The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: E Nomini Patri on February 09, 2007, 08:12:01 AM
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To start things off here's a panoramic view from the top of Everest just because I think it kicks ass:
http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen2/full22.html
Moving on, here is a orbital picture of Chile in South America:
(http://www.solarviews.com/huge/earth/chile.jpg)
Here is a view of Somalia:
(http://www.solarviews.com/raw/earth/africa.jpg)
A beautiful view of the southern tip of Greenland:
(http://www.solarviews.com/raw/earth/greenlnd.jpg)
An incredible picture of the Great Barrier Reef off the coast of Australia:
(http://www.solarviews.com/huge/earth/barrier.jpg)
Last but not least, a nearly complete view of Antarctica:
(http://www.solarviews.com/browse/earth/antar2.jpg)
6MB, 2450 x 2200 resolution tif available: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA00117.tif
The obvious question is how does a flat earth theory account for visual confirmation of the Earth being round?
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
Could you explain why they're obviously fake?
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Those look incredibly non-fake to me. Yes, I agree about the resizing though.
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
you make me so mad, you're obviously like three fucking years old.
If we showed you a real looking picture proving that the earth was flat, then you'd believe it, but not ones proving that the earth is round. Ohhhh noooo. Why? cause you're a narrow minded shit.
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
you make me so mad, you're obviously like three fucking years old.
If we showed you a real looking picture proving that the earth was flat, then you'd believe it, but not ones proving that the earth is round. Ohhhh noooo. Why? cause you're a narrow minded shit.
You're quite stuck up for someone who believes the Earth is flat. If you went into space for yourself and saw a spherical Earth, you would deny it. Because you love your conspiracy theories.
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
you make me so mad, you're obviously like three fucking years old.
If we showed you a real looking picture proving that the earth was flat, then you'd believe it, but not ones proving that the earth is round. Ohhhh noooo. Why? cause you're a narrow minded shit.
You're quite stuck up for someone who believes the Earth is flat. If you went into space for yourself and saw a spherical Earth, you would deny it. Because you love your conspiracy theories.
Disclaimer:
I do not believe that the earth is flat.
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
you make me so mad, you're obviously like three fucking years old.
If we showed you a real looking picture proving that the earth was flat, then you'd believe it, but not ones proving that the earth is round. Ohhhh noooo. Why? cause you're a narrow minded shit.
You're quite stuck up for someone who believes the Earth is flat. If you went into space for yourself and saw a spherical Earth, you would deny it. Because you love your conspiracy theories.
Disclaimer:
I do not believe that the earth is flat.
Oh right, sorry about that then. Yeah I know that this forum is not sposed to take pictures as proof, so he prob shouldn't have put them up. But still, I thought your response went a bit over the top. I believe the pictures are real, and I'm not a narrow minded shit and I'm not three years old.
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He was obviously responding to GeoGuy, as that is who he quoted.
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
you make me so mad, you're obviously like three fucking years old.
If we showed you a real looking picture proving that the earth was flat, then you'd believe it, but not ones proving that the earth is round. Ohhhh noooo. Why? cause you're a narrow minded shit.
You're quite stuck up for someone who believes the Earth is flat. If you went into space for yourself and saw a spherical Earth, you would deny it. Because you love your conspiracy theories.
Disclaimer:
I do not believe that the earth is flat.
I was saying that most FEers are narrow-minded, since they will not accept the fact that most photos from space of Earth are real. But, they would probably believe a picture of a realistic Flat Earth from space.
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I'd like to know what about them you can describe as fake. If you are simply saying that they are fake because they do not fit into your system of beliefs, I'm going to have to write you off as a fanatic and therefore not somebody that can be spoken to in a logical and reliable sense.
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It's just the fact that photos are so easily manipulated.
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
you make me so mad, you're obviously like three fucking years old.
If we showed you a real looking picture proving that the earth was flat, then you'd believe it, but not ones proving that the earth is round. Ohhhh noooo. Why? cause you're a narrow minded shit.
You're quite stuck up for someone who believes the Earth is flat. If you went into space for yourself and saw a spherical Earth, you would deny it. Because you love your conspiracy theories.
I love having the "Friendly Fire" setting to "on". It's really funny.
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It's just the fact that photos are so easily manipulated.
That is why I left them the same size as a range rover, to guarantee the fools here would see em.
Now why do you guys think picture proof isn't allowed hmm? ;)
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Because of this: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308
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Because of this: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308
Pretty sure only the penguin population would benefit from a reality with a flat Earth. Lucky Leopard Seals...
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So did this thread help clear anything up or are there still people here who are undecided as to whether the Earth is spherical or flat?
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Yes, it's settled: Earth is flat.
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Yes, it's settled: Earth is flat.
It's settled: You didn't look at the pictures.
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As has been said more times here than I care to count, pictures are inadmissible as evidence for either side as they are too easily faked.
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Those pics look real enough to me.
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As has been said more times here than I care to count, pictures are inadmissible as evidence for either side as they are too easily faked.
But... I can say that about any of the flat earth pictures you post (which I hardly see)
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So every picture and video showing a round earth, EVER, is fake?
That's alot of people making fake pictures and videos. Quite ironic out of the thousands, you've not a shread of evidence of someone faking it?
You really think people are that clean in deceit? It's not possible.
You should have COUNTLESS examples of people faking pictures and videos to make the earth appear round, to just make a small FRACTION of the amount that would "get away with it."
Yet you have NOTHING. Where are your discoveries of finding photoshop history files on PC's, or put film negatives under the microscope?
With so many things you are claiming are fake, you have not a single thing to back it up, something which should be so easy to do based on the long history and great scope of your claim.
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Yet you have NOTHING. Where are your discoveries of finding photoshop history files on PC's, or put film negatives under the microscope?
Open the first picture in the original post of this thread with Notepad and you will find the following in the header information:
ÿØÿà JFIF H H ÿá.Exif MM * b j( 1 r2 †‡i œ È H H Adobe Photoshop 7.0 2004:02:25 22:36:24 ÿÿ Ø × ( &
This means the image was created with Adobe Photoshop. A very expensive special effects image editor. Same goes for the rest of the round earth pictures.
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Yet you have NOTHING. Where are your discoveries of finding photoshop history files on PC's, or put film negatives under the microscope?
Open the first picture in the original post of this thread with Notepad and you will find the following in the header information:
ÿØÿà JFIF H H ÿá.Exif MM * b j( 1 r2 †‡i œ È H H Adobe Photoshop 7.0 2004:02:25 22:36:24 ÿÿ Ø × ( &
This means the image was created with Adobe Photoshop. A very expensive special effects image editor. Same goes for the rest of the round earth pictures.
BZZZZZT! Wrong.
That doesn't prove it was CREATED in Photoshop, douchenozzle. :roll:
That just means it was opened/saved with Photoshop. Most likely was used to either resize it or change it to a web-friendly format (i.e. JPEG instead of TIFF). As far as I know there's no way to know whether a photo was created or just opened and saved with Photoshop.
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That doesn't prove it was CREATED in Photoshop
Poster "Meatballsoup" wanted proof of Photoshop tomfoolery. Well there it is, right there embedded in the image!
Oh, and an expensive image editing software package like Photoshop isn't necessary for resizing images. You could do that with any free image editor. Even MSPaint can resize images and save in JPEG format.
In fact, it looks like the pictures in the OP weren't resized at all. Did the NASA photo team run the image through Photoshop just for kicks?
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Because the gov't brainwashed them after fixing their eyes so that everytime they see the earth, it appears round
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That doesn't prove it was CREATED in Photoshop
Poster "Meatballsoup" wanted proof of Photoshop tomfoolery. Well there it is, right there embedded in the image!
Oh, and an expensive image editing software package like Photoshop isn't necessary for resizing images. You could do that with any free image editor. Even MSPaint can resize images and save in JPEG format.
In fact, it looks like the pictures in the OP weren't resized at all. Did the NASA photo team run the image through Photoshop just for kicks?
Hey Tom, sorry to bust your bubble, but not everyone has to do things the same. Just because it has Photoshop in the header doesn't make it fake. I use Photoshop to manipulate the sizes of my images as well, even though MSPaint is handily available when in Windows XP. But I prefer Photoshop, so that's what I use. Does that make all of my images inherintly fake? No.
Basing a images validity based on the program used to resize an image, manipulate it in some form (that wouldn't cause it to be fake) doesn't constitute anything.
Tom, I'm on your side, but you are once again making a fool of yourself with your basic logic. Sorry.
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That doesn't prove it was CREATED in Photoshop
Poster "Meatballsoup" wanted proof of Photoshop tomfoolery. Well there it is, right there embedded in the image!
Oh, and an expensive image editing software package like Photoshop isn't necessary for resizing images. You could do that with any free image editor. Even MSPaint can resize images and save in JPEG format.
In fact, it looks like the pictures in the OP weren't resized at all. Did the NASA photo team run the image through Photoshop just for kicks?
Hey Tom, sorry to bust your bubble, but not everyone has to do things the same. Just because it has Photoshop in the header doesn't make it fake. I use Photoshop to manipulate the sizes of my images as well, even though MSPaint is handily available when in Windows XP. But I prefer Photoshop, so that's what I use. Does that make all of my images inherintly fake? No.
Basing a images validity based on the program used to resize an image, manipulate it in some form (that wouldn't cause it to be fake) doesn't constitute anything.
Tom, I'm on your side, but you are once again making a fool of yourself with your basic logic. Sorry.
right, but you know the story.. the ones that dont have photoshop in them were obviously covered up by the gov't
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I will forever be empirical. If you want to convince ANYONE, you're going to have to show proof.
Not proof that the earth is flat, but proof that it's a conspiracy. After all, that would be WAY harder to do. Who needs to go to an Ice Wall? If you truly belied there to be a Global (lol, global.) Conspiracy, then by golly you'd better go out there and catch someone red handed. With all the faking going on, luckily you'll have a very easy time, won't you?
If you don't, you either don't care or don't really believe it. It's obvious no one here really believes anything you claim, you're just here to play devil's advocate with everyone, get a good laugh from the people who stumble in and argue with you, and hey, in the mean time, you get a nice well-populated forum, with plenty of people who hate you for something you don't really believe anyway.
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Tom Bishop set of my fucking dumbass alarm! Well, actually he sets it off all the time, but this one is special.
Photoshop, whether it be 7 as "shown" or CS2 (9) which I have, it is impossible to render such images. Perhaps stop saying such bullshit. This time you spoke 100% out your ass.
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I'm no expert at this, but wouldn't you need a 3d rendering program plus a vector drawing program to create an image like this? And I have no idea how long it would take to produce one with such detail and quailty.
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I'm no expert at this, but wouldn't you need a 3d rendering program plus a vector drawing program to create an image like this? And I have no idea how long it would take to produce one with such detail and quailty.
What would be the point outside of the film industry when we already have satellites that take these pictures for us?
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Your pictures are both annoyingly large and obviously fake. I really wish you'd have taken the time to resize them.
you make me so mad, you're obviously like three fucking years old.
If we showed you a real looking picture proving that the earth was flat, then you'd believe it, but not ones proving that the earth is round. Ohhhh noooo. Why? cause you're a narrow minded shit.
You're quite stuck up for someone who believes the Earth is flat. If you went into space for yourself and saw a spherical Earth, you would deny it. Because you love your conspiracy theories.
Disclaimer:
I do not believe that the earth is flat.
I was saying that most FEers are narrow-minded, since they will not accept the fact that most photos from space of Earth are real. But, they would probably believe a picture of a realistic Flat Earth from space.
Soz mate. I misinterpretted that totally. I got mixed up with who you were mad at too, didn't even notice that you qoated someone above your comment, how embarrassing. I apologize.
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I'm no expert at this, but wouldn't you need a 3d rendering program plus a vector drawing program to create an image like this? And I have no idea how long it would take to produce one with such detail and quailty.
Yes, which Photoshop 7 is not. The most photoshop can do in that picture is brighten it to make things more visible, or convert it from whatever it originally was to jpeg.
Also, there is no 3d program that can create such an image. No FEer has ever taken both 2d graphic design and 3d graphic design like I have. Probably within the next 5 years a 3d program can come close, but no. Try again, failures.
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Tom Bishop set of my fraking dumbass alarm! Well, actually he sets it off all the time, but this one is special.
Photoshop, whether it be 7 as "shown" or CS2 (9) which I have, it is impossible to render such images. Perhaps stop saying such bullshit. This time you spoke 100% out your ass.
Mate, I'm not sure how much you think you know about multimedia these days. It's perfectly possible to create an image like that from scratch. It COULD even be done using just photoshop. But it would take a lot of man hours to get it right.
An easier way (as suggested in the post below yours) would be to use photoshop in conjunction with 3D rendering Software. Most likely just use photoshop to polish off the texturing and lighting.
If you really think that photo-realism is not possible in this day and age, you really are ignorant.
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Even if it is possible, how could they possibly even think about faking the thousands of photographs that come out of NASA?
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Even if it is possible, how could they possibly even think about faking the thousands of photographs that come out of NASA?
Well they'd need to if they wanted to convince everyone that the Earth was a Sphere....
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Even if it is possible, how could they possibly even think about faking the thousands of photographs that come out of NASA?
Well they'd need to if they wanted to convince everyone that the Earth was a Sphere....
saddams hanging was leaked no more than 1 hour after it happend,
people can hack celebrities cell phones for pictures...CELL PHONES,
movies get put on the internet weeks/months before they come out in theaters,
and your telling me that its possible to keep thousands upon thousands of government/NASA officials in such fear to not leak pictures of a flat earth?
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saddams hanging was leaked no more than 1 hour after it happend,
people can hack celebrities cell phones for pictures...CELL PHONES,
movies get put on the internet weeks/months before they come out in theaters,
and your telling me that its possible to keep thousands upon thousands of government/NASA officials in such fear to not leak pictures of a flat earth?
Hardly. The only people who would have to keep their mouths shut, would be the ones rendering the pics. Everyone else would be under the false impressions that the pictures were coming from satellites etc.
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Yet you have NOTHING. Where are your discoveries of finding photoshop history files on PC's, or put film negatives under the microscope?
Open the first picture in the original post of this thread with Notepad and you will find the following in the header information:
ÿØÿà JFIF H H ÿá.Exif MM * b j( 1 r2 †‡i œ È H H Adobe Photoshop 7.0 2004:02:25 22:36:24 ÿÿ Ø × ( &
This means the image was created with Adobe Photoshop. A very expensive special effects image editor. Same goes for the rest of the round earth pictures.
BZZZZZT! Wrong.
That doesn't prove it was CREATED in Photoshop, douchenozzle. :roll:
That just means it was opened/saved with Photoshop. Most likely was used to either resize it or change it to a web-friendly format (i.e. JPEG instead of TIFF). As far as I know there's no way to know whether a photo was created or just opened and saved with Photoshop.
Does somebody listen to Loveline? ^_^
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saddams hanging was leaked no more than 1 hour after it happend,
people can hack celebrities cell phones for pictures...CELL PHONES,
movies get put on the internet weeks/months before they come out in theaters,
and your telling me that its possible to keep thousands upon thousands of government/NASA officials in such fear to not leak pictures of a flat earth?
Hardly. The only people who would have to keep their mouths shut, would be the ones rendering the pics. Everyone else would be under the false impressions that the pictures were coming from satellites etc.
and the guy who free falled from space?
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oh, here's an idea:
Space elevators. What was it... last summer? Doesn't really matter, the fact is NASA already hosted an event were teams (colleges and whatnot) had to create successful beta-versions of these mechanisms.
In fact... most future technologies like this exist today, but need only to be refined.
Well... the point is, if you want to see for yourself, wait a few decades to be wrong.
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A Round Earth is so engrained into public knowledge they wouldn't change their mind if NASA folded tommorow.
I mean, do you really expect NASA to churn out many megapixel sized images each day?
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A Round Earth is so engrained into public knowledge they wouldn't change their mind if NASA folded tommorow.
I mean, do you really expect NASA to churn out many megapixel sized images each day?
No, I don't, but others do.
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To be honest, if you told your friends that the earth was flat, would they belive you?
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saddams hanging was leaked no more than 1 hour after it happend,
people can hack celebrities cell phones for pictures...CELL PHONES,
movies get put on the internet weeks/months before they come out in theaters,
and your telling me that its possible to keep thousands upon thousands of government/NASA officials in such fear to not leak pictures of a flat earth?
Yes yes, celebrities and Hollywood are lousy at security. But the Government is not Hollywood. How many classified documents do you see circulating the internet? How many Nuclear Secrets can you find with a Google search?
The Government is amazingly good at keeping things secret when need be.
Even if it is possible, how could they possibly even think about faking the thousands of photographs that come out of NASA?
They'd probably have a Photoshop plugin by now.
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ROFL. A photoshop plugin?? Tell you what, if I could I'd give you a million dollars to commision all the artists on deviantart to create a image from scratch that rivals the quality of those photos.
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ROFL. A photoshop plugin?? Tell you what, if I could I'd give you a million dollars to commision all the artists on deviantart to create a image from scratch that rivals the quality of those photos.
That's a good way of offloading a million dollars.
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Even if it is possible, how could they possibly even think about faking the thousands of photographs that come out of NASA?
I think it is not possible for you to have thought about this statement before you posted it.
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Maybe my wording was a bit off.
But.
Tell me all these are fake. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/index.html
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Maybe my wording was a bit off.
But.
Tell me all these are fake. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/index.html
Quite possibly.
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NASA = Part of Conspiracy
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http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308
That thread seriously needs to be stickied.
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How can you seriously fathom THREE PEOPLE making those images all by themselves?
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How can you seriously fathom THREE PEOPLE making those images all by themselves?
I don't actually remember anyone specifying 3, but I'll go ahead and say yes, because I know they could.
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It's in the conspiracy thread.
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It's in the conspiracy thread.
I'll go ahead and say yes, because I know they could.
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I was just telling you where it was. :?
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I was just telling you where it was. :?
Thanks for that. But yes, 3 people could make those pics. One person could make those pics! But it would probably take him 3 times as long.
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So it would take 1 person 30 years? :wink:
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So it would take 1 person 30 years? :wink:
Only if you assume it would take 3 people 10 years.
My guess would be something more like:
3 people (one pic): 2 - 3 days.
1 person (one pic): 5 days to a week.
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Tell me all these are fake. http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/index.html
I've done a post on this topic before, let me find it ...
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=93165&highlight=bacon#93165
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There is no institution in the known world that can render 330 photorealisitc images every day.
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There is no institution in the known world that can render 330 photorealisitc images every day.
Here's where your argument falls over:
Once the inital 3D model of the "globe" was modelled, textured and lit, they wouldn't have to reconstruct it for every new image. All that would be needed is tweaks to the weather patterns, anomolies (such as viewing Kuwait from space during GW1) and slight lighting changes depending on what time of day they were trying to communicate.
Off to the Photoshop expert for a slight polish, and they're done!
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There is no institution in the known world that can render 330 photorealisitc images every day.
Perhaps they're simply doctoring flat earth images into round earth images.
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I have seen many photoshops in my day, and this is one of them.
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That doesn't prove it was CREATED in Photoshop
Poster "Meatballsoup" wanted proof of Photoshop tomfoolery. Well there it is, right there embedded in the image!
Oh, and an expensive image editing software package like Photoshop isn't necessary for resizing images. You could do that with any free image editor. Even MSPaint can resize images and save in JPEG format.
In fact, it looks like the pictures in the OP weren't resized at all. Did the NASA photo team run the image through Photoshop just for kicks?
You want your answer? PSP is a very good program that WON'T lose ANY quality when used to save through. Plus I'm sure NASA can afford the "hefty" $100 price tag; you know, since they're in the conspiracy and all.