The Flat Earth Society
The Flat Earth Society => Suggestions & Concerns => Topic started by: Thork on May 24, 2013, 06:43:33 AM
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It should be apparent to all who are familiar with my profile, that something is missing.
John Davis has removed my curator status for having the audacity to move his wretched lizardman thread from the upper forums to 'science and alternative science'.
So now we have a system where administrators who visit the site on a bi-monthly basis are removing the ability of those who frequent the site often, to manage and maintain said site. Davis is able to shit up the upper forums with anything his whiskey soaked mind happens to be excreting and the rest of us must endure the double standards of trying to maintain a forum structure against this tide of dumbfuckery.
I ask that Mr Davis steps down to concentrate on his personal problems or that Wilmore steps in to ensure Davis gets the rest he so sorely requires.
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John Davis is abusing his powers
Oh the irony.
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For the discussion of any FE topics unrelated to Flat Earth Theory. Conspiracy topics belong here.
If he believes that the Lizard people are responsible for the "RE conspiracy", doesn't it fit the bill?
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For the discussion of any FE topics unrelated to Flat Earth Theory. Conspiracy topics belong here.
If he believes that the Lizard people are responsible for the "RE conspiracy", doesn't it fit the bill?
Not any old conspiracy topics. Not yetis and aliens and the easter bunny. FLAT EARTH conspiracies such as moon hoaxes and airline cover ups.
They are the FLAT EARTH FORUMS. This is a flat earth site. Not a conspiracy site. We can't have people making threads saying "Leprechorns are responsible for RE propaganda" or "Area 51 is a hole through which morlocks crawl from the underside of the earth". Topics like that and lizard men are complete nonsense and we have a subsection for that.
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Are you familiar with a man named You? I think you are about to walk his path.
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[...]administrators [...] are removing the ability of [others] to [do stuff]
Yes, that's part of their privileges.
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[...]administrators [...] are removing the ability of [others] to [do stuff]
Yes, that's part of their privileges.
This isn't as helpful as you may have intended it to be. I'll put it down to English being your second language.
Are you familiar with a man named You? I think you are about to walk his path.
Are you now threatening me?
Incidently this (http://theflatearthsociety.net/) has been flagged to these people (http://www.fbi.gov/knoxville/).
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[...]administrators [...] are removing the ability of [others] to [do stuff]
Yes, that's part of their privileges.
This isn't as helpful as you may have intended it to be. I'll put it down to English being your second language.
Are you familiar with a man named You? I think you are about to walk his path.
Are you now threatening me?
Incidently this (http://theflatearthsociety.net/) has been flagged to these people (http://www.fbi.gov/knoxville/).
Of course I am not. You was a Chinese emperor who is the foundation of the story "The Boy Who Cried Wolf." I was simply warning you to not call everyone to arms over nothing, or when a real issue arises you may find yourself standing alone.
I hope they don't waste much time on me, I'm sure they are here to do what many would call God's work in one of the most Bible literate cities in the world. From what I understand the FBI are likely here investigating corporate unlawfulness. I'm a law abiding citizen and have no need to be afraid of the government. I love this country. They have more to worry from the flying spagetti monster than they do me.
I have a right to believe in my religion and its teachings and your petty tactics only serve to lift me higher. Its not like it was unexpected that some would refuse me. Thats the point. I'm no God, no Savior, no other grand person. I am simply me, and honestly I could judge myself poorly or well depending on my point of view. What I do believe, is I have what I feel is a unique view on faith and religion that is non-violent and non-evasive. I want to find others of similar belief. I have a right to pursue that. Simply live and let live. I don't know how much clearer it could be made. I don't want to convert you, I don't want to shove my views in your face. Thats against the core of what I believe.
That view? Don't be a fucking dick. I know it seems like it works to be a dick, but it really really doesn't. You've seen me there, and it wasn't pleasant to bear for any of you. Theres a better path.
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JD has lost his marbles.
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In a manner of speaking, I found them.
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No, you just found a different bag to hold them in.
Insightful
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Eh, don't believe everything you hear, unless you want to. Marbles are a thing. It was fun to use it as more for a second, but they are a thing. Things are unnecessary in matters of belief.
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No, you just found a different bag to hold them in. Where are the marbles? That's still to be seen. I last heard they were in Russia at the head of a large crime family.
Perhaps you would like to get out of my thread? I have been electronically assaulted by John Davis and this thread is about redressing that balance and ensuring that Davis is no longer capable of coming on here high and shitting things up.
JD has lost his marbles.
I know. My powers were the only thing that made people behave. Now the evil will start bubbling to the surface everywhere. Where is PizzaPlanet? Go my creature, you are free to wreak havoc on the forum. Gather your minions and destroy it all! >o<
Eh, don't believe everything you hear, unless you want to. Marbles are a thing. It was fun to use it as more for a second, but they are a thing. Things are unnecessary in matters of belief.
And you have made a very powerful enemy, my little deranged friend. >:(
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No, you just found a different bag to hold them in. Where are the marbles? That's still to be seen. I last heard they were in Russia at the head of a large crime family.
Perhaps you would like to get out of my thread? I have been electronically assaulted by John Davis and this thread is about redressing that balance and ensuring that Davis is no longer capable of coming on here high and shitting things up.
Yeah, you're right, sorry about that. I'll go.
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You're no longer a slave to the system!!
You should be thanking not cursing.
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You're no longer a slave to the system!!
You should be thanking not cursing.
I am the system! >o<
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I agree with Thork's judgement call in this case.
Its unfortunate that he was punished for doing his job, I support any efforts that make the forums less chaotic.
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I would agree with Thork, but I'm afraid that doing so might lead to John demodding me.
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as much as I respect Davis's believes, Th*rk is right in this case, please restore his mod status.
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as much as I respect Davis's believes, Th*rk is right in this case, please restore his mod status.
Thork is not a mod.
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as much as I respect Davis's believes, Th*rk is right in this case, please restore his mod status.
Thork is not a mod.
His wily plan might have worked if you hadn't caught him. That's a keen eye, Rama. Good job.
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I implore you great Grand Master Willmore, restore Th*rks powers.
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Sorry, thats not how it works. If he cannot handle his powers, they are removed. In addition he has no wish for their return. Stop going crying to mommy when daddy grounds you.
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I implore you great Grand Master Willmore, restore Th*rks powers.
Willmore has not been active since May ninth.
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So Davis who wanted to resign, can now override Th*rks power?
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Sorry, thats not how it works. If he cannot handle his powers, they are removed. In addition he has no wish for their return. Stop going crying to mommy when daddy grounds you.
You are not the Daddy.
I should add it is you that cannot handle your powers. You have breached forum rules and then eliminated all opposition to those trying to clean up after you. You are going to feel dreadful about this when you sober up.
So Davis who wanted to resign, can now override Th*rks power?
Davis has been losing the plot for several months now. These are the death throws as an important transition of power occurs. Its not pleasant for everyone else to watch, but substance abuse has addled his mind. He's not the man we used to know. Show no pity. He did this to himself.
Also Wilmore is going to blow his stack when he finds out what has happened to me.
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I have messaged Willmore, and justice will be served.
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It should be apparent to all who are familiar with my profile, that something is missing.
John Davis has removed my curator status for having the audacity to move his wretched lizardman thread from the upper forums to 'science and alternative science'.
So now we have a system where administrators who visit the site on a bi-monthly basis are removing the ability of those who frequent the site often, to manage and maintain said site. Davis is able to shit up the upper forums with anything his whiskey soaked mind happens to be excreting and the rest of us must endure the double standards of trying to maintain a forum structure against this tide of dumbfuckery.
I ask that Mr Davis steps down to concentrate on his personal problems or that Wilmore steps in to ensure Davis gets the rest he so sorely requires.
You will keep a civil tongue on this forum.
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And you will pay for this! >o<
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Is it possible that Davis is Wilmore? Wilmore being the reasonable, sober form of Davis. Since Davis has been drunk for weeks (source:Thork), it makes sense that Wilmore would not be on for weeks.
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Is it possible that Davis is Wilmore?
No.
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We all everybody!
That said, I'm removing the short ban I gave thork concerning his language and poor behavior. He still will not have his curator powers for at least the time being. I'm sure Wilmore will be here tonight or soon to help, though I understand he has been very busy. I appreciate his time in this matter, if he has it.
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We all everybody!
Em... what? We are not all everybody. I am not Thork, you're not me, etc. etc. Although hoppy is iwanttobelieve, sometimes.
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Is it possible that Davis is Wilmore?
No.
I didn't ask you, Thork.
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We all everybody!
Is it bad that I can't tell if you're joking?
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We all everybody!
That said, I'm removing the short ban I gave thork concerning his language and poor behavior. He still will not have his curator powers for at least the time being. I'm sure Wilmore will be here tonight or soon to help, though I understand he has been very busy. I appreciate his time in this matter, if he has it.
Yes, you are in over your head now. My 10 minute ban forced me to make a cup of tea and eat a biscuit whilst I pondered my next move. You are out of control Davis. Retribution will be swift. >:(
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Davis is Willmore??? ???
Nevertheless, why was Th*rk demodded for moving threads?
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We all everybody!
Is it bad that I can't tell if you're joking?
It's a Lost reference.
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We all everybody!
Is it bad that I can't tell if you're joking?
Lost
Sounds about right.
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We all everybody!
Is it bad that I can't tell if you're joking?
Lost
Sounds about right.
SRS BSNS!
I hope Wilmore backs John Davis up.
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Is it possible that Davis is Wilmore?
No.
maybe.
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We all everybody!
Is it bad that I can't tell if you're joking?
Lost
Sounds about right.
SRS BSNS!
I hope Wilmore backs John Davis up.
Why?
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I moved it back and explained to Thork that Lizard People as a part of the conspiracy has long been part of the flat earth theory in some circles. He got mad and tried to move it back. I put it back one last time, and he started crying about it and derailing a thread or some such. Thus, I removed his powers for a week.
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We all everybody!
Is it bad that I can't tell if you're joking?
Lost
Sounds about right.
SRS BSNS!
I hope Wilmore backs John Davis up.
Why?
Because Thork was only having a dick waving contest and he lost.
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I think we need a poll.
Was Thorks ban justified?
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you can't really call it a ban.
However, he did lose power. But I don't think users have a say on JD's decisions.
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you can't really call it a ban.
However, he did lose power. But I don't think users have a say on JD's decisions.
I just want to know what the general consensus is, not whether anything is done about it.
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I believe Th*rk's powers should be reinstated.
We have Willmore to ask this. He is our only hope.
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I moved it back and explained to Thork that Lizard People as a part of the conspiracy has long been part of the flat earth theory in some circles. He got mad and tried to move it back. I put it back one last time, and he started crying about it and derailing a thread or some such. Thus, I removed his powers for a week.
This is not what happened at all. Lizardmen occurred once before when I made a thread that got binned within about 2 mins of me posting it. That's the precedent for lizardmen threads. Nowhere does Rowbotham or Voliva refer to lizardmen. They are David Icke's creation.
I moved it.
You moved it back.
I moved it again thinking you'd realise you were being silly.
You removed my mod powers and moved it back.
So now we have one less person looking after the forums, cleaning spam, addressing mod reports and keeping order, and one more thread about lizardmen in the upper forums. Today common sense took a beating. :(
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This probably should have been handled privately, and not made a public spectacle. Nothing good can come of this.
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After reading the arguments, I must side with Thork. The thread does not belong in flat earth general. If anything, it belongs in the believers only section or the repository.
One can't really discuss a post when the post is written to dismiss an argument without discussion. An argument, I might add, that is very rarely brought up.
Thork was doing his job. He plays no favorites and treats all equally. He may be over the top on occasion, but ultimately, he does more good than not.
May not always agree with him but I do know this: Thok'salways tries to act in the best interest of this forum. Search your feelings John, you know that thread was pointless.
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Is the idea that an admin outranks a curator really so controversial? Whether or not the thread belongs in the FE forums isn't the issue. There is a process to dispute these decisions.
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The problem is Thork not listening to the powers over him. Maybe he thought moving lizard man was the right move. When John moved it back, that should be the end of it. You will not get anywhere in an organization bucking the powers over you.
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The problem is Thork not listening to the powers over him. Maybe he thought moving lizard man was the right move. When John moved it back, that should be the end of it. You will not get anywhere in an organization bucking the powers over you.
There is not one rule for John Davis and one for the rest of you. I'd have moved your thread about lizardmen and he would have done nothing to stop me. In a community you need to apply rules across the board. When the rich and powerful flaunt rules, its usually called corruption. Davis is corrupt.
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The problem is Thork not listening to the powers over him. Maybe he thought moving lizard man was the right move. When John moved it back, that should be the end of it. You will not get anywhere in an organization bucking the powers over you.
There is not one rule for John Davis and one for the rest of you. I'd have moved your thread about lizardmen and he would have done nothing to stop me. In a community you need to apply rules across the board. When the rich and powerful flaunt rules, its usually called corruption. Davis is corrupt.
I'm glad you are standing your ground. However I do believe you are wrong.
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Is the idea that an admin outranks a curator really so controversial? Whether or not the thread belongs in the FE forums isn't the issue. There is a process to dispute these decisions.
I don't like the idea of rank when it comes to what threads are or aren't allowed in the various forums. Even a king must obey the laws.
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The thread was fine in FEG as far as I'm concerned. It was sufficiently linked to (or discussed in the light of) the Round Earth Conspiracy to be posted in FEG.
As for Thork, he resigned some time ago, and it had already been agreed in the mod board that he would no longer be a curator, especially with all the drama originating thence. Case in point.
I guess that's everything?
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The thread was fine in FEG as far as I'm concerned. It was sufficiently linked to (or discussed in the light of) the Round Earth Conspiracy to be posted in FEG.
As for Thork, he resigned some time ago, and it had already been agreed in the mod board that he would no longer be a curator, especially with all the drama originating thence. Case in point.
I guess that's everything?
I guess the experiment didn't work out huh?
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Lord Wilmore has backed the wrong horse. You will rue the day you sided with the drunkard over me.
And I'm not an official member.
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As for Thork, he resigned some time ago, and it had already been agreed in the mod board that he would no longer be a curator, especially with all the drama originating thence. Case in point.
So you're pretty much saying that Thork was fired from a job that he already quit? ???
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There's not enough rejoicing in this thread.
Also, am I understanding this correctly? Thork is crying about losing power that he willingly wanted to give up in form of resignation?
I guess Thork is just a dramawhore. There's no reason he would have come to S&C with this if he was actually concerned about his powers. All the more reason to never trust him with anything.
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I don't think Thork ever really wanted to stop being a curator. From the contexts of the few moments in the past when he's asked to have his powers removed, it seems more like he was just trying to make a point in a melodramatic way.
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Th*rk, you did a fine job as curator, but got no respect from the FES higher ups.
All it took is one thread move from an admin.
Willmore has lost credibility for backing Davis on this one.
New leadership is needed in the FES.
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Willmore has lost credibility
I don't believe my eyes.
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Willmore has lost credibility
I don't believe my eyes.
I wanted to believe.
:'(
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Seeing how we only have one curator left (and more importantly, it isn't Thork), this might be a good time to revisit an earlier suggestion of mine to abolish the position. It really seems pointless and just confusing at this stage. If you need more help, then get new mods.
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we need less moderators, just more competent ones.
Roundy and Ski need to go.
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Th*rk is right in this case, please restore his mod status.
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This does sound like power abuse.
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Seeing how we only have one curator left (and more importantly, it isn't Thork), this might be a good time to revisit an earlier suggestion of mine to abolish the position. It really seems pointless and just confusing at this stage. If you need more help, then get new mods.
I have never understood exactly: what does a curator do?
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Honestly? It stops Thork from annoying the mods in S&C. Or at least it was meant to.
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Seeing how we only have one curator left (and more importantly, it isn't Thork), this might be a good time to revisit an earlier suggestion of mine to abolish the position. It really seems pointless and just confusing at this stage. If you need more help, then get new mods.
I have never understood exactly: what does a curator do?
The job was to keep the upper forums clean of junk posts, off topic posts, and move threads that shouldn't be there (either misplaced or trolling).
Basically: Keep the upper forums clean.
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John is drunk with power, and also drunk. He should have resigned when he made a big show of it then changed his mind or whatever. John is never here and when he is he spews nonsense all over the place.
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Please reinstate Th*rk as a full moderator.
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Thork for president.
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I call a full investigation by the High Zetetic Council.
Justice will be served!
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Psst, this would be a good time to lock the thread.
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Psst, this would be a good time to lock the thread.
Why, so the FES admin conspiracy can prosper?
We need new leadership.