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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Q&A => Topic started by: zach3792 on February 07, 2007, 06:24:36 PM
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Why is it that when the climbers that climbed Mt. Everest couldn't see off the end of the earth?
Or, why Can't i see Mt. Everest from my roof? or, even with a telescope?
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Because there is something in the atmosphere that prevents you seeing further than 25 miles in any direction on the flat earth.
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Because earth is an sphere.
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Why is it that when the climbers that climbed Mt. Everest couldn't see off the end of the earth?
Or, why Can't i see Mt. Everest from my roof? or, even with a telescope?
I've raised this point mate. You don't get a very clear answer. I asked why can't I see France when its 70miles away from where I live on the coast on England. They reckon atmospheric distortion. Which is quite stupid. Distortion...well distorts, does not remove light. Especially as something as large at the himalayas
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what does the vacuum, or density of the air have to do with whether or not i can see infinitely?
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what does the vacuum, or density of the air have to do with whether or not i can see infinitely?
Atoms are not transparent. :roll:
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That's a very good question. I should be able to see Everest from my roof, or Europe, or at the very least, the Atlantic Ocean. I might need a pair of binoculars or a telescope to be able to make out the first two, but I'm less than six hundred miles from the Atlantic Ocean, on top of a mountain in the heart of the Appalachian Mountain range, and all of the taller mountains are in the other direction. I should be able to see the Atlantic Ocean. I can't. Just the edge of the horizon. Kinda odd, isn't it?
Edit: wow, responses to the original post sure piled up fast in here...
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Because there is something in the atmosphere that prevents you seeing further than 25 miles in any direction on the flat earth.
That is uttlery stupid!!
U can see more than 25miles. The island where I off the coast, is 15miles and is clear as anything.
There is something? What is this something? Explain it, back up your thoery.
Might as well say it's flat because god made it. A get out clause.
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what does the vacuum, or density of the air have to do with whether or not i can see infinitely?
Atoms are not transparent. :roll:
but they are actually more space than anythng...
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There is something? What is this something?
Take a wild guess.
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Because there is something in the atmosphere that prevents you seeing further than 25 miles in any direction on the flat earth.
On Mt Everest you can see the Horizon 250miles away...by all accounts....
so...err..where do u get your information from mate?
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There is something? What is this something?
Take a wild guess.
Brilliant...it's a debate. I ask, you provide fact. You ask, I provide fact.
Its not a game. If you cant answer, admit that FE is a bit flawed.
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Ok, Tom i'm gonna attempt to consider this theory... how far would you say i can see under ideal conditions, in earths atmosphere.
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but they are actually more space than anythng...
Then you should be able to see perfectly well on a foggy day, shouldn't you?
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but they are actually more space than anythng...
Then you should be able to see perfectly well on a foggy day, shouldn't you?
Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
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Because there is something in the atmosphere that prevents you seeing further than 25 miles in any direction on the flat earth.
On Mt Everest you can see the Horizon 250miles away...by all accounts....
so...err..where do u get your information from mate?
The atmosphere is less dense on top of Mt. Everest.
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but they are actually more space than anythng...
Then you should be able to see perfectly well on a foggy day, shouldn't you?
Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
Atoms are generally are of a lot of space. In response to your odd statement atoms are not transparent. Which holds no relevance to anything
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but they are actually more space than anythng...
Then you should be able to see perfectly well on a foggy day, shouldn't you?
Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
Your eyes can't see too far :D
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That is uttlery stupid!!
U can see more than 25miles. The island where I off the coast, is 15miles and is clear as anything.
Indeed, I've an excellent view from my house (and many other places around the area have them as well), and you can see as far as 15-20 miles in some spots, with absolutely no hazing or distortion. You'd be able to see further, but I'm in the heart of the Appalachian Mountain range, and they kinda block the view beyond that.
I have also seen pictures that friends have taken while on various trips, from the Rocky Mountains, to skyscrapers, forest fire watch towers, etc. where you could see 25 miles, and a little more, with absolutely no distortion. I have also been on a couple skyscrapers myself, and have been able to look out between 10 and 20 miles (if not more), with no distortion.
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Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
It's not my fault if you can't understand that something is in the atmosphere that can obscure view over a distance.
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ok, tom well try an experiment(considering FE "logic") im gonna go get on my roof ill wave a flashlight you wave back if you can see me?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility[/url]"]In extremely clean air in Arctic or mountainous areas, the visibility can be up to 70 to 100 km. However, visibility is often reduced somewhat by air pollution and high humidity.
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Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
It's not my fault if you can't understand that something is in the atmosphere that can obscure view over a distance.
No, it's that stupid avatar, just because your excsuse sucks, doesn't mean you have to whine, silly tom.
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Atoms are generally are of a lot of space. In response to your odd statement atoms are not transparent. Which holds no relevance to anything.
It holds relevance to this entire discussion.
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ok, tom well try an experiment(considering FE "logic") im gonna go get on my roof ill wave a flashlight you wave back if you can see me?
Haha, I'm going to go watch. 8-)
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Because there is something in the atmosphere that prevents you seeing further than 25 miles in any direction on the flat earth.
On Mt Everest you can see the Horizon 250miles away...by all accounts....
so...err..where do u get your information from mate?
The atmosphere is less dense on top of Mt. Everest.
Still would be lookin down at the ground thoughg wouldnt you. So lookin through the fog as it were. You can 250miles up because you position raises above the curavature of the earth. Use your head mate
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Atoms are generally are of a lot of space. In response to your odd statement atoms are not transparent. Which holds no relevance to anything.
It holds relevance to this entire discussion.
Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
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Atoms are generally are of a lot of space. In response to your odd statement atoms are not transparent. Which holds no relevance to anything.
It holds relevance to this entire discussion.
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See, it's funny when people do that, you're supposed to say what relevance it holds, if any, moron, pay attention.
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Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
It's not my fault if you can't understand that something is in the atmosphere that can obscure view over a distance.
Something? What somethings? U reckon 25miles is the longest we can see. But sun, u reckon is the sun 3000miles away. Thats even more atmosphere to look through. Hmm...bit odd
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Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
It's not my fault if you can't understand that something is in the atmosphere that can obscure view over a distance.
Something? What somethings? U reckon 25miles is the longest we can see. But sun, u reckon is the sun 3000miles away. Thats even more atmosphere to look through. Hmm...bit odd
The atmosphere gets thinner with altitude.
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
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My point exactly .... i want Tom and Tom only to reply with real logic...
Why does ascending increase my ability to see over long distances ?
(RE'ers know the real reason)
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My point exactly .... i want Tom and Tom only to reply with real logic...
Why does ascending increase my ability to see over long distances ?
(RE'ers know the real reason)
I went outside, and didn't see the flashlight.
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Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
It's not my fault if you can't understand that something is in the atmosphere that can obscure view over a distance.
Something? What somethings? U reckon 25miles is the longest we can see. But sun, u reckon is the sun 3000miles away. Thats even more atmosphere to look through. Hmm...bit odd
The Atmosphere gets thinner with altitude.
Yeah...i know. Said that in previous posts. If you read n listen mate.
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Why does ascending increase my ability to see over long distances ?
(RE'ers know the real reason)
Atmosphere gets thinner with altitude.
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Yeah...i know. Said that in previous posts. If you read n listen mate.
Then why did you ask?
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
How can you see the sun still on a foggy day then?
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Yeah...i know. Said that in previous posts. If you read n listen mate.
Then why did you ask?
Ask what tom mate? Was tryin to get u to offer a logical explanation. But you just round in circles mate.
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
How can you see the sun still on a foggy day then?
Sometimes you can't.
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
How can you see the sun still on a foggy day then?
Because flat earth is better than plutonium.
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
How can you see the sun still on a foggy day then?
Sometimes you can't.
No, u always can. Hence light??
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
What answer do you really think you'll get, there's air distortion, but I'm not sure he's explained how that works yet, has he.....
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
How can you see the sun still on a foggy day then?
You can hold a flashlight up to the back of your fingers and, even if there is no space between your fingers, some of the light will shine through to the front (specifically, the red light). Normally you can see nothing through your hand.
The same thing applies with the Sun. It's so bright that you'd be amazed what you could see it through.
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
How can you see the sun still on a foggy day then?
You can hold a flashlight up to the back of your fingers and, even if there is no space between your fingers, some of the light will shine through to the front (specifically, the red light). Normally you can see nothing through your hand.
The same thing applies with the Sun. It's so bright that you'd be amazed what you could see it through.
Mate...that me point. So you can see farther than 25miles on a clear day, innit?
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
Airliners don't travel that high. And you would need to be a lot further up.
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Does it? Again, offer an explanation then.
The thing in the atmosphere that obscures your view at a distance is, you know, atoms.
How can you see the sun still on a foggy day then?
You can hold a flashlight up to the back of your fingers and, even if there is no space between your fingers, some of the light will shine through to the front (specifically, the red light). Normally you can see nothing through your hand.
The same thing applies with the Sun. It's so bright that you'd be amazed what you could see it through.
Haha, so the sun is real bright, wow. Then what about the depleting ozone layer, does that mean that there's less air crap for the sun to go through, so if we look anywhere near it, our eyes burn?
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Mate...that me point. So you can see farther than 25miles on a clear day, innit?
Objects over 25 miles away generally aren't as bright as the sun.
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
Airliners don't travel that high. And you would need to be a lot further up.
Actually tom....the cruising speed for an airliner is 30,000ft, so 75% of 40,000ft, you could see everest with your argument of flat earth, less atmosphere up about n that. Come on...chop chop
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Mate...that me point. So you can see farther than 25miles on a clear day, innit?
Objects over 25 miles away aren't generally as bright as the sun.
Illiminated by the sun arent they?
What makes you think it's 25miles? Where did you hear this from Tom mate?
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
Airliners don't travel that high. And you would need to be a lot further up.
i was on a trans. Atlantic flight Newark to Charles Degaulle Paris.
cruising altitude 36,000 feet. by the way we went north off course to decrease distance because the earths measurement is shorter around the farther no you go.... why would you do that if it was flat?
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
Airliners don't travel that high. And you would need to be a lot further up.
i was on a trans. Atlantic flight Newark to Charles Degaulle Paris.
cruising altitude 36,000 feet. by the way we went north off course to decrease distance because the earths measurement is shorter around the farther no you go.... why would you do that if it was flat?
Surely it would take longer to travel the higher up you go?
Bigger the circumfrance you have to follow. Or do u mean something else?
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i was on a trans. Atlantic flight Newark to Charles Degaulle Paris.
cruising altitude 36,000 feet.
And?
by the way we went north off course to decrease distance because the earths measurement is shorter around the farther no you go.... why would you do that if it was flat?
What are you talking about? Distance between points doesn't decrease with altitude in either model.
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
Airliners don't travel that high. And you would need to be a lot further up.
Tom, remember that document you accepted for 60,000 Ft? Yeah...
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say you are traveling the flight that i went on if you are leaving from that far north, in RE FACT it is shorter to travel slightly north than due east... if i was travelling to western europe. in flat earth lies it would actually be more costly and slower to do so.
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i was on a trans. Atlantic flight Newark to Charles Degaulle Paris.
cruising altitude 36,000 feet.
And?
by the way we went north off course to decrease distance because the earths measurement is shorter around the farther no you go.... why would you do that if it was flat?
What are you talking about? Distance between points doesn't decrease with altitude in either model.
Not the brighest of blokes are ya tom mate. Seem to forget what you were arguing about.
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Tom, remember that document you accepted for 60,000 Ft? Yeah...
What about it? Military airspace begins at 60,000 feet.
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say you are traveling the flight that i went on if you are leaving from that far north, in RE FACT it is shorter to travel slightly north than due east... if i was travelling to western europe. in flat earth lies it would actually be more costly and slower to do so.
It's also shorter to travel from the USA to Western Europe over the north pole on the flat earth model.
Perhaps you should read the FAQ.
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Tom, remember that document you accepted for 60,000 Ft? Yeah...
What about it? Military airspace begins at 60,000 feet.
That you take his example too literal.
Like say take his argument, swap it for military aircraft at 60,0000 as opposed to civil plane.
And then think bout his argument if u need full correct info, like 25miles which u cant explain
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so say im at ....40,000 feet in an airliner i should be able to see ...say... an ice wall that happened to be there ?
Airliners don't travel that high. And you would need to be a lot further up.
Military airspace begins at 60,000 feet.
Remember that document I showed you that had a airliner that cruised at 45,000 ft?
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say you are traveling the flight that i went on if you are leaving from that far north, in RE FACT it is shorter to travel slightly north than due east... if i was travelling to western europe. in flat earth lies it would actually be more costly and slower to do so.
It's also shorter to travel from the USA to Western Europe over the north pole on the flat earth model.
Perhaps you should read the FAQ.
So why dont pilots fly that route tom?
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What now Tom????
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say you are traveling the flight that i went on if you are leaving from that far north, in RE FACT it is shorter to travel slightly north than due east... if i was travelling to western europe. in flat earth lies it would actually be more costly and slower to do so.
It's also shorter to travel from the USA to Western Europe over the north pole on the flat earth model.
Perhaps you should read the FAQ.
So why dont pilots fly that route tom?
and if the north is in the center, why is it so cold if the sun passes over just as much as every other area.
Tom mate...'ave you really thought this through mate?
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Like say take his argument, swap it for military aircraft at 60,0000 as opposed to civil plane.
And then think bout his argument if u need full correct info, like 25miles which u cant explain
Well obviously the military pilot would be able to see a bit further, because of less air density at that altitude. What are you trying to say?
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So why dont pilots fly that route tom?
They do.
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and if the north is in the center, why is it so cold if the sun passes over just as much as every other area.
Tom mate...'ave you really thought this through mate?
Read the FAQ. The sun acts as a spotlight.
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So why dont pilots fly that route tom?
They do.
Oh, so that grass I see when I'm flying, is ice, gotcha.
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Like say take his argument, swap it for military aircraft at 60,0000 as opposed to civil plane.
And then think bout his argument if u need full correct info, like 25miles which u cant explain
Well obviously the military pilot would be able to see a bit further, because of less air density at that altitude. What are you trying to say?
But you claimed that there was "some thing" that prevents you from seeing more than 25 mi. in "flat earth"
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Like say take his argument, swap it for military aircraft at 60,0000 as opposed to civil plane.
And then think bout his argument if u need full correct info, like 25miles which u cant explain
Well obviously the military pilot would be able to see a bit further, because of less air density at that altitude. What are you trying to say?
He could see everest from pretty much no matter wheres, cos less air, less distortion and the himalays are massive. I mean if u can see the great wall of china from space. By ur logic, u could see himalayas from anywhere, if there was no disortortion.
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and if the north is in the center, why is it so cold if the sun passes over just as much as every other area.
Tom mate...'ave you really thought this through mate?
Read the FAQ. The sun acts as a spotlight.
No tom....u read a the FAQ. A spotlot?? Only give out light on certain spots? why certain spots? what regulates them?
Why is the sun hot as well? what causes it's and light. Not nuclear fission or fussion or wotever it is, at the core?
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But you claimed that there was "some thing" that prevents you from seeing more than 25 mi. in "flat earth"
You're pretty dense yourself. That something is atoms. And I was talking about viewing distance from sea level.
He could see everest from pretty much no matter wheres, cos less air, less distortion and the himalays are massive. I mean if u can see the great wall of china from space. By ur logic, u could see himalayas from anywhere, if there was no disortortion.
An altitude of 60,000 feet on earth isn't anywhere close to the vacuum of space. Sorry to break it to you.
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do you Believe that man has been into space ?
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do you Believe that man has been into space ?
What does that have to do with the topic of this thread? Start another one if you wish to go off topic.
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But you claimed that there was "some thing" that prevents you from seeing more than 25 mi. in "flat earth"
You're pretty dense yourself. That something is atoms. And I was talking about viewing distance from sea level.
He could see everest from pretty much no matter wheres, cos less air, less distortion and the himalays are massive. I mean if u can see the great wall of china from space. By ur logic, u could see himalayas from anywhere, if there was no disortortion.
An altitude of 60,000 feet on earth isn't anywhere close to the vacuum of space. Sorry to break it to you.
Close enough though mate. The earth is flat, so with clear line of sight, I can see the end of it with a big enough telescope, because of the length in focal point.
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If there's something in the air that prevents us from seeing more than 25 miles, what is it? We would have been able to identify it by now.
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do you Believe that man has been into space ?
What does that have to do with the topic of this thread? Start another one if you wish to go off topic.
I'ts my thread... ill do what i wish. do you have an answer TOMMY BOY
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do you Believe that man has been into space ?
What does that have to do with the topic of this thread? Start another one if you wish to go off topic.
says tom who cant answer a question
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Read the FAQ. The sun acts as a spotlight.
Actually, that's easily proven wrong. I'm pretty sure we're all scattered across the Earth, and each have a different angle viewpoint on the Sun, and have seen it at different times of the day. Every single time, it's round, and the light comes off of it equally in all directions from all parts. Since we're all viewing it from different angles because of our varying locations, and can see it from different angles as it moves across the sky, it's shape should change. It doesn't, the Sun perfectly round from all angles and at all times of day, and projects light equally in all directions at all angles and at all times of the day. That can only happen if it is a Sphere, and projecting light across it's entire Spherical surface. The Sun is undeniably a Sphere, not a Disk.
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Close enough though mate. The earth is flat, so with clear line of sight, I can see the end of it with a big enough telescope, because of the length in focal point.
Maybe if you were at an altitude of 200 nautical miles.
But at sea level, your telescope would be limited to 25 miles out. After that point atoms become too dense to see through.
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If there's something in the air that prevents us from seeing more than 25 miles, what is it? We would have been able to identify it by now.
Why exactly 25miles tom?? Why tom?
Where did u get this information from?? I'm open minded...share with me ur resources
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Or, even why does the sun appear to rise and set on the horizon .... not appear in the sky .....could it be that we revolve around it ... while we rotate on an axis???
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If there's something in the air that prevents us from seeing more than 25 miles, what is it? We would have been able to identify it by now.
We have. They're called "atoms."
Why exactly 25miles tom?? Why tom?
Over a distance of 25 miles it becomes simply too dense to see through.
You can figure this out with simple high school math.
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Close enough though mate. The earth is flat, so with clear line of sight, I can see the end of it with a big enough telescope, because of the length in focal point.
Maybe if you were at an altitude of 200 nautical miles.
But at sea level, your telescope would be limited to 25 miles out. After that point atoms become too dense to see through.
at exactly 25miles?? Who discovered this then? where's the proof?
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If there's something in the air that prevents us from seeing more than 25 miles, what is it? We would have been able to identify it by now.
We have. They're called "atoms."
Why exactly 25miles tom?? Why tom?
Over a distance of 25 miles it becomes simply too dense to see through.
You can figure this out with simple high school math.
Yeah? Where's that maths for it tom mate? Where's the proof. U tell us lot the text you got it from. Exactly 25miles is it?
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If there's something in the air that prevents us from seeing more than 25 miles, what is it? We would have been able to identify it by now.
We have. They're called "atoms."
Why exactly 25miles tom?? Why tom?
The air density at sea level, may be calculated as: D = (101325) / (287.05 * (15 + 273.15)) = 1.2250 kg/m3
Over a distance of 25 miles it becomes simply too dense to see through.
Dense is the wrong word. You make it sound as if there's a constant change in the density of the air between where you're standing and a circle 25 miles away around you, culminating in a wall.
Air is not transparent. It is translucent. It absorbs, refracts, and diffuses light (for examples of this, look at the sky). If you stand more than a certain distance away, enough of the light bouncing off of an object in your direction will be absorbed, refracted, or diffused that the object is not clearly visible. This effect will get more pronounced over longer distances, and outside of 25 miles, you can basically see squat.
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my question ???
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Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility
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my question ???
mhmm...but we can see other galaxies though? All the light travelling, through all that distoration. 25miles is nothing compared to 5billion light years
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Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility
ahh right...so not quite 25miles then tom mate
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Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility
Hmm... can't help but noting that they say visibility can be 70-100 km (reduced/affected by pollution and the current weather conditions), and 25 miles is just over 40 km.
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Exactly 25miles is it?
Nope. It's actually a sliding number. Viewing distance has a lot to do with Density, Pressure, Gas Constant, and Temperature. The figure of 25 miles is a generalized number assuming a clear day looking over the ocean with average temperatures.
Density = Pressure / Gas Constant * Temperature
Using the ISA standard sea level conditions of Pressure = 101325 Pa and Temperature = 15 deg C, the air density at sea level, may be calculated as:
D = (101325) / (287.05 * (15 + 273.15)) = 1.2250 kg/m3
Less density would allow a greater viewing distance, more density would restrict viewing distance.
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Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility
Hmm... can't help but noting that they say visibility can be 70-100 km (reduced/affected by pollution and the current weather conditions), and 25 miles is just over 40 km.
You misquoted them...
In extremely clean air in Arctic or mountainous areas, the visibility can be up to 70 to 100 km.
It's usually a lot less than that.
For instance, I think the visibility in New York right now is about 16km.
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Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility
Hmm... can't help but noting that they say visibility can be 70-100 km (reduced/affected by pollution and the current weather conditions), and 25 miles is just over 40 km.
You misquoted them...
In extremely clean air in Arctic or mountainous areas, the visibility can be up to 70 to 100 km.
It's usually a lot less than that.
For instance, I think the visibility in New York right now is about 16km.[/
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I'm sorry bit if everest was 50miles away, I would still see it
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ok, as starter of the thread i raise a new topic..... why does the sun and moon appear to rise in fall... if we are indeed in Flat earth.?
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Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility
Hmm... can't help but noting that they say visibility can be 70-100 km (reduced/affected by pollution and the current weather conditions), and 25 miles is just over 40 km.
You misquoted them...
In extremely clean air in Arctic or mountainous areas, the visibility can be up to 70 to 100 km.
It's usually a lot less than that.
For instance, I think the visibility in New York right now is about 16km.
I'm sorry bit if everest was 50miles away, I would still see it
Yes. Everest is in the Himalayas, which are 2400km long by 250 km wide. It's also in Nepal, which isn't exactly known for its smog. So yeah, you'd probably be able to see 80km from within a mountainous area with clean air.
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Here, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visibility
Hmm... can't help but noting that they say visibility can be 70-100 km (reduced/affected by pollution and the current weather conditions), and 25 miles is just over 40 km.
You misquoted them...
In extremely clean air in Arctic or mountainous areas, the visibility can be up to 70 to 100 km.
It's usually a lot less than that.
For instance, I think the visibility in New York right now is about 16km.
I'm sorry bit if everest was 50miles away, I would still see it
Yes. Everest is in the Himalayas, which are 2400km long by 250 km wide. It's also in Nepal, which isn't exactly known for its smog. So yeah, you'd probably be able to see 80km from within a mountainous area with clean air.
Ok...GPS satelites then? How do they work?
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ok, as starter of the thread i raise a new topic..... why does the sun and moon appear to rise in fall... if we are indeed in Flat earth.?
Ok...GPS satelites then? How do they work?
Start a new thread if you would like to go off topic.
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Why do the sun and the moon rise in the east and set in the west and not must appear in the sky above??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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ok, as starter of the thread i raise a new topic..... why does the sun and moon appear to rise in fall... if we are indeed in Flat earth.?
Ok...GPS satelites then? How do they work?
Start a new thread if you would like to go off topic.
All topics are aruging the same thing though mate aren't they?
FE vs RE
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Why do the sun and the moon rise in the east and set in the west and not must appear in the sky above??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Troll
What you would find written on your forehead if you looked into a reflective surface.
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mt everest is cooooooooool
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why cant we all gang up and torter tom till he stops with the atoms crap. :twisted:
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why cant we all gang up and torter tom till he stops with the atoms crap. :twisted:
Because this isn't middle school?
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I don't think midschool was simple, but you can convince me otherwise.
Look at me now: I spend all day on my bed typing on this forum and playing video games. Eating chips and drinking beer. All I need now is a girlfriend! :lol:
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Actually, many are, i.e. gases. DUH!
what does the vacuum, or density of the air have to do with whether or not i can see infinitely?
Atoms are not transparent. :roll:
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hehe seriously EvilToothpaste is dreaming here...
you doing that O.o which girl would want to join you LOL
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Actually, many are, i.e. gases. DUH!
what does the vacuum, or density of the air have to do with whether or not i can see infinitely?
Atoms are not transparent. :roll:
Not all gasses are transparent.
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It's a hypothetical case wherein life is simple.
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relative to size, halfblind guy can hurt his eyes looking at the sun which is millions of kilometers away.
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Foggy day? What does that answer?
If i hold my hand over my eyes....what happens then?
It's not my fault if you can't understand that something is in the atmosphere that can obscure view over a distance.
Something? What somethings? U reckon 25miles is the longest we can see. But sun, u reckon is the sun 3000miles away. Thats even more atmosphere to look through. Hmm...bit odd
The atmosphere gets thinner with altitude.
as does your theory
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I know, I was refering to many gases, not all.
Actually, many are, i.e. gases. DUH!
what does the vacuum, or density of the air have to do with whether or not i can see infinitely?
Atoms are not transparent. :roll:
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fun can be fun too[list=][/list]
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Actually, many are, i.e. gases. DUH!
No gases are transparent.
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No gasses are transperent
Hydrogen?
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No gasses are transperent
Hydrogen?
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No gasses are transperent
Hydrogen?
hydrogen is transparent, but hydrogen atoms are not.
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Hydrogen?
Nope.
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Hydrogen?
Nope.
The gas itself is clear, not the atoms. :wink:
Quit mincing your words, Tom.
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The gas itself is clear, not the atoms. :wink:
Gas is made of atoms. :roll:
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If you have the accelerating upwards theory, the air would all have equal 'pressure' put on it. Doesn't this mean it would be the same density all the way through?
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If you have the accelerating upwards theory, the air would all have equal 'pressure' put on it. Doesn't this mean it would be the same density all the way through?
Do you think before you post?
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If you have the accelerating upwards theory, the air would all have equal 'pressure' put on it. Doesn't this mean it would be the same density all the way through?
Do you think before you post?
yes. Do you?
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Do you think before you post
Could you be a bigger ass?
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If you have the accelerating upwards theory, the air would all have equal 'pressure' put on it. Doesn't this mean it would be the same density all the way through?
No, it wouldn't. Say for instance there is a bottle of some kind of gas. If the bottle is just sitting there, or even moving at a constant velocity, the gas will have equal density and pressure throughout.
When the bottle is accelerated the inertia of the gas pushes against the bottom (or the source-direction of the acceleration, where ever that may be) creating higher density on the bottom and lower density at the top; a density gradient (and thus a pressure gradient, too).
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air is clear you bunch of animals not perfectly clear but...........also the earth is umA SPHEREyeh yeh
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air is clear you bunch of animals not perfectly clear but...........also the earth is umA SPHEREyeh yeh
so true, so true 8)
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BIG OL' BUMP
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Why?
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What's up with all this useless bumping of old threads?