The Flat Earth Society
Other Discussion Boards => Technology, Science & Alt Science => Topic started by: jeffreyw on April 03, 2016, 12:10:06 PM
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Here is a video showing the differentiation process in the formation of water worlds. Neptune/Uranus are really old stars in intermediate stages of evolution. After they become water worlds, the water will begin dissipating revealing the new Earth's in their interiors. They previously were much bigger gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn, which were also previous brown dwarfs, which were also previous red dwarfs, orange dwarfs, yellow stars... etc.
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Here is a video showing the differentiation process in the formation of water worlds. Neptune/Uranus are really old stars in intermediate stages of evolution. After they become water worlds, the water will begin dissipating revealing the new Earth's in their interiors. They previously were much bigger gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn, which were also previous brown dwarfs, which were also previous red dwarfs, orange dwarfs, yellow stars... etc.
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Those cannot even turn water into ice because it's really cold out there far away, there's not even water there, you nincompoot!
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Neptune is 17 Earth Masses or 17g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
Uranus is only 15g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
The atmospheretmosphere in Neptune is composed of 80% hydrogen and 19% helium with a small amount of methane. Notice there is no O2 which would be required for water. Water on this planet is impossible.
Uranus is comprised of the same gases in slightly higher proportions.
Water is impossible there too
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Here is a video showing the differentiation process in the formation of water worlds. Neptune/Uranus are really old stars in intermediate stages of evolution. After they become water worlds, the water will begin dissipating revealing the new Earth's in their interiors. They previously were much bigger gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn, which were also previous brown dwarfs, which were also previous red dwarfs, orange dwarfs, yellow stars... etc.
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Those cannot even turn water into ice because it's really cold out there far away, there's not even water there, you nincompoot!
The internal temperatures of Neptune and Uranus are over 5000 degrees C.
That is like saying, "the top of Mt. Everest is too cold for water ice to exist on the surface of the Earth."
As a matter of fact, the formation of water worlds is easy. Hydrogen combines with oxygen in large amounts in the interior of the star. This is only one type of chemical synthesis reaction (exothermic) which can release heat in vast amounts. The activation energy needed to combine hydrogen gas with oxygen gas internally is provided by gravitational collapse. It is a late stage result of the Kelvin-Helmholtz mechanism.
It is predicted via stellar metamorphosis that all late stage Neptune and Early stage super Earths will be water worlds.
As the water dissipates, it will begin exposing land, and eventually resemble Earth. Afterwards, it will resemble Mars/Venus which have had their water oceans evaporate completely and the dead star will wander the galaxy as a lifeless world.
I have already calculated the amount of energy released as a by-product of ocean formation as they currently stand on Earth... this is a low estimate as the amount of water on Earth would exceed greatly its currently volume.
I have posted the paper here:
http://vixra.org/pdf/1408.0199v1.pdf (http://vixra.org/pdf/1408.0199v1.pdf)
The fact stands. Establishment science has not provided a reasonable or up to date model for the evolution or formation of Neptune or Uranus. It is made clear that they simply can't because they do not understand basic star science. Therefore it is posted a challenge to the readers of this thread:
Show me the evolutionary timeline of Neptune/Uranus as independent structures as provided by establishment physics in which they cohesively and rationally explain all features of the off-set magnetic fields, their axis of orientation, their extreme distances from the Sun, a retrograde moon which orbits Neptune and the mysterious production of heat far in excess of what the Sun provides as is the case of Neptune of 2.71 times, Uranus, 1.01 times respectively.
As well, provide a reasonable case WHY any mention of chemical synthesis reactions is completely ignored in the interior of these objects, that when provided a superior theory, as is the case of stellar metamorphosis, that we can reverse engineer the internal composition (and surface) of the Earth to accurately describe the future composition and structure of the supposed "ice giants".
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Neptune is 17 Earth Masses or 17g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
Uranus is only 15g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
The atmospheretmosphere in Neptune is composed of 80% hydrogen and 19% helium with a small amount of methane. Notice there is no O2 which would be required for water. Water on this planet is impossible.
Uranus is comprised of the same gases in slightly higher proportions.
Water is impossible there too
Oxygen is in the interior according to stellar metamorphosis theory, it is predicted to be combining with hydrogen in vast amounts releasing heat, causing the atmosphere to be incredibly turbulent.
There is more water forming inside of Neptune/Uranus than exists on the surface of the Earth by a few magnitudes. Send a probe in there you'll see. Of course it would be quite expensive to send one there and time consuming, which is why it is helpful to develop theory to explain it that way we know what we're getting into.
Superheated water though, more along the lines of supercritical.
The amount of heat produced is along the lines of the RS-25 engines, which use the explosive reaction of oxygen and hydrogen to provide thrust.
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Providing a correct evolutionary timeline for these objects is paramount. Ignoring it will only lead to continued ignorance of the obvious issues, which include the fact that all the objects in our system are not related. They were all adopted by the Sun as the Sun moved about the galaxy. They are all stars in different stages to their evolution, ancient stars albeit which no longer shine in the visible spectrum, but are massively internally energetic as evidenced by their giant magnetic fields.
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Neptune is 17 Earth Masses or 17g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
Uranus is only 15g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
The atmospheretmosphere in Neptune is composed of 80% hydrogen and 19% helium with a small amount of methane. Notice there is no O2 which would be required for water. Water on this planet is impossible.
Uranus is comprised of the same gases in slightly higher proportions.
Water is impossible there too
Oxygen is in the interior according to stellar metamorphosis theory, it is predicted to be combining with hydrogen in vast amounts releasing heat, causing the atmosphere to be incredibly turbulent.
There is more water forming inside of Neptune/Uranus than exists on the surface of the Earth by a few magnitudes. Send a probe in there you'll see. Of course it would be quite expensive to send one there and time consuming, which is why it is helpful to develop theory to explain it that way we know what we're getting into.
Superheated water though, more along the lines of supercritical.
The amount of heat produced is along the lines of the RS-25 engines, which use the explosive reaction of oxygen and hydrogen to provide thrust.
There is no O2 on either planet. Google it
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Just because something is hot on the inside, does that mean it's a star? No! Stars do nuclear fusion. Do planets do nuclear fusion?
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Neptune is 17 Earth Masses or 17g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
Uranus is only 15g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
The atmospheretmosphere in Neptune is composed of 80% hydrogen and 19% helium with a small amount of methane. Notice there is no O2 which would be required for water. Water on this planet is impossible.
Uranus is comprised of the same gases in slightly higher proportions.
Water is impossible there too
Oxygen is in the interior according to stellar metamorphosis theory, it is predicted to be combining with hydrogen in vast amounts releasing heat, causing the atmosphere to be incredibly turbulent.
There is more water forming inside of Neptune/Uranus than exists on the surface of the Earth by a few magnitudes. Send a probe in there you'll see. Of course it would be quite expensive to send one there and time consuming, which is why it is helpful to develop theory to explain it that way we know what we're getting into.
Superheated water though, more along the lines of supercritical.
The amount of heat produced is along the lines of the RS-25 engines, which use the explosive reaction of oxygen and hydrogen to provide thrust.
There is no O2 on either planet. Google it
You mean, not in gaseous form, right?
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Maybe this will help you understand how stars die and prove to you that Uranus and Neptune are not dead stars, nor does either planet contain O2.
http://www.esa.int/esaKIDSen/SEM976WJD1E_OurUniverse_0.html (http://www.esa.int/esaKIDSen/SEM976WJD1E_OurUniverse_0.html)
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Neptune is 17 Earth Masses or 17g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
Uranus is only 15g at the surface. It was NEVER a star.
The atmospheretmosphere in Neptune is composed of 80% hydrogen and 19% helium with a small amount of methane. Notice there is no O2 which would be required for water. Water on this planet is impossible.
Uranus is comprised of the same gases in slightly higher proportions.
Water is impossible there too
Oxygen is in the interior according to stellar metamorphosis theory, it is predicted to be combining with hydrogen in vast amounts releasing heat, causing the atmosphere to be incredibly turbulent.
There is more water forming inside of Neptune/Uranus than exists on the surface of the Earth by a few magnitudes. Send a probe in there you'll see. Of course it would be quite expensive to send one there and time consuming, which is why it is helpful to develop theory to explain it that way we know what we're getting into.
Superheated water though, more along the lines of supercritical.
The amount of heat produced is along the lines of the RS-25 engines, which use the explosive reaction of oxygen and hydrogen to provide thrust.
There is no O2 on either planet. Google it
You mean, not in gaseous form, right?
Not as gas or water. The hydrogen is gas and needs to combine with O2 as a gas to form water in any form.
The Gas Giants could all be failed stars in that they all lack the mass needed to heat up the Hydrogen and Helium to start the Fusion reaction need to become a star.
And I just realized where Asimov got the idea for his short story Night Fall.
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So, you admit that they do contain O2 then?
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So, you admit that they do contain O2 then?
He is correct. They do not contain O2.
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*cough* O2 *cough*
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*cough* O2 *cough*
Don't ruin my fun. Jroa is about to come claim there is water on Neptune and I'm going to ask what that has to do with O2.
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*cough* O2 *cough*
Don't ruin my fun. Jroa is about to come claim there is water on Neptune and I'm going to ask what that has to do with O2.
Much as it pains me to agree with Jora, but there is water on Neptune. This from Wikipedia:
Neptune is similar in composition to Uranus, and both have compositions that differ from those of the larger gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn. Like Jupiter and Saturn, Neptune's atmosphere is composed primarily of hydrogen and helium, along with traces of hydrocarbons and possibly nitrogen, but contains a higher proportion of "ices" such as water, ammonia, and methane.
Try Googling "water on Neptune", there are plenty of other sources saying it's there.
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*cough* O2 *cough*
Don't ruin my fun. Jroa is about to come claim there is water on Neptune and I'm going to ask what that has to do with O2.
Much as it pains me to agree with Jora, but there is water on Neptune. This from Wikipedia:
Neptune is similar in composition to Uranus, and both have compositions that differ from those of the larger gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn. Like Jupiter and Saturn, Neptune's atmosphere is composed primarily of hydrogen and helium, along with traces of hydrocarbons and possibly nitrogen, but contains a higher proportion of "ices" such as water, ammonia, and methane.
Try Googling "water on Neptune", there are plenty of other sources saying it's there.
Yes. But nowhere the amount the OP claims. Furthermore it doesn't seem to have gaseous oxygen like the OP says.
Also Jroa should have noticed that O2 was wrong.
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Also Jroa should have noticed that O2 was wrong[citation needed].
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*cough* O2 *cough*
Don't ruin my fun. Jroa is about to come claim there is water on Neptune and I'm going to ask what that has to do with O2.
Much as it pains me to agree with Jora, but there is water on Neptune. This from Wikipedia:
Neptune is similar in composition to Uranus, and both have compositions that differ from those of the larger gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn. Like Jupiter and Saturn, Neptune's atmosphere is composed primarily of hydrogen and helium, along with traces of hydrocarbons and possibly nitrogen, but contains a higher proportion of "ices" such as water, ammonia, and methane.
Try Googling "water on Neptune", there are plenty of other sources saying it's there.
I find this hard to believe. NASA has to make a big announcement revealing it first. Oh wait, they can still do that and probably will.
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Also Jroa should have noticed that O[sup]2[/sup] was wrong[citation needed].
You don't think O2 is wrong? Superscript is for charges and isotopes. O2 is neither.
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Thank you everybody for commenting. I hope you can understand the theory, I've been at it for almost 5 years now and it has been one hell of a journey. Here is a new video Baz has made for me overviewing thermodynamic contraction/expansion in reference to the general theory of stellar metamorphosis. I hope you like it.
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I've been ridiculed for many years by "experts" for showing this discovery to them. Unfortunately the experts are incorrect. A star is a young planet, and planet is an ancient highly evolved star. They were never mutually exclusive. It is one of the greatest mistakes ever in the history of science.
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That video is a disgrace to science.