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Title: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: Spades2794 on September 15, 2016, 12:19:51 PM: On a clear day it would look like this
http://imgur.com/A2A47AA
On a unclear day it would look like this but if we look at the sails in these two pictures the second one is actually higher up then the first one because the water is flat!
http://imgur.com/a/vK7Me
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: Definitely Not Swedish on September 15, 2016, 12:45:08 PM: Temperature in my room currently is higher than your IQ.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: dutchy on September 15, 2016, 01:03:30 PM: As long as globers can play the magic ''superiour mirage'' card they will never accept the errors in the current model.

How freaking far away do you have to go to take a picture that defies the current curvature model ?
Chicago skyline and the whole city without dissapearing parts from 50 miles away ?

Nope....superiour mirage..

Lighthouses seen from 80 miles ?

Nope....uh earth's gravitational pull is bending the light towards the observer as we ALL know for a fact.

You see ? They have to many mystery cards full of pseudo science that can reason away everything in favour of the globe.
But they cannot reason away the ultimate physical curvature test i'm working on.....long live the robes with over 2500 Tonne breaking strenght !
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: Definitely Not Swedish on September 15, 2016, 01:07:22 PM: Quote from: dutchy on September 15, 2016, 01:03:30 PM
Lighthouses seen from 80 miles ?

Picture or didn't happen.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 01:08:16 PM: Go to 80,000km with an unzoomed camera and a put the earth's horizon right at the center of the lens.

Also, you claim mirages are pseudoscience when you can't even explain how to sun sets on a flat earth and stays the same size while it does so.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: Globetrotter on September 15, 2016, 01:08:50 PM: Quote from: dutchy on September 15, 2016, 01:03:30 PM
As long as globers can play the magic ''superiour mirage'' card they will never accept the errors in the current model.

How freaking far away do you have to go to take a picture that defies the current curvature model ?
Chicago skyline and the whole city without dissapearing parts from 50 miles away ?

Nope....superiour mirage..

Lighthouses seen from 80 miles ?

Nope....uh earth's gravitational pull is bending the light towards the observer as we ALL know for a fact.

You see ? They have to many mystery cards full of pseudo science that can reason away everything in favour of the globe.
But they cannot reason away the ultimate physical curvature test i'm working on.....long live the robes with over 2500 Tonne breaking strenght !

The sun does not diminishes in perspective? Flats suggest a mirage.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: Spades2794 on September 15, 2016, 01:17:03 PM: Quote from: User324 on September 15, 2016, 12:45:08 PM
Temperature in my room currently is higher than your IQ.

Some day you'll realize the earth is flat you not smart person!
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 01:21:47 PM: But the earth is actually a globe, so isn't see how that will ever happen.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: JimmyTheCrab on September 15, 2016, 01:23:08 PM: Quote from: dutchy on September 15, 2016, 01:03:30 PM

Chicago skyline and the whole city without dissapearing parts from 50 miles away ?
Photo? Oh, here's one:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mWmRGanD26Y/USk1AMGs6cI/AAAAAAAAQKU/_Hnxy7Ct780/s1600/IMG_5099-001_Snap.jpg)

So, if the earth is flat, where the fuck has Chicago gone?

Quote
Lighthouses seen from 80 miles ?

Nope....uh earth's gravitational pull is bending the light towards the observer as we ALL know for a fact.
Ridiculous straw man.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: zork on September 15, 2016, 01:24:20 PM: Quote from: Spades2794 on September 15, 2016, 12:19:51 PM
On a clear day it would look like this
http://imgur.com/A2A47AA
On a unclear day it would look like this but if we look at the sails in these two pictures the second one is actually higher up then the first one because the water is flat!
http://imgur.com/a/vK7Me
Second one is higher and somehow the water level is exactly the same amount higher. Why don't you fit pictures so that water is at same height in both pictures?
And do you know what two parallel lines do on flat surface? They converge to the point. But ship wakes don't converge to the point on water. Do you know what two parallel lines do on the ball? They don't converge to the point. So the water is not flat but curved.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: rabinoz on September 15, 2016, 01:52:39 PM: Quote from: Spades2794 on September 15, 2016, 12:19:51 PM
On a clear day it would look like this
http://imgur.com/A2A47AA
On a unclear day it would look like this but if we look at the sails in these two pictures the second one is actually higher up then the first one because the water is flat!
http://imgur.com/a/vK7Me
The earth is flat, therefore water is flat.
And the proves that the earth is flat!
Try again!
Yes, like so many flat earth arguments, circular reasoning.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: SpJunk on September 15, 2016, 08:41:53 PM: Quote from: dutchy on September 15, 2016, 01:03:30 PM
As long as globers can play the magic ''superiour mirage'' card they will never accept the errors in the current model.

How freaking far away do you have to go to take a picture that defies the current curvature model ?
Chicago skyline and the whole city without dissapearing parts from 50 miles away ?

Nope....superiour mirage..

Lighthouses seen from 80 miles ?

Nope....uh earth's gravitational pull is bending the light towards the observer as we ALL know for a fact.

You see ? They have to many mystery cards full of pseudo science that can reason away everything in favour of the globe.
But they cannot reason away the ultimate physical curvature test i'm working on.....long live the robes with over 2500 Tonne breaking strenght !

First thing that you skipped is: they saw Chicago in mid April 2015 upside down.

Why you have to wait convenient temperatures to see it? (Upside down, or not.)

Then:
on Flat Earth model Sun height above ground is impossible to measure. Curved light?
on Flat Earth model every azimuth of sunrise and sunset is wrong. Curved light?
on Flat Earth model they claim Sun doesn't set or rise, it is "perspective".
("perspective" that requires sun rays to bend upwards. Curved light?)
("perspective" that works only vertically, slowly from bottom, and horizontally doesn't work at all.)
on Flat Earht model you can not explain shadows of horizon on mountain sides and tall buildings during sunrise and sunset.

At least not without curved light.

And for all cases above, and many more, you need light to be much more curved than for mirages.

Much more curved.
Title: Re: Red's Rhetoric ship over horizon debunked
Post by: Brouwer on September 15, 2016, 08:53:34 PM: Quote from: Spades2794 on September 15, 2016, 12:19:51 PM
On a clear day it would look like this
http://imgur.com/A2A47AA
On a unclear day it would look like this but if we look at the sails in these two pictures the second one is actually higher up then the first one because the water is flat!
http://imgur.com/a/vK7Me
How do these debunk anything again?

Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on September 15, 2016, 01:23:08 PM
So, if the earth is flat, where the fuck has Chicago gone?
Mirage or non-existing properties of the perspective ::)