The Flat Earth Society
Other Discussion Boards => The Lounge => Topic started by: Pastafarian. on December 26, 2006, 07:52:14 PM
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Think about it, 6 million Jews? That would mean there would be practically no Jews around now. The reason the numbers are so high is because most Jews fled Germany, changing their names and such. Zyklon-B isn't a sufficient chemical to exterminate people on such a mass level.
The reason is the Zionists hyped up the Holocause to fual the war, ending in a new state..Israel!
It all makes sense, doesn't it?
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No, the Holocaust did happen. Hitler was an alien, sent back in time to exterminate the Jews for being a superior race.
200 years from now, an advanced alien race is going to invade Earth. Just when the Human race was starting to lose all hope, the Jews summoned the mighty Moses, and together Moses and the Human race fight off the invaders and save Earth.
But this alien race is full of miserable people, who do not like happy endings. So they sent Hitler back in time to destroy the race who nearly destroyed them.
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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
Have you heard yourself?
ALIEN? you nut job!
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^ Sarcasm. Look it up.
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^ Sarcasm. Look it up.
Crazy, look it up.
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Quality thread.
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You're a Zionist...aren't you?
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Theoretically it's conceivable, but then what about the missing links in ancestry (unless they changed their names) and photographs of--as well as still-standing--concentration camps?
~D-Draw
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I believe the Holocaust is greatly exaggerated and that there was no plan to exterminate European Jewry.
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You have said this already, and you have yet to counter the points I brought up.
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Think about it, 6 million Jews? That would mean there would be practically no Jews around now. The reason the numbers are so high is because most Jews fled Germany, changing their names and such. Zyklon-B isn't a sufficient chemical to exterminate people on such a mass level.
The reason is the Zionists hyped up the Holocause to fual the war, ending in a new state..Israel!
It all makes sense, doesn't it?
I'll have to quote Eddie Izzard on this one...
"Purjury 1 is saying there was no holocaust when over 6 million people died in it, and purjury 9 is saying you shagged someone when you really didn't"...
You sir have committed 1st degree purjury.
No this is not funny. 50 million people died in a war to stop the German war machine, and you turn it into a joke.
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You have said this already, and you have yet to counter the points I brought up.
I know. And I'm not going to.
I like making statements without backing them up with proof. And so does the Flat Earth Society.
The Holocaust was one big Holohoax.
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I like making statements without backing them up with proof. And so does the Flat Earth Society.
It doesn't work that way when there actually is proof, moron. :roll:
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Think about it, 6 million Jews? That would mean there would be practically no Jews around now. The reason the numbers are so high is because most Jews fled Germany, changing their names and such. Zyklon-B isn't a sufficient chemical to exterminate people on such a mass level.
The reason is the Zionists hyped up the Holocause to fual the war, ending in a new state..Israel!
It all makes sense, doesn't it?
You are stupid. Please go to your room and think about what you have done.
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No this is not funny. 50 million people died in a war to stop the German war machine, and you turn it into a joke.
Jokes are not meant to be taken seriously.
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^ Sarcasm. Look it up.
Crazy, look it up.
dumbass, look it up
Refer back to emsters post. :wink:
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I like making statements without backing them up with proof. And so does the Flat Earth Society.
It doesn't work that way when there actually is proof, moron. :roll:
I just don't think it's right that people get imprisoned for questioning the extent of the Holocaust. There were many hoaxes surrounding this tragic event. Take for instance the alleged SS uniforms or clothes made of hair from Jews, or soap made from their skin. People thought this actually happened, because that's what they were taught, until they were revealed to be hoaxes. Who knows what else might never have occured during this period.
And I don't see what the big fuss is all about. I would be glad if the genocide of my people was a fraud or exaggerated. Why? Because less people died. It's not disrespectful, it's historical revisionism. The Zionist Jews are just looking for power through the sympathy of the European peoples.
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I like making statements without backing them up with proof. And so does the Flat Earth Society.
It doesn't work that way when there actually is proof, moron. :roll:
Umm.. hello? Where is the proof?
The Holocaust is real, I knew a "survivor" a few years back, he still had the ID tatoo thingy.
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I like making statements without backing them up with proof. And so does the Flat Earth Society.
It doesn't work that way when there actually is proof, moron. :roll:
Umm.. hello? Where is the proof?
The Holocaust is real, I knew a "survivor" a few years back, he still had the ID tatoo thingy.
And I guess that proves everything! The gas chambers! The "six million"! The human soap! :roll:
Edit- There were without doubt Concentration Camps, but not necessarily Extermination Camps. Do these numbers really prove that there was a plan to exterminate the Jews? Pfft.
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but not necessarily Extermination Camps.
There were three, to be exact.
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but not necessarily Extermination Camps.
There were three, to be exact.
Mhmmm.
Edit- You don't even know the "official" number. The Holocaust lobby says there were six.
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And I don't see what the big fuss is all about. I would be glad if the genocide of my people was a fraud or exaggerated. Why? Because less people died. It's not disrespectful, it's historical revisionism. The Zionist Jews are just looking for power through the sympathy of the European peoples.
Yeah it would be great if it never happened, but it did. And to claim otherwise is disrespectful to those who suffered at the hands of the Nazis.
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but not necessarily Extermination Camps.
There were three, to be exact.
Mhmmm.
Edit- You don't even know the "official" number. The Holocaust lobby says there were six.
You are right, there were six.
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And I guess that proves everything! The gas chambers! The "six million"! The human soap! :roll:
Edit- There were without doubt Concentration Camps, but not necessarily Extermination Camps. Do these numbers really prove that there was a plan to exterminate the Jews? Pfft.
Have you seen Auschwitz? What else would be going on over there? They must've just shoved a bunch of Jews in there and wafted in different scents.
"Hey, guys...What's this smell like to you?"
"Smells like hamburgers, Jack."
It wasn't an extermination camp, it was a research and development focus group!
~D-Draw
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And I don't see what the big fuss is all about. I would be glad if the genocide of my people was a fraud or exaggerated. Why? Because less people died. It's not disrespectful, it's historical revisionism. The Zionist Jews are just looking for power through the sympathy of the European peoples.
Yeah it would be great if it never happened, but it did. And to claim otherwise is disrespectful to those who suffered at the hands of the Nazis.
To claim it never happened is disrespectful. The number 'six million' is highly inaccurate. I believe lots of Jews were killed, but not in a planned extermination and not six million of them. That is not disrespectful in my opinion.
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To be fair, guys, this guy does not come across as anti sementic. Just, very very ignorant.
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To be fair, guys, this guy does not come across as anti sementic. Just, very very ignorant.
Sementic?
It's not ignorant at all in my opinion.
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To be fair, guys, this guy does not come across as anti sementic. Just, very very ignorant.
Sementic?
It's not ignorant at all in my opinion.
You seem to underestimate Adolph Hitler, you think he didnt know that Germany's Jewish population was being slaughtered? Its something that would attract my attention.
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To be fair, guys, this guy does not come across as anti sementic. Just, very very ignorant.
Sementic?
It's not ignorant at all in my opinion.
You seem to underestimate Adolph Hitler, you think he didnt know that Germany's Jewish population was being slaughtered? Its something that would attract my attention.
The highest officers in the Nazi state had incredible power and influence, enough to keep it secret from Führer Adolf Hitler. And keeping a secret like that shouldn't be hard when the camps are in a different country and if not that many were killed (which is my belief). The mass killings weren't a state policy.
Remember the Armenian Genocide? It's almost completely forgotten now. And I bet that almost no one here has even heard about the Serbian Genocide committed by the Croatian Ustaše (this event is recorded as a part of the Holocaust). Almost a million Serbs were killed in gruesome ways. Even the Nazis were impressed/shocked by their methods of slaughter.
The Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust goddamnit. They're getting way too much sympathy and attention. It's time to forget about this. And it's time for Germany to stop giving money to Israel. Who made that stupid law anyway? The Jews didn't die recently. This was 60 years ago! I say stop tormenting the German people and making them feel guilty for something they weren't responsible for.
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The Jews were not the only victims of the Holocaust goddamnit. They're getting way too much sympathy and attention.
Sounds to me like somebody needs a hug.
(http://www.camelotbears.com/images/bear_hug_poster.jpg)
It's time to forget about this.
Here's a quick question, do you think it is brought up more often by holocaust deniers or by people who believe the holocaust occured?
If you want it to be forgotten the worst thing you can do is deny it.
And it's time for Germany to stop giving money to Israel. Who made that stupid law anyway?
As far as I know you did. If not please let me know how much they give and if there's any official websites I can read about it.
The Jews didn't die recently.
I'm sure some of them have.
This was 60 years ago!
Well done, yes it was over 60 years ago.
I say stop tormenting the German people and making them feel guilty for something they weren't responsible for.
Who's tormenting the German people? Most everybody I know hold this as evidence of how dispicable Hitler was.
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Think about it, 6 million Jews?
If that number was correct, it would be the first in the history of war.
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Holocaust did happen. :roll:
Stupid Ass.
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Well my first post was going to be elsewhere, but being quite into WWII I couldn't pass this up, and it's frankly quite shocking it took until the second page for somebody to mention that it wasn't just jews. The groups, among others persecuted and subsequently shot, then gassed because Himmler had a weak stomach are...
*Jews (duh)
*Gypsies & Didacoys
*Trade Unionists
*Socialists
*Mentally Disabled
*Political Activists
*Homosexuals
All in all, the Nazis were nasty to a whole lot of people. And to reassure the person who brought up the Armenian genocide, some people do really know about it. At least in this country.
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Theoretically it's conceivable, but then what about the missing links in ancestry (unless they changed their names) and photographs of--as well as still-standing--concentration camps?
~D-Draw
Wait a minute...an FE'er who just used the word "photograph" as evidence? Awesome!
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*Homosexuals
Sort of ironic in a horribly sickening way, if you think about how many of the Nazis were gay, and promoted for being gay (or pretending so they could be promoted).
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As far as I know you did. If not please let me know how much they give and if there's any official websites I can read about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germany
Germany is still paying the State of Israel and will continue doing so until every Holocaust survivor is dead. To this day Germany is compensating 120 000 survivors.
Thanks for the hug.
Sort of ironic in a horribly sickening way, if you think about how many of the Nazis were gay, and promoted for being gay (or pretending so they could be promoted).
Never in my life have I heard of this.
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Sort of ironic in a horribly sickening way, if you think about how many of the Nazis were gay, and promoted for being gay (or pretending so they could be promoted).
Never in my life have I heard of this.
As much as I disagree with RedSkull, I have to say I've never heard of this either. Would you mind posting a link to something on this, Ubuntu?
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Sort of ironic in a horribly sickening way, if you think about how many of the Nazis were gay, and promoted for being gay (or pretending so they could be promoted).
Never in my life have I heard of this.
As much as I disagree with RedSkull, I have to say I've never heard of this either. Would you mind posting a link to something on this, Ubuntu?
There are several sources of questionable reliability supporting this assertion, mostly based on the claim that the leadership of the Stormtroopers (SA), Hitler's early power base, was homosexual; however all reliable sources indicate is that Rohm, leader of the SA, was rumored to be homosexual, and that after the SA reformed to prominence (after being banned for several years) he staffed the leadership with friends who were also rumored to be gay. Somehow one important Nazi being a supposed gay translates to 'the gays helped the Nazis to power'. Certainly the Nazi party itself did not approve of homosexuality. However, the Nazi reaction to homosexuality was not cut-and-dried homophobia; they often performed experiments on gays in the camp, even so far as (according to some reports) forced, crude sex change operations.
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Wait a minute...an FE'er who just used the word "photograph" as evidence? Awesome!
It's a completely different matter. I don't think there are claims of a conspiracy, or at least not one that would be organized enough to throw together photographs. Wait to be a pretentious douche.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germany
Germany is still paying the State of Israel and will continue doing so until every Holocaust survivor is dead. To this day Germany is compensating 120 000 survivors.
Wow, I've never heard about that before. That is actually really, really ridiculous. I suppose, though, it's different for the actual survivors, since they were involved. What I can't stand even more, though, is when people talk about slavery and stuff, and make it seem as if the white people in America are still responsible for reparating the black people in America.
:roll:
~D-Draw
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I suggest you go and read your own source. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reparations_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germany)
Germany is still paying the State of Israel and will continue doing so until every Holocaust survivor is dead.
Please show me where in the link that you posted it says that Germany is still paying the State of Israel or provide another link.
So far as I can tell Germany (the state) isn't paying the State of Israel anything any more.
...West Germany paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over the next fourteen years; 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family...
That's what the German State paid and that was started in 1953.
To be fair to you, there is still compensation being paid and also compensation being sought after. There are basically three areas:
- Companies compensating for slave labour.
- Insurance companies paying out insurance.
- Germany compensating Holocaust survivors in the USA.
in the 1990s, Jews began making claims for property stolen in Eastern Europe. Various groups also began investigating what happened to money deposited in Swiss banks by Jews outside of Switzerland who were later murdered in the Holocaust, and what happened to money deposited by various Nazis in Swiss banks. In addition, individual companies (many of them based in Germany) began to be pressured by survivor groups to compensate former forced laborers . Among them are Deutsche Bank AG, Siemens AG, Bayerische Motoren Werke AG (BMW), Volkswagen AG, and Adam Opel GmbH. In response, early in 1999, the German government proclaimed the establishment of a fund with monies from these companies to help needy Holocaust survivors. A similar fund was set up by the Swiss, as was a Hungarian fund for compensation of Holocaust victims and their heirs. At the close of the 1990s, discussions of compensation by insurance companies that had insured Jews before the war and who were later murdered by the Nazis were held. These companies include Alliance, AXA, Assicurazioni Generali, Zürich Financial Services Group, Winterhur, and Baloise Insurance Group. With the help of information about Holocaust victims made available by Yad Vashem, an international commission under former US Secretary of State, Lawrence Eagleburger, has been trying to uncover the names of those who had been insured and died in the Holocaust.The World Jewish Restitution Organization was created to organize these efforts. On behalf of US citizens, the US Foreign Claims Settlement Commission reached agreements with the German government in 1998 and 1999 to compensate Holocaust victims who immigrated to the US after the war.
You're wrong: Germany doesn't pay Israel. The only thing Germany will be paying is holocaust survivors that went to the USA. This won't be an ongoing payment until they die but will be much like the compensation they paid to Israel. I'm sure Germany can easily afford it.
To this day Germany is compensating 120,000 survivors.
Now where did you get this figure from? It certainly isn't from your source you posted. You also don't mention how much they're compensating and for how long.
I suggest you read through a source you post before you post it unless you enjoy your own sources contradicting you.
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Wow, I've never heard about that before. That is actually really, really ridiculous. I suppose, though, it's different for the actual survivors, since they were involved.
If you read through the source he posted it tells a different story to what he's saying.
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Wow, midgard you are dense.
Scroll down to External links and click on the first link.
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What I can't stand even more, though, is when people talk about slavery and stuff, and make it seem as if the white people in America are still responsible for reparating the black people in America.
:roll:
Yeah that is ridiculous. It's called White guilt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_guilt).
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Wow...even more stupidity in this forum. (I'm German btw)
Even though denying or trivialising the holocaust is one of the most stupid/... things you can do I also have to say that it's not fair to blame today's Germans or to say that it's a country full of Nazis (bot nobody here does, so I don't see a problem). There are much more Nazis (e.g.) in America and other 'countries' did very very horrible things, too. Of course that doesn't make the holocaust 'better'. But sometimes I feel like people from other countries don't see what their own country did - and even worse: still does. Instead they refer to the holocaust and think everything is harmless in comparison...which is total nonsense. Even though we have some problems with Neonazis at the moment, Germany doesn't kill people - in contrary to loads of other countries.
Probably Albert Einstein would move back to Germany today...
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Probably Albert Einstein would move back to Germany today...
Why? He belongs in Israel..
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Think about it, 6 million Jews? That would mean there would be practically no Jews around now. The reason the numbers are so high is because most Jews fled Germany, changing their names and such. Zyklon-B isn't a sufficient chemical to exterminate people on such a mass level.
The reason is the Zionists hyped up the Holocaust to fuel the war, ending in a new state..Israel!
It all makes sense, doesn't it?
No.
You argue about how many, as if it wasn't so bad if it was only 3 million instead of 6 million. You state that is 6 million were killed there'd be none left. The estimated Jewish population of Europe at the time was close to 10,000,000.
The Holocaust included nearly another 5,000,000 of non-Jewish people, one of the largest groups of these were Christian Poles. I suppose that was just "Made up" to fill out the story?
If the Zionists were really had the kind of power and influence you suggest, why the debacle over Jerusalem? They would have simply insisted that it be part of Israel, instead of sharing it.
Reading through this thread is kind of a joy. Not because some people are so quick to try to rewrite history, but because so many are quick to speak out against it, that people realize how important it is to remember and to fight back when it happens again.
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Not because some people are so quick to try to rewrite history, but because so many are quick to speak out against it, that people realize how important it is to remember and to fight back when it happens again.
But it isn't astonishing that people who believe that the earth is flat are quick in trying to rewrite history...
However, you're right. People often think that it's all over, but things like that can happen everywhere and anytime (e.g. what the Americans did to the Indians) - so we shouldn't forget and keep our eyes open. The Holocaust didn't show us anything about the Germans, Hitler or whoever, but about the whole humanity.
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Not because some people are so quick to try to rewrite history, but because so many are quick to speak out against it, that people realize how important it is to remember and to fight back when it happens again.
But it isn't astonishing that people who believe that the earth is flat are quick in trying to rewrite history...
However, you're right. People often think that it's all over, but things like that can happen everywhere and anytime (e.g. what the Americans did to the Indians) - so we shouldn't forget and keep our eyes open. The Holocaust didn't show us anything about the Germans, Hitler or whoever, but about the whole humanity.
It's in our nature. Why fight nature?
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Because we don't only consist of drives, but also reason. We have an autonomous will and are therefore responsible for what we do.
If we want a society to work it's our duty to do what's 'right'.
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Because we don't only consist of drives, but also reason. We have an autonomous will and are therefore responsible for what we do.
If we want a society to work it's our duty to do what's 'right'.
Though I usually don't agree with you, I can't argue against this one...
I've heard it said that man (ok, and woman) is the only animal that would stumble over the same stone twice. History seems to support this claim.
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Probably Albert Einstein would move back to Germany today...
Why? He belongs in Israel..
How would he belong in Israel? He came from a Jewish family, but he certainly was not Jewish.
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Probably Albert Einstein would move back to Germany today...
Why? He belongs in Israel..
How would he belong in Israel? He came from a Jewish family, but he certainly was not Jewish.
There is such a thing as an ethnic Jew.
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So? I'm ethnically Jewish, do I 'belong' in Israel?
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So? I'm ethnically Jewish, do I 'belong' in Israel?
That's for a different topic. I shouldn't have mentioned it. Sorry.
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Not because some people are so quick to try to rewrite history, but because so many are quick to speak out against it, that people realize how important it is to remember and to fight back when it happens again.
But it isn't astonishing that people who believe that the earth is flat are quick in trying to rewrite history...
FET is irrelevant to this discussion, quit trying to be cute.
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Not because some people are so quick to try to rewrite history, but because so many are quick to speak out against it, that people realize how important it is to remember and to fight back when it happens again.
But it isn't astonishing that people who believe that the earth is flat are quick in trying to rewrite history...
FET is irrelevant to this discussion, quit trying to be cute.
He still owned all of you though.
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Social Darwinism is a scary societal mutation of Darwinism.
Symptoms include extreme racial, religious, ethnic, political, and other forms of intolerance on a sociological scale. May result in oppression, genocide, slavery. and war.
Take two tablets of free-speech and open education and rest.
Jews lying about the holocaust? Occam's razor fellas. The detractor's explanations as to what actually happened in their opinion always have way too many variables. Whereas the witnesses' accounts and stories do not, and generally are extremely similar and verifiable from other accounts and undestroyed Nazi documentation.
Simpler > More complicated
Red Skull, would it not be more useful to apply your skepticism to something potentially more fruitful?
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Not because some people are so quick to try to rewrite history, but because so many are quick to speak out against it, that people realize how important it is to remember and to fight back when it happens again.
But it isn't astonishing that people who believe that the earth is flat are quick in trying to rewrite history...
FET is irrelevant to this discussion, quit trying to be cute.
But I am cute. I can't do anything about that.
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Jews lying about the holocaust? Occam's razor fellas.
Truth is the first casualty of war: Occam's razor says 6 million is a lie. If you believe the 6 million figure, you're naive.
Of course they tell lies. Of course they shift the blame for Churchill's and Stalin's anti-semitism onto Hitler.
It's known as Victor's Justice.
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Red Skull, would it not be more useful to apply your skepticism to something potentially more fruitful?
No. I like to provoke people.
It's known as Victor's Justice.
Quoted for truth.
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Why is it always the Holocaust? Why can't we deny the invention of the telephone? Or the construction of the pyramids?
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The telephone was never really invented.
And remember, the Holocaust took 6 million LIVES, not necessarily the number of JEWS. And also, on that note, Stalin's kills are usually factored into this.
In the same, there has never been any viable resource to count the exact number of deaths during that time either, most that place it at 6 million are estimating.
There have only been roughly 2.8 million confirmed deaths attributed to the holocaust itself. Still a great number, but nowhere near 6 million. I'll post the source when I relocate it.
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The telephone was never really invented.
And remember, the Holocaust took 6 million LIVES, not necessarily the number of JEWS. And also, on that note, Stalin's kills are usually factored into this.
In the same, there has never been any viable resource to count the exact number of deaths during that time either, most that place it at 6 million are estimating.
There have only been roughly 2.8 million confirmed deaths attributed to the holocaust itself. Still a great number, but nowhere near 6 million. I'll post the source when I relocate it.
Interesting. I would like to see that source.
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Probably Albert Einstein would move back to Germany today...
Why? He belongs in Israel..
How would he belong in Israel? He came from a Jewish family, but he certainly was not Jewish.
There is such a thing as an ethnic Jew.
Again I ask, why does that mean he belongs in Israel? I'm "ethnic protestant," does that mean I belong in Southeast USA even though I'm atheist? You are ridiculous.
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It's known as Victor's Justice.
Quoted for truth.
Twice in one lifetime?
When you're hot, you're hot.
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Probably Albert Einstein would move back to Germany today...
Why? He belongs in Israel..
How would he belong in Israel? He came from a Jewish family, but he certainly was not Jewish.
There is such a thing as an ethnic Jew.
Again I ask, why does that mean he belongs in Israel? I'm "ethnic protestant," does that mean I belong in Southeast USA even though I'm atheist? You are ridiculous.
There is no such thing as an ethnic protestant.
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The telephone was never really invented.
And remember, the Holocaust took 6 million LIVES, not necessarily the number of JEWS. And also, on that note, Stalin's kills are usually factored into this.
Actually the total amount of people killed is estimated at around 9,000,000 to 11,000,000 while the total number of Jews killed is estimated at around 5,000,000 to 7,000,000 - usually stated as 6,000,000.
"Stalin's Kills" are not factored into this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust
Stalin, on the other hand, had around 1,500,000 people killed, and was responsible for the deaths of a varying amount - maybe about 10,000,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin
The holocaust really happened. People who deny it are wrong.
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The holocaust really happened. People who deny it are wrong.
And that, of course, is your opinion. I think you are wrong.
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There is overwhelming evidence in support of the claim that Holocaust happened. For example one of my neighbours is a Jewish woman whose parents were killed in the Holocaust. Do you honestly believe that this woman is lying to me about that?
The evidence that the holocaust did not happen is so weak and usually misleading that anybody who takes that side is clearly deluded.
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There is overwhelming evidence in support of the claim that Holocaust happened. For example one of my neighbours is a Jewish woman whose parents were killed in the Holocaust. Do you honestly believe that this woman is lying to me about that?
The evidence that the holocaust did not happen is so weak and usually misleading that anybody who takes that side is clearly deluded.
I do not believe that it "didn't happen". I simply believe it is exaggerated.
Edit: beast, I know you're not an FE'er, but to all the FE'ers: Do you honestly believe every government official all over the planet is lying to you about the shape of the world?
beast, why don't you ask that question to the FE'ers?
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I am a FEer.
edit: Also why would every government official know what shape the world really is? Surely only a small amount of people actually need to be in on the conspiracy. Do you honestly think that it is necessary for the political advisor to a member of the Tasmanian Parliament to know what shape the world is?
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The telephone was never really invented.
And remember, the Holocaust took 6 million LIVES, not necessarily the number of JEWS. And also, on that note, Stalin's kills are usually factored into this.
Actually the total amount of people killed is estimated at around 9,000,000 to 11,000,000 while the total number of Jews killed is estimated at around 5,000,000 to 7,000,000 - usually stated as 6,000,000.
"Stalin's Kills" are not factored into this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust
Stalin, on the other hand, had around 1,500,000 people killed, and was responsible for the deaths of a varying amount - maybe about 10,000,000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin
The holocaust really happened. People who deny it are wrong.
Figures provided by WIKIPEDIA.
Sorry, not a valid source. I could change it to that 1 million of the 1.5 that Stalin had killed farted before death.
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Well why don't you do that and then see how long it takes to be changed.
My book "A History In Fragments: Europe in the Twentieth Century" by Dr Richard Vinen - who is on the academic staff at King's College - University of London and was also a fellow at Trinity College - Cambridge University - puts forward those same approximate figures. He claims that about 6 million Jews were killed as part of a wider campaign against "inferiority" which killed about 10 million people (part 2; chapter 8 - Genocide - pg 240). He also claims that Stalin directly killed around 1.5 million people and was responsible for the deaths of millions more (part 4, chapter 1 - How Communism Lost - pg 475) The book was first published in Great Britain in 2000 by Little, Brown and Company and my edition was printed by Abacus in 2002.
Here is the Amazon.com listing for the book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/History-Fragments-Europe-Twentieth-Century/dp/0316853747
Is that a valid source?
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Its virtually impossible to count the number of deaths with an event like that. It could have been closer to 20 million or as little as 500,000. Thats what happens when you INCINERATE bodies as well as bury them.
Unprovable, why argue?
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Unprovable :?
Don't you think places have records of the population of the towns, electoral records, census records etc?
How do you think they know that over 275,000 people died in the boxing day tsunami. How could they count all the bodies that got washed into the sea?
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Your talking something that happened in a day of "modern" technology, none the less of an event that occurred to a people group that was not in the process of being shuffled about.
There is no records based way to count all the people that died in the holocaust. As unfortunate as it is, its true. The tsunami's victims can be counted within a pretty small margin of error due to modern records keeping practices. Think of how many people arrived at Ellis Island back in the early 1900's that didn't have any paperwork to identify them of even existing to their native land. THen think of the Jew's in the holocaust. They never even had a "homeland" until after WWII, they had been constantly focibly relocating for decades. Thats why it could have been nearly any number.
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Your talking something that happened in a day of "modern" technology, none the less of an event that occurred to a people group that was not in the process of being shuffled about.
That doesn't make any sense. Re-write it and learn how to construct sentences. Preferably the latter first.
There is no records based way to count all the people that died in the holocaust. As unfortunate as it is, its true. The tsunami's victims can be counted within a pretty small margin of error due to modern records keeping practices. Think of how many people arrived at Ellis Island back in the early 1900's that didn't have any paperwork to identify them of even existing to their native land. THen think of the Jew's in the holocaust. They never even had a "homeland" until after WWII, they had been constantly focibly relocating for decades. Thats why it could have been nearly any number.
If you're going to make this ludicrous claims then put forward some evidence to show why this would be the case. The Jews in question had been living in Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland for generations. We're also talking about central Europe where, despite the previous war, people had wealth, government and technology, as opposed to Ache where the people dying were peasants. The wealth of the Jews was part of the reason why Hitler attacked them. There can be no question that the record keeping in those areas was as accurate as the record keeping now. We're talking about the 1930s developed Europe here. You will find great accounts of this in many history books, including the one I sourced earlier. If you question evidence you haven't seen it just makes you look ignorant.
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The only thing you have proven in your various threads is that you are yet another internet douchebag who will only argue just to spurn a conversation into oblivion.
If YOU can prove the record keeping was accurate at the time, by all means do so. If you can prove that EVERY SINGLE JEW was accounted for by documentation, I will stand down. Until then your just another arrogant debator who cannot meet in the middle and at least agree that there is no way to fully account for all the people died there whether it be less or more, the relavent fact is that a SHITLOAD of people died horrific deaths. Its becoming a moot point.
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So what you're saying is that you've made some stupid claims and you have no evidence to actually back those claims up. Thanks for the clarification.
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However, you're right. People often think that it's all over, but things like that can happen everywhere and anytime (e.g. what the Americans did to the Indians) - so we shouldn't forget and keep our eyes open. The Holocaust didn't show us anything about the Germans, Hitler or whoever, but about the whole humanity.
It's in our nature. Why fight nature?
Because it's not our nature. Look around you, the majority do not behave that way, do not want these things to happen.
But it is natural to avoid conflict, and ignore things until it comes to affect you directly, and by then it is normally too late. That piece of human nature is the challenge, and we must learn to take off the blinders.
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I am a FEer.
edit: Also why would every government official know what shape the world really is? Surely only a small amount of people actually need to be in on the conspiracy. Do you honestly think that it is necessary for the political advisor to a member of the Tasmanian Parliament to know what shape the world is?
I'm holding a gun to your head, and I ask you "What shape is the world?" And you know I have the right answer, and that I will shoot you if you guess it wrong, would you honestly answer "The world is flat."? I seriously doubt you would take that risk, because it is more likely that the world is spherical.
And I can't be arsed replying to the other things you wrote. I don't believe the Holocaust was exaggerated because it's logical, I believe it is because it's fun to provoke people. So in the end your arguments on why the Holocaust wasn't exaggerated would own mine.
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I'm holding a gun to your head, and I ask you "What shape is the world?" And you know I have the right answer, and that I will shoot you if you guess it wrong, would you honestly answer "The world is flat."? I seriously doubt you would take that risk, because it is more likely that the world is spherical.
This scenario is so flawed it hurts. First, clearly he doesn't know you have the right answer (ie: that the world is spherical), or he wouldn't believe the earth is round. Next, you assume that you have the right answer. The wager here isn't whether or not the earth is truly flat, but whether the psychopath holding a gun to your head and asking you questions about the shape of the earth thinks it is.
I don't believe the Holocaust was exaggerated because it's logical, I believe it is because it's fun to provoke people.
For the record, this makes you a total dick.
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The holocaust really happened. People who deny it are wrong.
And that, of course, is your opinion. I think you are wrong.
Not opinion...
FACT
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Not opinion...
FACT
And that, of course, is your opinion. I think you are wrong.
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Probably Albert Einstein would move back to Germany today...
Why? He belongs in Israel..
How would he belong in Israel? He came from a Jewish family, but he certainly was not Jewish.
There is such a thing as an ethnic Jew.
Again I ask, why does that mean he belongs in Israel? I'm "ethnic protestant," does that mean I belong in Southeast USA even though I'm atheist? You are ridiculous.
There is no such thing as an ethnic protestant.
There is such a thing as being from protestant background, though. Three of my uncles are Lutheran ministers. My mother and father were both Lutheran. I am atheist. You are basically alluding that even though I deny the existence of a personal god, I am still Lutheran and belong in the Bible Belt? With Jews and Israel, it is the same thing. Albert Einstein was not Jewish, and I don't see how you can say that he belonged in Israel.
How racist can you get?
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Albert Einstein was not Jewish,
A Jew who sheds his faith along the way, or who even picks up a different one, is still a Jew.
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What so you think he belongs in Israel too? What point are you trying to make, Erasmus?
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What so you think he belongs in Israel too? What point are you trying to make, Erasmus?
You're pretty dense.
There are religious Jews and ethnic Jews, also known as Israelis.
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Bullshit. They are middle eastern.
At any rate, Albert Einstein is not in that case an "ethnic Jew".
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At any rate, Albert Einstein is not in that case an "ethnic Jew".
According to ethnology, Einstein, since he came from an ethnically Jewish family, is ethnically Jewish. According to his own statement, he is... some other kind of Jew.
I'm not drawing any conclusions from that; I'm just stating it.
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Then I am an ethnic Protestant.
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I think in terms of religious belief or cultural traditions, Einstein didn't follow Judaism at all. However I think the term "Jew" usually refers to ethnicity rather than practice. I know two Jewish people who sometimes follow the practices, but don't actually believe in God at all.
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Then I am an ethnic Protestant.
There is no such thing. How old are you?
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Who are you to say there is no such thing?
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Who are you to say there is no such thing?
Do you even know what ethnicity is? And you didn't answer my previous question.
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(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5745/401721einsteinwtongueolrw6.jpg)
One has a feeling that one has a kind of home in this timeless community of human beings that strive for truth. … I have always believed that Jesus meant by the Kingdom of God the small group scattered all through time of intellectually and ethically valuable people.
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Who are you to say there is no such thing?
Do you even know what ethnicity is? And you didn't answer my previous question.
Do you? Ethnicity is not some black line dividing groups. It is a fluid concept.
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Then I am an ethnic Protestant.
There is no such thing. How old are you?
Sure, tell that to the Irish.
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Who are you to say there is no such thing?
Do you even know what ethnicity is? And you didn't answer my previous question.
My age is irrelevant. You're not going to start discriminating that way either.
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My age is irrelevant. You're not going to start discriminating that way either.
I'm just curious, that's all.
Jews have been an ethnicity for more than 5 000 years, because they have always been an isolated bunch, hence their distinct (preserved?) Armenoid features and genetics. Their genetic make up is different from that of other ethnic groups. Take the prevalence of Tay-Sachs disease among Jewish people for instance. Now that can't be because of their religion now can it? Is there a common disease in the "Protestant Ethnicity" as well, thedigitalnomad?
Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים, Yehudim; Yiddish: ייִדן, Yidn) are followers of Judaism or, more generally, members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation, or the Children of Israel), an ethno-religious group descended from the ancient Israelites and from converts who joined their religion.
Thus I draw the conclusion that there are religious Jews and ethnic Jews. The National Socialists weren't stupid enough that they would kill six million (I still find that number outrageous and hilarious) people from a mere religious group. They had racial (ethnic) purity in mind as well.
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My age is irrelevant. You're not going to start discriminating that way either.
I'm just curious, that's all.
Jews have been an ethnicity for more than 5 000 years, because they have always been an isolated bunch, hence their distinct (preserved?) Armenoid features and genetics. Their genetic make up is different from that of other ethnic groups. Take the prevalence of Tay-Sachs disease among Jewish people for instance. Now that can't be because of their religion now can it? Is there a common disease in the "Protestant Ethnicity" as well, thedigitalnomad?
Yeah, it's called Christianity. :P
Jews (Hebrew: יְהוּדִים, Yehudim; Yiddish: ייִדן, Yidn) are followers of Judaism or, more generally, members of the Jewish people (also known as the Jewish nation, or the Children of Israel), an ethno-religious group descended from the ancient Israelites and from converts who joined their religion.
Thus I draw the conclusion that there are religious Jews and ethnic Jews. The National Socialists weren't stupid enough that they would kill six million (I still find that number outrageous and hilarious) people from a mere religious group. They had racial (ethnic) purity in mind as well.
I still don't understand the motivation for your comment that Albert Einstein belonged in Israel.
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Yeah, it's called Christianity. :P
LOL! You got me there. :lol:
I still don't understand the motivation for your comment that Albert Einstein belonged in Israel.
He was more Jewish then he was German, not ethnically, but culturally. Israel is where his heart was at. I have yet to see a quote where Albert Einstein speaks highly of Germany.
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I still don't understand the motivation for your comment that Albert Einstein belonged in Israel.
He was more Jewish then he was German, not ethnically, but culturally. Israel is where his heart was at. I have yet to see a quote where Albert Einstein speaks highly of Germany.
I can agree with not belonging in Germany, but I still don't see how he would belong in Israel. I have yet to see a quote where he speaks highly of Israel.
I personally think nationalism needs to die a very quick, but painful death. These fictional borders that separate us all are a bunch of bullshit.
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I still don't understand the motivation for your comment that Albert Einstein belonged in Israel.
He was more Jewish then he was German, not ethnically, but culturally. Israel is where his heart was at. I have yet to see a quote where Albert Einstein speaks highly of Germany.
I can agree with not belonging in Germany, but I still don't see how he would belong in Israel. I have yet to see a quote where he speaks highly of Israel.
I personally think nationalism needs to die a very quick, but painful death. These fictional borders that separate us all are a bunch of bullshit.
Some people and cultures need to be separated in my opinion. For preservation, and other reasons.
Albert Einstein was a Zionist, but not a nationalist in the fullest sense. More like a 'mild nationalist'.
Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#Political_views
Every Zionist belongs in Israel. It would be stupid if I were to further the advancement of the Serbian nation and people when I'm currently living in Sweden, using Sweden's money and resources. If I'm living in Sweden I should be working for Sweden, not for Serbia. Doing that is parasitic.
I think it's safe to say that the Zionist and Holocaust lobby groups outside of Israel are parasites.
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Every Zionist belongs in Israel.
Does this mean that you believe that the state of Israel should exist?
A wise king disperseth evil men; a fool gathers them.
- Proverb of King Solomon
As jews are people like us (unlike those who choose to practice sodomy), I have personally always believed that sodomy is infinitely worse than adherence to the jewish religion or even something as deplorable as zionist politics, and that persons guilty of sodomy should be placed in pits and literally burned to ashes, and that persons who defend them should be punished by receiving a specified number of painful blows with wooden sticks.
Never the less, people who declare that the racist Protocols of the Zionist leaders are a forgery are defending racism no less than those who defend George Bush. Perhaps you may find the following sites informative:
www.codoh.com
www.honestmediatoday.com
One of the beauties of the works by jewish writer Lenni Brenner (and others as well) is that they expose in great detail the history of zionist cooperation with Nazi Germany before and throughout the entirety of World War II:
www.codoh.com/zionweb/zizad/zizad.html
By the way, protestantism is not Christian.
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By the way, protestantism is not Christian.
Ignoring the rest of your post (which I have to say... Wow. And not in such a good way), "protestantism" and Christianity depends on your definition of what it is to be a Christian. My definition is simple: A Christian is anyone who believes that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of mankind. Protestants are certainly included in this group.
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I oppose the State of Israel and its existence. I'm too tired to say anything else at the moment.
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A Christian is anyone who believes that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Savior of mankind. Protestants are certainly included in this group.
Protestants certainly are included in the group of "anyone who believes that Jesus Christ is the Lord and Saviour of mankind," but most people in that group are not Christian.
You and I define "Christian" utterly differently. This fact is of the gravest significance, and great misunderstanding would be created in people who thought we were speaking of the same thing by mere use of the same word. The defining difference is probably due to profoundly different beliefs about these things. I acknowledge both your freedom and mine to believe as we will, but I can never the less imagine what you might think of the comments in the post above.(You would probably considre my definition of Christian as incomparably narrow to which I would reply guilty as charged, but the Orthodox Christian Church (of the Julian Calendar) is demonstrably the only one acknowledged by God and unchanged from its inception - unlike innumerable imitators such as ishmaelites, papists, uniates, protestants, and oecumenists. Groups of people who BELIEVE DOGMATICALLY DIFFERENT (and even fight each other) cannot both be Christians.
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I oppose the State of Israel and its existence.
You are not alone in your opposition to the state of Israel and its existence:
www.nkusa.org
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/nk.html
http://headheeb.blogmosis.com/archives/014939.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta
www.jewsnotzionists.org
www.jewsagainstzionism.com
The list of religious jewish organizaions above is not exhaustive. Also many non-religious secular jews oppose and have opposed the existence of the state of Israel and zionism.
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persons guilty of sodomy should be placed in pits and literally burned to ashes, and that persons who defend them should be punished by receiving a specified number of painful blows with wooden sticks.
You asked your girlfriend for anal sex and it backfired didnt it?
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Issac Hunt,
You are a nigger as your comment was very niggardly, rude, and disrespectful.
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This is the last time I am deleting your post. Repeat it and you will guarantee a permanent ban. I am not biased. I have no personal issues with you and no reason to favor Isaac Hunt. Yes, Isaac's comment was rude. Yes, you have the right to be angry. But the moderators are not here to force everyone to be polite. Racist comments, however, fall under the class of things we will not tolerate.
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I am not biased. I have no ... reason to favor Issac Hunt.
the moderators are not here to force everyone to be polite.
Obviously. You take sides by silencing a victim and ignoring the attacker.
You are definitely attempting to force me to be polite while favoring Issac Hunt by ignoring the initial provocative comment he made.
I have given you the opportunity to completely defuse the situation, and you are refusing it.
Either be fair or get out of the situation because your course of action is adding fuel to the fire.
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I am not attempting to force you to be polite, nor will I do the same to Isaac Hunt. I don't care if you call him an idiot, etc. I don't care if you insult him. It is not my purpose to enforce politeness. I do however have a problem when you claim that he is inferior simply because he belongs to a specific group of people. That is hate speech, and is not merely against forum policy but is illegal.
Oh, and by the way: 'niggardly' and 'nigger' are not etymologically related. What do you think you will accomplish by making such a pathetic attempt to excuse your statement?
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Anyway, continuing where DigitalNomad's discussion with Red Skull left off before being interrupted by the two boneheads,
I would like to add that capitalism is a disease common to both protestantism and judaism. According to 'The Jews and Modern Capitalism' by Werner Sombart, capitalism is more a characteristic of judaism which has penetrated many civilizations. The economic activity of the Arabs grew and declined according to the number of Jews in Arab lands. When Jews moved to Britain, the British Empire came into being, and protestantism was capitalist because powerful Jewish elements within it caused protestantism to have such a character.
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I am not attempting to force you to be polite, nor will I do the same to Isaac Hunt. I don't care if you call him an idiot, etc. I don't care if you insult him. It is not my purpose to enforce politeness. I do however have a problem when you claim that he is inferior simply because he belongs to a specific group of people. That is hate speech, and is not merely against forum policy but is illegal.
'niggardly' and 'nigger' are not etymologically related.
This is false. "Niggard" and "nigger" are obviously etymologically related as anyone can tell by glancing at the words. They also have cross-references to one another in various thesaurus. Here is a list of synonyms from an edition of Roget's under the general category of DISRESPECT which is what I was returning:
"929. Disrespect.
N. disrespect, disesteem, disestimation[obs3]; disparagement &c. (dispraise) 932, (detraction) 934.
irreverence; slight, neglect, spretae injuria formae [Lat][Vergil], superciliousness &c. (contempt) 930.
vilipendency|, vilification, contumely, affront, dishonor, insult, indignity, outrage, discourtesy &c. 895; practical joking; scurrility, scoffing, sibilance, hissing, sibilation; irrision[obs3]; derision; mockery; irony &c. (ridicule) 856; sarcasm.
hiss, hoot, boo, gibe, flout, jeer, scoff, gleek|, taunt, sneer, quip, fling, wipe, slap in the face.
V. hold in disrespect &c. (despise) 930; misprize, disregard, slight, trifle with, set at naught, pass by, push aside, overlook, turn one's back hope &c. 858. upon, laugh in one's sleeve; be disrespectful &c. adj., be discourteous &c. 895; treat with disrespect &c.n.; set down, put down, browbeat.
dishonor, desecrate; insult, affront, outrage.
speak slightingly of; disparage &c. (dispraise) 932; vilipend[obs3], vilify, call names; throw dirt, fling dirt; drag through the mud, point at, indulge in personalities; make mouths, make faces; bite the thumb; take by the beard; pluck by the beard; toss in a blanket, tar and feather.
have in derision; hold in derision; deride, scoff, barrack, sneer, laugh at, snigger, ridicule, gibe, mock, jeer, hiss, hoot, taunt, twit, niggle[obs3], gleek|!, gird, flout, fleer[obs3]; roast, turn into ridicule; burlesque &c. 856; laugh to scorn &c. (contempt) 930; smoke; fool; make game of, make a fool of, make an April fool of[obs3]; play a practical joke; lead one a dance, run the rig upon, have a fling at, scout; mob.
Adj. disrespectful; aweless, irreverent; disparaging &c. 934; insulting &c.v.; supercilious, contemptuous, patronizing &c. (scornful) 930; rude, derisive, sarcastic; scurrile, scurrilous; contumelious.
unrespected[obs3], unworshiped[obs3], unenvied[obs3], unsaluted"
By the way, I do not believe my statement is racist as I am calling him a nigger as that is characteristic of the speech he uses. I know it is not racist. I do not have to defend my statement. If it was racist, then I would simply remove it, but it stands. YOU are an idiot and a moron who goes bananas over a word.
What do you mean by a "group of people?" If you are referring to intolerably rude persons, then yes I am calling him a nigger because he does belong to that group of people.
Or do you mean a racial group of people by any chance? That is not what I was referring to. The older dictionaries (and I have in mind the original Webster's Dictionary by Noah Webster) do NOT define niggard as a black person as you were possibly thinking. Webster defined it as I said. Newer dictionaries which include the nuance of Africans under the term are racist as it is racist to define black persons as niggers or niggards because they are no such thing. So if you define African people in any way with this word, then you are the one that is racist.
http://65.66.134.201/cgi-bin/webster/webster.exe?search_for_texts_web1828=niggard
Notice that I did not call you a nigger as I did Issac Hunt. I am however calling you an idiot because (as 6strings can tell you) this entire scenario occurred long before you were ever on the forum when I called another insulting person a nigger (though admittedly less offensive than Issac) and a proverbial hornets nest let loose. 6strings (who remembers the previous controversy when we exchanged threats) has avoided this converstion so far, but you have become caught up in it. Idiot.
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'Niggard' and 'nigger' are not related. 'Niggard' has its roots in the ancient Norse 'nigla'. It means stingy. You were obviously not saying that he was stingy, and attempting to claim so is pathetically disingenuous. 'Nigger' comes from the Latin word 'niger', meaning black. The two words are not related AT ALL. You know this perfectly well and are merely making pathetic excuses.
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'Niggard' and 'nigger' are not related. 'Niggard' has its roots in the ancient Norse 'nigla'. It means stingy. You were obviously not saying that he was stingy, and attempting to claim so is pathetically disingenuous. 'Nigger' comes from the Latin word 'niger', meaning black. The two words are not related AT ALL. You know this perfectly well and are merely making pathetic excuses.
Why don't you take your version of the history of nigger to Africa and spread it around? They will tell you to take and blow it out your snout. As you say, I meant not that he was stingy. When I called Issac Hunt a nigger (as I will gladly repeat barring his comments' deletion if you so desire), I meant that he fits some of the words in the list above gleaned from Roget's Thesaurus signifying that he was rude and disrespectful.
Why do you have a legalistic obsession with semantics? I have told you what I MEANT. And I think your entire racial policy is assinine if it permits other things which are vulgarities. Anyway, this is old and accomplishing nothing except proving your bias. I don't need excuses for anything. You are a nigger as well in the way that you are acting. You are an immoderate ass. Why don't you keep that one up so you can show everybody for your "evidence?" And bye now because I am finished this discussion inasmuch as it has deviated from the topic at hand, loser.
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Yikes. What a tightass.
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This is false. "Niggard" and "nigger" are obviously etymologically related as anyone can tell by glancing at the words.
Niggardly is a word synonymous with stingy and miserly, and a niggard (noun) is a miser. They are both derived from the Old Norse verb nigla, meaning "to fuss about small matters". (The English word "niggle" retains the original Norse meaning.)
The word is not related to the word nigger, though someone unfamiliar with the word "niggardly" might take offense due to the phonetic similarity between the words. (The word "nigger" is from the earlier "neger," which is from French nègre, from Latin niger, meaning black.)
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Albert Einstein was not Jewish,
A Jew who sheds his faith along the way, or who even picks up a different one, is still a Jew.
So youre saying that you dont think the Holocaust happned either?
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I oppose the State of Israel and its existence.
You are not alone in your opposition to the state of Israel and its existence:
www.nkusa.org
www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/nk.html
http://headheeb.blogmosis.com/archives/014939.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta
www.jewsnotzionists.org
www.jewsagainstzionism.com
The list of religious jewish organizaions above is not exhaustive. Also many non-religious secular jews oppose and have opposed the existence of the state of Israel and zionism.
I know. But I oppose the religion of Judaism as well.
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ppl actually died u know?
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ppl actually died u know?
Obviously they did.
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.... I don't need excuses for anything. You are a nigger as well in the way that you are acting. You are an immoderate ass. Why don't you keep that one up so you can show everybody for your "evidence?" And bye now because I am finished this discussion inasmuch as it has deviated from the topic at hand, loser.
Somebody didn't take their medicine today.
dysfunction is correct about the etymology if the words, and you must have a REALLY old Roget, if it includes the big "N".
Current ghetto slang aside, it is a racist comment and it's use just shows you true character. And this from someone calling themselves after a God...despicable.
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I oppose the religion of Judaism as well.
I concur.
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Oh goody, a thread where all the anti-semites can congregate and engage in congratulatory ass patting.
If only there were some way to find them and rid ourselves of them once and for all. Oh wait, there is; IP tracking. On that note: Dio, you were banned for a reason, don't make it worse on yourself with your sock puppet accounts, there is currently a discussion in the mod forums about lifting the ban, and I would hope you have the patience to wait for this to be resolved before you start spouting your oft-insulting views.
I oppose the religion of Judaism as well.
I concur.
Simply singling out a religion and stating that you oppose it without justifying it is merely inflammatory trolling, and I would ask that none of our members engage in it.
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Simply singling out a religion and stating that you oppose it without justifying it is merely inflammatory trolling, and I would ask that none of our members engage in it.
I just felt that it was on topic.
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Simply singling out a religion and stating that you oppose it without justifying it is merely inflammatory trolling, and I would ask that none of our members engage in it.
www.talmudunmasked.com
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www.talmudunmasked.com
http://talmud.faithweb.com/
http://www.sullivan-county.com/z/pr.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
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your sock puppet accounts
I myself had no "sock puppet accounts" as 'Areopagite' is a legitmate account from some time last year after Daniel specifically authorized ten such accounts, but since you mention "sock puppet accounts," I decided to see what I could come up with.
http://www.talmudunmasked.com
http://talmud.faithweb.com/
http://www.sullivan-county.com/z/pr.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Cyprus/8815/
Thanks for posting links by jews who admit that they believe in the Talmud in spite of its racism. The contents of the Talmud are a blatant testimony to racist hatred and authorized violence (and other vices) in themselves reguardless of pathetic excuses to the contrary. There sure are a lot of Jews who have different views of the Jewish religion:
www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/
congratulatory ass patting
Whatever you say, gorgeous.
Aside from queer, how do you define yourself - agnostic or atheist?
Interesting how people with anti-Christian views like 6strings tend to jump to the defence of Judaism. I do not recall reading of Voltaire having any rows with the jews either.
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Oh goody, a thread where all the anti-semites can congregate
Ask not whether I am antisemitic. Ask only whether I am right.
- John 'Birdman' Bryant
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Ask not whether I am antisemitic. Ask only whether I am right.
- John 'Birdman' Bryant
qft
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I'm more or less a Zionist.
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I'm more or less a Zionist.
Goyim?
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I'm more or less a Zionist.
Goyim?
Why do they let racistfucks like yourself on this site?
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I'm more or less a Zionist.
Goyim?
Why do they let racistfucks like yourself on this site?
What the hell? I'm not a racist. And I was asking if you were a Jewish or non-Jewish Zionist, you commie fuck.
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People who deny the holocaust must almost certainly be racists. I find it impossible to believe anybody could not think the holocaust happened when there is such an enormous wealth of evidence and not be racist. Clearly people must believe something negative about Jews if they deny the holocaust. Either that Jews are given too much sympathy or that they control the world. I think both of those views are false and clearly racist (since you're judging people based on their race). I can't believe anybody could objectively look at the evidence for the holocaust and deny it.
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People who deny the holocaust must almost certainly be racists. I find it impossible to believe anybody could not think the holocaust happened when there is such an enormous wealth of evidence and not be racist. Clearly people must believe something negative about Jews if they deny the holocaust.
Or believe something positive about Nazis, which is not necessarily racist. You can be a National Socialist without being a racist. I can't be arsed explaining it, this is merely something I've come across from my time on nationalist and National Socialist message boards.
Either that Jews are given too much sympathy or that they control the world. I think both of those views are false and clearly racist (since you're judging people based on their race). I can't believe anybody could objectively look at the evidence for the holocaust and deny it.
No one really believes that 'Jews control the world', that's stupid. I believe the Holohoax Jews are given way too much sympathy. They weren't the only victims.
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As has been said before, you're a racist. Just because you don't think you are, it is clear from that post that you judge people based on their race and you think negative things specifically about people of particular races. In my experience most racists don't know they're racist and they often say things like "I'm not racist but..." - as if saying that you're not racist actually means you're not when you finish that sentence with something that clearly shows that you are racist.
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People who deny the holocaust must almost certainly be racists. I find it impossible to believe anybody could not think the holocaust happened when there is such an enormous wealth of evidence and not be racist.
Obviously, beast has not investigated both sides of that issue very well. The editor of 'Skeptical Enquirer' believes in the holocaust, but significantly, he is knowlegeable of both sides and states his views without all the emotional rhetoric usually involved in discussions of this issue.
No one really believes that 'Jews control the world'
I do not concur.
- Dionysios
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Did you forget who you were today Dio?
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- Dionysios
Did you forget who you were today Dio?
http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsLife.asp?FSID=102843
www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeII/CelestialHierarchy.html
http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsIcon.asp?IP=october%2F1003ADionysiosarepegite%2Ejpg&FSM=10&FSD=3&SN=DIONYSIUS&LN=Hieromartyr+Dionysius+the+Areopagite+the+Bishop+of+Athens
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The holocaust is very possible. Stalin killed far more, and I rarely see any contention of those numbers.
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Did you forget who you were today Dio?
http://ocafs.oca.org/FeastSaintsLife.asp?FSID=102843
www.esoteric.msu.edu/VolumeII/CelestialHierarchy.html
http://ocafs....
And?
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And his other account was probably banned.
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People who deny the holocaust must almost certainly be racists. I find it impossible to believe anybody could not think the holocaust happened when there is such an enormous wealth of evidence and not be racist. Clearly people must believe something negative about Jews if they deny the holocaust.
Or believe something positive about Nazis, which is not necessarily racist.
There is NOTHING positive about the Nazis. They were horrible people who treated people who were different than them, disabled people, homosexuals, gypsies, blacks and, of course, Jews, with the upmost disdain and hatred.
You can be a National Socialist without being a racist. I can't be arsed explaining it, this is merely something I've come across from my time on nationalist and National Socialist message boards.
Are you trying to say that one can be a patriot and not be racist?
Either that Jews are given too much sympathy or that they control the world. I think both of those views are false and clearly racist (since you're judging people based on their race). I can't believe anybody could objectively look at the evidence for the holocaust and deny it.
QFT
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As has been said before, you're a racist. Just because you don't think you are, it is clear from that post that you judge people based on their race and you think negative things specifically about people of particular races. In my experience most racists don't know they're racist and they often say things like "I'm not racist but..." - as if saying that you're not racist actually means you're not when you finish that sentence with something that clearly shows that you are racist.
I have Jewish, Gypsy, Negroid and other non-European friends. And I treat them no different from my European friends.
Also, I have mentioned that my girlfriend is not European.
My friends know of my beliefs and they don't think I'm a racist.
There is NOTHING positive about the Nazis. They were horrible people who treated people who were different than them, disabled people, homosexuals, gypsies, blacks and, of course, Jews, with the upmost disdain and hatred.
The Nazi Party did that. Not all Nazis are the same. Not all Nazis 'hate'.
Are you trying to say that one can be a patriot and not be racist?
Yes.
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Are you trying to say that one can be a patriot and not be racist?
Yes.
I have to say I agree.
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My friends know of my beliefs and they don't think I'm a racist.
These friends, they dont wear white, pointed hoods by any chance?
There is NOTHING positive about the Nazis. They were horrible people who treated people who were different than them, disabled people, homosexuals, gypsies, blacks and, of course, Jews, with the upmost disdain and hatred.
The Nazi Party did that. Not all Nazis are the same. Not all Nazis 'hate'.
Are you saying that Nazis are an ethnic minority?
Are you trying to say that one can be a patriot and not be racist?
Yes.
That is one of the only things that you have said that I agree with.
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I have Jewish, Gypsy, Negroid and other non-European friends. And I treat them no different from my European friends.
Also, I have mentioned that my girlfriend is not European.
Dan, did you deliberately ignore this?
I meant that the above mentioned friends know of my beliefs. What have I said that is 'hateful' and 'racist'? I don't get it.
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I was about to point out to Red Skull that Dan the Man was acknowledging a point in which we could agree, but then I noticed that Dan the Man did indeed twist around what you said. Such dishonesty is precisely what prevents rapprochement. I would say beast, for example, is probably wrong in characterizzing you as racist, but at least beast did not deliberatley misquote you like Dan the Man has done. I have noticed that Dan the Man has also characterized Astantia as a Klan member. Maybe he reads too much Morris Dees.
The main point is that it would appear that "holocaust" believers come in varying grades of dignity as well.
Speaking of holocausts, I would say that is exactly what occurred to Serbia during the 1990's courtesy of certain Albanian muslim terrorists who were openly backed by the United States. Many books describe the Albanian atrocities including the manufactured alleged atrocities of Serbs which served as an excuse to bomb Serbia. The account I read is 'Kosovo Dossier' edited by Serge Trfkovic of the Lord Byron Foundation For Balkan Studies.
http://www.sane-boston.org/recentcrisesk.html
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I have Jewish, Gypsy, Negroid and other non-European friends. And I treat them no different from my European friends.
Also, I have mentioned that my girlfriend is not European.
Dan, did you deliberately ignore this?
Well, aside fron the fact that I dont believe you, there wasnt anything more I could say.
I meant that the above mentioned friends know of my beliefs. What have I said that is 'hateful' and 'racist'? I don't get it.
Would you like the list?
1. You have denied the Holocaust without backing up evidence.
2. You have shown yourself to be prejudiced against people of other faiths.
3. And dont forget this little gem:
What the hell? I'm not a racist. And I was asking if you were a Jewish or non-Jewish Zionist, you commie fuck.
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Dan the Man = Morris Dees
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I'm not even going to reply to Dan's post. Thanks for understanding, Areopagite.
And I'm Serbian myself, what a coincidence. Or maybe you knew that and that's why you mentioned the part about Serbia.
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I'm not even going to reply to Dan's post.
I'll do it for you by throwing a little Fred Phelps his way:
How Dan the Man replicates Morris Dees:
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:P0j3lwhZHlAJ:www.godhatesfags.com/writings/20051211_morris-dees-splc.pdf+laird+wilcox,+morris+dees&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
Or maybe you knew that and that's why you mentioned the part about Serbia.
Correct. My interest in Orthodoxy has acquainted me somewhat with the Serbs and other historically Orthodox countries.
By the way Dan, thanks for letting me know about Fred Phelps. Without enemies like you, I'd never have friends.
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Speaking of holocausts, I would say that is exactly what occurred to Serbia during the 1990's courtesy of certain Albanian muslim terrorists who were openly backed by the United States. Many books describe the Albanian atrocities including the manufactured alleged atrocities of Serbs which served as an excuse to bomb Serbia. The account I read is 'Kosovo Dossier' edited by Serge Trfkovic of the Lord Byron Foundation For Balkan Studies.
http://www.sane-boston.org/recentcrisesk.html
Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.
(I'm against Serbs btw, they killed half my family and burried them in massgraves)
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Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.
Do I detect a double standard with respect to the Serbs and the Jews?
I do disagree, but if you are referring to Tito, be assured that I am personally not a fan of his.
From what I find in Serbian history in general, the Serbs are the ones with the guts to take a stand for what is right when everyone else whimps out. They rebelled against the onerous Turkish coloniaists even before the Greeks did. They were colonized in turn by the Austrians. They fought heroically against the Nazis in World War II.
If one can tell a lot about a person by his enemies, then the Serbs are vindicated by virtue of the fact that they fought against the Bulgarians when that country decided to invade Greece.
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(I'm against Serbs btw, they killed half my family and burried them in massgraves)
This part was added after I made the post above, and I would like to say that I do not know the particulars of your family, but you have my condolences.
You don't have to answer this question, but are you by any chance one of the following?
Albanian
Bosnian
Croatian
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I have Jewish, Gypsy, Negroid and other non-European friends. And I treat them no different from my European friends.
Also, I have mentioned that my girlfriend is not European.
Dan, did you deliberately ignore this?
I meant that the above mentioned friends know of my beliefs. What have I said that is 'hateful' and 'racist'? I don't get it.
You've got 'sieg heil' as your sig. if that's not enough, you've also got a twisted Nazi flag as your avatar. Are we actually supposed to believe you have non-white friends, nazifuck?
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Red Skull,
What is your opinion of the Nazi actions against the Serbs in World War II?
And of Tito?
And Mihailovich?
Would you not say that the Serbs historic position as an occupied land with respect to the Turks gives them something in common with other victims of colonialism such as Greece and various countries in Africa and other places?
It seems that Tito realized this and made use of it. In my experience, many Africans these days can see the truth of Orthodoxy more easily than most white men. Now that communism is gone, why don't more Orthodox embrace their brothers who are hungry for knowledge of the truth? I also see the Hellenes in the same position. The Greeks in WWII and before had precisely the same enemies as the north Africans - namely the Turks followed by the Italians and Germans and British and americans.
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Clearly people must believe something negative about Jews if they deny the holocaust.
Often true, but not always. In particular, one insidious exception involves Barry Chamish, the Jewish nationalist who has spoken at conferences of the Institute for Historical Review (IHR) - previously the biggest holocaust revisionst organization in the United States. This was only possible after a west coast CIA agent facilitated the court approved theft of the revisionist organization from its founder. Since this has occurred the organization has become far less energetic and significant than it once was.
As laughably absurd as it may sound to persons unfamiliar with the facts, it would appear that the IHR has been infiltrated by the Anti-Defamation League using the Central Intelligence Agency in spite of the fact that the IHR still functions as a holocaust revisionist organization. A poignant account of controlled opposition movements in the United States:
'Judas Goats' by Michael Collins Piper.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/Agora/agora.cgi?cart_id=%%cart_id%%&keywords=judas%20%20goats
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I'm not even going to reply to Dan's post. Thanks for understanding, Areopagite.
And I'm Serbian myself, what a coincidence. Or maybe you knew that and that's why you mentioned the part about Serbia.
Come on, you nazi piece of shit. I want to hear your reply. Unless of course, you're sticking a gun in your mouth, in which case I applaud your decision. Just leave a towel so people can clean up after your disgusting mess.
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Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.
(I'm against Serbs btw, they killed half my family and burried them in massgraves)
Maybe your family had it coming. Insult my family (the Serbian people), and I'll insult yours.
You've got 'sieg heil' as your sig. if that's not enough, you've also got a twisted Nazi flag as your avatar. Are we actually supposed to believe you have non-white friends, nazifuck?
You may believe whatever you want, untermensch.
Red Skull,
What is your opinion of the Nazi actions against the Serbs in World War II?
And of Tito?
And Mihailovich?
The Nazi actions against the Serbs were as despicable as any other Nazi atrocity.
I have mixed feelings about Tito, my mother likes him, my father doesn't. And this is very interesting in my opinion because my father lived through Tito's Stalinism while my mother experienced his softer rule during the end. He did keep Yugoslavia together. Different cultures and ethnicities living together in peace.
And as for Dragoljub "Draža" Mihailović, if that is the Mihailović you're talking about, then I'm a big fan. :P
Would you not say that the Serbs historic position as an occupied land with respect to the Turks gives them something in common with other victims of colonialism such as Greece and various countries in Africa and other places?
Yes, although I have no knowledge of what happened in Africa. I have never had a real interest for that continent.
It seems that Tito realized this and made use of it. In my experience, many Africans these days can see the truth of Orthodoxy more easily than most white men. Now that communism is gone, why don't more Orthodox embrace their brothers who are hungry for knowledge of the truth? I also see the Hellenes in the same position. The Greeks in WWII and before had precisely the same enemies as the north Africans - namely the Turks followed by the Italians and Germans and British and americans.
I completely agree with you. I have a question for you as well. What is your stance towards Turkey in the EU?
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Sure hope you know the world's history. Cuz the Serbs had it coming, and they had it coming hard.
Do I detect a double standard with respect to the Serbs and the Jews?
I do disagree, but if you are referring to Tito, be assured that I am personally not a fan of his.
From what I find in Serbian history in general, the Serbs are the ones with the guts to take a stand for what is right when everyone else whimps out. They rebelled against the onerous Turkish coloniaists even before the Greeks did. They were colonized in turn by the Austrians. They fought heroically against the Nazis in World War II.
If one can tell a lot about a person by his enemies, then the Serbs are vindicated by virtue of the fact that they fought against the Bulgarians when that country decided to invade Greece.
Wrong, Serbia was never part of the Austrian empire. As of the fighting against the Nazi's, great job indeed, but it was that dude you dislike so much that was the leader of the partizans and kicked nazi ass. In the partizans were Serbs, Slovanians, Croats. Don't get in love with the Serbs now, especially not when you are so much against a holocoust. Nobody on the balkans was ever agaisnt them. Hell, all other people there originate from Serbs, just the religion is diffrent. But after what the fuckers did.... I'm going hunting over the border every day.
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Nobody get me wrong here. Aye?
Fuck your goverment! It's our homes you're crashing in!
And while we're at the subject, imagine this: If I took your wife and kids and put them in a ditch, with bulletfire coming at them,
and strip your females clothes and rape their souls... SHIT the world would go to hell wouldnt it?!? Then it shouldnt happen to us now should it!?
Sounds fermilliar?
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Nobody get me wrong here. Aye?
frak your goverment! It's our homes you're crashing in!
And while we're at the subject, imagine this: If I took your wife and kids and put them in a ditch, with bulletfire coming at them,
and strip your females clothes and rape their souls... SHIT the world would go to hell wouldnt it?!? Then it shouldnt happen to us now should it!?
Sounds fermilliar?
If you are a Croat or a Bosniak then I know where you're coming from. My grandfather was murdered by the Ustaše. They cut off his nose and ears for fun before they killed him. He is counted as a 'Holocaust victim'.
But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:
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Nobody get me wrong here. Aye?
frak your goverment! It's our homes you're crashing in!
And while we're at the subject, imagine this: If I took your wife and kids and put them in a ditch, with bulletfire coming at them,
and strip your females clothes and rape their souls... SHIT the world would go to hell wouldnt it?!? Then it shouldnt happen to us now should it!?
Sounds fermilliar?
If you are a Croat or a Bosniak then I know where you're coming from. My grandfather was murdered by the Ustaše. They cut off his nose and ears for fun before they killed him. He is counted as a 'Holocaust victim'.
But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:
Fuck Ustasa. Lucky for me bosnia didnt excist back then :shock:
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But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:
Because you are racist. :roll:
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But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:
Because you are racist. :roll:
No, it's a Balkan thing. :P
frak Ustasa. Lucky for me bosnia didnt excist back then :shock:
Where are you from?
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But if you're Albanian I have less sympathy for you for some reason. :lol:
Because you are racist. :roll:
No, it's a Balkan thing. :P
frak Ustasa. Lucky for me bosnia didnt excist back then :shock:
Where are you from?
Tito's Yugoslavia :)
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Tito's Yugoslavia :)
Yes but what is your ethnicity? Please don't answer Yugoslav. :P
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No, it's a Balkan thing. :P
Doesn't make it any less racist.
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yes it did happen assholes
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Tito's Yugoslavia :)
Yes but what is your ethnicity? Please don't answer Yugoslav. :P
We're all slavian aren't we? Stop thinking about ethnicities. They're the reason that war started anyway. I'm a Yugoslav.
We have the same ancestors
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Albanian
Bosnian
Croatian
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No, it's a Balkan thing. :P
Doesn't make it any less racist.
You wouldn't know.
Tito's Yugoslavia :)
Yes but what is your ethnicity? Please don't answer Yugoslav. :P
We're all slavian aren't we? Stop thinking about ethnicities. They're the reason that war started anyway. I'm a Yugoslav.
We have the same ancestors
Not necessarily. Sure we're both Slavic linguistically, but Slavic is also a meta-ethnicity. And why is it so bad talking about ethnicity? I'm just curious. It's like when I ask someone online if they're male or female.
Albanian
Bosnian
Croatian
Would that be Bosnian-Serb, Bosnian-Croat or Bosniak?
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You wouldn't know.
Of course I wouldn't. :roll:
Disliking someone because of their ethnicity is racism no matter how much you claim otherwise. Not only do you dislike them because they are Albanian, but you are convinced that in this case it is not racism just because they are Albanian. So in fact, you are so racist that you do not realize that you are a racist.
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You know thats the biggest nonesense there is. Bosnian-serb or Bosnian-croat?? I mean like wtf dude? When you're born and rased in Bosnia you are a friggin Bosnian.
I'm a Bosniak
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You wouldn't know.
Of course I wouldn't. :roll:
Disliking someone because of their ethnicity is racism no matter how much you claim otherwise. Not only do you dislike them because they are Albanian, but you are convinced that in this case it is not racism just because they are Albanian. So in fact, you are so racist that you do not realize that you are a racist.
Masterchief, they can't help it, they're born with it.
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Masterchief, they can't help it, they're born with it.
How can someone be born racist? Its not encoded in your DNA, it is something that is learned.
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Masterchief, they can't help it, they're born with it.
How can someone be born racist? Its not encoded in your DNA, it is something that is learned.
Sure, and that's what they see around them when they're born : racists.
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Sure, and that's what they see around them when they're born : racists.
If they learn it, than they are not born with it.
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Sure, and that's what they see around them when they're born : racists.
If they learn it, than they are not born with it.
Not so sure about Serbs. They had it for generations back.
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Not so sure about Serbs. They had it for generations back.
I suppose you don't think you are a racist either? :roll:
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Not so sure about Serbs. They had it for generations back.
I suppose you don't think you are a racist either? :roll:
Maybe I am. Against Serbs for sure. (You can blame me for that)
Against other people not really.
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You wouldn't know.
Of course I wouldn't. :roll:
Disliking someone because of their ethnicity is racism no matter how much you claim otherwise. Not only do you dislike them because they are Albanian, but you are convinced that in this case it is not racism just because they are Albanian. So in fact, you are so racist that you do not realize that you are a racist.
Oh shut up, I have nothing against Albanians. Making a racist joke doesn't make me a racist.
You know thats the biggest nonesense there is. Bosnian-serb or Bosnian-croat?? I mean like wtf dude? When you're born and rased in Bosnia you are a friggin Bosnian.
I'm a Bosniak
I am born and raised in Sweden. My parents were born and raised in Bosnia. They are Serbs by ethnicity, therefore I am a Serb by ethnicity. Nothing can change that, unless there is some sort of mistake in my family tree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_nations_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina
Bosnia and Herzegovina should be a part of Greater Serbia, as should Republika Srpska Krajina.
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Bosnia and Herzegovina should be a part of Greater Serbia, as should Republika Srpska Krajina.
Look thats where ur wrong. If Bosnia should be part of Yugaslavia, as we knew it. NOT part of ur shitty Serbia. And then its just no friggin reason to fucking attack every other nation on the balkans u fuck
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Bosnia and Herzegovina should be a part of Greater Serbia, as should Republika Srpska Krajina.
Look thats where ur wrong. If Bosnia should be part of Yugaslavia, as we knew it. NOT part of ur shitty Serbia. And then its just no friggin reason to fraking attack every other nation on the balkans u frak
Wait, what did I do now? Serbs are a majority in Bosnia and Herzegovina, that's my reasoning. You're the racist here, calling my fatherland shitty.
Nož, Žica, Srebrenica!
Hey look out behind you, it's Ratko Mladić!
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Yeah i know they're the majority! But wtf?!? Why you call yourself a Serb if you never been to Serbia?!? if you like the shithole so much, why dont you go back then? As far as I know ur just a wannabe Serbian, Bosnian Orthodox. Face it!
Noz, zica, Srebrenica, Vukovar, bice repriza! ( Al u Beogradu )
*GAZIMO SVE CETNIKE! SVE SU TO PICKICE!*
YOU turned on your fellow Yugoslavs! You turned on your neighbours! And you think its somebody else's fault you are considered baby-eaters?! Get a clue you mofo's.
This can only be settled if Serbia admitted what they've done to their neighbours, if they showed the locotion of every massgrave, if you apologize and face the Bosniaks and Croats. THEN THIS WILL END.
You frakkers didnt even know how to use the guns you had, if you did, you prolly wouldnt have the problem of bosniaks and croats hating you.
You thought: Oh those bosnians are very peaceful and they'll probably surrender when we attack them. Well you thought wrong. You got what u deserved. And no matter how many Serbs died, it will never be enough to revenge the deaths of the innocent you slaughtered.
Now go ahead. Denie it. Be an asshole.
The only good Serbs are those who considered themselves as BOSNIANS and defended Bosnia, shed their blood for their countrymen. The rest is just wannabe.
Let the whole world see your shame you fcukers.
Ovaj Srebrenican ce vas jebati.
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Yeah i know they're the majority! But wtf?!? Why you call yourself a Serb if you never been to Serbia?!? if you like the shithole so much, why dont you go back then? As far as I know ur just a wannabe Serbian, Bosnian Orthodox. Face it!
Noz, zica, Srebrenica, Vukovar, bice repriza! ( Al u Beogradu )
*GAZIMO SVE CETNIKE! SVE SU TO PICKICE!*
YOU turned on your fellow Yugoslavs! You turned on your neighbours! And you think its somebody else's fault you are considered baby-eaters?! Get a clue you mofo's.
This can only be settled if Serbia admitted what they've done to their neighbours, if they showed the locotion of every massgrave, if you apologize and face the Bosniaks and Croats. THEN THIS WILL END.
You frakkers didnt even know how to use the guns you had, if you did, you prolly wouldnt have the problem of bosniaks and croats hating you.
You thought: Oh those bosnians are very peaceful and they'll probably surrender when we attack them. Well you thought wrong. You got what u deserved. And no matter how many Serbs died, it will never be enough to revenge the deaths of the innocent you slaughtered.
Now go ahead. Denie it. Be an asshole.
The only good Serbs are those who considered themselves as BOSNIANS and defended Bosnia, shed their blood for their countrymen. The rest is just wannabe.
Let the whole world see your shame you fcukers.
Ovaj Srebrenican ce vas jebati.
blah blah blah
You're taking this way too seriously. This is the Internet, and I'm going to go on with my life as usual. Stop being such a racist. And we're off topic, this thread is about Holocaust revisionism.
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blah blah blah
You're taking this way too seriously. This is the Internet, and I'm going to go on with my life as usual. Stop being such a racist. And we're off topic, this thread is about Holocaust revisionism.
Exactly the response I expected. :roll:
But lets get back to the holocaust
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Exactly, you're missing the point and can't take the truth :roll:
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Exactly, you're missing the point and can't take the truth :roll:
We all have dreams. =)
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Exactly, you're missing the point and can't take the truth :roll:
We all have dreams. =)
Then our dreams are allmost the same.
Change it to "Yugoslavia" and I'm happy
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Exactly, you're missing the point and can't take the truth :roll:
We all have dreams. =)
Then our dreams are allmost the same.
Change it to "Yugoslavia" and I'm happy
Yugoslavia was a South Slavic USA.
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Exactly, you're missing the point and can't take the truth :roll:
We all have dreams. =)
Then our dreams are allmost the same.
Change it to "Yugoslavia" and I'm happy
Yugoslavia was a South Slavic USA.
And Serbia is a shithole you've never seen with your own eyes and only hear wonderful stories about.
Go heil hitler in hell
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Exactly, you're missing the point and can't take the truth :roll:
We all have dreams. =)
Then our dreams are allmost the same.
Change it to "Yugoslavia" and I'm happy
Yugoslavia was a South Slavic USA.
And Serbia is a shithole you've never seen with your own eyes and only hear wonderful stories about.
Go heil hitler in hell
Hehe, not much else can be expected from you. I've been to Serbia, in a region called Herzegovina. And I would never Heil Hitler. Sieg Heil I can do.
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lol lots of little boxes!
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lol indeed
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lol lots of little boxes!
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Hehe, not much else can be expected from you. I've been to Serbia, in a region called Herzegovina. And I would never Heil Hitler. Sieg Heil I can do.
As you said, we can all keep dreaming...
Maybe if you didnt attack us, we might have been your allies. But ok i understand, nobody blames you for that, you're idiots who think theyre all that important.
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hitler is dead ppl no need to hail him.
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I would say that the man with blue eyes on a white horse under whom the Serbs will fair the best does indeed seem to indicate Josip Broz Tito.
The prophecy of Mitar Tarabich is primarily taken up with Serbian history. Only the part at the very end seems to be unfulfilled.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/MitarTarabich.html
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Serbia was never part of the Austrian empire.
Really? The Austrians annexed Bosnia-Herzegovina (which does indeed have a Serbian majority) in 1908 in addition to multiple invasions of Serbia proper during World War One.
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Serbia was never part of the Austrian empire.
Really? The Austrians annexed Bosnia-Herzegovina (which does indeed have a Serbian majority) in 1908 in addition to multiple invasions of Serbia proper during World War One.
A Bosnian-Orthodox majorty. Modern Serbia was never part of austria.
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I would say that the man with blue eyes on a white horse under whom the Serbs will fair the best does indeed seem to indicate Josip Broz Tito.
Josip Broz Tito was a Slovenian. And the Serbs under his command were no nationalists like today's Serbs.
If Tito was still alive he would probably throw a nuke at Serbia.
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in 1908 in addition to multiple invasions of Serbia proper during World War One.
Yeah... those invasions... they have a reason you know...
A Serbian assassin killed the Austrian prince in Sarajevo. When Serbia didn't want to hand over the killer, Austria attacked, and WWI was a fact. There you have it, another war those fuckers are responsible for. It's the only thing they're good for, fucking things up for everybody.
Oh sorry, thats not the only thing they're good for. You can use them as practice targets.
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Yeah i know they're the majority! But wtf?!? Why you call yourself a Serb if you never been to Serbia?!? if you like the shithole so much, why dont you go back then? As far as I know ur just a wannabe Serbian, Bosnian Orthodox. Face it!
Noz, zica, Srebrenica, Vukovar, bice repriza! ( Al u Beogradu )
*GAZIMO SVE CETNIKE! SVE SU TO PICKICE!*
YOU turned on your fellow Yugoslavs! You turned on your neighbours! And you think its somebody else's fault you are considered baby-eaters?! Get a clue you mofo's.
This can only be settled if Serbia admitted what they've done to their neighbours, if they showed the locotion of every massgrave, if you apologize and face the Bosniaks and Croats. THEN THIS WILL END.
You frakkers didnt even know how to use the guns you had, if you did, you prolly wouldnt have the problem of bosniaks and croats hating you.
You thought: Oh those bosnians are very peaceful and they'll probably surrender when we attack them. Well you thought wrong. You got what u deserved. And no matter how many Serbs died, it will never be enough to revenge the deaths of the innocent you slaughtered.
Now go ahead. Denie it. Be an asshole.
The only good Serbs are those who considered themselves as BOSNIANS and defended Bosnia, shed their blood for their countrymen. The rest is just wannabe.
Let the whole world see your shame you fcukers.
Ovaj Srebrenican ce vas jebati.
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Serbia was never part of the Austrian empire.
Really? The Austrians annexed Bosnia-Herzegovina (which does indeed have a Serbian majority) in 1908 in addition to multiple invasions of Serbia proper during World War One.
A Bosnian-Orthodox majorty. Modern Serbia was never part of austria.
Bosnian is not an ethnicity. And the orthodoxy in Bosnia is called Serbian Orthodoxy.
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I would say that the man with blue eyes on a white horse under whom the Serbs will fair the best does indeed seem to indicate Josip Broz Tito.
Josip Broz Tito was a Slovenian. And the Serbs under his command were no nationalists like today's Serbs.
If Tito was still alive he would probably throw a nuke at Serbia.
Wasn't he part Croat as well? My parents have a picture of him hanging above their bed. My father wants the picture taken down. :P
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Serbia was never part of the Austrian empire.
Really? The Austrians annexed Bosnia-Herzegovina (which does indeed have a Serbian majority) in 1908 in addition to multiple invasions of Serbia proper during World War One.
A Bosnian-Orthodox majorty. Modern Serbia was never part of austria.
Bosnian is not an ethnicity. And the orthodoxy in Bosnia is called Serbian Orthodoxy.
Yeah I know we were nevere an ethnicity, but thats where you allways make the mistake you dipshit. Croats, Muslims, and Albanians on the Balkans all derive from Serbs. They just took another religion. As for the muslims, in WWII we ware called Serbian Muslims or Croatian Muslims.
Reason to turn on your countrymen you pussy?
And orthodox in Bosnia who call themselves Serbian suck ass.
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Yeah I know we were nevere an ethnicity, but thats where you allways make the mistake you dipshit. Croats, Muslims, and Albanians on the Balkans all derive from Serbs.
No some of the Bosniaks have Turkish blood in them. And Croats are Croats, they were never Serbs. Both Croats and Serbs have a common origin though. A Croat would kill you if you told him his ancestors were Serbs. ;P Albanians as Serbs? I have never heard of that.
And orthodox in Bosnia who call themselves Serbian suck ass.
Why? How are they not Serbs? :?
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Yeah I know we were nevere an ethnicity, but thats where you allways make the mistake you dipshit. Croats, Muslims, and Albanians on the Balkans all derive from Serbs.
No some of the Bosniaks have Turkish blood in them. And Croats are Croats, they were never Serbs. Both Croats and Serbs have a common origin though. A Croat would kill you if you told him his ancestors were Serbs. ;P Albanians as Serbs? I have never heard of that.
And orthodox in Bosnia who call themselves Serbian suck ass.
Why? How are they not Serbs? :?
Yes, Serbs were the first tribe to settle there. And Bosniaks are 0% turkish. They're Serbs converted to Islam.
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Yes, Serbs were the first tribe to settle there. And Bosniaks are 0% turkish. They're Serbs converted to Islam.
Show me a source where it says they're 0% Turkish? My parents know a lot of Bosniaks and some of them have obvious Turkish descent.
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Yes, Serbs were the first tribe to settle there. And Bosniaks are 0% turkish. They're Serbs converted to Islam.
Show me a source where it says they're 0% Turkish? My parents know a lot of Bosniaks and some of them have obvious Turkish descent.
Like wtf? That's just folklore, Bosniaks aren't Turkish :x That's some stupid made up shit cuz they converted to Islam cuz of the Turks.
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That's like saying: "Muhammed Ali is an Arabian because he converted to Islam." Like wtf?
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The Turks occupied Bosnia and Serbia for more than 400 years. There must have been some intermixing. You're the world's greatest idiot if you don't realize that.
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The Turks occupied Bosnia and Serbia for more than 400 years. There must have been some intermixing. You're the world's greatest idiot if you don't realize that.
Yes ofcourse there would have been intermixes. So also with Serbs
OH NO! DONT TELL ME YOU ARE PART TURKISH ASWELL?! :shock:
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The Turks occupied Bosnia and Serbia for more than 400 years. There must have been some intermixing. You're the world's greatest idiot if you don't realize that.
Yes ofcourse there would have been intermixes. So also with Serbs
OH NO! DONT TELL ME YOU ARE PART TURKISH ASWELL?! :shock:
Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion. I am a pure blooded Serb, as far as I know. A Bosniak (Muslim Serb) is a traitor, in my opinion. But I will treat him no different than a Serb, for I am not a racist.
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The Turks occupied Bosnia and Serbia for more than 400 years. There must have been some intermixing. You're the world's greatest idiot if you don't realize that.
Yes ofcourse there would have been intermixes. So also with Serbs
OH NO! DONT TELL ME YOU ARE PART TURKISH ASWELL?! :shock:
Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion. I am a pure blooded Serb, as far as I know. A Bosniak (Muslim Serb) is a traitor, in my opinion. But I will treat him no different than a Serb, for I am not a racist.
You just contradicted yourself. You said:
The Turks occupied Bosnia and Serbia for more than 400 years. There must have been some intermixing. You're the world's greatest idiot if you don't realize that.
So there should have been intermixes with your "Pure blooded Serbs" too. Since the Turks werent that bad.
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
So does mine :?
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(Ovaj Srebrenican ce vas jebati)
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
So does mine :?
Okay, good for you. I never said you were Turkish, I said that there is Turkish ethnic influence among the Bosniak population.
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
So does mine :?
Okay, good for you. I never said you were Turkish, I said that there is Turkish ethnic influence among the Bosniak population.
Ok good for you 2, chances are you're part turkish 2.
Duuh there's Turkish influence, they're the ones that converted us to Islam. If the Hindoes came and converted us they would have had an influence.
But in this case its more like [Baklava, cigara i kahva. :)]
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A Bosniak (Muslim Serb) is a traitor, in my opinion.
How have we betrayed any other Balkan people? As far as I know we are the most peaceful and never backstabbed anybody. As a certain people who did... :x
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
So does mine :?
Okay, good for you. I never said you were Turkish, I said that there is Turkish ethnic influence among the Bosniak population.
Ok good for you 2, chances are you're part turkish 2.
Duuh there's Turkish influence, they're the ones that converted us to Islam. If the Hindoes came and converted us they would have had an influence.
But in this case its more like [Baklava, cigara i kahva. :)]
Chances I'm part Turkish are very, very small. As I can view my family tree any time, it wasn't something I randomly said to sound all patriotic.
Look man, I love the South Slavic countries. Our Balkan culture is the most beautiful in the entire world, because it is multicultural. Our foods, musical influences, etc. I don't wish to harm anyone. I just disagree with Islam being predominant, or at least influential, in any European nation. That's all. I apologize for the Нож, Жица, Сребреница crap I wrote above. It was foolish, but you did insult me, so I wanted to insult you back.
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A Bosniak (Muslim Serb) is a traitor, in my opinion.
How have we betrayed any other Balkan people? As far as I know we are the most peaceful and never backstabbed anybody. As a certain people who did... :x
It just falls in accordance with my views of Islam in Europe. Don't take it personally. I blame the Turks, not the converts.
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A Bosniak (Muslim Serb) is a traitor, in my opinion.
How have we betrayed any other Balkan people? As far as I know we are the most peaceful and never backstabbed anybody. As a certain people who did... :x
It just falls in accordance with my views of Islam in Europe. Don't take it personally. I blame the Turks, not the converts.
Whatever man, Islam has never harmed Europe, I bet if the Arabians conquered Europe the dark ages would have been gone a lot earlier.
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I just disagree with Islam being predominant, or at least influential, in any European nation.
Predominant?
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Ok nevermind this discussion. I hope you realize WHY i hate Serbs and their ways.
And I never ment to insult you, because I didnt know you were a Serb when the other guy started about those Albanian terrists
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
Heh, I think all family trees do :lol:
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
Heh, I think all family trees do :lol:
You misunderstand. >_>
It is in writing. <_<
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
Heh, I think all family trees do :lol:
You misunderstand. >_>
It is in writing. <_<
Yeah I figured as much. That pretty crazy. Some crazy old long distant relative did ours a while back, and I had a gander at the last family reunion, the thing was huge - but I'm not sure how far back it went - it may have gone further across (if you get my meaning) than up.
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Our family tree stretches back to before the Ottoman invasion.
Heh, I think all family trees do :lol:
You misunderstand. >_>
It is in writing. <_<
Yeah I figured as much. That pretty crazy. Some crazy old long distant relative did ours a while back, and I had a gander at the last family reunion, the thing was huge - but I'm not sure how far back it went - it may have gone further across (if you get my meaning) than up.
Yeah, it's pretty fascinating. It must be really interesting for Americans, finding out their heritage. =)
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Yeah, it's pretty fascinating. It must be really interesting for Americans, finding out their heritage. =)
Erm... yeah I guess it would be..... I found it interesting as an Australian so I guess they would as well? :shock:
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It doesn't really matter who your ancestors are. I don't know why you guys are making such a big fuss out of it.
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You have said this already, and you have yet to counter the points I brought up.
I know. And I'm not going to.
I like making statements without backing them up with proof. And so does the Flat Earth Society.
The Holocaust was one big Holohoax.
You're retarded. I can't believe this, but some of the FEers are actuall figuring this out. The Holocaust did happen. And there are way too many proofs for it, almost as many as a Round Earth.
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It doesn't really matter who your ancestors are. I don't know why you guys are making such a big fuss out of it.
It wasnt really about the family tree
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That's not what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if your ancestors were Serbs, Turks, Irish, or what ever. We're all still the same species. There's no point in dividing ourselves like that.
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That's not what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter if your ancestors were Serbs, Turks, Irish, or what ever. We're all still the same species. There's no point in dividing ourselves like that.
I know, but thats how Nationalistic Serbs (or just plain Serbs) think. And they killed my family. So i WILL divide myself from them. But just from them. Dont care if your father was a hamster or whatever. :P
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Yes, because every Serb himself personally killed your family.
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Yes, because every Serb himself personally killed your family.
No their goverment did. And I havent met any Serb in my life that didnt act like a dick to Bosniaks
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No their goverment did. And I havent met any Serb in my life that didnt act like a dick to Bosniaks
"They are prejudice against us, so it is all right to be prejudice back!"
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Yes, because every Serb himself personally killed your family.
During the War in Bosnia (1992–1995), hundreds of victims (Serbs as well as Bosniaks) fell in the Srebrenica region, also among the civilian population. The town became a Bosniak enclave surrounded by Serbs. In April 1993, the United Nations declared Srebrenica a UN safe area, guarded by a small unit operating under the mandate of United Nations Protection Force (UNPROFOR). Nevertheless, the town was captured by the Army of Republika Srpska in July 1995. Approximately eight thousand Bosniaks were massacred by Serbian forces in the aftermath.
The Srebrenica massacre is also controversially referred to as the Srebrenica genocide, and it is considered as such by the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.[2] This was followed by an admission to and an apology for the massacre by the Republika Srpska government.[3]
Source: Wikipedia
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All I have to say is hate the government, not the people.
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All I have to say is hate the government, not the people.
You say what you want, but you were never there.
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You say what you want, but you were never there.
You mean when every Serb in the world contributed to your families death? No I wasn't there, because it never happened.
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You say what you want, but you were never there.
You mean when every Serb in the world contributed to your families death? No I wasn't there, because it never happened.
Yes you're right, not every Serb did it. But who do you think started shooting at us first? The Serbian army, or the Serbian civilians? The civilians. The army just joined in later. Bombing us from all directions and we oblivious to what the fuck is going on.
What?! you gonna call me a racist because I would kill a Serb and then spit/dance on his grave?
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You say what you want, but you were never there.
You mean when every Serb in the world contributed to your families death? No I wasn't there, because it never happened.
Yes you're right, not every Serb did it. But who do you think started shooting at us first? The Serbian army, or the Serbian civilians? The civilians. The army just joined in later. Bombing us from all directions and we oblivious to what the frak is going on.
What?! you gonna call me a racist because I would kill a Serb and then spit/dance on his grave?
Yes, I would.
And nomad, I do care about who my ancestors were.
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You say what you want, but you were never there.
You mean when every Serb in the world contributed to your families death? No I wasn't there, because it never happened.
Yes you're right, not every Serb did it. But who do you think started shooting at us first? The Serbian army, or the Serbian civilians? The civilians. The army just joined in later. Bombing us from all directions and we oblivious to what the frak is going on.
What?! you gonna call me a racist because I would kill a Serb and then spit/dance on his grave?
Yes, I would.
And nomad, I do care about who my ancestors were.
Shit... forgot about you.
Oh well...
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And nomad, I do care about who my ancestors were.
The question wasn't "do you?", it was "why do you?".
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And nomad, I do care about who my ancestors were.
The question wasn't "do you?", it was "why do you?".
Monkeys with sticks!
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you gonna call me a racist because I would kill a Serb and then spit/dance on his grave?
Yes! Yes I am, because you're a freaking racist nut job.
Did every single Serbian civilian open fire on you and your family? No. Do you have the right to hate the descendants of even the people who did open fire on them? In my opinion, no, you don't; the sins of the father shouldn't be visited upon the son, espescially if the son is truly sorry for what his father did.
Your hating every Serb based on this is akin to my believing that gypsies have the right to hate every single German. It is, in short, ludicrous.
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you gonna call me a racist because I would kill a Serb and then spit/dance on his grave?
Yes! Yes I am, because you're a freaking racist nut job.
Did every single Serbian civilian open fire on you and your family? No. Do you have the right to hate the descendants of even the people who did open fire on them? In my opinion, no, you don't; the sins of the father shouldn't be visited upon the son, espescially if the son is truly sorry for what his father did.
Your hating every Serb based on this is akin to my believing that gypsies have the right to hate every single German. It is, in short, ludicrous.
6strings.... is the son really sorry in this case....? Is he...? Serbs still dream of "Great-Serbia". Even the sons do. Because thats what the fathers thought them. Tell me 6strings... have you lost 2 grandfathers, an uncle a a few cousins.... all because they were executed in cold blood? You have no right to judge me.
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And nomad, I do care about who my ancestors were.
The question wasn't "do you?", it was "why do you?".
Because I do not like non-Caucasoids as much as I like Caucasoids. I don't hate, dislike or discriminate them. I just favor my people over others. That equals a nationalist, not a racist. Every liberal piece of shit labels nationalists or patriots as racists. God I hate liberalism and socialism.
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6strings.... is the son really sorry in this case....? Is he...? Serbs still dream of "Great-Serbia". Even the sons do. Because thats what the fathers thought them. Tell me 6strings... have you lost 2 grandfathers, an uncle a a few cousins.... all because they were executed in cold blood? You have no right to judge me.
You're still "over-blaming" the Serbs. I lost my grandfather to Croats, yet I love Croatia and the Croatian people. I can even respect the opinions of anti-Semitic National Socialists more than I can respect your senseless hate towards the Serbian people. At least the Nazis have some backup to their anti-Zionist beliefs, which are not really anti-Semitic.
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6strings.... is the son really sorry in this case....? Is he...? Serbs still dream of "Great-Serbia". Even the sons do. Because thats what the fathers thought them. Tell me 6strings... have you lost 2 grandfathers, an uncle a a few cousins.... all because they were executed in cold blood? You have no right to judge me.
You're still "over-blaming" the Serbs. I lost my grandfather to Croats, yet I love Croatia and the Croatian people. I can even respect the opinions of anti-Semitic National Socialists more than I can respect your senseless hate towards the Serbian people. At least the Nazis have some backup to their anti-Zionist beliefs, which are not really anti-Semitic.
Wasnt talking to the guy that wants the Balkans under Serb rule. Was talking to 6strings
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6strings.... is the son really sorry in this case....? Is he...? Serbs still dream of "Great-Serbia". Even the sons do. Because thats what the fathers thought them.
Really? Does every single Serb dream of this? Have you asked them? Is it a prerequisite for being Serbian? If not, I suggest you get off your high horse and start judging people on their actual beliefs, rather than what you assume their beliefs to be based on some racist, and it is indeed racist, view that you have of them.
Tell me 6strings... have you lost 2 grandfathers, an uncle a a few cousins.... all because they were executed in cold blood? You have no right to judge me.
No, I haven't. But you know what? It doesn't matter. At least, not in this particular discussion, I'm sure it matters in a hundred different ways, but it has absolutely no place in this discussion. If I had lost family members in such a manner, and presented the same case I have here, would it be any more valid or sound? No, it wouldn't. Don't pull the "Oh, I lost people, so I can be racist" card, it's very unbecoming.
That said, I have no problem with you hating Red Skull; he's clearly a racist prick, but you should hate him for his abhorrent views, not the fact that he's a Serb.
Because I do not like non-Caucasoids as much as I like Caucasoids. I don't hate, dislike or discriminate them. I just favor my people over others. That equals a nationalist, not a racist. Every liberal piece of shit labels nationalists or patriots as racists. God I hate liberalism and socialism.
Right, I think beast went over this; stating that what you're saying isn't racist does not make it not racist. If you were a nationalist or a patriot, then you would support your country and you countrymen. Note that this has no race prerequisite, so a "non-Caucasoid" could easily be included in this set. Disliking people (or liking them less) based on their race is called racism.
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Wasnt talking to the guy that wants the Balkans under Serb rule. Was talking to 6strings
That doesn't stop me from replying. I reply to whatever and whoever I want.
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Right, I think beast went over this; stating that what you're saying isn't racist does not make it not racist. If you were a nationalist or a patriot, then you would support your country and you countrymen. Note that this has no race prerequisite, so a "non-Caucasoid" could easily be included in this set. Disliking people (or liking them less) based on their race is called racism.
rac·ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
I guess we have different definitions of racism then. In my opinion yours is flawed.
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1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
I just favor my people over others.
*cough*
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1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
I just favor my people over others.
*cough*
I don't think my people is superior to others, at all.
Go to the website in my profile and search for racism. I'm not like that at all.
As I said, I have friends from all races, and I don't judge anyone for their race.
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6strings.... is the son really sorry in this case....? Is he...? Serbs still dream of "Great-Serbia". Even the sons do. Because thats what the fathers thought them.
Really? Does every single Serb dream of this?
I know that every Serb I ever met, still does. And i know Red Skull does.
Tell ya what.. Send you family to Serbia and yell out loud that Serbia sucks.
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6strings.... is the son really sorry in this case....? Is he...? Serbs still dream of "Great-Serbia". Even the sons do. Because thats what the fathers thought them.
Really? Does every single Serb dream of this?
I know that every Serb I ever met, still does. And i know Red Skull does.
Tell ya what.. Send you family to Serbia and yell out loud that Serbia sucks.
Of course you will be beaten to a pulp. That doesn't make the Serbs racist.
It's like going to your home and yelling "Your family sucks!"
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I don't judge anyone for their race.
I do not like non-Caucasoids as much as I like Caucasoids.
I know that every Serb I ever met, still does. And i know Red Skull does.
Tell ya what.. Send you family to Serbia and yell out loud that Serbia sucks.
Fine, all the Serbs you've met are pricks, then. Make better friends.
As for that last part, I'm gonna agree with Red Skull there. Hell, if you come to Canada and shout that Canada sucks, I'll beat the hell out of you; mostly cause you're being an antagonistic prick by going to someone's country and telling shouting that it sucks.
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I don't judge anyone for their race.
I do not like non-Caucasoids as much as I like Caucasoids.
This is because I can much easier identify with Caucasoids. The same way I can easier identify with males and not females. Because I am not female. Because I am not non-Caucasoid. It was a bad analogy, but do you get my point?
I would never have a child with a non-Caucasoid, simply for the sake of preservation and for not wanting to have a mongrel kid either. I want my future child to be 100% Caucasoid because I am myself Caucasoid and wish to preserve my race. But then again, love is stronger than racial boundaries, so I can't say for sure if I'll fall in love with a Negroid in the future. I don't think I can, because I don't find that race pretty attractive (and that comment is in no way racist, if you think it is, then please tell me how).
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6strings.... is the son really sorry in this case....? Is he...? Serbs still dream of "Great-Serbia". Even the sons do. Because thats what the fathers thought them.
Really? Does every single Serb dream of this?
I know that every Serb I ever met, still does. And i know Red Skull does.
Tell ya what.. Send you family to Serbia and yell out loud that Serbia sucks.
Of course you will be beaten to a pulp. That doesn't make the Serbs racist.
It's like going to your home and yelling "Your family sucks!"
Oh no, I'm not going to be beaten to pulp. Rather the other way around.
Put a Bosniak armed with a stick in a room full of Serbs with rifles. Better not enter the room, itll stink of dead Serbs.
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I don't judge anyone for their race.
I do not like non-Caucasoids as much as I like Caucasoids.
I know that every Serb I ever met, still does. And i know Red Skull does.
Tell ya what.. Send you family to Serbia and yell out loud that Serbia sucks.
Fine, all the Serbs you've met are pricks, then. Make better friends.
As for that last part, I'm gonna agree with Red Skull there. Hell, if you come to Canada and shout that Canada sucks, I'll beat the hell out of you; mostly cause you're being an antagonistic prick by going to someone's country and telling shouting that it sucks.
Yeah but thats something else. Cuz i love Canada and dont have anything against any other country or people.
Lets put your ass in a war and see how you like it.
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Oh no, I'm not going to be beaten to pulp. Rather the other way around.
Put a Bosniak armed with a stick in a room full of Serbs with rifles. Better not enter the room, itll stink of dead Serbs.
*cough*Srebrenica*cough*
Yeah but thats something else. Cuz i love Canada and dont have anything against any other country or people.
Lets put your ass in a war and see how you like it.
Do you even know how dumb you are? Glupi Bosanac.
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*cough*Srebrenica*cough*
*cough*Unarmed*cough
*cough*Safe-Zone*cough*
*cough*Eat me*cough*
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Do you even know how dumb you are? Glupi Bosanac.
Yes I do... What you gonna do about it?
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Do you even know how dumb you are? Glupi Bosanac.
Yes I do... What you gonna do about it?
Nothing. I just wanted you to admit it. Thank you. =)
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whatever happened to jon... does he come here anymore?
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Who're you?
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A Bosnian-Orthodox majorty. Modern Serbia was never part of austria.
The $64,000 question:
Are you Christian Orthodox?
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A Bosnian-Orthodox majorty. Modern Serbia was never part of austria.
The $64,000 question:
Are you Christian Orthodox?
He admitted to being a Bosniak (Sunni Muslim Serb with possible Turkish admixture).
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I have mixed feelings about Tito
I have a question for you as well. What is your stance towards Turkey in the EU?
First, the European Union should be dissolved because as an anti-Christian organization which attacks legitmate sovereignty, it is a tool of jewish zionists.
Second, to the extent that Turkish membership would give more power to the Turklish government, then I obviously oppose Turkish membership in the EU. The Turkish government has for a long time been composed of two factors:
1) A Jewish clique known as the Donmeh
2) The Turkish Military
http://www.grecoreport.com/the_young_turks_who_were_they.htm
http://www.dr-jurjevic.org/clanci/turkey_china.htm
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/The%20Real%20Jew%20-%20Turkey.htm
Josip Broz Tito was a jew. He worked for Bela Kun's jewish bolshevik government in Hungary until it was dislodged circa 1920 by Orthodox Romania. When Kun's government fell, most of the jewish Bolshevik refugees from Hungary found refuge in Masonic and jewish lodges in Zagreb, Croatia. Tito was one of these. During the interwar years, these lodges connected him with William Stephenson of the British Secret Service. Yugoslavia was a joint creation of the British Secret Service and the jewish Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith (the ADL which has always been associated with the mafia, in Meyer Lansky's and Tito's era and today in Brezovsky's era - Berezovsky's real name is Boris Abramovich, the richest man in Russia). Yugoslavia was ultimately a Jewish creation. The fact that Tito was a British agent explains his split with Stalin. It also explains why he was unwilling to give help to the communists in the Greek Civil War in their fight against the Nazis as well as the British. Tito did not fight the Nazis initially. He ONLY turned aginst them once it became politically convenient. This is in sharp contrast to Draza Mihailovic who always opposed the Nazis and yet ended his days by being murdered ("executed") by Tito for allegedly (and demonstrably false) pro-Nazi activity.
I endorse the concept of a unified greater SERBIA. The only thing that would entitle a reconsideration is if the papists and mohammedans of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Skopje, and Albania became genuine Orthodox Christians (along with their governments).
Yes, Skopje is the name - not Macedonia. Skopje is historically Slavic and belongs to Serbia. And with the name of its capitol city, Skopje. The name 'Macedonia' was given to Skopje for the first time ever by Tito in 1945.
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Yeah I know we were never an ethnicity,
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Croats, Muslims, and Albanians on the Balkans all derive from Serbs. They just took another religion.
Bingo.
I will say that exactly the same thing applies in other parts of the World. Ethiopia is made up of both Semites (composed of three klans primarily in the north) and Cushites. The Cushites (primarily in the south and the west include several klans such as the Nubas in Sudan and the Oromi (in southern Ethiopia and Kenya) and the Somalis. Somalis are merely a branch of Oromis who converted to islam and mixed to some extent with Arabs.
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I have a question for you as well. What is your stance towards Turkey in the EU?
First, the European Union should be dissolved because as an anti-Christian organization which attacks legitmate sovereignty, it is a tool of jewish zionists.
Second, to the extent that Turkish membership would give more power to the Turklish government, then I obviously oppose Turkish membership in the EU. The Turkish government has for a long time been composed of two factors:
1) A Jewish clique known as the Donmeh
2) The Turkish Military
http://www.grecoreport.com/the_young_turks_who_were_they.htm
http://www.dr-jurjevic.org/clanci/turkey_china.htm
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/The%20Real%20Jew%20-%20Turkey.htm
The Turkish mass murder of Armenians (and Greeks in 1922) known as the Armenian holocaust was real, and the Turkish government both denies it and threatens to punish governments which officially recognize that Armenia was the victim of Turkey's mass murder. I am visiting the Armenian Genocide Museum in Yerevan which has an excellent exhibit WHICH DOES NOT DEMONISE THE TURKISH PEOPLE but merely presents the bald facts.
I believe the killing of Jews as a program of the Nazi government is a myth, but I do believe that peoples of various nationalities including most of the Jewish population were mistreated by them. Contrary to what beast thinks, just because I do not believe that a mass murder of jews occurred during World War II based on convincing evidence to the contrary does not imply that I hate jews or do not believe that many were mistreated by the Nazis. While I do believe based upon the statement of the prophet Habbakuk that the Jews have NOT been the people of God since their deportation into Babylon circa 606 BC, I do not believe that the jews have not been utterly forsaken by God and that He will put into many of their hearts (144,000) to accept Jesus as their Messiah during the Apocalypse. I believe the adoption of certain modern sciences with jewish origins such as psychiatry played a part in injustices being visited upon both jews and other peoples in Nazi Europe. Beast is somewhat over zealously pro-Jewish to the detriment of the truth.
They opened a Jewish Holocaust Museum in Washington. Why not an Armenian Holocaust Museum? Do not say that is covered by the (racist) Jewish Holocaust Museum because that is centered upon jews. I mean a holocaust museum outside of Armenia which focuses primarily on the Turkish genocide of Armenia including its entire history as well as the ongoing Turkish coverup.
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Anyone besides myself old enough to remember 'Midight Express?'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Express_%28film%29
Not exactly a film that excites the Turks.
I was at a bookstore in Constantinople this morning and saw in a guıde to Eastern Turkey that the Turkish military removed over one million Kurdish people from their village houses in southeastern Asıa Minor during the course of 1991, and then demlished the houses with no remunerations for these people. The pretext was that they were otherwise unable to stop PKK infiltration of these villages (if one considres the PKK to be terrorists as opposed to the terrorism in broad daylight of the Turkish military, although I do not come across this reported so much in american media).
I showed this to the young (Turkish) woman who operated the bookstore, and she replied that she believed the Turkish military was right to do that and that those peoples' homelessness was their own fault!
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Think about it, 6 million Jews? That would mean there would be practically no Jews around now. The reason the numbers are so high is because most Jews fled Germany, changing their names and such. Zyklon-B isn't a sufficient chemical to exterminate people on such a mass level.
The reason is the Zionists hyped up the Holocause to fual the war, ending in a new state..Israel!
It all makes sense, doesn't it?
i hope you get shot in the face with a harpoon gun
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i hope you get shot in the face with a harpoon gun
Oh, a Jew. Hello there.
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i hope you get shot in the face with a harpoon gun
Oh, a Jew. Hello there.
Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
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i hope you get shot in the face with a harpoon gun
Oh, a Jew. Hello there.
lol the funny thing is, everyone tlels me i look like a jew, even though my family is catholic lol
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Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
I've seen it. The Running of the Jew?
lol the funny thing is, everyone tlels me i look like a jew, even though my family is catholic lol
You don't have to be religious to be Jewish, moron. I only assumed you were a Jew because you were so offended. You can be a Catholic and a Jew at the same time.
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Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
I've seen it. The Running of the Jew?
Yes. =)
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That was about the only really funny part of the movie. :P
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Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
I've seen it. The Running of the Jew?
lol the funny thing is, everyone tlels me i look like a jew, even though my family is catholic lol
You don't have to be religious to be Jewish, moron. I only assumed you were a Jew because you were so offended. You can be a Catholic and a Jew at the same time.
yes but most ppl whose ancestors are jewish still practice jewish traditions, and therefore practice judaism. lol hold on, ill post a pic of myself in a few mins maybe
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That was about the only really funny part of the movie. :P
The other was the scene with the gang in atlanta, and he walked into that hotel lobby looking for a room afterwards.
"Vanilla Face"...
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That was about the only really funny part of the movie. :P
The other was the scene with the gang in atlanta, and he walked into that hotel lobby looking for a room afterwards.
"Vanilla Face"...
Haha, I thought the entire movie was hilarious. There was hardly any time to breathe.
yes but most ppl whose ancestors are jewish still practice jewish traditions, and therefore practice judaism. lol hold on, ill post a pic of myself in a few mins maybe
Yes but are you an ethnic Jew?
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Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
I've seen it. The Running of the Jew?
Yes. =)
SHE'S LAYING A JEW EGG!!! QUICK SMASH THE JEW EGG BEFORE IT HATCHES!!!
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Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
I've seen it. The Running of the Jew?
Yes. =)
SHE'S LAYING A JEW EGG!!! QUICK SMASH THE JEW EGG BEFORE IT HATCHES!!!
YES! I love how they play that stupid joke throughout the whole movie.
1) Jew Egg
2) They made the costumes so fucking ugly.
3) At the place they stayed, the home owners were jewish and they were all paranoid. They thought they transformed into some little creatures to eat them, and so they threw money at the animales and ran.
It was hilarious. I loved the whole movie, because I can laugh at racism. I think that anyone who can't laugh at race or their own is just too stuck up.
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Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
I've seen it. The Running of the Jew?
Yes. =)
SHE'S LAYING A JEW EGG!!! QUICK SMASH THE JEW EGG BEFORE IT HATCHES!!!
YES! I love how they play that stupid joke throughout the whole movie.
1) Jew Egg
2) They made the costumes so fucking ugly.
3) At the place they stayed, the home owners were jewish and they were all paranoid. They thought they transformed into some little creatures to eat them, and so they threw money at the animales and ran.
It was hilarious. I loved the whole movie, because I can laugh at racism. I think that anyone who can't laugh at race or their own is just too stuck up.
Racism that is meant to be funny, is funny. Racism that is serious, is fucked.
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That's pretty much the same thing that I said with different words.
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Have you seen "Borat" yet?
If so, I hope you know what I am thinking.
I've seen it. The Running of the Jew?
Yes. =)
SHE'S LAYING A JEW EGG!!! QUICK SMASH THE JEW EGG BEFORE IT HATCHES!!!
YES! I love how they play that stupid joke throughout the whole movie.
1) Jew Egg
2) They made the costumes so fucking ugly.
3) At the place they stayed, the home owners were jewish and they were all paranoid. They thought they transformed into some little creatures to eat them, and so they threw money at the animales and ran.
It was hilarious. I loved the whole movie, because I can laugh at racism. I think that anyone who can't laugh at race or their own is just too stuck up.
Racism that is meant to be funny, is funny. Racism that is serious, is fucked.
Actually, Racism is ignorance, plain and simple... painted in the right light, that ignorance can be halarious
I gotta say, my favorite part of Borat would have to be in the town, talking about the town rapist, and his sister being #3 prostitute
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Actually, the funniest part of the movie is that he got sued by all the people in that village for showing them in such a poor light, and lying that he was doing a documentary.
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The naked fight scene was by far the funniest scene.
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Actually, the funniest part of the movie is that he got sued by all the people in that village for showing them in such a poor light, and lying that he was doing a documentary.
The funniest part of that is that they all signed releases, and they behaved as if just because he was a documentary maker from overseas, they needn't worry about looking stupid.
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The naked fight scene was by far the funniest scene.
QFT.
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That was about the only really funny part of the movie. :P
The other was the scene with the gang in atlanta, and he walked into that hotel lobby looking for a room afterwards.
"Vanilla Face"...
Haha, I thought the entire movie was hilarious. There was hardly any time to breathe.
yes but most ppl whose ancestors are jewish still practice jewish traditions, and therefore practice judaism. lol hold on, ill post a pic of myself in a few mins maybe
Yes but are you an ethnic Jew?
no
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I have mixed feelings about Tito
I have a question for you as well. What is your stance towards Turkey in the EU?
First, the European Union should be dissolved because as an anti-Christian organization which attacks legitmate sovereignty, it is a tool of jewish zionists.
Second, to the extent that Turkish membership would give more power to the Turklish government, then I obviously oppose Turkish membership in the EU. The Turkish government has for a long time been composed of two factors:
1) A Jewish clique known as the Donmeh
2) The Turkish Military
http://www.grecoreport.com/the_young_turks_who_were_they.htm
http://www.dr-jurjevic.org/clanci/turkey_china.htm
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/The%20Real%20Jew%20-%20Turkey.htm
As with the USSR, in spite of controlled information the truth about history has begun to slip through the cracks into Turkey. An excellent example of this is the magisterial expose of the Armenian genocide by Tanner Akcam, a Turkish historian (!) who had been sentenced to a ten year jail term for expressing views which dissent with the Turkish government's falsified view of history.
http://www.stvartanbookstore.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=5283&HS=1
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Well, if the earth is flat....
Sure! in the magical Flat Earth there never was a holocaust!
And it rains Pie!
And every frazurday the sky turns purple!
These people need to accept the facts.
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Red Skull, have you fully read this article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial
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Unfortunately, it appears that Red Skull has not posted since February.
Unfortunately, it appears that this topic was over since February.
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Well it wasn't as interesting as the vietnam war or anything. I mean, we invade a country and lose to a force of like 10 tanks an a plance? How'd that happen?
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Same reason the American revolutionaries won over the British in the American Revolutionary War despite being outnumbered and outgunned. Better knowledge of the landscape, and guerrilla tactics.
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Which is why we can win Iraq, but we need more tanks.
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Feel free to learn how to multi quote.
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I believe the Holocaust is greatly exaggerated and that there was no plan to exterminate European Jewry.
Is Jewry even a word?
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I believe the Holocaust is greatly exaggerated and that there was no plan to exterminate European Jewry.
Is Jewry even a word?
Yes.
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My girl requires new jewry all the time. But, I'm not made of money, you know.
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Those Asian mail-order brides can be demanding, can't they?
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Those Asian mail-order brides can be demanding, can't they?
... Russian, you mail-order noob. And yes.
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I have a quote from from Joseph Mengels auf Deutsch du Affe. " Sie kommen hier als Juden, und als Rauch gegangen. "Are you satisfied?
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Yo walking misscarriage, perhaps this Waffen SS recruiting poster in The Netherlands during WWII will remind you of something: " Volken van geliken bloede! Strijden geemenschappelilijk Tegen venzelfden vijand. Bezoeken vrijwilligers uit Nederland, Vlaanderen, Denemarken en Norrwegen. " Sad that this might spawn ersatz claver bantor.
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"If it's not worth translating to english, it's not a worthy endeavor."
-His Holiness Narcberry, 2007
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methinks that just the fact that this thread exists proves that there anti-semetecism, racism and other forms of
discrimination that cause death and hurt is still rampant in this world, unfortunately
for all of those who have been and always will be affected.
Two relatives of mine were killed as a result of the holocaust.
It was a tragic, terrible thing that happened and as long as people remember it
and know about the pain it caused many millions of people and families,
not just the Jewish population, but the Gypsies, Homosexuals, Catholics and communists,
it will hopefully not happen again
But, it most likely will
proven by the views held by some in this thread, (In my opinion, don't attack my views)
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Pure idiocy.