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Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 28, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
When I look up a conspiracy, I expect a damn good "theory" (excuse) as to why they're correct, and yet, you guys make the ice wall. What is that? Also, why is everything a conspiracy? If the Earth really was flat, why would people hide that information? What could they POSSIBLY GAIN?!?!?!?!?!?! Also, if the Earth is flat, wouldn't that make it 2D? Um flat, of course meaning no depth. I know what your respons to that will be though, it's a cube, but flat's easier to say, yeah, I'm sure.

1 more thing before I listen to some sorry "theories" (excuses), how can you tell people that they can't use pictures from space as proof, just because they haven't been there? So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on January 28, 2007, 01:04:56 PM
2D?  Good lord, people.
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on January 28, 2007, 05:01:01 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
 So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.


How do you know for sure?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Cowflop on January 28, 2007, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
 So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.


How do you know for sure?

Because an Asian took my job!
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 01:11:13 PM
I was impressed by all of your ability to prove me wrong :roll:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on January 29, 2007, 01:15:14 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I was impressed by all of your ability to prove me wrong :roll:


I was impressed by your ability to read the FAQ. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1324)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 01:38:44 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I was impressed by all of your ability to prove me wrong :roll:


I was impressed by your ability to read the FAQ. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1324)


You still didn't show your opinion, intelligently. I'm waiting.....
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: The3dgeLoop on January 29, 2007, 01:42:51 PM
the earth is cylindrical. we live on the top. the ice wall runs around the edge. it is not 2d.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: CharlesJohnson on January 29, 2007, 01:43:30 PM
:lol:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: The3dgeLoop on January 29, 2007, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: "CharlesJohnson"
:lol:
:D
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 01:57:57 PM
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
the earth is cylindrical. we live on the top. the ice wall runs around the edge. it is not 2d.


So, why isn't this site called the Cylindrical Earth Society? Also, that's only 1 of many questions that you've answered, poorly.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: MIATheU21 on January 29, 2007, 02:13:43 PM
Hahahahahaha, what a joke.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 02:16:58 PM
Dang, you guys take a REAL long time to PM each other so that your story stays in line. What you all fail to realize is that I'm willing to listent to your best attemtps and take them intelligently.........as possible, but you guys are taking WAY too long for me to do this. All of your proof really makes NO sense. That guy's trip to the "Ice Wall", if he knew someone on the inside at NASA, why was a legitimate photo of the person unavailable, not to mention all my points stated above, you guys are pathetic, hurry up with the "theories" (excuses).
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Ozone07 on January 29, 2007, 02:36:07 PM
LSU the ice wall is what the Titanic ran into and sunk to the bottom of the Atlantic.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: MIATheU21 on January 29, 2007, 02:37:23 PM
Do any of you know how the Ice wall was formed? I would like to know.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Ozone07 on January 29, 2007, 02:38:55 PM
yes, please do explain.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 02:39:34 PM
Man you guys take long to PM your fake "theories". :lol:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Ozone07 on January 29, 2007, 02:47:08 PM
I swear this ice wall theory is bogus. People fly in planes in all different directions of the world. So you think that they would eventually run in or across that so called "wall."  There would be a picture some where. Until you can show us this "ice wall" don't give us that crazy shit theory.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: "Ozone07"
I swear this ice wall theory is bogus. People fly in planes in all different directions of the world. So you think that they would eventually run in or across that so called "wall."  There would be a picture some where. Until you can show us this "ice wall" don't give us that crazy shit theory.


That's the amazing thing, that's part of the conspiracy, you would run into it all the time, but they fly in circles. The window seats are occupied by trained proffesionals, and they know when it's ok to let someone look out the window, otherwise they make sure noone looks because sometimes they fly near the ice wall :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Ozone07 on January 29, 2007, 02:53:57 PM
That is just plain ignorant. STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on January 29, 2007, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I was impressed by all of your ability to prove me wrong :roll:


I was impressed by your ability to read the FAQ. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1324)


You still didn't show your opinion, intelligently. I'm waiting.....


Had you actually clicked the link and read the information presented, you would have realised that I actually had answered your cliched question.  But, since you feel so important, I'm actually going to take the time to publicly chastise you.  mm'kay?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on January 29, 2007, 04:22:47 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
When I look up a conspiracy, I expect a damn good "theory" (excuse) as to why they're correct, and yet, you guys make the ice wall. What is that?

Antarctica = ice wall.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Also, why is everything a conspiracy?

It's not.  The only part about the conspiracy involves this: the world is flat (via personal observation), and the government is saying that it is spherical.  So, obviously, the government is lying.  Duh.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
If the Earth really was flat, why would people hide that information?

Have you ever thought something was right and then been proven wrong?  Have you always conceded your point, therefore admitting to your mistake, and making yourself appear to be of less intelligence than the previous notion?

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
What could they POSSIBLY GAIN?!?!?!?!?!?! Also, if the Earth is flat, wouldn't that make it 2D?

Um, no, that'd mean that the surface of the Earth would be a plane, as opposed to a curved surface of a sphere.  Take some geometry.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Um flat, of course meaning no depth.

We're using the word, so you have to conform to our definition.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
1 more thing before I listen to some sorry "theories" (excuses), how can you tell people that they can't use pictures from space as proof, just because they haven't been there? So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.

Pictures aren't proof, or else you'd have to believe in:
UFO's -
(http://home.uchicago.edu/~ryancook/images/UFOMX61A.JPG)
Jackalopes -
(http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/jackaloperider.jpg)
Chupacabras -
(http://z.about.com/d/paranormal/1/0/3/T/chupacabras_body.jpg)
Vampires -
(http://www.lumiere.org/films/images/vampires-photo2.jpg)
Werewolves -
(http://www.ultimatejudgment.com/photo/p/215.jpg)
etc.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on January 29, 2007, 04:45:40 PM
Pictures can be used as proof. There's ways to tell if they are fake or not. It's actually some sort of science or some shit. I never really looked into it.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I was impressed by all of your ability to prove me wrong :roll:


I was impressed by your ability to read the FAQ. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1324)


You still didn't show your opinion, intelligently. I'm waiting.....


Had you actually clicked the link and read the information presented, you would have realised that I actually had answered your cliched question.  But, since you feel so important, I'm actually going to take the time to publicly chastise you.  mm'kay?


Oh, mm'kay Mr.Mackey.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Masterchef on January 29, 2007, 04:56:47 PM
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Pictures can be used as proof. There's ways to tell if they are fake or not. It's actually some sort of science or some shit. I never really looked into it.

But with modern image editing software (which the Government developed decades ago, and only recently released to the public), it gets a lot harder for them to tell which pictures are fake.
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 29, 2007, 05:14:18 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

Antarctica = ice wall.


Actually there, big guy, Antarctica doesn't go all the way around the world.

Quote from: "BOG"

It's not.  The only part about the conspiracy involves this: the world is flat (via personal observation), and the government is saying that it is flat.  So, obviously, the government is lying.  Duh.


Ok, so according to you, you think that the earth is flat, and the government is saying it is flat, so they're lying, meaning you're lying, you lost me on that one.

Quote from: "BOG"
Have you ever thought something was right and then been proven wrong?  Have you always conceded your point, therefore admitting to your mistake, and making yourself appear to be of less intelligence than the previous notion?


Haha, so you think that the reason EVERYONE beleives that the earth is a sphere, is because all of the governments of the world hide this "valuable" information because they are .............EMBARRASSED!!! That's a sad excuse right there. The government learns from previous mistakes all the time, that's why we take history class, that's why we have ammendmants. The 1st 10 were made soley because the founding fathers were wrong in finishing the constitution, so they added those to change it. In fact our constitution that we have today, USA if you have no idea what I'm talking about, wasn't even the 1st. We had some Articles of Confederation, but it sucked, so they changed it and moved on. They weren't "too embarrassed" to admit it, that's pathetic, haha.

Quote from: "BOG"
Um, no, that'd mean that the surface of the Earth would be a plane, as opposed to a curved surface of a sphere.  Take some geometry.


No, flat means 2D, only 2 dimensions. A square is flat, a circle is flat, and (according to you) the earth is flat.

Quote from: "BOG"
We're using the word, so you have to conform to our definition.


Well, you're using my language of choice, so confine to what the words themselves mean, and don't make up definitions for yourself.

Quote from: "BOG"
Pictures aren't proof, or else you'd have to believe in:
UFO's -
(http://home.uchicago.edu/~ryancook/images/UFOMX61A.JPG)


Do you know what UFO means? I'll tell you, unidentified flying object, so, try and follow along, if you look up in the sky and see something, whatever it is, and don't know what it is, then it's unidentified, obviously flying, if you're looking straight up at it and it's not touching the ground, and it's an object because well, that's a very very vague word. So, UFO's do exist, Einstein.

Quote from: "BOG"
Jackalopes -(http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/jackaloperider.jpg)



How stupid are you?!?!?!?! That thing is obviously stuffed!!!! It's fake!!! Doesn't take a FE'er to figure that out!!!


Quote from: "BOG"
Chupacabras -
(http://z.about.com/d/paranormal/1/0/3/T/chupacabras_body.jpg)


That shows nothing!!! That (could be) a doll someone made and put on a bed sheet, and then took up close pics of it, then said it was 5 feet!!!

Quote from: "BOG"
Vampires -
(http://www.lumiere.org/films/images/vampires-photo2.jpg)
Werewolves -
(http://www.ultimatejudgment.com/photo/p/215.jpg)
etc.


These 2 are pretty obvious, it's called masks and makeup artists, don't be stupid.

Well, I addressed all your points, who's next? 8-)
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on January 29, 2007, 06:19:17 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

Antarctica = ice wall.


Actually there, big guy, Antarctica doesn't go all the way around the world.

Actually, closed-mindedly lazy threat to intelligence, it does:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dogplatter/flatmap.jpg)

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"

It's not.  The only part about the conspiracy involves this: the world is flat (via personal observation), and the government is saying that it is spherical.  So, obviously, the government is lying.  Duh.


Ok, so according to you, you think that the earth is flat, and the government is saying it is flat, so they're lying, meaning you're lying, you lost me on that one.

Pardon the grammatical error.  I thought one thing and obviously wrote another.  Here, from the FAQ you supposedly read carefully and understood:
Quote from: "The Big Bad FAQ"
Q: "If you're not sure about the motive, why do you say there is a conspiracy?"

A: Well it's quite simple really; if the earth is in fact flat, then the governments must be lying when they say it isn't.


Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Have you ever thought something was right and then been proven wrong?  Have you always conceded your point, therefore admitting to your mistake, and making yourself appear to be of less intelligence than the previous notion?


Haha, so you think that the reason EVERYONE beleives that the earth is a sphere, is because all of the governments of the world hide this "valuable" information because they are .............EMBARRASSED!!! That's a sad excuse right there. The government learns from previous mistakes all the time, that's why we take history class, that's why we have ammendmants. The 1st 10 were made soley because the founding fathers were wrong in finishing the constitution, so they added those to change it. In fact our constitution that we have today, USA if you have no idea what I'm talking about, wasn't even the 1st. We had some Articles of Confederation, but it sucked, so they changed it and moved on. They weren't "too embarrassed" to admit it, that's pathetic, haha.

Perhaps you should read this, as reading is obviously one of your best qualities. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=categorical+conclusive+conspiracy+compendium&start=0)

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Um, no, that'd mean that the surface of the Earth would be a plane, as opposed to a curved surface of a sphere.  Take some geometry.


No, flat means 2D, only 2 dimensions. A square is flat, a circle is flat, and (according to you) the earth is flat.

:roll:
Quote from: "The definition of "flat""
flat (fl?t)
adj., flat·ter, flat·test.
Having a horizontal surface without a slope, tilt, or curvature.
Having a smooth, even, level surface: a skirt sewed with fine flat seams.
Having a relatively broad surface in relation to thickness or depth: a flat board. See synonyms at level.
Stretched out or lying at full length along the ground; prone.

ZOMG it says nothing about being two-dimensional!  Imagine that!

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
We're using the word, so you have to conform to our definition.


Well, you're using my language of choice, so confine to what the words themselves mean, and don't make up definitions for yourself.

Ok.  I hope you'll do the same (HINT: the definition is above.  Correct yourself accordingly).

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Pictures aren't proof, or else you'd have to believe in:
UFO's -
(http://home.uchicago.edu/~ryancook/images/UFOMX61A.JPG)


Do you know what UFO means? I'll tell you, unidentified flying object, so, try and follow along, if you look up in the sky and see something, whatever it is, and don't know what it is, then it's unidentified, obviously flying, if you're looking straight up at it and it's not touching the ground, and it's an object because well, that's a very very vague word. So, UFO's do exist, Einstein.

Don't be intentionally obtuse; you knew that I meant "UFOs" in the sense that they were extraterrestrial.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Jackalopes -(http://www.wyomingtalesandtrails.com/jackaloperider.jpg)


How stupid are you?!?!?!?! That thing is obviously stuffed!!!! It's fake!!! Doesn't take a FE'er to figure that out!!!

How stupid are you?  I don't think you're qualified enough to be questioning my intelligence, for you failed to notice the point behind that picture.  My point was that pictures can be faked, AND that just because you have a picture of something doesn't mean it exists.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Chupacabras -
(http://z.about.com/d/paranormal/1/0/3/T/chupacabras_body.jpg)


That shows nothing!!! That (could be) a doll someone made and put on a bed sheet, and then took up close pics of it, then said it was 5 feet!!!

1)  It indirectly shows your frustration.
2)  See above.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Vampires -
(http://www.lumiere.org/films/images/vampires-photo2.jpg)
Werewolves -
(http://www.ultimatejudgment.com/photo/p/215.jpg)
etc.


These 2 are pretty obvious, it's called masks and makeup artists, don't be stupid.

And yet, any pictures that are shown to you that could easily be made with a globe and a dark room pass the "Wait a minute ... " test?  How on Flat Earth does that make any sense?  Your logic doesn't make sense.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Well, I addressed all your points, who's next? 8-)

No you didn't, so I guess I am again.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: The3dgeLoop on January 29, 2007, 10:12:32 PM
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: levier on January 30, 2007, 01:56:53 AM
yeah...should've took the photo from outer space so we can see the cylinder...i suggest you read up on the topic roald amundsen, sir robert f. scott, they were there long before "the government" had any real global power...and i am talking about U S and A

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SPSM.05.jpg

also, please look on google maps and tell me if it's really there....

aaaa....and on another topic there was a whole discussion that google takes its images from aircraft and satelites, can i dismiss that it consists solely of aerial photos...one cannot set squares on spheres, for they will not fit (don't believe me, take a piece of paper and a basketball and try to stick them together, the paper won't be the same shape as the basketball unless you crease it)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Masterchef on January 30, 2007, 05:14:07 AM
Quote from: "levier"
aaaa....and on another topic there was a whole discussion that google takes its images from aircraft and satelites, can i dismiss that it consists solely of aerial photos...one cannot set squares on spheres, for they will not fit (don't believe me, take a piece of paper and a basketball and try to stick them together, the paper won't be the same shape as the basketball unless you crease it)

Then tell me, how can I fit a square texture on a sphere in 3D Studio Max?

And you do realize that Google Earth and Google Maps are both made up of rectangular images, right?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: levier on January 30, 2007, 03:38:51 PM
well, u creased it or stretched it, and btw, 3dsmax is virtual reality...virtual stands for "let's do whatever we can't do normally"
and you do realize that u are having a bit of a problem?
u view a rectangle shape, that does not make the image in it a rectangle, if u still don't get it, u have a frame that is rectangular and an image that is not necesarilly rectangular. try zooming out completely if that's a rectangle you see (earth i mean, the round beautiful one) then i'll believe in god.
oh yeah, and excuse me grand masterchief...u do not have proof of any conspiracy, and don't tell me i'm stupid cause i don't share your belief over the government conspiracy, and i like the way fe'ers think...you dismiss every proof that is brought, and this whole forum...consisting of 8000 people (let's assume that everyone is fe)...is what to the world? 8000 to 6 billion, AND DON'T TELL ME THAT THE GOVERNMENT...bla bla...trust me, the government is crap, you americans or let's call you westerners... have the belief that there actually is someone controlling everything in the world, cut the bullshit, there is no supreme power, man-made or god, u.s.a does not control the world and there is no conspiracy...so dealing that you and a bunch of people think that it's a conspiracy and most of the countries in the world believe that the earth is round, i think that sums up to deal with your problem...you are just delussional people who are accidentally more developed than normal delussional people, so you said the earth is flat instead of UFO's, alien, anal alien probing, kennedy assasinations and alternate mind-blowing universes that all submit to the mighty xenu, ruler of scientology. does that answer your questions to why the earth is round?
as every normal geographer can tell you that the earth is round, and what he says will fit the actual description of maps, and the maps, one can assume that the story THAT IS COMPLETE AND BELIEVABLE is true.
seeing that there are syncopes, holes and differences in your theories
and seeing that in the time of the ancient greeks the earth was believed flat, and that in the time of galileo galilei the earth was still flat, in 1600 years you were not able to produce a CREDIBLE theory of the flatness of the world, i think one by now would assume the failure of proving his wit and instead proving his wrongs. oh and by chance i saw on a topic that someone said that the forum is mostly formed of non-americans i must help him with the fact that at my time 1.15 PM (GMT +2) there were two persons on the entire forum...and if still not knowin what i'm talking about, it was 7 am in eastern america,6 am in central america and 5 am in western america...anyway hours that a normal human being is not on a forum...oh yeah, eleven am for GMT and daylight in the sane world.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on January 30, 2007, 03:40:16 PM
Coherent grammar, plz.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: icthyosis on January 30, 2007, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: "levier"
well, u creased it or stretched it, and btw, 3dsmax is virtual reality...virtual stands for "let's do whatever we can't do normally"
and you do realize that u are having a bit of a problem?
u view a rectangle shape, that does not make the image in it a rectangle, if u still don't get it, u have a frame that is rectangular and an image that is not necesarilly rectangular. try zooming out completely if that's a rectangle you see (earth i mean, the round beautiful one) then i'll believe in god.
oh yeah, and excuse me grand masterchief...u do not have proof of any conspiracy, and don't tell me i'm stupid cause i don't share your belief over the government conspiracy, and i like the way fe'ers think...you dismiss every proof that is brought, and this whole forum...consisting of 8000 people (let's assume that everyone is fe)...is what to the world? 8000 to 6 billion, AND DON'T TELL ME THAT THE GOVERNMENT...bla bla...trust me, the government is crap, you americans or let's call you westerners... have the belief that there actually is someone controlling everything in the world, cut the bullshit, there is no supreme power, man-made or god, u.s.a does not control the world and there is no conspiracy...so dealing that you and a bunch of people think that it's a conspiracy and most of the countries in the world believe that the earth is round, i think that sums up to deal with your problem...you are just delussional people who are accidentally more developed than normal delussional people, so you said the earth is flat instead of UFO's, alien, anal alien probing, kennedy assasinations and alternate mind-blowing universes that all submit to the mighty xenu, ruler of scientology. does that answer your questions to why the earth is round?
as every normal geographer can tell you that the earth is round, and what he says will fit the actual description of maps, and the maps, one can assume that the story THAT IS COMPLETE AND BELIEVABLE is true.
seeing that there are syncopes, holes and differences in your theories
and seeing that in the time of the ancient greeks the earth was believed flat, and that in the time of galileo galilei the earth was still flat, in 1600 years you were not able to produce a CREDIBLE theory of the flatness of the world, i think one by now would assume the failure of proving his wit and instead proving his wrongs. oh and by chance i saw on a topic that someone said that the forum is mostly formed of non-americans i must help him with the fact that at my time 1.15 PM (GMT +2) there were two persons on the entire forum...and if still not knowin what i'm talking about, it was 7 am in eastern america,6 am in central america and 5 am in western america...anyway hours that a normal human being is not on a forum...oh yeah, eleven am for GMT and daylight in the sane world.


werd u lern yur english mistr?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on January 30, 2007, 04:22:40 PM
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: icthyosis on January 30, 2007, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


THEY HAVE CAMOFLAUGE






 DER
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 02, 2007, 08:12:34 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

Actually, closed-mindedly lazy threat to intelligence, it does:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dogplatter/flatmap.jpg)


According to you, pictures don't count, remember?

Quote from: "DFM"

Pardon the grammatical error.  I thought one thing and obviously wrote another.  Here, from the FAQ you supposedly read carefully and understood:
Quote from: "The Big Bad FAQ"
Q: "If you're not sure about the motive, why do you say there is a conspiracy?"

A: Well it's quite simple really; if the earth is in fact flat, then the governments must be lying when they say it isn't.


You know, it's amazing, what you wrote earlier made more sense. According to that amazing logic, I will make my own theory: the entire middle of the earth is filled with twinkies!! It's not hot gas, or magma like the silly government will tell you. How do I believe this, well if I'm right, then obviously they're wrong, makes sense, you should join my conspiracy website, if you joined this one off of that logic!!

Quote from: "DFM"

Perhaps you should read this, as reading is obviously one of your best qualities. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=categorical+conclusive+conspiracy+compendium&start=0)


Or, sense you're so much smarter, why don't you tell me what it says, because I can't tell :roll:

Quote from: "DFM"
:roll:
Quote from: "The definition of "flat""
flat (fl?t)
adj., flat·ter, flat·test.
Having a horizontal surface without a slope, tilt, or curvature.
Having a smooth, even, level surface: a skirt sewed with fine flat seams.
Having a relatively broad surface in relation to thickness or depth: a flat board. See synonyms at level.
Stretched out or lying at full length along the ground; prone.

ZOMG it says nothing about being two-dimensional!  Imagine that!


Hahaha, do you know anything?!?! Horizontal, with no slope, THAT MEANS FLAT!!! All it is, is they dragged the definition out, nothing more!!

Quote from: "DFM"
Ok.  I hope you'll do the same (HINT: the definition is above.  Correct yourself accordingly).


Try again.

Quote from: "DFM"
Don't be intentionally obtuse; you knew that I meant "UFOs" in the sense that they were extraterrestrial.


Um, well then say what you mean. Once again, you're using my language, English, so use it properly, UFO- Unidentified Flying Object.

Quote from: "DFM"

How stupid are you?  I don't think you're qualified enough to be questioning my intelligence, for you failed to notice the point behind that picture.  My point was that pictures can be faked, AND that just because you have a picture of something doesn't mean it exists.


Well, MY point was that if it's fake, it's pretty obvious, unless your IQ is below average, AKA a moron.

Quote from: "DFM"
1)  It indirectly shows your frustration.
2)  See above.


This directly shows your inability to respond to my points correctly at all.

Quote from: "DFM"
And yet, any pictures that are shown to you that could easily be made with a globe and a dark room pass the "Wait a minute ... " test?  How on Flat Earth does that make any sense?  Your logic doesn't make sense.


Yeah, it's because I've seen a globe before. You know it's funny about globes, if the "big bad conspirital government" were to "make up" the fact that the world was round, then why does it have a tilt to it? You know, why wouldn't they make it easier, and say that it's a perfect sphere, not circle, which is 2D and flat, with no tilt?

Quote from: "DFM"

No you didn't, so I guess I am again.


There's no point in making a bad joke, you could've just not responded to the last part :idea:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 02, 2007, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: "icthyosis"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


THEY HAVE CAMOFLAUGE






 DER


Haha, no lie that was funny, however at the same time it goes directly against the FE'ers. Not only was someone able to get a clear picture of the ice wall when it's "hidden by government troops", but then there's also no troops, which are supposedly all over the ice wall so no one......... well you guys know this crap better than me 8-)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Flatnesseverywhere on February 03, 2007, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "icthyosis"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


THEY HAVE CAMOFLAUGE






 DER


Haha, no lie that was funny, however at the same time it goes directly against the FE'ers. Not only was someone able to get a clear picture of the ice wall when it's "hidden by government troops", but then there's also no troops, which are supposedly all over the ice wall so no one......... well you guys know this crap better than me 8-)


They got a picture off because it was an Ice Wall guard who's in rebellion, and wants the truth to get out. We could've easily taken a picture, as long as we're in uniform, hope this helped.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Beeper on February 03, 2007, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


somewhere out of shot. there isnt a soldier every 5 feet. there just arnt enough soldiers in the world.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 03, 2007, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: "Beeper"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


somewhere out of shot. there isnt a soldier every 5 feet. there just arnt enough soldiers in the world.


Well, for starters, to prove your lack of IQ, you misspelled aren't, but what do I know, it's probably the latest in FE fads.


How would you know? If it's so damn secret, then you probably haven't been there, if you have show your pictures, oh wait, there's fucking soldiers everywhere, how in the hell would you sneak in a camera, when, as the other guy said about his trip to the Ice Wall, there's turrets that shoot you on site, without authorization.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Ilithi on February 03, 2007, 12:10:38 PM
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Actually, that's the Antarctic Peninsula Glacier, and also happens to be the very first pic listed on wikipedia's article on Antarctica, which you undoubtedly used to find that pic. Gee, I guess those government guys really slipped up when they let that picture on the web, didn't they?  :roll:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 03, 2007, 12:20:12 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Beeper"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


somewhere out of shot. there isnt a soldier every 5 feet. there just arnt enough soldiers in the world.


Well, for starters, to prove your lack of IQ, you misspelled aren't, but what do I know, it's probably the latest in FE fads.

You are chastising an RE'er genius.

By the way, there is a thread already done where the numbers were worked out, and it turns out the number of soldiers needed whould be just a few hundred.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 03, 2007, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: "Ilithi"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Actually, that's the Antarctic Peninsula Glacier, and also happens to be the very first pic listed on wikipedia's article on Antarctica, which you undoubtedly used to find that pic. Gee, I guess those government guys really slipped up when they let that picture on the web, didn't they?  :roll:


You're hurting their feelings, chill out :roll:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 03, 2007, 12:23:02 PM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Beeper"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


somewhere out of shot. there isnt a soldier every 5 feet. there just arnt enough soldiers in the world.


Well, for starters, to prove your lack of IQ, you misspelled aren't, but what do I know, it's probably the latest in FE fads.

You are chastising an RE'er genius.

By the way, there is a thread already done where the numbers were worked out, and it turns out the number of soldiers needed whould be just a few hundred.


But it goes all the way around the world, also what kind of formula do you use to figure out how many troops you need? You have no idea how many troops they would want, or may actually need, don't act like you do.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 03, 2007, 12:30:42 PM
It's simple reasoning, actually.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 03, 2007, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
It's simple reasoning, actually.


And............................................that reasoning is.................I'm waiting.....
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Minimalist on February 03, 2007, 12:59:41 PM
Quote
Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?"

A: It's a conspiracy


Why is it a conspiracy?

Quote
Q: "How are the world governments organized enough to carry out this conspiracy?"

A: They only appear to be disorganized to make the conspiracy seem implausible.


So the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Israel, Sri Lanka, Chechnya etc. are just for show? Shouldn't International Unity = World Peace? No more arms races!! [edit] Please don't tell me that the wars are just for show I've got friends going to Iraq and friends already there in Afghanistan...

Quote
Q: Follow-up to previous question: How is it that the Earth does not have a gravitational pull, but stars and the moon do?

A: This argument is a non sequitur. You might as well ask, "How is it that snakes do not have legs, but dogs and cats do?" Snakes are not dogs or cats. The Earth is not a star or the moon. It doesn't follow that each must have exactly the properties of the others, and no more.


So what is the earth then?

Quote

Q: "Why has no-one taken a photo of the Earth that proves it is flat?"

A: The government prevents people from getting close enough to the Ice Wall to take a picture.


Has anyone tried?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 03, 2007, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
It's simple reasoning, actually.


And............................................that reasoning is.................I'm waiting.....

Look it up.  It was done by Erasmus.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 03, 2007, 01:14:04 PM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
It's simple reasoning, actually.


And............................................that reasoning is.................I'm waiting.....

Look it up.  It was done by Erasmus.


In a word, no. Not that I even know who that is, but you're real intelligent, so why don't you just tell me it yourself.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 03, 2007, 01:17:45 PM
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Mr. the Great, I am not impressed by your analysis.

Supposing for a moment that the government does guard it solely by posting men on it, these men are 150 in the air. From that hight they can see at least 15 miles in every relevant direction (this of course is calculating using the RE model... on a FE they might see farther). Thus you can cover the whole wall with just 78,225/30 = 2608 men.

You can decrease it further by giving them snowmobiles and having them ride between waypoints. If they can ride 10 mph and still keep an eye on things, then in one hour one sixth the previous number -- or 652 men -- can cover the wall in an hour. In fact, doing this gives them better coverage, since this way their 15-mile-radius field of vision doesn't have any holes.

Now take the terrain into account -- much of the Ice Wall is probably unapproachable except by air -- and you can trim down the numbers even further.

Strategically locate some helicopter pads (on the wall or floating) and you can have heavy armament on the scene in thirty minutes. Assuming an Apache helicopter can fly 150 mph, in that time they could fly 75 miles, so we would need to place pads every 150 miles, requiring 521 pads. Obviously, if you don't insist on thirty-minute response time, you can do with fewer. Don't forget that the watchmen can see 15 miles away from the wall, so thirty minutes should be more than enough to intercept any boat that tries to approach, snap pictures, and sail to safety.

Of course, this is all assuming that the only means our governments have of detecting trespassers is by looking with their eyes. We're neglecting radar and high-altitude spyplanes, probably with infrared cameras.

We're also neglecting intelligence. Anybody who wants to travel to the ice wall has to leave from someplace, and these someplaces can be watched by agents as well. There aren't too many good places to set on on such a journey from. Then, such expeditions would also have to be planned, and agents could get words about them before they even start. Once they've started, agents could monitor radio transmissions. If they can discover tresspassers a thousand miles away instead of only fifteen, then maybe they don't need so big a force as you say.

Basically, your objection is a straw man at best.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 03, 2007, 01:22:11 PM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "Erasmus"
Mr. the Great, I am not impressed by your analysis.

Supposing for a moment that the government does guard it solely by posting men on it, these men are 150 in the air. From that hight they can see at least 15 miles in every relevant direction (this of course is calculating using the RE model... on a FE they might see farther). Thus you can cover the whole wall with just 78,225/30 = 2608 men.

You can decrease it further by giving them snowmobiles and having them ride between waypoints. If they can ride 10 mph and still keep an eye on things, then in one hour one sixth the previous number -- or 652 men -- can cover the wall in an hour. In fact, doing this gives them better coverage, since this way their 15-mile-radius field of vision doesn't have any holes.

Now take the terrain into account -- much of the Ice Wall is probably unapproachable except by air -- and you can trim down the numbers even further.

Strategically locate some helicopter pads (on the wall or floating) and you can have heavy armament on the scene in thirty minutes. Assuming an Apache helicopter can fly 150 mph, in that time they could fly 75 miles, so we would need to place pads every 150 miles, requiring 521 pads. Obviously, if you don't insist on thirty-minute response time, you can do with fewer. Don't forget that the watchmen can see 15 miles away from the wall, so thirty minutes should be more than enough to intercept any boat that tries to approach, snap pictures, and sail to safety.

Of course, this is all assuming that the only means our governments have of detecting trespassers is by looking with their eyes. We're neglecting radar and high-altitude spyplanes, probably with infrared cameras.

We're also neglecting intelligence. Anybody who wants to travel to the ice wall has to leave from someplace, and these someplaces can be watched by agents as well. There aren't too many good places to set on on such a journey from. Then, such expeditions would also have to be planned, and agents could get words about them before they even start. Once they've started, agents could monitor radio transmissions. If they can discover tresspassers a thousand miles away instead of only fifteen, then maybe they don't need so big a force as you say.

Basically, your objection is a straw man at best.


Well, you're still being pretty ignorant, you have no idea if that's the way they'd do it. They might want a lot more than that just for the simple fact that you can never be too careful. What I asked you was a trick question, there's no formula to figure out how many troops the government will send. Take Iraq for example, there's no way in hell you would know how many troops we'll send over there, and I'm not just saying that because people die in war, but there isn't, so take your bull crap formula and throw it out the window, because it proves nothing at all.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Minimalist on February 03, 2007, 01:24:01 PM
What I don't get is FE'ers just basing today's knowledge on Passed-Thesis. Everytime it's "read this, read that, look this up, he said she said..."

Not one single person of the FES apparently has tried to prove the RE theory as false. Saying they'd be shut down by the Government if tried anyways.


On another note - Does that mean the Earth is the Center of the Universe coz we seem to be sharing our Solar System with a couple of other Flat discs which the Sun is supposed to be flying around... So if the Sun is rotating above the Earth, why do the other Planets in our "solar system" also have day and night cycle (can be viewed on Home telescopes, observatories not needed)...
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 03, 2007, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"

Well, you're still being pretty ignorant, you have no idea if that's the way they'd do it.

Neither do you, so does that make us even?

I don't remember saying there was a formula for this.  I said it was reasoned out.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 03, 2007, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"

Well, you're still being pretty ignorant, you have no idea if that's the way they'd do it.

Neither do you, so does that make us even?

I don't remember saying there was a formula for this.  I said it was reasoned out.


There you go again, there's no possible way to say it's reasoned out, because  there's no possible way to predict how many troops a government would send to any particular spot, pay attention.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 03, 2007, 02:52:14 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"

There you go again, there's no possible way to say it's reasoned out, because  there's no possible way to predict how many troops a government would send to any particular spot, pay attention.

It's an estimation of the troops needed.  An estimation based on reasoning.   It does not tell you how many are there.
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 03, 2007, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

Actually, closed-mindedly lazy threat to intelligence, it does:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dogplatter/flatmap.jpg)


According to you, pictures don't count, remember?


Too bad it's an image that isn't being used as evidence.  Photographic evidence can't be used; images that are used to convey ideas can be used.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"

Pardon the grammatical error.  I thought one thing and obviously wrote another.  Here, from the FAQ you supposedly read carefully and understood:
Quote from: "The Big Bad FAQ"
Q: "If you're not sure about the motive, why do you say there is a conspiracy?"

A: Well it's quite simple really; if the earth is in fact flat, then the governments must be lying when they say it isn't.


You know, it's amazing, what you wrote earlier made more sense. According to that amazing logic, I will make my own theory: the entire middle of the earth is filled with twinkies!! It's not hot gas, or magma like the silly government will tell you. How do I believe this, well if I'm right, then obviously they're wrong, makes sense, you should join my conspiracy website, if you joined this one off of that logic!!


Because, that theory is illogical; The Earth is filled with twinkies, then volcanoes would spew twinkies everywhere, instead of hot, molten rock.  If this theory were true, then Pompeii wouldn't have been destroyed in the fashion that it did.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"

Perhaps you should read this, as reading is obviously one of your best qualities. (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=categorical+conclusive+conspiracy+compendium&start=0)


Or, sense you're so much smarter, why don't you tell me what it says, because I can't tell :roll:


Or you could read it.  Don't blame me for your laziness.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
:roll:
Quote from: "The definition of "flat""
flat (fl?t)
adj., flat·ter, flat·test.
Having a horizontal surface without a slope, tilt, or curvature.
Having a smooth, even, level surface: a skirt sewed with fine flat seams.
Having a relatively broad surface in relation to thickness or depth: a flat board. See synonyms at level.
Stretched out or lying at full length along the ground; prone.

ZOMG it says nothing about being two-dimensional!  Imagine that!


Hahaha, do you know anything?!?! Horizontal, with no slope, THAT MEANS FLAT!!! All it is, is they dragged the definition out, nothing more!!


Too bad it didn't say anything about the object being only of two dimensions.  You lose.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Don't be intentionally obtuse; you knew that I meant "UFOs" in the sense that they were extraterrestrial.


Um, well then say what you mean. Once again, you're using my language, English, so use it properly, UFO- Unidentified Flying Object.


Really?  Because, if you were to take a survey asking people what the first thing that came to mind when they hear "UFO", I'd bet about 60-80% would say "aliens" or something similar.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"

How stupid are you?  I don't think you're qualified enough to be questioning my intelligence, for you failed to notice the point behind that picture.  My point was that pictures can be faked, AND that just because you have a picture of something doesn't mean it exists.


Well, MY point was that if it's fake, it's pretty obvious, unless your IQ is below average, AKA a moron.


Well, MY point was that pictures can be faked, and you might not have the expertise to know when an image is faked and when it isn't.  Hence why no photographs can be used as evidence.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
1)  It indirectly shows your frustration.
2)  See above.


This directly shows your inability to respond to my points correctly at all.


This directly shows your reading ability, or lack thereof.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
And yet, any pictures that are shown to you that could easily be made with a globe and a dark room pass the "Wait a minute ... " test?  How on Flat Earth does that make any sense?  Your logic doesn't make sense.


Yeah, it's because I've seen a globe before. You know it's funny about globes, if the "big bad conspirital government" were to "make up" the fact that the world was round, then why does it have a tilt to it? You know, why wouldn't they make it easier, and say that it's a perfect sphere, not circle, which is 2D and flat, with no tilt?


How am I supposed to believe you when you say that you've seen it?  Am I going to have to "take your word for it"?

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"

No you didn't, so I guess I am again.


There's no point in making a bad joke, you could've just not responded to the last part :idea:

I don't believe I was being humorous.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 03, 2007, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: "Minimalist"
What I don't get is FE'ers just basing today's knowledge on Passed-Thesis. Everytime it's "read this, read that, look this up, he said she said..."


I believe most FE'ers refer people to different sources because they were asked to provide a source, or are just plain sick of answering these same questions a few times a week because people join up and dont bother searching to see if someone was as much of a genius as them to have suggested the idea before...
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: SPrinkZ on February 03, 2007, 10:56:27 PM
This guy is a complete idiot. How obtuse can he get, seriously?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 04, 2007, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"

There you go again, there's no possible way to say it's reasoned out, because  there's no possible way to predict how many troops a government would send to any particular spot, pay attention.

It's an estimation of the troops needed.  An estimation based on reasoning.   It does not tell you how many are there.


Estimations can be off by a whole lot, that one being proof, you think you know how many troops they'd need, haha, that's pathetic.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Beeper on February 04, 2007, 11:00:41 AM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Beeper"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
Here's a piece of the Ice Wall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Austral-Ice.jpg


Where's the soldiers?


somewhere out of shot. there isnt a soldier every 5 feet. there just arnt enough soldiers in the world.


Well, for starters, to prove your lack of IQ, you misspelled aren't, but what do I know, it's probably the latest in FE fads.


How would you know? If it's so damn secret, then you probably haven't been there, if you have show your pictures, oh wait, there's fraking soldiers everywhere, how in the hell would you sneak in a camera, when, as the other guy said about his trip to the Ice Wall, there's turrets that shoot you on site, without authorization.


yes, because im sure that IQ and Typos are so strongly linked.
the very fact you fail to understand simple logic shows that your own ability to think means that it is hardly worth me talking to you.

if the best argument you can create involves a personal attack on someone, it generaly shows a lack of arguementive ability, and lowers an arguemnts impact. Try to read some work on Critical Thinking to understand a basic argument structure.

sorry to lower myself to your level, but i hope it gives the best chance of you understanding me. anyway... what were we talking about?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 04, 2007, 11:04:23 AM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Too bad it's an image that isn't being used as evidence.  Photographic evidence can't be used; images that are used to convey ideas can be used.


Um, yeah it is. I said Antarctica doesn't go all the way around the world, you said yes it does, with that picture as proof.

Quote from: "DFM"
Because, that theory is illogical; The Earth is filled with twinkies, then volcanoes would spew twinkies everywhere, instead of hot, molten rock.  If this theory were true, then Pompeii wouldn't have been destroyed in the fashion that it did.


Your theory is illogical. It's all fake, it's a bunch of computers everywhere, showing you images of lava, that don't exist. That's part of the conspiracy, Pompeii doesn't exist, any "proof" you find is obviously made up by the government.

Quote from: "DFM"
Or you could read it.  Don't blame me for your laziness.


You know I won't read it when you could sum it up for me right here, because all FE'ers seem to be on the same page around here.

Quote from: "DFM"
Too bad it didn't say anything about the object being only of two dimensions.  You lose.


Haha, you're embarrassed just like the government is, as you claim. Horizontal, no tilt, that's flat buddy, it's ok to be wrong, you're already a FE'er.

Quote from: "DFM"
Really?  Because, if you were to take a survey asking people what the first thing that came to mind when they hear "UFO", I'd bet about 60-80% would say "aliens" or something similar.


Then 60-80% of people are mislead, or simply retarded. Just because you're one of the 60-80% of retards doesn't make it right.

Quote from: "DFM"
Well, MY point was that pictures can be faked, and you might not have the expertise to know when an image is faked and when it isn't.  Hence why no photographs can be used as evidence.


Um, I just showed you how to figure it out, for me it was common sense, it must be harder for you, but all of your pictures were pretty easily ID'd as fake.

Quote from: "DFM"
This directly shows your reading ability, or lack thereof.


This directly shows your ability not to respond to one of my comments.

Quote from: "DFM"
How am I supposed to believe you when you say that you've seen it?  Am I going to have to "take your word for it"?


Yes, I've been in 2nd grade, and saw a globe, I suppose you will have to take my word for it, as hard as it may be.

Quote from: "DFM"

I don't believe I was being humorous.


No, you weren't humorous, but you were trying to be.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 04, 2007, 11:05:52 AM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "Minimalist"
What I don't get is FE'ers just basing today's knowledge on Passed-Thesis. Everytime it's "read this, read that, look this up, he said she said..."


I believe most FE'ers refer people to different sources because they were asked to provide a source, or are just plain sick of answering these same questions a few times a week because people join up and dont bother searching to see if someone was as much of a genius as them to have suggested the idea before...


But then why not, copy and paste what they've said before, put it into Microsoft word, and then copy and paste it back on here, if it's so hard to talk about the same stuff?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 04, 2007, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: "Beeper"

yes, because im sure that IQ and Typos are so strongly linked.
the very fact you fail to understand simple logic shows that your own ability to think means that it is hardly worth me talking to you.

if the best argument you can create involves a personal attack on someone, it generaly shows a lack of arguementive ability, and lowers an arguemnts impact. Try to read some work on Critical Thinking to understand a basic argument structure.

sorry to lower myself to your level, but i hope it gives the best chance of you understanding me. anyway... what were we talking about?


Well, you basically get a smart award for winning a spelling bee.
Yeah, you kind of missed the entire point in that post, but you tried :D
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 04, 2007, 01:47:37 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Too bad it's an image that isn't being used as evidence.  Photographic evidence can't be used; images that are used to convey ideas can be used.


Um, yeah it is. I said Antarctica doesn't go all the way around the world, you said yes it does, with that picture as proof.


No, I used it to show you what I mean.  I didn't offer it as proof, fool.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "DFM"
Because, that theory is illogical; The Earth is filled with twinkies, then volcanoes would spew twinkies everywhere, instead of hot, molten rock.  If this theory were true, then Pompeii wouldn't have been destroyed in the fashion that it did.


Your theory is illogical. It's all fake, it's a bunch of computers everywhere, showing you images of lava, that don't exist. That's part of the conspiracy, Pompeii doesn't exist, any "proof" you find is obviously made up by the government.

Quote from: "I"
The Earth is filled with twinkies, then volcanoes would spew twinkies everywhere, instead of hot, molten rock.


Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "DFM"
Or you could read it.  Don't blame me for your laziness.


You know I won't read it when you could sum it up for me right here, because all FE'ers seem to be on the same page around here.


Hey, if I took the time to read and understand it, then you can too!

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "DFM"
Too bad it didn't say anything about the object being only of two dimensions.  You lose.


Haha, you're embarrassed just like the government is, as you claim. Horizontal, no tilt, that's flat buddy, it's ok to be wrong, you're already a FE'er.


It says nothing about being only two-dimensional; a cube (which is a three-dimensional geometric object made up of two-dimensional squares)  is flat, but it's three-dimensional; it looks like you are wrong.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "DFM"
Really?  Because, if you were to take a survey asking people what the first thing that came to mind when they hear "UFO", I'd bet about 60-80% would say "aliens" or something similar.


Then 60-80% of people are mislead, or simply retarded. Just because you're one of the 60-80% of retards doesn't make it right.


Although U.F.O. stands for "Unidentified Flying Object", it also includes alien starships.  The picture was obviously an "alien starship".  You lose.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "DFM"
Well, MY point was that pictures can be faked, and you might not have the expertise to know when an image is faked and when it isn't.  Hence why no photographs can be used as evidence.


Um, I just showed you how to figure it out, for me it was common sense, it must be harder for you, but all of your pictures were pretty easily ID'd as fake.


Too bad it's a matter of opinion.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "DFM"
How am I supposed to believe you when you say that you've seen it?  Am I going to have to "take your word for it"?


Yes, I've been in 2nd grade, and saw a globe, I suppose you will have to take my word for it, as hard as it may be.


Yes, because a model proves everything.  As a matter of fact, I hav a model of New York that's in the process of being destroyed by Godzilla and King Ghidorah - someone should warn the citizens of New York that this is bound to happen!  They must evacuate quickly!

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "DFM"

I don't believe I was being humorous.


No, you weren't humorous, but you were trying to be.


Didn't you say that humor is relative?  That one person may find something funny and another may not?  Plus, how do you know that I was trying to be funny?  Where's your proof?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 04, 2007, 04:16:14 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "Minimalist"
What I don't get is FE'ers just basing today's knowledge on Passed-Thesis. Everytime it's "read this, read that, look this up, he said she said..."


I believe most FE'ers refer people to different sources because they were asked to provide a source, or are just plain sick of answering these same questions a few times a week because people join up and dont bother searching to see if someone was as much of a genius as them to have suggested the idea before...


But then why not, copy and paste what they've said before, put it into Microsoft word, and then copy and paste it back on here, if it's so hard to talk about the same stuff?


Or, new people could do a simple search, find the Society's stance on a particular topic, and then we wouldn't have to spend 5 pages of every thread, all either called FE sun or speed of light or what about ships on horizons, and we could continue the discussions from where EVERYONE ELSE ON THE FORUM was up to, and not the latest person to walk through the door...
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 05, 2007, 02:15:52 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
No, I used it to show you what I mean.  I didn't offer it as proof, fool.


That hurt my appendix :(

Quote from: "DFM"

Quote from: "I"
The Earth is filled with twinkies, then volcanoes would spew twinkies everywhere, instead of hot, molten rock.


No, volcanic erruptions are fake!! Don't beleive that stuff, the government does that just to make you too afraid to ever go near a volcano, when really they're harmless, the government sure has fooled you :(

Quote from: "DFM"
Hey, if I took the time to read and understand it, then you can too!


Can, of course I can, but I may not :D ; I'm not going to, whether you did, whether some other FE'ers or RE'ers did, or anyone, I'm not going to, when I have you here to sum it up for me. It's like solving a complex problem in math, by hand, when I have a calculator, right there, there's no point in not using it, see what I mean.

Quote from: "DFM"
It says nothing about being only two-dimensional; a cube (which is a three-dimensional geometric object made up of two-dimensional squares)  is flat, but it's three-dimensional; it looks like you are wrong.


No, it has flat sides, but it's not flat. It appears as though you could be the one who is wrong in this case.

Quote from: "DFM"
Although U.F.O. stands for "Unidentified Flying Object", it also includes alien starships.  The picture was obviously an "alien starship".  You lose.


Um, well unidentified flying object could stand for an alien starship, a bomber from Zimbabwe, an airborne cow, etc......, it's a very vague, ok, so I don't lose.

Quote from: "DFM"
Too bad it's a matter of opinion.


Yeah, so are a lot of things that are obvious. For me it's obvious that the Colts won the Super Bowl last night, but for some, a Canadian with no TV, it's very hard to make that assumption, so it's a matter of opinion, sure.

Quote from: "DFM"
Yes, because a model proves everything.  As a matter of fact, I hav a model of New York that's in the process of being destroyed by Godzilla and King Ghidorah - someone should warn the citizens of New York that this is bound to happen!  They must evacuate quickly!


No, I said I've seen a globe, which just happened to be a globe on a desk, in 2nd grade. Besides sometimes models do show real stuff, right now I have a model of Tiger Stadium, a football stadium in Baton Rouge that the LSU Tigers (see my avatar) play football in, and it's exact to the smallest detail, however, me punching it, and throwing it at the wall, doesn't mean that will happen to it, ok?

Quote from: "DFM"
Didn't you say that humor is relative?  That one person may find something funny and another may not?  Plus, how do you know that I was trying to be funny?  Where's your proof?


Oh, you're giving me too much credit, for it wasn't I that said humor was relative, it was Einstein. Haven't you ever heard of Einstein's theory of relativity? Shortly followed by his Theory of the relativeness of humor?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 05, 2007, 02:18:19 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "Minimalist"
What I don't get is FE'ers just basing today's knowledge on Passed-Thesis. Everytime it's "read this, read that, look this up, he said she said..."


I believe most FE'ers refer people to different sources because they were asked to provide a source, or are just plain sick of answering these same questions a few times a week because people join up and dont bother searching to see if someone was as much of a genius as them to have suggested the idea before...


But then why not, copy and paste what they've said before, put it into Microsoft word, and then copy and paste it back on here, if it's so hard to talk about the same stuff?


Or, new people could do a simple search, find the Society's stance on a particular topic, and then we wouldn't have to spend 5 pages of every thread, all either called FE sun or speed of light or what about ships on horizons, and we could continue the discussions from where EVERYONE ELSE ON THE FORUM was up to, and not the latest person to walk through the door...


Well, now that I've given you the idea, you could do it right now, go back and copy and paste what was said before and put it on Microsoft word, then you won't have to worry about incompetent newbs (noobs) asking stuff that you've already said, it saves everyone the "hard work" of looking stuff up, except you, but that's what the minimize button's for.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 05, 2007, 02:27:10 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Well, now that I've given you the idea, you could do it right now, go back and copy and paste what was said before and put it on Microsoft word, then you won't have to worry about incompetent newbs (noobs) asking stuff that you've already said, it saves everyone the "hard work" of looking stuff up, except you, but that's what the minimize button's for.


I'm sure when everyone gets some free time (mods can help if you want guys) the FAQ will be updated again. Unfortunately, we actually have lives away from here, so it's perhaps not as as you may expect. Until then, you're unfortunately going to have to put in a bit of effort yourself and use the search function and existing FAQ.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 05, 2007, 02:28:44 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Well, now that I've given you the idea, you could do it right now, go back and copy and paste what was said before and put it on Microsoft word, then you won't have to worry about incompetent newbs (noobs) asking stuff that you've already said, it saves everyone the "hard work" of looking stuff up, except you, but that's what the minimize button's for.


I'm sure when everyone gets some free time (mods can help if you want guys) the FAQ will be updated again. Unfortunately, we actually have lives away from here, so it's perhaps not as as you may expect. Until then, you're unfortunately going to have to put in a bit of effort yourself and use the search function and existing FAQ.


I think you overestimate the powers of a wondering newb (noob).
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Sexybitch on February 05, 2007, 02:35:26 PM
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Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 05, 2007, 04:21:34 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
The Earth is filled with twinkies, then volcanoes would spew twinkies everywhere, instead of hot, molten rock.


No, volcanic eruptions are fake!! Don't beleive that stuff, the government does that just to make you too afraid to ever go near a volcano, when really they're harmless, the government sure has fooled you :(


Too bad I've seen one; by the way, what of all the footage?  How do they replicate that?

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Hey, if I took the time to read and understand it, then you can too!


Can, of course I can, but I may not :D ; I'm not going to, whether you did, whether some other FE'ers or RE'ers did, or anyone, I'm not going to, when I have you here to sum it up for me. It's like solving a complex problem in math, by hand, when I have a calculator, right there, there's no point in not using it, see what I mean.


So, I'm supposed to do your work for you?  Don't think so

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
It says nothing about being only two-dimensional; a cube (which is a three-dimensional geometric object made up of two-dimensional squares)  is flat, but it's three-dimensional; it looks like you are wrong.


No, it has flat sides, but it's not flat. It appears as though you could be the one who is wrong in this case.


It is flat; it's a flat cube, as opposed to a rounded/concave/convex cube.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Although U.F.O. stands for "Unidentified Flying Object", it also includes alien starships.  The picture was obviously an "alien starship".  You lose.


Um, well unidentified flying object could stand for an alien starship, a bomber from Zimbabwe, an airborne cow, etc......, it's a very vague, ok, so I don't lose.


Yes, but by looking at the image, you should be able to notice that I meant for "UFO" to equal "alien starship".

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Too bad it's a matter of opinion.


Yeah, so are a lot of things that are obvious. For me it's obvious that the Colts won the Super Bowl last night, but for some, a Canadian with no TV, it's very hard to make that assumption, so it's a matter of opinion, sure.


Gut instincts/intuition can be wrong.  Think quantum-mechanically.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Yes, because a model proves everything.  As a matter of fact, I hav a model of New York that's in the process of being destroyed by Godzilla and King Ghidorah - someone should warn the citizens of New York that this is bound to happen!  They must evacuate quickly!


No, I said I've seen a globe, which just happened to be a globe on a desk, in 2nd grade. Besides sometimes models do show real stuff, right now I have a model of Tiger Stadium, a football stadium in Baton Rouge that the LSU Tigers (see my avatar) play football in, and it's exact to the smallest detail, however, me punching it, and throwing it at the wall, doesn't mean that will happen to it, ok?


Swing again; you missed the point.  My point was that having a model is not proof of anything; you actually have to have experimental evidence to prove something.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Didn't you say that humor is relative?  That one person may find something funny and another may not?  Plus, how do you know that I was trying to be funny?  Where's your proof?


Oh, you're giving me too much credit, for it wasn't I that said humor was relative, it was Einstein. Haven't you ever heard of Einstein's theory of relativity? Shortly followed by his Theory of the relativeness of humor?


1)  I know the mechanics of Special Relativity and I know of General Relativity, so, yes, I've "heard of it".
2)  I didn't realize the relativity of time (time dilation) and length (length contraction) had to do with the relativity of humor.
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 06, 2007, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

Too bad I've seen one; by the way, what of all the footage?  How do they replicate that?


And it was fake, well using all the government technology that we simple folk don't know about, duh.

Quote from: "BOG"
So, I'm supposed to do your work for you?  Don't think so


So, I'm supposded to do my work for me, don't think so.

Quote from: "He"
It is flat; it's a flat cube, as opposed to a rounded/concave/convex cube.


Can't have a flat cube, a cube can have flat sides, but it itself can't be flat.

Quote from: "He"
Yes, but by looking at the image, you should be able to notice that I meant for "UFO" to equal "alien starship".


No, I should be able to tell nothing, except that it's an UFO, because it's unidentified as far as I know, and it's flying, and it's an object. It could be some toy a young little lad in West Massachussets bought, and it goes real high, who am I to say :?

Quote from: "HDTV presented by Sony"
Gut instincts/intuition can be wrong.  Think quantum-mechanically.


How about I think logically, that way it's easy, and I understand what I'm doing.

Quote from: "He"
Swing again; you missed the point.  My point was that having a model is not proof of anything; you actually have to have experimental evidence to prove something.


Yeah, well in that I was just making fun of you for saying that you were destroying it, therefore making it true, which isn't true.

I didn't say that the model itself made the earth round, however what I did say was that the model clearly shows, every single time, that the earth has a tilt to it. Why would the government make the earth round, when it's really flat :lol: , and have a tilt to it, why not just a perfect sphere? Makes no sense, who would go that in depth about it, right down to saying that the north pole and the north magnetic pole aren't even the same, they're quite the distance from each other.

Quote from: "He"

1)  I know the mechanics of Special Relativity and I know of General Relativity, so, yes, I've "heard of it".
2)  I didn't realize the relativity of time (time dilation) and length (length contraction) had to do with the relativity of humor.


Then apparently you've never heard of Einstein's unheard expirements 8-)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 06, 2007, 03:52:38 PM
You know what I wonder, is why it's only you and me here in this thread, BOG. I'm curious as to why noone else dare show their face in here, it's very interesting indeed, and will make me ponder for 13 minutes and 46 seconds. :?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 06, 2007, 06:13:42 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
The Earth is filled with twinkies, then volcanoes would spew twinkies everywhere, instead of hot, molten rock.


No, volcanic eruptions are fake!! Don't beleive that stuff, the government does that just to make you too afraid to ever go near a volcano, when really they're harmless, the government sure has fooled you :(


Too bad I've seen one; by the way, what of all the footage?  How do they replicate that?.

 
the same way the government edited the pictures of the earth duh lol see this is how the flat earth theory sounds to people with half a brain :P  :P  :P
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: plays_with_knives on February 06, 2007, 07:06:13 PM
so how do we know that the government isn't some elaborate conspiracy cooked up by a group of power-hungry nuts in, say, China or something?

by the FE'er logic, the government itself could be just a circle of people in some foreign country on a power trip with access to a lot of money and ways to brainwash people into playacting their own little "government" for them.

the government isn't even real.

it can't have a conspiracy if it doesn't even exist.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 07, 2007, 01:19:37 PM
Quote from: "Edpohatedbas"
http://AlizeeStriptease.com/AlizeeStriptease.wmv


spammers need to just burn in hell... now lets get back to the arguement
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Pipe Dreams on February 07, 2007, 01:35:54 PM
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When I look up a conspiracy, I expect a damn good "theory" (excuse) as to why they're correct, and yet, you guys make the ice wall. What is that? Also, why is everything a conspiracy? If the Earth really was flat, why would people hide that information? What could they POSSIBLY GAIN?!?!?!?!?!?!

Quote from: "The FAQ"
Q: "What is the motive behind this conspiracy?"

A: The motive is unknown although it is probably money (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=categorical+conclusive+conspiracy+compendium&start=0)



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Also, if the Earth is flat, wouldn't that make it 2D? Um flat, of course meaning no depth. I know what your respons to that will be though, it's a cube, but flat's easier to say, yeah, I'm sure.

I've yet to see a single FE'er suggest that the Earth has no height. They simply contend that it's not a ball.
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1 more thing before I listen to some sorry "theories" (excuses), how can you tell people that they can't use pictures from space as proof, just because they haven't been there? So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.

This is true. If you've not accually been to China yourself then the only evidence you have to go on for it's existence is what someone else has told you. How do you know they've not lied to you, or been lied to about where they were?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Pipe Dreams on February 07, 2007, 02:03:44 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Um, no, that'd mean that the surface of the Earth would be a plane, as opposed to a curved surface of a sphere.  Take some geometry.


No, flat means 2D, only 2 dimensions. A square is flat, a circle is flat, and (according to you) the earth is flat.

Quote from: "BOG"
We're using the word, so you have to conform to our definition.


Well, you're using my language of choice, so confine to what the words themselves mean, and don't make up definitions for yourself.

No, LSU, you are the one who's wrong. I'll give you the definitions for flat, since you obviously haven't actually looked it up and have just developed a concept of what you think the word means. What's more, I'll give it to you in "your language of choice" so there won't be any confusion.

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flat  (flāt)  
adj.   flat·ter, flat·test

1)Having a horizontal surface without a slope, tilt, or curvature.
2)Having a smooth, even, level surface: a skirt sewed with fine flat seams.
3)Having a relatively broad surface in relation to thickness or depth: a flat board. See Synonyms at level.
4)Stretched out or lying at full length along the ground; prone.
5)Free of qualification; absolute: a flat refusal.
6)Fixed; unvarying: a flat rate.
7)Lacking interest or excitement; dull: a flat scenario.
8)
a)Lacking in flavor: a flat stew that needs salt.
b)Having lost effervescence or sparkle: flat beer.
c)Deflated. Used of a tire.
d)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
e)Being below the correct pitch.
f)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
9)
a)Deflated. Used of a tire.
b)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
c)Being below the correct pitch.
d)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
10)Of or relating to a horizontal line that displays no ups or downs and signifies the absence of physiological
activity: A flat electroencephalogram indicates a loss of brain function.
11)Commercially inactive; sluggish: flat sales for the month.
12)Unmodulated; monotonous: a flat voice.
13)Lacking variety in tint or shading; uniform: "The sky was bright but flat, the color of oyster shells" (Anne Tyler).
14)Not glossy; mat: flat paint.
15)Music
a)Being below the correct pitch.
b)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
16)Designating the vowel a as pronounced in bad or cat.
17)Nautical Taut. Used of a sail.

So, which one of those says anything about two dimensionality?
Title: Fe'ers should be removed from the gene pool...
Post by: zach3792 on February 07, 2007, 02:16:44 PM
I have several questions for you FE'ers:

1) If the Earth is "flat" (implying that it is 2 dimensional), how is it that the goverment can dig at all?

2) How could you possibly know the diameter of the sun, if it's, um, hot?

3) Why is it called the "NORTH" pole, if it's in the center?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 07, 2007, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Well, now that I've given you the idea, you could do it right now, go back and copy and paste what was said before and put it on Microsoft word, then you won't have to worry about incompetent newbs (noobs) asking stuff that you've already said, it saves everyone the "hard work" of looking stuff up, except you, but that's what the minimize button's for.


I'm sure when everyone gets some free time (mods can help if you want guys) the FAQ will be updated again. Unfortunately, we actually have lives away from here, so it's perhaps not as as you may expect. Until then, you're unfortunately going to have to put in a bit of effort yourself and use the search function and existing FAQ.


I think you overestimate the powers of a wondering newb (noob).



If you can't be bothered searching, why would we be bothered answering?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: zach3792 on February 07, 2007, 02:23:50 PM
Quote from: "Pipe Dreams"
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When I look up a conspiracy, I expect a damn good "theory" (excuse) as to why they're correct, and yet, you guys make the ice wall. What is that? Also, why is everything a conspiracy? If the Earth really was flat, why would people hide that information? What could they POSSIBLY GAIN?!?!?!?!?!?!

Quote from: "The FAQ"
Q: "What is the motive behind this conspiracy?"

A: The motive is unknown although it is probably money (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6308&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=categorical+conclusive+conspiracy+compendium&start=0)



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Also, if the Earth is flat, wouldn't that make it 2D? Um flat, of course meaning no depth. I know what your respons to that will be though, it's a cube, but flat's easier to say, yeah, I'm sure.

Quote from: "DFM who is getting on my nerves and just"
I've yet to see a single FE'er suggest that the Earth has no height. They simply contend that it's not a ball.


You've "yet to see it", eh? Well, look at the very top of the screen...."The FLAT Earth society", good call, Captain Morgan.



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1 more thing before I listen to some sorry "theories" (excuses), how can you tell people that they can't use pictures from space as proof, just because they haven't been there? So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.

This is true. If you've not accually been to China yourself then the only evidence you have to go on for it's existence is what someone else has told you. How do you know they've not lied to you, or been lied to about where they were?


You're fairly queer aren't you? If China was fake, then where did Jackie Chan come from?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: zach3792 on February 07, 2007, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: "Pipe Dreams"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOG"
Um, no, that'd mean that the surface of the Earth would be a plane, as opposed to a curved surface of a sphere.  Take some geometry.


No, flat means 2D, only 2 dimensions. A square is flat, a circle is flat, and (according to you) the earth is flat.

Quote from: "BOG"
We're using the word, so you have to conform to our definition.


Well, you're using my language of choice, so confine to what the words themselves mean, and don't make up definitions for yourself.

No, LSU, you are the one who's wrong. I'll give you the definitions for flat, since you obviously haven't actually looked it up and have just developed a concept of what you think the word means. What's more, I'll give it to you in "your language of choice" so there won't be any confusion.

Quote
flat  (flāt)  
adj.   flat·ter, flat·test

1)Having a horizontal surface without a slope, tilt, or curvature.
2)Having a smooth, even, level surface: a skirt sewed with fine flat seams.
3)Having a relatively broad surface in relation to thickness or depth: a flat board. See Synonyms at level.
4)Stretched out or lying at full length along the ground; prone.
5)Free of qualification; absolute: a flat refusal.
6)Fixed; unvarying: a flat rate.
7)Lacking interest or excitement; dull: a flat scenario.
8)
a)Lacking in flavor: a flat stew that needs salt.
b)Having lost effervescence or sparkle: flat beer.
c)Deflated. Used of a tire.
d)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
e)Being below the correct pitch.
f)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
9)
a)Deflated. Used of a tire.
b)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
c)Being below the correct pitch.
d)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
10)Of or relating to a horizontal line that displays no ups or downs and signifies the absence of physiological
activity: A flat electroencephalogram indicates a loss of brain function.
11)Commercially inactive; sluggish: flat sales for the month.
12)Unmodulated; monotonous: a flat voice.
13)Lacking variety in tint or shading; uniform: "The sky was bright but flat, the color of oyster shells" (Anne Tyler).
14)Not glossy; mat: flat paint.
15)Music
a)Being below the correct pitch.
b)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
16)Designating the vowel a as pronounced in bad or cat.
17)Nautical Taut. Used of a sail.

So, which one of those says anything about two dimensionality?


You guys need to read the very first definition, it's obviously the one being described. Horizontal, with no tilt, that's flat, try understanding big words.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 07, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
Pipe. do you honestly take "Flat" to mean 2 dimensional?  :shock:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on February 07, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
I think that the icon for the website is quite misleading. Midgard has a nice representation of what "flat" really is in his signature, even if it mis-represents the shape of the "flat" earth.
Title: LSUTiger is right
Post by: Tigerfan29 on February 07, 2007, 04:10:26 PM
this is a bunch of crap. I am tired of being stupid. Only idiots would belive something as vague and general as this.  The only way the Earth would be flat is if we were all trippen' on acid.  If the Earth is a cylander how deep is it? What is on the other side? How many other flat Earths are there? What is my middle name? And why are we here? :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:  :?:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on February 07, 2007, 04:12:07 PM
You aren't really here if you don't believe you are.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 07, 2007, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
You aren't really here if you don't believe you are.

ok i gotta say thats the dumbest shit i have ever heard and i hang out with retards all day
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on February 07, 2007, 05:32:40 PM
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Dead Kangaroo on February 07, 2007, 05:34:16 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
i hang out with retards all day
So your a solitary kind of person then?
Title: Re: LSUTiger is right
Post by: Rick_James on February 07, 2007, 05:38:56 PM
Quote from: "Tigerfan29"
I am tired of being stupid.



Yes, it must be frustrating.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 07, 2007, 05:41:09 PM
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on

 where is the actual evedence that there is an icewall or that any of this
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 07, 2007, 06:02:19 PM
Quote from: "Ozone07"
LSU the ice wall is what the Titanic ran into and sunk to the bottom of the Atlantic.


bullshit the titanic hit an iceburg in the NORTH ATLANTIC
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 07, 2007, 06:05:49 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on



oops! Guess that was one of those "If you aren't sure what they're talking about, don't make yourself look worse by commenting" situations. Oh well!
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 07, 2007, 06:13:12 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on



oops! Guess that was one of those "If you aren't sure what they're talking about, don't make yourself look worse by commenting" situations. Oh well!

i honestly dont care what the hell it is but if ur gonna refrence to something make sure everybody knows what the hell ur talkin bout
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 07, 2007, 06:18:38 PM
Quote from: "Dead Kangaroo"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
i hang out with retards all day
So your a solitary kind of person then?

not solidatary but im not as stupid as the rest of um
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: 742617000027 on February 07, 2007, 06:23:42 PM
(http://www.godhatesglobes.com/bimages/photo.jpg)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 07, 2007, 06:29:44 PM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!! What the hell happened to my thread, some retard tries to tell me what flat is, someone else tells me that everyone's trippin on acid, and another is a total idiot, and I can tell he's fat I just know it!!

Can we get back to the discussion at hand?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 07, 2007, 07:17:55 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on



oops! Guess that was one of those "If you aren't sure what they're talking about, don't make yourself look worse by commenting" situations. Oh well!

i honestly dont care what the hell it is but if ur gonna refrence to something make sure everybody knows what the hell ur talkin bout



Everybody does. Except you.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Dead Kangaroo on February 07, 2007, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Dead Kangaroo"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
i hang out with retards all day
So your a solitary kind of person then?

not solidatary but im not as stupid as the rest of um
So your soft then?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 07, 2007, 08:43:13 PM
Quote from: "zach3792"
Quote
flat  (fl?t)  
adj.   flat·ter, flat·test

1)Having a horizontal surface without a slope, tilt, or curvature.
2)Having a smooth, even, level surface: a skirt sewed with fine flat seams.
3)Having a relatively broad surface in relation to thickness or depth: a flat board. See Synonyms at level.
4)Stretched out or lying at full length along the ground; prone.
5)Free of qualification; absolute: a flat refusal.
6)Fixed; unvarying: a flat rate.
7)Lacking interest or excitement; dull: a flat scenario.
8)
a)Lacking in flavor: a flat stew that needs salt.
b)Having lost effervescence or sparkle: flat beer.
c)Deflated. Used of a tire.
d)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
e)Being below the correct pitch.
f)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
9)
a)Deflated. Used of a tire.
b)Electrically discharged. Used of a storage battery.
c)Being below the correct pitch.
d)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
10)Of or relating to a horizontal line that displays no ups or downs and signifies the absence of physiological
activity: A flat electroencephalogram indicates a loss of brain function.
11)Commercially inactive; sluggish: flat sales for the month.
12)Unmodulated; monotonous: a flat voice.
13)Lacking variety in tint or shading; uniform: "The sky was bright but flat, the color of oyster shells" (Anne Tyler).
14)Not glossy; mat: flat paint.
15)Music
a)Being below the correct pitch.
b)Being one half step lower than the corresponding natural key: the key of B flat.
16)Designating the vowel a as pronounced in bad or cat.
17)Nautical Taut. Used of a sail.


You guys need to read the very first definition, it's obviously the one being described. Horizontal, with no tilt, that's flat, try understanding big words.

So, which one of those says anything about two dimensionality?

Must we give you the definition of "dimensionality"/"dimension"?  Seriously,
Quote from: "zach3792"
try understanding big words.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 07, 2007, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Pipe. do you honestly take "Flat" to mean 2 dimensional?  :shock:


No; LSUTiger1712 and that dumbass zach guy (sorry, didn't bother to look up your username, zach3792) did, though.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Dead Kangaroo on February 07, 2007, 08:48:24 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Where is the actual evedence that there is an icewall or that any of this
...Micheal Jackson cardboard cut-outs supposidly mooning the pyjama gnomes in Hawaii?
(Thought I'd finish your sentance for you.)



P.S If you meant to end your sentance then try and get a grammer/spell checker as your in drastic need of it.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 07, 2007, 08:51:28 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on


Oh yes, because if you didn't understand something, it's obviously dumb and moronic.

(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/images/dime_calabimultiple.jpg)
(http://mathshop.digi-area.com/prod/atlas/examples/images/ricciflat35.gif)(http://mathshop.digi-area.com/prod/atlas/examples/images/ricciflat36.gif)(http://mathshop.digi-area.com/prod/atlas/examples/images/ricciflat37.gif)



Point proven.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 07, 2007, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on


Oh yes, because if you didn't understand something, it's obviously dumb and moronic.

(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/images/dime_calabimultiple.jpg)
(http://mathshop.digi-area.com/prod/atlas/examples/images/ricciflat35.gif)(http://mathshop.digi-area.com/prod/atlas/examples/images/ricciflat36.gif)(http://mathshop.digi-area.com/prod/atlas/examples/images/ricciflat37.gif)



Point proven.


..........................10 :D
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 07, 2007, 10:08:29 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

So, which one of those says anything about two dimensionality?

Must we give you the definition of "dimensionality"/"dimension"?  Seriously,
Quote from: "zach3792"
try understanding big words.


How many times do I have to say it? If it's horizontal, with no slope, it's flat. So, if the earth is flat, where do the mountains come in, or how do oceans have depth, and why doesn't arkansas have electricity? :?

All answered in 1 simple sentence: The earth isn't flat, hey, look at that!! IF it were, in any way, the shape FE'ers believe, then it's cylindrical, but it's also infinite I've heard, and moving faster than the speed of light after each passing year, so, you guys really do confuse me with such BS, sorry.
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: EvilToothpaste on February 07, 2007, 10:26:51 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
How many times do I have to say it? If it's horizontal, with no slope, it's flat. So, if the earth is flat, where do the mountains come in, or how do oceans have depth, and why doesn't arkansas have electricity? :?

All answered in 1 simple sentence: The earth isn't flat, hey, look at that!! IF it were, in any way, the shape FE'ers believe, then it's cylindrical, but it's also infinite I've heard, and moving faster than the speed of light after each passing year, so, you guys really do confuse me with such BS, sorry.

You're just confusing yourself with these definitions.  You must know what is meant by a "flat" Earth just as you must know what is mean by a "round" Earth.  Or, let's get something straight:  do you believe the Earth is "round?"

Quote
round:
–adjective
1.   having a flat, circular surface, as a disk.


How about now?
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 07, 2007, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: "EvilToothpaste"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
How many times do I have to say it? If it's horizontal, with no slope, it's flat. So, if the earth is flat, where do the mountains come in, or how do oceans have depth, and why doesn't arkansas have electricity? :?

All answered in 1 simple sentence: The earth isn't flat, hey, look at that!! IF it were, in any way, the shape FE'ers believe, then it's cylindrical, but it's also infinite I've heard, and moving faster than the speed of light after each passing year, so, you guys really do confuse me with such BS, sorry.

You're just confusing yourself with these definitions.  You must know what is meant by a "flat" Earth just as you must know what is mean by a "round" Earth.  Or, let's get something straight:  do you believe the Earth is "round?"


I have an idea, but ideas aren't of use to me in this place.

Quote
round:
–adjective
1.   having a flat, circular surface, as a disk.


Quote from: "DFM"
How about now?


Then call me a SE'er from now on, they could've called me on that, but didn't.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: <Believe> on February 07, 2007, 10:37:24 PM
Mah moma teld me ths is all troo! She's a very smrt laday. Her moma is her aunt. LOL! aint that right thar funny nuff to hears!
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 07, 2007, 10:37:57 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

So, which one of those says anything about two dimensionality?

Must we give you the definition of "dimensionality"/"dimension"?  Seriously,
Quote from: "zach3792"
try understanding big words.


How many times do I have to say it? If it's horizontal, with no slope, it's flat. So, if the earth is flat, where do the mountains come in, or how do oceans have depth, and why doesn't arkansas have electricity?


We didn't say it was uniformly flat.
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Dead Kangaroo on February 07, 2007, 10:40:47 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "EvilToothpaste"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
How many times do I have to say it? If it's horizontal, with no slope, it's flat. So, if the earth is flat, where do the mountains come in, or how do oceans have depth, and why doesn't arkansas have electricity? :?

All answered in 1 simple sentence: The earth isn't flat, hey, look at that!! IF it were, in any way, the shape FE'ers believe, then it's cylindrical, but it's also infinite I've heard, and moving faster than the speed of light after each passing year, so, you guys really do confuse me with such BS, sorry.

You're just confusing yourself with these definitions.  You must know what is meant by a "flat" Earth just as you must know what is mean by a "round" Earth.  Or, let's get something straight:  do you believe the Earth is "round?"


I have an idea, but ideas aren't of use to me in this place.

Quote
round:
–adjective
1.   having a flat, circular surface, as a disk.


Quote from: "DFM"
How about now?


Then call me a SE'er from now on, they could've called me on that, but didn't.
Pedantics FTW!
Replace EvilToothpaste's "round" for "spherical".
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 07, 2007, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"

So, which one of those says anything about two dimensionality?

Must we give you the definition of "dimensionality"/"dimension"?  Seriously,
Quote from: "zach3792"
try understanding big words.


How many times do I have to say it? If it's horizontal, with no slope, it's flat. So, if the earth is flat, where do the mountains come in, or how do oceans have depth, and why doesn't arkansas have electricity?


We didn't say it was uniformly flat.


Again with the vagueness, so, I could say, "My basketball is flat", but I didn't say uniformly, so I'm in the clear. That sucks, you slipped out by a loophole, that I should've caught, but it still is annoying.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 08, 2007, 01:18:27 AM
Please tell me you guys didn't think we meant a perfectly flat face?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: ULTIMA-W on February 08, 2007, 07:26:49 AM
Quote from: "742617000027"
(http://www.godhatesglobes.com/bimages/photo.jpg)


 You win the thread  :lol:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 08, 2007, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Please tell me you guys didn't think we meant a perfectly flat face?


Did I really? No, but I also didn't really think that anyone still thought that the earth was "flat", so who was I to make assumptions. :?  8-)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 08, 2007, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Please tell me you guys didn't think we meant a perfectly flat face?


Did I really? No, but I also didn't really think that anyone still thought that the earth was "flat", so who was I to make assumptions. :?  8-)



It's safe to assume that there are true belivers here.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 08, 2007, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Please tell me you guys didn't think we meant a perfectly flat face?


Did I really? No, but I also didn't really think that anyone still thought that the earth was "flat", so who was I to make assumptions. :?  8-)



It's safe to assume that there are true belivers here.


Now................BECAUSE I HAVE 100 POSTS!!!! 8-)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 08, 2007, 06:03:20 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Please tell me you guys didn't think we meant a perfectly flat face?


Did I really? No, but I also didn't really think that anyone still thought that the earth was "flat", so who was I to make assumptions. :?  8-)



It's safe to assume that there are true belivers here.


if they are its safe to assume they are retarded
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Quarrior on February 08, 2007, 07:13:02 PM
Can we please discuss the ice-wall here. It cracks me up
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 08, 2007, 08:40:34 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
It's safe to assume that there are true belivers here.


if they are its safe to assume they are retarded


Says the one who can't punctuate/capitalize properly.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Genius Will on February 08, 2007, 09:14:44 PM
Your smileys froze my computer.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 09, 2007, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
It's safe to assume that there are true belivers here.


if they are its safe to assume they are retarded


Says the one who can't punctuate/capitalize properly.


He's an idiot, and I just know he's fat, not sure why :?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 10, 2007, 06:59:10 PM
Well.....................noone appears to be able to respond to my points!! :D
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: The Government on February 10, 2007, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: "742617000027"
(http://www.godhatesglobes.com/bimages/photo.jpg)


L
O
L
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: edlloyd on February 11, 2007, 04:23:13 AM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
It's safe to assume that there are true belivers here.


if they are its safe to assume they are retarded


Says the one who can't punctuate/capitalize properly.


Sorry mate, but capitalise is spelt with an S. Wha't the point having a go at how someone spells? It's a debate about FE not English.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 11, 2007, 11:16:51 AM
Quote from: "Wiki"
Capitalization (or capitalisation) is writing a word with its first letter as a majuscule (upper case letter) and the remaining letters in minuscules (lower case letters), in those writing systems which have a case distinction.

 :roll:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: edlloyd on February 11, 2007, 11:18:56 AM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "Wiki"
Capitalization (or capitalisation) is writing a word with its first letter as a majuscule (upper case letter) and the remaining letters in minuscules (lower case letters), in those writing systems which have a case distinction.

 :roll:


point being....what?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: manta_ray007 on February 11, 2007, 11:20:51 AM
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "Wiki"
Capitalization (or capitalisation) is writing a word with its first letter as a majuscule (upper case letter) and the remaining letters in minuscules (lower case letters), in those writing systems which have a case distinction.

 :roll:


point being....what?


Point being that it can be spelled either way.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: edlloyd on February 11, 2007, 11:29:16 AM
Quote from: "manta_ray007"
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "Wiki"
Capitalization (or capitalisation) is writing a word with its first letter as a majuscule (upper case letter) and the remaining letters in minuscules (lower case letters), in those writing systems which have a case distinction.

 :roll:


point being....what?


Point being that it can be spelled either way.


point being its a debate about FE not english
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: TheEngineer on February 11, 2007, 11:47:40 AM
The point is you were wrong to correct him.  Now, post on topic, or take it elsewhere.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: edlloyd on February 11, 2007, 12:03:13 PM
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
The point is you were wrong to correct him.  Now, post on topic, or take it elsewhere.


well...i wasnt. I was merely making the point of how he doesnt need to correct someone else on their english when we are here to about FE.

And gettin back to toipic engineer. Can u not answer why the moon has craters?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 11, 2007, 12:43:12 PM
Well, noone seems to be able to respond to this thread anymore, good thing it's college baseball season, or I'd be mad 8-)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: afromonkey on February 11, 2007, 01:17:27 PM
No, to accuratly answer your question you would have to go to the NUT HOUSE. None of the stuff makes sense, it is all based on crap. How would all the things we have now make sense.
satilite tv
gravity
day or night??
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 11, 2007, 05:32:46 PM
Quote from: "afromonkey"
No, to accuratly answer your question you would have to go to the NUT HOUSE. None of the stuff makes sense, it is all based on crap. How would all the things we have now make sense.
satilite tv
gravity
day or night??


Radio towers,
we're going straight up faster than the speed of light, and
the sun is a spotlight.

See, I just answered like a FE'er would, and NONE of it made sense, hooray for me!! :D
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 11, 2007, 05:48:29 PM
Quote from: "edlloyd"
Sorry mate, but capitalise is spelt with an S. Wha't the point having a go at how someone spells? It's a debate about FE not English.


Once again:

UK - s
US - z

deal with it.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: some_one on February 12, 2007, 12:03:11 PM
Alright i have seriously been to the ice wall and i hope soon to post real legit pics. of the ice wall. LSU Tiger your just a douche from Missouri so shut up and shove it!
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Dead Kangaroo on February 12, 2007, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: "some_one"
Alright i have seriously been to the ice wall and i hope soon to post real legit pics. of the ice wall. LSU Tiger your just a douche from Missouri so shut up and shove it!

*Chuckles*
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: The Government on February 12, 2007, 12:22:09 PM
This is the ice wall


(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1681/collagepc4.jpg)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 12, 2007, 12:53:13 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
It's safe to assume that there are true belivers here.


if they are its safe to assume they are retarded


Says the one who can't punctuate/capitalize properly.

plz everybody knows that no person with a life punctuates or capitalizes
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 12, 2007, 12:55:52 PM
Quote from: "The Government"
This is the ice wall


(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1681/collagepc4.jpg)
lmao thats friggin awesome im a believer now
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Ticky on February 12, 2007, 12:57:03 PM
I like how there's a turtle and a couple elephants carrying the earth while walking along the ice wall at the edge...of...th...oh shit, I know what's under the earth...it's another HUGE earth! :shock:

--Ticky
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 12, 2007, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: "edlloyd"
What's the point having a go at how someone spells?


1)  Since when did punctuation and capitalization = spelling?  Last I checked, they were a part of grammar, not spelling.
2)  I've dealt with the English language for fourteen years; I'd like to think that I actually learned some of it, and that time didn't go totally to waste.  Plus, a simple Google search will tell you whether or not you misspelled something; take the extra two-three seconds to look it up.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 12, 2007, 02:31:54 PM
I'm sick of this thread spiraling downward like this :evil:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 12, 2007, 04:12:06 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I'm sick of this thread spiraling downward like this :evil:
i agree we are so far off topic its disturbing so come on flat earthers say something stupid so we can pwn ur nooby asses  (hints my name)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 12, 2007, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: "some_one"
Alright i have seriously been to the ice wall and i hope soon to post real legit pics. of the ice wall. LSU Tiger your just a douche from Missouri so shut up and shove it!

ok first of all a douche from misouri... come on everyone knows canada is way worse than misouri so u can go shove it in a box as you so quaintly put it and how can you go to the icewall if it does not exist
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 12, 2007, 10:37:15 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I'm sick of this thread spiraling downward like this :evil:
i agree we are so far off topic its disturbing so come on flat earthers say something stupid so we can pwn ur nooby asses  (hints my name)


I believe it was us "pwning" you.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 13, 2007, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I'm sick of this thread spiraling downward like this :evil:
i agree we are so far off topic its disturbing so come on flat earthers say something stupid so we can pwn ur nooby asses  (hints my name)


I believe it was us "pwning" you.

how do you figure that ur pwnin me if im odviously pwnin u since all you can argue about is grammar
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: some_one on February 13, 2007, 12:04:35 PM
you wait till i get pics. i  have a friend in the government and he will get some legit pics. so i can post and pwnnoobs go get a life.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: some_one on February 13, 2007, 12:11:25 PM
Yall wait yall wait.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 13, 2007, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: "some_one"
you wait till i get pics. i  have a friend in the government and he will get some legit pics. so i can post and pwnnoobs go get a life.

i have a life odviously you dont if you believe in flat earth
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on February 13, 2007, 12:17:34 PM
You know, instead of saying we have no life, why don't you get off WoW. A level 70 Elf doesn't make your life any more real, ya know.

And if you do have said life, you would understand this exercise a little better...
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: some_one on February 13, 2007, 12:22:04 PM
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/chimpy15/ice_wall.jpg)
what now!
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 13, 2007, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
You know, instead of saying we have no life, why don't you get off WoW. A level 70 Elf doesn't make your life any more real, ya know.

And if you do have said life, you would understand this exercise a little better...
lmao i admit i do play warcraft but its rare i only do it on boreing sundays other than that i go out and vandalise shit and blow shit up and what ever else you can think of thats destructive
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 13, 2007, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: "some_one"
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/chimpy15/ice_wall.jpg)
what now!
u noob u pulled that off a google search for the ice wall.... in fact i watched you do it while u sat next to me in biology so what now
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Pyrochimp on February 13, 2007, 12:30:10 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
You know, instead of saying we have no life, why don't you get off WoW. A level 70 Elf doesn't make your life any more real, ya know.

And if you do have said life, you would understand this exercise a little better...
lmao i admit i do play warcraft but its rare i only do it on boreing sundays other than that i go out and vandalise shit and blow shit up and what ever else you can think of thats destructive


This is what happens when you play WoW, kids.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on February 13, 2007, 01:45:22 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
You know, instead of saying we have no life, why don't you get off WoW. A level 70 Elf doesn't make your life any more real, ya know.

And if you do have said life, you would understand this exercise a little better...
lmao i admit i do play warcraft but its rare i only do it on boreing sundays other than that i go out and vandalise shit and blow shit up and what ever else you can think of thats destructive


Oh ok.

But you still don't seem to grasp the underlying purpose of the site. FE is only the apparent reason it exists.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: pwnnoobs on February 13, 2007, 02:18:22 PM
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
You know, instead of saying we have no life, why don't you get off WoW. A level 70 Elf doesn't make your life any more real, ya know.

And if you do have said life, you would understand this exercise a little better...
lmao i admit i do play warcraft but its rare i only do it on boreing sundays other than that i go out and vandalise shit and blow shit up and what ever else you can think of thats destructive


Oh ok.

But you still don't seem to grasp the underlying purpose of the site. FE is only the apparent reason it exists.

rly then if your so smart then why does it exist
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 13, 2007, 02:23:33 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
I'm sick of this thread spiraling downward like this :evil:
i agree we are so far off topic its disturbing so come on flat earthers say something stupid so we can pwn ur nooby asses  (hints my name)


I believe it was us "pwning" you.

how do you figure that ur pwnin me if im odviously pwnin u since all you can argue about is grammar


Yes, obviously, because you made such valid points:
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
the same way the government edited the pictures of the earth duh lol see this is how the flat earth theory sounds to people with half a brain :P  :P  :P
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
spammers need to just burn in hell... now lets get back to the arguement
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
ok i gotta say thats the dumbest shit i have ever heard and i hang out with retards all day
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on

 where is the actual evedence that there is an icewall or that any of this
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Ozone07"
LSU the ice wall is what the Titanic ran into and sunk to the bottom of the Atlantic.


bullshit the titanic hit an iceburg in the NORTH ATLANTIC
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
Schroedinger's Cat, dumbass. Put some effort into things. :?
ok that made no sense... moving on



oops! Guess that was one of those "If you aren't sure what they're talking about, don't make yourself look worse by commenting" situations. Oh well!

i honestly dont care what the hell it is but if ur gonna refrence to something make sure everybody knows what the hell ur talkin bout
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
Quote from: "Dead Kangaroo"
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
i hang out with retards all day
So your a solitary kind of person then?

not solidatary but im not as stupid as the rest of um
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
if they are its safe to assume they are retarded
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
plz everybody knows that no person with a life punctuates or capitalizes
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
lmao thats friggin awesome im a believer now


Oops, there's that damned hypocrisy again; it seems to love you or something.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: cmdshft on February 13, 2007, 02:35:10 PM
Quote from: "pwnnoobs"
rly then if your so smart then why does it exist


That's for you to figure out. I had to figure it out on my own.

Hopefully you will too.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 13, 2007, 06:30:45 PM
http://www.pwnnoobs.justgotowned.com/
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 13, 2007, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: "Hara Taiki"
You know, instead of saying we have no life, why don't you get off WoW. A level 70 Elf doesn't make your life any more real, ya know.

And if you do have said life, you would understand this exercise a little better...


Well, the simple fact that you know that that is WoW makes it all the more obvious that you too, have 0 room to talk.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Czigot on February 13, 2007, 07:47:20 PM
Quote from: "Ozone07"
LSU the ice wall is what the Titanic ran into and sunk to the bottom of the Atlantic.


Um, I've never heard that before.

Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
Well, the simple fact that you know that that is WoW makes it all the more obvious that you too, have 0 room to talk.


Um, what?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: DeathRoller on February 14, 2007, 11:15:43 PM
(http://www.linenoiz.com/pics/funny/its_a_conspiracy.jpg)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: imnotabeliever on February 14, 2007, 11:22:46 PM
Lol, too right the only answer they have always comes down to conspiracies.
The thing is they cant even provide evidence or proof that there is a conspiracy

FE'ers contradict themselves in many ways too.

Someone was saying something about google being able to correct spelling errors, but when i went to one of the angry rant topics, that same person was saying that just because googles says something, doesnt mean its right.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 14, 2007, 11:38:33 PM
Quote from: "imnotabeliever"
Someone was saying something about google being able to correct spelling errors, but when i went to one of the angry rant topics, that same person was saying that just because googles says something, doesnt mean its right.


Prove it; post both of that person's posts, so we can read them, and not your paraphrased versions.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: imnotabeliever on February 15, 2007, 02:11:47 AM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "imnotabeliever"
Someone was saying something about google being able to correct spelling errors, but when i went to one of the angry rant topics, that same person was saying that just because googles says something, doesnt mean its right.


Prove it; post both of that person's posts, so we can read them, and not your paraphrased versions.


Why should I? when all many of you always refuse to give us answers and always say, go read the FAQ.
Well to that im just gonna say look it up for yourself.

Anyway, I've just decided this will be the last post i post on this forum, arguing makes me stressed and i can't study properly.
Call it running away, cowardice whatever. In the end it doesnt matter what you believe. In a matter of time, one theory will be proved wrong.
Posting here has already used up too much of my time and its obvious that neither side will be able to completely convince each other.
I hope im not tempted to come back to these forums and see what you guys have written.

Cya laterz, happy debating.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Rick_James on February 15, 2007, 02:14:21 AM
Quote from: "imnotabeliever"

Why should I? when all many of you always refuse to give us answers and always say, go read the FAQ.
Well to that im just gonna say look it up for yourself.

Anyway, I've just decided this will be the last post i post on this forum, arguing makes me stressed and i can't study properly.
Call it running away, cowardice whatever. In the end it doesnt matter what you believe. In a matter of time, one theory will be proved wrong.
Posting here has already used up too much of my time and its obvious that neither side will be able to completely convince each other.
I hope im not tempted to come back to these forums and see what you guys have written.

Cya laterz, happy debating.


6 posts took too much of your time?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Tao of Pooh on February 15, 2007, 04:08:58 AM
Quote from: "The3dgeLoop"
the earth is cylindrical. we live on the top. the ice wall runs around the edge. it is not 2d.

The earth is a mobius strip.
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: quadz0 on February 15, 2007, 04:09:41 PM
Quote from: "Rick_James"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
 So, according to that logic, China doesn't exist, neither does Florida because I haven't been there!!! Nice proof, real nice proof.


How do you know for sure?


wow, just wow.

How do you know that the earth is flat for sure?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 16, 2007, 10:41:23 PM
pwnnoobs or whatever, quit posting, you're getting annoying. Someone get back on topic because all this "you got owned" "no you got owned" crap is annoying from all of you. :evil:
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 16, 2007, 10:51:27 PM
Bump, this crap place shouldn't be this busy.
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: BOGWarrior89 on February 16, 2007, 11:58:58 PM
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
pwnnoobs or whatever, quit posting, you're getting annoying. Someone get back on topic because all this "you got owned" "no you got owned" crap is annoying from all of you. :evil:


Duh, you got owned.


... What were we talking about before all of this degraded?
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: DELETED on February 17, 2007, 12:00:25 AM
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Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 18, 2007, 04:22:11 PM
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "LSUTiger1712"
pwnnoobs or whatever, quit posting, you're getting annoying. Someone get back on topic because all this "you got owned" "no you got owned" crap is annoying from all of you. :evil:


Duh, you got owned.


... What were we talking about before all of this degraded?


I think about flat earth, but pwnnoobs is an idiot. 8-)
Title: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: LSUTiger1712 on February 18, 2007, 04:30:27 PM
This place is too active for a stupid website. 8-)
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: tickle me elmo on December 02, 2007, 10:21:17 PM
this is an Ice wall.

(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2977680/2/istockphoto_2977680_antarctic_glacier_at_sunset.jpg)
Title: Re: What the hell is an ice wall?
Post by: Trekky0623 on December 02, 2007, 10:52:51 PM
Goddamn you and your thread bumping.