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Title: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 09:10:05 AM
The Penguin Conspiracy

Penguins were engineered during the Cold War. The woefully inconsistent fossil record is a testament to this fact, coupled with the untenable body structure that could not possibly be the result of evolution. Designed as a "walking lunchbox" or "Khod'ba Zakuska", these critters were made to consume high protein fish diets and lumber around allowing for a complete lack of need for supply lines to distant conspiracy outposts like the Russian Base in the Antarctic. As the Antarctic circles the earth, and is wildly inhospitable, a solution to this problem had to be made. No wonder some feel that Penguins are so different from all other fowl that they should not even be classified as birds! Their elbows are completely fused?! Why would they need to evolve to survive if they have no land predators in the Antarctic? Why would they not die out with the Dinofauxs? These questions are never suitably answered.

Not only is their fossil record ridiculous and stitched together with what we've been calling Frankenstein Bones, but their history is equally suspect. Supposedly they were first identified in 1490 by Magellan during the wave of exploration in the early 1500s known as the Age of Discovery. However, Africa had been explored in Antiquity by Pharaoh Necho II in 600BC; no such mention of Penguins is present in the accounts of this provided by Herodotus. Herodotus was skeptical of this tale because he could not understand the flat earth physics that allow the sun in the account to appear to the North. In fact, Penguin does not even refer originally to the bird Penguin, but instead is a synonym for the bird the Great Auk. Nobody agrees where the word hails from...

The birds themselves are far too stupid to survive. Often they will even attempt to mate with seals.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/ioLWWF/imgres.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ioLWWF)
"Honestly I did not expect that follow up sightings of a similar nature to that 2006 one would ever be made again, and certainly not on multiple occasions," Nico de Bruyn, of the Mammal Research Institute at the University of Pretoria

Additionally they often choose to live in areas with climates not suited to their bodies, causing great distress.

Could it be that Penguins were Auk crossed by Seals? I'm not ruling it out at this point.

Their behavior is equally nonsensical, often going against what instinct should tell them to do and being  a myriad of different behaviors - such as living underground, swimming, migrating, child theft, homosexuality and more.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 21, 2016, 10:58:59 AM
Designed as a "walking lunchbox" or "Khod'ba Zakuska", these critters were made to consume high protein fish diets and lumber around allowing for a complete lack of need for supply lines to distant conspiracy outposts like the Russian Base in the Antarctic.


Ice Cattle.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Empirical on June 21, 2016, 12:16:42 PM
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Their behavior is equally nonsensical, often going against what instinct should tell them to do and being  a myriad of different behaviors - such as living underground, swimming, migrating, child theft, homosexuality and more.
Humans also have swimming, migrating, and homosexuality as behaviours, are we generically engineered.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 12:23:12 PM
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Their behavior is equally nonsensical, often going against what instinct should tell them to do and being  a myriad of different behaviors - such as living underground, swimming, migrating, child theft, homosexuality and more.
Humans also have swimming, migrating, and homosexuality as behaviours, are we generically engineered.
We don't swim like penguins do or migrate like they do. The child theft instances are particularly interesting as they seem to go against the grain of instinct and instead look like emotional responses. Likewise with homosexuality.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: GlaringEye on June 21, 2016, 12:36:34 PM
What about reports from before the Cold War? Or did they ask NASA a go with the time machine?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: GlaringEye on June 21, 2016, 01:05:28 PM
What if the whole earth was just fabricated by NASA to put us in and take the flat earth all for themselves?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: GlaringEye on June 21, 2016, 01:18:43 PM
Thank you. I'm gonna stick with my theory. The Earth is flat because NASA made it this way. The real one is in another plane of reality, and we're unable to reach it.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 01:25:36 PM
What about reports from before the Cold War? Or did they ask NASA a go with the time machine?
Zeteticist James McIntyre suggested that these were faked. I hint at this as well since the history behind Penguins certainly doesn't make sense. It took three years for the Phoenicians to travel around Africa and no mention of these birds from them or from any other culture. A time machine would not be necessary, of course. I imagine suppressing and inventing information is trick #1 in their little magic show.

It could be that these birds were originally the Auk, and were only later engineered into the ice cattle you see today. What's certain is nothing adds up with these waddling little buggers. It could also be that references to Penguins are simply talking about Auks in general - this would explain references to penguins earlier than the cold war as they would be simply talking about the Auk which shares its name - Penguin. It would also explain why they aren't noted in the accounts of travels in Africa.

The chinese would have also been privy to knowledge about these birds due to their travels Southward - including what some experts say to South America. As well as Admiral Zheng to Australia.

Looking over texts, there certainly seems to be references from around 1700 onward. This was just after they did their intellectual attack on China to sway them from their true vision of the Flat Earth. This was also around the time many propose that the NWO was first conceived. It seems like they had a lot of kettles on the stove.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
One of the earlier mentions concerning penguins certain seems to support my theories:

"These Penguins are as bigge as a Geese, and flye not, for they haue but a little short wing, and they multiply to infinitly, upon a certain flat Iland, that men driue them from thence upon a boord, into their boates by hundreds at a time ; as if God had made the innocency of so poore a creature to become such an admirable instrument for the sustentation of man."

Perhaps a clue left.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: markjo on June 21, 2016, 01:48:22 PM
The woefully inconsistent fossil record is a testament to this fact...
The fossil record for most species is woefully inconsistent.  What's your point?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: aisantaros on June 21, 2016, 01:49:11 PM
Any point of this ? Beyond experimenting with Poe's law ?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 02:54:10 PM
The woefully inconsistent fossil record is a testament to this fact...
The fossil record for most species is woefully inconsistent.  What's your point?
My point is there is no reliable record that these creatures evolved from anything, except some chicken bones pieced together from multiple places. Without such a record, their origins are in quite a bit of doubt.

Any point of this ?
If they are feeding the conspiracy bases along the rim, understanding the motives and operating mode of the conspiracy is important. They likely did the same elsewhere or will in the future. We should be ready. They will be betrayed by the weakness of needing supply lines like many great militaries of the past. History teaches us that attacking the supply line of an organization will cause devastating effect.

This might be the kind of attack we need to get an edge. At the very least other Zetetics may want to weight in and say "no that's silly" or "yes, thats quite odd, look at this."
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Kami on June 21, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Coming next: The big Penguin-hunt!
Getting my popcorn ready  :)
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on June 21, 2016, 03:18:11 PM
One of the earlier mentions concerning penguins certain seems to support my theories:

"These Penguins are as bigge as a Geese, and flye not, for they haue but a little short wing, and they multiply to infinitly, upon a certain flat Iland, that men driue them from thence upon a boord, into their boates by hundreds at a time ; as if God had made the innocency of so poore a creature to become such an admirable instrument for the sustentation of man."

Perhaps a clue left.

This is awesome!
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Pangea on June 21, 2016, 03:28:14 PM
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0411_060411_penguins_2.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0411_060411_penguins_2.html)

NatGeo disagrees.

They in on it too?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on June 21, 2016, 03:33:01 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if National Geographic was in on it. They have a thing for Nazis.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 03:51:19 PM
Nazi science is not forgotten. Except by those who practice their sciences now a days - ignoring regulations from Nuremberg and performing medical experiments on those not willing, or with their sheep cloning. Yeah, we get it. You think we are sheep. Just wait 'til these sheep wake up. You won't be able to clone enough to stop us from 'eating cake.'

"It turned out to be … a sort of missing-link penguin," Fordyce, the Otago paleontologist, said.

Sort of missing-link penguin. Great. Way to be confident with that one Fordyce.  I knew of this fossil - the one that supposedly stands at a greater height than man - of the time. Do you honestly put this weight into palentology?

When you look into the details, it was comprised of several separate skeletons. Another Frankenstein. Fort did well to warn of us this, and the flat earth.

Fantastic.

We all know you can stitch together fish and chickens all you'd like. Perhaps they even threw an Auk in there. While science pretends to be above dishonesty, the scientist is but a man - and at times the man will ignore his principles and reach towards ill means where they can be done. Shake the spear as you wish, you can't point at but one true complete fossil with it. Much like we haven't been shown a proper image of earth rotating.

I guess Penguin fossils don't sell like Ape and Dinosaur fossils. Of course, they wouldn't. Why advertise they were interesting at all?!

But no - let us not go into the "conspiracy" of man, where he is evil and selfish and suits his own needs, wants, and ambitions at any cost. Let us ignore this completely so our adversaries won't blame us for it and shout "Shill!"

Experts will agree the penguin is a mystery. It evolves far faster than it should, with less records than any other, despite prime conditions for records to be preserved. There are no 'encino man' penguins. There are not one - but millions of missing links. The record is atrocious, and I have no doubt some young minded whippersnappa' will come up with a thesis around it and it will suddenly be purported as the truth - across all media. Because we like to fill in the blanks, even if the explanation isn't worthwhile.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Blue_Moon on June 21, 2016, 03:53:52 PM
You must really hate to be taken seriously, John.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
You must really hate to be taken seriously, John.
They only thing you seem to take seriously is attempting to debunk views that disagree with your own. I think I'll be fine over here on my patch of flat land.

Paleontology is sooooo legitimate. You are so right about that. Other scientists never mention anything about how silly it is. At all. How can I be taken seriously when I'm putting down such an honoured profession that seeks for true knowledge.  ::)

I guess we all like dinosaurs as children. Perhaps that's some common ground for us.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Blue_Moon on June 21, 2016, 04:04:06 PM
You must really hate to be taken seriously, John.
They only thing you seem to take seriously is attempting to debunk views that disagree with your own. I think I'll be fine over here on my patch of flat land.

Paleontology is sooooo legitimate. You are so right about that. Other scientists never mention anything about how silly it is. At all. How can I be taken seriously when I'm putting down such an honoured profession that seeks for true knowledge.  ::)

I guess we all like dinosaurs as children. Perhaps that's some common ground for us.

I never liked dinosaurs as a kid.  It's always been rockets for me (and a breif cowboy phase before that, but that's irrelevant).  However, paleontology is still a cohesive field, even if incomplete. 
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 04:17:34 PM
You must really hate to be taken seriously, John.
They only thing you seem to take seriously is attempting to debunk views that disagree with your own. I think I'll be fine over here on my patch of flat land.

Paleontology is sooooo legitimate. You are so right about that. Other scientists never mention anything about how silly it is. At all. How can I be taken seriously when I'm putting down such an honoured profession that seeks for true knowledge.  ::)

I guess we all like dinosaurs as children. Perhaps that's some common ground for us.

I never liked dinosaurs as a kid.  It's always been rockets for me (and a breif cowboy phase before that, but that's irrelevant).  However, paleontology is still a cohesive field, even if incomplete.
All fields will tend towards cohesion - even alchemy. That is after all their only real goal most of the time. A coherent view.

I have to admit I wasn't crazy about dinosaurs either. For me it was odd things. My first memory was concerning the flow of time, and how eating something poisonous should affect me earlier - then realizing it didn't. From there, I enjoyed building and discovering. Small stuff, microscopes, Lincoln logs. Ninja turtles were cool as well. And flying devices.

The Paleontology of Penguins is not coherent - its too thinly spread to claim such a title. This is why that discovery was so 'notable' as to warrant an article. A bright eyed paleontologist found a thesis.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bom Tishop on June 21, 2016, 04:59:58 PM
Designed as a "walking lunchbox" or "Khod'ba Zakuska", these critters were made to consume high protein fish diets and lumber around allowing for a complete lack of need for supply lines to distant conspiracy outposts like the Russian Base in the Antarctic.


Ice Cattle.

^^HA HA!
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: rabinoz on June 21, 2016, 06:44:16 PM
The Penguin Conspiracy

Penguins were engineered during the Cold War. The woefully inconsistent fossil record is a testament to this fact, coupled with the untenable body structure that could not possibly be the result of evolution. Designed as a "walking lunchbox" or "Khod'ba Zakuska", these critters were made to consume high protein fish diets and lumber around allowing for a complete lack of need for supply lines to distant conspiracy outposts like the Russian Base in the Antarctic. As the Antarctic circles the earth, and is wildly inhospitable, a solution to this problem had to be made. No wonder some feel that Penguins are so different from all other fowl that they should not even be classified as birds! Their elbows are completely fused?! Why would they need to evolve to survive if they have no land predators in the Antarctic? Why would they not die out with the Dinofauxs? These questions are never suitably answered.

<< Read the original post for all the gory details >>

Could it be that Penguins were Auk crossed by Seals? I'm not ruling it out at this point.

Their behavior is equally nonsensical, often going against what instinct should tell them to do and being  a myriad of different behaviors - such as living underground, swimming, migrating, child theft, homosexuality and more.

Of course they have been! Just look at the changes since 1935:
(http://blog.towerbabel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Penguin-logos.jpg)

And who could doubt that ultimate authority on Penguin?

But a touch more seriously. You ask "Why would they need to evolve to survive if they have no land predators in the Antarctic?"

Well, from one who knows little of evolution, geomorphology or pre-historic climate change.
Just as guess, but maybe as Antarctica got colder there was gradually less and less grain, insects and whatever else they used to feed on and their predators ran out of food, so the protopenguins entered the water and found food and escaped the predators.

Finally the predators all died out and the penguins had nothing to eat but products of the sea, but could not breed in the ocean, so developed their current habits.

Some of course ended up on islands and southern countries where they had predators, so burrowed as some protection.

I can fabricate stories too, though not anywhere near to John's standard!
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 06:55:36 PM
Penguin books?!

Antarctica has gotten warmer since then. Rowbotham showed through underwater currents the world is getting warmer by the minute. This is what folks mistakenly call 'climate change' or before they shifted policy 'global warming'. Planar warming though is real and should be recognized.

Perhaps that's why they worry... I'm not convinced.

Are you suggesting that penguins ate grain?! insects? I have never seen this behavior. Their burrowing is not for protection, its because they are ill suited to their migratory habitats. Look at this
(https://thumb.ibb.co/imkyBF/DSCN1063_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/imkyBF)(https://thumb.ibb.co/g6DkrF/PICT0240.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g6DkrF)(https://thumb.ibb.co/fTPEka/DSCN1056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fTPEka)
Anomalies. That's the word for Penguin.
From my studies in the South of America.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: rabinoz on June 21, 2016, 07:48:59 PM
Penguin books?!

Antarctica has gotten warmer since then. Rowbotham showed through underwater currents the world is getting warmer by the minute. This is what folks mistakenly call 'climate change' or before they shifted policy 'global warming'. Planar warming though is real and should be recognized.

Perhaps that's why they worry... I'm not convinced.

Are you suggesting that penguins ate grain?! insects? I have never seen this behavior. Their burrowing is not for protection, its because they are ill suited to their migratory habitats. Look at this
(https://thumb.ibb.co/imkyBF/DSCN1063_1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/imkyBF)(https://thumb.ibb.co/g6DkrF/PICT0240.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g6DkrF)(https://thumb.ibb.co/fTPEka/DSCN1056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fTPEka)
Anomalies. That's the word for Penguin.
From my studies in the South of America.
I was talking about pre-historic  'climate change', not the current "global warming". Presumably Antarctica was not always so cold as I think there is evidence of trees etc there. But as I clearly stated I was fabricating a plausible story, just like Rowbotham tried to do.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Woody on June 21, 2016, 08:38:19 PM
I am really starting to believe John is being serious.

John just some advice if you are being serious, take a step back and break from the whole FE and other conspiracies for a short while.  You are not too far away from starting to post scenes from a movie or TV show as evidence.  Pointing out something like a clock showing a certain time is obvious evidence of what ever you are trying to prove.

If the Earth is really flat and you are working with the conspirators then ignore my advice.  You are doing a wonderful job of discrediting  the whole notion the Earth could be flat.

If you are just trolling then I will also say you are doing a fantastic job.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 08:57:54 PM
I don't think he was - but you make a great point. Look at the Piri Reis map, I remember when I studied that, I found a study that showed it mapped ridiculously close to the antarctic coastline before it was frozen over - using Sonar or some such below ground kinda stuff.

It mapped the antarctic coastline -  we matched this map quite some time ago. Its point was that without the ice - we'd see the Piri Reis. If it was not as cold - why would they travel North to situations that kill quite a few per squadron of penguins. The Vikings had a few surprises in their maps - it was quite the night. It was likely an engineering mistake. Of course the Auk would migrate North.

I look to the theory in hollow earth that all the continents fit together and I agree - but more like you'd imagine it happening through the flat earth map. The earth may be expanding, but its always changing. It slowly melts outwards due to our culmination of heat. No other species has the woes and misfortune of these honest and those whom speak true in creatures - the Penguins. And yet they lead themselves to slaughter. Lunch boxes, frozen for the edge guards. Just add butter and 'erb.

These poor bastards were born to a life of toil and suffering, because of their insidious creation.

We must save them. While killing off the lines of production.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 21, 2016, 09:02:23 PM
Just as guess, but maybe as Antarctica got colder there was gradually less and less grain, insects and whatever else they used to feed on and their predators ran out of food, so the protopenguins entered the water and found food and escaped the predators.

Finally the predators all died out and the penguins had nothing to eat but products of the sea, but could not breed in the ocean, so developed their current habits.


You know there are penguins all the way from the ice wall to the equator?




Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: FalseProphet on June 21, 2016, 09:14:13 PM
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Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 09:17:52 PM
This explains their distribution - only a few lands they supposedly touched. The Chinese and the Aztecs. Can't imagine why they burned their books up. Cause everybody always looks good when they start burning books. People cry about Alexandria - but look at the losses at Tenochtitlan and the Aztec Libraries. We can get the gist of the Roman and Greeks - but that point of view that saw the stars so brightly and predicted as much as Kepler - lost. Lost due to situation triumphing over knowledge. Not a war between religion and reason - against power and reason.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 21, 2016, 09:35:57 PM
This explains their distribution - only a few lands they supposedly touched. The Chinese and the Aztecs. Can't imagine why they burned their books up. Cause everybody always looks good when they start burning books. People cry about Alexandria - but look at the losses at Tenochtitlan and the Aztec Libraries. We can get the gist of the Roman and Greeks - but that point of view that saw the stars so brightly and predicted as much as Kepler - lost. Lost due to situation triumphing over knowledge. Not a war between religion and reason - against power and reason.


Mind control is the worst enemy.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 09:44:57 PM
Mind control can happen as easily as an unfortunate ally, or too much white noise and metal. Mind control is easy. We all need to be worried about that. We can google the easiest answer to any question. And then we know it.

Let that sink it. We know it. How many things do you know because you picked up your phone and asked siri?

How many times are you inundated with messages on facebook about how cool science is? how much its told you about dark matter and how it matters? Told you how to think - so you don't have to. We are all busy...

How many things have you learned for yourself - as baby burning your hand on something hot. looking up and seeing the sky above you. Dancing for the first time - really dancing. I'd put my weight on dancing and the hot than walking by and listening to a grown man named 'Bill Nye' in a bow tie and NDT that doesn't understand what non- anything means.

Don't go flat. Go free, if you come to flat - fuck ya. Either way, we got this. Turn on. Tune in. Drop Down.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bom Tishop on June 21, 2016, 09:45:30 PM
Ice Cattle.
;D

I really think this forum gives humanity a bit too much credit even for the "bad guys".....everything single thing we know is a fabricated lie with a purpose. Now engineered penguins.....so they can save on some food cost.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
Ice Cattle.
;D

I really think this forum gives humanity a bit too much credit even for the "bad guys".....everything single thing we know is a fabricated lie with a purpose. Now engineered penguins.....so they can save on some food cost.
Here's another snippet to push ya over the edge.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/jvV9Jv/Acxvf_s_CIAEWQlb.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jvV9Jv)
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bom Tishop on June 21, 2016, 10:02:33 PM
John.....Do you not see a bit of the issue with the impossibilities here?? Have you not seen what simple things humans try to do and complete screw up?? However, you are suggesting not only the implications of this size of conspiracy...now penguins are engineered ice cattle?

I do give you credit, it seems you are sticking to your guns more, so maybe you did read my response to you in questions for Christians. 
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 21, 2016, 10:05:56 PM
We can google the easiest answer to any question. And then we know it.

Let that sink it. We know it.


Debating with my 27 year old nephew . . .
He clicks on his telephone and hands it to me to read,
as if google is somehow his brain.

He doesn't even bother to read it first.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: disputeone on June 21, 2016, 10:11:53 PM
This thread makes me sad.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 10:34:44 PM
Yeah because they make far more sense over evolutionised creatures. Surely we see they are useless as the cattle.  Cattles haven't been evolved through society - have they? Yes of course they have. They are mindless fish eating machines - but yet they have some of that spark which drives us all...

Perhaps they have more use. Perhaps they rebuilt the cow better...

Save The Fucking Udders.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 10:42:12 PM
John.....Do you not see a bit of the issue with the impossibilities here?? Have you not seen what simple things humans try to do and complete screw up?? However, you are suggesting not only the implications of this size of conspiracy...now penguins are engineered ice cattle?

I do give you credit, it seems you are sticking to your guns more, so maybe you did read my response to you in questions for Christians.
What simple things man has to done? They reach for the stars when they can, even in the face of certain death. They look for equality and truth in all things. The simple things man does - I would hope to do but a few. The adventure - the life. The discovery. Man does do simple things - in this you are most right. But are the simple things done, amounted to a sum of those?

They even try to fly to space, in their rickety rockets bumble about like a bearing marble in a pinball machine. Certain death. They do it. What simple things?

Surely, you jest. The simplest of mans deeds are a testament to us all.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bom Tishop on June 21, 2016, 10:57:03 PM
John.....Do you not see a bit of the issue with the impossibilities here?? Have you not seen what simple things humans try to do and complete screw up?? However, you are suggesting not only the implications of this size of conspiracy...now penguins are engineered ice cattle?

I do give you credit, it seems you are sticking to your guns more, so maybe you did read my response to you in questions for Christians.
What simple things man has to done? They reach for the stars when they can, even in the face of certain death. They look for equality and truth in all things. The simple things man does - I would hope to do but a few. The adventure - the life. The discovery. Man does do simple things - in this you are most right. But are the simple things done, amounted to a sum of those?

They even try to fly to space, in their rickety rockets bumble about like a bearing marble in a pinball machine. Certain death. They do it. What simple things?

Surely, you jest. The simplest of mans deeds are a testament to us all.

Under how many failures??? There would have been a massive failure many moons ago. Too many people, too much of a cover up, there are only so many intelligent people on the planet. That is not even getting into the genetic penguins just for a food source in a top secret place. I would love to shake stuff up with a massive world conspiracy. Realize everything we think we know is wrong....I just don't see it happening as much as I would like to see it so. 
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 21, 2016, 11:08:43 PM
What?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bom Tishop on June 21, 2016, 11:23:29 PM
What?

All the complicated things we do are done through trial and error, with many failures during development and continuing through time after developed. All the theories discussed here are forms of perfection for use. It would be almost a super human feat. Even though I actually wish they were true, I don't see it possible.

I apologize, its been a long day, its freak balls hot in texas with monster humidity...plus a few alcoholic beverages into my relaxing lol. Don't know if you have spent all day in 110 heat index working around hot machinery and welders ect. I try to cool the place in the work area, however ac is a joke and swamp coolers are worthless when the humidity is this high. Kinda makes you a bit dumb at the end of the day, then add a few drops of alcohol.

So my critical thinking and conversation button may be a bit broken lol
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 21, 2016, 11:29:28 PM
What?

All the complicated things we do are done through trial and error, with many failures during development and continuing through time after developed. All the theories discussed here are forms of perfection for use. It would be almost a super human feat. Even though I actually wish they were true, I don't see it possible.

I apologize, its been a long day, its freak balls hot in texas with monster humidity...plus a few alcoholic beverages into my relaxing lol. Don't know if you have spent all day in 110 heat index working around hot machinery and welders ect. I try to cool the place in the work area, however ac is a joke and swamp coolers are worthless when the humidity is this high. Kinda makes you a bit dumb at the end of the day, then add a few drops of alcohol.

So my critical thinking and conversation button may be a bit broken lol


83º and rain in Belize all week.
Orchid weather, I can't wait.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bom Tishop on June 22, 2016, 12:04:02 AM
^^^^ you are an ass...that is all


Though the weather hasn't been bad in California either...besides 80 percent humidity
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 22, 2016, 12:11:11 AM
^^^^ you are an ass...that is all


Though the weather hasn't been bad in California either...besides 80 percent humidity


And we are on fire. It's actually called fire season.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: rabinoz on June 22, 2016, 12:34:47 AM
Just as guess, but maybe as Antarctica got colder there was gradually less and less grain, insects and whatever else they used to feed on and their predators ran out of food, so the protopenguins entered the water and found food and escaped the predators.

Finally the predators all died out and the penguins had nothing to eat but products of the sea, but could not breed in the ocean, so developed their current habits.

You know there are penguins all the way from the ice wall to the equator?
Even north of the equator in the Galapagos.

I did say I was fabricating a story.   The Galápagos might not be cold but they used to lack a lot of the predators that are now decimating the Penguins there.

You seem to keep more than rabbits in that hat.
You know there are penguins all the way from the ice wall to the equator?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: GlaringEye on June 22, 2016, 12:44:25 AM
Let's see. Many species have been domesticated and bred to benefit human comunities. Horses, dogs, sheep, llamas... Many of them, for thousands of years.

Yet leave some of them free, and they survive just fine. Thousands of years of artificial selection haven't erased their abilities in the wilderness.

Now, we have to believe penguins were bio-engineered in mere decades and none of their instincts survive, history got severely edited to include them even if it's not necessary (really, why would you have to fake their origin?) and all that without ADN editing technology.

Also, not happy having engineered an species, they developed seventeen to have them even in places where they can raise the more usual cattle!

Are you really that credulous, John? Did you really just read something on the Internet and give it your stamp of approval? I thought you were smarter than that, but you're so focused looking for proof of your government lying to the whole world that you take as true even the most ridiculous hypothesis. Take a step back and try to clear your mind for a second. Then ask yourself: is what I'm defending 'plausible'?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 22, 2016, 01:04:29 AM
You seem to keep more than rabbits in that hat.

Is that you Rocky?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 22, 2016, 10:55:33 AM
I suggest we start by mapping the Penguins out on the flat earth map. I'll get on it today. Perhaps I can plan a trip to Australia or South America again and we can get the ball rolling.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on June 22, 2016, 10:59:54 AM
I suggest we start by mapping the Penguins out on the flat earth map. I'll get on it today. Perhaps I can plan a trip to Australia or South America again and we can get the ball rolling.

I look forward to your research.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Bullwinkle on June 22, 2016, 11:04:29 AM
Even north of the equator in the Galapagos.


(http://www.worldatlas.com/img/areamap/territory/galap.png)


Fine line, can't argue.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Son of Orospu on June 22, 2016, 11:05:12 AM
I think the koalas as mocking you.  Think about it. 
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 22, 2016, 11:12:23 AM
Check this juicy bit out. The poor bastards don't even know they can't fly sometimes.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/d7hydv/PICT0388.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d7hydv)(https://thumb.ibb.co/i8Ppka/PICT0361.jpg) (https://ibb.co/i8Ppka)
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Blue_Moon on June 22, 2016, 11:29:13 AM
Check this juicy bit out. The poor bastards don't even know they can't fly sometimes.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/d7hydv/PICT0388.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d7hydv)(https://thumb.ibb.co/i8Ppka/PICT0361.jpg) (https://ibb.co/i8Ppka)

So you're saying that any time a bird spreads or flaps its wings, it is with the intent to fly, and not just to stretch or regulate body temperature?  Anything makes sense as long as it supports your idea. 
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 22, 2016, 11:47:14 AM
What?

All the complicated things we do are done through trial and error, with many failures during development and continuing through time after developed. All the theories discussed here are forms of perfection for use. It would be almost a super human feat. Even though I actually wish they were true, I don't see it possible.

I apologize, its been a long day, its freak balls hot in texas with monster humidity...plus a few alcoholic beverages into my relaxing lol. Don't know if you have spent all day in 110 heat index working around hot machinery and welders ect. I try to cool the place in the work area, however ac is a joke and swamp coolers are worthless when the humidity is this high. Kinda makes you a bit dumb at the end of the day, then add a few drops of alcohol.

So my critical thinking and conversation button may be a bit broken lol
No problem I completely understand. I wasn't all there last night as well.

I'm sure they had failures.


@Blue_Moon:

No, it was sometime ago but these pictures are my own. I should have captured it on video, but they certainly appeared to me as if they were trying to fly. The one on the right was doing this attempt as it wobbled away from the water on its long journey towards its pack.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Pangea on June 22, 2016, 07:58:37 PM
One of the earlier mentions concerning penguins certain seems to support my theories:

"These Penguins are as bigge as a Geese, and flye not, for they haue but a little short wing, and they multiply to infinitly, upon a certain flat Iland, that men driue them from thence upon a boord, into their boates by hundreds at a time ; as if God had made the innocency of so poore a creature to become such an admirable instrument for the sustentation of man."

Perhaps a clue left.

Ant-eaters and Rhinos are weird too.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on June 23, 2016, 07:02:47 AM
Split off Off-Topic Posts to S&C
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Cartog on August 20, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
Penguins are a remarkable product of evolution.  All the varieties of penguins have several characteristics in common, including white chests, black backs, very tight feathers, wings shaped liked flippers, webbed feet.   They are able to survive in the icy Antarctic environment - where there is little competition.  They swim with their powerful wings, and predator birds flying above seldom see them because their black backs blend with the dark water, while predatory/prey sealife swimming below seldom see them because their white chests blend with the sunlight from above.  Although they do not fly, they are able to use their feet and wings to launch themselves out of the water onto land or ice by a distance of about eight feet.

As a demonstration that this is a result of evolution, in the Arctic a very similar bird, the Puffin, has many similar characteristics, including the black back and the white chest, and tight feathers (but, unlike the penguin, it can fly).  The two species are not related but similar environmental factors caused them to evolve in similar ways.

Not bio-engineered.  There are photographs of penguins dating back to the beginning of the 20th century and eyewitness accounts and stuffed museum specimens dating back well into the 19th century.  As well as the multitude of variant species, which took many centuries to develop.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Crouton on August 20, 2016, 11:16:15 PM
Ever since I've heard of this site I've wondered if the people running this seriously  believed the earth was flat or if it was some kind of prank. Based on this thread I think I have enough information to draw a conclusion.

Also if you were going to engineer a creature to be a food source you wouldn't make a penguin. It's a carnivore. You'd be better off just eating  the fish.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: fliggs on August 21, 2016, 02:40:49 AM
The truly great thing about this forum is that when you think you have witnessed the most stupid, unbelievably ignorant and insane beliefs possible... there comes yet even stupid, mor ignorant and even more insane beliefs.

Exhibit 1: this thread.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: rabinoz on August 21, 2016, 03:16:50 AM
The truly great thing about this forum is that when you think you have witnessed the most stupid, unbelievably ignorant and insane beliefs possible... there comes yet even stupid, mor ignorant and even more insane beliefs.

Exhibit 1: this thread.
Be warned, not all of John Davis' topics are intended to be taken seriously. But please don't ask me which are which.
I PMed him once wondering how a flat earther could write material that virtually made him seem to be "secretly" supporting the Globe.
No, he wasn't, it was just a tougue-in-cheek humourous thread - and I was the one that didn't see it.  ;D on me!
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: fliggs on August 21, 2016, 03:24:24 AM
The truly great thing about this forum is that when you think you have witnessed the most stupid, unbelievably ignorant and insane beliefs possible... there comes yet even stupid, mor ignorant and even more insane beliefs.

Exhibit 1: this thread.
Be warned, not all of John Davis' topics are intended to be taken seriously. But please don't ask me which are which.
I PMed him once wondering how a flat earther could write material that virtually made him seem to be "secretly" supporting the Globe.
No, he wasn't, it was just a tougue-in-cheek humourous thread - and I was the one that didn't see it.  ;D on me!

I would guess that he does in fact take them very seriously when he writes them during his schizophrenic episodes. Once he gets a bit less fuzzy he sees some of his threads as the garbage they are and tries to back track. It is all a very typical response from un-medicated schizophrenics.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Space Cowgirl on August 21, 2016, 12:17:02 PM
(http://)

He knows.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Physicsteacher on August 22, 2016, 03:07:35 PM
The Penguin Conspiracy

Penguins were engineered during the Cold War. The woefully inconsistent fossil record is a testament to this fact, coupled with the untenable body structure that could not possibly be the result of evolution. Designed as a "walking lunchbox" or "Khod'ba Zakuska", these critters were made to consume high protein fish diets and lumber around allowing for a complete lack of need for supply lines to distant conspiracy outposts like the Russian Base in the Antarctic. As the Antarctic circles the earth, and is wildly inhospitable, a solution to this problem had to be made. No wonder some feel that Penguins are so different from all other fowl that they should not even be classified as birds! Their elbows are completely fused?! Why would they need to evolve to survive if they have no land predators in the Antarctic? Why would they not die out with the Dinofauxs? These questions are never suitably answered.

Not only is their fossil record ridiculous and stitched together with what we've been calling Frankenstein Bones, but their history is equally suspect. Supposedly they were first identified in 1490 by Magellan during the wave of exploration in the early 1500s known as the Age of Discovery. However, Africa had been explored in Antiquity by Pharaoh Necho II in 600BC; no such mention of Penguins is present in the accounts of this provided by Herodotus. Herodotus was skeptical of this tale because he could not understand the flat earth physics that allow the sun in the account to appear to the North. In fact, Penguin does not even refer originally to the bird Penguin, but instead is a synonym for the bird the Great Auk. Nobody agrees where the word hails from...

The birds themselves are far too stupid to survive. Often they will even attempt to mate with seals.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/ioLWWF/imgres.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ioLWWF)
"Honestly I did not expect that follow up sightings of a similar nature to that 2006 one would ever be made again, and certainly not on multiple occasions," Nico de Bruyn, of the Mammal Research Institute at the University of Pretoria

Additionally they often choose to live in areas with climates not suited to their bodies, causing great distress.

Could it be that Penguins were Auk crossed by Seals? I'm not ruling it out at this point.

Their behavior is equally nonsensical, often going against what instinct should tell them to do and being  a myriad of different behaviors - such as living underground, swimming, migrating, child theft, homosexuality and more.

It just has to be said - this is the most retarded thing I have ever seen.

My mind is truely blown, a whole new level of retard has just been achieved!!
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on May 10, 2025, 05:06:38 PM
Have you taken note of every one of these penguin pictures?

Take a moment now and peruse the pictures. Nay, trust me not. Go to google, search penguin, click images. Take them all in.

The word penguin has an interesting etymology. Edward Fenton Supposedly during his voyages came across the curious creatures and dubbed them "pen gwyn". This is all well and good until you realize its translation from the welsh - literally "white head."

Now recall our little trip to the online zoo of penguins and every one of those pictures.

What colour was the penguins head?

That's right, it was black.

Consider this - the latin for plump; the latin for fat? "Pinguis." Another clue - hidden in time in a way. Do they really take us for such fools as they think we wouldn't figure it out?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 11, 2025, 02:24:27 AM
Never mind genetic engineered. We basically only ever see them in enclosures in zoos. How do we know that the land they supposedly exist in exists?

For that matter, how do we know they can survive in such a place? I mean, fur seems like it would work better than feathers for staying warm, and as best as I know, moving a polar bear south would likely kill it. Someone mentioned moving them to the Antarctic as response to the melting ice pictures (which it turns out is a hoax)
https://newslog.cyberjournal.org/global-warming-fraud-iconic-polar-bear-on-melting-ice-cap-a-hoax/
and we got this article:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/articles/questions/would-polar-bears-thrive-antarctica
Quote
Ian - Polar bears would do very well if transplanted into the Antarctic - well at least for a few years. From a food point of view it would be polar bear heaven. In the Arctic the seals and other potential prey species have evolved lifestyles that minimises their risk of being eaten by polar bears but, in contrast, larger Antarctic animals such as seals and penguins have evolved without the risk of being eaten. Because of this the penguins are typically quite bold and inquisitive and will often approach you to have a look, and seals in the Antarctic range in behaviour from total indifference to outright aggression.
Which further points out the oddity of all this. A bird with no survival instinct about avoiding predators?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 11, 2025, 02:29:13 AM
Have you taken note of every one of these penguin pictures?

Take a moment now and peruse the pictures. Nay, trust me not. Go to google, search penguin, click images. Take them all in.

The word penguin has an interesting etymology. Edward Fenton Supposedly during his voyages came across the curious creatures and dubbed them "pen gwyn". This is all well and good until you realize its translation from the welsh - literally "white head."

Now recall our little trip to the online zoo of penguins and every one of those pictures.

What colour was the penguins head?

That's right, it was black.


African penguins do have white heads.

(https://files.worldwildlife.org/wwfcmsprod/images/African_penguins_resting_WW187541_Martin_Harvey/story_full_width/3mcjzpy2bl_Medium_WW187541.jpg)

Which brings up a key point. All real penguins are here, not in "Antarctica."

(https://animalfactguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/worldmap_africanpenguin.png)
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: JackBlack on May 11, 2025, 04:14:57 AM
The word penguin has an interesting etymology.
Yes, first used to describe a different bird, the great auk.
Then later when Europeans came across what we now know of as penguins, they called them that due to their similarities.

Do they really take us for such fools as they think we wouldn't figure it out?
Well you fail to join the dots with the etymology, you seem to think all penguins are in Antarctica, and ignore a key part of evolution.
So if someone was making a conspiracy they likely would think you are such a fool you wouldn't figure it out.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on May 12, 2025, 02:04:29 PM
Never mind genetic engineered. We basically only ever see them in enclosures in zoos. How do we know that the land they supposedly exist in exists?
I took the pictures early in the thread and can confirm they exist in South America. I was denied access to the Antarctic so could not verify that.

Quote
For that matter, how do we know they can survive in such a place? I mean, fur seems like it would work better than feathers for staying warm, and as best as I know, moving a polar bear south would likely kill it. Someone mentioned moving them to the Antarctic as response to the melting ice pictures (which it turns out is a hoax)
https://newslog.cyberjournal.org/global-warming-fraud-iconic-polar-bear-on-melting-ice-cap-a-hoax/
and we got this article:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/articles/questions/would-polar-bears-thrive-antarctica
Quote
Ian - Polar bears would do very well if transplanted into the Antarctic - well at least for a few years. From a food point of view it would be polar bear heaven. In the Arctic the seals and other potential prey species have evolved lifestyles that minimises their risk of being eaten by polar bears but, in contrast, larger Antarctic animals such as seals and penguins have evolved without the risk of being eaten. Because of this the penguins are typically quite bold and inquisitive and will often approach you to have a look, and seals in the Antarctic range in behaviour from total indifference to outright aggression.
Which further points out the oddity of all this. A bird with no survival instinct about avoiding predators?
The thing about penguins is they seem like they are almost engineered to survive the climate as portable food sources. Heavy in fat and protein, they are both well insulated and a walking army ration. They are dull witted, with records of early discoverers noting how they would just horde onto the boat to be slaughtered for meal. They also serve to harvest the natural fish and transform that to transferable energy that would otherwise be very problematic to do so in the climate.

You are quite right they can be bold if you aren't careful. You watch out for them bobbing their head back and forth; this is them sizing you up.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: JackBlack on May 12, 2025, 02:30:47 PM
The thing about penguins is they seem like they are almost engineered to survive the climate as portable food sources. Heavy in fat and protein, they are both well insulated and a walking army ration. They are dull witted, with records of early discoverers noting how they would just horde onto the boat to be slaughtered for meal. They also serve to harvest the natural fish and transform that to transferable energy that would otherwise be very problematic to do so in the climate.
As if they evolved without having significant human predation.
Fat works quite well as both an insulator and an energy store.
"heavy in fat and protein" describes almost any animal.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 12, 2025, 04:05:59 PM
The Penguin Conspiracy

Penguins were engineered during the Cold War. The woefully inconsistent fossil record is a testament to this fact, coupled with the untenable body structure that could not possibly be the result of evolution. Designed as a "walking lunchbox" or "Khod'ba Zakuska", these critters were made to consume high protein fish diets and lumber around allowing for a complete lack of need for supply lines to distant conspiracy outposts like the Russian Base in the Antarctic. As the Antarctic circles the earth, and is wildly inhospitable, a solution to this problem had to be made. No wonder some feel that Penguins are so different from all other fowl that they should not even be classified as birds! Their elbows are completely fused?! Why would they need to evolve to survive if they have no land predators in the Antarctic? Why would they not die out with the Dinofauxs? These questions are never suitably answered.

Not only is their fossil record ridiculous and stitched together with what we've been calling Frankenstein Bones, but their history is equally suspect. Supposedly they were first identified in 1490 by Magellan during the wave of exploration in the early 1500s known as the Age of Discovery. However, Africa had been explored in Antiquity by Pharaoh Necho II in 600BC; no such mention of Penguins is present in the accounts of this provided by Herodotus. Herodotus was skeptical of this tale because he could not understand the flat earth physics that allow the sun in the account to appear to the North. In fact, Penguin does not even refer originally to the bird Penguin, but instead is a synonym for the bird the Great Auk. Nobody agrees where the word hails from...

The birds themselves are far too stupid to survive. Often they will even attempt to mate with seals.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/ioLWWF/imgres.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ioLWWF)
"Honestly I did not expect that follow up sightings of a similar nature to that 2006 one would ever be made again, and certainly not on multiple occasions," Nico de Bruyn, of the Mammal Research Institute at the University of Pretoria

Additionally they often choose to live in areas with climates not suited to their bodies, causing great distress.

Could it be that Penguins were Auk crossed by Seals? I'm not ruling it out at this point.

Their behavior is equally nonsensical, often going against what instinct should tell them to do and being  a myriad of different behaviors - such as living underground, swimming, migrating, child theft, homosexuality and more.

Just as a note, that doesn't look like sex initiated by the penguin at all.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: zono10 on May 15, 2025, 01:51:53 AM
Unfortunately, we don't have the technology to bioengineer animals. It would be fantastic, but we don't know enough about living things to do that. It would be completely unrealistic to think that humans have the technology to do this today. Realize that the ability to model living things like this would involve much more than just penguins.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 15, 2025, 05:12:24 AM
That you know of.

Older generations believed in wizards. And they had a conception of them going around casting fireballs and such.

Tell me. What would a small group of elite scientists look like using a double-barrel laser rifle to someone in medieval or ancient times? They'd depict someone who isn't a god, but has a magical staff.

In the same way, Hindu myths have a number of mythological weapons... that sound an awful lot like modern weapons.

https://vedicfeed.com/most-powerful-weapons-in-mahabharata

Narayanastra: Guided cluster missiles
Brahmastra: A nuke (complete with detailed mentions of fallout)
Pashupatastra: Something akin to an atom smasher (used to break things down completely and destroy them)

I have long wondered if there might not be lost civilizations that all but blew themselves up, and in which case reread the Flood story. We have a group of half-angels known as Nephilim, men who are clever and powerful in battle. We have a deluge that washed away historical record and probably quenched a nuclear event. We have certain areas on earth that are "cursed" like Rajasthan, where nobody have lived for centuries on a culture that literally believes in ancient nukes as part of their myths!

This is why I do not trust secret societies like the Freemasons. They are more than likely evil (or at least morally questionable) survivors of the Flood. Some of them might believe in protecting humanity from itself, some might want to control us, and some probably have fought big wars that risk destroying everything again.

https://www.ancient-code.com/ancient-nanotechnology-evidence-of-advanced-pre-flood-civilizations/

So yes, certain people probably do have technology to bioengineer animals. As for modern people, we can certainly make crossbreeds of the same species, though hybrids of different species are usually (but not always) sterile.  Mules were made as far back as 3500 BC. Further back toward Flood times, they might have been able to make fertile hybrids of different species.

Why breed a stupid derpy animal incapable of defending itself? Simple, we're not allowed to disturb penguin sanctuaries because they are endangered. And their nests are all over the coast to the point that most of Antarctica cannot be explored.
(https://www.sciencealert.com/images/2020-08/emperorpenguins.png)
 Why are they endangered? It's not like humans deliberately hunt them. It's because they are stupid animals, and they are designed this way so that they will always be endangered.

Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: JackBlack on May 15, 2025, 01:39:53 PM
that sound an awful lot like modern weapons.
You mean that can be twisted to pretend they are.
While there is no evidence or rational reason to think they are at all.

As for modern people, we can certainly make crossbreeds of the same species, though hybrids of different species are usually (but not always) sterile.  Mules were made as far back as 3500 BC. Further back toward Flood times, they might have been able to make fertile hybrids of different species.
Which is not bioengineering.
The best we have are crossbreeds and selective breeding.

Why breed a stupid derpy animal incapable of defending itself?
Except there is no reason to think anyone has.

Why are they endangered?
They aren't.
Emperor penguins are currently listed as "Near Threatened".
And the reason for that status is the declining food sources available to them.
And guess what caused that? People.

Some are listed as least concern.
Only some species are actually listed as endangered.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Username on May 15, 2025, 02:27:28 PM
Unfortunately, we don't have the technology to bioengineer animals. It would be fantastic, but we don't know enough about living things to do that. It would be completely unrealistic to think that humans have the technology to do this today. Realize that the ability to model living things like this would involve much more than just penguins.
We have been bio-engineering animals since the beginning of time. Ever enjoy a steak? Or perhaps you are sitting next to your man's best friend.

Ludicrous. Not only that, but we do have the technology to bioenginer animals.GloFish. AquaAdvantage Salmon. Enviropig. Polled Cattle.

NASA even does it with their mighty mice.

This is ignoring the plethora of examples of man-made chimea such as the spider goat that could make web milk, or the human-pig chimeras they use in research for transplants. Plenty of clone and gene editing work on monkeys going on in China as well.

I have to wonder if you bring such shoddy arguments to the table because you know they are weak and have nothing else to support your laughable take or if you are just truly this ignorant or what you wish to argue against.

The idea such a beast would evolve by God's will itself has me slapping my knee so hard its left welts.

Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: JackBlack on May 16, 2025, 02:25:44 AM
The idea such a beast would evolve by God's will itself has me slapping my knee so hard its left welts.
If you want to go based upon the idea of a god, then there are so many things in nature that are stupid it isn't funny.
e.g. a particular nerve in giraffes which go all the way down the neck and then back up.

It's as if there is no intelligent designer behind it all.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 16, 2025, 04:37:59 AM
that sound an awful lot like modern weapons.
You mean that can be twisted to pretend they are.
While there is no evidence or rational reason to think they are at all.

As for modern people, we can certainly make crossbreeds of the same species, though hybrids of different species are usually (but not always) sterile.  Mules were made as far back as 3500 BC. Further back toward Flood times, they might have been able to make fertile hybrids of different species.
Which is not bioengineering.
The best we have are crossbreeds and selective breeding.

Why breed a stupid derpy animal incapable of defending itself?
Except there is no reason to think anyone has.

Why are they endangered?
They aren't.
Emperor penguins are currently listed as "Near Threatened".
And the reason for that status is the declining food sources available to them.
And guess what caused that? People.

Some are listed as least concern.
Only some species are actually listed as endangered.

Kindly look at the map and how many orange and red dots their are. Then ask me how likely I think that an unguided exploration of Antarctica to check the work of the previous explorers is.

Alleged attempts to head to the South Pole are only of any import if they are repeatable. If the verdict is that you can't go here, here, or here because of nesting penguins and thus might have to take a much harder climb, sure that makes things a little difficult.

Also, can someone please tell me how a stupid flightless bird manages to get up high walls
(https://scitechdaily.com/images/Ice-Wall-Antarctica.jpg)
of Antarctica? Even  a five ft wall seems like it would be too much for them.

If you want to lay this guilt trip on people (yes I've seen Happy Feet) may I remind you that barely anyone ever visits these areas?  There are pretty much only cod icefish there which are described as
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Nototheniidae species are largely found in the Southern Ocean and are particularly abundant off the shores of Antarctica
"particularly abundant"
Oh here it mentions two species of cod get fished a fair amount. This doesn't account for other fish like the snailfish. And it takes a fair amount of time to go from Antarctica to whatever country and back. And there are islands outshore from here like the Falklands or Crozet Island that are far closer and easier fishing. I find the story that Antarctica is overfished implausible.

No, the reason penguins are threatened is because they need to lay eggs on dry land, and all around them are ice shelves that are as much as 30 m (100 ft high). Supposedly they can climb, but that's a feat even for Spider-Man nvm  birds with just claws on feet and no proper hands. Or they die off due to their own actions. And of course, they blame "climate change."
 https://www.nathab.com/blog/tourists-not-to-blame-for-penguin-declines
So basically, since climate change isn't a thing, penguins are a perpetually endangered species, and are used deliberately to create nesting barricades to visitors.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: markjo on May 16, 2025, 06:06:30 AM
Also, can someone please tell me how a stupid flightless bird manages to get up high walls
(https://scitechdaily.com/images/Ice-Wall-Antarctica.jpg)
of Antarctica? Even  a five ft wall seems like it would be too much for them.
(https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/landscape-coast-antarctica-mountains-covered-snow-ice-cold-ocean-landscape-coast-antarctica-135682799.jpg)
They’re smart enough to look for the shoreline.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: JackBlack on May 16, 2025, 02:38:54 PM
Kindly look at the map and how many orange and red dots their are.
Then understand how large it is, and recognise that is not likely going to be covering the entire coast.

Then ask me how likely I think that an unguided exploration of Antarctica to check the work of the previous explorers is.
Why does it have to be unguided?
If you are going to be checking the work of a previous explorer, you should be guided by what they have done.

Alleged attempts to head to the South Pole are only of any import if they are repeatable.
And they are.
With plenty of people having done it.

Also, can someone please tell me how a stupid flightless bird manages to get up high walls
Notice how you don't show any penguins in your image?
The entire coast of Antarctica is not a giant ice wall.
Showing a picture of a single ice cliff on Antarctica is useless to demonstrate any issues.
 
I find the story that Antarctica is overfished implausible.
You find lots of things you don't like to be implausible.
That doesn't make it so.
It usually just indicates you aren't thinking about it.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Phases of Venus on May 16, 2025, 10:26:46 PM
It maybe possible that all non flying so called birds including the giant ask which lives near the hub.

Now come on. It's done to death. The duck billed platypus is not a duck or bird.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: bulmabriefs144 on May 18, 2025, 11:00:52 AM
Kindly look at the map and how many orange and red dots their are.
Then understand how large it is, and recognise that is not likely going to be covering the entire coast.


That's true, I can just fly over that part...

Oh wait, no,it's a no fly zone. Because... reasons.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: JackBlack on May 18, 2025, 01:45:17 PM
That's true, I can just fly over that part...
Yes, you can.
If you want to claim otherwise, try something more substantial than a useless YouTube video.
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: Phases of Venus on May 27, 2025, 10:23:19 PM
Are auks fails penguin attempts. Or are they defending the northern hub?
Title: Re: Are Penguins Bio-Engineered?
Post by: markjo on May 28, 2025, 08:19:52 AM
That's true, I can just fly over that part...

Oh wait, no,it's a no fly zone. Because... reasons.
And if you had watched the whole video, you would have found out those reasons.  Or do you not mind crash landing in-100 degree weather?