The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: jinho0017 on February 18, 2019, 09:01:57 PM
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Proof video here and lets see some counter arguements
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it's flat.
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Proof video here and lets see some counter arguements
When I look out at the ocean it looks undeniably flat.
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it's flat.
They cant say anything back and now they are just saying that it is flat without a valid reason. Maybe this is the proof that flat earthers doesnt have a strongly good evidence?
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Proof video here and lets see some counter arguements
When I look out at the ocean it looks undeniably flat.
because the earth is so big that unless if you are in a VERY VERY high place by riding a jet or something like that, you cant see the roundness. Earth is LOT bigger than you think is it.
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Proof video here and lets see some counter arguements
It sounds flat to me.
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Proof video here and lets see some counter arguements
When I look out at the ocean it looks undeniably flat.
because the earth is so big that unless if you are in a VERY VERY high place by riding a jet or something like that, you cant see the roundness. Earth is LOT bigger than you think is it.
I've been on jets before and it still looks flat from up there.
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Proof video here and lets see some counter arguements
When I look out at the ocean it looks undeniably flat.
because the earth is so big that unless if you are in a VERY VERY high place by riding a jet or something like that, you cant see the roundness. Earth is LOT bigger than you think is it.
I've been on jets before and it still looks flat from up there.
If you go high enough, you will sea a circular horizon, and earth is LOT bigger than you think, if you want to see a completely round earth than you have to go to space
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Proof video here and lets see some counter arguements
When I look out at the ocean it looks undeniably flat.
because the earth is so big that unless if you are in a VERY VERY high place by riding a jet or something like that, you cant see the roundness. Earth is LOT bigger than you think is it.
I've been on jets before and it still looks flat from up there.
If you go high enough, you will sea a circular horizon, and earth is LOT bigger than you think, if you want to see a completely round earth than you have to go to space
How high do I have to go to see a circular horizon?
I have never been to space and probably never will.
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How high do I have to go to see a circular horizon?
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A bit weak, IMO.
They don’t really seem the best arguments, and just saying images from space must be real is going to be instantly dismissed (even more instantly dismissed than anything else, I mean).
Seems Bill’s so shocked this is even a thing, he hasn’t put much thought into the best way to refute it.
I still think the most comprehensive videos are CoolHardLogic’s. They highlight some pretty major problems with flat earth ideas by comparing with simple observations and basic geometry.
He is less than polite about flat earthers though. Personally, I find them quite funny, but they’re probably not going to win over anyone invested in all this.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmWeueTF8l82GItQhl7vTP_WM43B4ebNq
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It's flat, The moon that everyone sees is exactly the same, cause it's flat too.
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A far away place cannot be visible, or only partly visible, it's because of a) the block of higher altitude of distant sea level and b) earth block by Universal Acceleration. 8)
Without Universal Acceleration theory, flat earth arguments in this matter would be weak, even stupid.
I wonder WHY the FE conference participants & Eric Dubay are so RESISTANT to Universal Acceleration?? :o
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A far away place cannot be visible, or only partly visible, it's because of a) the block of higher altitude of distant sea level and b) earth block by Universal Acceleration. 8)
If the sea level is magically higher further away, that would mean Earth isn't flat, and you would still be able to see these locations.
What is this magical Earth block by UA?
I wonder WHY the FE conference participants & Eric Dubay are so RESISTANT to Universal Acceleration?? :o
Because they assert Earth is stationary. An accelerating Earth goes against that. Also perhaps because they know that UA is seriously flawed.
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the first minute shows how our land looks like 8) 8)
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Jack said:
"What is this magical Earth block by UA?"
>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
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>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
So effectively gravitational lensing, just dressed up fancily.
That would make things appear higher, not lower.
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Jack said:
"What is this magical Earth block by UA?"
>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
Really?
Have you ever calculated how much "the earth accelerating upwards by 1g" could bend light and in what direction?
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Heavenly Breeze, this has been bugging me for a while. I can't identify a mathematical symbol on the second equation in your signature. The one directly below the cupcake?
So it's:
Sun = Flower x the integral of (cupcake x (microphone + quaver) ^ degrees) / something x (apple + heart) ^ degrees
Surely if I knew what the something was, this might make sense. Any ideas?
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Jack said:
"What is this magical Earth block by UA?"
>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
Really?
Have you ever calculated how much "the earth accelerating upwards by 1g" could bend light and in what direction?
I haven't calculated the magnitude, because time is phew 8)
The photons are struck up by the air. The rest hit the ascending earth.
So you cannot see Australia from California unless from sufficiently high altitude.
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Jack said:
"What is this magical Earth block by UA?"
>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
Really?
Have you ever calculated how much "the earth accelerating upwards by 1g" could bend light and in what direction?
I haven't calculated the magnitude, because time is phew 8)
The photons are struck up by the air. The rest hit the ascending earth.
So you cannot see Australia from California unless from sufficiently high altitude.
How high an altitude required? I live in California. Calculate (preferably with Phew) how high I need to go to view Australia. And if able to achieve the altitude necessary to view Australia based upon your calculations I will do so and send pictures.
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I haven't calculated the magnitude, because time is phew
You mean because you realise it is nonsense and wont help?
After all, you don't need to calculate it as people have already done it for you.
As a simple approximation, your FE is roughly 40 000 km wide.
Light travels at a velocity of roughly 300 000 km/s. This means it would take roughly four 30ths of second for light to cross Earth, i.e. 0.13 seconds.
In this time, Earth, accelerating at a rate of 9.8 m/s^2, would have moved a total distance of 0.087 m=8.7 cm relative to the light which started out horizontal relative to Earth. Quite insignificant, and again, in the wrong direction.
The photons are struck up by the air. The rest hit the ascending earth.
Which is it? Does the air or whatever nonsense you want push the photons up, or do they not and you have Earth accelerate and run into them?
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Heavenly Breeze, this has been bugging me for a while. I can't identify a mathematical symbol on the second equation in your signature. The one directly below the cupcake?
So it's:
Sun = Flower x the integral of (cupcake x (microphone + quaver) ^ degrees) / something x (apple + heart) ^ degrees
Surely if I knew what the something was, this might make sense. Any ideas?
Hmm ... Unconvinced. You are very inquisitive. I think you need to ask what kind of character Twilight Sparkle is - the one who wrote it. Well, or in extreme cases, the directors of Hasbro.
The only thing I can tell you about my signature and images on it. Which, I have already added. So this is what exactly under this formula shows the inconsistency with what we see during solar eclipses, with what we are told about them. But most importantly, pay attention to the central part of the composition. If you understand the meaning of drawn. You will laugh at the theories of both spherical earth and flat earth ... Whoever is interested, write personal messages.
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Jack said:
"What is this magical Earth block by UA?"
>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
About 35,000 feet is adequate to plainly see the curvature of the earth with the naked eye IF you have at least a 60 degree, or so, view of the horizon. Some commercial airliners fly that high.
Really?
Have you ever calculated how much "the earth accelerating upwards by 1g" could bend light and in what direction?
I haven't calculated the magnitude, because time is phew 8)
The photons are struck up by the air. The rest hit the ascending earth.
So you cannot see Australia from California unless from sufficiently high altitude.
How high an altitude required? I live in California. Calculate (preferably with Phew) how high I need to go to view Australia. And if able to achieve the altitude necessary to view Australia based upon your calculations I will do so and send pictures.
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Jack said:
"What is this magical Earth block by UA?"
>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
Really?
Have you ever calculated how much "the earth accelerating upwards by 1g" could bend light and in what direction?
I haven't calculated the magnitude, because time is phew 8)
The photons are struck up by the air. The rest hit the ascending earth.
So you cannot see Australia from California unless from sufficiently high altitude.
How high an altitude required? I live in California. Calculate (preferably with Phew) how high I need to go to view Australia. And if able to achieve the altitude necessary to view Australia based upon your calculations I will do so and send pictures.
Calculation... I'm afraid I'd be like as Tesla described:
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:o
So far to crack something new in physics is a matter of months even year duration to come to a conclusion.
For time being, please show us about Australia view from space.
By what is it? Helicopter? Drone? Or?
Of course one thing for sure: The higher the better.
For globe earth model it's impossible, because from California, Australia position is beyond 6 hours away AKA 90° of sun traveling, so let's see what is like for flat earth model. By logic, Australia is possibly visible as long as the observer's altitude is sufficient and there is no view blocks e.g. atmoplane, cloud, fog etc.
You can also clarify the existence of the dome. FEers say the dome is real and proven even by video and picture evidences.
The question: Is the dome position high enough to let you see Australia. How high is it actually?
Another intriguing matter:
You can also clarify whether 'blacky cloud' is like a 'land', a huge flying body on where angels stay and do their job in climate matters etc.
If so, why not trying to communicate with them. You'd probably know secret things such as the reason why so far they generate tornados.
Good luck 8)
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I haven't calculated the magnitude, because time is phew
You mean because you realise it is nonsense and wont help?
After all, you don't need to calculate it as people have already done it for you.
As a simple approximation, your FE is roughly 40 000 km wide.
Light travels at a velocity of roughly 300 000 km/s. This means it would take roughly four 30ths of second for light to cross Earth, i.e. 0.13 seconds.
In this time, Earth, accelerating at a rate of 9.8 m/s^2, would have moved a total distance of 0.087 m=8.7 cm relative to the light which started out horizontal relative to Earth. Quite insignificant, and again, in the wrong direction.
The photons are struck up by the air. The rest hit the ascending earth.
Which is it? Does the air or whatever nonsense you want push the photons up, or do they not and you have Earth accelerate and run into them?
Horizon is visible as far as 30 miles. That means horizontal light towards observer's eyes hits the ascending earth somewhere over there. The more distance the higher position needed to see the object. Not by linear altitude calculation but by acceleration altitude calculation.. with some variables.
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For globe earth model it's impossible, because from California, Australia position is beyond 6 hours away AKA 90° of sun traveling
6 hours is a very poor method.
Places can be outside this 6 hour range and still be visible from high enough, places can be inside it and not be visible.
Good examples are near the poles.
If you are very close to a pole, even being at a low altitude allows you to see the other side of the pole, 12 hours apart. Meanwhile, you can't see the same "time" at the other pole.
Horizon is visible as far as 30 miles. That means horizontal light from observer's eyes hits the ascending earth somewhere over there. The more distance the higher position needed to see the object. Not by linear altitude calculation but by acceleration altitude calculation.. with some variables.
The distance to the horizon varies dramatically. If you are near sea level it is a mere few km.
But light doesn't go from the observers eyes. It comes from the object to the observers eyes. But as I said, if it is Earth ascending up to hit the light then that would simply make the object appear higher, not disappear.
Try drawing out the path of the light in the reference frame of the accelerating Earth, and in an inertial reference frame.
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Danang confuses travel times with time zones.
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Danang confuses travel times with time zones.
Do both things belong to 'leisure time'? :o
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Heck to the no. The Earth is undeniably flat. This is especially because the world cannot be round of it is day here and night somewhere else. Because the sun is square and only shines light in one direction. Boom roasted. #proof
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>> The object's horizontal light - especially from lowest altitude - will strike the earth because the earth accelerates upwards by 1g.
So effectively gravitational lensing, just dressed up fancily.
That would make things appear higher, not lower.
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