The Flat Earth Society
Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth General => Topic started by: Nicci on May 23, 2018, 03:32:36 AM
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I’m really curious about this, not attacking. Just want to see the math and logic :) prove your point to me. So Nasa would have to pay about 100 independent space related companies in the world to keep quiet, they would also have to pay every plane and shipping company in the world. They would have pay all companies / countries that have telescopes, heck even amateur astronomers with access to a decent telescope. They would have to pay all governments in the world to ensure their education systems teach the round earth theory. They would have to pay all scientists around the world, which don't come cheap. Now I don’t know how much they make each year, but dang son I’ll be damned if it’s a fraction of what is needed to pay all these people off, especially if lots of the money they have goes to movie productions, film sets and props.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Baron
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Baron
Yeah NASA made him place his car on the railroad tracks.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Baron
Yeah NASA made him place his car on the railroad tracks.
That article fails to mention that the 500 page report was destroyed shortly after the "Accident".
https://www.gaia.com/lp/content/the-apollo-1-conspiracy-did-nasa-covered-up-gus-grissoms-death/
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Baron
Yeah NASA made him place his car on the railroad tracks.
That article fails to mention that the 500 page report was destroyed shortly after the "Accident".
https://www.gaia.com/lp/content/the-apollo-1-conspiracy-did-nasa-covered-up-gus-grissoms-death/
http://www.clavius.org/baron.html
The report likely wasn't destroyed. It probably wasn't even as important as conspirators make it out to be. NASA couldn't have destroyed it because they never had custody of it, Congress did.
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
The Saturn V blueprints weren't all destroyed. A lot of the papers still exist in archives.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/20302/were-the-saturn-v-construction-plans-destroyed
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-NASA-lost-the-plans-for-the-Saturn-V-rocket-If-so-how-is-it-possible
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
NASA also accidentally destroyed all of the original "moon landings" films. I am starting see a pattern here.
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
The Saturn V blueprints weren't all destroyed. A lot of the papers still exist in archives.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/20302/were-the-saturn-v-construction-plans-destroyed
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-NASA-lost-the-plans-for-the-Saturn-V-rocket-If-so-how-is-it-possible
I'm going to need to start putting /sarcasm after my posts.
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
NASA also accidentally destroyed all of the original "moon landings" films. I am starting see a pattern here.
Telemetry tapes are not the same as moon landing films. There is plenty of film from all of the moon landings.
http://www.apolloarchive.com/
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/index.html
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
The Saturn V blueprints weren't all destroyed. A lot of the papers still exist in archives.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/20302/were-the-saturn-v-construction-plans-destroyed
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-NASA-lost-the-plans-for-the-Saturn-V-rocket-If-so-how-is-it-possible
I'm going to need to start putting /sarcasm after my posts.
We use green text for sarcasm.
(really, not being sarcastic. ;))
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
The Saturn V blueprints weren't all destroyed. A lot of the papers still exist in archives.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/20302/were-the-saturn-v-construction-plans-destroyed
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-NASA-lost-the-plans-for-the-Saturn-V-rocket-If-so-how-is-it-possible
I'm going to need to start putting /sarcasm after my posts.
We use green text for sarcasm.
(really, not being sarcastic. ;))
That sounds like unnecessary effort.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
Some bedtime reading for you. There have been many deaths attributed to NASA. These are just the ones made public. There are probably many more skeletons in the closets of NASA
31 October 1964 - Theodore Freeman was killed in the crash of a T-38 at Ellington AFB near Houston. The aircraft crashed after it was struck by a snow goose. The impact caused pieces of the canopy to enter both engines. He ejected, but was too low for his parachute to deploy completely.
28 February 1966 - Charles Bassett and Elliot See, who were the prime crew for Gemini 9, were killed in the crash of a T-38 in St. Louis, MO.
27 January 1967; Apollo 1 - Astronauts Roger Chaffee, Virgil Grissom (Mercury 4 and Gemini 3), and Edward White (Gemini 4) were killed at Cape Kennedy during a training exercise for the Apollo 1 mission. The crew died as a result of a fire within the spacecraft cabin.
6 June 1967 - Edward Givens was killed in an automobile accident near Houston, TX.
5 October 1967 - Clifton Williams was killed in the crash of a T-38 near Tallahassee, FL.
15 November 1967 X-15 - Michael J. Adams was killed after the vehicle departed from controlled flight and experienced an inflight breakup. Adams, who was also a USAF astronaut candidate for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory program, was posthumously awarded the USAF Astronaut Badge because the accident flight exceeded 50 miles (80 km) in altitude.
While the current incarnation of the Astronaut Badge is awarded by NASA and US military organizations for flights above 100 km (the internationally recognized boundary of space), at the time of Adam's crash, NASA and the USAF awarded the badge for flights above 50 miles. Six other X-15 pilots besides Adams qualified for the Astronaut Badge for reaching altitudes between 50 miles and 100 km. One X-15 pilot, Joe Walker flew higher than 100 km in the X-15 on two occasions in 1963, making him the first person to fly into space twice. The X-15 program was jointly managed by NASA and USAF.
8 December 1967 - Robert H. Lawrence, Jr. was killed in the crash of F-104 Starfighter at Edwards AFB, CA. He was killed in a training flight where he was acting as an instructor pilot where the aircraft was simulating a steep glide technique of the type that was later used for the Space Shuttle. At the time of his death, he was a USAF astronaut candidate in the Manned Orbiting Laboratory (MOL) program, which had planned to use small space stations as reconnaissance platforms. That program was cancelled in 1969, and seven members of the MOL program eventually flew on the Space Shuttle.
28 January 1986; Space Shuttle Challenger (STS-51L): Cold launch temperatures contributed to a failure of O-rings on one of the solid rocket motors. As a result of this failure, hot exhaust gases escaped out of the side of the solid rocket motor that in turn led to a major structural failure of the launch vehicle about 73 seconds after liftoff. All seven crew members were killed. The crew members were:
Gregory Jarvis, Christa McAuliffe ,
Ronald McNair (STS 41-B),
Ellison Onizuka (STS 51-C),
Judith Resnik (STS 41-D),
Francis Scobee (STS 41-C), and Michael Smith.
NASA Information on the Challenger Accident
Report on cause of death of crew
NASA audio from the Challenger launch
President Ronald Reagan's Challenger speech
Rogers Commission accident report
24 May 1986 - Stephen Thorne was killed when the Pitts Special aircraft in which he was riding crashed in Santa Fe, TX. His flight was unrelated to any NASA project.
17 June 1989 - S. David Griggs (STS 51-D) was killed in a vintage WWII aircraft while practicing for an air show in Earle, AR. His flight was unrelated to any NASA project.
5 April 1991 - Sonny Carter (STS 33) was killed in an airliner crash involving an Atlantic Southeast Airlines Brasilia aircraft. The crash occurred while Carter was traveling on NASA business.
22 May 2001 - Patricia Robertson and her flight instructor were killed as a result of injuries sustained in a plane crash. She was on a training flight that was not related to any NASA project.
1 February 2003; Space Shuttle Columbia ( STS-107), over northeast Texas: Columbia was in the re-entry phase of flight after a 16-day mission and its intended destination was the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Communications with the shuttle were lost at about 9 a.m. local time. At the time of the most catastrophic phase of the breakup, the spacecraft was at an altitude of about 203,000 feet (approx. 39 mi. or 63 km) and was traveling at about Mach 18 (roughly 12,500 mph or 20,000 kph).
While most of the debris landed in northeast Texas and western Louisiana, especially the area around the town of Nacagdoches (Knack-a-doe-chess), the breakup very likely began further west, possibly before the spacecraft passed over California. All seven astronauts on board the spacecraft were killed. The crew members were:
Michael Anderson (STS-89), David Brown,
Kalpana Chawla (STS-87), Laurel Clark,
Rick Husband (STS-96), William McCool, and Ilan Ramon.
Columbia Accident Investigation Board (CAIB) report
31 October 2014; SpaceShipTwo; near Cantil, CA - Michael Alsbury, a civilian test pilot for the Scaled Composites company, was killed during a flight test of the SpaceShipTwo near Mojave, CA. The spacecraft, which was being developed for the Virgin Galactic company for use in commercial suborbital space flights, was on a test flight to evaluate the performance of its rocket engine.
Shortly after SpaceShipTwo was launched from its carrier aircraft, an apparent early deployment of a speed control system led to an inflight breakup. The other crew member, Peter Siebold, was able to parachute to safety
Siebold is the second person to survive a mishap that resulted in the loss of a space vehicle, with the first being astronaut Virgil (Gus) Grissom who survived the sinking of his Mercury 4 capsule. Siebold is also the first person to survive a fatal space vehicle mishap.
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The stress and corruption even affects their posterboys: astronauts. Many of them crack and become mentally insane.
I would highly advise checking to make sure your neighbors are not astronauts when moving into a new house. You are just begging to become a part of a crime ring then. It is a very simple question to ask about your neighbors on the closing date and it will allow you to feel like your family can live in relative safety. If you are an employer, I would suggest throwing away the application of anyone who has work history as an astronaut straight into the garbage receptacle. A safe work environment should be a key concern for any boss and there's no better way to accomplish this than by having an astronaut free business.
Take for example the diaper wearing astronaut charged with attempted murder many years ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/06/us/06cnd-astronaut.html
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
The Saturn V blueprints weren't all destroyed. A lot of the papers still exist in archives.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/20302/were-the-saturn-v-construction-plans-destroyed
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-NASA-lost-the-plans-for-the-Saturn-V-rocket-If-so-how-is-it-possible
I'm going to need to start putting /sarcasm after my posts.
We use green text for sarcasm.
(really, not being sarcastic. ;))
That sounds like unnecessary effort.
I know right?! You must select your text and click green. It leaves me exhausted every time!
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Definitely unnecessary. I'll just continue as I was. If someone doesn't get it, oh well.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Baron
Yeah NASA made him place his car on the railroad tracks.
That article fails to mention that the 500 page report was destroyed shortly after the "Accident".
https://www.gaia.com/lp/content/the-apollo-1-conspiracy-did-nasa-covered-up-gus-grissoms-death/
After Congress reviewed it. After the people it was meant for read it. So how is that a problem again?
If it was actually destroyed at all.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
Some bedtime reading for you. There have been many deaths attributed to NASA. These are just the ones made public. There are probably many more skeletons in the closets of NASA
31 October 1964 - Theodore Freeman was killed in the crash of a T-38 at Ellington AFB near Houston. The aircraft crashed after it was struck by a snow goose. The impact caused pieces of the canopy to enter both engines. He ejected, but was too low for his parachute to deploy completely.
28 February 1966 - Charles Bassett and Elliot See, who were the prime crew for Gemini 9, were killed in the crash of a T-38 in St. Louis, MO.
27 January 1967; Apollo 1 - Astronauts Roger Chaffee, Virgil Grissom (Mercury 4 and Gemini 3), and Edward White (Gemini 4) were killed at Cape Kennedy during a training exercise for the Apollo 1 mission. The crew died as a result of a fire within the spacecraft cabin.
6 June 1967 - Edward Givens was killed in an automobile accident near Houston, TX.
5 October 1967 - Clifton Williams was killed in the crash of a T-38 near Tallahassee, FL.
15 November 1967 X-15 - Michael J. Adams was killed after the vehicle departed from controlled flight and experienced an inflight breakup. Adams, who was also a USAF astronaut candidate for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory program, was posthumously awarded the USAF Astronaut Badge because the accident flight exceeded 50 miles (80 km) in altitude.
While the current incarnation of the Astronaut Badge is awarded by NASA and US military organizations for flights above 100 km (the internationally recognized boundary of space), at the time of Adam's crash, NASA and the USAF awarded the badge for flights above 50 miles. Six other X-15 pilots besides Adams qualified for the Astronaut Badge for reaching altitudes between 50 miles and 100 km. One X-15 pilot, Joe Walker flew higher than 100 km in the X-15 on two occasions in 1963, making him the first person to fly into space twice. The X-15 program was jointly managed by NASA and USAF.
8 December 1967 - Robert H. Lawrence, Jr. was killed in the crash of F-104 Starfighter at Edwards AFB, CA. He was killed in a training flight where he was acting as an instructor pilot where the aircraft was simulating a steep glide technique of the type that was later used for the Space Shuttle. At the time of his death, he was a USAF astronaut candidate in the Manned Orbiting Laboratory (MOL) program, which had planned to use small space stations as reconnaissance platforms. That program was cancelled in 1969, and seven members of the MOL program eventually flew on the Space Shuttle.
28 January 1986; Space Shuttle Challenger (STS-51L): Cold launch temperatures contributed to a failure of O-rings on one of the solid rocket motors. As a result of this failure, hot exhaust gases escaped out of the side of the solid rocket motor that in turn led to a major structural failure of the launch vehicle about 73 seconds after liftoff. All seven crew members were killed. The crew members were:
Gregory Jarvis, Christa McAuliffe ,
Ronald McNair (STS 41-B),
Ellison Onizuka (STS 51-C),
Judith Resnik (STS 41-D),
Francis Scobee (STS 41-C), and Michael Smith.
NASA Information on the Challenger Accident
Report on cause of death of crew
NASA audio from the Challenger launch
President Ronald Reagan's Challenger speech
Rogers Commission accident report
24 May 1986 - Stephen Thorne was killed when the Pitts Special aircraft in which he was riding crashed in Santa Fe, TX. His flight was unrelated to any NASA project.
17 June 1989 - S. David Griggs (STS 51-D) was killed in a vintage WWII aircraft while practicing for an air show in Earle, AR. His flight was unrelated to any NASA project.
5 April 1991 - Sonny Carter (STS 33) was killed in an airliner crash involving an Atlantic Southeast Airlines Brasilia aircraft. The crash occurred while Carter was traveling on NASA business.
22 May 2001 - Patricia Robertson and her flight instructor were killed as a result of injuries sustained in a plane crash. She was on a training flight that was not related to any NASA project.
1 February 2003; Space Shuttle Columbia ( STS-107), over northeast Texas: Columbia was in the re-entry phase of flight after a 16-day mission and its intended destination was the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Communications with the shuttle were lost at about 9 a.m. local time. At the time of the most catastrophic phase of the breakup, the spacecraft was at an altitude of about 203,000 feet (approx. 39 mi. or 63 km) and was traveling at about Mach 18 (roughly 12,500 mph or 20,000 kph).
While most of the debris landed in northeast Texas and western Louisiana, especially the area around the town of Nacagdoches (Knack-a-doe-chess), the breakup very likely began further west, possibly before the spacecraft passed over California. All seven astronauts on board the spacecraft were killed. The crew members were:
Michael Anderson (STS-89), David Brown,
Kalpana Chawla (STS-87), Laurel Clark,
Rick Husband (STS-96), William McCool, and Ilan Ramon.
Columbia Accident Investigation Board (CAIB) report
31 October 2014; SpaceShipTwo; near Cantil, CA - Michael Alsbury, a civilian test pilot for the Scaled Composites company, was killed during a flight test of the SpaceShipTwo near Mojave, CA. The spacecraft, which was being developed for the Virgin Galactic company for use in commercial suborbital space flights, was on a test flight to evaluate the performance of its rocket engine.
Shortly after SpaceShipTwo was launched from its carrier aircraft, an apparent early deployment of a speed control system led to an inflight breakup. The other crew member, Peter Siebold, was able to parachute to safety
Siebold is the second person to survive a mishap that resulted in the loss of a space vehicle, with the first being astronaut Virgil (Gus) Grissom who survived the sinking of his Mercury 4 capsule. Siebold is also the first person to survive a fatal space vehicle mishap.
This is not evidence that NASA has people killed. This is just a log of people who happened to work for NASA being in accidents. I can show you a log of McDonalds employees that have been involved in accidents also. That doesn't mean that McDonalds is executing people.
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Why would they pay people to be quit when the threat of deaths works even better?
Feel free to share with us some evidence of NASA killing people to keep a secret that isn't a secret. You people are fucking nuts.
Some bedtime reading for you. There have been many deaths attributed to NASA. These are just the ones made public. There are probably many more skeletons in the closets of NASA
31 October 1964 - Theodore Freeman was killed in the crash of a T-38 at Ellington AFB near Houston. The aircraft crashed after it was struck by a snow goose. The impact caused pieces of the canopy to enter both engines. He ejected, but was too low for his parachute to deploy completely.
28 February 1966 - Charles Bassett and Elliot See, who were the prime crew for Gemini 9, were killed in the crash of a T-38 in St. Louis, MO.
27 January 1967; Apollo 1 - Astronauts Roger Chaffee, Virgil Grissom (Mercury 4 and Gemini 3), and Edward White (Gemini 4) were killed at Cape Kennedy during a training exercise for the Apollo 1 mission. The crew died as a result of a fire within the spacecraft cabin.
6 June 1967 - Edward Givens was killed in an automobile accident near Houston, TX.
5 October 1967 - Clifton Williams was killed in the crash of a T-38 near Tallahassee, FL.
15 November 1967 X-15 - Michael J. Adams was killed after the vehicle departed from controlled flight and experienced an inflight breakup. Adams, who was also a USAF astronaut candidate for the Manned Orbiting Laboratory program, was posthumously awarded the USAF Astronaut Badge because the accident flight exceeded 50 miles (80 km) in altitude.
While the current incarnation of the Astronaut Badge is awarded by NASA and US military organizations for flights above 100 km (the internationally recognized boundary of space), at the time of Adam's crash, NASA and the USAF awarded the badge for flights above 50 miles. Six other X-15 pilots besides Adams qualified for the Astronaut Badge for reaching altitudes between 50 miles and 100 km. One X-15 pilot, Joe Walker flew higher than 100 km in the X-15 on two occasions in 1963, making him the first person to fly into space twice. The X-15 program was jointly managed by NASA and USAF.
8 December 1967 - Robert H. Lawrence, Jr. was killed in the crash of F-104 Starfighter at Edwards AFB, CA. He was killed in a training flight where he was acting as an instructor pilot where the aircraft was simulating a steep glide technique of the type that was later used for the Space Shuttle. At the time of his death, he was a USAF astronaut candidate in the Manned Orbiting Laboratory (MOL) program, which had planned to use small space stations as reconnaissance platforms. That program was cancelled in 1969, and seven members of the MOL program eventually flew on the Space Shuttle.
28 January 1986; Space Shuttle Challenger (STS-51L): Cold launch temperatures contributed to a failure of O-rings on one of the solid rocket motors. As a result of this failure, hot exhaust gases escaped out of the side of the solid rocket motor that in turn led to a major structural failure of the launch vehicle about 73 seconds after liftoff. All seven crew members were killed. The crew members were:
Gregory Jarvis, Christa McAuliffe ,
Ronald McNair (STS 41-B),
Ellison Onizuka (STS 51-C),
Judith Resnik (STS 41-D),
Francis Scobee (STS 41-C), and Michael Smith.
NASA Information on the Challenger Accident
Report on cause of death of crew
NASA audio from the Challenger launch
President Ronald Reagan's Challenger speech
Rogers Commission accident report
24 May 1986 - Stephen Thorne was killed when the Pitts Special aircraft in which he was riding crashed in Santa Fe, TX. His flight was unrelated to any NASA project.
17 June 1989 - S. David Griggs (STS 51-D) was killed in a vintage WWII aircraft while practicing for an air show in Earle, AR. His flight was unrelated to any NASA project.
5 April 1991 - Sonny Carter (STS 33) was killed in an airliner crash involving an Atlantic Southeast Airlines Brasilia aircraft. The crash occurred while Carter was traveling on NASA business.
22 May 2001 - Patricia Robertson and her flight instructor were killed as a result of injuries sustained in a plane crash. She was on a training flight that was not related to any NASA project.
1 February 2003; Space Shuttle Columbia ( STS-107), over northeast Texas: Columbia was in the re-entry phase of flight after a 16-day mission and its intended destination was the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. Communications with the shuttle were lost at about 9 a.m. local time. At the time of the most catastrophic phase of the breakup, the spacecraft was at an altitude of about 203,000 feet (approx. 39 mi. or 63 km) and was traveling at about Mach 18 (roughly 12,500 mph or 20,000 kph).
While most of the debris landed in northeast Texas and western Louisiana, especially the area around the town of Nacagdoches (Knack-a-doe-chess), the breakup very likely began further west, possibly before the spacecraft passed over California. All seven astronauts on board the spacecraft were killed. The crew members were:
Michael Anderson (STS-89), David Brown,
Kalpana Chawla (STS-87), Laurel Clark,
Rick Husband (STS-96), William McCool, and Ilan Ramon.
Columbia Accident Investigation Board (CAIB) report
31 October 2014; SpaceShipTwo; near Cantil, CA - Michael Alsbury, a civilian test pilot for the Scaled Composites company, was killed during a flight test of the SpaceShipTwo near Mojave, CA. The spacecraft, which was being developed for the Virgin Galactic company for use in commercial suborbital space flights, was on a test flight to evaluate the performance of its rocket engine.
Shortly after SpaceShipTwo was launched from its carrier aircraft, an apparent early deployment of a speed control system led to an inflight breakup. The other crew member, Peter Siebold, was able to parachute to safety
Siebold is the second person to survive a mishap that resulted in the loss of a space vehicle, with the first being astronaut Virgil (Gus) Grissom who survived the sinking of his Mercury 4 capsule. Siebold is also the first person to survive a fatal space vehicle mishap.
This is not evidence that NASA has people killed. This is just a log of people who happened to work for NASA being in accidents. I can show you a log of McDonalds employees that have been involved in accidents also. That doesn't mean that McDonalds is executing people.
I can show you a long list of people associated with the Clintons who suffered untimely yet suspicious deaths. Are you saying they are all just coincidences?
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
NASA also accidentally destroyed all of the original "moon landings" films. I am starting see a pattern here.
They did not. They destroyed the high-def. copies of the 1st moon landing footage (and only the first landing). lower-res copies, the ones the public saw and have since been restored, are still available. 16mm film of the first moon landing also exists. And all video of all other landings exist as well (well, for 12 the camera kinda broke early on, but there's still 16mm film and the parts that remain of the camera).
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I can show you a long list of people associated with the Clintons who suffered untimely yet suspicious deaths. Are you saying they are all just coincidences?
Jroa, those are not mutually exclusive. The space business, as well as any flying, comes with a particular risk. Not because some government agency will kill you, but because these are machines with fuel flying much faster than any other manmade object. They have a possibility of malfunctioning. Human error could cause problems. The weather might cause problems. You can't say every death surrounding something means that the people were all killed.
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I can show you a long list of people associated with the Clintons who suffered untimely yet suspicious deaths. Are you saying they are all just coincidences?
Jroa, those are not mutually exclusive. The space business, as well as any flying, comes with a particular risk. Not because some government agency will kill you, but because these are machines with fuel flying much faster than any other manmade object. They have a possibility of malfunctioning. Human error could cause problems. The weather might cause problems. You can't say every death surrounding something means that the people were all killed.
A sabotaged o-ring was all it took to bring down the challenger in the 80's killing all on board.
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
NASA also accidentally destroyed all of the original "moon landings" films. I am starting see a pattern here.
They did not. They destroyed the high-def. copies of the 1st moon landing footage (and only the first landing). lower-res copies, the ones the public saw and have since been restored, are still available. 16mm film of the first moon landing also exists. And all video of all other landings exist as well (well, for 12 the camera kinda broke early on, but there's still 16mm film and the parts that remain of the camera).
Don't forget to mention the Apollo 11 footage that was recovered from an IBM contractors basement, as well as the pioneer and Helios missions. NASA sure has a nack for making problems disappear.
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I can show you a long list of people associated with the Clintons who suffered untimely yet suspicious deaths. Are you saying they are all just coincidences?
Jroa, those are not mutually exclusive. The space business, as well as any flying, comes with a particular risk. Not because some government agency will kill you, but because these are machines with fuel flying much faster than any other manmade object. They have a possibility of malfunctioning. Human error could cause problems. The weather might cause problems. You can't say every death surrounding something means that the people were all killed.
A sabotaged o-ring was all it took to bring down the challenger in the 80's killing all on board.
By sabotage, did you mean the cold weather spell that contributed to the failure of the O ring as described in the Rogers Commission Report ?
Like all flat earth conspiracy ideas they come with no proof.
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I can show you a long list of people associated with the Clintons who suffered untimely yet suspicious deaths. Are you saying they are all just coincidences?
Jroa, those are not mutually exclusive. The space business, as well as any flying, comes with a particular risk. Not because some government agency will kill you, but because these are machines with fuel flying much faster than any other manmade object. They have a possibility of malfunctioning. Human error could cause problems. The weather might cause problems. You can't say every death surrounding something means that the people were all killed.
A sabotaged o-ring was all it took to bring down the challenger in the 80's killing all on board.
By sabotage, did you mean the cold weather spell that contributed to the failure of the O ring as described in the Rogers Commission Report ?
Like all flat earth conspiracy ideas they come with no proof.
Oh so you believe the 'official' report. The one conducted in house by NASA themselves.... I see....
Funny how this 'cold weather spell' only affected one O ring.... It was more than likely someone tampered with the O ring to bring about a failure, but you believe what you want. NASA murdered those people on the Challenge, just like they murdered everyone else on that list. Neil, Buzz et al know how to shut up though. Perhaps the impending threat of death over their children keeps them from spilling the beans
The higher definition footage was destroyed because it was obvious with the higher resolution they were prancing around a set held up by wires. The lower quality version was all blurry and any questions about its authenticity can be blamed on its shit resolution.
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Was it destroyed with the Saturn V design.
NASA also accidentally destroyed all of the original "moon landings" films. I am starting see a pattern here.
They did not. They destroyed the high-def. copies of the 1st moon landing footage (and only the first landing). lower-res copies, the ones the public saw and have since been restored, are still available. 16mm film of the first moon landing also exists. And all video of all other landings exist as well (well, for 12 the camera kinda broke early on, but there's still 16mm film and the parts that remain of the camera).
The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
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I can show you a long list of people associated with the Clintons who suffered untimely yet suspicious deaths. Are you saying they are all just coincidences?
Jroa, those are not mutually exclusive. The space business, as well as any flying, comes with a particular risk. Not because some government agency will kill you, but because these are machines with fuel flying much faster than any other manmade object. They have a possibility of malfunctioning. Human error could cause problems. The weather might cause problems. You can't say every death surrounding something means that the people were all killed.
I think you meant not mutually inclusive, as in, "Just because the Clintons kill a lot of people, that does not mean that NASA does it too."
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Don't forget to mention the Apollo 11 footage that was recovered from an IBM contractors basement, as well as the pioneer and Helios missions. NASA sure has a nack for making problems disappear.
And they were still recovered, weren't they? And all of the footage exists in copies, doesn't it?
The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks.
Yet they didn't screw up.
At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
Only the first landing was in low quality, and that was the TV broadcast (which has since been heavily restored).
Apollo 11's 16mm film still exists in pristine condition, documenting nearly all of the EVA. The TV footage for all other missions (excluding 12 cause camera issues) still exists in very high quality, along with all other missions' 16mm footage.
I can show you a long list of people associated with the Clintons who suffered untimely yet suspicious deaths. Are you saying they are all just coincidences?
Jroa, those are not mutually exclusive. The space business, as well as any flying, comes with a particular risk. Not because some government agency will kill you, but because these are machines with fuel flying much faster than any other manmade object. They have a possibility of malfunctioning. Human error could cause problems. The weather might cause problems. You can't say every death surrounding something means that the people were all killed.
I think you meant not mutually inclusive, as in, "Just because the Clintons kill a lot of people, that does not mean that NASA does it too."
I guess, but that's my point. Spaceflight, or any flight, is much riskier. You also have no actual proof NASA killed any of them. Just speculation and theories
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In the case of the Challenger disaster, it was just another hoax.
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In the case of the Challenger disaster, it was just another hoax.
Do you have any proof of your ridiculous claims?
Read this! Are the Crew Members of 1986 Space Shuttle Challenger Explosion Still Alive? (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/false-crew-members-of-1986-space-shuttle-challenger-are-still-alive/)
If you bother reading you might learn how ludicrous your claims are.
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In the case of the Challenger disaster, it was just another hoax.
OMG!!!11!!
They found people that look vaguely similar! How dare they! ::)
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Don't forget to mention the Apollo 11 footage that was recovered from an IBM contractors basement, as well as the pioneer and Helios missions. NASA sure has a nack for making problems disappear.
And they were still recovered, weren't they? And all of the footage exists in copies, doesn't it?
They were almost immediately destroyed after they were recovered, along with two supercomputers that the contractor somehow managed to get his hands on. Of the 300 reels of film that they recovered and subsequently destroyed, they list the contents of only 10 of them. The rest, they claim, were probably blank.
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The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
The "recovered" copies were from live broadcasts that were grainy after being converted several times to match TV broadcast formatting. Kind of convenient that the end result was only barely distinguishable from shadow puppets. Good thing NASA got rid of the high-resolution films so that it is much harder for skeptics to poke holes in their little fairy tale.
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The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
The "recovered" copies were from live broadcasts that were grainy after being converted several times to match TV broadcast formatting. Kind of convenient that the end result was only barely distinguishable from shadow puppets. Good thing NASA got rid of the high-resolution films so that it is much harder for skeptics to poke holes in their little fairy tale.
Let's just say for a moment that any/all of that nonsense is true.
What part of any of that information suggests the earth isn't round?
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The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
The "recovered" copies were from live broadcasts that were grainy after being converted several times to match TV broadcast formatting. Kind of convenient that the end result was only barely distinguishable from shadow puppets. Good thing NASA got rid of the high-resolution films so that it is much harder for skeptics to poke holes in their little fairy tale.
Let's just say for a moment that any/all of that nonsense is true.
What part of any of that information suggests the earth isn't round?
It does not. However, it does show the thuggery that NASA will go through to cover up anything that might make people question them.
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The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
The "recovered" copies were from live broadcasts that were grainy after being converted several times to match TV broadcast formatting. Kind of convenient that the end result was only barely distinguishable from shadow puppets. Good thing NASA got rid of the high-resolution films so that it is much harder for skeptics to poke holes in their little fairy tale.
Let's just say for a moment that any/all of that nonsense is true.
What part of any of that information suggests the earth isn't round?
It does not. However, it does show the thuggery that NASA will go through to cover up anything that might make people question them.
People question them on this site all day long. Do you have any evidence of any one of them being suspiciously killed? You claimed that the FE cult has all kinds of power...do you really think this silly forum would exist if your tin foil hat theory was even remotely significant on any level?
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The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
The "recovered" copies were from live broadcasts that were grainy after being converted several times to match TV broadcast formatting. Kind of convenient that the end result was only barely distinguishable from shadow puppets. Good thing NASA got rid of the high-resolution films so that it is much harder for skeptics to poke holes in their little fairy tale.
Let's just say for a moment that any/all of that nonsense is true.
What part of any of that information suggests the earth isn't round?
It does not. However, it does show the thuggery that NASA will go through to cover up anything that might make people question them.
People question them on this site all day long. Do you have any evidence of any one of them being suspiciously killed? You claimed that the FE cult has all kinds of power...do you really think this silly forum would exist if your tin foil hat theory was even remotely significant on any level?
Would you not say that it is suspicious that flat Earthers disappear all the time, never to be heard from again?
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OP: I don't know how much I'd have to be payed to be kept "quite". I imagine its an English thing.
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The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
The "recovered" copies were from live broadcasts that were grainy after being converted several times to match TV broadcast formatting. Kind of convenient that the end result was only barely distinguishable from shadow puppets. Good thing NASA got rid of the high-resolution films so that it is much harder for skeptics to poke holes in their little fairy tale.
Let's just say for a moment that any/all of that nonsense is true.
What part of any of that information suggests the earth isn't round?
It does not. However, it does show the thuggery that NASA will go through to cover up anything that might make people question them.
People question them on this site all day long. Do you have any evidence of any one of them being suspiciously killed? You claimed that the FE cult has all kinds of power...do you really think this silly forum would exist if your tin foil hat theory was even remotely significant on any level?
Would you not say that it is suspicious that flat Earthers disappear all the time, never to be heard from again?
No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
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OP: I don't know how much I'd have to be payed to be kept "quite". I imagine its an English thing.
Super solid argument, John. The way he accidentally typed that word wrong...you have clearly proven the earth is not round with this ground breaking evidence.
Were you able to figure out what he was trying to say, or do you require some assistance?
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It shows he has no serious or importance to the topic at hand.
But perhaps you have more. Could you be kept quite?
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It shows he has no serious or importance to the topic at hand.
But perhaps you have more. Could you be kept quite?
You have entirely lost the argument when you resort to hanging yourself up on an obvious typo that doesn't even remotely change the context of the statement.
Also, your argument contains several grammatical errors.
No, I can't be kept quite.
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I'm pretty sure you keep yourself quite. But hey, keep hanging yourself up on the irrelevant.
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I'm pretty sure you keep yourself quite. But hey, keep hanging yourself up on the irrelevant.
Now you are just talking complete bullshit.
Have you noticed, that in every thread we are conversing in, that you have completely run away from the relevant topic at hand? I thought that if you ran away from an argument, it was due to your time being super important, yet here you are, spending all of this time avoiding the real conversation (in which you have been, once again, proven completely wrong)
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
Would you like to talk about it?
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
No shit. You said you were guessing. It could not have been plainer. You do this quite often while attempting to debate facts in this scientific forum. You don't have to make a separate post in order to explain that you were making stuff up. We all already knew it.
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
No shit. You said you were guessing. It could not have been plainer. You do this quite often while attempting to debate facts in this scientific forum. You don't have to make a separate post in order to explain that you were making stuff up. We all already knew it.
I have yet to see you debate a fact, ever.
Why don't you go back and try to read the thread again and see if putting the conversation in order helps you understand what is being discussed here.
It is funny how flat earthers attack flat earth logic and don't even realize they are just walking into a trap that was intentionally set to show exactly how little you actually believe in your own thought process.
I do thank you and Mr. Davis for spending all of this time proving that neither of you have a clue what you are talking about.
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
No shit. You said you were guessing. It could not have been plainer. You do this quite often while attempting to debate facts in this scientific forum. You don't have to make a separate post in order to explain that you were making stuff up. We all already knew it.
I have yet to see you debate a fact, ever.
Why don't you go back and try to read the thread again and see if putting the conversation in order helps you understand what is being discussed here.
It is funny how flat earthers attack flat earth logic and don't even realize they are just walking into a trap that was intentionally set to show exactly how little you actually believe in your own thought process.
I do thank you and Mr. Davis for spending all of this time proving that neither of you have a clue what you are talking about.
Why did you call me Mr. Davis?
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
No shit. You said you were guessing. It could not have been plainer. You do this quite often while attempting to debate facts in this scientific forum. You don't have to make a separate post in order to explain that you were making stuff up. We all already knew it.
I have yet to see you debate a fact, ever.
Why don't you go back and try to read the thread again and see if putting the conversation in order helps you understand what is being discussed here.
It is funny how flat earthers attack flat earth logic and don't even realize they are just walking into a trap that was intentionally set to show exactly how little you actually believe in your own thought process.
I do thank you and Mr. Davis for spending all of this time proving that neither of you have a clue what you are talking about.
Why did you call me Mr. Davis?
Read it again, very slowly. I know you can do it, you just have to try.
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
No shit. You said you were guessing. It could not have been plainer. You do this quite often while attempting to debate facts in this scientific forum. You don't have to make a separate post in order to explain that you were making stuff up. We all already knew it.
I have yet to see you debate a fact, ever.
Why don't you go back and try to read the thread again and see if putting the conversation in order helps you understand what is being discussed here.
It is funny how flat earthers attack flat earth logic and don't even realize they are just walking into a trap that was intentionally set to show exactly how little you actually believe in your own thought process.
I do thank you and Mr. Davis for spending all of this time proving that neither of you have a clue what you are talking about.
Why did you call me Mr. Davis?
Read it again, very slowly. I know you can do it, you just have to try.
I read it all again. I still do not see why you would refer to me as Mr. Davis. Are you implying that John and I are the same person? If so, I am not sure if it was meant as a compliment, but thanks regardless.
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
Would you like to talk about it?
Are you trying to psychoangolize him??
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No, I would say they learned the truth and stopped being flat earthers. Do you actually expect them to come back, after the fools they made out of themselves, and admit they were wrong? If any of them are actually being killed, I would be more inclined to suspect the flat earth cult than NASA...
Now, who is doing the speculating?
Oh, man, the way you sit there, in the dark, hiding like a cockroach, just waiting to spring out to look for some shit to eat. I would also speculate that most flat earth society "members" spend most of their time cringing at the awkwardness of each other.
Notice how I openly used the word "suspect" within the context that the whole concept was bullshit in the first place?
No shit. You said you were guessing. It could not have been plainer. You do this quite often while attempting to debate facts in this scientific forum. You don't have to make a separate post in order to explain that you were making stuff up. We all already knew it.
I have yet to see you debate a fact, ever.
Why don't you go back and try to read the thread again and see if putting the conversation in order helps you understand what is being discussed here.
It is funny how flat earthers attack flat earth logic and don't even realize they are just walking into a trap that was intentionally set to show exactly how little you actually believe in your own thought process.
I do thank you and Mr. Davis for spending all of this time proving that neither of you have a clue what you are talking about.
Why did you call me Mr. Davis?
Because he's an idiot.
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Don't forget to mention the Apollo 11 footage that was recovered from an IBM contractors basement, as well as the pioneer and Helios missions. NASA sure has a nack for making problems disappear.
And they were still recovered, weren't they? And all of the footage exists in copies, doesn't it?
They were almost immediately destroyed after they were recovered, along with two supercomputers that the contractor somehow managed to get his hands on. Of the 300 reels of film that they recovered and subsequently destroyed, they list the contents of only 10 of them. The rest, they claim, were probably blank.
Tape, not film. Get it right.
I got two tapes from the basement collection that didn't get taken by NASA. There are several more but they haven't been put on Ebay yet, nor did I get everything that was put online.
Chuck, someone who works at a data recovery company, has tried to read one NASA Automatic Data Processing tape but has been unable to, he deals with computer tapes, while this tape might be some sort of analog telemetry or instrumental data. Either way, he is having a closer look and will try to figure out a way to read it.
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The "lower-res" copies were recordings of supposed live broadcasts. They forgot that people were recording their shenanigans. Even NASA can screw up every now and then when they are attempting to cover their tracks. At least the recordings were of very low quality so it is harder for people to spot all of the BS in the films.
We know they're live. They had live conversations with mission control (unless MC was in on it too), and in some landings they commented on current events.
NASA didn't forget. Every news station around the world was making copies. Honeysuckle in Australia was too. NASA knew this.
The "recovered" copies were from live broadcasts that were grainy after being converted several times to match TV broadcast formatting. Kind of convenient that the end result was only barely distinguishable from shadow puppets. Good thing NASA got rid of the high-resolution films so that it is much harder for skeptics to poke holes in their little fairy tale.
High resolution video, not film.
The high resolution video was seen, recorded and photographed by people at tracking stations. The video feed was recorded on M22 telemetry tapes.
(https://www.honeysucklecreek.net/images/Apollo_11/ed_von_r_video_med.jpg)
"Ed von Renouard at the Honeysuckle Creek video console
during Apollo 12.
The slow scan rack is at the left. Photos 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 are of the top slow scan monitor (white background) – the others are of the scan-converted monitor directly in front of Ed (yellow background).
The smaller monitor to the left, at Ed’s eye level, was used to check various station configurations."
This link contains several photos of the unconverted slow-scan video screen you talk off, before it was converted to NTSC:
https://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11_EVA_stills/index.html
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I just don't understand a few things. First of all, flat earthers believe is lying to us, and keeping the "truth" of the flat earth a secret, how did you guys find out? You had sources from inside the government? You hacked into a private Email server? You blackmailed somebody involved with the secret? No, you looked outside and said it looks flat, and you guys think you're geniuses for finding out their "secret". And if the government was going to such lengths to keep it a secret, then how could they forget to cover up something that so obviously proves that the earth is flat, such as it appearing flat to everybody at ground level? Second, if NASA would go to lengths such as killing people in order to keep the flat earth a secret, then why
would they keep websites like this one up on the internet, for everybody to see the earth's "true" shape? If they didn't want the secret to get out, then why is stuff on the flat earth all over the internet? Third, when somebody is raised their whole life being taught the earth is round, and then gains a position in the government, what is the undeniable evidence they are told that convinces them the earth is flat? Because EVERYBODY involved in the government knows the "truth". And last, what would the government have to gain from hiding the earth's shape from us? Really? And I already know that nobody is going to be able to give me a good reply, or even a reply at all.
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I just don't understand a few things. First of all, flat earthers believe is lying to us, and keeping the "truth" of the flat earth a secret, how did you guys find out? You had sources from inside the government? You hacked into a private Email server? You blackmailed somebody involved with the secret? No, you looked outside and said it looks flat, and you guys think you're geniuses for finding out their "secret". And if the government was going to such lengths to keep it a secret, then how could they forget to cover up something that so obviously proves that the earth is flat, such as it appearing flat to everybody at ground level? Second, if NASA would go to lengths such as killing people in order to keep the flat earth a secret, then why
would they keep websites like this one up on the internet, for everybody to see the earth's "true" shape? If they didn't want the secret to get out, then why is stuff on the flat earth all over the internet? Third, when somebody is raised their whole life being taught the earth is round, and then gains a position in the government, what is the undeniable evidence they are told that convinces them the earth is flat? Because EVERYBODY involved in the government knows the "truth". And last, what would the government have to gain from hiding the earth's shape from us? Really? And I already know that nobody is going to be able to give me a good reply, or even a reply at all.
Not everyone in the gubberment knows the truth. That's why they have security classification levels. Someone in payroll or the cleaners do not need to know all the secrets within the organization just because they work there. The truth could be known by just a few individuals. People who work for NASA don't have all the pieces to the puzzle. Usually they are assigned to groups and given only enough information to do their part, but not enough to know any nefarious purposes to what they build or do.
This notion that the conspiracy has to be held by millions of people so is unsustainable is a load of rubbish. Does someone working in a police headquarters managing the payroll or running background checks know about every/any secret undercover operation? No! Why would they? Given the sensitive nature of the shape of the Earth, there would be even less people 'in the know'.
Do not underestimate the power of indoctrination. You could should damning compelling evidence to the likes of shillinoz or JackBlack and they would not believe it.
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Not everyone in the gubberment knows the truth. That's why they have security classification levels. Someone in payroll or the cleaners do not need to know all the secrets within the organization just because they work there. The truth could be known by just a few individuals. People who work for NASA don't have all the pieces to the puzzle. Usually they are assigned to groups and given only enough information to do their part, but not enough to know any nefarious purposes to what they build or do.
This notion that the conspiracy has to be held by millions of people so is unsustainable is a load of rubbish. Does someone working in a police headquarters managing the payroll or running background checks know about every/any secret undercover operation? No! Why would they? Given the sensitive nature of the shape of the Earth, there would be even less people 'in the know'.
Do not underestimate the power of indoctrination. You could should damning compelling evidence to the likes of shillinoz or JackBlack and they would not believe it.
...and you know all this, how? Did you ever work for the government? Did you ever hold a clearance? Were you ever read into any dark mysterious project?
You have stated a number of assertions but, how can you back any of them up? Everything you said could be a script from the X-Files. I'll agree with you on compartmentalisation which is what you are trying to describe but, do you have any clue how many people have worked with satellite imagery? Do you know how extensive satellite imagery is even used? You do realise that images are sent from a satellite back to earth as digital information and that information is used in a myriad of ways. For example, you cannot see the infrared wavelength but, to visualise infrared waves and their effect on the planet, you can't just whip out a Polaroid and voila, off you go. :) Some of this information is classified and some of it is not. Different satellites are used for different reasons. Not all of them are floating "spook mobiles".
You do agree that satellite imagery exists, yes? If so, how many satellites do you think are up there? Do you think that they go to one side then turn around and come back? Do you think that every image is "manipulated" to create a false curve? :)
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Honestly, I'm still in shock that somebody answered me, thank you! It's nice to see that somebody is at least TRYING to use the website how it was meant to be used. But I do agree with Really, how do you know all of this? Also, how does the belief of the flat earth get passed down through government officials? If they were raised to believe the round earth then what piece of evidence were they shown to entirely convince them of the earth's flatness? Also was "quiet" spelled right a single time in this forum?