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Title: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 14, 2016, 02:45:53 PM
Do you think fluoride on water supplies, pesticides on food and chemitrails prevent us from seeing the big picture, that Earth is flat?
Ive been wondering that lies are not enough to fool our minds.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 14, 2016, 02:48:27 PM
Why do you think fluoride is a problem? There is so little. You would have to drink over 4000 gallons to get the same amount of fluoride as a small toothpaste bottle.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 14, 2016, 02:52:39 PM
Why do you think fluoride is a problem? There is so little. You would have to drink over 4000 gallons to get the same amount of fluoride as a small toothpaste bottle.

Quantity is relative. Depending on the substance, little can cause damage.
Not sure about these "4000 gallons" data. I think you're wrong.

Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 14, 2016, 02:54:01 PM
There is mercury in tuna. Nobody freaks out about that.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: rabinoz on September 14, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
Do you think fluoride on water supplies, pesticides on food and chemitrails prevent us from seeing the big picture, that Earth is flat?
Ive been wondering that lies are not enough to fool our minds.
That's funny! I think you have it the wrong way round.
Fluoride has only been added to water since the 1960's (I think) and the major growth in the idea of a flat earth has been since the 1960's!

Mind you the Globe has been accepted as the shape of the Earth for over 2 millennia.

Makes you wonder just what damage all these chemicals are doing. Maybe addling people's brains so they accept silly idea that comes along!
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: N30 on September 14, 2016, 06:55:50 PM
Do you think fluoride on water supplies, pesticides on food and chemitrails prevent us from seeing the big picture, that Earth is flat?

Absolutely. Fluoride is used to make a common pesticide called Cryolite as well.
Dating back to 1945 in the USA, fluoridating water has strong hints of originating from Hitler and the Nazis.
Do not be fooled by those who say Earths shape has not been disputed in millennia.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 14, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Fluoride's effects are accumulative.  How many gallons of water do you think one has consumed by the time they become an adult? 
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 14, 2016, 08:26:02 PM
About as much as I've pooped out.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Bullwinkle on September 14, 2016, 08:31:25 PM
There is mercury in tuna. Nobody freaks out about that.

But they freak out about a few dolphin.


OMG, dolphin are dying in the tuna nets!

What about the tons of tuna?

Fuck 'um, they taste good.


 ;D
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: rabinoz on September 14, 2016, 09:06:14 PM
Do not be fooled by those who say Earths shape has not been disputed in millennia.
Yes, I guess every generation has a minority can't see the evidence in front of their eyes.

You know,like the Boko Haram mob in Africa.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 15, 2016, 06:41:57 AM
Do you think fluoride on water supplies, pesticides on food and chemitrails prevent us from seeing the big picture, that Earth is flat?

Absolutely. Fluoride is used to make a common pesticide called Cryolite as well.
Dating back to 1945 in the USA, fluoridating water has strong hints of originating from Hitler and the Nazis.
Do not be fooled by those who say Earths shape has not been disputed in millennia.

I've heard this about the nazis since childhood. And I've come to believe that flouride minimizes our perception somehow. It's said it calcifies our pineal gland, therefore calcifying our brain. This is widely reviewed by those who look into the subject.

The good news is I've been researching about a herb called Ocimum tenuiflorum, which supposedly can clean water from this poison. It's been used on undeveloped countries for that purpose.

 
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 07:20:38 AM
How can fluorine calcify anything? Calcium is an entirely different element.

Flourine helps keep our teeth healthy.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Globetrotter on September 15, 2016, 07:46:39 AM
How can fluorine calcify anything? Calcium is an entirely different element.

Flourine helps keep our teeth healthy.

I didn't believe either. However:
"Petrification takes place through a combination of two similar processes: permineralization and replacement. These processes create replicas of the original specimen that are similar down to the microscopic level, and require a minimum of about 10,000 years to take place."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrifaction
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 07:47:56 AM
But you can't magically turn fluorine into calcium.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Globetrotter on September 15, 2016, 08:05:19 AM
But you can't magically turn fluorine into calcium.

A scientist Gustave LeBon in his book "The Evolution of Matter", dated 1901, insists this is possible in a process similar to nuclear transition.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 08:31:09 AM
Good thing the government doesn't put radioactive fluorine in our water, just regular fluorine.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Globetrotter on September 15, 2016, 09:32:32 AM
Good thing the government doesn't put radioactive fluorine in our water, just regular fluorine.

This publication insists it happens with all matter, and is caused by all radiation, including heat (infrared) and light.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 09:34:26 AM
Well, most published research is wrong, so why would this one be any different.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Globetrotter on September 15, 2016, 09:43:53 AM
Well, most published research is wrong, so why would this one be any different.

This process takes often huge time (often billions of years), depending on subject and conditions. The example of petrification mentioned earlier, suggests it could be true.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 10:26:35 AM
Well, I'm not going to live billions intestate, so why worry about fliurin in your water when you get more fluorine from brushing your teeth.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Globetrotter on September 15, 2016, 10:55:06 AM
Well, I'm not going to live billions intestate, so why worry about fliurin in your water when you get more fluorine from brushing your teeth.

I don't care either. My intention was only to provide an info.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 15, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
Well, I'm not going to live billions intestate, so why worry about fliurin in your water when you get more fluorine from brushing your teeth.

do you brush your teeth with fluoride? I advice you stop or you may become dumbier than you already are  ;D
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 15, 2016, 12:42:54 PM
There s Fluorine in NY toothpaste, so yes. I hope you do to.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: SpJunk on September 16, 2016, 05:22:27 AM
Long time ago there was some diagram showing inner energy ballance in different atoms nuclei.
Iron 56 is at the bottom of the curve, which means, over very long timespan elements lower than iron
will gain protons and neutrons, elements above iron will lose them.
Orbiting electrons will come and go with protons.

Tried to find by Google where I saw it.
Meanwhile, found this:

"In 101500 years, cold fusion occurring via quantum tunnelling should
make the light nuclei in ordinary matter fuse into iron-56 nuclei (see isotopes of iron).
Fission and alpha-particle emission should make heavy nuclei also decay to iron,
leaving stellar-mass objects as cold spheres of iron, called iron stars."

From: Future of an expanding universe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe).
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: rabinoz on September 16, 2016, 05:38:13 AM
Well, I'm not going to live billions intestate, so why worry about fliurin in your water when you get more fluorine from brushing your teeth.

do you brush your teeth with fluoride? I advice you stop or you may become dumbier than you already are  ;D
How come that the earth was known to be a Globe for many centuries before fluoride and pesticides came on the scene,
but after these things come along up springs the ridiculous that the earth could be flat.

;) It really does make me wonder if what you are claimimg about these chemicals might have something in it!  ;)
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 16, 2016, 06:29:54 AM
Well, I'm not going to live billions intestate, so why worry about fliurin in your water when you get more fluorine from brushing your teeth.

do you brush your teeth with fluoride? I advice you stop or you may become dumbier than you already are  ;D
How come that the earth was known to be a Globe for many centuries before fluoride and pesticides came on the scene,
but after these things come along up springs the ridiculous that the earth could be flat.

;) It really does make me wonder if what you are claimimg about these chemicals might have something in it!  ;)

That's what you think, not what reality is. The reality is water fluoridation right now. Can you explain that?
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 16, 2016, 07:34:32 AM
Yes. They put fluorine in our water to protect the people's teeth from cavities. The dosage Indo small that nobody would ever get sick from it.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 16, 2016, 08:47:15 AM
lol, Fluoride can help calcify your teeth, but does not calcify anything else...  Sheeple,
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 16, 2016, 08:49:13 AM
Fluorine kills all the bad bacteria.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Son of Orospu on September 16, 2016, 08:51:52 AM
Fluorine kills all the bad bacteria.

Fluoride kills a lot more than that,
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Definitely Not Swedish on September 16, 2016, 09:31:02 AM
Fluorine kills all the bad bacteria.

Fluoride kills a lot more than that,

Sadly, it doesn't work against trolls so it hasn't killed you yet.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: N30 on September 16, 2016, 11:20:34 AM
Drinking fluoridated water saves you money by not requiring a trip to the dentist!
Also, we'll put it in your toothpaste, for the same reason!
Moreover, all restaurants will be using the same water to cook your meals! Further condensing your money saving!
No thanks necessary! Be sure to visit your dentist regularly for free toothpaste and water!

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5CW7CSJpB3Y/Uik7NJthQDI/AAAAAAAAA0Y/1PulPjXFT-c/s640/YOUR+god....jpg)
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 16, 2016, 12:08:59 PM
If you think it's a big deal, then go drink from a nearby river instead.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: UpstartPixel on September 16, 2016, 12:16:18 PM
Long time ago there was some diagram showing inner energy ballance in different atoms nuclei.
Iron 56 is at the bottom of the curve, which means, over very long timespan elements lower than iron
will gain protons and neutrons, elements above iron will lose them.
Orbiting electrons will come and go with protons.

Tried to find by Google where I saw it.
Meanwhile, found this:

"In 101500 years, cold fusion occurring via quantum tunnelling should
make the light nuclei in ordinary matter fuse into iron-56 nuclei (see isotopes of iron).
Fission and alpha-particle emission should make heavy nuclei also decay to iron,
leaving stellar-mass objects as cold spheres of iron, called iron stars."

From: Future of an expanding universe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe).
The tunneling would happen if matter is in close proximity, which it won't be because of the expansion of the universe. So there  ;D
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: SpJunk on September 16, 2016, 07:15:57 PM
Long time ago there was some diagram showing inner energy ballance in different atoms nuclei.
Iron 56 is at the bottom of the curve, which means, over very long timespan elements lower than iron
will gain protons and neutrons, elements above iron will lose them.
Orbiting electrons will come and go with protons.

Tried to find by Google where I saw it.
Meanwhile, found this:

"In 101500 years, cold fusion occurring via quantum tunnelling should
make the light nuclei in ordinary matter fuse into iron-56 nuclei (see isotopes of iron).
Fission and alpha-particle emission should make heavy nuclei also decay to iron,
leaving stellar-mass objects as cold spheres of iron, called iron stars."

From: Future of an expanding universe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe).
The tunneling would happen if matter is in close proximity, which it won't be because of the expansion of the universe. So there  ;D
Thanks.
Any local group of galaxies will be inaccessible from other local groups,
but within group itself all galaxies will collide, and groups will condense.
Just like "soon" collision between Milky Way and Andromeda. :)
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 17, 2016, 02:04:51 AM
There is a theory called "the big rip" that says the universe's expansion willncontinie to increase until in the far distant future, the observable universe shrinks until it becomes smaller than planks length. At that point, physics breaks.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 19, 2016, 06:24:18 AM
There is a theory called "the big rip" that says the universe's expansion willncontinie to increase until in the far distant future, the observable universe shrinks until it becomes smaller than planks length. At that point, physics breaks.

That's mathematics (i.e. fiction).
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 07:34:40 AM
I didn't present it as fact.

Also mathematics is fiction now? I guess it has to be, since someone with the knowledge of calculus can derive the formulas that model our understanding of physics.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Brouwer on September 19, 2016, 07:46:26 AM
I didn't present it as fact.

Also mathematics is fiction now? I guess it has to be, since someone with the knowledge of calculus can derive the formulas that model our understanding of physics.
You should see the guy that claims Pythagoras theorem is false because an approximation of "square a circle" problem leads to the "right" triangle for which the formula a^2+b^2=c^2 doesn't hold. So basically, someone drew a triangle that is not right and someone else concluded Pythagoras was wrong. Just one of many examples of how uneducated flat earthers are.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 19, 2016, 07:52:46 AM
I didn't present it as fact.

Also mathematics is fiction now? I guess it has to be, since someone with the knowledge of calculus can derive the formulas that model our understanding of physics.

Reality is not mathematical. Mathematics is representation. And all form of representation is fictitious. Want to dispute that?


Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 08:01:55 AM
Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Globetrotter on September 19, 2016, 10:42:16 AM
Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.

Surprise, surprise! there is such thing: a Flat-Earther's mind. It's modeled by voting and religion.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: Uninvited Guest on September 19, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.

A model can depict reality only by means of its assumptions towards it. That's why they're called "models". A model has to contain guidelines, a system of knowledge to be applied. It's therefore a conception of reality. Every model is just a map, not the way itself.
When you conceive something through a model, as Earth being a circle, you're going to understand the model first in order to make sense of the things you see outside the model.
Once the model has explained the phenomena you see in reality according to its guidelines, you may get dumbier than you were, because now you call your model of reality.

I refuse to model my thinking.

 
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 11:44:08 AM
So you cannot.

Good to know.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: N30 on September 19, 2016, 11:54:05 AM
Name one thing in reality tthat cannot be modeled by mathematics.
The concept of right and wrong.
Title: Re: Flat is not round
Post by: origamiscienceguy on September 19, 2016, 12:07:28 PM
Right=1

Wrong=0