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Title: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
im very new here, don't know if anyone seen this, but I find it very weird, watch how CNN news talk's about  satanists. i don't care how they try and put it devil worship is wrong. 

https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/11/living/5-things-satanists/index.html

Now watch here as they talk about flat earth. it doesn't matter if it's flat or round, the way they dish it off as totally crazy, that  isn't right, you think they would just show some science to  show everyone the earth is round, instead they pull out tin foil hats, but yet devil worship is great. WTF Don't TELL ME YOU SEE DEVIL WORSHIPPING AS OK AND EXPLORING A THOUGHT AND LOOKING FOR TRUTH AS WRONG.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/us/b-o-b-flat-earth-gofundme-trnd/index.html 

Watch both videos and tell me what you think about the 2 video
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Slemon on February 23, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
satanists. i don't care how they try and put it devil worship is wrong. 
Most modern satanists don't believe in, much less worship, the devil. Literally the first point in the link.

Not sure this really fits in S&C though.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
satanists. i don't care how they try and put it devil worship is wrong. 
Most modern satanists don't believe in, much less worship, the devil. Literally the first point in the link.

Not sure this really fits in S&C though.
lol it doesn't matter how you put it their promoting devil worship
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Slemon on February 23, 2018, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
satanists. i don't care how they try and put it devil worship is wrong. 
Most modern satanists don't believe in, much less worship, the devil. Literally the first point in the link.

Not sure this really fits in S&C though.
lol it doesn't matter how you put it their promoting devil worship
I don't see how talking about a group literally not worshipping anything, let alone the devil, is promoting devil worship.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:51:54 PM
wow all they have hanging is devil stuff there mascot is the devil you don't find something wrong with that
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Slemon on February 23, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:51:54 PM
wow all they have hanging is devil stuff there mascot is the devil you don't find something wrong with that
They don't believe in a devil, they don't worship anything. Therefore they cannot possibly worship the devil. What are you complaining about?
It's a bunch of people who use a shock factor aesthetic while having generally decent morals. You only seem to be complaining about the name.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:11:40 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:51:54 PM
wow all they have hanging is devil stuff there mascot is the devil you don't find something wrong with that
They don't believe in a devil, they don't worship anything. Therefore they cannot possibly worship the devil. What are you complaining about?
It's a bunch of people who use a shock factor aesthetic while having generally decent morals. You only seem to be complaining about the name.

The Church of Satan really, satan as there mascot sure looks and sounds like devil worship to me. you call it what you want ill call it for what it is devil worship
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Bullwinkle on February 23, 2018, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:11:40 PM
The Church of Satan really, satan as there mascot sure looks and sounds like devil worship to me. you call it what you want ill call it for what it is devil worship


Drink a cup of holy water, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:51:54 PM
wow all they have hanging is devil stuff there mascot is the devil you don't find something wrong with that
They don't believe in a devil, they don't worship anything. Therefore they cannot possibly worship the devil. What are you complaining about?
It's a bunch of people who use a shock factor aesthetic while having generally decent morals. You only seem to be complaining about the name.
atheists don't believe in anything i don't one that has a  house full of devil stuff let alone 1 devil thing if you don't believe in anything that is fine but when your house is full of devil stuff i believe that might be devil worship
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Fild on February 23, 2018, 03:27:34 PM
Man you are on us .
Only the flat Earthers can stop us !
We are about to get on mars thanks to our puppet Elon Musk.
The flat Earthers are trying to stop space exploration.
But once we are on mars , we will open a portal .

And then it will be absolute DOOM !!!
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Slemon on February 23, 2018, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:51:54 PM
wow all they have hanging is devil stuff there mascot is the devil you don't find something wrong with that
They don't believe in a devil, they don't worship anything. Therefore they cannot possibly worship the devil. What are you complaining about?
It's a bunch of people who use a shock factor aesthetic while having generally decent morals. You only seem to be complaining about the name.
atheists don't believe in anything i don't one that has a  house full of devil stuff let alone 1 devil thing if you don't believe in anything that is fine but when your house is full of devil stuff i believe that might be devil worship
Or an aesthetic choice. I've got a picture of Mickey Mouse hanging up, it doesn't mean I worship Disney.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Bullwinkle on February 23, 2018, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:51:54 PM
wow all they have hanging is devil stuff there mascot is the devil you don't find something wrong with that
They don't believe in a devil, they don't worship anything. Therefore they cannot possibly worship the devil. What are you complaining about?
It's a bunch of people who use a shock factor aesthetic while having generally decent morals. You only seem to be complaining about the name.
atheists don't believe in anything i don't one that has a  house full of devil stuff let alone 1 devil thing if you don't believe in anything that is fine but when your house is full of devil stuff i believe that might be devil worship

And how does that effect your life other than causing severe anxiety attacks?
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
im just showing how CNN is promoting devil worship, you don't find anything wrong with that really, id think even a atheists would have a problem with that, and im sure any real atheists would have a problem with this church claiming to be atheists when in fact there devil worshiping
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Bullwinkle on February 23, 2018, 03:42:08 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
im just showing how CNN is promoting devil worship, you don't find anything wrong with that really, id think even a atheists would have a problem with that, and im sure any real atheists would have a problem with this church claiming to be atheists when in fact there devil worshiping


As an atheist I can assure you we don't care.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: markjo on February 23, 2018, 03:51:43 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
im just showing how CNN is promoting devil worship, you don't find anything wrong with that really, id think even a atheists would have a problem with that, and im sure any real atheists would have a problem with this church claiming to be atheists when in fact there devil worshiping
Why do you keep ignoring the fact that the Church of Satan does not actually worship Satan?  Seriously, do you not get the irony?
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Macarios on February 23, 2018, 04:55:58 PM
Agreed.
Devil worship IS wrong.
There are other worships that are also wrong.
For example, prayer for child instead of medicine and vaccines.
Asking from God to save someone, instead of stopping his bleeding, or giving him CPR, or operating his tumor.
Waiting for Kingdom of Heaven to come, instead of developing space ships and going there to expand living space and harvesting resources in abundance.
Worshiping war and giving 600 billion dollars to military, and only 19 billion to NASA.
Luckily, China, India, Japan and others also develop Space programs.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: rabinoz on February 23, 2018, 05:02:08 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
im very new here, don't know if anyone seen this, but I find it very weird, watch how CNN news talk's about  satanists. i don't care how they try and put it devil worship is wrong. 
https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/11/living/5-things-satanists/index.html
I wouldn't for a moment try to justify Satanists or Devil Worship, but it is totally unrelated to the shape of the earth.

Quote from: andrewchikoski
Now watch here as they talk about flat earth. it doesn't matter if it's flat or round, the way they dish it off as totally crazy, that  isn't right, you think they would just show some science to  show everyone the earth is round, instead they pull out tin foil hats, but yet devil worship is great. WTF Don't TELL ME YOU SEE DEVIL WORSHIPPING AS OK AND EXPLORING A THOUGHT AND LOOKING FOR TRUTH AS WRONG.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/us/b-o-b-flat-earth-gofundme-trnd/index.html 
Watch both videos and tell me what you think about the 2 video
Of course I don't see "DEVIL WORSHIPPING AS OK AND EXPLORING A THOUGHT AND LOOKING FOR TRUTH AS WRONG"!

OK, "B.o.B wants to prove the Earth is flat once and for all". If he refuses to understand all the evidence that's out there, of course he's free to:
Quote
"launch multiple satellites into space" in order to observe, and try to disprove, what centuries of science and technology have already confirmed. All he needs is a small investment of $200,000 dollars (and launch approval, of course).
But I fail to see any connection with Satanism and the shape of the earth, why would anyone even dream of connecting the two?
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 03:28:01 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:22:32 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:51:54 PM
wow all they have hanging is devil stuff there mascot is the devil you don't find something wrong with that
They don't believe in a devil, they don't worship anything. Therefore they cannot possibly worship the devil. What are you complaining about?
It's a bunch of people who use a shock factor aesthetic while having generally decent morals. You only seem to be complaining about the name.
atheists don't believe in anything i don't one that has a  house full of devil stuff let alone 1 devil thing if you don't believe in anything that is fine but when your house is full of devil stuff i believe that might be devil worship
Or an aesthetic choice. I've got a picture of Mickey Mouse hanging up, it doesn't mean I worship Disney.
  just wondering you got devil photos in your house or any devilish type shit black magic i don't mickey mouse is a far cry away from the devil
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: rabinoz on February 23, 2018, 05:02:08 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
im very new here, don't know if anyone seen this, but I find it very weird, watch how CNN news talk's about  satanists. i don't care how they try and put it devil worship is wrong. 
https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/11/living/5-things-satanists/index.html
I wouldn't for a moment try to justify Satanists or Devil Worship, but it is totally unrelated to the shape of the earth.

Quote from: andrewchikoski
Now watch here as they talk about flat earth. it doesn't matter if it's flat or round, the way they dish it off as totally crazy, that  isn't right, you think they would just show some science to  show everyone the earth is round, instead they pull out tin foil hats, but yet devil worship is great. WTF Don't TELL ME YOU SEE DEVIL WORSHIPPING AS OK AND EXPLORING A THOUGHT AND LOOKING FOR TRUTH AS WRONG.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/25/us/b-o-b-flat-earth-gofundme-trnd/index.html 
Watch both videos and tell me what you think about the 2 video
Of course I don't see "DEVIL WORSHIPPING AS OK AND EXPLORING A THOUGHT AND LOOKING FOR TRUTH AS WRONG"!

OK, "B.o.B wants to prove the Earth is flat once and for all". If he refuses to understand all the evidence that's out there, of course he's free to:
Quote
"launch multiple satellites into space" in order to observe, and try to disprove, what centuries of science and technology have already confirmed. All he needs is a small investment of $200,000 dollars (and launch approval, of course).
But I fail to see any connection with Satanism and the shape of the earth, why would anyone even dream of connecting the two?
  im just trying to show how CNN is promoting devil worship but laughing at one for exploring a thought which happened to be a flat earth flat earth is a joke to CNN but devil worship is ok i do see how this is relevant
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Slemon on February 23, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
just wondering you got devil photos in your house or any devilish type shit black magic i don't mickey mouse is a far cry away from the devil
I'm pretty sure I've got a shirt with a pentacle on it somewhere. That count? Plus several books with Pagan iconography on the front cover, and Doctor Who's The Daemons. That count?
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Bullwinkle on February 23, 2018, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
mickey mouse is a far cry away from the devil

$120 ticket to stand in line for two and a half hours per ride is pure evil.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: disputeone on February 23, 2018, 05:58:03 PM
Flat earth is a psyop.

All the oldest posters here have military connections.

2+2=4
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
just wondering you got devil photos in your house or any devilish type shit black magic i don't mickey mouse is a far cry away from the devil
I'm pretty sure I've got a shirt with a pentacle on it somewhere. That count? Plus several books with Pagan iconography on the front cover, and Doctor Who's The Daemons. That count?
having a shirt or a book compared to a shrine basically of devil stuff is another far distance away
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Crutchwater on February 23, 2018, 06:18:08 PM
Hail Santa!
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Slemon on February 23, 2018, 06:30:33 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
just wondering you got devil photos in your house or any devilish type shit black magic i don't mickey mouse is a far cry away from the devil
I'm pretty sure I've got a shirt with a pentacle on it somewhere. That count? Plus several books with Pagan iconography on the front cover, and Doctor Who's The Daemons. That count?
having a shirt or a book compared to a shrine basically of devil stuff is another far distance away
People who don't believe in the devil have shrines to it now?
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 06:30:33 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
just wondering you got devil photos in your house or any devilish type shit black magic i don't mickey mouse is a far cry away from the devil
I'm pretty sure I've got a shirt with a pentacle on it somewhere. That count? Plus several books with Pagan iconography on the front cover, and Doctor Who's The Daemons. That count?
having a shirt or a book compared to a shrine basically of devil stuff is another far distance away
People who don't believe in the devil have shrines to it now?
  i don't care what you call it, a shrine of the devil is devil worshiping
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: sokarul on February 23, 2018, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: Here to laugh at you on February 23, 2018, 06:18:08 PM
Hail Santa!

Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: rabinoz on February 23, 2018, 06:47:09 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:07:20 PM
I'm just trying to show how CNN is promoting devil worship
Are CNN Promoting or reporting?  Reporting is what CNN does.

Quote from: andrewchikoski
but laughing at one for exploring a thought which happened to be a flat earth flat earth is a joke
Some of these attempts are quite ludicrous,
when you look at GIZMODO, Flat Earth Rocketeer Once Again Fails To Launch Himself Into The Sky At 500 MPH (https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2018/02/flat-earth-rocketeer-once-again-fails-to-launch-himself-into-the-sky-at-500-mph/) and B.o.B.'s own:
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/jks5t7bwjdmq8ce/The%20cities%20in%20the%20background%20are%20approx.%2016miles%20apart...%20where%20is%20the%20curve%28Q%29%20please%20explain%20this.jpg?dl=1)
B.o.B asks, "The cities in the background are approx. 16miles apart... where is the curve? please explain this."
10:05 AM - Jan 25, 2016
Why would he even expect to see "the curve"?
Even if those cities were joined by a line that followed the curve of the earth perfectly,
that line would deviate from a perfect,y straight line by less than 43 feet - that's about 1 part in 2000, far less than 1 pixel in that photo!
So, B.o.B asks, "Where is the curve? please explain this." The explanation is trivial.

My point is that people like our intrepid "Flat Earth Rocketeer" and  B.o.B need to learn a tremendous lot more about the Globe before they try to debunk it.

Quote from: andrewchikoski
to CNN but devil worship is ok i do see how this is relevant
It might be relevant to CNN's standards of reporting, but they never made any association between Devil worship and the flat earth anyway.

In any case, CNN are no authority on the shape of the earth, so there is not the slightest relevance here to the flat ~ Globe question!
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Twerp on February 23, 2018, 10:32:05 PM
Quote from: rabinoz on February 23, 2018, 06:47:09 PM
Are CNN Promoting or reporting?  Reporting is what CNN does.

Satanists aside, CNN promotes under the guise of reporting.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Macarios on February 24, 2018, 12:06:53 AM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 06:30:33 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 06:16:18 PM
Quote from: Jane on February 23, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 05:02:47 PM
just wondering you got devil photos in your house or any devilish type shit black magic i don't mickey mouse is a far cry away from the devil
I'm pretty sure I've got a shirt with a pentacle on it somewhere. That count? Plus several books with Pagan iconography on the front cover, and Doctor Who's The Daemons. That count?
having a shirt or a book compared to a shrine basically of devil stuff is another far distance away
People who don't believe in the devil have shrines to it now?
  i don't care what you call it, a shrine of the devil is devil worshiping

Model that denies Kingdom of Heaven (Universe) is shrine of devil.

God is giving us new knowledge when He finds that we are ready for it.
Right now God is teaching us how to achieve Space travel.
Devil doesn't want us to develop spaceships and reach Kingdom of Heaven.
Devil wants us all to stay here within his grasp.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Son of Orospu on February 24, 2018, 07:16:17 AM
Though the OP had a reasonably small bit of FE in it, I think this has devolved into a thread mainly about Satanism.  Moving to PR&S.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Pezevenk on February 24, 2018, 09:18:12 AM
Quote from: andrewchikoski on February 23, 2018, 03:33:05 PM
im just showing how CNN is promoting devil worship, you don't find anything wrong with that really, id think even a atheists would have a problem with that, and im sure any real atheists would have a problem with this church claiming to be atheists when in fact there devil worshiping
But they're not worshipping the devil. They're just pretentious hipsters who think they're being edgy by wearing goat masks and whatnot. They're not actually evil. And not actually promoting devil worship.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Bullwinkle on February 24, 2018, 11:01:10 AM
At least they're not holding hands and listening to Rock-n-Roll records.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Pezevenk on February 24, 2018, 11:12:04 AM
Quote from: Bullwinkle on February 24, 2018, 11:01:10 AM
At least they're not holding hands and listening to Rock-n-Roll records.
I heard some are listening to metal though. These ones are going to hell for sure.
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Slemon on February 24, 2018, 11:35:04 AM
I'm pretty sure I worship the Doctor by their standards so *shrugs*

HAIL AZAL
Title: Re: something wrong with this
Post by: Illuminous Operations on May 03, 2019, 04:02:03 PM
Quote: "Modern-day public image of Satanism and moral panics
As a moral panic in the 1980s and the 1990s, there were multiple allegations of sexual abuse and/or sacrifice of children or non-consenting adults in the context of Satanic rituals in what has come to be known as the Satanic Panic.

Allegations included the existence of large networks of organized Satanists involved in illegal activities such as murder, child pornography and prostitution. In the United States, the Kern County child abuse cases, McMartin preschool trial and the West Memphis cases were widely reported. One case took place in Jordan, Minnesota, in which children made allegations of the manufacture of child pornography, ritualistic animal sacrifice, coprophagia, urophagia and infanticide, at which point the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was alerted. Twenty-four adults were arrested and charged with acts of sexual abuse, child pornography and other crimes claimed to be related to Satanic ritual abuse; three went to trial, two were acquitted and one convicted. Supreme Court Justice Scalia noted in a discussion of the case that "there is no doubt that some sexual abuse took place in Jordan; but there is no reason to believe it was as widespread as charged", and cited the repeated, coercive techniques used by the investigators as damaging to the investigation.

These iconic cases were launched after children were repeatedly and coercively interrogated by social workers, resulting in false allegations of child sexual abuse. No evidence was ever found to support any of the allegations of Satanism or ritual abuse, but the panic resulted in numerous wrongful prosecutions.

John Allee, the creator of the LaVeyan website called First Church of Satan, equates some of the "violent fringe" of Satanism with "Devil worshipers" and "reverse Christians". He believes they possibly suffer from a form of psychosis. Between 1992 and 1996, some militant neo-pagans who were participants in the Norwegian black metal scene, such as Varg Vikernes, committed over fifty arsons of Christian churches in and around Oslo as a retaliatory action against Christianity in Norway, but such church-burnings were widely attributed to Satanists.

Some studies of crimes have also looked at the theological perspective of those who commit religious or ritualized crime. Criminals who explain their crimes by claiming to be Satanists have been said by sociologists to be "pseudo-Satanists", and attempts to link Satanism to crime have been seen by theistic Satanists as scaremongering."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_Satanism

The Church of Azazel has some great additional content on this as well.

If you want legit information on human / sex trafficking of children in USA this link sums things up and has lots of additional links citing sources for more information.  Sex trafficking of children is a huge part of organized crime in America.  Very commonplace.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/essence-evil-sex-children-become-big-business-america/5675394

Also that link explains this meme.