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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: defender_of_truth on April 17, 2018, 08:18:22 PM
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Have any flat earthers out there ever measured anything? I mean anything at all. Measurements are quantifiable and can be compared, repeated, used in other calculation, etc.
Propaganda and conspiracy cannot defeat measurement. If you can measure something, you should.
Post here any measurements!
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Have any flat earthers out there ever measured anything? I mean anything at all. Measurements are quantifiable and can be compared, repeated, used in other calculation, etc.
Propaganda and conspiracy cannot defeat measurement. If you can measure something, you should.
Post here any measurements!
any measurements you say?? ;)
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Have any flat earthers out there ever measured anything? I mean anything at all. Measurements are quantifiable and can be compared, repeated, used in other calculation, etc.
Propaganda and conspiracy cannot defeat measurement. If you can measure something, you should.
Post here any measurements!
any measurements you say?? ;)
Yes, baking cakes, checking your fuel mileage, anything! The point is to get FE-ers measuring for themselves so they don’t have to “trust”.
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Have any flat earthers out there ever measured anything? I mean anything at all. Measurements are quantifiable and can be compared, repeated, used in other calculation, etc.
Propaganda and conspiracy cannot defeat measurement. If you can measure something, you should.
Post here any measurements!
I have used compass for measure the angle of my office with the magnetic center. As a reault, the value was so so different than the value on google map. I disproved the google map. Google map is collapsed after my measurements. This is repeatable by everyone. I suggest you do same thing. Did you do? May you want to repeat same thing? Did you ever measure a discussable issue between flat earth and globist theories?
For example, did you ever repeat the whirpool experiment in your home? I did. I rejected the whirpool directions by my own measurement. Did you ever do it?
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Have any flat earthers out there ever measured anything? I mean anything at all. Measurements are quantifiable and can be compared, repeated, used in other calculation, etc.
Propaganda and conspiracy cannot defeat measurement. If you can measure something, you should.
Post here any measurements!
I have used compass for measure the angle of my office with the magnetic center. As a reault, the value was so so different than the value on google map. I disproved the google map.
Did you have a proper dip circle for you to "measure the angle of my office with the magnetic center"?
Because an ordinary compass will not measure magnetic inclination properly.
I have repeatedly demanded that you post photos of your dip circle. If you do not have one you have been wasting your time.
Google map is collapsed after my measurements.
No they did not take the slightest bit of notice of your measurements.
This is repeatable by everyone. I suggest you do same thing. Did you do? May you want to repeat same thing? Did you ever measure a discussable issue between flat earth and globist theories?
For example, did you ever repeat the whirpool experiment in your home? I did. I rejected the whirlpool directions by my own measurement. Did you ever do it?
You cannot repeat the "repeat the whirpool experiment in your home"! The Coriolis effect is quite negligible on a small scale!
So you proved nothing!
And you were asked to "Post here any measurements!" You posted no measurements, Why should we take any notice of you?
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Sickinoz is in ignore, you know.
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I have used compass for measure the angle of my office with the magnetic center. As a reault, the value was so so different than the value on google map.
Where did you find a compass bearing on google maps?
Remember, they use geographic north, not a compass.
For example, did you ever repeat the whirpool experiment in your home? I did. I rejected the whirpool directions by my own measurement. Did you ever do it?
No, it is in enough large scale weather systems for me to not need to.
However I have done Foucault's pendulum.
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Sickblack is in ignored list, you know.
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Sorry BOTD, but your claimed compass experiment, do you mean this one: https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4942.0 ?
You mention repeating the test three times and do not include the first result, stating it must be wrong. Your second and third results are given as 102 and 85 km (depth of the magnetic centre of the Earth). Before you can claim to have disproved anything, I would suggest that you need to improve the accuracy of your equipment and gather some repeatable results.
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Sorry BOTD, but your claimed compass experiment, do you mean this one: https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=4942.0 ?
You mention repeating the test three times and do not include the first result, stating it must be wrong. Your second and third results are given as 102 and 85 km (depth of the magnetic centre of the Earth). Before you can claim to have disproved anything, I would suggest that you need to improve the accuracy of your equipment and gather some repeatable results.
This is not your topic. I'm talking about something else, but not the mentioned one by you.
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Have any flat earthers out there ever measured anything? I mean anything at all. Measurements are quantifiable and can be compared, repeated, used in other calculation, etc.
Propaganda and conspiracy cannot defeat measurement. If you can measure something, you should.
Post here any measurements!
I have used compass for measure the angle of my office with the magnetic center. As a reault, the value was so so different than the value on google map. I disproved the google map. Google map is collapsed after my measurements. This is repeatable by everyone. I suggest you do same thing. Did you do? May you want to repeat same thing? Did you ever measure a discussable issue between flat earth and globist theories?
For example, did you ever repeat the whirpool experiment in your home? I did. I rejected the whirpool directions by my own measurement. Did you ever do it?
I went and grabbed my compass to do the same, but I happen to be in a region where magnetic and "true" north are nearly in line. My compass confirms this to the best of my ability to measure true north, but I notice a lot of things indoors can mess with the reading for magnetic north. Even a nail in the wall can cause measurement error! I used a Silva Ranger type 27 compass. As for other measurements, I have performed many! The ones related to this forum were for the sun and moon position, but also the dip of the horizon.
Those 2 are also in my ignore, but probably for different reasons than you. In their defense, they do not really post for your benefit; but rather they post for those who might be curious or "on the fence" about flat earth.
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I have used compass for measure the angle of my office with the magnetic center. As a result, the value was so so different than the value on google map. I disproved the google map. Google map is collapsed after my measurements. This is repeatable by everyone.
You already mentioned some measurements, but never posted any image or video.
Who would believe you like that?
Even if you did, Google Maps doesn't have any data about magnetic declinations and inclinations.
With what you compared?
Let me remind you: somebody on this forum could know somebody in Turkey.
They could call each other and measure / test.
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Sickinoz is in ignore, you know.
If he's on ignore how do you know he posted?
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Sickinoz is in ignore, you know.
If he's on ignore how do you know he posted?
Because it tells you he posted but hides the content of the post
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Sickinoz is in ignore, you know.
If he's on ignore how do you know he posted?
Because it tells you he posted but hides the content of the post
Dome reminding everyone about his ignore list every 10 minutes is a public service.
It forces everyone to roll their eyes thus preventing eye strain.
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RABinOZ is in ignore, you know.
So you admit that your measurements have no basis, thanks for that!
Much appreciated.
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Sickinoz is in ignore, you know.
If he's on ignore how do you know he posted?
Because it tells you he posted but hides the content of the post
But if Mr Brotherhood of the Dome does not open my post, he does not know that I am replying to him. Elementary, Mr Shifter.
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Sickinoz is in ignore, you know.
If he's on ignore how do you know he posted?
Because it tells you he posted but hides the content of the post
But if Mr Brotherhood of the Dome does not open my post, he does not know that I am replying to him. Elementary, Mr Shifter.
Just your name is enough to know. What else do you post for if not to bully brotherhood of the dome for his contribution to a thread
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Sickinoz is in ignore, you know.
If he's on ignore how do you know he posted?
Because it tells you he posted but hides the content of the post
But if Mr Brotherhood of the Dome does not open my post, he does not know that I am replying to him. Elementary, Mr Shifter.
Just your name is enough to know. What else do you post for if not to bully brotherhood of the dome for his contribution to a thread
1- I saw his posts on your quotes, as you say.
2- 80%-90% of his posts after mine contains a quote of mine.
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I have used compass for measure the angle of my office with the magnetic center. As a result, the value was so so different than the value on google map. I disproved the google map. Google map is collapsed after my measurements. This is repeatable by everyone.
You already mentioned some measurements, but never posted any image or video.
Who would believe you like that?
Even if you did, Google Maps doesn't have any data about magnetic declinations and inclinations.
With what you compared?
Let me remind you: somebody on this forum could know somebody in Turkey.
They could call each other and measure / test.
I was trying to get a video about it, but I have lost my connection cable of the camera. Sure, I'll do that with a convincing video as close as possible.
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A photo/video is ok, but just the measurement is still nteresting to me! How much different do you detect from magnetic north and true north? Also, what method did you use to find true north?
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A photo/video is ok, but just the measurement is still nteresting to me! How much different do you detect from magnetic north and true north? Also, what method did you use to find true north?
North is north. No magnetic, true o geomagnetic, or geographic north. They are just cheatings to deceive people to their mistakes on the map. If the map wrong in anywhere, so there must be a magnetic declination. That's all of their sick mentality.
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North is north. No magnetic, true o geomagnetic, or geographic north. They are just cheatings to deceive people to their mistakes on the map. If the map wrong in anywhere, so there must be a magnetic declination. That's all of their sick mentality.
Incorrect!
There is "True North", the direction to the North Pole and there is Magnetic North, the direction the "north-seeking end" of a compass needle points.
If you, Mr Brotherhood of the Dome are so ignorant that you do not know this, then you are proving yourself a fool by posting rubbish like you do.
No wonder you can't work out the true shape of the earth!
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heiwainoz is in ignore list but he doesn't aware of this. :)
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North is north. No magnetic, true o geomagnetic, or geographic north.
No. There are several different norths.
There is geographic north, which is the direction to the geographic north pole, the pole based upon Earth's rotation and the right hand rule.
There is magnetic north, which is simply the way a compass points.
Then there is geomagnetic north, which is the direction to the north geomagnetic pole, the pole of a hypothetical bar magnet which approximates Earth's magnetic field.
If the map wrong in anywhere, so there must be a magnetic declination. That's all of their sick mentality.
No, that is there sane mentality. The sick mentality is pretending there is only one north.
There is magnetic declination. It is well recorded.
heiwainoz is in ignore list but he doesn't aware of this. :)
No, everyone here is well aware of your pathetic, childish antics.
That doesn't stop people from calling you out on your bullshit.
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heiwainoz is in ignore list but he doesn't aware of this. :)
Idiot! Heiwa is Swedish, but lives in France and I live in Australia! You poor deluded man, you know nothing about anything!
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A photo/video is ok, but just the measurement is still nteresting to me! How much different do you detect from magnetic north and true north? Also, what method did you use to find true north?
North is north. No magnetic, true o geomagnetic, or geographic north. They are just cheatings to deceive people to their mistakes on the map. If the map wrong in anywhere, so there must be a magnetic declination. That's all of their sick mentality.
Ok, but humor me for a moment. The needle in a compass points to a certain direction, and that is based on magnetic fields. As I understand it, you are located in Istanbul (where I very much would like to visit!). How bad is the light pollution there? Can you see the stars, or would you need to go into the countryside? If you have a camera with timelapse, you can view the stars rotation. The star closest to the center of this rotation is polaris. There will be an angle difference between the center of the star rotation and the magnetic north direction. We don't need to worry about labels or what this means just yet, but you can verify those statements factually for yourself without relying on any outside information.
Also, no need to keep reminding of the ignored ;)
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North is north. No magnetic, true o geomagnetic, or geographic north. They are just cheatings to deceive people to their mistakes on the map. If the map wrong in anywhere, so there must be a magnetic declination. That's all of their sick mentality.
I'd ask you to reconsider and help me out. I'd be most grateful if you'd just check in the morning what direction the sun is rising in Istanbul. I'll take whatever compass reading you get. You don't have to worry about "declination" or definitions of what north is. I just need someone (anyone, but preferable not a globe person) from another part of the earth to work this out with me.
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heiwainoz is in ignore list but he doesn't aware of this. :)
It seems you like to ignore everyone and everything that proves you wrong just so you can pretend you are right.
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botd, did you take the measurement? Did you get the expected 5 1/2 degrees?
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Brotherhood of the dome, have you forgotten the question? Are you not interested?
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While we wait for BOTD, have any other flat earthers got any measurements to share? It can be as simple as checking your tire pressure!
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While we wait for BOTD, have any other flat earthers got any measurements to share? It can be as simple as checking your tire pressure!
I put my tyres to 42psi. A little more than recommended but means my fuel economy is a bit better and should 1 or more drop a few psi (I am lazy and only check a few times a year), I'm still good. I find a good way to check your tyre pressures are low is if you are going down a slight hill and put the car in neutral, if you are slowing down, that means they are low. If you pick up speed, they are good.
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While we wait for BOTD, have any other flat earthers got any measurements to share? It can be as simple as checking your tire pressure!
I put my tyres to 42psi. A little more than recommended but means my fuel economy is a bit better and should 1 or more drop a few psi (I am lazy and only check a few times a year), I'm still good. I find a good way to check your tyre pressures are low is if you are going down a slight hill and put the car in neutral, if you are slowing down, that means they are low. If you pick up speed, they are good.
Or you can drive a car that's newer than 12 years old. Tire pressure sensors are mandatory on all cars 2007 and newer.
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While we wait for BOTD, have any other flat earthers got any measurements to share? It can be as simple as checking your tire pressure!
I put my tyres to 42psi. A little more than recommended but means my fuel economy is a bit better and should 1 or more drop a few psi (I am lazy and only check a few times a year), I'm still good. I find a good way to check your tyre pressures are low is if you are going down a slight hill and put the car in neutral, if you are slowing down, that means they are low. If you pick up speed, they are good.
Or you can drive a car that's newer than 12 years old. Tire pressure sensors are mandatory on all cars 2007 and newer.
True, but some are indirect sensors and would not actually tell you much about the actual tire pressure.
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While we wait for BOTD, have any other flat earthers got any measurements to share? It can be as simple as checking your tire pressure!
I put my tyres to 42psi. A little more than recommended but means my fuel economy is a bit better and should 1 or more drop a few psi (I am lazy and only check a few times a year), I'm still good. I find a good way to check your tyre pressures are low is if you are going down a slight hill and put the car in neutral, if you are slowing down, that means they are low. If you pick up speed, they are good.
Or you can drive a car that's newer than 12 years old. Tire pressure sensors are mandatory on all cars 2007 and newer.
True, but some are indirect sensors and would not actually tell you much about the actual tire pressure.
I never trust the sensors and I think (like the engine check light), It may only turn on after there is a problem. Untold damage may be occurring before it finally tells you something is wrong. My guess is my tyres could be at 25psi and still no indication to tell me (my car is supposed to have this feature). I guess it would tell me after a blow out?
I had a Smart car built in 2008 that didn't even tell me when my car tyre blew out (tyre lasted 85K km!) I was wondering why the steering felt strange and pulled over. Lucky I did when I did or I would have destroyed the rim as well. Not a very Smart car! (when you look at them I guess they double as a coffin on wheels so I guess that's pretty smart though)
(http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/10/2015/09/2013-smart-fortwo-passion-coupe-three-quarters-2.jpg)
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While we wait for BOTD, have any other flat earthers got any measurements to share? It can be as simple as checking your tire pressure!
I put my tyres to 42psi. A little more than recommended but means my fuel economy is a bit better and should 1 or more drop a few psi (I am lazy and only check a few times a year), I'm still good. I find a good way to check your tyre pressures are low is if you are going down a slight hill and put the car in neutral, if you are slowing down, that means they are low. If you pick up speed, they are good.
Or you can drive a car that's newer than 12 years old. Tire pressure sensors are mandatory on all cars 2007 and newer.
True, but some are indirect sensors and would not actually tell you much about the actual tire pressure.
I never trust the sensors and I think (like the engine check light), It may only turn on after there is a problem. Untold damage may be occurring before it finally tells you something is wrong. My guess is my tyres could be at 25psi and still no indication to tell me (my car is supposed to have this feature). I guess it would tell me after a blow out?
I had a Smart car built in 2008 that didn't even tell me when my car tyre blew out (tyre lasted 85K km!) I was wondering why the steering felt strange and pulled over. Lucky I did when I did or I would have destroyed the rim as well. Not a very Smart car! (when you look at them I guess they double as a coffin on wheels so I guess that's pretty smart though)
(http://st.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/10/2015/09/2013-smart-fortwo-passion-coupe-three-quarters-2.jpg)
I would be interested in a braking distance test at both pressures. A longer stopping distance at the wrong moment could cost you more than you've saved on fuel! And whoa 85k!
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I never trust the sensors and I think...
This message has been flat earther approved.
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Or you can drive a car that's newer than 12 years old. Tire pressure sensors are mandatory on all cars 2007 and newer.
I know this might be surprising, but there are people from outside the US.
Also you might want to check your math.
They were on all new vehicles part way through 2017. That means a car just over 10.5 years old (from the US) could potentially not have them.
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Or you can drive a car that's newer than 12 years old. Tire pressure sensors are mandatory on all cars 2007 and newer.
I know this might be surprising, but there are people from outside the US.
Also you might want to check your math.
They were on all new vehicles part way through 2017. That means a car just over 10.5 years old (from the US) could potentially not have them.
Model year 19s are being sold right now. 19 minus 07 is 12. I realize this is a flat earth forum so there's an allowable error ratio of 100%.
I will concede the EU did not adopt this until 2012. I thought it was a global standard in 07 which is not correct.
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Model year 19s are being sold right now. 19 minus 07 is 12.
And was it the 07 models, or the 08/09 models that were being sold in 2007 when all had them?
I will concede the EU did not adopt this until 2012. I thought it was a global standard in 07 which is not correct.
And there are some places that still don't mandate them.
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Model year 19s are being sold right now. 19 minus 07 is 12.
And was it the 07 models, or the 08/09 models that were being sold in 2007 when all had them?
I will concede the EU did not adopt this until 2012. I thought it was a global standard in 07 which is not correct.
And there are some places that still don't mandate them.
Federal emissions standards mandated that all passenger cars with a GVW of 2.8 metric tons or more and a towing capacity of at least 15 meganewton's have their tire pressure checked systematically every 30 seconds, 5 seconds if it detects a leak. A leak is defined as losing 1.2 psI over the course of 10 seconds. Modern vehicles nowadays approve the standards and allow the passengers to employ autonomous driving technology. You can't tell me for a SECOND that cloud based telemetry data wouldn't interfere with tire pressure sensors.
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You are not wanted here jackblack. Go split hairs somewhere else
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Model year 19s are being sold right now. 19 minus 07 is 12.
And was it the 07 models, or the 08/09 models that were being sold in 2007 when all had them?
I will concede the EU did not adopt this until 2012. I thought it was a global standard in 07 which is not correct.
And there are some places that still don't mandate them.
Federal emissions standards mandated that all passenger cars with a GVW of 2.8 metric tons or more and a towing capacity of at least 15 meganewton's have their tire pressure checked systematically every 30 seconds, 5 seconds if it detects a leak. A leak is defined as losing 1.2 psI over the course of 10 seconds. Modern vehicles nowadays approve the standards and allow the passengers to employ autonomous driving technology. You can't tell me for a SECOND that cloud based telemetry data wouldn't interfere with tire pressure sensors.
Well the Smart car was only a tad over 700kg. The heaviest car I had was a 300ZX at over 1500kg. I cant think of many passenger vehicles that would weigh over 2.8 tonnes. Maybe if you drive a Hummer or something, that thing comes in at nearly 5000kg
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Maybe if you drive a Hummer or something, that thing comes in at nearly 5000kg
(((do I split hairs about the math when it's actually 4000kg or just keep typing)))
Many of my cars have had 3 pedals. Clutch, brake, and accelerator. Not necessarily in that order. But they could have been in that order. When clutching, some critics say to double clutch in order to save the syncros. What I don't understand is what this has to do with tire pressure monitoring systems.
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it's worth nothing that gvwr, or whatever it’s called in various countries around the world, is not the weight of your vehicle. Instead it’s the maximum it is allowed to weigh fully loaded. Go weigh your car somewhere, could be fun!
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I do not have to reply members have at least 1250 posts. Look at the rules in my signature for 5 seconds. :)
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I do not have to reply members have at least 1250 posts. Look at the rules in my signature for 5 seconds. :)
I accept your defeat and lack of self control, for it was you who engaged in diologue with me. If you change your mind (again) I’ll be happy to show you the door (again).
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I do not have to reply members have at least 1250 posts. Look at the rules in my signature for 5 seconds. :)
Really?
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In other news, I will be rather near Istanbul in a few weeks. Should I be bothered to take the measurement I already know to be correct?
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You are not wanted here jackblack. Go split hairs somewhere else
it's worth nothing that gvwr, or whatever it’s called in various countries around the world, is not the weight of your vehicle. Instead it’s the maximum it is allowed to weigh fully loaded. Go weigh your car somewhere, could be fun!
So my splitting hairs isn't welcome, but yours is fine?
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You are not wanted here jackblack. Go split hairs somewhere else
it's worth nothing that gvwr, or whatever it’s called in various countries around the world, is not the weight of your vehicle. Instead it’s the maximum it is allowed to weigh fully loaded. Go weigh your car somewhere, could be fun!
So my splitting hairs isn't welcome, but yours is fine?
Just go away, please