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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: Danang on January 04, 2022, 08:04:41 AM
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Flights from Alaska to Scandinavia go through Seattle in the south?
Good idea, for, going north for shortcut would make the plane hit the dome. Going north has zero history.
Globe as well as Conventional FE got disqualification.
Phew rules~
(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2022/01/polish_20220104_220901767.jpg?w=974)
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To be honest Danang who gives a flying **** about any of your flight/train/reindeer flight times? If you think any of this actually proves what you want it to prove in the slightest way then you are very much mistaken. All it proves is that you are a fantasist.
Instead why don't you try and explain something to me that I am actually interested in. Such as how lunar eclipses could happen according to your 'phew' reality.
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Flights from Alaska to Scandinavia go through Seattle in the south?
Care to provide an example of such a flight?
And by that I mean a direct, non-stop flight.
If you can't, then your argument is garbage and doesn't disqualify anything.
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Without showing a nonstop flight (and we all know you won't) then we have to assume it stops in Seattle. Gee, how DARE they stop at a hub to exchange passengers! Or are you really that naive to think there is enough interest in a direct flight between Anchorage and Stockholm? Go troll somewhere else.
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Only such a short distance of 6,570 km but no direct flight so far? And passengers are forced to suffer 22 hours of flight for a much shorter distance???
Didn't you question it why???
You cannot cross the center of north pole, because it doesn't exist. It's a huge rim.
Straight flights from west to east vice a versa will make you gradually shift the latitude approaching the north rim. Because the earth is phew~
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You cannot cross the center of north pole, because it doesn't exist. It's a huge rim.
Sure you can. Flights cross the center of the North Pole by going through the NP Vortex wormhole. Everybody knows that.
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Only such a short distance of 6,570 km but no direct flight so far?
And how many people want to take such a flight?
You have been provided plenty of examples of flights that go north. For example, New York to Stolkholm; such as that flown as Finnair AY 30.
Being able to find particular cities where there are not direct flights doesn't the RE model is wrong.
You would need to show there is a demand for such a flight.
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Only such a short distance of 6,570 km but no direct flight so far? And passengers are forced to suffer 22 hours of flight for a much shorter distance???
Didn't you question it why???
I'm sure the reality and economics of hub and spoke traffic has something to do with it. How much demand is there for Anchorage to Stockholm anyway? But, of course, as we predicted, you can't show that it is a direct flight. So you're complaining about a stop over, ie nothing.
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You cannot cross the center of north pole, because it doesn't exist. It's a huge rim.
Really...? How do you know this because this is the first I've heard of it. If that were really the case then I'm sure that someone would have mentioned this apart from you. So how do you know? What is your evidence?
What lies inside this huge rim?
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What lies inside this huge rim?
In his model? The entire Earth. His model is just the reverse of the monopole map with the North Pole at the center, so his South Pole is at the center and the North Pole is smeared out around the rim.
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Interesting. I wonder what evidence or data he bases that model on.
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I'm sorry, but Europe to West coast flights don't fly over south america.
And the bering straight isn't a massive ocean.
This "model" screws up distances in the northern hemisphere, just like the regular flat earth one screws up distances in the southern hemisphere.
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I still don't fully understand what this 'Phew' thing which Danang keeps droning on about actually is. Some people have said it refers to a different value of pi (12?) but when pi is simply the value of the ratio between the diameter of a circle and its circumference I'm not sure how you can vary that from the standard value of 3.14. Unless Danang has come up with his very own version of what a circle is then changing the value of a mathematical constant while keeping all other aspects of geometry the same is very, very clever.
Danang himself has never clearly explained it other than declaring his love for whatever 'it' is. So I'm a little confused! I can't believe in or accept something when I don't know what I'm supposed to be believing or accepting. So while I'm sure that in his mind, 'Phew' does indeed rule... I'm not actually sure what 'Phew' is or means.
In deciding what is true or not I go by evidence alone and so far no evidence has been presented which gives me reason to think I should change my mind about which side I'm on.
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I still don't fully understand what this 'Phew' thing which Danang keeps droning on about actually is. Some people have said it refers to a different value of pi (12?) but when pi is simply the value of the ratio between the diameter of a circle and its circumference I'm not sure how you can vary that from the standard value of 3.14. Unless Danang has come up with his very own version of what a circle is then changing the value of a mathematical constant while keeping all other aspects of geometry the same is very, very clever.
Danang himself has never clearly explained it other than declaring his love for whatever 'it' is. So I'm a little confused! I can't believe in or accept something when I don't know what I'm supposed to be believing or accepting. So while I'm sure that in his mind, 'Phew' does indeed rule... I'm not actually sure what 'Phew' is or means.
In deciding what is true or not I go by evidence alone and so far no evidence has been presented which gives me reason to think I should change my mind about which side I'm on.
Danang is just some weird troll and 'phew' (whatever the F that is) is just his shtick. Pay no mind to it
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Well it is obviously something that he is very proud of with all the various emojis that he likes to add to his self-complimenting one line remarks about it.
So perhaps the man himself could explain in clear and precise terms what he means by it. At the same time perhaps he could also come up with the smallest grain of actual evidence that will make the entire scientific community suddenly sit up and listen to him. Please hurry Danang because I've been holding my breath for too long already...
I can't find any other references to 'phew' other than from your own posts and for one person to come up with an entirely new and revolutionary theory of the world... well that is pretty much unprecedented in human history I would say.
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Well it is obviously something that he is very proud of with all the various emojis that he likes to add to his self-complimenting one line remarks about it.
So perhaps the man himself could explain in clear and precise terms what he means by it. At the same time perhaps he could also come up with the smallest grain of actual evidence that will make the entire scientific community suddenly sit up and listen to him. Please hurry Danang because I've been holding my breath for too long already...
I can't find any other references to 'phew' other than from your own posts and for one person to come up with an entirely new and revolutionary theory of the world... well that is pretty much unprecedented in human history I would say.
Thank you thank you...
Maths Phew has failed. ;D
Now, Physic Phew = the right Physics that can make you say "phew" ;D
Anything physics that comes from reality based on logic, not here say as happening at schools.
1. South Polar Centered FE
2. Downwards Universal Deceleration AKA reverse UA
3. Domes make stars at celestial northern hemiplane become unreal, only reflection of the real stars
4. go to https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1463513 or https://twitter.com/search?q=%40DanangTiyasworo%20%23FlatEarth&src=typed_query&f=live
6. etc.
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What lies inside this huge rim?
In his model? The entire Earth. His model is just the reverse of the monopole map with the North Pole at the center, so his South Pole is at the center and the North Pole is smeared out around the rim.
I wanted to say so before. you've been ahead of me ~
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this is basic, before you go far to other subjects
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIfk6nJVEAATL5M?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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So according to you then the south pole is at the centre of the Earth and the north 'pole' is the circumference? Does it occur to you that that goes against just about everything that we experience in real life? For instance how is it that there are two clearly visible celestial poles around which the stars rotate, separated by 180 degrees on the sky?
What you are saying or claiming simply doesn't match what we observe. However much you might think it does or want it to, it doesn't.
Yep OK a very nice photo of the Moon showing atmospheric refraction. I've seen hundreds of those. If you think of the Earth as a sphere rotating around a N/S axis that matches exactly with what we observe.
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So according to you then the south pole is at the centre of the Earth and the north 'pole' is the circumference? Does it occur to you that that goes against just about everything that we experience in real life? For instance how is it that there are two clearly visible celestial poles around which the stars rotate, separated by 180 degrees on the sky?
What you are saying or claiming simply doesn't match what we observe. However much you might think it does or want it to, it doesn't.
It's advance subject that I still research.
But once the earth is proven flat, you cannot believe you eyes only.
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But once the earth is proven flat, you cannot believe you eyes only.
If the Earth is really flat, as you obviously believe then just tell me this. How is it that equatorial mounts work perfectly the world over?
I feel you have long wait on your hands with that one... because you can't prove something which simply isn't true.
Why would the Earth be flat when we can see that all the other planets are round?
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Maths Phew has failed. ;D
Now, Physic Phew
Has also repeatedly failed, with your claims being refuted time and time again; with you unable to offer anything to support your nonsense, and plenty to show your nonsense is wrong.
Can you explain the flight from New York to Stockholm?
A fairly short flight, and a direct one, which leaves and goes north from New York and arrives from the north in Stockholm.
But once the earth is proven flat, you cannot believe you eyes only.
Good thing it hasn't been proven flat.
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But once the earth is proven flat, you cannot believe you eyes only.
If the Earth is really flat, as you obviously believe then just tell me this. How is it that equatorial mounts work perfectly the world over?
I feel you have long wait on your hands with that one... because you can't prove something which simply isn't true.
the design of the universe is extremely amazing
but equatorial mounts stuff is still under the domain of perspective.
there are variables to consider: dome, physical figuring out on the real earth etc. Go basic first.
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whoever has eyes, just see it (after Jesus) ;D
this is basic, before you go far to other subjects
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIfk6nJVEAATL5M?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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but equatorial mounts stuff is still under the domain of perspective.
there are variables to consider: dome, physical figuring out on the real earth etc. Go basic first.
What are you talking about?!? I use equatorial mounts all the time in both hemispheres and they work perfectly. What variables do you need to consider. Dome of perspective? What does that even mean?
Basic, OK. Equatorial mounts are aligned so their polar axis lines up with the Earths polar axis. That's what polar alignment means. You can then track the stars in both hemispheres using just one direction of movement (RA = east to west). That's pretty basic stuff.
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This is the basic
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIfk6nJVEAATL5M?format=jpg&name=900x900)
to which the rest subjects must be related, otherwise you are seeing illusion.
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"Einstein might be wrong" ~ Michio Kaku
Is the modern physics that chaotic so far?
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Has also repeatedly failed, with your claims being refuted time and time again; with you unable to offer anything to support your nonsense, and plenty to show your nonsense is wrong.
Can you explain the flight from New York to Stockholm?
A fairly short flight, and a direct one, which leaves and goes north from New York and arrives from the north in Stockholm.
New York - Vienna - Stockholm
10 hours to 12 hours for +/- 6,319 km, that's still under 800kph. :o
Try again. Fix the actual distance.
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"Einstein might be wrong" ~ Michio Kaku
Is the modern physics that chaotic so far?
"Sensationalist celebrity physicist says sensational-sounding thing to draw attention to himself" ~ Danang, thinking he's being clever.
Einstein was definitely wrong, in that GR is obviously incomplete. Just like QM is incomplete. And Newtonian mechanics was incomplete. The list goes on. Will we have a Theory of Everything one day? Maybe, maybe not. But rest assured, if there is a ToE that's uncovered at some point, your "phew" won't be a part of it.
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Has also repeatedly failed, with your claims being refuted time and time again; with you unable to offer anything to support your nonsense, and plenty to show your nonsense is wrong.
Can you explain the flight from New York to Stockholm?
A fairly short flight, and a direct one, which leaves and goes north from New York and arrives from the north in Stockholm.
New York - Vienna - Stockholm
10 hours to 12 hours for +/- 6,319 km, that's still under 800kph. :o
Try again. Fix the actual distance.
I don't know what Vienna has to do with this. But NYC to Stockholm, Finnair:
6,310 KM
6:55
500 KTS
(https://i.imgur.com/WAZH58s.png)
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Has also repeatedly failed, with your claims being refuted time and time again; with you unable to offer anything to support your nonsense, and plenty to show your nonsense is wrong.
Can you explain the flight from New York to Stockholm?
A fairly short flight, and a direct one, which leaves and goes north from New York and arrives from the north in Stockholm.
New York - Vienna - Stockholm
10 hours to 12 hours for +/- 6,319 km, that's still under 800kph. :o
Try again. Fix the actual distance.
I don't know what Vienna has to do with this. But NYC to Stockholm, Finnair:
6,310 KM
6:55
500 KTS
(https://i.imgur.com/WAZH58s.png)
Danang likes to troll with flights that have stopovers and hopes that people don't notice. He also doesn't understand that airplanes don't fly the entire time at max speed no matter how many times it has been pointed out.
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Danang likes to be contrary for attention.
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New York - Vienna - Stockholm
10 hours to 12 hours for +/- 6,319 km, that's still under 800kph. :o
No, roughly 7 hours to 7.5 hours.
So over 840 kph.
And that is including taxi time as well.
If you just focus on the flight time, then you are down to 6.5 to 7 hours. That gives a speed of at least 900 kph.
Quite reasonable given the planes cruise speed and that a portion of the flight will be at a much lower speed.
This is perfectly fine on a round Earth, but is impossible in your fantasy.
So no, YOU try again.
Explain how this flight works in your fantasy.
As for your false claims regarding mirages, you already have a thread for that. No need to spam this thread with that nonsense.
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Phew sometimes gives pics for conveniences, but it gives real links. 8)
https://www.expedia.com/Flight-Information?journeyContinuationId=AQqkAwrlAnY1LXNvcy0wOTJhMWMyOWJiY2FkODM2MzRhNjI1NTUzNGZlYThkNy0wLTAtMX4yLlN-QVFvQ0NBRVNCd2pVQkJBQkdBRW9BbGdDY0FBfkFRcFlDaW9JMUtBQkVnTXlNVEFZcVZFZ2k1SUJLTlRzZ2dJdzJ1LUNBamhNUUFCWUFXb0lSRWxUUTA5VlRsUUtLZ2pVb0FFU0F6YzRPQmlMa2dFZ29Hd29uZkdDQWpDbTg0SUNPRXhBQVZnQmFnaEVTVk5EVDFWT1ZBcFlDaW9JMUtBQkVnTTNPRE1Zb0d3Z2k1SUJLTmp6Z2dJdzRmV0NBamhNUUFCWUFXb0lSRWxUUTA5VlRsUUtLZ2pVb0FFU0F6SXdPUmlMa2dFZ3FWRW92UDZDQWpDY2dvTUNPRXhBQVZnQmFnaEVTVk5EVDFWT1ZCSUtDQUVRQVJnQktnSlVVQmdCSWdRSUFSQUJLQUlvQXlnRU1BRRHD9Shcj2iIQBoSCAESDgoHUFQzSDE1TRIDTElTGhMIAhIPCghQVDE4SDM1TRIDTElTIgEBKgUSAwoBMRI_ChYKCjIwMjItMDEtMjMSA0pGSxoDQVJOChYKCjIwMjItMDEtMjQSA0FSThoDSkZLEgcSBUNPQUNIGgIQASACIAE%3D
Via Portugal??? Not "shortcut" through the north???
1. They might have found the accurate route as presented by phew before.
2. They are already for phew.
Oops both are the same! ;D
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What matters is reality in the real flight, not map.
Does the flight go with straight path? Or curved path? Why going straightly to the east/west will gradually shift the latitude position to the north?
Only Phew gives the logical answer~
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In this modern era, in intercontinental flight, if the plane's average speed is under 800 kph, that's unforgiven, even a lie.
An airplane in present day even can compete the sun.
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Danang likes to be contrary for attention.
Danang likes to be contrary for the truth.
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Phew sometimes gives pics for conveniences, but it gives real links. 8)
Via Portugal??? Not "shortcut" through the north???
1. They might have found the accurate route as presented by phew before.
2. They are already for phew.
Oops both are the same! ;D
Via Portugal? That's the route this particular flight takes, decided upon by the airline TAP Air. TAP is the Portuguese Airline. So, umm, yeah, Lisbon is their hub. So what? You've already been shown a Finnair flight that is direct from JFK to Stockholm. Different airline different route. Are Airlines not allowed to non-direct flights?
And you left out the details. There's a 3 hour+ layover in Lisbon:
10:00pm - New York
John F. Kennedy Intl. (JFK)
6h 30m flight
TAP Portugal 210
Airbus A330-200
Economy/Coach (L)
Arrival9:30am - Lisbon
Humberto Delgado (LIS)
Arrives Mon, Jan 24
Layover: 3h 15m in Lisbon
Departure12:45pm - Lisbon
Humberto Delgado (LIS)
4h 25m flight
TAP Portugal 788
Economy/Coach (L)
Arrival6:10pm - Stockholm
Arlanda (ARN)
Here's a Finnair non-stop (https://www.expedia.com/Flights-Search?filters=%5B%7B%22numOfStopFilterValue%22%3A%7B%22stopInfo%22%3A%7B%22stopFilterOperation%22%3A%22EQUAL%22%2C%22numberOfStops%22%3A0%7D%7D%7D%5D&leg1=from%3ANew%20York%2C%20NY%20%28JFK-John%20F.%20Kennedy%20Intl.%29%2Cto%3AStockholm%20%28ARN-Arlanda%29%2Cdeparture%3A1%2F22%2F2022TANYT&leg2=from%3AStockholm%20%28ARN-Arlanda%29%2Cto%3ANew%20York%2C%20NY%20%28JFK-John%20F.%20Kennedy%20Intl.%29%2Cdeparture%3A1%2F23%2F2022TANYT&mode=search&options=carrier%3A%2A%2Ccabinclass%3A%2Cmaxhops%3A1%2Cnopenalty%3AN&passengers=adults%3A1%2Cchildren%3A0%2Cinfantinlap%3AN&sortOrder=INCREASING&sortType=PRICE&trip=roundtrip), as you said, a real link:
Departure 8:35pm - New York
John F. Kennedy Intl. (JFK)
7h 15m flight
Finnair 30
AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900
Economy/Coach (H)
Arrival 9:50am - Stockholm
Arlanda (ARN)
Are you high?
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Phew sometimes gives pics for conveniences, but it gives real links. 8)
https://www.expedia.com/Flight-Information?journeyContinuationId=AQqkAwrlAnY1LXNvcy0wOTJhMWMyOWJiY2FkODM2MzRhNjI1NTUzNGZlYThkNy0wLTAtMX4yLlN-QVFvQ0NBRVNCd2pVQkJBQkdBRW9BbGdDY0FBfkFRcFlDaW9JMUtBQkVnTXlNVEFZcVZFZ2k1SUJLTlRzZ2dJdzJ1LUNBamhNUUFCWUFXb0lSRWxUUTA5VlRsUUtLZ2pVb0FFU0F6YzRPQmlMa2dFZ29Hd29uZkdDQWpDbTg0SUNPRXhBQVZnQmFnaEVTVk5EVDFWT1ZBcFlDaW9JMUtBQkVnTTNPRE1Zb0d3Z2k1SUJLTmp6Z2dJdzRmV0NBamhNUUFCWUFXb0lSRWxUUTA5VlRsUUtLZ2pVb0FFU0F6SXdPUmlMa2dFZ3FWRW92UDZDQWpDY2dvTUNPRXhBQVZnQmFnaEVTVk5EVDFWT1ZCSUtDQUVRQVJnQktnSlVVQmdCSWdRSUFSQUJLQUlvQXlnRU1BRRHD9Shcj2iIQBoSCAESDgoHUFQzSDE1TRIDTElTGhMIAhIPCghQVDE4SDM1TRIDTElTIgEBKgUSAwoBMRI_ChYKCjIwMjItMDEtMjMSA0pGSxoDQVJOChYKCjIwMjItMDEtMjQSA0FSThoDSkZLEgcSBUNPQUNIGgIQASACIAE%3D
Via Portugal??? Not "shortcut" through the north???
1. They might have found the accurate route as presented by phew before.
2. They are already for phew.
Oops both are the same! ;D
AGAIN with a flight that is NOT nonstop. In this case YOU chose one with an airline based in Portugal. For them they would usually not be able to do a direct flight between two other countries without stopping in their own first. In the freedoms of the air, the higher numbered ones are rarer to have the right to do.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air Plus there is the reality of hub and spoke traffic. Just because YOU are ignorant of this doesn't mean everyone else is.
YOU are dishonest in choosing a flight with a stop.
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Phew sometimes gives pics for conveniences
You mean to pretend there is a problem and make it hard to find just what the picture actually means?
Here is a link for you:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/FIN30/history/20220108/0135Z/KJFK/ESSA
The total travel time was 7 hr 15 minutes, with 26 minutes of taxiing before takeoff and 6 after landing.
Here is another:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/FIN30/history/20220102/0135Z/KJFK/ESSA
The total travel time was 7 hr 20 minutes, and that included 21 minutes of taxi time on departure and 7 minutes on arrival.
Providing dishonest garbage where you intentionally add a stopover where you just wait for 3 hours doesn't help justify your case as it does nothing to refute the non-stop flight.
Here is another link for you:
https://www.expedia.com/Flight-Information?journeyContinuationId=AQq-AQqrAXY1LXNvcy00NmFmNDkzNzA3OWJiZWJhMzM4NWM1NTE3MmEzNmUxMC0wLTF-Mi5TfkFRb0NDQUVTQndqVUJCQUJHQUVvQWxnQmNBQX5BUW9vQ2lZSXdiSUJFZ0l6TUJpcFVTQ2diQ2lfZ29NQ01QS0Znd0k0VEVBQVdBRnFCa1ZNU1VkSVZCSUtDQUVRQVJnQktnSkJXUmdCSWdRSUFSQUJLQUlvQXlnRU1BRRHNzMzMzCx8QCoFEgMKATESKQoWCgoyMDIyLTAxLTI1EgNKRksaA0FSThIJEgVDT0FDSBgBGgIQASABIAE%3D
I provided a direct flight.
That direct flight shows your claims are pure garbage.
But even looking at your garbage, we see there is a flight from New York to Lisbon.
According to your link, that takes 6 hours and 30 minutes. Far too little for your phew nonsense.
Via Portugal??? Not "shortcut" through the north???
Yes, because you told it to. That just shows your dishonesty.
What matters is reality in the real flight, not map.
No, both matter.
But what is important is the real direct flight.
Does the flight go with straight path? Or curved path?
It follows a curved path along the surface of the globe.
It starts heading north east, and then eventually ends up heading south east, without requiring a significant turn.
Why going straightly to the east/west will gradually shift the latitude position to the north?
If you mean you start going due east and continue in a straight line following the curvature of Earth, that only happens in the south. If you try it in the north you end up going south.
This shows Earth isn't flat.
Only a RE provides a logical answer.
Only a RE explains why flights in the northern hemisphere go to the north for a shorter path while those in the southern hemisphere go south for a shorter path.
In this modern era, in intercontinental flight, if the plane's average speed is under 800 kph, that's unforgiven, even a lie.
An airplane in present day even can compete the sun.
That is only if you include taxi time. The flight I provided had an average speed above 900 kph.
As for "compete the sun" that depends on your latitude.
If you are far enough north or south, you can race the sun by walking.
Danang likes to be contrary for the truth.
You mean contrary to the truth.
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Again:
Start from basic.
IF undoubedtly earth is flat, you have to dismiss a globe, whatever flight seem to be "coherent" with your delusional fantasy. (Gee I used Jack's line) ;D
The next step, you have to pick between conventional FE or Phew FE.
The survey says... conventional FE is already disqualified.
As to phew, it explores actual reality as I said before: the shifting latitude, the huge broadness of Northern hemiplane, zero northwards flight at northernmost of the earth.
Not to mention speed math is strange compared to the real super speed of MODERN airplane. Under 800 kph is a joke. :o
Case closed. Please go phew 👌
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"Einstein might be wrong" ~ Michio Kaku
Is the modern physics that chaotic so far?
"Sensationalist celebrity physicist says sensational-sounding thing to draw attention to himself" ~ Danang, thinking he's being clever.
Einstein was definitely wrong, in that GR is obviously incomplete. Just like QM is incomplete. And Newtonian mechanics was incomplete. The list goes on. Will we have a Theory of Everything one day? Maybe, maybe not. But rest assured, if there is a ToE that's uncovered at some point, your "phew" won't be a part of it.
Einstein only built an assumption, and in his last days he regretted what he wrote/preached about physics.
When Einstein got wrong, the modern physics accordingly got doomsday.
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As for "compete the sun" that depends on your latitude.
If you are far enough north or south, you can race the sun by walking
And modern airplane can go faster than Concorde.
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As for "compete the sun" that depends on your latitude.
If you are far enough north or south, you can race the sun by walking
And modern airplane can go faster than Concorde.
Evidence?
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https://airportcodes.io/en/blog/top-10-fastest-passenger-airplanes-in-the-world/
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Again:
Start from basic.
IF undoubedtly earth is flat
It isn't.
All the available evidence, including flights, points to Earth being round.
As such, we have no reason to dismiss the globe.
You falsely claimed flights refute the globe, yet at every attempt you have failed to demonstrate that.
These flights refute your garbage and support the globe.
So no, we don't need to pick any delusional FE model.
We can stick to the globe. If you want us to reject it, you need to demonstrate an actual problem with the globe, not just repeatedly claiming there is one.
As to phew, it explores actual reality as I said before: the shifting latitude, the huge broadness of Northern hemiplane, zero northwards flight at northernmost of the earth.
You mean it repeatedly rejects reality and tries to substitute in pure fantasy.
There is no northern hemiplane, and the northern hemisphere is the same size as the southern.
Flights in the north do go north, just like the one I provided you still ignore.
If you were at the northern most point on Earth you would be at the north pole, and every direction is south.
Your wilful ignorance of reality will not change it.
Not to mention speed math is strange compared to the real super speed of MODERN airplane. Under 800 kph is a joke. :o
Your inability to comprehend basic maths is not a problem for the RE, it is a problem for you.
As I demonstrated the speed is over 900 kph.
Repeating the same lie doesn't demonstrate any problem with the globe. It just demonstrates your dishonesty.
And modern airplane can go faster than Concorde.
Modern fighter jets can, commercial planes for commerical passenger transport cannot.
https://airportcodes.io/en/blog/top-10-fastest-passenger-airplanes-in-the-world/
Which show 2 faster than the Concorde.
The first was retired long ago, before the Concorde.
The second is a dream which hasn't even flown yet.
So once again, you are shown to be spouting pure garbage.
Going to the rest of the list and using large aircraft you are down at ~1100 km/hr as the MAXIMUM speed.
That is different to the cruising speed.
For example, the Airbus A380 is rated to a maximum speed of Mach 0.96.
That is the maximum speed it can tolerate and still be deemed safe.
But it's cruising speed is Mach 0.85
So the speed of the flight I provided is quite reasonable.
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https://airportcodes.io/en/blog/top-10-fastest-passenger-airplanes-in-the-world/
As jack pointed out, you failed.
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How to Say "Earth is Flat" Without Saying a Word? ^_^
(https://gwebangethome.files.wordpress.com/2022/01/polish_20220109_135929447.jpg?w=1024)
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https://airportcodes.io/en/blog/top-10-fastest-passenger-airplanes-in-the-world/
As jack pointed out, you failed.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRD0b_Jsk26b2Ig8B-2oBV7p8HYEdTp8WnvWQ&usqp=CAU)
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How to Say "Earth is Flat" Without Saying a Word?
Huff some glue?
Now care to address the flight I provided which has the plane go over 900 km/hr in the RE model, and which would require an insane speed for your nonsense?
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Phew doesn't get affected by multi interpretations. Let's go to reality:
Crossing the Pacific ocean by ship on northern hemiplane around June.
Suppose you are at rest, the sun will go rightwards, but if you are sailing, and you see the sun position is seen relatively steady, as shown at 4:55 that means you are going RIGHTWARDS.
The earth is obviously PHEW 8)
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Phew doesn't get affected by multi interpretations
Yes, it is quite simple to interpret and see it is pure BS.
Again, address the flight.
Stop deflecting.
Let's go to reality:
So the RE, rather than your nonsense?
Suppose you are at rest, the sun will go rightwards
No, the apparent direction of the sun will depend on where you are, and what time of year it is.
All your video shows is the sun rising from behind the horizon, showing once again that the FE is pure nonsense.
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The path is curved going rightwards.
Okay, please dump your maps~
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJBMbaLagAQ1_Pg?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Northern midnight sun is just a reflection of the actual sun on the dome. 👌
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Northern midnight sun is just a reflection of the actual sun on the dome. 👌
What dome?
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Northern midnight sun is just a reflection of the actual sun on the dome. 👌
What dome?
The 2nd dome. Two suns phenomenon is also caused by the 2nd dome.
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Two suns?
Any evidence of a second Sun, or of either dome?
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Now two domes? Why not three?
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The 2nd dome. Two suns phenomenon is also caused by the 2nd dome.
Love this... you never know what he's going to come up with next.. Danang certainly provides proof of one thing; the human imagination really does have no limits.
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The path is curved going rightwards.
What path?
Again, can you address how the plan manages to get there in time?
It has an average speed of over 900 km/hr on the RE.
Stop running away from this simple issue that shows your claim is nonsense.
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Two suns?
Any evidence of a second Sun, or of either dome?
at noon sun places, there appears no more than 1 sun.
space jouneys were not real
Experiments of FE helium balloon as well as rocket gave proof that they exploded or stopped at certain height.
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Now two domes? Why not three?
why not?
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The 2nd dome. Two suns phenomenon is also caused by the 2nd dome.
Love this... you never know what he's going to come up with next.. Danang certainly provides proof of one thing; the human imagination really does have no limits.
phew might do imagination, but its theory is based on logic and data
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The path is curved going rightwards.
What path?
Again, can you address how the plan manages to get there in time?
It has an average speed of over 900 km/hr on the RE.
Stop running away from this simple issue that shows your claim is nonsense.
No cherry picking please.
On that sail journey, if you see the sun position looks constant in a long time, that means the ship goes curved to the right.
Check mate. Please go phew ~
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space jouneys were not real
Experiments of FE helium balloon as well as rocket gave proof that they exploded or stopped at certain height.
Pure BS.
Balloons are known to explode due to the reducing pressure.
No rocket has ever stopped at a certain height. That was a despin mechanism which stopped it spinning, but it kept going up.
phew might do imagination, but its theory is based on logic and data
You mean it is based upon throwing logic out the window and ignoring data that shows it is wrong, like the flight brought up previously which are yet to address.
Again, based upon the RE model, the planes speed was over 900 km/hr. Based upon your nonsense, the speed would be far too great.
No cherry picking please.
Follow your own advice, that seems to be all you can do.
You cherry pick a particular journey to pretend that it is too long for the RE model, while ignoring plenty of other flights that show your model is pure garbage.
You then cherry pick a video that showed a few bits of a journey across an ocean as if it means anything.
On that sail journey, if you see the sun position looks constant in a long time, that means the ship goes curved to the right.
Stop just asserting nonsense, try actually explaining it.
And at no point in the video did the sun's position look constant.
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How to say "Earth is Phew" without saying anything?
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQs6PhUBMGhkXwISwZcBP28qOF5NG4bB3JtuQ&usqp=CAU)
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Okay, case closed. Please go phew 👌
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Okay, case closed. Please go away phew nonsense👌
There I fixed it for you
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How to say "Earth is Phew" without saying anything?
So just more baseless garbage?
If you wanted to say "Earth is phew" you need to address the flight and how it could possibly work in your fantasy.
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Experiments of FE helium balloon as well as rocket gave proof that they exploded or stopped at certain height.
This has never happened.
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Look at how large the Bering straight is in you model comapred to reality.
That alone disproves it.
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If you cross the Bering straight, you'll find out it's the Bering ocean.
That's why your government prohibit you to cross it.
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Polaris, Everyone in the norther hemsipher can see polaris, with it's elevation being dependent on their latitude.
This is impossible in your model.
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Stop playing small with mere encircling the Antarctica continent.
I DARE YOU TO TRY ENCIRCLING THE ARCTIC!!!
One thing for sure, PHEW is *not* 👉 Controlled Opposition 😅 ;D ;D ;D
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Polaris, Everyone in the norther hemsipher can see polaris, with it's elevation being dependent on their latitude.
This is impossible in your model.
If you haven't confirmed the domes, it's hard to convince you.
Northern stars and sun are just reflection.
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Science is not so simple. Going to school is not a learning activity. It's indoctrination.
Go to YouTube University, or Twitter University 👇
https://twitter.com/goldeneagle2707/status/1483351285621719044?t=va3R5UUM8xsYI-td_w0ICw&s=19
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Again, care to address the flight I provided, which requires the plane to travel at over 900 km/hr on the RE model?
That's why your government prohibit you to cross it.
Citation needed.
I DARE YOU TO TRY ENCIRCLING THE ARCTIC!!!
The problem is that land gets in the way.
Northern stars and sun are just reflection.
Reflections of what?
We know it can't be the stars in the south as they are completely different.
We also know the sun can't be a reflection as if it was there should be plenty of times where 2 suns are visible.
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Stop playing small with mere encircling the Antarctica continent.
I DARE YOU TO TRY ENCIRCLING THE ARCTIC!!!
One thing for sure, PHEW is *not* 👉 Controlled Opposition 😅 ;D ;D ;D
You might want to contact Russia & China to tell them to stop working on the Arctic Silk Road:
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I wish I could provide links of my old posts.
Repeating things having been posted repeatedly is not phew~
In short, phew was so powerful. ✌️
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Polaris, Everyone in the norther hemsipher can see polaris, with it's elevation being dependent on their latitude.
This is impossible in your model.
If you haven't confirmed the domes, it's hard to convince you.
Northern stars and sun are just reflection.
Reflections of *what* exactly?
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If you cross the Bering straight, you'll find out it's the Bering ocean.
That's why your government prohibit you to cross it.
This is absolutely false.
Additionally, there are time zones, there isn't massive difference between sunset and sunrise times betweent each side of the bering straight.
And there are ships that travel across, ships have travelled across for hundreds of years.
Then there is this flight.
https://www.google.com/travel/flights/booking?tfs=CBwQAhpGagwIAxIIL20vMDUycDcSCjIwMjItMDEtMjJyBwgBEgNMSFIiHwoDWVVMEgoyMDIyLTAxLTIyGgNMSFIqAkFDMgM4NjQoAXABggELCP___________wFAAUgBmAEC&tfu=CmxDalJJTUdkWU9HVlVabkIyZDBsQlFqUTJTVUZDUnkwdExTMHRMUzB0TFMxMGFIRnhPVUZCUVVGQlIwaHZla2hKU3psVU1FRkJFZ1ZCUXpnMk5Cb0tDSlFiRUFBYUEwaExSRGdjY01iY0FnPT0SBggBEAAYAA&hl=en&gl=hk&client=safari&curr=HKD
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I wish I could provide links of my old posts.
Repeating things having been posted repeatedly is not phew
You mean links so we can then see the refutations of your nonsense just below it?
Again, the flight I provided travels at a speed of over 900 km/hr on the RE model. It would require an insane speed in your fantasy.
Remember this post here:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=89629.msg2342935#msg2342935
Which you are yet to address.
(And no, you just dismissing the globe is not addressing it).
Are you going to address it?
If not, will you address AC864 which blademan provided? e.g:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA864/history/20220118/0055Z/CYUL/EGLL
Where it has a total TRAVEL time of 6 hr, 33 minutes, which includes 44 minutes of taxi time for a total FLIGHT time of 5 hours and 11 minutes.
For a distance of 5221 km (I'm being nice and using the direct distance instead of the actual distance based upon its flight path), that gives a speed of 1007 km/hr.
Again, the speed needed for your fantasy is insane.
And we can also note that they take off and go towards the north (not directly north, but more north than south) and then arrive from the north.
None of it makes sense in your fantasy, but it makes perfect sense for the RE.