far more then 6 stars in the sky AND I can see them from where I am.
By the way, before you try to point out the sun isnt a star I'm going to bring up how super novas and created from stars which perform Fusion, which is what our sun does and they both make like and heat!
Oh and your new thing about emigration... you do know theres nothing behind the Ice wall except space right? Least according to other Fe'ers.
Franc, isn't your typical fe'er... And according to him they're small suns... How he knows they exist is beyond me.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
1) *cough* bullshit. And the Himalayas exist because of the tectonic plates folding/ whatever is happening with those plates. Ice on the other hand has nothing to do with plates.
2) They could do that other ways. And what could they do with those millions that supposedly goes to space explorataion that wouldn't look suspicious?
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Franc, isn't your typical fe'er... And according to him they're small suns... How he knows they exist is beyond me.
This true.... With his current statements I'm tempted to dub him Tom Bishop Jr.
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Since Mr. Bishop is the most admirable FEer on this board, I would be honoured to be called his kin.
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Since Mr. Bishop is the most admirable FEer on this board, I would be honoured to be called his kin.
There there... We'll get social services on the phone to take you away from that family. In the mean time please don't ignore my post. I know you have a level 0 evasion skill.
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I do believe I've won. Unless Franc is taking unsually long to reply to my post.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
1) *cough* bullshit. And the Himalayas exist because of the tectonic plates folding/ whatever is happening with those plates. Ice on the other hand has nothing to do with plates.
2) They could do that other ways. And what could they do with those millions that supposedly goes to space explorataion that wouldn't look suspicious?
1. Don't you cough no bullshit at me. Why does Antarctica exist, according to RE theory?
2. They do send things in orbit, but with the goal of deploying space weapons to use against foreign lands and their own citizens.
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1. Don't you cough no bullshit at me. Why does Antarctica exist, according to RE theory?
2. They do send things in orbit, but with the goal of deploying space weapons to use against foreign lands and their own citizens.
Ok kid. Time to shut you down for good. AND I'll use a FE'er thread to do it.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=5829.0 (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=5829.0)
Yep. Thats right, his last picture proves theres nothing behind the ice wall. While you're at it read his WHOLE post.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
1) *cough* bullshit. And the Himalayas exist because of the tectonic plates folding/ whatever is happening with those plates. Ice on the other hand has nothing to do with plates.
2) They could do that other ways. And what could they do with those millions that supposedly goes to space explorataion that wouldn't look suspicious?
1. Don't you cough no bullshit at me. Why does Antarctica exist, according to RE theory?
2. They do send things in orbit, but with the goal of deploying space weapons to use against foreign lands and their own citizens.
1) Tis a dreadful habit that I cannot resist, at least in your case...And as to Antartica it exists because it's at a higher elevation than the earth around it. I don't know the exact events that led to its creation. I know how Canada was formed....but that's beside the point.
2) Orbit??
or·bit
–noun
1. the curved path, usually elliptical, described by a planet, satellite, spaceship, etc., around a celestial body, as the sun.
How can you circle something that according to you is flat and it has no end??
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
1) *cough* bullshit. And the Himalayas exist because of the tectonic plates folding/ whatever is happening with those plates. Ice on the other hand has nothing to do with plates.
2) They could do that other ways. And what could they do with those millions that supposedly goes to space explorataion that wouldn't look suspicious?
1. Don't you cough no bullshit at me. Why does Antarctica exist, according to RE theory?
2. They do send things in orbit, but with the goal of deploying space weapons to use against foreign lands and their own citizens.
1) Tis a dreadful habit that I cannot resist, at least in your case...And as to Antartica it exists because it's at a higher elevation than the earth around it. I don't know the exact events that led to its creation. I know how Canada was formed....but that's beside the point.
2) Orbit??
or·bit
–noun
1. the curved path, usually elliptical, described by a planet, satellite, spaceship, etc., around a celestial body, as the sun.
How can you circle something that according to you is flat and it has no end??
1. So neither of us has the answer. We're even.
2. By circling above.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
1) *cough* bullshit. And the Himalayas exist because of the tectonic plates folding/ whatever is happening with those plates. Ice on the other hand has nothing to do with plates.
2) They could do that other ways. And what could they do with those millions that supposedly goes to space explorataion that wouldn't look suspicious?
1. Don't you cough no bullshit at me. Why does Antarctica exist, according to RE theory?
2. They do send things in orbit, but with the goal of deploying space weapons to use against foreign lands and their own citizens.
1) Tis a dreadful habit that I cannot resist, at least in your case...And as to Antartica it exists because it's at a higher elevation than the earth around it. I don't know the exact events that led to its creation. I know how Canada was formed....but that's beside the point.
2) Orbit??
or·bit
–noun
1. the curved path, usually elliptical, described by a planet, satellite, spaceship, etc., around a celestial body, as the sun.
How can you circle something that according to you is flat and it has no end??
1. So neither of us has the answer. We're even.
2. By circling above.
1) I learned it last year. I'd rather not look through all my notes. If memory serves, Antartica Broke off of Pangea and Pangea was made by the folding and sudduction of different plates.
2) Didn't you say the conspiracy kept peace, why would people need space weapons?
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
1) *cough* bullshit. And the Himalayas exist because of the tectonic plates folding/ whatever is happening with those plates. Ice on the other hand has nothing to do with plates.
2) They could do that other ways. And what could they do with those millions that supposedly goes to space explorataion that wouldn't look suspicious?
1. Don't you cough no bullshit at me. Why does Antarctica exist, according to RE theory?
2. They do send things in orbit, but with the goal of deploying space weapons to use against foreign lands and their own citizens.
1) Tis a dreadful habit that I cannot resist, at least in your case...And as to Antartica it exists because it's at a higher elevation than the earth around it. I don't know the exact events that led to its creation. I know how Canada was formed....but that's beside the point.
2) Orbit??
or·bit
–noun
1. the curved path, usually elliptical, described by a planet, satellite, spaceship, etc., around a celestial body, as the sun.
How can you circle something that according to you is flat and it has no end??
1. So neither of us has the answer. We're even.
2. By circling above.
1) I learned it last year. I'd rather not look through all my notes. If memory serves, Antartica Broke off of Pangea and Pangea was made by the folding and sudduction of different plates.
2) Didn't you say the conspiracy kept peace, why would people need space weapons?
When have you ever known any government which was dedicated to peace? By its very nature, government is predatory and needs war in order to keep expanding. The bigger the war, the better.
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so it reflects sunlight?
Yes.
What's the sun made of?
This was discussed in another thread. The most likely substance is feta.
The sunS are made of hydrogen and helium.
What other suns? And in regard to your other post, there is such thing as typos m'dear.
There are seven small suns above our local area, not one big Sun.
Then why do I see only one?
Because there is only one sun visible from any given point on the surface of our local area. Other areas can have more than one visible, or none. It's very variable and depends on the local geometry.
Where can you see two suns? One would think that news would get around.
Only in other lands, not in this local area. Nowhere in the seven continents can you see two suns.
Then how do you know there are multiple suns?
Because frmo a high altitude you can see all those suns.
Whoah whoah whoah. High altitute where? In our "local area"? Where we are the only ones who can't see more than one sun?
We do see more than one sun- just one at a time. But if you go high enough, you can see the Earth Pockets and you may see other suns.
And you've seen this have you?/People have seen this?
Technically, only people who have gone in orbit. But many people have observed the Earth Pockets and seen suns rise from them, yes. Those who were too close to the edge of an Earth Pocket have the first degree burns to prove it.
So, astronaughts and scientists. Aren't they in on the conspiracy?
Some of them are, yes. Most are just too deluded or brainwashed to claim anything BUT the orthodoxy.
Just to give an example of this, theologian William Lane Craig (one of the most well-known of our time) has publically stated that even if he came back in time and saw that Jesus never came out of the tomb, he would still believe in the divinity of Jesus.
True Believers are so brainwashed that no amount of empirical evidence can change their minds.
That's not exactly a good example. For Craig it was a matter of spiritual life or death, and he didn't want to take the chance. Whereas astronaughts and scientists really have nothing to gain or lose from lying.
Their faith, their jobs, their reputations, their lives. Just like Craig.
Ok since they keep their mouths shut about all this, how can you prove anything?
I get my information from exterior sources.
How do you know they aren't fakes? There's a lot of people out there making up stuff that sounds believable. (not like this is)
I suppose it's possible for ALL of them to be feeding us false information. But why would they do it? Unlike people who live here, they have no incentive to lie.
You could say the same thing about the government. Why should every government try to cover up the fact that the world is flat? What would they have to gain? It would be a huge drain on resources, so why bother in the first place? Also, where would they even get the notion that the world is round? If the Earth was truly flat we wouldn't even have the concept of a round world, it wouldn't make sense.
I already explained that on other threads. The governments of the world have two incentives in maintaining the lie:
1. To maintain peace between itself and neighbouring lands. Prevent invasion.
2. To gain billions of dollars from trading technologies with other lands, in secret.
I haven't been here that long, and since I have a life I don't visit all the threads.
1) How would lying about the shape of the Earth keep peace?
2) I don't think trade would make up for the obscene amount of money spent on fake information each government would have to make up.
1. Because it prevents people from emigrating, and thus causing interplanar disputes.
2. It does, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. But they also get the added benefit of not being crushed to cinders. The first people who would be killed in a takeover of this local area would be the governments of the world.
1) Nothing can stop people from emigrating. It happens, it's a fact of life.
2) They obviously aren't because if every country was getting a lot of money to cover expenses then why are most countries poor? And where the hell does all the money come from anyways? And those last two sentences made no sense whatsoever.
1. Not if they don't believe there is any place to GO TO.
2. I don't think "every country" is financed by the FE conspiracy. For one thing, right now the RE belief system is already firmly implanted in many parts of the local area. And who cares if some dopes in Africa don't believe the Earth is round? It's not like they have the money to go to the Ice Wall.
1) You mean emigrate to the otehr side of the ice wall?
2)There are rich people in Africa, believe it or not.
1. Correct.
2. I am being glib, but I think you get my meaning. Once strong belief in the Round Earthist religion is established, it takes much less resources to maintain it.
1) How do you/anyone know if there's anything beyond the ice wall? And if there is, why is there an ice wall in the first place?
2) What's "glib"? And that's a load of shit. There's a lot of research being done all the time, if it was all fake why wouldn't the government just stop space exploration etc? Lots of people want it to stop anyways because it's a drain on resources.
1. Because of testimonies from explorers from foreign lands. Why is there an Ice Wall? Beats me. Why does the Himalayas exist?
2. Why does the government do anything that is a waste of money? Because they get to control people's resources and freedoms. NASA is just one of a long list of reasons to keep taxes high and keep control over the stratosphere.
1) *cough* bullshit. And the Himalayas exist because of the tectonic plates folding/ whatever is happening with those plates. Ice on the other hand has nothing to do with plates.
2) They could do that other ways. And what could they do with those millions that supposedly goes to space explorataion that wouldn't look suspicious?
1. Don't you cough no bullshit at me. Why does Antarctica exist, according to RE theory?
2. They do send things in orbit, but with the goal of deploying space weapons to use against foreign lands and their own citizens.
1) Tis a dreadful habit that I cannot resist, at least in your case...And as to Antartica it exists because it's at a higher elevation than the earth around it. I don't know the exact events that led to its creation. I know how Canada was formed....but that's beside the point.
2) Orbit??
or·bit
–noun
1. the curved path, usually elliptical, described by a planet, satellite, spaceship, etc., around a celestial body, as the sun.
How can you circle something that according to you is flat and it has no end??
1. So neither of us has the answer. We're even.
2. By circling above.
1) I learned it last year. I'd rather not look through all my notes. If memory serves, Antartica Broke off of Pangea and Pangea was made by the folding and sudduction of different plates.
2) Didn't you say the conspiracy kept peace, why would people need space weapons?
When have you ever known any government which was dedicated to peace? By its very nature, government is predatory and needs war in order to keep expanding. The bigger the war, the better.
The government is just there to take care of its citizens. And, wasn't the trade of "special technologies" or whatever it was you said supposed to keep countries from having wars...Which doesn't seem to work too well.
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The government is just there to take care of its citizens.
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Ok, the government is "supposed" to take care of its citizens. That's what their main purpose is. Whether they do as they should is a different matter.
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Right, well I have to go. I'll get back to you later.
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Ok, the government is "supposed" to take care of its citizens.
Yeaaa right. According to who? The government?
I'm supposed to take care of you, so I'm going to monopolize all the markets, take away all the infrastructure, and give them back to you if you agree to my rules. Now give me half your income or I'll kidnap you.
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Ok, the government is "supposed" to take care of its citizens.
Yeaaa right. According to who? The government?
I'm supposed to take care of you, so I'm going to monopolize all the markets, take away all the infrastructure, and give them back to you if you agree to my rules. Now give me half your income or I'll kidnap you.
According to our democratic rule.
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Ok, the government is "supposed" to take care of its citizens.
Yeaaa right. According to who? The government?
I'm supposed to take care of you, so I'm going to monopolize all the markets, take away all the infrastructure, and give them back to you if you agree to my rules. Now give me half your income or I'll kidnap you.
Someone's a tad moody today. And the government (any) was set up to take care of its people. They take money from them and give it back in the form of healthcare, education etc. But then absolute power corrupts absolutely. So, they don't do that all the time.
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Very true, and there will always be gov'ts that abuse their power - Robert Mugabe for example.
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...I'm sorry what? Last tim i looked at the sky there's only one sun. What's forces the sun and moon to circle the planet...er I don't know how to phrase that.
Have you considered that the sun and moon may be stationary and the earth rotates beneath them?
And an insanly thin atmosphere magicly pushes a sun around at 3000 miles above earth.
My earlier calculations shown a 4000 mile distance.
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Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
Frederic Bastiat
The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern; every class is unfit to govern.
Lord John Dalberg-Acton
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wasn't he in the House of Commons?
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Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
Frederic Bastiat
The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern; every class is unfit to govern.
Lord John Dalberg-Acton
I'm saying that in a perfect world the government would take care of its citizens. But since we don't live in a perfect world the government doesn't always do that.
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Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
Frederic Bastiat
The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern; every class is unfit to govern.
Lord John Dalberg-Acton
I'm saying that in a perfect world the government would take care of its citizens. But since we don't live in a perfect world the government doesn't always do that.
That's like saying that flesh-eating bacteria should make people smarter in a perfect world, but since this is not a perfect word it eats flesh sometimes too.
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Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
Frederic Bastiat
The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern; every class is unfit to govern.
Lord John Dalberg-Acton
I'm saying that in a perfect world the government would take care of its citizens. But since we don't live in a perfect world the government doesn't always do that.
That's like saying that flesh-eating bacteria should make people smarter in a perfect world, but since this is not a perfect word it eats flesh sometimes too.
I fail to see the correlation. Whatever floats your boat, but keep it reletive to the topic at hand.
The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
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I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
So then I take it you speak animal? I mean thats the only way to know that they dont have a government... So when did you learn to speak it? Can you teach me? Why wasn't this in the papers?
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Get outta this board, sociopath.
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Get outta this board, sociopath.
In your imortal words... "reported"
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Try it for yourself and test the cold light and warm light (TEST) Stand naked in the Sunlight eg "warm light" and you can feel the light is warm before you get arrested that is. Then when released stand Naked in the Moonlight a full moon is best and you will feel very cold eg "Cold Light" Then you get arrested again and a chance to warm up in a nice warm cell. Tell the judge you are a flat earther conducting an experiment er Test on Cold and Warm light. Let us know how you get on Regards a flat earther
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that won't work.
a)he won't do it, he's a coward
b)He'll just say "see? The Government censors people's views!! >:( >:("
c)He'll consider you a troll.
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Try it for yourself and test the cold light and warm light (TEST) Stand naked in the Sunlight eg "warm light" and you can feel the light is warm before you get arrested that is. Then when released stand Naked in the Moonlight a full moon is best and you will feel very cold eg "Cold Light" Then you get arrested again and a chance to warm up in a nice warm cell. Tell the judge you are a flat earther conducting an experiment er Test on Cold and Warm light. Let us know how you get on Regards a flat earther
Cold light? What the hell are you talking about, troll?
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And the answer was C! He'll consider you a troll.
The prize? Well, it's a very special prize....find out what it is, after the break!
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
Any system can have a leader, that does not make it a government.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
Any system can have a leader, that does not make it a government.
A dictatorship is still a type of government is it not?
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most effective kind as well
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
Any system can have a leader, that does not make it a government.
A dictatorship is still a type of government is it not?
A dictatorship has to be a government. Therefore a non-governmental structure cannot be a dictatorship.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
Any system can have a leader, that does not make it a government.
A dictatorship is still a type of government is it not?
A dictatorship has to be a government. Therefore a non-governmental structure cannot be a dictatorship.
...Thus animals have governments, however different from our own.
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It would be a bit easier if you just looked up government in the dictionary then you both woulnd't have to argue over it's definition.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
Any system can have a leader, that does not make it a government.
A dictatorship is still a type of government is it not?
A dictatorship has to be a government. Therefore a non-governmental structure cannot be a dictatorship.
...Thus animals have governments, however different from our own.
No they don't you illogical baboon.
NO GOVERNMENT, NO DICTATORSHIP!
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It would be a bit easier if you just looked up government in the dictionary then you both woulnd't have to argue over it's definition.
I would, but then he'd probably say they're apart of the conspiracy or something. Or that they're brainwashed.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
Any system can have a leader, that does not make it a government.
A dictatorship is still a type of government is it not?
A dictatorship has to be a government. Therefore a non-governmental structure cannot be a dictatorship.
...Thus animals have governments, however different from our own.
No they don't you illogical baboon.
NO GOVERNMENT, NO DICTATORSHIP!
:o Well that is indeed a first. I've never been referred to as a baboon. Thank you, that's put a smile on my face.
Anywho, they have a leader. The group does what he/she says. Sounds like a dictator to me.
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I once played an awesome computer game called Star Control 2. In the game, there was a race of aliens called the Spathi; they were basically space cowards. In fact, their entire society was devoted to repelling the "ULTIMATE EVIL!!!!!!" (their words). They never truly had contact with them, but their theory was that because they could not detect them, that meant they lie just outside the range of their most sensitive detectors, which was then proof of the "ULTIMATE EVIL!!!!!!"'s nefarious intent. I feel like Francis's argument is basically that, an argument that is a fallacy by every definition.
First off, all tenets of the Flat Earth Society are conjectures, suggestions and best-fits. By definition of the word proof, there is none. If you did have proof of a worldwide conspiracy, you'd probably be dead. Contrariwise, if any of the things you describe are actual circumstances in this world, you would also be dead.
If this conspiracy is as far-reaching and all-encompassing as you describe, that means the people in charge are going to great lengths to preserve the round earth dogma. Because of that, don't you think they'd be quick to snatch up heretics like you and put them to death or something? Especially because you espouse your views on a readily-accessible public forum of an unrestricted website?
Or maybe the earth IS actually flat, but because the Flat Earthers seem incapable of understanding the term "proof", the governments figure that a bunch of dopes like Francois will make no difference, because they don't have the capacity to create convincing arguments or conjectures.
I eagerly await your response, Francerty.
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"The original point of a government was to make decisions in the best interest of its people; to govern them. Hence the "govern" part of government."
Wow, you are thoroughly brainwashed.
How anyone can objectively look at the premises, functions and structure of government, and still say that it's in "the best interests" of its subjects, is beyond me.
And you are thoroughly paranoid/skeptical
You notice I did say "original"
It's not only humans that have leaders. Animal groups usually have leaders of some sort, it's natural. That animal takes care of its followers. We have that in a larger version
I am not paranoid or skeptical. Just a realist who looks at the morality of people's actions, as well as the history of government. I don't just put my fingers in my ears and chant.
Murder is murder. Theft is theft. Extortion is extortion. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it to yourself.
I have never seen any government in other species. If you do, please submit a scientific paper on it and it will be revolutionary.
Most groups of animals have some sort of chain of command. Maybe not that per se, but they usually have a leader.
Any system can have a leader, that does not make it a government.
A dictatorship is still a type of government is it not?
A dictatorship has to be a government. Therefore a non-governmental structure cannot be a dictatorship.
...Thus animals have governments, however different from our own.
No they don't you illogical baboon.
NO GOVERNMENT, NO DICTATORSHIP!
:o Well that is indeed a first. I've never been referred to as a baboon. Thank you, that's put a smile on my face.
Anywho, they have a leader. The group does what he/she says. Sounds like a dictator to me.
I tell a friend what to do and he does it. Does that make me a government? Baboon.
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Stop dodging the point, Francerty.
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Stop dodging the point, Francerty.
He's done that to me everytime I shoot him down. Don't feel bad though after a while you relize as you make the post its just one of those dodge questions and start not caring.
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Do not be so arrogant as to believe that you can "shoot me down."
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Do not be so arrogant as to believe that you can "shoot me down."
Then anwser my original post here AND ramens instead of trying to change the subject.
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He won't, mostly because he can't. Honestly, I don't care what any FE'er says, there is FAR more readily-available proof describing a round earth than a flat one. It's just very convenient to FE'ers that all that proof is rendered moot by that pesky world conspiracy. And that's why they will never accept your point, because they are the worst cases of paranioa I have ever experienced. It's kinda sad, really.
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Sad but funny as hell
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A bit like you Gaybod
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Fuck off sociopath!
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Don't make me get the pot kettle black pic out again!
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No!
Troll
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You want some Troll lovin'