Why do women lie about their weight?
Why do women lie about their weight?
In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.
In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Power over the masses
Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.
Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.
That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.
And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Power over the masses
And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Power over the masses
Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.
That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.
Exactly. The Earth zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h, NO basis in fact whatsoever. Thank you for affirming.
Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.
That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.
Exactly. The Earth zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h, NO basis in fact whatsoever. Thank you for affirming.
Oooooh. I bet you think that's clever.
And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Power over the masses
Indeed. Yet they believe.
“In the Middle Ages people believed that the earth was flat, for which they had at least the evidence of their senses: we believe it to be round, not because as many as one percent of us could give the physical reasons for so quaint a belief, but because modern science has convinced us that nothing that is obvious is true, and that everything that is magical, improbable, extraordinary, gigantic, microscopic, heartless, or outrageous is scientific.”
~ George Bernard Shaw
Why, indeed.
I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?Indeed. Yet they believe.And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Power over the masses
If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?Indeed. Yet they believe.And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Power over the masses
If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
Neither the topic nor the OP made any reference to "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
You do like your straw-man arguments.
I dont know their agenda. Maybe they do it for kicks.
Unacceptable! In answer to, "If there is no benefit, why would they do this?" you answered, "Power over the masses."I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?Indeed. Yet they believe.And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.In fact, what is the reason for the government to lie to us that the Earth is round?What can they benefit from this?If there is no benefit, why would they do this?
Power over the masses
I dont know their agenda. Maybe they do it for kicks. But lets face it, if you have indoctrinated people to believe certain things about the nature of their existence, in a way you control them. You are their God whether they see it or not.
Unacceptable! I asked YOU why you dragged "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h" into the mix?If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
Neither the topic nor the OP made any reference to "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
You do like your straw-man arguments.
Indeed. How does NASA make the leap from a round Earth to a spinning ball zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h. Yet that is what we are told and that is what many believe.
Unacceptable! I asked YOU why you dragged "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h" into the mix?
You haven't even shown that NASA makes such a leap so there's no need for me to try to guess how NASA may or may not have done something.
Now this time answer the simple questions that I asked:
- What power does lying to us "that the Earth is round" give anyone over masses"?
- How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h"?
- And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence"?
Incorrect! All you did was add more confusion but you never gave any straight answer to any of those questions.Now this time answer the simple questions that I asked:
- What power does lying to us "that the Earth is round" give anyone over masses"?
- How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h"?
- And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence"?
I have already answered these.... It's not my fault I cant doctor an answer to your level of acceptability
And what power would that be? The masses couldn't care less about the shape of the earth.And you meaningless answer:
Indeed. Yet they believe.So I, hopefully, ask again:
I asked "And what power would that be?" Would you care to answer the question?To which you give the inane response:
I dont know their agenda. Maybe they do it for kicks. But lets face it, if you have indoctrinated people to believe certain things about the nature of their existence, in a way you control them. You are their God whether they see it or not.
How do you make the enormous leap from the topic, "Why would NASA claim Earth is round?" to "the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".And back comes another carefully crafted non-answer:
Neither the topic nor the OP made any reference to "the Earth . . . . . . zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h".
You do like your straw-man arguments.
Indeed. How does NASA make the leap from a round Earth to a spinning ball zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h. Yet that is what we are told and that is what many believe.
But lets face it, if you have indoctrinated people to believe certain things about the nature of their existence, in a way you control them.So I ask a straight forward question:
And exactly how does the shape of the earth have anything to do with "the nature of their existence?"
NASA is just a name..is it ?
The Apollo program is begging for answers.
Apollo God of the Sun (heliocentric model)
The rays of light that radiate from Apollo's head symbolize that he is the god of the sun. According to the Greek myth, each morning Apollo rides a golden flaming chariot across the sky bringing daylight to the world.
Why in the world would a supposed ''christian'' nation use occult symbolism in their biggest scientific achievement ?
The NASA logo of the vector image is a representation of the serpent's forked tongue despite what they claim to the general public.
What has Wernher von Braun the war criminal in charge of Apollo got to say on the matter ?
“It [the rocket] will free man from his remaining chains, the chains of gravity which still tie him to this planet. It will open to him the gates of heaven.”
So we have an ancient Greek sun god, snake tongue satanical symbolism and the head of NASA claiming that the rocket is our way out of our remaining earthly chains to finally concor the heavens.
It is all over the bible to warn for this end times wickedness and agenda of the lawless generation.
Of course this will be ridiculed, but there is more to come......
Outlets like NdGT and Elon Musk are slowly prepairing the world for this ''other'' dimensions that our limited awareness cannot really comprehend.
Our world is just an illusion, a hologram of a reality that lies underneath this 3D (+ time) shallow dimension.
In fact reality could be a hologram, a game of super itelligent aliens, or even far more outlandish than that i want to write here and now....
Bottom line,......they are slowly teaching a reality from scratch that no one has ever teached from the dawn of this world nor our own forefathers..
It will lead to a total and massive alienation of reality as we know it to be for thousends of years.
They can program whatever cosmic reality into our children's minds as long as they label it as ''based on true science''.
I follow this discussion from the beginning of the string theory and what is offered right now is wicked and satanical.
My children are addults, but i will surely urge them to be extremely critical towards this new reality when it will become part of every day education.
Ok, this right here is not your average, everyday dutchy, this is advanced dutchyStill not advanced dutchy though, because many things don't belong on a forum.
NASA is just a name..is it ?Even if all your silly ideas were correct, where does it get you? Nowhere!
The Apollo program is begging for answers.
Apollo God of the Sun (heliocentric model)
The rays of light that radiate from Apollo's head symbolize that he is the god of the sun. According to the Greek myth, each morning Apollo rides a golden flaming chariot across the sky bringing daylight to the world.
Why in the world would a supposed ''christian'' nation use occult symbolism in their biggest scientific achievement ?
The NASA logo of the vector image is a representation of the serpent's forked tongue despite what they claim to the general public.
What has Wernher von Braun the war criminal in charge of Apollo got to say on the matter ?
“It [the rocket] will free man from his remaining chains, the chains of gravity which still tie him to this planet. It will open to him the gates of heaven.”
So we have an ancient Greek sun god, snake tongue satanical symbolism and the head of NASA claiming that the rocket is our way out of our remaining earthly chains to finally concor the heavens.
It is all over the bible to warn for this end times wickedness and agenda of the lawless generation.
Of course this will be ridiculed, but there is more to come......
Outlets like NdGT and Elon Musk are slowly prepairing the world for this ''other'' dimensions that our limited awareness cannot really comprehend.
Our world is just an illusion, a hologram of a reality that lies underneath this 3D (+ time) shallow dimension.
In fact reality could be a hologram, a game of super itelligent aliens, or even far more outlandish than that i want to write here and now....
Bottom line,......they are slowly teaching a reality from scratch that no one has ever teached from the dawn of this world nor our own forefathers..
It will lead to a total and massive alienation of reality as we know it to be for thousends of years.
They can program whatever cosmic reality into our children's minds as long as they label it as ''based on true science''.
I follow this discussion from the beginning of the string theory and what is offered right now is wicked and satanical.
My children are addults, but i will surely urge them to be extremely critical towards this new reality when it will become part of every day education.
Even if all your silly ideas were correct, where does it get you? Nowhere!Isn't this a contradiction ?
Anyone with half a brain and a pair of eyes can see that the earth cannot be flat with the sun, moon, planets and stars circling above.Have you seen a ship going over the bulge lately by using your eyes only ?
And that is why the Globe has been the only wisely accepted shape for the earth for a couple of millenia!You think you choose wisely to trust men that have a record of recorded wickedness,....your choice.
I repeatedly ask you to explain the simple things that we can see with no assistance from instruments other than perhaps a compass, a stick and a tape measure.And i have answered you that i am a default flatearther, because i dismiss all claims derived from hypothetical musings that fall apart the moment you zoom in....
But you never have an answer - you always go back to ridiculing NASA with stupidity like "Apollo God of the Sun" - "Apollo" is just a name!Your examples go back a long time in history....
Might I ask you what your names of the week are?
Surely you don't use names like:
maandag after the "goddess of the moon",
woensdag after the Norse god Wodan (Odin) or
donderdag from the Norse god of thunder (Thor)?
You are so superstitious when you want to ridicule space missions but even all your ridicule contains no evidence against the reality of space missions.
you can literally make anything sound evil, if you really try...Agreed ! But what has any of this has to do what i have said ?
KISS: Kings In Satan's Service
RUSH: Rulers Under Satan's Hand
AC/DC: Anti-Christ / Devil's Children
None of those are remotely true, but some whacko actually thought that shit up!!
you can literally make anything sound evil, if you really try...Agreed ! But what has any of this has to do what i have said ?
KISS: Kings In Satan's Service
RUSH: Rulers Under Satan's Hand
AC/DC: Anti-Christ / Devil's Children
None of those are remotely true, but some whacko actually thought that shit up!!
No, I won't claim that you are an idiot. My point was that they have nothing to do with whether of not the "Earth is round".Even if all your silly ideas were correct, where does it get you? Nowhere!Isn't this a contradiction ?
If my silly ideas are right it gives me inside in the truth .
If my silly ideas are the figments of an idiot i continue being what i am....an idiot.
I said nothing about seeing "a ship going over the bulge".Quote from: rabinozAnyone with half a brain and a pair of eyes can see that the earth cannot be flat with the sun, moon, planets and stars circling above.Have you seen a ship going over the bulge lately by using your eyes only ?
That is only a minor part of it and ships disappearing etc seems to have been common knowledge centuries before.Quote from: rabinozAnd that is why the Globe has been the only wisely accepted shape for the earth for a couple of millenia!
Going back centuries, journals of seafarers are peppered with language indicating that they knew the Earth was round. “In the offing” meant, and means today, the waters you can see from where you are to the horizon.
“Ahoy, captain, vessel off the starboard bow! Hull down, sir,” might yell the lookout from the crow’s nest
aloft. This meant that all he could see from his vantage point were the sails – the ship’s hull was still below the horizon.
So, “round has been around” (pun intended) for thousands of years. How many thousands? About 22 centuries before the epic confrontation between Galileo and the medieval Church, Phoenician sailors circumnavigated Africa, sailing down the east coast and back up the western shores, through the “Pillars of Hercules” at Gibraltar and back to Egypt, to report to the Pharaoh that, indeed, the world must be round.
You think you choose wisely to trust men that have a record of recorded wickedness,....your choice.I choose the earth's shape that fit's what I see with my own eyes.
I mabe no claim about "the superiour eyesight of the ancient Greeks that concluded that ships sunk below an imaginary bulge".Quote from: rabinozI repeatedly ask you to explain the simple things that we can see with no assistance from instruments other than perhaps a compass, a stick and a tape measure.And i have answered you that i am a default flatearther, because i dismiss all claims derived from hypothetical musings that fall apart the moment you zoom in....
Starting with the superiour eyesight of the ancient Greeks that concluded that ships sunk below an imaginary bulge.
Quote from: rabinozBut you never have an answer - you always go back to ridiculing NASA with stupidity like "Apollo God of the Sun" - "Apollo" is just a name!Your examples go back a long time in history....
Might I ask you what your names of the week are?
Surely you don't use names like:
maandag after the "goddess of the moon",
woensdag after the Norse god Wodan (Odin) or
donderdag from the Norse god of thunder (Thor)?
You are so superstitious when you want to ridicule space missions but even all your ridicule contains no evidence against the reality of space missions.
NASA could use whatever name, image,symbol they thought resembled their journey best.
They choose for the occult and idols instead of names and symbols related to christianity.....why ?
If a president does not ''believe'' in the christian god...he/she stands no chance at all in the final election.
Why look away when NASA introduces mythical and occult names and symbolism ?
NASA claim that the Earth is flat becsuse they are part of Freemason. Freemason is an organisation contorlled by Satan. They are anti Christs and wants to deceive the entire human population about the structure of the world. In this way wisdom that God granted to mankind would be undermined, and the world will be filled with ignorance, which God detests.
For the same reason, God would not have allowed any crime to occur. However crime still occurs. This is not because God is not good, or because God is not almighty, but because the sins of the world is a necessity for free will, abd forcibly removing evils, would remove free will inevitably.
Ahem...... we got off to space in the late fifties and Gagarin in the Vostok 1 was the first human being to look down towards earth from a modest height orbiting earth.For the same reason, God would not have allowed any crime to occur. However crime still occurs. This is not because God is not good, or because God is not almighty, but because the sins of the world is a necessity for free will, abd forcibly removing evils, would remove free will inevitably.
So god can detest the NASA and the Freemasons all he wants b/c they are the work of Satan, but damnit, he does nothing b/c of that damn 'freewill' clause? Lovely.
Back to matter at hand, NASA is not the claimant that the earth is round. If anything, NASA has used all of the tenets of heliocentric globe earth theory to accomplish the things they have claimed to have accomplished. Ex., without 'sling shot' orbiting calculations and subsequent executions based upon globe earth theory, we wouldn't have any of the NASA stuff that has occurred. Now whether you believe any of the NASA stuff has actually occurred, that's a different story. But the bottomline, NASA is and never has been sole authority, nor voice, that the earth is round.
Ahem...... we got off to space in the late fifties and Gagarin in the Vostok 1 was the first human being to look down towards earth from a modest height orbiting earth.For the same reason, God would not have allowed any crime to occur. However crime still occurs. This is not because God is not good, or because God is not almighty, but because the sins of the world is a necessity for free will, abd forcibly removing evils, would remove free will inevitably.
So god can detest the NASA and the Freemasons all he wants b/c they are the work of Satan, but damnit, he does nothing b/c of that damn 'freewill' clause? Lovely.
Back to matter at hand, NASA is not the claimant that the earth is round. If anything, NASA has used all of the tenets of heliocentric globe earth theory to accomplish the things they have claimed to have accomplished. Ex., without 'sling shot' orbiting calculations and subsequent executions based upon globe earth theory, we wouldn't have any of the NASA stuff that has occurred. Now whether you believe any of the NASA stuff has actually occurred, that's a different story. But the bottomline, NASA is and never has been sole authority, nor voice, that the earth is round.
Alan Shepard reached an altitude of 187 km that same year...althaugh only for 15 minutes.
Both are at an altitude that makes it impossible to see the globe in it’s entirety !
Not by along shot.
But within 8,5 years America puts a man on the moon and safely return to earth after the Baron report showed that the whole programm was in abysmal state all together in 1966-1967.
So within 2-3 years NASA did everything right.
All sling shots and orbital mechanics derived from few explorations worked flawlessly and they gave us a nice blue marble picture.
Of course NASA is on top of the pyramid that sold us the heliocentric lies !
Sure some development is different compared to others.Ahem...... we got off to space in the late fifties and Gagarin in the Vostok 1 was the first human being to look down towards earth from a modest height orbiting earth.For the same reason, God would not have allowed any crime to occur. However crime still occurs. This is not because God is not good, or because God is not almighty, but because the sins of the world is a necessity for free will, abd forcibly removing evils, would remove free will inevitably.
So god can detest the NASA and the Freemasons all he wants b/c they are the work of Satan, but damnit, he does nothing b/c of that damn 'freewill' clause? Lovely.
Back to matter at hand, NASA is not the claimant that the earth is round. If anything, NASA has used all of the tenets of heliocentric globe earth theory to accomplish the things they have claimed to have accomplished. Ex., without 'sling shot' orbiting calculations and subsequent executions based upon globe earth theory, we wouldn't have any of the NASA stuff that has occurred. Now whether you believe any of the NASA stuff has actually occurred, that's a different story. But the bottomline, NASA is and never has been sole authority, nor voice, that the earth is round.
Alan Shepard reached an altitude of 187 km that same year...althaugh only for 15 minutes.
Both are at an altitude that makes it impossible to see the globe in it’s entirety !
Not by along shot.
But within 8,5 years America puts a man on the moon and safely return to earth after the Baron report showed that the whole programm was in abysmal state all together in 1966-1967.
So within 2-3 years NASA did everything right.
All sling shots and orbital mechanics derived from few explorations worked flawlessly and they gave us a nice blue marble picture.
Of course NASA is on top of the pyramid that sold us the heliocentric lies !
Don't know dutchy, your guess is as good as mine. All I know is that, for instance, and I know this is an abstraction, the iphone came out in 2008. Within a few years, I could summon any amount of data, games, find my personal location with in a meter of where I was standing, hail a ride, order food, what have you, after a poke of a button or two and slip the device into my back pocket. I couldn't conceive of that 5 years earlier. Things happen rapidly, technology happens rapidly, especially under duress and competition and out and out "fear of the communists". Throw enough money and resources at a problem, problem probably solved. Now that's not equating necessarily to putting a man on the moon, granted. But I don't think an argument against doing extraordinary things in extraordinary times is that sound.
So what? An altitude of 187 km is certainly enough to see that the earth cannot be flat!Ahem...... we got off to space in the late fifties and Gagarin in the Vostok 1 was the first human being to look down towards earth from a modest height orbiting earth.
Back to matter at hand, NASA is not the claimant that the earth is round. If anything, NASA has used all of the tenets of heliocentric globe earth theory to accomplish the things they have claimed to have accomplished. Ex., without 'sling shot' orbiting calculations and subsequent executions based upon globe earth theory, we wouldn't have any of the NASA stuff that has occurred. Now whether you believe any of the NASA stuff has actually occurred, that's a different story. But the bottomline, NASA is and never has been sole authority, nor voice, that the earth is round.
Alan Shepard reached an altitude of 187 km that same year...althaugh only for 15 minutes.
Both are at an altitude that makes it impossible to see the globe in it’s entirety !
Not by along shot.
But within 8,5 years America puts a man on the moon and safely return to earth after the Baron report showed that the whole programm was in abysmal state all together in 1966-1967.And why do you think that the "Baron report showed that the whole programm was in abysmal state"?
When his indictments were finally aired before Teague's subcommittee, during a meeting at the Cape on 21 April, Baron's credibility was impaired by one of his alleged informants, a fellow North American employee named Mervin Holmburg. Holmburg denied knowing anything about the cause of the accident, although Baron had told the committee that Holmburg "knew exactly what caused the fire." Holmburg testified that Baron "gets all his information from anonymous phone calls, people calling him and people dropping him a word here and there. That is what he tells me."From Baron Report (1965-1966), AN APOLLO REPORTBYTHOMAS RONALD BARON, September 1965-November 1966 (https://history.nasa.gov/Apollo204/barron.html)
So within 2-3 years NASA did everything right.Have you ever bothered to read any of the tremendous amount of research, testing and development before Apollo? I guess not.
All sling shots and orbital mechanics derived from few explorations worked flawlessly and they gave us a nice blue marble picture.And why shouldn't they work flawlessly when "sling shots and orbital mechanics" were understood and utilised on numerous uncrewed lunar missions before Apollo?
Of course NASA is on top of the pyramid that sold us the heliocentric lies !That is another example of your totally ignorance.
Poor , poor rabinoz so far out of touch with the real world because of his ongoing NASA drugs.Poor, poor Dutchy so far out of touch with the real world because he simply can't comprehend how these things are done.
A formula 1 car needs to be tested on track countless of times....even when it is about a very minor change in hardware of any kind.They did the nearest equivalent to those things!
Countless of windtunnel tests with mixed results when put to the test in real life on a real track....
And the engine itself is running most of the year connected to a simulation programm to find ways to improve the capabilities of the engine.
But your few and very rare tests actually performed on the moon gave the scientists in the sixties enough data to perform all manouvres like 'rendezvous' , landing, ascending from the moon and re-entry...How could the test landing on the moon till the landed on the moon the first time? Are you a total idiot.
The amount of REAL test with REAL humans practicing REAL events equalls almost zero prior to Apollo 11.
It should take at least half a century and hundreds of probes and multiple failures to pull something off what NASA did in less than a decade ( man in orbit- man on the moon )Why? There were numerous unmanned probes beforehand but what would you know about such things anyway?
So please spare me the very limited list with extremely limited test data about the real moon that is never sufficiant enough to fly to the moon and somewhat knowing what you are doing in real time.No, I won't "spare you the very limited list" because you have no idea what you are talking about. Your stupid ideas about "at least half a century and hundreds of probes and multiple failures" just proves how out-of-touch you are with reality.
The amount of REAL tests with REAL humans practicing REAL events on the MOON equalls almost zero prior to Apollo 11.
The amount of REAL tests with REAL humans practicing REAL events on the MOON equalls almost zero prior to Apollo 11.
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Only if you promiss ( when having success with MY quote) that you throw a handfull of coins in 'me mum's basement' too ( iow i want a small chunk of the profits)The amount of REAL tests with REAL humans practicing REAL events on the MOON equalls almost zero prior to Apollo 11.
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Hey dutchy, would you be OK with me printing and selling T Shirts with this on it?
The amount of REAL tests with REAL humans practicing REAL events on the MOON equalls almost zero prior to Apollo 11.Don't you yet see the total stupidity of what you just posted?
maybe 'it' doesn't know you are trying to cross the forbidden zone and lets you pass " (Alan Bean and the VAB's)Look give up on your silly VAB excuses! Apollo was designed to handle them and it did with measured radiation doses below that even expected.
The amount of REAL tests with REAL humans practicing REAL events on the MOON equalls almost zero prior to Apollo 11.Don't you yet see the total stupidity of what you just posted?
Since Apollo 11 was the first human landing on the moon how could there ever be ANY "humans practicing REAL events on the MOON . . . . prior to Apollo 11".
There had to be a first time and Apollo 11 was it!
Dutchy, I think you are really scratching the bottom of the barrel for inane excuses now.Quote from: dutchymaybe 'it' doesn't know you are trying to cross the forbidden zone and lets you pass " (Alan Bean and the VAB's)Look give up on your silly VAB excuses! Apollo was designed to handle them and it did with measured radiation doses below that even expected.
Of course you think that you're smarter and know more about the Van Allen Belts the Dr James Van Allen himself - but you don't so shut up about it!
The amount of REAL tests with REAL humans practicing REAL events on the MOON equalls almost zero prior to Apollo 11.Don't you yet see the total stupidity of what you just posted?
Since Apollo 11 was the first human landing on the moon how could there ever be ANY "humans practicing REAL events on the MOON . . . . prior to Apollo 11".
There had to be a first time and Apollo 11 was it!
Dutchy, I think you are really scratching the bottom of the barrel for inane excuses now.Quote from: dutchymaybe 'it' doesn't know you are trying to cross the forbidden zone and lets you pass " (Alan Bean and the VAB's)Look give up on your silly VAB excuses! Apollo was designed to handle them and it did with measured radiation doses below that even expected.
Of course you think that you're smarter and know more about the Van Allen Belts the Dr James Van Allen himself - but you don't so shut up about it!
Because it's staged duh! When you go to a theater, is the performance the first time any of the actors have played the show? It might be the first time they have played that show in front of an audience, but it would have taken them months to prepare and rehearse - just like the moon. 8)
It might be the first time they have played that show in front of an audience, but it would have taken them months to prepare and rehearse - just like the moon. 8)And they did practice for years, right back to the Gemini missions.
It might be the first time they have played that show in front of an audience, but it would have taken them months to prepare and rehearse - just like the moon. 8)And they did practice for years, right back to the Gemini missions.
And there were quite a number of earlier Apollo missions with Apollo 10 going through all the steps except for the final landing.
But they could not practice on the moon until they were on the moon ::).
And that first landing was Apollo 11.
Did you watch the movie Interstellar rab? They actually reveal the truth in there. Here is part of the storySo you get your truth from fictional films, dutchy gets his from flatardian and lunar hoaxer videos and many flat-earthers get theirs from a quack cure salesman, figures.
Teacher: It's an old federal textbook. We've replaced them with the corrected versions.
Cooper: Corrected?
Teacher: Explaining how the Apollo missions were faked to bankrupt the Soviet Union.
Cooper: You don't believe we went to the Moon?
Teacher: I believe it was a brilliant piece of propaganda that the Soviets bankrupted themselves pouring resources into rockets and other useless machines.
Eavesdropping on Apollo 11
The nearly forgotten story of how a radio amateur successfully detected transmissions from the first men to land on the Moon.
In July of 1969 a ham radio operator and amateur radio-astronomer by the name of Larry Baysinger, W4EJA, accomplished an amazing feat. He independently detected radio transmissions from the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface. Fortunately, his accomplishments were recorded by Glenn Rutherford, a young reporter for the Louisville (Kentucky) Courier-Journal. “Lunar Eavesdropping: Louisvillians hear moon walk talk on homemade equipment,” sporting Rutherford’s byline, appeared in the Wednesday, July 23, 1969 issue of that paper — front page of section B, the local news section (see Figure 1). (http://www.arrl.org/images/view/AWE/Graney/Figure2b.jpg)
Figure 1
Larry at the receiver
Rutherford opened the Courier story with “Thanks to some homemade electronic equipment, including a rebuilt 20 year old radio receiver from an Army tank (see Figure 2) and an antenna made of spare pieces of aluminum, nylon cord and chicken wire (see Figure 3 and 4), a small band of Louisvillians was able to ‘eavesdrop’ Sunday (July 20) night on the American astronauts’ conversation directly from the moon.”
(http://www.arrl.org/images/view/AWE/Graney/LB001.jpg)
Figure 2, The Antenna(http://www.arrl.org/images/view/AWE/Graney/LB002_SSA1.jpg)
Figure 3, Antenna Design
The story discussed how Baysinger recorded 35 minutes of conversation from VHF signals transmitted between astronauts Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins (he did not attempt to pick up the encoded S-band signals from the main Moon-Earth communication link).1 These 35 minutes included the time during which President Richard Nixon transmitted a message of congratulations to the astronauts.
Rutherford’s story briefly mentioned how Baysinger had been previously successful in constructing a device to detect radio signals from Jupiter and in tracking and reproducing pictures transmitted from Earth-orbiting satellites. It briefly described the antenna used for the lunar eavesdropping project — a fully steerable 8 × 12 foot “corner horn” — and it briefly discussed the amazing sensitivity of the receiver, which Baysinger specially modified for the lunar eavesdropping project. Rutherford finished the story with “Needless to say, the receiver worked to perfection Sunday night.”
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Lunar Eavesdropping Link
More information on Larry’s lunar eavesdropping, including some audio clips, can be found on Christopher Graney’s Otter Creek-South Harrison Observatory Web page, Lunar Eavesdropping In Louisville, Kentucky (http://observatory.jctcfaculty.org/).
Read a lot more in: ARRL, the national association for Amateur Radio, (http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11)
It might be the first time they have played that show in front of an audience, but it would have taken them months to prepare and rehearse - just like the moon. 8)And they did practice for years, right back to the Gemini missions.
And there were quite a number of earlier Apollo missions with Apollo 10 going through all the steps except for the final landing.
But they could not practice on the moon until they were on the moon ::).
And that first landing was Apollo 11.
Did you watch the movie Interstellar rab? They actually reveal the truth in there. Here is part of the story
Teacher: It's an old federal textbook. We've replaced them with the corrected versions.
Cooper: Corrected?
Teacher: Explaining how the Apollo missions were faked to bankrupt the Soviet Union.
Cooper: You don't believe we went to the Moon?
Teacher: I believe it was a brilliant piece of propaganda that the Soviets bankrupted themselves pouring resources into rockets and other useless machines.
Did you watch the movie Interstellar rab? They actually reveal the truth in there. Here is part of the story
Teacher: It's an old federal textbook. We've replaced them with the corrected versions.
Cooper: Corrected?
Teacher: Explaining how the Apollo missions were faked to bankrupt the Soviet Union.
Cooper: You don't believe we went to the Moon?
Teacher: I believe it was a brilliant piece of propaganda that the Soviets bankrupted themselves pouring resources into rockets and other useless machines.
It is really hard to believe Soviets or today Russians gone to space somewheres. If you open any Russian ordinary city in google map or yandex, so you'll feel yourself in the date of 1960's or 70's after see a few cars. And some cities in Russia still seems are very primative.
[/quoteIt is really hard to believe Soviets or today Russians gone to space somewheres. If you open any Russian ordinary city in google map or yandex, so you'll feel yourself in the date of 1960's or 70's after see a few cars. And some cities in Russia still seems are very primative.
Have you ever been to Turkey? Some parts are so primitive, just like they were in the Middle Ages.
Okay i understand how happy you are when you finally find something which i could have said a bit different.It might be the first time they have played that show in front of an audience, but it would have taken them months to prepare and rehearse - just like the moon. 8)And they did practice for years, right back to the Gemini missions.
And there were quite a number of earlier Apollo missions with Apollo 10 going through all the steps except for the final landing.
But they could not practice on the moon until they were on the moon ::).
And that first landing was Apollo 11.
As a former test pilot, 50/50 was probably good enough in HIS mind!I don't believe that for a second, but i cannot read into the mind of Neil Armstrong the former test pilot.
Sorry, but I don't see where you showed that at all.So why thinks Neil Armstrong he has a 50-50 chance of actually touching the moon surface ?
A little research will show you the incredible level of testing and simulation they performed. Short of actually practiceing a manned landing on the moon, obviously! 🤣🤣
Well, he made it, after a small bit of drama concerning fuel, to the surface of the moon.Please elaborate about why Neil Armstrong says he believed he had a 50-50 chance of touching the moon while everything they needed to know about a safe moon landing was tested and understood in the years prior to Apollo according to rabinoz and appearently yourselves too?
So 5: DutChy Is da stupid!!
Who said "everything" was tested?Great that means you have a different opinion than rabinoz who claims ''they tested everything they HAD to know for a successfull moonlanding''
They tested all that they possibly could.
I will not waste my time with you, dUtcHy, do you blame me?
I will, however, laugh at you! 🤣
Get an entire population to believe a falsehood about their own world and you have great influence over them. If you can believe some ludicrous ideology about the Earth being a globe zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h (using some made up 'Great Attractor as a reference' you will have them believe anything regardless of what their own eyes say otherwise.
That's an interesting hypothesis that has no basis in fact.
Exactly. The Earth zooming around the universe at over 2 million km/h, NO basis in fact whatsoever. Thank you for affirming. And what of us Australians? Are we hanging by our feet as we zoom around the universe? Everywhere I have been on this planet, from Canberra to Reykjavik, I have felt the exact same orientation. The ground beneath me and the sky above me.
"Neil Armstrong says he believed he had a 50-50 chance of touching the moon" but he did not say that he had a 50-50 chance of returning alive.Well, he made it, after a small bit of drama concerning fuel, to the surface of the moon.Please elaborate about why Neil Armstrong says he believed he had a 50-50 chance of touching the moon while everything they needed to know about a safe moon landing was tested and understood in the years prior to Apollo according to rabinoz and appearently yourselves too?
So 5: DutChy Is da stupid!!
Is this some sort of logic derived from a different dimension that i fail to understand ?
Btw , why did you sneek out of the topic where i presented that Neil Armstrong said he had a 50-50 chance of actually landing the lander on the moon ?( very much contradictory to your ‘they were on top of every possible circomstances because of superb testing prior to Apollo 11)
Laugh away if that's what makes you happy, but you've nothing to laugh at!I will not waste my time with you, dUtcHy, do you blame me?Great that means you have a different opinion than rabinoz who claims ''they tested everything they HAD to know for a successfull moonlanding''
I will, however, laugh at you! 🤣
And i imagine no one thinks a 50-50 chance of proper landing is all you need to know.
Now i laugh at you for leaving such a huge gap for me to poke holes in.,.....
Go back and take your losses for once. << Idiotic garbage ignored! >>What losses? I see no losses.