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Title: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 26, 2018, 01:07:00 AM
If we assume that the world continues beyond antarctica that many of us believe this; so; it may be:

The color of outside world is red or something like this.

When sun rising, or sun setting, it is important its distance to the outer world. If it stays near while rising or setting, the outer areas illuminated by sun are reflected on the dome. And their red colour seem on the dome.

This alternative theory must be controlled according to whether the sun has sunk and where the places of rising are near or far from the outer world.

Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 26, 2018, 01:22:16 AM
What would cause this red light?
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 26, 2018, 01:28:04 AM
What would cause this red light?

I use my deny right to reply you during you use the face of baphomet.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 26, 2018, 01:45:55 AM
I'm going to add some son rising and sun setting pictures from videos published in youtube, from different places.

I'll add them with their place and date. So that, considering the sun's positions, we will try to make a comment does it relevant with sun's distance to outer worlds or not.

Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 26, 2018, 01:58:37 AM
What would cause this red light?

I use my deny right to reply you during you use the face of baphomet.

Too bad but I respect your right.

Also, my avatar is a llama and not a goat so technically it couldn’t be Baphomet.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 26, 2018, 02:07:23 AM
What a chance almost all of them from India or around it. We need other places too. I do not want India anymore, please.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/bejayx.png)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2j5fe48.png)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/dpzslz.png)
(http://i68.tinypic.com/vsibg4.png)

Two img from same video (for date/place)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/1238qhs.png)
(http://i65.tinypic.com/xc4xex.png)
(http://i67.tinypic.com/29pd7jk.png)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/11rpxl0.png)
(http://i65.tinypic.com/10dwpdl.png)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/nqdxs3.png)
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2zrgfau.png)

At last, someone from out of India. Thanks God.

To be continued...

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(http://i67.tinypic.com/auh9qp.png)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/rvxe8g.png)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/b4dsh5.png)

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2qd9404.png)

(http://i.hizliresim.com/Y6RZzA.png)

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2f07r4w.png)

(http://i.hizliresim.com/EDM9vv.png)

(http://i.hizliresim.com/lZR5MB.png)

(http://i66.tinypic.com/s6qers.png)

(http://i.hizliresim.com/AzPr9z.png)
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 26, 2018, 06:00:46 AM
We'll examine the results under the light of this sun rising video, and try to find out a solve.



soon...
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 26, 2018, 07:15:00 AM
Oh no, I have no autocad on this computer. Anyway, I'll examine them in office at weekdays.

Cities/places will be examined in terms of; point of sun rising, point of sun setting, with distances to the outer line.

With overlapping a sunrise point to its distance to outer line; compared with the color of sunset or sunrising will give us an idea about the reason of the changing the color of the sky.

Cities will be examined (yet):

Batapla Beach, India
Kanyakumari, India
Tiger Hill, India, near Nepal
Colachel beach, India
Stayton Oregon, USA
Oklahoma, USA
Oslo
Nairobi
Yeysk, Rus
Antalya, Turkey
Luanda
Melbourne, Tasmania
Andes mountain, Chile
Dockland campus, London

We can add new cities to this list, when required.

We can use flat map and/or google map values seperated or together with taking average of them. Distance is important for this working. but the colors are not so definitive and a few mistakes are acceptable. so that we can use which one we find easier.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: boydster on August 26, 2018, 07:42:04 AM
Can we add Caribou, Maine, USA to the list? It's about as far Northeast as you can get without leaving the US. And maybe also Tampa, Florida, USA, for comparison between the North and the South along the Eastern US coastline.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 26, 2018, 09:01:05 AM
And another suggestion: Base Orcada on Antarctica 👍🏼
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 26, 2018, 02:58:51 PM
Can we add Caribou, Maine, USA to the list? It's about as far Northeast as you can get without leaving the US. And maybe also Tampa, Florida, USA, for comparison between the North and the South along the Eastern US coastline.

In order to adding them, you should add a reference video or photo contains time/photo proves the sunrising or sunsetting color. I'm adding only cities where somebody took there a video with showing place and time with the video while sun rising or sun setting. Because I have prove the coupling of city/ date and sunrising or setting time with something.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 27, 2018, 09:06:47 AM
Indian cities and one other are eliminated. Selected cities:

bapatla beach india 20 july 2018, sun rising
stayton oregon 9 agu 2018, 6:50am sun rising
oklahoma, sun setting, 20 agu 2018
oslo, september sunset
yeysk, krasnodar, sunset 24 july 2018
antalya, 19.08.2018, sun rising
luanda, sunset, 28 feb 2018
melbourne, 18 march 2015, sunset
andes mountain, chile, sun rising,24 june 2009
dockland campus, london, 2 march 2018 sun rising

(https://image.ibb.co/mZRJJU/antalya1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/fvRUQ9/antalya2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/byssdU/antes1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/b6M7Cp/antes2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/fXs8JU/bapatla1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/i9HayU/bapatla2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/ehbPsp/krasnodar1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/fWATJU/krasnodar2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/dNKzQ9/london1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/bAb2dU/london2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/bGr2dU/luanda1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/ekmDk9/luanda2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/neJR59/melbourne1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/dZ3hdU/melbourne2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/f3Y4sp/oklahoma1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/kjUYk9/oklahoma2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/kXLvyU/oregon1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/mwF659/oregon2.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/hzbqXp/oslo1.png)
(https://image.ibb.co/caJhdU/oslo2.png)

We'll match the distances of the sun between estimated outer world to sunrising photos. But before do that, we need some extrem cities to be examined. Extrem examples make our work more meaningfull.

To be continued...
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 27, 2018, 10:34:07 AM
Can I say something?

Edit: nevermind
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 27, 2018, 12:22:14 PM
Ranking from closer to further.

Measurements show distance from sun to outer line (pre agreed dome line) from the point of view.

In other say, these numbers are not distance between city and sun. These numbers distance of sun and dome point where is background of the sound according to point of view. (for more information look the autocad drawings above)

Luanda   4051
Oslo   7319
London   7715
Krasnodar   7998
Oregon   8270
Oklahoma   8973
Melbourne   9891
Antalya   10322
Bapatla   11122
Andes mountains   12157

Pairing

Luanda   4051
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2f07r4w.png)


Oslo   7319
(http://i66.tinypic.com/rvxe8g.png)


London   7715
(https://i.hizliresim.com/AzPr9z.png)


Krasnodar   7998
(http://i67.tinypic.com/2qd9404.png)


Oregon   8270
(http://i66.tinypic.com/nqdxs3.png)


Oklahoma   8973
(http://i66.tinypic.com/28hid91.png)


Melbourne   9891
(https://i.hizliresim.com/lZR5MB.png)


Antalya   10322
(https://i.hizliresim.com/Y6RZzA.png)


Bapatla   11122
(http://i64.tinypic.com/bejayx.png)


Andes mountains   12157
(http://i66.tinypic.com/s6qers.png)

Commends:

To be continued...
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 27, 2018, 12:44:58 PM
The first thing takes our interest that, decreasing the distance causes more sharp colors.

This is Luanda, sun closest the outside dome/outer world.
(http://i68.tinypic.com/2f07r4w.png)

This is second closer city the outer line, Oslo.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/rvxe8g.png)

the different colors are due to the different worlds in the background. this is not our matter for now.

This is the furthest sun position to the outer world:

Andes Mountains. In this picture we see outer world almost colorless, almost white.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/s6qers.png)

This is because, not so close to the dome as to reflect the shadow of the outer world in the background.

the colors there may be expressing different civilizations in the background. for example, if there is an antarctic zone between south america and south africa in the background, yellowish tones appear. This is because outer world beyond south America-south Africa perhaps a yellow world.

we will try to test the validity of these theories by increasing the number of cities. For now that is all.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: sokarul on August 28, 2018, 07:05:38 AM
Red sky at night, sailor’s delight. Red sky at morn, sailor’s warning.

If the sky is red or not is not an indication of anything related to this thread. It relates to weather.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 28, 2018, 08:40:00 AM
stfuimao.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 28, 2018, 09:45:11 AM
This thread is golden
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 28, 2018, 10:17:16 AM
stand out of my sunlight.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 28, 2018, 11:18:44 AM
Yes sir o7
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 28, 2018, 01:05:28 PM
I can not provide a regular working environment recent days. This is because our  IT has preventing every types of foreign/non reliable source that we can connect, including the flat earth society, youtube, twitter, facebook, wikipedia is already forbid in country, etc. We can almost only connect to sites whose have extension of ".gov". Under these circumstances, It was very difficult to do research. I do research in the evening, but there is no AutoCAD here. I have AutoCAD on my computer that I use during the day, but I can not research from there . I work in AutoCAD with datas which I have researched last night. I did the above work like this. but it is not easy to get mixed up and coordinated. I write the data here but I can not access them during daytime. I have to do researches only night but I have not enough time for to do enough researches, because time of work is less in nights.

in short recent days I can not conclude with technical reasons. but I hope I will create a solution to this problem.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: sokarul on August 28, 2018, 02:53:32 PM
stfuimao.

It’s not my fault you did zero research before starting this thread.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 28, 2018, 10:32:31 PM
Autocad free trial. Problem solved.

https://www.autodesk.com/products/autocad/free-trial

Now you don’t have to waste company time to work on your earth-shattering research.

You’re welcome.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 29, 2018, 01:35:39 AM
Gtfoh. Stop to follow me you two useless. Write his topics who happy with your posts. I am not, I am angry with you. I don't like anything about you. Gtfo.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: Lamaface on August 29, 2018, 05:36:30 AM
I understand and I am truly sorry.

I was only trying to be helpful by solving a problem you had.

I will now return to my lair.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: sokarul on August 29, 2018, 07:52:34 AM
Gtfoh. Stop to follow me you two useless. Write his topics who happy with your posts. I am not, I am angry with you. I don't like anything about you. Gtfo.
For someone with an self proclaimed IQ of 160, it’s strange you have learned zero English words. Maybe the 1 was a typo.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 29, 2018, 12:21:08 PM
Maybe I do not give a much value to English. Maybe this situation increases people's curiosity about learning my language. maybe it would be better if I had the level of English, then the name of 2 people outside of me would not be Turkish. Maybe this is a sign of an IQ more than you have. Anyway.

I don't want to get deal with you. Gtfo.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: sokarul on August 29, 2018, 01:40:39 PM
And with that this thread can be moved to complete nonsense. You have no willingness to learn anything.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 30, 2018, 12:37:05 AM
And with that this thread can be moved to complete nonsense. You have no willingness to learn anything.

Surely sandokhan. As you wish.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on August 31, 2018, 12:57:38 AM
2nd group Selected cities, in month of January, for sunrising or sun setting: (I hope we can find someone intetest the sun rising or setting photos over there)

- Anchorage
- fairbanks (if exist)
- whitehorse (or somewhere in Yukon)
- baker lake (or somewhere in Nunavut)
- nuuk
- rejkavik
- stockholm
- helsinki
- st. Petersburg
- yakutsk
- Tiksi (or somewhere in upper lena)


Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on September 01, 2018, 12:58:11 AM
Anchorage

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2d8i5fs.png)
21 December 2012, sun rising.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/sw33o9.png)
16 April 2018, sun rising (livescream=most truthful)

(http://i65.tinypic.com/zy7lhk.png)
7 sept 2014, sun setting

Fairbanks

(http://i67.tinypic.com/29q0746.png)
21 December 2012, sun rising

(http://i66.tinypic.com/29qgjh1.png)
28 December 2009, sun rising

(http://i67.tinypic.com/10nyy45.png)
28 December 2009, sun setting

whitehorse

(http://i68.tinypic.com/dxn3tc.png)
9 July 2011, Midnight sun at 1AM

(http://i66.tinypic.com/j0l0ft.png)
25 June 2009, sunsetting

(http://i65.tinypic.com/s4c0b5.png)
22 May 2008, sun setting
By comparison the standarts in 2008, really a good quality video. (480k)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/2nm272t.png)
19 Jan 2014, sun rising

(http://i64.tinypic.com/3307p5z.png)
5 July 2015, terrific sun setting

Baker Lake

(http://i65.tinypic.com/29ctpj6.png)
22 July 2017, sunset. It is terrible I'm the second viewer of this video. perhaps the first one was its owner.


nuuk

(http://i67.tinypic.com/rjqqtw.png)
21 November 2016, red sunset

Rejkavik

(http://i68.tinypic.com/111s6qd.png)
15 July 2015, Rejkavik sun rising

Stockholm

(http://i67.tinypic.com/iddlw6.png)
Stockholm sunrising 28 November 2017

(http://Helsinki)
(http://i64.tinypic.com/a2u046.png)
28 December 2016 sunrising

St. Petersburg
(http://i67.tinypic.com/1g5641.png)
September 30,2015 sun rising.

Yakutsk
(http://i65.tinypic.com/zkfw4z.png)
Sunset Yakutsk, 9 June 2016

Tiksi

Could not be found.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: sokarul on September 02, 2018, 02:24:35 PM
Red sky is weather related, still.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sky_at_morning
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: wise on September 02, 2018, 10:14:35 PM
Continue with some equatoral cities while equinox. This will give us to understand what happens if the background stays far to outer world.
Title: Re: Alternative red while sunrising and sunsetting
Post by: SadPhysicist on September 05, 2018, 07:07:23 PM
The red sky is caused by long wavelength red light scattering through more atmosphere due to the sun being at a lower glancing angle... Its why you get all the pretty colours at sunrise too.

No conspiracy. Promise.